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March 29, 2023 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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Exposing 2020 FRAUD, and How to WIN in 2024 w/ Greg Stenstrom on the StoneZONE w/ Roger Stone
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And now, Lindell TV brings you The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
I'm Roger Stone, and it's Monday, and you're back in the Stone Zone.
I know.
On Friday, I had the privilege Of being the guest at a martini mixer sponsored by the New York Young Republican Club.
The New York Young Republican Club is the oldest and largest young Republican club in the United States under the able leadership of Gavin Mario Wax and a host of other great men and women who've made it one of the most vibrant, active, Campaign, uh, young Republican clubs, uh, in the United States.
Now I am myself a former young Republican national chairman serving in that position from 1977 to 1979.
I must tell you that the event, uh, in little Italy was fantastic.
A substantial number of BLM and Antifa demonstrators outside screaming for my blood.
That always warms the cockles of my heart.
But an incredibly vibrant crew of overwhelmingly young people backing the club, whose past members actually include Governor Thomas E. Dewey, U.S.
Attorney General Herbert Brownell, Former Mayor John Lindsay, before he switched and became a Democrat, Nelson Rockefeller, former governor of New York, and even former Vice President Richard Nixon.
On Thursday, Gavin Wax is going to join us here on the Stone Zone to talk about the activities of his club, but we have a quick clip for you.
I'm saying.
Now, some people say the martini originated in 1887 in a hotel in San Francisco.
The theme of the party, of course, was as a martini mixer.
Now, some people say the martini originated in 1887 in a hotel in San Francisco, was originally called the Martinez, named after the bartender who made it.
Others argue that it first began in 1911 in the Knickerbocker Hotel in New York.
But with the invention of bathtub gin during the time of Prohibition, the martini became much, much simpler.
The earlier iterations of the martini, either gin or vodka, Uh, involved bitters, uh, and had a greater proportion of vermouth, either sweet or dry, uh, and a lesser proportion of either gin or vodka.
With the advent of prohibition, well, you have the stripped down martini of today.
I, of course, walked people there through Richard Nixon's personal recipe for the so-called silver bullet, as he called it.
Let me summarize it for you.
You take a jar of olives.
You drain the juice.
You fill it with water.
You put the cap back on.
You shake vigorously.
You drain the water.
You fill the bottle with dry, not sweet, vermouth, and you refrigerate it.
In the meantime, you have chilled a couple of iconic martini glasses.
Once the olives and the glasses are properly chilled, you take a silver or aluminum cocktail shaker, a very substantial amount of ice, and you cover it, in this case, with vodka.
Now you shake extremely vigorously.
As Nixon said to me, if you don't have tiny shards of ice on the surface of the martini, well, that means you've effed it up.
Once you have finished your vigorous shaking, you remove two olives from the jar, cover with the chilled martini, and you have the perfect silver bullet.
It was a great privilege for me to be at the Young Republican event on Friday.
Very special thanks to Gigi's Restaurant in Little Italy, who jumped in at the last minute and agreed to host the event when the previous host got cold feet based on the substantial number of death threats phoned into his restaurant.
By New York leftists.
It was a great time and we'll be talking about it some more and bringing you some video on Thursday when Gavin Wax, chairman of the Young Republican Club, joins us here on the Stone Zone.
A gentleman who accompanied me to the event was Greg Stenstrom.
He is a very engaging individual, comes from the IT world.
He and Leah Hoopes have co-written a book called The Parallel Election, and we spent several hours discussing not only that incredible book, but also the entire situation facing the country in terms of our need for honest, fair, transparent elections.
So now, through the modern miracle of technology, Greg Stenstrom and Leah Hoopes join us here on the Stone Zone.
Boom!
Nice to be here.
God bless you.
Thank you so much for being here.
I think a good place to start might be, we'll start, even though it's normally ladies first, we'll start with you, Greg.
You don't come from a political background.
You're not, by any means, a politician.
That's not where your motivation, at least originally, comes from.
Tell folks your background and how you came to this moment.
My background is I'm a former U.S.
Naval officer, graduated from the U.S.
Naval Academy, and I was a surface warfare officer, a U.S.
Navy diver, I had a commanding officer and executive officer roles in Naval Special Warfare and Naval Special Operations.
In my civilian career, I'm a IT specialist and I specialize in security, forensics, fraud.
I've worked for municipal, state, and federal governments in investigations of fraud, massive fraud, and I've worked with private companies and financial institutions as well on fraud.
