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March 29, 2023 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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IS RON DESANTIS BREAKING THE LAW? Laura Loomer Breaks it Down on the StoneZONE with Roger Stone
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And now Lindell TV brings you The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
And welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and you are about to enter the Stone Zone.
Many months ago, here on the Stone Zone, also on social media, including Truth Social, Twitter, Gab, Getter, Telegram, and elsewhere, I suggested that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis was planning to challenge former President Donald Trump for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.
I was roundly attacked for dividing our movement, but I had to remind people of a little bit of history.
For those of you who don't know, live in Florida and perhaps don't know the history, Ron DeSantis was a congressman from the Daytona area.
He was running for governor, but his campaign was running in single digits.
He was having substantial fundraising problems.
This was in 2018.
The party favorite, Adam Putnam, the former congressman and then state agriculture commissioner, was endorsed by every one of Florida's 67 Republican county chairmen, endorsed by every
Sitting Republican member of either the State or House or State Senate, including the Senate President and the House Speaker, was endorsed by every member of the Republican member of the Congressional delegation, with the exception of Congressman Matt Gaetz.
And then, as I have reported, Congressman Gaetz, I think, played a crucial role In convincing President Donald Trump to endorse Ron DeSantis in the race for governor.
Overnight, the race for governor changed.
As Adam Putnam himself has said, it was if a nuclear bomb had gone off and Governor Ron DeSantis's, then Congressman Ron DeSantis's, campaign took off.
Here's a TV commercial that Ron DeSantis ran at the time.
Everyone knows my husband Ron DeSantis is endorsed by President Trump, but he's also an amazing dad.
Ron loves playing with the kids.
Build the wall!
He reads stories.
Then Mr. Trump said, you're fired.
I love that part.
He's teaching Madison to talk.
Make America great again.
People say Ron's all Trump, but he is so much more.
Big League.
So good.
I just thought you should know.
Ron DeSantis for Governor.
I think that TV commercial, which was widely seen, really underlines the crucial role that Donald Trump played in the rise of Ron DeSantis.
Now, there is no question whatsoever that Ron DeSantis is going to challenge Donald Trump for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.
The question today, however, revolves around the fact that Florida has a very specific resign-to-run law that requires anyone who holds state office to resign before becoming a candidate for federal office.
According to a report by Fox Television on March 10th, the headline of which is, DeSantis privately acknowledges he will run for president in 2024, and combining that story with the thinly veiled book tour, which is really the roll out of his presidential campaign,
Why would one visit New Hampshire, Iowa, Nevada, states that just happen to have early primaries?
There's a legitimate legal question about whether Governor DeSantis is today, at least in spirit, if not in actuality, in violation of the state law.
Let me point out that in the past election cycles, for example, Byron Donalds, a very fine conservative Republican congressman from the Naples area, had to resign his seat in the state legislature to pursue a campaign for governor, as did State Representative Dane Eagle, another fine conservative who contended in that same race.
So the law has been applied in the past.
Today, NBC broke a story about an impending complaint prepared by one of the super PACs supporting Donald Trump that alleges that Governor DeSantis is in violation of current state law.
I noticed on Twitter that when I raised this question, I was roundly criticized by someone named Wilk Chamberlain.
I liked him much better when he played basketball.
Oh, sorry, it's not the same guy.
I apologize.
Anyway, here to discuss this is a woman who is never at a loss for words and who is one of President Trump's fiercest supporters.
Laura Loomer joins us now.
Thanks for having me, Roger.
It's great to see you again.
Thank you so much for being here.
You have been out in the forefront of the President's supporters criticizing Governor DeSantis on a whole host of issues, but you've had time to analyze this report.
Tell us what you think.
Well, Roger, you and I, of course, have been ahead of the curve on this issue for it seems like nearly two years now.
You and I have been calling this out and referring to this Uh, for what it really is.
It's a shadow presidential campaign, and I reviewed the 15-page draft complaint, because from my understanding, um, it's a draft and hasn't necessarily been filed yet.
I have it here.
And, uh, the complaint pretty much covers everything that I've been reporting on over the last few months, and that's the fact that, one, Ron DeSantis is in direct violation of not only
Florida election laws by violating the Florida statute regarding resign to run that would require him to resign his seat as governor within 10 days of filing to run for president and of course he has not yet filed and that's the whole point right because he's waiting he's waiting for the Florida Republican legislature to change resign to run he even indicated that in a recent interview with Sean Hannity when Sean Hannity asked him on March 6th are you running for president and he said
Kind of danced around the question and had that kind of weird, nervous laugh that he has, and said that he had to wait, right, for the Florida legislative session, and then he would be able to make more of an announcement.
