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April 27, 2023 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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Roger Stone Reacts to Tucker Carlson Firing
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Was it this interview that helped contribute to Tucker's being removed?
I don't think we'll ever really know.
Well, Roger, in all fairness, from my sources and everything, you're right, it's not one thing, so we'll never know what one thing it was, because it wasn't one thing.
We know from the emails, we know from the texts, the Dominion suit, and things Tucker said, and I'm going to leave it at that, that he was constantly fighting with him.
He had me booked on his show.
And I was going to go out there a long time ago, and his Fox Nation show, and they said no.
And he's like, well, my contract says I could do this.
I took a major pay cut of two-thirds to do this.
And so he was pissed about that.
And we talked about it on Thanksgiving.
I won't get into the details about it.
So there was that.
And they were just mad about everything.
They quote said in the emails, he's out of control, uncontrollable.
So we know it was all of it.
It was hitting on all cylinders.
That's why it happened.
I have a theory that maybe it's not what he's done in the past, but what they feared he might do in the future.
I was going to say that earlier.
Like the war and everything else in like January 6th, they don't want him there knowing he's such a truth teller.
That's it.
He was removed for what he would do in the future.
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But the great Roger Stone, another embattled man, who has gone through the fires of hell and come out stronger, and his faith redoubled in the Lord, Joins us, and from all my intel, I'll leave it at that, they were planning to get rid of Tucker.
They didn't know what to do, but his speech calling on God and saying good versus evil pushed him over the edge.
There was a meeting a month before in Bel Air at the big vineyard mansion of Rupert Murdoch with his then-fiancée, who's a big fan of Tucker.
She asked him to be there, and they're sitting there, and they're reading the Bible together.
Well, that's what I've done with Tucker.
This is real, folks.
Tucker didn't used to be really religious.
He did not believe in God, but he was like, but when you see the real evil in the world, you see how they push it to their own detriment, you understand it's a plan.
And Roger talks about that.
So, the final straw was the heritage speech.
Not just the anti-war, not just exposing the vaccine, not just exposing open borders, not just exposing the deep state spying, but calling on God and saying we should all pray.
That's what they can't stand.
So we have Roger Stone, who's been a former Fox contributor himself.
Secret contract, can't talk about it.
That's how they control everybody.
He's not been in that contract for years.
But Roger, I want to get your take on this because this is a big deal and You know, we had dinner.
Won't get into the details of it.
Specifically on deplatforming.
Specifically on alternate plans.
A few years ago in Miami with Tucker.
And we've, of course, both of us had subsequent other meetings with him.
But the point is, Tucker is very pleased.
We'll put the photos up of him.
A little, little birdie told me that something big's about to come out of this.
And Tucker is just as pleased as punch.
Roger Stone.
Well, Alex, I grieve not for our friend Tucker Carlson, because he is more than just a TV talk show host.
He's the single most influential conservative commentator in the country today.
And they're not going to be able to hide that light under a bushel.
So wherever he goes, whatever he chooses to do next, and I kind of hope it's some Combination of print journalism, because he's a brilliant writer, as well as some video, either net-based or cable presence.
He's going to be massively successful.
No, I grieve for our country because what this move has done is there is really no last vestige of alternative narrative discussion on cable television.
Now, cable overall, I think, is a dying medium.
Cable ultimately will go the way of broadcast television.
Their numbers are, you know, as you know, are in the toilet.
Millions are watching us here on Infowars.
Millions watching on other web-based platforms.
If you look at the two remaining cable-based outlets, Real America's Voice, Newsmax, good people, Patriots, but not Infowars in terms of their willingness to tackle very difficult issues. but not Infowars in terms of their willingness to tackle Tucker Carlson, we won't really ever know what specific event led to this, but our nation
for it because cable television has now been completely canceled and censored.
Whether it was Tucker's exposure of what really happened on January 6th, or whether it was his discussion of the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop, or whether it was calling out the deep state on their efforts to push us into World War III, that's kind of a biggie, whether or whether it was calling out the deep state on their efforts to push us into World War III, that's kind Whether it was giving Robert Kennedy a voice when nobody else would.