So I was recruited by Leah Hoopes.
Uh, who is a committee woman who will introduce herself in a moment to, uh, engage, uh, with her and look at the election fraud that, uh, was taking place in Delaware County, Pennsylvania.
And, uh, that's how we, we met and how I came into the game.
I'm apolitical.
I am a registered Republican.
Uh, I do, uh, I supported president Trump and like him very much, but I'm apolitical and not involved in politics at all.
And, uh, I came in as a, I would say, interested third party.
All right.
And Leah, you're a business owner and a Republican committee woman for Bethel Township in Delaware County, Pennsylvania.
Tell us a bit more about yourself.
Sure.
So I'm a small business owner and I became a committee woman in 2019.
And the reason I got involved in politics is because of Donald Trump.
That's basically in a nutshell, and I was looking into Delaware County, which had flipped from Republican after 150 years to Democrat, and myself, and quite a few other wonderful people from Delaware County, blue-collar people who got interested in what was going on in our county when we started to do investigations.
I have a natural knack for, you know, I'm a very good investigator, and I wanted to get involved in my county in order to save it.
I'm actually hated more so by the Pennsylvania GOP and my county GOP because I criticize both sides of the aisle.
I recruited Greg because I knew that a fraud was happening in Delaware County and I wanted it investigated by the best.
So, that's it.
That's it in a nutshell.
I also note that you are a CRAV MAGA instructor and practitioner.
You train women in self-defense, both physically and emotionally.
You're not only a political activist, but you also hold an Associate of Arts degree in Criminal Justice from Delaware Community College, and an Associate of Science degree in Physical Therapy.
Don't mess with Leah or she will kick your ass.
I'm really delighted that you could join us here.
You have jointly written a book called The Parallel Election, A Blueprint for Deception, subtitled Evidence of Massive Election Fraud in Delaware County, Pennsylvania in November 2020.
Now, I confess that I have the book, I've only had a chance to skim it.
I will devour it.
But I guess let's start with Leah.
Can you summarize the basic hypotheses of the election fraud in Delaware County, which is a pivotal county if any Republican is to carry the Keystone State, and how it fits in with the overall national narrative of election manipulation and fraud?
Is the epicenter.
We have the blueprint for the deception.
And in a nutshell, what we said is that out of the 327,000 votes that came in through the November 2020 election, 200,000 of them have no pedigree.
They can't be mapped to an actual voter or a precinct.
You know, there are over 3200 counties in the country, and we were one of the targeted 32 counties.
In eight critical swing states for the systemic election fraud.
And you could talk, we could talk about things from the Zuckerbox that came through, the CTCL money.
You can talk about our district attorney who was bought and paid for by George Soros.
You could talk about the Marxists that sit in County Council, all of these important people that came in prior to the 2020 election.
And then you could go all the way back to 2016 and talk about the establishment GOP that put into place Act 7.
And gave us the fraudulent mail-in ballot system.
So in Delaware County, there's 428 precincts.
And out of 200, there were 220 of them that could not be reconciled.
Now the term reconcile, if you ever do your taxes, you have to make sure that everything matches up.
And in 2020, nothing matched up in Delaware County.
You know, we determined the election.
Delaware County determined the election.
In the 2020 election, and it went to, it supposedly went to Biden.
We have cases, our first case, which started in November, on November 4th, 2020, which started with an injunction.
That case has gone through the appellate process and is now all the way up in the Supreme Court of the United States, which was denied with no opinion.
And now it's up for reconsideration.
Our second case, which was denied in the Court of Common Pleas is now sitting in the appellate Very succinctly put.
it's in the Commonwealth Court in Pennsylvania.
And then we also have other cases for the 2022 election, which we can talk about at another time.
But the 2020 election never should have been certified in Delaware County.
It did determine the 2020 election.
And we know for a fact that Biden was not the winner.
Very succinctly put.
Craig, I'm going to let you take a shot, really pretty much at the same question.
Well, the premise of our case and the hypothesis is that they substitute counterfeit ballots for fake ballots in two primary ways.
The The first one is with mail-in ballots.
So in Delaware County, they substituted approximately 120,000 fake mail-in ballots for 70,000 real ones.
And to explain how that happened, during the election on November 3rd of 2020, No, we witnessed 120,000 mail-in ballots go through the counting system in a centralized counting system in a period of about a day.
We fought our way in.
It took us a couple of days.
We had suspected that they were fake because they wouldn't let us near them.
