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May 24, 2023 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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Kash Patel & Roger Stone Discuss The Durham Report, Government Gangsters & MORE
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And now, Lindell TV brings you The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times bestselling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are about to enter the Stone Zone.
Today, we are honored to have a special guest.
Cash Patel is a former Chief of Staff to Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller.
He previously served as Deputy Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Counterterrorism at the National Security Council.
He also served as a Principal Deputy to the Acting Director of National Intelligence Before joining the National Security Staff, he served as National Security Advisor and Senior Counsel to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Indeed, he was counsel to the committee at the time that I voluntarily testified before that committee.
Mr. Patel joined the Intelligence Committee staff following his tenure as a terrorism prosecutor at the Department of Justice, where he led investigations spanning multiple theaters of conflict and oversaw the successful prosecution of criminals aligned with al-Qaeda, ISIS, and other dangerous terrorist groups.
Cash Patel also served as the Department of Justice liaison officer to the Joint Special Operations Command, working with our nation's most prestigious counterterrorism units to conduct collaborative and complicated global targeting operations against high-value terrorism targets.
He began his career as a public defender, trying scores of complex cases ranging from murder, narco-trafficking, complex financial crimes, and jury trials in both the state and federal courts.
A native of New York, Kash Patel completed his undergraduate studies at the University of Richmond before returning to New York To get his law degree along with the certificate of international law from University College London's Faculty of Laws in the UK.
I went through his extended biography for a reason that will become clear momentarily, but I am extraordinarily honored to have Kash Patel join us here in the Stone Zone.
Roger, thanks so much for having me.
I appreciate it.
Very nice of you to go through that bio.
Well, I went through it for a reason.
We'll come back to that in a moment.
Folks, if you don't follow Kash Patel's lively feed at Truth Social, I strongly recommend that you do so.
Confession of full disclosure, I have such admiration for Kash Patel that I have named one of my dogs after him.
No, that is a homage.
That is a privilege.
It's not to make fun of him.
It's because I admire and respect him so much.
Kash, you were obviously counsel of the House Intelligence Committee in the past.
It did its own investigation when Republicans were in the majority into the Russian collusion delusion.
And by now, of course, you've had an opportunity to digest the report by Special Counsel John Durham.
What did you think of his report?
Yeah, I think I have two different takeaways, Roger.
As the former chief investigator that put out the Nunes memo in our report and dealt with so many witnesses back in the day, and you had to go through that process as well, I would say the findings aren't new, but from a political vantage point, it's a complete and total exoneration of President Trump.
And a complete and total destruction of the FBI and DOJ for unlawfully launching an investigation into then candidate Trump and his campaign and continuing it unlawfully for a year.
Now, while you and I and many in the audience know that, the reason I say it's a political victory is because there were so many people watching Schiff and CNN and MSNBC that even those shows have now have to say after the Durham report, wait a second, it was unlawful.
And it was made up, and Donald Trump should never have been investigated by the FBI, DOJ, and the election was rigged.
So that's a political victory, but as big of a fan of John Durham's as I was legally as a former federal prosecutor, I'm probably going to become his harshest critic, because he all but put together a prosecution memorandum of about 307 pages, he just forgot or neglected to attach the charging document.
And he went through a myriad of excuses about DOJ policy and this and that and reasons for not doing so.
But after providing such damning evidence and outlining the conspiracy in the cast of criminal characters Comey, Strzok, McCabe, Page, Brennan, Clapper, Simpson, Clinesmith, Sussman, etc., Rodney Jaffe, He just said, heck with it, I guess I'm not going to do it.
I find that wholly insufficient, especially this one part of the report concerns me the most.
The list of characters I just labeled out of the Durham report, John Durham himself failed to use subpoena power.
To compel their service and submission at the committees of jurisdiction and before him, which is shocking to me as a former federal prosecutor, that you would lay out a monumental conspiracy, the likes of which the United States has never seen, and then forget or neglect to use service of process.
And I think that was his biggest failure, but I think Congress needs to demand each of those witnesses come in, including John Durham, and ask him, why didn't you just do the basic job that you were asked to do?
Do you have a theory as to why Mr. Durham took five plus long years to compile his final report?
I mean, what investigation takes five years?
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Honestly, I don't know.
That's a great question, Roger.
I don't know.
He said he was not obstructed by Merrick Garland, so I'll take him at his word.
And if that's the case, then the only person to get in his way is himself.
And I just didn't think that was the John Durham that I knew.
I sat down with him at the request of then Attorney General Bill Barr when he was first appointed because I was the chief investigator of Russiagate to give him the download to specifically tell him the prosecution referrals we made as a result of our investigation about individuals in cabinet secretary positions lying under oath to Congress.