And then, of course, it gets into the fact that there seems to be blatant and direct coordination with various PACs.
You have the Ready for Ron pack, where a political consultant at Rollins is helping oversee that.
And then you have Ken Cuccinelli's, his pack that he recently created for Ron DeSantis.
That's called the Never Back Down pack.
And a lot of these different groups are pushing, right, for open endorsements and support for Ron DeSantis.
And it's kind of weird, right?
Like, why are sitting members of Congress and high-profile political individuals in the Republican Party issuing endorsements for Ron DeSantis to run for president if he hasn't filed?
And that's precisely, as I reported months ago, because the governor cannot file until resign to run is changed by the Florida Republican legislature, or else he will have to resign his seat as governor of Florida.
Well, I mean, he could resign and then announce his candidacy.
I think that that perhaps is the larger point here in which all of this is really symbolism.
In other words, if this complaint is indeed filed with the State Ethics Commission, Where Governor DeSantis appoints a majority of the commission members, I would suggest to you that they will sit on it until it is moot in one of two ways.
One, the state legislature repeals the resign to run law, or two, the governor simply becomes a full-fledged candidate.
I cannot see any circumstance under which they don't repeal the law, because I can't see any circumstance under which the governor would give up the governorship, which is his fulcrum for raising money for a presidential bid, in order to be a candidate.
So I would predict to you right now that the legislature, in its final days, in the upcoming special session, repeal of the law entirely, making the issue moot.
Yeah, of course, there have been initiatives by the Senate president and, of course, high profile Republicans in the Republican legislature of Florida who have indicated, right, and they did this months ago prior to the first day of session, which took place on March 7th, saying that they intended and they did this months ago prior to the first day of session, which took place on And then you have liars who are in Team DeSantis who are saying, oh, the governor doesn't need the law to change if he wants to run.
He can just run.
Well, if that's the case, then why is the Senate president and, you know, Republicans, leading Republicans in the Florida Republican-controlled legislature saying that they want to change resigned to run?
Obviously, something needs to be changed in order for Ron DeSantis to not be in direct violation of resigned to run, which he already is in violation of because he clearly has a functioning campaign apparatus that is beyond the scope of what the FEC calls the testing the waters versus campaign requirements.
And I actually printed that out ahead of our show today, Roger.
And the testing the waters, according to the FEC, it's An individual may carry out a variety of activities to test the waters.
Examples of permissible testing the waters include conducting polling, traveling, and making telephone calls to determine whether the individual should become a candidate.
And, of course, that is in stark contrast from what it means to campaign.
The other issue that was raised in this complaint that I thought was perhaps more troubling is whether the governor has derived an inappropriate and illegal financial benefit from the $2 million advance paid to him by HarperCollins Yeah, of course, and that's exactly what he's doing.
is owned by the News Corporation.
The News Corporation also owns Fox Television, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post, among other properties.
Seems to me that that may be the more troubling aspect of this complaint.
Yeah, of course.
And that's exactly what he's doing.
Sorry, my earpiece fell out here.
And, you know, you see Governor Ron DeSantis running this shadow presidential campaign by this book tour in which he's traveling on a national book tour.
Two key primary states, as you pointed out, states like Nevada and New Hampshire and And he is trying to use this book tour as a mechanism, right, to get national exposure for a presidential campaign.
In the gubernatorial race, I noted that that his campaign for reelection here in Florida did a notable amount of digital advertising in New Hampshire, in Iowa, in South Carolina, in Georgia, in Nevada.
Now, theoretically, that is fundraising advertising that isn't, I think, is permissible under Florida state law.
But I think it is unmistakable what the impact or the desired impact of that digital advertising was.
Let me stress my own view, which is, of course, it is a free country.
Ron DeSantis is welcome to run for president.
He has an absolute right to do so.
I don't think he should bend the rules here to do so, as I believe he has done.
But of course, if one says it on Twitter, one will immediately come under ferocious attack.
As if any of that would bother either you or me.
The real question, of course, is the other thing I found really interesting in this same time frame is that Tucker Carlson, 30-year friend of mine, friend of yours, put out essentially a questionnaire to every prospective or potential candidate for president regarding their position on the current war in Ukraine.
I really liked President Trump's position, but then when I read Governor DeSantis' position, it seemed identical to President Trump's position.