And we saw that there was a back room.
We filed a complaint and an injunction on November 4th.
Uh, to go back and fight our way into that room, fought our way back there.
And what we saw was 70,000 unopened mail-in ballots.
Those are the real ballots.
120,000 fake ballots were put through the machines.
This was repeated in centralized counting centers throughout the country, uh, in the eight critical swing states.
As Leon mentioned earlier, a lot of people didn't see fraud.
They said, well, there's no fraud.
We don't understand this.
They only needed to target 32 counties out of 3200.
And the names will ring a bell for everybody.
In Pennsylvania, that's Philadelphia, Delaware County, Chester County, Allegheny County.
Now three of those counties in the Philadelphia area, Allegheny County is Pittsburgh.
And you go to Arizona, you have Maricopa and Pima County, Michigan, Wayne County, Antrim County, Georgia, DeKalb County, Fulton County.
These counties should all ring a bell because they were the hotbeds of the litigation that came out of the election and they were hotbeds of the centralized voting centers.
So from a mail-in ballot perspective, they took fake mail-in ballots that were produced here in the United States and they put them through the machines and that's what people witnessed on TV and they saw the theater of that.
The real ballots were in fact not put through.
Now, from an electronic perspective, there was electronic manipulation of the vote as well.
And it's done differently depending on the machines.
They have Dominion machines, which I think people are most familiar with.
And then you have ES&S, which is people are less familiar with.
And in our county, they use machines produced by Hart InterCivic.
And the Hart InterCivic, in every election machine, when people vote during the day, their vote is recorded on a little USB stick.
And we call it a V-drive.
Looks similar to this.
One second, I got one here.
I had one here.
One second.
So when people ask what they look like, they're little USB sticks, V-drives.
So they have these, these V-drives.
I don't know if you can see it.
They're in every machine.
And what they did is after the election,
was run two or three days we witnessed a voting machine warehouse supervisor and other officials inserting these USB drives that were supposedly supposed to be inserted on election eve two and three days after the election and those are what flipped the vote so those v drives and what Leah mentioned earlier was there's no pedigree we don't know where those v drives came from and they can't prove where they came from the mail-in ballots they similarly can't prove
So in a hypothesis perspective, and what our hypothesis and what we can prove factually, and it's undisputed, is that they substituted fake ballots for real ballots, both mail-in and electronically.
I hope that that makes it as clear as I can in a short time period.
That was very well expressed.
I think we get the gist of it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't mail-in ballots, based on my reading of the Pennsylvania State Constitution, entirely unconstitutional?
Leah?
77 was determined in the Commonwealth Court as unconstitutional.
So, according to our Pennsylvania State Constitution, we, as in the citizenry, the sovereign, We're supposed to be given the constitutional right to vote on a referendum in order to change our constitution to allow the mail-in ballot system, which they gave to us, regardless that it was unconstitutional.
And that was done by Republicans, by the way.
Yeah, I was aware of that.
That's the answer I was trying to elicit.
So, Leah, you're a Republican County Committeewoman for your township and for the county.
What happened when you reported what you had learned to party officials?
So we did what is called exhausting our administrative remedies.
And what I first did was I went to my township committee in November and I asked for the county chairman, Tom McGarrigle, who is corrupt, to request an audit, which you can do as a county GOP chairman.
And he said absolutely not, so he declined.
So then I went above them, and then we went to the Pennsylvania Senate, which was the hearing with Mayor Giuliani.
God bless that man.
And we went in front of the Senate.
These are all the people that actually voted in Act 77.
I guess they thought that they weren't going to get actual evidence in front of, you know, in front of millions of people.
Greg and I stepped up, went to the hearing, and presented our evidence.
And then, you know, we made our declarations.
We went to the U.S.
Attorney's Office, Bill McSwain, which Greg personally knew and personally talked to on the phone right after the election to come in and do a forensic investigation of the machines.
He was told and admitted it in a letter in June of 21 to President Trump when he was running for governor for Pennsylvania.
He admitted that he was told by Bill Barr to do nothing.
And then Bill Barr went on to say that everything that we said was was absolute BS.
So he told Bill McSwain to stand down and also told Bill McSwain to hand over everything to then Attorney General Josh Shapiro, who is a criminal, okay, who was not only a Biden elector, but it was a benefactor of the fraud
We went to the district attorney's office, which was Jack Stolzheimer, who's bought and paid for by George Soros, who's also best of friends, and his political progressive buffer, which was the voting machine warehouse supervisor, Tim Savage, who helped to commit all of this, all of these atrocities.