That's just a start.
Then there was the fraudulent FISA court lies and conspiracy to trick the FISA court to unlawfully surveillance Donald Trump.
Now, That took the work of the FBI and DOJ leadership combined, including a lawyer who admitted to pleading guilty and lied about the documentation he presented to that court.
So this is not a one-off instance or crime.
And so I'm not sure why he took five years.
Well, I have had work cases that take two and three years long.
I really don't know why he took five years and why he came up short.
Well, of course it could be to make sure that the statute of limitations had run on the egregious crimes that he documented on behalf of some major players, including Hillary Clinton, CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey, Deputy Director Strzok, and others.
I'm really scratching my head about the prosecution's That he did bring because he seems to have gone for the people at the very lowest level of the ladder in essence Indicting the guy who drove the getaway car for the bank robbery for double parking while he let those who robbed the bank not only testify against the driver but
thus incriminating themselves in many occasions, but then let them keep the loot anyway.
I don't understand the prosecutions of Sussman, Klein-Smith, and the other fellow.
This seems to me to be a time buyer or a time waster when he let the real culprits of the largest single abuse of power in the history of the United States...
A scandal in which this abuse of power used the full authority of the United States government and the extraordinary capability of our intelligence agencies to open an investigation with no probable cause, with no evidence of Russian collusion.
The other thing that I want to ask you about here is why Mr. Durham did not even delve into the question of the alleged hack of the Democratic National Committee by Russian intelligence.
During my trial, full disclosure, I was charged with lying to Congress in my voluntary testimony before the committee.
When in fact no misstatement I made covered any underlying crime, no misstatement I made was material, most certainly not the crime of either Russian collusion or WikiLeaks collaboration, but it was in the pretrial maneuvering in my case that the FBI admitted
That they had never inspected the computer servers of the Democratic National Committee and that they relied on the representations of CrowdStrike.
My lawyers sought the CrowdStrike memo to be used in my defense.
They were denied access to it.
The judge also ruled on a motion from the government That they didn't even have to prove Russian collusion in order to prove that I was obstructing their investigation into Russian collusion.
What would be my motive to lie when there was no Russian collusion to hide, nor was there any WikiLeaks collaboration?
The most galling thing for me is that on November 3rd, 2020, after I had already received an unconditional presidential pardon by order of a federal judge,
The Department of Justice was forced to disgorge the last remaining long redacted and hidden sections of Mr. Mueller's final report in which even he could not sugarcoat the fact that he had found, quote, no factual evidence, close quote, tying me to Russian collusion, WikiLeaks collaboration, or for that matter, any other crime.
Mr. Mueller insisted, with the indictment of 17 alleged Russian intelligence agents, that the DNC had been the target of an online hack by Russian actors.
That case never even got to discovery.
He was never put under the gun to produce any evidence to prove that.
I don't believe it happened.
We were denied the opportunity to bring both Bill Binney and James McGovern as witnesses because they believe they possessed forensic evidence that showed that while there was data stolen from the DNC, it was not stolen, an online hack.
So here's my question.
At your time at the committee, did you ever see actual evidence or proof that the DNC was subjected to an online hack?
Did we?
No, we tried, as you pointed out, CrowdStrike.
And this is, let me break this down for everybody, because at the time, you know this well, but a lot of people glossed over it because the fake news tried to bury it.
The guy that ran CrowdStrike, Sean Henry, used to be James Comey's right-hand man at the FBI, when Comey was the director of the FBI.
Then he goes out and creates this company who gets paid millions of dollars, if not tens of millions of dollars, by Democratic operatives and others, Like Fusion GPS.
And for the first time that I can recall in American law enforcement history, the FBI abdicates its legal responsibility to conduct a full-scale investigation of what has been alleged to have been one of the biggest intrusions, if true, by a foreign adversary into the server of one of the biggest political parties in the world.
And the FBI goes to that server, the DNC party, and says what they should have done was, we need access.
This is a lawful inquiry.
We are the FBI.
Please give us all of your servers and we will, as we say, exploit them or take the data from them and run an investigation.
Instead of doing that, instead of using subpoenas, instead of conducting a full field investigation, they allow CrowdStrike to be the referee, the investigatory referee, and they, CrowdStrike, are paid an umpteenth amount of money.
They, CrowdStrike alone, possesses the entirety of the DNC server, and the FBI, under James Comey, Knowing his buddy Sean Henry was running CrowdStrike, says, okay, you CrowdStrike, tell us what the FBI, we should look at.
That is absurd.
It is done intentionally to politicize law enforcement.
Never in the history of the FBI have they said, or should they ever say, oh, we will allow this private entity to conduct our job for them.
And they'll be honest and forthright with us.