I was unaware of the fact that the governor is now an anti-interventionist, which was certainly not his position when he was in the House.
Yeah, it's funny because Nikki Haley, of course, who's also filed to run for president in 2024, issued a statement in which she called Governor Ron DeSantis out, saying that Ron DeSantis is indeed copying President Donald Trump.
And so it's kind of funny to see the other contenders in the race taking shots at Governor Ron DeSantis and calling him out for clearly trying to be just like Donald Trump.
Well, I think that the governor is going to get far more scrutiny of his record.
If you look at the top line, the headlines, they're all really, really good.
For example, Governor DeSantis appointed an Office of Election Integrity before the last election because... Yeah, but that was really not really the case.
I mean, let's be honest, Roger, okay?
You and I have worked extensively and very closely with the different Florida election integrity groups.
And that was a big farce.
He appointed a guy by the name of Peter Antonacci to oversee what he called the Election Crimes Unit.
And then Peter Antonacci just happened to die before the election and nobody was appointed.
And so, you know, Ron DeSantis talks a big talk.
He says that he's going to investigate fraud.
But there was no investigation when the Trump Villagers for Trump Club, the largest pro-Trump club in the entire country, sent a letter to Governor Ron DeSantis calling for an investigation of the blatant mail-in ballot fraud that took place in my election in Orange County in District 11 when I ran against anti-Trump Daniel Webster, who of course I now know is friends with Governor Ron DeSantis and who Governor Ron DeSantis endorsed in his bid for Speaker of the House when they were both serving in Congress together.
And so Ron DeSantis has been a very good He has a great PR team.
I would say that that's his greatest accomplishment ever in his entire political career, is his PR team.
And they have been able to do people and convince people into thinking, okay, deceiving people, that Governor Ron DeSantis walks the walk and talks the talk.
But no, Governor Ron DeSantis is a bloviator, okay, he's a showboater, and everything that he does is for the cameras.
We know that his wife, Jill DeSantis, who goes by Casey, has a career in broadcast journalism.
And she has reportedly been the brains behind all of his press statements and a lot of his media appearances and often coaches Governor Ron DeSantis in his speeches and his public appearances before he makes them.
And so clearly it's all very contrived.
It's all very manufactured.
And you see that in the way that Ron DeSantis gets very uncomfortable and he's not able to handle kind of in the moment.
I guess you could say in the moment things that go wrong, right?
Just like, my earpiece just fell out, right?
And I'm able to carry on an interview.
If Ron DeSantis has something that goes awry during Either an interview or a speech, he freaks out and becomes visibly agitated and very kind of awkward in his mannerisms.
This was perfectly displayed the other day in Iowa when he was on stage and somebody accidentally wheeled away his podium and it completely set him off to the point where he had a very awkward transition from greeting people and then going straight into his speech.
He wasn't able to just Adapt to the situation.
Sometimes things don't go right.
Sometimes your sound doesn't work.
Sometimes video doesn't work.
Sometimes the mic dies.
Sometimes there's protesters in the audience.
Or maybe sometimes your podium gets dragged away and he couldn't handle it.
He just couldn't handle it.
And that's a test to me how President Trump is going to absolutely destroy him when they're on the debate stage together.
And it's inevitable.
It's going to happen.
And Ron DeSantis' I agree with your assessment that the governor performs extraordinarily well in a controlled atmosphere in which he controls the microphone.
In the two debates with his opponent in 2018, I do think he came off second best.
I thought that he held his own in his debate.
I'm still trying to understand why he froze like a deer in the headlights when asked the most obvious question that you could possibly, that he had to have anticipated, which quite simply was whether he would pledge to serve all four years of the new term that he was seeking or whether he was going to run for president.
He never really did answer that question, even though it was put to him twice by Charlie Crist.
I agree that it remains to be seen whether he's up to the big league pitching and the kind of freewheeling atmosphere that a candidate for president is required to engage in.
I just have a hard time picturing him campaigning with the pig farmers in Iowa.
I just have a very hard time imagining.
Look, I mean, we already saw that when President Trump traveled recently to East Palestine, Ohio, okay, he was in the McDonald's, he was ordering Big Macs, he's very personable, he's talking about how he knows the menu greater than anybody else.
And so, you see that Ron DeSantis would never be able to do something like that, okay?
President Donald Trump shows up dressed for the occasion, and you contrast that with You know, Governor DeSantis's hurricane response footage and the awkward boots that he's wearing.