He says he does an investigation, won't show it to the public, never interviews me and Greg, It does absolutely nothing and says that our evidence is fabricated.
Other than going directly to, I mean, we've gone to everyone.
Everyone.
We are begging people to come in and investigate.
Then we go to the courts, and they won't allow facts to be in front of a trier of facts, so it can be, then it can become evidence.
So we've written certified letters, we've filed writ of Vandemus, we have done everything we possibly could think of and exhausted our administrative remedies.
So this is where we are right now, and we're not done.
You know, our next step is to move on to Congress.
Greg, how does Dominion play into this entire scenario and the allegations regarding cheating?
And I know that you are the subject of a couple of lawsuits.
Believe me, I know how that is.
And I know that you are very articulate on this because we spoke about it days ago.
How does Dominion fit in here?
Well, I think Dominion Detracted from a lot of the lawsuits in the country.
And Dominion, you know, they were targeted early on.
Leah and I were called to D.C.
to assist some of the people working on the, you know, looking at the election fraud, which was, you know, Phil Klein, Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell.
Leah and I were in the thick of that down in D.C.
immediately after the election.
So we were very familiar with and we were among the early individuals that the Dominion Theories came into play, which was that they were changing votes via networks and so forth.
So what we looked at and we said, look, we've already got we've got evidence here.
We've got physical evidence of mail-in ballot fraud, the USB sticks, electronic manipulation.
I said, this is going to take a long time to prove if you try to do this with the Dominion.
The biggest thing where Dominion comes into play is, I think people have conflated the election fraud and they've targeted, they say, well, Dominion, you did it.
And that's where everyone got into trouble.
Dominion, Harding to Civic and ES&S, as we described earlier, they work with the Election Assistance Commission, the EAC, which is a national, which is a federal agency.
They work with the manufacturers, they work with the FBI, NSA, government agencies, and they create election procedures that have to be followed to secure the vote.
And if those election procedures are properly followed, then the election should be fairly secure.
So Dominion and Hardin to Civic and ES&S, they don't really have any control as the manufacturers over whether people follow the procedures.
What Lee and I, our premise has been from the beginning is that this election fraud is being perpetrated by a relatively small group of people at both local and coordinated at state and national levels.
And the way they do it is they subvert procedures.
So the Dominion procedures, they have procedures for Internet security.
They have procedures for collecting and counting the vote.
They have procedures called logic and accuracy testing.
Which validate the software that's installed.
All software has to have what's called a hash code.
A hash code.
Basically, if that's recorded during testing before the elections, they can compare that code to the code published by the manufacturers and say, is this real code or not?
In Delaware County and the other counties, they never did that.
So the fact of the matter is, is.
They could and did use fake code or they used software that was not created by Dominion or hardened to civic.
They did that to electronically manipulate the vote.
And what they did is they conflated.
They sent people down a rabbit holes and they said, oh, it was Dominion.
It was this guy.
It was that guy.
When in fact, it was the procedures that weren't followed that created the surface area for fraud.
One of the reasons you haven't heard about Leah and myself, and most people probably listening to this podcast have not heard of us, is our evidence is undisputed.
We wrote it in the book.
We filed it in our cases.
It's sitting here before the Supreme Court.
I know the pictures, I got a background blurring things.
But this is our Supreme Court case, docket number 22503.
This right here is our rehearing that was just submitted and will be heard within the next few weeks at conference.
This contains all of the evidence, all of our facts, and they remain undisputed.
We know how they do it.
We know exactly how they do it.
We know who did it.
And we know the impact that they had on the elections.
They can't allow that when I say that they, the people that have manipulated the election, who are manipulating our country, they can't allow people to know about that.
And that's why we were anxious to be with you, you know, come on the show.
Well, I am, as I have said, you know, look, I have a sentimental attachment to the Republican Party, to the party of Lincoln, the party of Goldwater, the party of Ronald Reagan, in my case, personally, the party of Richard Nixon, the party of Donald Trump and his parents.
Yet I have sadly concluded that both major parties are dominated by a small clique of elites who really have no interest in political principles or constitutional precepts.
Their interest is in power and money and control.
And the Uniparty seems to be in the driver's seat here.
Leah, you're a Republican committee woman, but do you agree with that analysis?
And I said it in the Gettysburg hearing, this is nothing to do with party, it has to do with my country.