So we don't have to do the work ourselves.
That was the crux of the failure of James Comey and Andy McCabe and Peter Strzok and company, and they didn't do it by mistake.
They did it intentionally because they didn't want the answers to the questions that they knew would nuke the false narrative of Russian collusion that you have just outlined, and they allowed the judicial system.
To be bought and sold by political operatives at the very DNC that they were supposed to be investigating.
All of them were in on it, just like back in Hillary Clinton's email investigative days.
They were all in on it.
The same FBI agents, Strzok and Page and all these people, McCabe, were the same ones running the DNC server leak and the Russiagate investigation.
And the reason we don't have the answers is because the FBI never got the data.
And there is nothing for them to exploit, so James Comey can go around running around cheekily saying, oh, we didn't find any evidence of this intrusion or any ties to WikiLeaks and others.
But they didn't want to know the answer, which was, of course not.
It never happened the way the FBI said it did.
And had they done their jobs, Russiagate would never have gotten off the ground.
Two key points.
We didn't know this at the time, of course, but Mr. Henry, in his sworn testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, finally admitted, gave up the ghost, admitted that his so-called CrowdStrikes report contained no proof whatsoever that the Russians had conducted an online hack of the DNC.
But when my lawyers made that assertion in court, prosecutor Jonathan Kravitz filed a very rare surreply, insisting that the government had additional evidence beyond the CrowdStrikes report which proved the hack.
I believe that he perpetrated a fraud upon the court because I don't believe there is any other evidence.
We know one thing for sure.
If there is, it most certainly didn't come from the FBI.
And of course, the case of the 17 Russian intelligence assets alleged A case that never went to trial, never went to discovery.
Prosecutors argued that that case was a related case to my case, so they were allowed to put my case before Judge Amy Berman Jackson.
And they promised the judge that at trial they would produce evidence against me that was gleaned from search warrants in that case.
Which they never did, because I don't believe there is any such evidence.
I know nothing whatsoever about any hack of the DNC, nor did I receive any materials whatsoever from WikiLeaks.
It is mind-boggling, however, that Mr. Durham doesn't even touch on these subjects, and instead he debunks the Steele dossier,
Which was essentially used as the rationale to open the FBI investigation Crossfire Hurricane, whereas Mr. Mueller, while he also used that as a justification for the launching of his investigation, or I should say, Rod Rosenstein used it as the rationale for his appointment, they also relied on this alleged hack of the DNC, which I don't believe ever actually happened.
Thank you for helping us clarify that.
You have written a children's book.
Tell us about that.
Well, you know, it's more relevant now than ever.
The Plot Against the King is book one of my two-part series, The Plot Against the King, where I break down Russiagate for kids.
And I don't say it's a Democratic or Republican thing.
We outline the fact that we live in a constitutional republic and that at times our law enforcement agencies, and we said it in medieval times, so we use knights and things for kids, hijack our system of laws to perpetuate a crime.
And that cannot happen in the United States of America.
And we borrow modern characters, and it became the number one kids book in the country.
So check it out, The Plot Against the King.
But to follow on that, I wrote Government Gangsters, my first adult book that outlines the flaws of the deep state.
And as Donald Trump put it, the roadmap to winning back the White House in 2024.
It's all available at governmentgangsters.com.
Here's the irony, Roger.
My book, my manuscript for Government Gangsters has been completed since last October, and I was forced to submit it to the government for review.
They've had it for over seven months.
And they have refused to let it go.
I filed a federal lawsuit two weeks ago for an injunctive relief so that my manuscript could be released.
They don't want this book out there for a reason.
I call out every government gangster who hijacks the agencies and departments of this country to serve their own egos instead of the American public and how elections get rigged and how our judiciary system is now a two-tier system of justice that is looked on by the rest of the world.
But we can fix it.
So folks, you can order that book online at GovernmentGangsters.com.
It obviously promises to be a dynamic read.
battle in court, and we will get this book out to the American public hopefully this summer.
So folks, you can order that book online at governmentgangsters.com.
It obviously promises to be a dynamic read.
The reason that at the top of the show I went into your extraordinarily extended biography is because Congressman Dan Goldman of Manhattan, a rich guy who just purchased himself a house seat, referred to you as a political hack, a rich guy who just purchased himself a house seat, referred to you Going through your biography, while you have been a political appointee to a number of law enforcement and prosecutorial jobs,
I don't see any campaign experience on here whatsoever.
You are the furthest thing from a political hack.
Mr. Goldman, however, who made all of his money on Wall Street, has never served in government, he essentially purchased himself a seat in the House with his personal fortune.
Not illegal, but in this case, unfortunate.