When Robert Kennedy did his announcement, which I found very interesting by the way.
Powerful.
He was censored within five minutes.
Facebook Live shut him down.
And they were pulling fire alarms.
Yeah, I mean, look, ideas are dangerous to these people.
Now, you can go on the Internet right now and you'll see you'll see these bots constantly saying the Robert Kennedy candidacy is a it's a it's a product of Roger Stone and Steve Bennett.
Nonsense.
He's an acquaintance of mine.
I wouldn't call us close friends.
I admire his views on the neocons, on the globalists, on the government corporate takeover of America.
The merger of corporations and government.
The fascism.
He's dead on.
You know, they killed his uncle.
They killed his father.
So therefore, he has to be cognizant of the fact that what he's doing is extraordinarily dangerous.
So was it this interview that helped contribute to Tucker's being removed?
I don't think we'll ever really know.
Well, Roger, in all fairness, from my sources and everything, you're right.
It's not one thing.
So we'll never know what one thing it was because it wasn't one thing.
We know from the emails, we know from the text, the Dominion suit and things Tucker said.
And I'm going to leave it at that, that he was constantly fighting with them.
He had me booked on a show and I was going to go out there a long time ago.
And and his, you know, his Fox Nation show.
And they said no.
And he's like, well, my contract says I could do this.
I took a major pay cut of two-thirds to do this.
And so he was pissed about that.
And we talked about it on Thanksgiving.
I won't get into the details about it.
So there was that.
And they were just mad about everything.
They quote said in the emails, he's out of control, uncontrollable.
So we know it was all of it.
It was hitting on all cylinders.
That's why it happened.
I have a theory that maybe it's not what he's done in the past, but what they feared he might do in the future.
I was going to say that earlier, like the war and everything else, and like January 6th, they don't want him there knowing he's such a truth teller.
That's it.
He was removed for what he would do in the future.
Here's the political problem, though, from my point of view, and that is we have a lot of Americans 60 and over.
Many of them are right of center, many of them conservatives.
They're not particularly net savvy.
They're used to going and turning on the television and getting Tucker Carlson, or turning on the television and getting the programming that they want.
So the problem here is that I think conservative media, alternative media, continues to be ghettoized.
Yes, we can talk to our own people, and that has value.
I mean, there's no question that that has value.
That's why we've got to do what you do.
We've got to do more outreach.
That's why I don't like doing a bunch of interviews, but I do them on talk radio.
I do them on other shows.
I go on leftist shows.
I go to leftist panels that go viral because that's how I get out of the ghetto.
Exactly.
We can't just sit here in the church Absolutely true.
I think that's why you never turn down any opportunity.
You know that old Gore Vidal saying, never pass up the opportunity to be on television or to have sex.
Well, on the first part of that, I strongly agree.
I'm too old for the other part.
It's a famous saying, as you know.
No, Tucker Carlson will be fine, but the question is, how will America be?
That's the real question.
I totally agree, Roger, and again, I don't want to say this is a positive thing.
In many aspects, it's not, and you're right, and it shows they're still pushing the censorship, the surveillance, the incredible hearings over the last month that exposed everything that you and I and others went through and how it was pointed at the entire American people and how they helped steal the election.
With that, that's proven, regardless of machines or mail-in ballots and, you know, all the rest of that, that's almost a red herring.
This is a sign of desperation by them to get rid of the number one talk show, political talk show.
Not just here, it was big around the world.
To kill that showed the incredible behind-the-scenes pressure.
That's not a sign of strength by the establishment.
That's a sign of weakness.
Well, I also think it is, there's going to be a cleansing, a further cleansing at Fox.
I expect Judge Jeanine Pirro, a good friend of mine, another truth teller, I expect she won't be there much longer.
Maria Bartiromo, who I don't know, but who I greatly admire as a trailblazing reporter, who's fearless in what she covers, I suspect she too will be gone.
I did think that Sean Hannity's defense of Tucker and saying this is not a decision he agreed with last night.
You know, the suits at Fox hated that.
I give I give props to Sean for for speaking up and saying how he felt.
It's not his decision.
But I think you're going to see that the pro Trump voices, the pro America first voices will be leaving Fox.