I mean, he's just very awkward whenever he has to do something that's random or not scripted or controlled, you know, in the privacy of his own studio, in the governor's mansion or in Tallahassee in his office, controlled by his press agents and his wife.
We also see this with the way that Donald Trump now has been on the campaign trail taking impromptu questions.
Recently, when he spoke in Iowa, there was like a 30-minute Q&A in which the president took unscripted questions from audience members.
Ron DeSantis would never do that.
I mean, this is a guy who recently had me and several other Trump supporters from Villagers for Trump kicked out of the book signing, and we weren't even inside.
We were in the parking lot at Books a Million.
And his staff called the cops on us simply because we were supporting President Trump.
How would Ron DeSantis handle an unscripted question that caught him off guard?
I mean, you are a pro, Roger, okay?
And this kind of reminds me of 2015 and 2016 when you and I and Alex Jones used to disrupt the Hillary Clinton events with the Bill Clinton is a rapist chants.
What's going to happen when Ron DeSantis has disruptors show up at his events and shout things in support of President Trump?
What's he going to do when he's confronted on the campaign trail by somebody with a selfie stick or a video and it goes viral?
How is he going to handle that?
I don't think that he can.
I think that he's unfit.
I think he's impersonable.
And he's clearly disingenuous and disloyal to President Trump.
I will say that there's no such thing as a Ron DeSantis base, okay?
Ron DeSantis' base was created from the Trump base.
So when I say Ron DeSantis' base, I'm talking about the Trump base.
Because we have to remember that Ron DeSantis almost lost in a landslide to Andrew Gillum.
It wasn't until President Trump came in and saved his lousy campaign, okay, when the media and Florida voters overwhelmingly wanted to vote for Andrew Gillum, who was dubbed Obama 2.0.
And then, of course, he only won his election by less than half a percentage point, 30,000 votes.
And then I had to participate in the recount to help, you know, save the election from being stolen.
But I say this because All the people who support Ron DeSantis supported President Trump first.
And so if he thinks that he's going to beat Donald Trump in a primary, he is sadly mistaken.
On a suicide mission.
Well, I do think it's important to recognize that the governor just spent upwards of $50 million on a re-election.
Therefore, here in Florida, I think it would be fair to say that his support is at the high-water mark.
But once the TV commercials, the radio commercials, once that stops, your support begins to dissipate.
So any measure of what a head-to-head contest in Florida looks like today, to a great extent, would be moot because the election is not today.
Well, it's well over a year from now.
I want to go back to that question of the Office of Election Crimes.
There's 15 positions there.
They all remain vacant.
Peter Antonucci was a good man, God rest his soul.
We featured a great interview here on The Stone Zone conducted by our friend Chris Nelson, a DeSantis supporter, but in which Antonucci himself admitted that the problems were lied in the actual voting lists.
Florida's voting lists are not Clean, and they are not accurate, and there is a history of people who don't exist, so-called phantom voters, voting, particularly through mail-in ballot.
Governor DeSantis, sadly, has a unique opportunity to do something about that, where the Republican legislature has done nothing, evidently because he doesn't feel that it directly challenges him.
And then there's the issue of Disney.
The governor made a great hay on this issue prior to the election.
He was upset because Disney opposed his efforts to restrict what school children can be taught in the schools when it came to race and gender and sex lies, a position on which I agree with him.
But he took control of the Disney Special Taxing District with great fanfare, declared a cultural war with them.
But a terrific piece that I saw in the Orlando Sentinel by a gentleman named Fogelberg, I believe it was, Showed that in fact, what the governor did was not end the special taxing district, but merely abrogate control of the special taxing district to himself.
And after taking a $1 million contribution from Disney for his inauguration, Disney now maintains their exemption from property and sales taxes, their ability to issue tax-free bonds, and fast-track permitting.
So, again, this is a perfect example of the governor kind of saying one thing, but really doing something else.
Have you examined the Disney issue?
Yeah, look, I've been calling Governor Ron DeSantis out for, you know, his double speak regarding Disney for a while now.
I recently ran for Congress in Florida's 11th district, and when it was redistricted, it included Disney.
And I always found it to be really bizarre that he made what was a deeply red Republican seat almost more blue by including portions of Orange County and taking out some of the more pro-Trump areas.
But now I see, right?
This is all part of his plan for his presidential race to consolidate power.
This is why Governor Ron DeSantis decided that he was going to personally appoint the board members to this Reedy Creek District.
And just like you said before, right, he made it sound like it was going to be completely dissolved, that they weren't going to have this district.