The reason I raise this is because recently the House Oversight Committee heard testimony from three FBI whistleblowers, Stephen Friend, Garrett O'Boyle, and Marcus Allen.
I've also interviewed Kyle Serafim.
I've had both Stephen Friend and now Garrett O'Boyle here on the Stone Zone.
Shocking testimony about the abuses in the FBI.
But Mr. Goldman accused you, Cash, of essentially paying them for their testimony.
And I wanted to give you an opportunity to respond to that.
Well, thanks, Roger.
I appreciate that because it's no surprise that Adam Schiff's protege, Dan Goleman, the heir to the Levi Strauss portion, who did purchase his seat.
And remember, Dan Goleman was the senior counsel for the January 6th committee in Adam Schiff and that sham investigation that they conducted.
So he's had a personal vendetta against me forever, which I find silly.
And you would think a member of the United States Congress could leave that at the door.
But of course, if you're Schiff's protege, you cannot.
And look, Roger, the left does not own the right to create charities and 501c3 organizations and help those in need.
That's what the Cash Foundation is.
It is a charity that was registered by the IRS and it took us seven months to get up and running.
And we now provide financial assistance to active duty veterans, to January 6th families, to law enforcement, to individuals who want to go to summer camp, to kids who want to pay for a sporting program that they can't pay for, and to whistleblowers.
But in no instance do I, Cash Patel singularly, go out and buy people's testimony.
More so, the foundation through our board certification process approves financial grants through those that are qualifying for them.
And in this case with Mr. Goldman, gets it entirely wrong and puts out a tweet that is completely defamatory, say for his hiding behind the speech and debate clause, that I was somehow buying witness testimony is a total lie.
I became familiar with the whistleblowers that you just laid out.
Like everybody else did, through the media.
They provided credible, accurate, whistleblower information showing corruption at the FBI.
They exposed Chris Wray as lying to Congress by saying he would never retaliate against whistleblowers, and these three individuals have all been relinquished of their duties, suspended without pay, and or terminated.
That is the definition of retaliation.
So our foundation found these individuals after they provided credible reporting to members of Congress and their lawyers, and then we provided them financial assistance that they could use as they see fit to pay their rent, Hey, moving expenses, which the FBI took from them, pay their mortgage, feed their children and shelter their families.
The left does not own the singular right to conduct charitable endeavors in this country.
And I find it ironic of all things that you have representative Goldman.
Who had witnesses before him appear, whose entire campaigns were funded by left-wing action groups, and when they have a GoFundMe page and their testimony is quote-unquote bought and sold for, they can get away with it, but they use their empty missives at us when we land effective Government oversight.
And I'm proud of those whistleblowers, and the Cash Foundation will continue that mission.
Check us out at thecashfoundation.com.
But I really appreciate you letting me respond to Mr. Goldman.
I've got an announcement, Roger, while I have you.
I haven't said this to anyone, but we will be referring Mr. Goldman for investigation by the House Ethics Committee.
We will also be sending a letter to the Department of Justice because Mr. Goldman may have himself disclosed classified information in a public setting.
And we will also be sending a letter to the Office of the Inspector General if any FBI or DOJ employee improperly conducted and communicated with Mr. Goldman about ongoing investigations that he shared with the American public and the world.
So we will continue to follow the rules as we always do.
And I'm asking Congress to subpoena all of Mr. Goldman's communications between himself and FBI and DOJ employees so we can get to the bottom of this.
Yeah, for those who are not familiar with it, Mr. Goldman essentially has congressional immunity, so he can defame Akech Patel without fear of being sued in a legal proceeding.
And that's...
The idea that you are helping these people, I think people need to understand, these suspended FBI agents are left high and dry.
So while they still technically work for the FBI, they are uncompensated.
And yes, they have to feed their families.
They have to pay their rent or their mortgage.
They are, in one case, Garrett O'Boyle told us yesterday that he and his family were rendered homeless.
So, go to the Cash Foundation.
Give us that address again, please.
The CashFoundation.com.
Cashfoundation.com.
That's easy enough, folks.
And help these brave patriots who have put their careers on the line.
We are honored to have Cash Patel here.
We appreciate his candid conversation.
about the Durham report and about his own part in the investigation into the Russian collusion hoax.
And I just want you to know, Cash, you have an open invitation here at the Stone Zone anytime you want to set the public record straight.
We're honored to have you, and I'm honored to call you my friend.
Folks, go to governmentgangsters.com.
We put that up on the screen for you.
And order a copy of this book, which I guarantee you is going to be a barn burner.
Thank you very much and God bless you.
Thank you.
Thank you, my friend, Roger.
Really appreciate being with you, and I'll be back soon.
There you have it, Kash Patel.
Coming up, live from the scene, Laura Loomer, the investigative journalist, is going to join me.