And I have to be able to leave behind a country for my child.
Um, you know, I, it's sad.
And, you know, in the beginning, Greg and I believed that, you know, everyone was going to come in and do the right thing and including, you know, the people, the people from the Republican Party.
I mean, I, I'm a Republican.
I represent, you know, this party for, for my precinct.
And I got to tell you, I've been screamed at.
I've been, Oh my God, brass, I get hate mail.
You know how it goes.
Um, and a lot of it comes from leadership within the GOP.
And that's because, No, I'm, we're pointing out the corruption.
I don't care where it comes from.
Okay, because it all leads to where we are now in this country.
And the biggest thing, the biggest issue I have, and why I love, listen, I love Donald Trump, because he stepped in and didn't care.
You know, he called it how it was, whether it was Republicans or Democrats.
Because at the end of the day, the reason why we are here, and I will say that, Is because people inside the GOP who have sat back, timeless, timelessly, and have done nothing.
They have enabled Marxists and Communists to come into our government in every aspect, on every level.
And I blame them!
And I, as a committee woman, okay, I require more.
And I am going to raise the bar for the people that are in leadership.
And if they don't want to do that, I'm going to make their life living hell as long as I'm a committee woman and as long as I'm a citizen of this country, because they need to do better.
Well, I totally agree with your analysis.
You know, Donald Trump's nomination in 2016 was the hostile takeover of the Republican Party.
The Republican Party of Ronald Reagan no longer exists.
It was hijacked by the Country Club Republicans, by the Bush Republicans, by the establishment Republicans.
Which president was it who told us we needed to move to a new world order?
Was that Jimmy Carter?
Bill Clinton?
No.
It was George H.W.
Bush.
For those of you who haven't read my book, The Bush Crime Family, I strongly recommend it to you.
You can get it at stonezone.com in the shop.
It will curl your hair.
So, sadly, I agree with you.
They never saw Donald Trump coming.
He was the right man at the right time with the right message.
He upended the leadership of the Republican Party, took on and beat 16 far more experienced political figures for the nomination.
And now what we see is almost comical.
The media would tell us that Trump is a, he's a spent force.
He's a laughingstock.
He has no credibility.
He's damaged.
He can't possibly win again.
And then in the next breath, they try every legal maneuver in the book to make sure that they don't face him again at the polls.
Why?
Because they fear him.
Because they fear his appeal to the average American.
And also because on issue after issue after issue, Everything he predicted about the presidency of Joe Biden, the prospective presidency of Joe Biden, has turned out to be true.
Donald Trump got us energy independence and some of the lowest gas prices in our history.
What's the cost of a gallon of gas in Pennsylvania today, Greg?
Almost four bucks, about $3.75.
Unbelievable.
And it was up to six and seven dollars.
It was ridiculous.
At the end of Trump's presidency, it was In the low twos, I think it was $2.39 a gallon, anywhere from $1.89 to $2.39 a gallon when he left office and it's been between $3.75 to $6 cents.
Food shortages, some of the most epic corruption, pardon me, inflation in the history of our country.
When they asked Biden about inflation, he continually says, yeah, but look what I inherited.
What you inherited?
You inherited some of the lowest inflation rates in recent decades.
I mean, it's almost comical.
As you know, because we talked about it, I'm not a highly technical person.
I'm a political strategist.
I know how to read a poll.
I probably know how to read survey research better than, oh, I don't know, just about anybody in the country.
But I will show you, I will throw you a little bit of a curveball here.
Greg, are we about to have a banking system meltdown?
Well, it's already happening.
As of this morning, when the trading bell opened, I think they forbid 30 banks from participating.
We've seen the failure of the Silicon Valley Bank.
Now, Silicon Valley Bank, SVB, is the 16th largest bank in the United States, and that makes it one of the biggest banks in the world.
97.5% of the deposits at SVB are not insured, and the banks are scrambling.
So we're not only seeing a meltdown within the crypto market with FXT and with the subsequent failures of different crypto, but we're also seeing the meltdown of banks.
If you look at this, the misanthropes that are causing this, they're telegraphing what they're doing.
They're telling us that the economy is going to be melted down and they're the ones doing it within the next 30 to 60 days.
It's happening a lot faster and it's accelerating.
They're melting the banks down right now.
They're crashing the stock market right now.
They're taking us to war right now.
They're working on masking us again right now.