But it's just a way for Governor Ron DeSantis to Further consolidate more power and have his cake and eat it too.
I see that President Donald Trump also recently took to Truth Social to highlight the hypocrisy regarding Governor Ron DeSantis and his duplicitous remarks regarding Disney.
And I think this is what people need to understand about Ron.
He talks a big talk, but then when the cameras are off, he quietly does what You know, the globalists and the neocons would want him to do, right?
He says that he's going to war with Disney, but then when the cameras are off and people, you know, give him the press coverage that he wants, he quietly takes, what was it, almost a million dollars in donations, and then Disney was given front row seats and VIP access to his inauguration.
So, like I said, Governor Ron DeSantis is a showboater.
He did the same thing with the tech bill in Florida.
He said that it was going to be illegal.
He went on Tucker Carlson's show and said that it was illegal.
In the state of Florida for Big Tech to ban and censor candidates in Florida but did nothing when my campaign was the only campaign and the first in U.S.
history to be deplatformed on all social media.
He had 2020 and 2022 to address this and did not.
And I will remind people that when I testified in front of the Florida House Appropriations Committee, I was the only person to do so, and I did so encouraging the Florida House Appropriations Committee to amend this bill to include retroactive protection so that President Donald Trump would also be protected as a deplatformed candidate when running in 2024.
I did this in 2021, and now looking back, okay, and I spoke to you about this privately when I hired a lobbyist to do this in Tallahassee, you'll recall, Roger, I said, It's almost like he's intentionally creating bad legislation and not approving the amendments to hurt me and Donald Trump ahead of 2024.
And I know that you privately agreed with me.
We didn't necessarily say it publicly, but now that the gloves are off and everybody knows what Ron DeSantis is doing, it's pretty obvious that that's the reason why he created that bill and designed it to fail.
He didn't want to support President Donald Trump.
Nobody knew that Elon Musk would be purchasing Twitter and then giving Donald Trump his account back.
Ron DeSantis tried to create a faulty bill so that Donald Trump would not have access to his Twitter account in 2024.
The other area that I think is very interesting where Governor DeSantis seems to be trying to create a wedge issue is on the question of the safety and effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccinations.
The sad truth is that Governor DeSantis, just like President Trump, was a full-throated advocate for taking the vaccination.
That his claim that he ended the mask mandates in the public schools, if one reads the small print, at least in the three southern counties, he actually abrogates that decision to the counties.
So at a time in last year, when Governor DeSantis is in Las Vegas, and he actually says in his speech, schoolchildren in Florida are no longer required to wear masks.
In truth, because seven counties had thwarted the governor's executive order, 3.7 million school children were still being required to wear masks.
More recently, he has said that he would call on the Florida State Supreme Court to impanel a grand jury to investigate whether those who pushed the COVID-19 vaccinations misled the people of Florida.
And that's what's so ironic about this, Roger, right?
It's kind of funny in a sense because Governor Ron DeSantis wouldn't even survive his own grand jury.
This is a grand jury that the governor apparently put together to go after people who pushed out vaccine misinformation regarding the safety and effectiveness of vaccines.
Well, we have plenty of videos of Governor Ron DeSantis saying that he was proud to sign for FedEx for the delivery of the vaccines to Florida.
We have plenty of videos of Governor Ron DeSantis saying that if people have people in their businesses or clubs or bars, if it's Dance Party USA, that's what he called it, He was going to shut them down and have their business license taken away.
We have plenty examples of Governor Ron DeSantis lying to Floridians and telling them that the COVID vaccine is 100% effective and that you don't get COVID if you get the vaccine.
Okay, so maybe Governor Ron DeSantis, right, should be convicted himself because he is guilty of pushing out vaccine misinformation.
And, of course, when you confront him and his army of DeSimps, as I like to call them on these matters, they like to cower and pretend like Oh, Governor Ron DeSantis is such a leading advocate when it comes to speaking out against vaccine injuries.
No, he's not.
This is a guy who said that he was not going to allow for childhood COVID vaccinations in the state of Florida.
There was an article in Forbes magazine, people can look it up, and they said, oh, look at Governor Ron DeSantis, the only governor in the nation who actually has the courage to defy this when it comes to protecting our children.
And then quietly, what did he do days later when the cameras were off and he got the press that he wanted?
Right?
He signed for the childhood vaccines regarding COVID in Florida and allowed for them to be delivered to the state of Florida.
So he's a showboater.
He's a liar.
