Aug. 3, 2023 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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| David Shone, former Trump impeachment lawyer. | |
| The more I thought of it, when I really played it out in my mind, you know, 10, 15 years from now, this puts us on a collision course with the real rule of law and the equal application of justice, the principles that really are the bedrock of our country. | |
| You know, Laura, I hope that people will play your monologue today over and over and over again, because you hit on the key points. | |
| For me, as a criminal and civil rights lawyer for a long time—criminal defense lawyer and a civil rights lawyer for a long time—and I also do a lot of election—voting rights act and ballot access work. | |
| ACLU hired me to represent the Alabama citizen, Shelby County v. Holder, and so on. | |
| I take these things very seriously. | |
| This indictment is written for public consumption and to try to get before a D.C. | |
| jury and for political reasons and no other reason. | |
| How dare they criminalize, as you say, disagreements over election practices. | |
| The election laws in this country are in array for a number of reasons. | |
| One of the leading and most respected election law experts in the country has said, and certainly not a Trump supporter, over and over again, the Electoral Count Act is impossible to understand, and that anyone who believes they really understand what the vice president's role was with respect to the Electoral Count Act, doesn't know what they're and that anyone who believes they really understand what the vice president's | |
| You can be sure—and a defense to this case will be—President Trump believed and believes, in his heart and soul, that the election was stolen from him and from the 75 million people or more who voted for him, and that he had an obligation to stand up for it. | |
| But you could also believe, for sure, That he was advised every step of the way by people he understood to be experts. | |
| And that's at the heart of trying to criminalize something like this. | |
| That's all I have to say about that. | |
| I can't assess whether or not the government has the evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt what they assert in the indictment. | |
| I want people to know. | |
| That I had no right to overturn the election. | |
| Sadly, the president was surrounded by a group of crackpot lawyers that kept telling him what his itching ears wanted to hear. | |
| Look, our country is more important than any one man. | |
| Your reaction to that? | |
| Well, Mike Pence has made clear that he doesn't believe that there was a criminal act committed, either. | |
| And that's the fundamental heart of this. | |
| We've charged here a criminal—criminal offenses. | |
| That's an abuse of the system. | |
| That's not how we operate. | |
| Again, when laws are in disarray like these are, One can't have notice of what would be criminal conduct in this case. | |
| Again, people may disagree with his methodology, but he tried to go through—what's clear is he tried to go through the legal mechanism he understood applied. | |
| You can be sure Donald Trump didn't come up with the idea about the obligations of electors and whether there could be alternative electors and so on. | |
| Do you think Donald Trump was fundamentally aware of the idea, 29 states, plus the District of Columbia, bind their electors to the popular vote? | |
| Yeah. |
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