All of these things are part of an endgame that, and not the end of times from a biblical perspective, but it's an endgame
To fundamentally transform the United States, and I think you've heard that over and over again for well over a decade and a half now, that these miscontents or these misanthropes, these haters of mankind want to fundamentally transform the United States and the world and the globalists, which ties into what you mentioned earlier with George W. Bush.
So I guess here is the question, because obviously you paint a very draconian picture, certainly a downbeat interview in terms of the inherent corruption and unfairness of the system.
We were raised to believe that the judicial branch of the government was non-political, that it was fair.
That it was based on equal justice, that the purpose of the courts were to get to and underline the truth.
But as you and I agreed this weekend, neither one of us has much confidence in the judicial system.
An opening shut case.
You've documented everything you've said here today, yet particularly authorities in the states of Pennsylvania who had a legal requirement to conduct an investigation, take action, have done nothing whatsoever.
Greg, what's the solution?
Is there a solution?
Other than prayer?
There is a solution.
I think one of the reasons you and I hit it off when we met, and also you mentioned President Trump, the magic of President Trump and the experience that you brought into elections, and what bonds Leah and myself, is that we're in the voting business.
We're in the citizenry business.
We're in the Republic business.
We want, you know, you can convert, you can change the country from the soapbox, the ballot box, the jury box, and the powder box.
And what we've been involved in is hearts and minds, voters, the misanthropes.
And we don't like to use Democrats.
We don't point at Democrats because I think 80% of the people in this country agree on 90% of things.
And I think if anyone's ever heard the ant analogy where if you put 200 red ants in a jar and 200 black ants in a jar, they'll peacefully co-mingle and do whatever it is that they're doing.
But if you shake the jar, they'll attack each other and kill each other.
And what you got to look at is you got to look at who's shaking the jar.
And what we've gone to is we've identified these misanthropes.
Misanthropic comes from Greek, haters of humankind.
And I think as soon as we start to learn that the people who are going to elect President Trump again in 2024 are Democrats and Republicans.
Donald Trump will take most of the Republican vote, but to win the country and win the election, we have to communicate and talk to Democrats.
And as long as we're fighting with each other and these misanthropes are fighting with each other, have us fighting with each other, they know that that's not going to happen.
That polarization is not going to happen.
So the way out of this is to identify those people, identify the legislation and identify what they did.
To get us to this point and fix that we can fix this in our Congress.
We can fix it in our legislatures.
We can fix this even in our courts.
There are good honest people out there working for the public.
Nobody joins the FBI and nobody joins the Secret Service.
Nobody joins government and goes into the military to be a bad guy.
They all go in or bad woman.
They go in.
To serve the public.
If we can restore that public trust and bring these people... I'm sorry, my number's going off here.
If we can restore that public trust... I don't know, can you still hear me?
I'm sorry.
Yeah, we're good.
Okay.
If we can restore that public trust and allow our public servants to report crimes and not get them pushed down.
If we can report these misanthropes and the illegal actions that they do and hold them accountable, then we can win.
So there is a road home.
Number one, identify the misanthropes.
We can do that.
Too often we call them communists, Marxists, neocons, conservatives, leftists, progressives.
And these are just red and black ants inside of a jar that, you know, that these misanthropes are shaking we identify the misanthropes you've already identified them in your book about bush and then we go after the legislation that gave them the power to do this and we're going to find our way home and that's just the starting point uh that's that's uh that's the close on that question let's talk for a moment about social media
i really believe uh that without the advent of the internet and the explosive power of social media in 2016 donald trump could never have been elected it's
If you look at the media pattern in 2016, the mass media, the legacy media, went out of their way to build up Donald Trump in the nomination process because they incorrectly believed that he would be the easiest candidate for Hillary Clinton to beat.
After all, Donald Trump had no political experience, had Never run a presidential campaign.
He was profane.
He wasn't scripted.
He wasn't focus-grouped.
He wasn't operating on the basis of polling.
He wasn't relying on multi-million dollars worth of paid television and cable advertising.
He obviously would have been easily beaten as the nominee.
Then they found, unfortunately, That they had helped nominate exactly the right guy.
In other words, the one candidate who actually could be Hillary Clinton.
And for all the reasons that they thought that he could not.
Because he was interesting.
He was provocative.
He was bold.
He was entertaining.
And I really believe he was the right man at the right time with the right message.
And then compounding their error with a free and unfettered internet, Donald Trump had a platform, a bully pulpit, with which to punch back at the mainstream and legacy media that built him up in the nomination process and then sought to tear him down in the general election process.