And what you're going to have left are your you barely call them conservatives, your You're George W. Bush conservatives.
You're so-called neo-conservatives who are not really conservatives.
You just nailed it.
As Trump said last week, the old neocon order, the country club republican order, is dead.
It is dead with the population.
But this is their counter-strike.
This is their desperate attempt to maintain control.
Can you speak to that?
Yeah, Paul Ryan is the classic example of this.
Paul Ryan grows out of the Jack Kemp tradition.
But like many who goes to Washington, he becomes corrupted over time.
And today he is a neocon Republican on the board of Fox, according to some of the emails that have been published.
He is a major factor in the sacking of Tucker Carlson.
I think it's very clear, Alex, that Fox is no longer about making money.
They're not interested in making money.
If they were, they just killed their biggest cash cow.
I mean, Tucker Carlson was a huge moneymaker for them.
They could pay more for their advertise, charge more for their advertising because of the enormous numbers that he ran.
So they would rather be politically correct than profitable.
And look, the idea of Brian Kilmeade stepping up in Tucker's stead.
That's really pathetic.
There's just no other way to put it.
It really is.
Let's expand on this.
And Tucker did not say it was off the record, but I never talked about it.
But that particular dinner we had for two and a half, three hours in Miami a year and a half, two years ago, where it was all about deplatforming plans, alternative systems, without getting in all the details.
I don't know Tucker's plans, but it's come out that he is planning something.
The best thing for him to do would be launch his new show at the end of the year, early next year, and then hire as reporters at first people that do once a week special reports, a Laura Logan, I know you already have your other show, but a Roger Stone, you know, maybe even bring in a Lou Dobbs.
You know, the point is, these are all the super heavy hitters that have already been censored, already been blocked.
And then with Tucker at the helm of that, but also with articles being written about it, and with producers fact-checking everything before it goes out, it would be absolutely explosive, and it's the thing to do.
And so I predict that's what Tucker's going to do.
From your mouth to God's ears, I think his next act is going to be his greatest act of all.
He's young.
He's vital.
He's determined.
He's a man of enormous courage.
I don't think he saw this coming.
And I think reflecting back on our dinner, I don't think he had a contingency plan because he had a multi-year contract, reportedly a $20 million a year contract.
So whatever years he has Left.
Sure, but let's hope it's not golden handcuffs like Ventura.
They signed him for five years or whatever and then fired him in a year and then he couldn't work for four.
If I know Tucker, he'll just, if that's in there, he'll just give the money back.
But without getting into it, and I had some other conversations with him, he knew he could be fired any time.
And he was fighting with these producers.
And he said he didn't care.
And so he said, he said, I don't care.
I'm not stopping no matter what.
And that's what, you know, he told me at Thanksgiving.
So I think we've seen that.
Well, people weren't tuning in just because they liked his delivery style.
They were tuning in because of the news that he constantly broke, because of his willingness to challenge the conventional wisdom narrative, because of his willingness to stand up, whether it was Big Pharma, whether it was January 6th, or whether it was the war, or whether it was Hunter Biden's laptop.
Or whether, in my case, it was the outrageousness of the Mueller witch hunt, where they basically were pressuring me to lie against Donald Trump.
I have to be very honest.
If it were not for Tucker Carlson, would I even be alive today?
Would I be here on this show today?
No, absolutely.
He championed you and championed... He's the only national show that played the clips of me trying to stop people going to the Capitol.
They were trying to indict me.
The Justice Department literally was trying to indict me.
And came very close.
They basically admitted.
But because of those clips and the fact that Tucker put it out, wow.
So it is a big loss.
He'll be okay.
He'll be back.
I know he likes to hunt.
I know he misses his wife.
I know he's really happy, you know, overall right now.
But I hope he doesn't wait too long.
I hope he, you know, gets going quickly because we need him on the field.
He's a very savvy guy, so I think that he's probably working on a plan right now.
The only question in my mind is whether it is net-based, whether it is cable-based.
By the way, I think it's very important to recognize that there's a major effort to do away with AM radio.
Ford has announced And Tesla has also announced that there will not be AM radio receivers in their next generation of vehicles.