And regardless of any criticisms that people may have about President Donald Trump, at least President Trump is forthright in his positions and stands his ground and is not afraid to take people on directly when they challenge his positions.
Although I would like to see President Donald Trump speak out more about the vaccine.
Well, it is certainly true and indisputable that the governor signed a bill into law that gives full and complete legal immunity to doctors and hospitals who pushed Remdesivir, pushed the ventilators, pushed the vaccinations.
That law will expire in June.
So the real question is, will the governor re-up that law?
Will he I have seen in some places where the governor indicates that he's not going to renew the law.
I've seen in other places where he's indicated that he will.
Now, it could not be applied retroactively, but I think that will be a watershed moment.
I have seen in some places where the governor indicates that he's not going to renew the law.
I've seen in other places where he's indicated that he will.
I think that is going to be a very telling moment when it speaks to the question of his ability to utilize this particular issue.
I agree with you.
I would like to see President Trump go further than he went in Iowa.
But in Iowa, he did say he would cut off all federal funding for any public school district that either required masks or mandatory vaccination.
Not just any public school as well.
He went even further.
And this is the first I've seen anybody do.
He said K through college.
So kindergarten through 12th grade, obviously, that would be the public school system.
And then also he extended that to the university system as well.
So President Donald Trump, I know that he faces some criticism for this.
And there's a lot of misinformation and blatant lies about President Trump regarding his stance on the vaccine.
Obviously, right, we know that he carried out Operation Warp Speed.
However, President Trump has never been an advocate for vaccine mandates.
From the get-go, he encouraged people to protest governors who locked down.
He said that he only intended for 15 days to slow the spread.
And then also, he has been vocal about his opposition to vaccine mandates.
You are correct in saying that this is an issue, a wedge issue, that Governor Ron DeSantis and his staff are trying to use to try to blame President Trump somehow for COVID lockdowns or blame President Donald Trump for every single vaccine injury, and it's just simply not fair to do that, especially when we have the receipts that show that Governor DeSantis had always been an advocate of the COVID vaccine.
The other thing that really perplexes me is Governor DeSantis's appointment Of Palm Beach County Mayor David Kerner to head the State Department of Motor Vehicles.
A Vax Nazi, you can't really call it anything else.
You put together a COVID-19 vaccination compliance task force, which was a Gestapo-style, jackbooted, uniformed operation that harassed individual business owners, individual citizens, set up a snitch line.
So if you were upset against the McKilligutties across the street and they weren't wearing masks, you could Turn them in.
People lost their jobs.
businesses were destroyed.
But Mr. Kerner assured us publicly, we can pull these clips, that all of the actions of his task force were approved by Governor DeSantis.
In fact, Mr. Kerner and the governor put out a joint press release crowing about the fact that 46% of the senior citizens in Palm Beach County had successfully been vaccinated.
And then days before before the gubernatorial election, Mr. Kerner endorsed Donald Trump.
Pardon me, endorsed Ron DeSantis.
Pardon me, misspoke.
Which seems very odd.
Why would a liberal Democrat endorse a conservative Republican for governor?
And then days after the election, Mr. Kerner was appointed to one of the most prestigious and powerful positions in state government.
Certainly smells like- Well, I also want to remind people that Dave Kerner, right, as When he was overseeing part of the Palm Beach County Commission, okay, he advocated in support of giving illegal aliens driver's licenses.
And so people want to pretend like Governor Ron DeSantis is so tough on immigration, but Palm Beach County, Miami-Dade County, and even Broward County passed these resolutions within their county commissions.
Allowing for illegal aliens to get driver's licenses.
And so in the state of Florida, that's done through the DMV.
Because through the DMV, you can register to vote when you get a driver's license.
And I've examined all of the different documentation, and there is nothing on the DMV website, or when you register to vote at the DMV, that asks you whether or not you're a U.S.
citizen.
In fact, I have a copy of the state PowerPoint presentation that they give people as a training guide and a manual teaching them how to carry out these DMV style voter registrations.
And they actually say, Roger, not to ask any questions that would dissuade somebody from registering to votes.
So are you a legal U.S.
citizen?
Are you an illegal alien, right?
That sounds like a question that I guess would dissuade somebody if you were in fact an illegal alien who is trying to get a driver's license and illegally register to vote.
And so it should be very concerning to everybody that Governor DeSantis just appointed this individual, this mask Nazi COVID task force enforcer, Dave Kerner to oversee the Florida Department of Highway Motor Vehicles because that is who is going to be in charge of issuing out these driver's licenses to illegal aliens.