That is why they have sought so hard to put the toothpaste back into the tube.
So, I know that you have developed your own social media platform, Patriot.Online, but before we talk about that, tell me what you think about what's going on at Twitter right now.
Well, I'll take this one.
It's hard to say with Elon Musk, but we believe that Twitter and Facebook, there was collusion at a minimum with the government.
From a censorship perspective, we believe they're throttling the news.
The majority of people in our country now get their news from social media, from Facebook, from Twitter.
And these misanthropes we talked about have been controlling that message and censoring the truth, quite frankly, and substituting their own version of the truth.
And they've been working on hearts and minds.
So I think Twitter Right now is obviously in its, I think it's death throes from the perspective of their ability to censor.
I still don't know, quite frankly, what Elon Musk, what his game is.
I honestly don't.
I think that he's done pretty well.
There's been an exodus of, I think, the most toxic people from Twitter.
And there's some restoration of the truth.
But to this day, we can still see censorship happening.
And certain things that are selective.
And Elon Musk should have been able to fix that by now, I would think.
So right now, I think Twitter and Facebook are still dubious in terms of whether people are getting the truth or not.
And that's one of the reasons we created www.patriot.online.
Lee and I worked two years ago.
Two and a half years ago, we laid out a strategy.
We knew we would pretty much be on our own.
And among that strategy was we knew we would have to publish a book eventually.
We knew we would have to litigate.
And we knew in order to get our message out, we'd have to create our own social media platform.
So www.patriot.online is that platform.
And we talk about a wide variety of topics.
Primarily conservatives are there.
But we talk about the vaccine.
We talk about the elections.
We talk about COVID.
We talk about the war in Ukraine.
It's a meeting spot, or think about it as the Sons of Liberty before the revolution.
They would sit and they would meet and they would talk in town halls, and we had to do that.
So we had to supplant and provide an alternative to Twitter.
And I think more and more people, as the economy melts down, as the war spins up, as they go to mask us, people are going to be looking for where they can find the truth.
And they're not going to find it, quite frankly, on Twitter.
They're going to have to go to alternative platforms like Patriot.online, Rumble, Lindell, Frank Speech, True Social.
They're going to have to go to places that tell the truth.
I share your surprise about Elon Musk, but I am eternally grateful to him.
I was banned in 2017.
I was one of the earliest people in the country banned.
They never really explained which part of their community standards I violated, but I think I hurt Jay Tapper's feelings in a tweet.
And I was banned because I guess I'm a truth teller.
And I was very surprised when I went online and simply Applied to be reinstated, which I honestly thought was hopeless.
I really didn't think it would happen.
And boom, as of this weekend, I have 400,000 followers on Twitter, and I'm working my way to a half million.
I was also glad to see that my good friend, General Michael Flynn, who's one of the greatest patriots that I've ever met, and a man who I'm convinced As his greatest public service yet lies ahead of him, has now topped out at over a million followers on Twitter.
And I found this invaluable.
I have no evidence that since I've been reinstated that I'm being shadow banned or throttled.
I'm very grateful to Elon Musk.
Also have to give him credit for the fact that he has used or utilized honest journalists like Mr. Schellenberg, like Matt Taibbi and others, to expose, based on the website's own records, an egregious overreach by government to censor free speech in violation of the First Amendment. an egregious overreach by government to censor free speech in
So I'm giving Elon Musk credit and the benefit of the doubt, because by me, he's been pretty amazing.
And whether it is COVID-19, where he appears to be a truth teller, or a number of other issues, he is really kind of defying the predictions.
So my hat is off to him.
As far as Truth Social is concerned, I love it.
But I feel like I'm speaking to the choir.
In other words, I feel like it's great to talk to each other.
And that is going to be one of the necessary elements for a political comeback.
But I don't feel that the platform reaches beyond our base.
I think they do a great job.
I do wish they had an edit function because I'm a terrible speller, but beyond that, I look forward to taking a look at www.patriot.online.
I urge others to do so.
I'm certainly going to do so.
Leah, what has to happen for us to save this country?
We have to start getting comfortable with the uncomfortable truth.
And it happens, it even happens on, you know, if you want to say left and right, it happens on both sides.
We have to move back to understanding, first of all, the Constitution.
You have to understand the laws.
You have to understand your rights.
Most importantly, and Greg and I have learned a whole lot just by simply reading, educating ourselves.
But the biggest thing is that we have to be brutally honest.