And by the way, an AM receiver, for those people that don't know, cost them like $3 to put in the computer.
I looked it up.
It's literally nothing.
It's a tiny little chip part.
But AM radio is a vital, important asset in terms of alternative and conservative messaging.
Talk, conservative talk radio is still very, very powerful in this country.
The emergency broadcast system is based in our AM radio networks.
Uh, yet there's a concerted effort to do away from it.
Just like they want to get rid of cash.
And this is key because old media didn't watch and listen to you.
All the new media tracks what you do.
It's two way.
So we need to keep broadcast TV and radio because you know, next is going to be FM radio.
Absolutely.
We've got that.
I think congressional law, uh, you know, ought to basically say, uh, that it's baked into the cake that, that, that, that communications need to stay there.
Well, and the emergency broadcast system justifies it.
It's the most important way to get to all Americans.
I mean, those who listen to AM radio, this is just a fact, they tend to be more middle and lower socioeconomic Americans.
They're usually doing something else while they're listening to the radio.
Mostly driving, but not completely.
And they don't want to have to have a phone, and a phone can break or cut out.
Absolutely.
And there's a major move to do that.
First of all, I think Kevin McCarthy, while I laud the fact that he gave all of the January I think Kevin McCarthy, while I laud the fact that he gave all of the January 6 videos or he made them available to Tucker, I still believe he needs to fulfill his campaign pledge, put them all
So the attorneys for those who are charged regarding January 6th can see them, so that journalists, all journalists can see them, so that all American citizens can see them and make their own judgments.
That's what he committed to do, with no disrespect to Tucker Carlson at all, who I think produced some great Alex, I'm sorry, I'm still not convinced.
I think that this announcement of this week means that he's a placeholder.
So he announced his candidacy.
I presume that he's filing with the Federal Election Commission.
It does not mean that in January of next year that he's going to file the petitions to get on the ballot in South Carolina.
And they've now streamlined the Democratic process to try to kneecap Robert Kennedy.
So there is no Iowa caucuses.
There is no first in the nation, New Hampshire primary.
He's way worse than ever.
He's degenerating.
state committees insist on going forward, they'll be after the South Carolina contest, and they'll be stripped of their delegates.
So the big question is, and I totally agree, he can't even barely talk.
I mean, he's way worse than ever.
He's degenerating.
His sell-by date was years ago, so the expiration date is gone.
Who are they planning to bring in?
Is it Newsom?
Is Hillary crazy enough to try it again?
Is it Big Mike?
I think that it is Michelle Obama.
I think Michelle Obama could raise $100 billion in two weeks.
The convention is in Chicago, her hometown.
South Carolina is a state where demographically African-American Democrats dominate the primary.
It is the home state of her grandparents.
I still think, in the end, she is your most likely Democratic nominee.
Now, the more she says, I'm not interested, I'm not running, the more I become convinced that that is absolutely the plan.
Let me ask you a question, Roger.
Here is Big Mike coming out of a building, a university, and what do you think is happening there?
What is Big Mike adjusting, and what is bouncing around?
I'm not going to speculate on that.
I've had my good friend Joel Gilbert has an extraordinarily effective and very well done both book and documentary called Michelle Obama 2024.
And I think he makes a very compelling case about how she's in the midst of reinventing herself and how she changes up her diction and her hairstyle at campaign time.
I think she'd be a very formidable candidate if she elects to run.
She would not be carrying the baggage of Joe Biden.
She's not responsible for record gasoline prices.
She's not responsible for the- So you really think they're going to run Big Mike?
I believe Michelle Obama will be the nominee of the Democratic Party.
I've written it and spoken about it for some time.
And anybody who thinks that that will be simple and that she will be a non-formidable candidate, I think is kidding themselves.
Now, they obviously have an issue in Vice President Kamala Harris.
She would have to step aside.
Poll numbers are even worse than Joe Biden's.
And it's hard to say, she's even less articulate than Biden.
I mean, what a group of morons.
All right, Roger Stone, thank you so much for the time.
Stonezone.com, you host your Frank Speech Show, 5 p.m.
what is it, Eastern?
And we really appreciate you.
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Many thanks, Alex.
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