She is at the location where Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is on the verge of Announcing his candidacy for the Republican nomination for president against former President Donald Trump.
This is an event that Ms.
Loomer and I have predicted for a long time.
We were both chided by a number of Florida America First patriots that this was true, that we were dividing the movement, and of course we have been proven right.
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Thank you, Roger.
Thanks for having me.
So, as you can see, it's kind of loud out here because there are so many protesters protesting Ron DeSantis.
From the left and the right, it seems like the only thing that's really been able to bring the Democrats and the Republicans together in unity in our country over the last seven years Is there mutual opposition to a Governor Ron DeSantis presidential campaign?
So, you have Trump supporters behind me.
We have Blacks for Trump on the scene.
The Democrat Party has an LED video box truck running ads against DeSantis.
The Trump PAC has the same type of LED box truck running their anti-DeSantis and pro-Trump ads in support of President Trump.
And inside you can see, you know, this is a very bougie hotel, the Four Seasons Resort.
I actually booked a room here at this hotel just so I could like really document the full experience for everybody.
It costs $600 per night if you want to get a room here at this hotel so that you can participate if you're invited only.
Of course, you know, I didn't get the invite.
In Rod DeSantis's very elitist exclusive donor retreat as they're calling it.
Any minute now in the next 20 minutes he's expected to be delivering a Twitter space formal announcement with Elon Musk and big tech investor David Sachs.
I just want to remind everybody what's in favor of bailing out the banks in Silicon Valley.
David Sachs is also a longtime Hillary Clinton donor.
He helped bankroll the Mitt Romney campaign.
And all of these same establishment uniparty shills, right?
People who support Paul Ryan and the Bushes and the GOP establishment donor class, they're all united in their support for Ron DeSantis inside of this hotel.
Well, Laura, I guess I would say, first of all, this is a day that both you and I have said for some time was coming.
Early on, we were very broadly criticized.
We were told, no, no, no, Ron DeSantis would never do that, given the pivotal role that President Donald Trump played in the rise of Ron DeSantis.
But in retrospect, I believe this campaign has been planned For over two years.
I think it has been the plan of Governor DeSantis and his wife, First Lady Casey DeSantis, to challenge the man who literally made Ron DeSantis governor.
When I suggested some time ago that the situation was very similar to that of Lady Macbeth, Who, if you're familiar with your Shakespeare, urged her husband to do things that, in the end, were not in his best interest and caused his destruction.
A perfectly reasonable allegory.
I was told that my comments were misogynistic and sexist when, in fact, they are neither.
I will either, in the end, be proven to be right or proven to be wrong.
But I was making an analogy and I think It is a fair one.
I guess my question is, if you had a choice of seeing the Beatles Or seeing a Beatles tribute band, which one would you see?
Obviously, when it comes to the America First agenda, Donald Trump is the originator of that agenda.
And although the governor of Florida goes to great lengths to give lip service to that agenda, a man is known, a man or a woman, is known by the people they surround themselves with.
You have a theory about why all of these Silicon Valley tech billionaires seem to be rallying to the DeSantis banner.
The LED Fox truck just drove by, so I just want people to kind of get the experience before, you know, I'm gonna get into that as well.
But yeah, my theory, just repeat your question really quick if you can.
I just wanted to show your viewers these Fox trucks that are driving by.
My question was, why are all of these Silicon Valley billionaires, many of whom in the past have been major donors to Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton, why are they rallying to the banner of Ron DeSantis if Ron DeSantis is in fact a Trump-style, America First, anti-establishment Republican?
The tech executives who are rallying against President Trump and in support of Ron DeSantis are people like Elon Musk, even though he says that he hasn't endorsed anybody yet.
People like David Sachs, Joe Lonsdale, Al Lambert.
Peter Thiel.
And these are all people who originally, many of them from the PayPal mafia, they go back, they have a lot of common interests in their hedge funds and their different tech investments, typically in artificial intelligence technologies and I believe that they're trying to shift the power structure within Silicon Valley from the radical left to more neocon conservative control.
And I'm not talking about with America First agendas.
I'm talking about hedge funds and tech companies that are sold out to China.
And these executives are hoping, this is my theory, that if they back Ron DeSantis with their Silicon Valley cash, that they're going to get some type of government contract, right, to carry out their projects with artificial intelligence or whatever their technological endeavors may be, which could be very to carry out their projects with artificial intelligence or whatever their technological endeavors may be, which could And we know that President Trump is the only pro-peace, anti-war candidate who is in the GOP primary right now.
We know that Ron DeSantis is a war hawk.
He really got his career started as a prosecutor overseeing torture at Guantanamo Bay during the Iraq war.