Something Governor Ron DeSantis doesn't really want people knowing about while he's pretending Right?
To be deporting illegals to Martha's Vineyard.
Oh yeah, because that's really going to help the immigration crisis in our country when they're being fast-tracked by Soros-tied attorneys generals and immigration lawyers who meet these illegals upon their arrival in blue cities and blue states.
So, the only thing Governor Ron DeSantis is doing is worsening the illegal immigration crisis in our country.
The other appointment that vexes me is the appointment of a man named Gregory Toney to the largest and most powerful sheriff's office in the state of Florida when the office of Sheriff of Broward County was vacated because Governor Ron DeSantis fired Sheriff Scott Israel, a Democrat, over his mishandling of the Parkland shootings.
A legitimate firing, in my opinion, after I learned all the facts.
He appointed a man named Gregory Toney, who is an African-American, was then a Republican.
It turns out, based on investigations by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and by the State Ethics Commission, that Mr. Toney never disclosed to the state of Florida in his applications for this appointment that Mr. Toney never disclosed to the state of Florida in his applications for this appointment that he had stood trial in Philadelphia He had been acquitted on both of those.
The Florida Bulldog, a left-wing website, has raised some legitimate questions about whether the acquittal in his murder trial was legitimate.
But putting that question aside, there's no question that Sheriff Tony broke the law when he did not tell the truth about his background.
Yet, perhaps it's because the Broward County Sheriff's Office employs Ballard & Associates, one of the most powerful lobbyists in the country, and antithetically, interestingly, one of the partners there is the chairman of Governor DeSantis' fundraising.
Mr. Stoney has not been replaced by the governor.
An argument could be made that Mr. Tony, who switched from being a Republican to a Democrat, was subsequently re-elected by the people of Broward County.
This is a sheriff's department with over 6,000 employees and a budget just under a billion dollars.
But that does not negate the fact that Ron DeSantis goes to Staten Island and talks about how he's tough on law and order and how he supports the men and women of law enforcement.
I ask a simple question, which is, why has he not fired Gregory Toney?
It's a great question.
It's a really great question.
And, you know, Gregory Toney is just one of his terrible appointments.
Another one of his awful appointments was Wendy Sartori Link, who, of course, is the supervisor of elections in Palm Beach County.
When we had the 2018 recount, of course, Roger, you were there and you saw this.
The improprieties carried out by Brenda Snipes, the supervisor of elections in Broward County, and then Susan Booker in Palm Beach County.
Of course, Governor Ron DeSantis had called for their removal, and then he replaced Susan Booker with a woman by the name of Wendy Sartori-Link.
Well, Wendy, right, had portrayed herself as a Republican, and now, right, after being appointed, she's a Democrat.
And so, why do I bring this up?
Because during the 2020 election, Wendy Sartori Link accepted 6.3 million dollars of Zuckerbucks from Mark Zuckerberg and of course that was more than double the amounts combined that Broward County and Miami-Dade County received and of course those counties are substantially larger than Palm Beach County.
I mention this because we know that Zuckerbucks were used all across the nation to disrupt the 2020 election between Joe Biden and President Donald Trump and ultimately helped facilitate the steal
of the 2020 election, and so when I confronted Wendy Sartori-Link about this, she denied it, and she said that they had returned the funds back to the origin after Florida passed a law banning Zuckerbucks, but this turned out to be completely false, and then she ran into an elevator and hid.
I mention this because Wendy Sartori-Link Overseas, the Palm Beach County Elections Office and President Donald Trump himself was at that time a voter and a resident residing at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, a resident of Palm Beach County, Florida.
And so I think it's rather odd that, you know, the largest amount of Zuckerbucks was given to the Supervisors of Elections Office in Palm Beach, where President Trump just happens to live, even though the Palm Beach County Supervisors Office didn't need it.
And this corrupt individual, of course, another one of Ron DeSantis' terrible appointments.
Laura, you have a very lively new sub stack.
We want to promote that here.
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Tell people where they can go to subscribe to your sub stack.
Yeah, thank you, Roger.
So people can go to lauraloomer.substack.com.
It is free to subscribe, but of course, a small monthly subscription fee of $7 per month or $70 per year helps ensure that I can keep providing hard-hitting reports that contain the information that I spoke about today on this interview with you.
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There you go.
Off topic for our advertised topic for today, but I know that you are a longtime friend of James O'Keefe.
You yourself are a former Project Veritas reporter.
What is your take on the goings-on at Project Veritas?
What is this really all about and how do you see it?