You know, and that's where I am.
I'm a ball of fire 100% of the time.
And people have to start getting comfortable with the uncomfortable truth.
And I can't say that enough.
People are still having a hard time when I speak and when Greg speaks, you know, talking about these very honest facts and the things that, you know, honestly, people don't want to hear.
So we have to start with those few things.
And we also need to make sure that we are donating to the right people.
And when I say that, you know, your local candidates.
We have to vet these candidates tremendously.
There's a group called the Young Americans for Liberty, and they do a wonderful job at not only vetting their candidates, But they also follow through afterwards when these people are in office, okay?
And they make sure that they do their job, and if not, they're going to raise hell with them.
So we have to do our due diligence as citizens to be the checks and balance system for the people that are supposed to be representing us in government.
We have to support alternative news.
We have to, uh, we have to start talking about, um, you know, coming together as we the people versus Democrat versus Republican, you know, left versus right.
Um, we also, the biggest thing, Roger, if I can ask you, please, please tell people stop embracing the word democracy.
I hear it over and over and over again, and I'm even hearing it from so-called conservatives.
We are not a democracy.
We are a constitutional republic.
And we need to recognize that and say it.
We also have to create parallel economies.
We have to create, you know, parallel social media platforms.
We have to start creating things that are completely separate from the system that has been overrun by, you know, these neocons.
And then the last thing we have to do is we have to overload the court system.
And we can do that by filing pro se.
And I got to tell people, and Roger, I'm sure you could attest to dealing with attorneys.
Greg and I have dealt with plenty of attorneys that have turned out to be self-serving, horrible people.
And Greg and I have been able to represent ourselves in a court of law.
And I'm telling you, the average citizen can do exactly what Greg and I did.
And that's, I think, honestly, that's the road home.
I couldn't agree with you more on that last point.
As you know, I was subjected to the Mueller witch hunt and put through a Soviet-style show trial in which the government claimed that I lied under oath about Russian collusion, which they now admit never actually happened.
So it's not even possible to lie about things that didn't happen.
I had to go out, having lost my home, my car, my savings, most of our insurance, being gagged, my ability to make a living, I had to go out and raise almost four million dollars, mostly in small donations, to pay my lawyers.
My lawyers elected to put up no defense whatsoever.
I could have disproved the charges against me had I represented myself.
I prepared over 800 pieces of evidence either Videos, emails, text messages, or audio recordings.
My lawyers declined to even submit that evidence.
Would I have been convicted anyway?
Yes, because I was subjected to a rigged trial with a openly hostile judge, a corrupted jury forewoman, and a carefully selected but entirely stacked jury.
But at least I would have gone down fighting.
Now I have to write a book, which You would think would be a cathartic exercise, but it's really nothing but painful.
I will finish it because people need to know what we learned on November 3rd 2020 when only by court order.
Robert Mueller was forced to release his last remaining long redacted and hidden sections of his final report in which even he could not sugarcoat that in the case of Roger Stone he found no factual evidence of Russian collusion, WikiLeaks collaboration, or involvement in the phishing and publication of John Podesta's emails.
So what is it I lied about again?
I did make some misstatements in my voluntary testimony to the House Intelligence Committee, but every single one of them was immaterial, meaning they hid no underlying crime.
It is a broken system.
And now I find it laughable that Philip Bump of the Washington Post, literally a piece of human excrement, the lowest life form known to man, the single most dishonest, congenital liar, conman posing as a journalist, actually questions the integrity of Tucker Carlson and his use of actual videos Bump tries to tell us that we're not seeing what our own eyes see.
So who are you going to believe?
Your own eyes?
Or this fraudster Philip Bump of the Washington Post?
It really does boggle the mind.
Folks, this great book, The Parallel Election, A Blueprint for Deception, Evidence of Massive Election Fraud in Delaware County, Pennsylvania.
There you see a picture of it.
You can get that at HTTPS.
ParallelElection.com or ParallelElection.com.
There we have it on the screen.
Election.com.
I admit that I haven't finished it, but I have speed read it.
I'm going to devour every single word.
This is an incredible book because it backs up everything you have heard today.
Greg, Leah, you have an open invitation to come back to the Stone Zone at any time as things progress.
You also have an open invitation to visit me in Florida, where I guarantee you the weather is much better than where you are today.
And I look forward to working with both of you to, well, make America great again.
Thank you so much for joining us on the Stone Zone.
Thank you, Roger.
God bless you both.
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