He has created a huge push for the Iraq war.
He is in favor of war with Russia.
And the fact of the matter is, if you have somebody who has a service that could be used by the military or could be used by federal agencies for the sake of surveillance, like a lot of these technologies that these investors are involved in, we're talking billions of dollars like a lot of these technologies that these investors are involved in, we're talking billions So it's very sinister and all of these big tech executives are people who have been
Like I said before, anti-Trump in their rhetoric in the past, and also supportive of people like Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney.
Um, that's why he is having his space tonight with Elon Musk and David Sachs.
It's not some random moderator.
People need to know that David Sachs donated.
He actually donated to Ron DeSantis in 2021.
He, uh, and sorry, we're, uh, we're kind of navigating.
That's why the camera keeps moving.
Uh, heavy police presence and also, too, a lot of people, a lot of traffic.
They, I don't know why they decided to have their event in downtown Brickell, one of those congested areas in the middle of rush hours.
So, Tons of people, you know, trying to get home from a long days of work and, you know, protesters on both sides of the aisle and police blocking traffic.
So, kind of a chaotic scene here.
But the fact of the matter is, is these are not America First individuals, okay?
A lot of the donors that I spotted inside, a lot of the GOP consultant type, these are the people that supported Ted Cruz's campaign in 2016.
I see a lot of familiar faces from people who supported Jeb Bush's primary in 2016 as well.
I kind of have this analogy, like, revenge of the nerds.
But instead of revenge of the nerds, it's like revenge of everybody that got dissed and owned and showed up by President Trump in 2016.
They've all decided to unite in their shared deficiencies, right?
And their shared unlikability by the American people.
And that's why they are united inside of one of the most expensive resorts in Miami, Florida, to wage war against the America First Movement and officially commence the stabbing of the knife into the back of the MAGA America First Movement and President Donald Trump.
I just read online that the minimum price for a ticket to tonight's event is $5,000, so this is clearly not geared to the working Floridian.
I'm going to give Elon Musk the benefit of the doubt.
He is a tremendous promoter and he clearly understands As he did when he allowed Robert Kennedy to do a Twitter space, that this is going to bring many, many people to the platform that he owns.
I also read a great piece in the Gateway Pundit in which he said he would be happy to have Twitter spaces with Donald Trump, Robert Kennedy again, Vivek, and other candidates, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt, and candidly, I'm just grateful to be back
On one social media application since I'm still banned for life as you are on Facebook on Instagram And so on on YouTube and so on but the the manner of this event of this announcement is It's really strange.
In other words, I read today that a giant public announcement where there would actually be people at a baseball field in Dunedin, Florida, which is Ron DeSantis' hometown, has now been canceled.
So a completely tech-oriented presidential announcement, this is really a first, no?
He canceled, like you just said, he canceled his country boy hometown welcoming event.
He wanted to make himself seem like he's a man of the people.
He was supposed to have an event, as you just said, in Dunedin, where he was born, and he canceled that.
That was reported today, and instead he's having this event at the Four Seasons in Miami.
We'll see what happens.
He doesn't really seem to want to be around people, as you and I have talked about extensively.
It's very hot out here, by the way, so forgive me.
You know, he's a bit on the spectrum, I'd say.
He has a very hard time communicating with people.
He has very, I guess you could call it, autistic mannerisms.
The head-bobbling and the lack of communication skills of people, the inability to really communicate on a human level that even his own supporters have described as one of his biggest weaknesses.
This is the perfect event for him to have a closed-door event, blocked off to the everyday person, only surrounded by donors and also Doing a Twitter space because we know that he Doesn't really have charisma.
He doesn't have that Trump appeal for the camera And so he doesn't want to be criticized for his erratic head-bobbling and his weird neck twitch and his uncontrollable laugh Which would you know be criticized if there were video involved with this announcement
So with Twitter spaces there's no video just audio and you can you can see that his PR team is probably his biggest accomplishment and his PR team got one thing right and that's the fact that you know it's probably best for DeSantis not to be on camera tonight because he doesn't really do so well with the
I just got a text message from a friend at Sardelli's Italian Steakhouse in Hollywood, where not long ago, Governor Ron DeSantis had a high-dollar fundraiser, but the crowd was disappointed because he greeted no one.
He kind of popped in, got their checks, and he popped out.
I've often thought that the likability factor in politics, as well as the entertainment factor, is extraordinarily possible.
It was always my theory that President Richard Nixon, who I worked for, was an introvert in an expert's business, that he was not arrogant but painfully shy, and that he had to work very hard to make small talk and try to be a regular guy.
I think this was a key element in his comeback.
He adapted And I guess I would say the governor does very well in a scripted situation in which he controls the microphone.