Yeah, so a lot of people may not realize this, but this directly has something to do with Governor Ron DeSantis.
The main ouster by the name of Matthew Tiermond, of course, which is sad because I used to be friends with Matt prior to him stabbing James O'Keefe in the back, has orchestrated this coup that resulted in James O'Keefe being pushed out of Project Veritas, and he has publicly, right, associated with Ron DeSantis and Christina Pusha And is now clearly using his influence to be a part of the DeSantis influencer campaign.
Many of the board members of Project Veritas are also DeSantis donors.
And from my understanding, there is a power struggle that went on regarding the use of Project Veritas and Project Veritas Action, which is more of the political arm of Project Veritas that goes undercover in campaigns.
And from what I'm told, there are some individuals on the board, who helped oust James O'Keefe that wanted to weaponize that against President Donald Trump.
And of course, James O'Keefe is not going to allow for that.
And so I think that they want to utilize Project Veritas action as a propaganda arm for Governor Ron DeSantis and his campaign.
So, you know, good news is that James O'Keefe is a hero.
OK, he's a hero.
He's a fighter, and today he announced the launch of his new media company called OMG, otherwise known as O'Keefe Media Group, and he's going to be crowdsourcing undercover videos from hundreds of thousands of free agents, of American citizens that want to buy hidden cameras and go undercover and be brave and do something, as James O'Keefe would say.
I love James.
He wrote the foreword for my book.
He's like a brother to me, and I just wish him all the best in his new endeavor.
And that sound you hear is the sound of Project Veritas donors picking up their checkbooks and running away from Project Veritas and looking to cash a new check in support of OMG.
So be sure you follow them on Twitter because they just launched their Twitter account today.
We have an open invitation to James O'Keefe to appear here on The Stone Zone.
I hope he will avail himself of that.
I, too, am a longtime friend and admirer of James O'Keefe, and I think his greatest acts of public service lie ahead.
Speaking of that, I'm going to toss you a curveball here.
Laura, you've run twice for Congress.
In your first race, you hit the highest watermark any Republican had ever hit in an overwhelmingly Democratic district.
You knew you were taking on an uphill struggle.
In your more recent race for Congress, I myself have seen troubling irregularities in the Yeah, so I definitely a curveball, Roger.
So I definitely am interested in running for Congress again.
out there about that.
What is your current thinking about the potential of running for Congress again?
Yeah, so I definitely a curveball, Roger.
So I definitely am interested in running for Congress again.
I have said that I want to run for Congress again, but also our country is on life support right now.
And so I'm really evaluating things I do want to run.
But at the same time, I would love to help President Donald Trump in any way possible win for a third time because his election was stolen.
2020.
And I think that our last hope as a nation is President Donald Trump getting back into the White House and turning things around.
And so I'm going to be doing everything in my power to help President Donald Trump get elected from now and 2024 on Election Day.
And obviously, you know, running for office in the state of Florida, it's a changing dynamic now with regards to Governor Ron DeSantis, who's inevitably going to be announcing and also President Donald Trump and his campaign.
So Florida's the battleground.
It's the place to be.
And I definitely am, you know, evaluating what I'm going to be doing over these next few months.
And I'll be making an announcement soon.
Yeah, I don't think any decision is called for today, as I've told you privately.
I think there's a lot of pluses and minuses.
Okay, we're going to put Laura Loomer's Substack address up on the screen one more time.
We just had it up, but I'm going to put it up again so people can know.
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Laura, thank you so much for joining us on The Stone Zone.
At this exact moment, DeSantis supporting heads are exploding everywhere across the country.
Yeah, I know, right?
They're going to start accusing us of being paid operatives, right?
Because, of course, nobody can just have an original thought of their own.
You're a hero.
You're a legend.
You're an icon.
You're one of my best friends and also my mentor, Roger.
And I just love you.
And President Trump was so lucky to have you on his first campaign.
And, you know, perhaps, you know, maybe I'll ask you a question.
Are you going to be getting involved in the 2022 campaign, Roger?
I would do whatever I'm asked to do.
I've been unabashed in the fact that I support President Donald Trump.
I still want to finish a book about the horrific two-year experience of being hunted down and put through a Soviet-style witch hunt, a Soviet-style trial, which I did absolutely nothing wrong.
So we shall see what the future brings.
Let's put up that Substack address for Laura Loomer.
One more time, fellows.
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Laura Loomer, thank you so much for joining us on The Stone Zone.
Thanks so much for having me, Roger.
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