It's why you will, I think, never see him give a no-holds-barred interview to any reporter from a down-the-middle or even a hostile media outlet.
Now, when Donald Trump ran in 2016, In lieu of spending $600 million in broadcast and cable television advertising, as Jeb Bush did, mostly to attack Donald Trump, it was Trump's strategy to do as many interviews a day as humanly possible.
There were literally days when he did as many as 10 across-the-board interviews.
I don't see how you win the Iowa caucuses, you win the New Hampshire primary, you win the South Carolina primaries.
I'm not sure the candidacy of Ron DeSantis We'll be alive by the time Florida has its primary, but if it were held today Donald Trump leads the very popular governor by double digits in his home state.
So I think this likability factor is going to become very key.
Now, his supporters have said, well, these poll numbers are immaterial.
They're subject to change.
They are subject to change.
That is true.
But based on everything I've seen, Donald Trump has a hardcore, incredibly intense base of supporters of somewhere around 40% of the vote.
These are people who will be with Trump regardless of the political atmosphere, regardless if he continues to be persecuted through lawfare, because it's very, very clear to me That the reason Trump is being targeted, both federally and in the state actions, is because the one candidate they don't want to run against is Donald J. Trump.
What do you think?
Yeah, look, he's only going to become more popular, and by he I'm speaking of President Trump, the more he is persecuted.
We saw in the aftermath of the indictments and the arrests that his poll numbers skyrocketed.
You and I had the pleasure of being invited to attend the President's address after his indictment.
His poll numbers increased drastically, and I think the more people get to know Ron DeSantis, the less they like him.
And that's really been the factor here.
His poll numbers were actually much higher months ago, initially, before people started to realize what was going on.
But the more he opened his mouth and the more he started to be exposed for the deceitful, dishonest, disloyal, rhino, establishment puppet that he is, people don't really like him.
You know, I know people who are diehard Trump supporters who, you know, attended some of his book signings just to kind of hear what he was about, right?
And they weren't impressed.
They didn't come away impressed by him at all.
I think you're right, Roger.
We're going to see today, I bet if there were polls conducted tomorrow, you would see that DeSantis is going to drastically drop in the polls, because people are waking up that this is a guy who owes his entire political career to President Donald Trump, and he's a traitor!
He lied to Floridians!
How are Floridians supposed to feel about the fact that they don't have a governor anymore?
We did not vote for pro-amnesty, anti-Trump identity politics, loving Jeanette Nunez to be our governor.
I don't want Jeanette Nunez to be my governor.
Ron DeSantis took an oath in January, four months ago.
OK, honking.
That's honks in support of President Trump, by the way.
So all that honking right now is people in Miami.
They say that Ron DeSantis supposedly won Miami.
All I see is support for President Trump and Hanks against Ron DeSantis here in Miami.
So, we'll see about that.
But I'm going to be reporting throughout the night.
This is a 48-hour event.
It's going to go into tomorrow as well.
And there's donors that are going to be having a political briefing.
Just walking around the lobby earlier and kind of the outskirts of this event, they're giving out little sheets to donors called Investor Toolkits.
So, it's an Investor Toolkit.
And there's been a lot of polo side meetings with donors in the hallway as well.
So if you want to come out, if you're watching from Florida, it's the Four Seasons on Brickell Avenue.
Hundreds of people.
The crowds continue to grow even larger with opposition to Governor Ron DeSantis's presidential campaign.
We called it, like you said, Roger.
We have been speaking about this for the last few years, and you and I both have been called crazy and paranoid for saying that Ron DeSantis is going to be running for president.
But I think that, you know, today we've been vindicated, just like we've been vindicated about everything else, right?
Perhaps people should subscribe to our sub stack.
What do you say, Roger?
Because it seems to me like you and I know what we're talking about.
Speaking of substax, an extraordinary article that you wrote, which revealed that Governor DeSantis, whose book was initially supposed to be published by Simon & Schuster, switched the publication of that to HarperCollins, a publishing house owned by the News Corporation, which is, of course, Rupert Murdoch.
And I believe, based on your piece, that the governor and his wife received a $2.3 million advance against that book.
Now, that book is not going to sell $2.3 million worth of copies.
In fact, I would argue it's not even going to sell $100,000 worth of copies.
Not because of its author, but largely because books today don't sell, unless of course the books are bought by one of the super PACs or one of the committees funded by Ron DeSantis.
But even more troubling in the piece I read This seems to me like an illegitimate and perhaps even illegal enrichment.
It's a payoff to Ron DeSantis and his wife because HarperCollins knows that they're never going to recover that money.
So in essence, it's a gift from Mr. Murdoch.
But additionally, you uncovered the fact that HarperCollins is among the publishers of the very books that are being used to give pornography, in essence, to schoolchildren in Florida under the age in essence, to schoolchildren in Florida under the age of – in the grades of one through five.
So, In essence, DeSantis is taking an advance from the very publishing company that is publishing the books that he is seeking to ban from the public schools.
This seems to me to be an extraordinary act of hypocrisy.
Can you speak to that?
Absolutely.
And it's even more than $2 million.
$2 million was the amount that Simon & Schuster was reportedly supposed to give him.
I was told that Rupert Murdoch between nearly doubled or even quadrupled that amount.
I mean, we know that Megyn Kelly, for example, just to put this into comparison, When she was at Fox News, I believe her book deal with Rupert Murdoch was like $8 million or so.
So Ron DeSantis is making millions of dollars, whether it's $2, $4, $6, or $8 million.
He's making more money than he did with his deal with Simon & Schuster, but this was a way for him to concoct a story.
Oh, I don't want to do my book deal with Simon & Schuster because of their relationship with CBS 60 Minutes and CBS did a hit piece, yada, yada, yada.
No, he wants to have it all streamlined with Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox News, who owns the New York Post, who owns Wall Street Journal, who owns HarperCollins because it's a free It's basically an illegal in-kind contribution and money laundering.
I mean, we all know that this book deal is just going to be used as a way to pump up his financial disclosure form so that he doesn't look broke compared to Donald Trump, who's a billionaire.
If you look at Ron DeSantis' financial disclosure form, he's only worth $350,000.
The guy's never worked in the public sector.
Or private sector, for that matter.
He's never really done anything.
He was a piss collector in the Navy and oversaw torture at Guantanamo.
He was a prosecutor for the federal government.
I mean, he really is one of these deep state prosecutors, which is why you see so much Support for Governor Ron DeSantis from these alphabet agencies and agents within our government agencies that are simultaneously targeting Trump supporters in the MAGA base.
After January 6th, Ron DeSantis actually allowed for Capitol Police to set up a station in Tampa, Florida to hunt down and track down Trump supporters, okay?
He has allowed for the FBI to hunt down and knock down the doors of Floridians who are Trump supporters who attended the protests on J6.
Florida has the highest number of J6 defendants out of any state in the country.
So, all of this is going to be coming out.
You know, it's rather hot out here and I need to start recording soon because this Twitter space, I believe, is going to begin any moment now and I want to be able to get inside back in the hotel.
I did notice that when I was getting on the elevator, funny story, Gary Lester, who's one of the reps for the Villages here, who represents the political interests of the developers in the Villages, he recognized me because, you know, I won the Villages when I ran for Congress, and when he saw me, he freaked out because he saw that I saw his badge, which means that I guess the developers in the Villages are in the bag for DeSantis, which is going to be a problem because the base of the Villages, they're overwhelmingly pro-Trump, so
You know, there's a lot of people who are in attendance here that really don't want people knowing that they're here, and that's why I'm here, because I'm going to find out who's here who doesn't want to be known, and I'm going to tell everybody that they're here.
All right, Laura, I know you need to begin your own feed.
Folks, go to lauralumer.substack.com to subscribe to her groundbreaking Substack, where she does some of the toughest and most heavily documented investigative journalism in America today.
Laura Loomer, I know this has been difficult logistically.
I see my good friend Maurice with Blacks for Trump there.
Please give him my regards.
But thank you and God bless you for joining us.
Get their behinds out here.
I don't appreciate them not supporting Trump and you and Laura and everybody that's supposed to be supported right now against this punk ass bastard named Ronny DeSantis.
All these racist rhinos.
are supporting racist wrong against Trump, the greatest president we have ever had.
I saw you on TV the other night.
You look good, bro.
You look young as hell.
And you did damn good.
So I'm with you all the way.
All right.
Thank you.
That is my good friend Maurice with the Blacks for Trump.
And And a special thanks to Laura Loomer who is live on the scene at the extraordinarily expensive and posh Four Seasons Hotel on Brickell in Miami with that devastating report.
We also want to go to the Twitter feed, the very unorthodox way in which Governor DeSantis has elected to announce his candidacy.
Again, I'm giving Elon Musk the benefit of the doubt.
He's made the platform available to Robert Kennedy.
He, according to a piece I read in the Gateway Pundit today, is willing to make it available as well to Donald Trump.
I hope Donald Trump will soon return to Twitter where he has millions and millions of followers.
Thank you very much for joining us.
Special thanks to Kash Patel for joining us with not only his breakdown of the Durham report, but also the counterpoint to Congressman Dan Goldman, who hid behind his congressional immunity to defame Kash Patel and accuse him of bribery and also again to my good friend, Laura Loomer.
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