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Jan. 26, 2023 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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TAKING DOWN GOVERNMENT GANGSTERS w/ Kash Patel + Pastors for Trump Announcement
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With legendary Republican strategist and political icon, and pundit, Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents, he is a New York Times best-selling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
I'm Roger Stone, and welcome to this very special edition of The Stone Zone. - Today we have a guest who I have looked forward to having on the show for some time.
He is a man that I admire tremendously.
It has been my honor to speak at the Reawaken America Tour events with him.
And he is a freedom fighter, a truth teller, a man of enormous capability and courage.
Kash Patel joins us now.
On the Stone Zone.
Roger, thanks so much for having me.
It's incredibly humbling to be with you.
What an honor to be on your tremendous show after such a remarkable career that you paved the way for us.
Well, you know, I tried to look up your biography on Wikipedia, but then I found that that is a completely fictional site.
I mean, they cite really authoritative sources like Vox, Vanity Fair, and others.
I then realized it was about as inaccurate as my own bio on Wikipedia.
But you have served your country in a number of key positions.
You have a terrific record of Public Service serving as former Department of Defense Chief of Staff to House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes.
That's where I first met you when I went voluntarily before the committee and I still make the argument that I made no misstatement that was Material or relevant.
Certainly you never said anything that hid any underlying crime.
You're also the founder of a foundation, Fight With Cash, where you're doing the Lord's work.
You've written a new book, which we're going to talk about.
You've written some children's books.
I really admire that.
Maybe that's something I should look at next.
And folks, of course, can follow you on Truth Social.
I just passed 100,000 followers on Truth Social.
And I must tell you, I love Truth Social.
It is a great, great place to talk to so many patriots.
One of the things I wanted to focus on out of the box was a story that unfortunately seems to have Come and gone very quickly and I think deserved more public focus.
We recently learned that when you are on the staff of the House Intelligence Committee and you were deeply involved in investigating the origins of the Russian collusion hoax and the potential abuses by the FBI, we learned that the FBI had you under surveillance.
This is truly incredible.
Uh, it's, uh, one of those things where you just wake up and you're like, wait, did that really happen?
And it's not like it was a Democratic administration doing it to a Republican Congress.
It was a Republican administration.
Who was employed, had in its employ government gangsters like Rod Rosenstein and the new special counsel Robert Herr.
Robert Herr was then the number three lawyer at the entire Department of Justice as its principal deputy.
These two individuals were the ones blockading Devin Nunes' subpoenas where I was the chief investigator for Russiagate.
They did not want us to have the FISA court documents, the FBI files, the corruption from Strzok and Page and Comey and McCabe.
And so many others that led to unlawful surveillance of President Trump.
But what was shocking to learn is that they subpoenaed my personal records, my business records, my financial records, my phone records, my emails, as far as we can tell, and much more.
But we only found out just a couple of weeks ago, Roger, as you pointed out, because Google was the one that informed me.
And how is it that any member of Congress is okay with their senior staff being under surveillance For doing constitutional oversight work.
It really is one of the most shocking things I've ever seen.
And that's just what we know about, Roger.
What else did they go out and get?
And why did Rod Rosenstein and his buddy, who's now the special counsel, go out and authorize?
Because those two are the only ones that could have authorized a subpoena against a congressional staffer.
Because Rod Rosenstein threatened Devin Nunes and I in January of 2018, in a meeting, he said specifically, flat out, I'm going to investigate you guys because you're coming after us.
Well, he had already taken it a step further months before he issued the subpoenas against me, and I hope these congressional committees dig into it because I don't know of a more chilling way to subdue the oversight powers of Congress than to politically go after people who are exposing corruption.
It seems to me that you legally have very serious separation of powers issues here, among other things.
I was in a very similar situation.
I learned that before the Justice Department had gotten an approved warrant from multiple federal judges, and by the way, they told multiple federal judges they had evidence of conspiracy against the United States.
Money laundering, unauthorized access to a government computer, wire fraud, mail fraud, misprision of a felony before and after the fact.
Of course, they had no evidence of any of that, including counterfeiting.
I think that was one of the other alleged charges.
I learned that Apple had turned over all my data from the cloud This was the same apple that refused to turn over data involving Islamic terrorists.
So it really is an extraordinary abuse.
Now, I know that you are involved in the controversy over President Donald Trump's Handling of certain sensitive documents and therefore if I ask you a question, which because of an ongoing legal proceeding you're not able to answer, I fully understand that and please just say so.
But I have seen you say on numerous forums that you believe, and I think this is correct, That the President has the unilateral authority to declassify any document at any time during his presidency.
That is 100% accurate.
That's not grey law, that's not red law, that is black letter law.
And look, and me as the former Deputy Director of National Intelligence can tell you that the Office of the Directorate of National Intelligence was stood up after 9-11 to streamline not just intelligence sharing, But the classification of intelligence and who can classify and who can declassify.
And it was decided by Congress in the subsequent regulations that the only sole arbiter of classification in the United States of America is a sitting president of the United States.
You know who's not has that authority?
Who does not have it?
Any vice president doesn't have it.
That law has not changed.
The only way it can change is if Congress passed a new law and the president signed it.
And it's important to put into perspective when we now have the Joe Biden stuff and the Pence stuff.
And it's funny how karma has a way of coming back and kicking these government gangsters in the butt.
But now we basically have the exoneration of Donald Trump based on that fact that we just talked about, plus the Presidential Records Act, which allows the president to take whatever he wants, essentially.
And so what I'm happy about is that we are seeing The exposure of the two-tier system of justice, which Merrick Garland and Chris Wray are spearheading, even though they're lying to the American people every single day by telling us they are not prosecuting people based on fear or favor, which is exactly what they did to you, what they did to me, and what they did to President Trump and so many other people.
They really don't know how to handle this Joe Biden classification issue, which is just metastasizing all over the world.
All over the country.
And, um, I don't think it has an end in sight, but as I told people, um, privately and publicly now, our target is not Joe Biden.
Our target is the administrative state that we must use these opportunities to defeat them and the deep state and restore their service to the American people.
Now, under Chairman Devin Nunes, the House Intelligence Committee released a memo, in essence a report, and after a thorough investigation, they concluded, I think quite correctly, that there was no evidence of collusion between Russian intelligence and the Trump campaign.
We also learned very recently that at the behest of Adam Schiff, Twitter suppressed discussion of that memo.
I also very specifically remember a counter-memo produced by Schiff and his cohorts, which contradicted the work done by the Republican majority.
That report, by the way, concluded that I had not misled the committee In my comments, the Justice Department took a different view of that, and as I think you know, since no misstatement I made to the committee was material, hid any Russian collusion which didn't exist, the purpose for my prosecution was to pressure me to testify falsely against President Donald Trump.
something after passing three polygraph tests to boot, I declined to do.
Do you still stand by the Nunes report, the Nunes memo?
Yeah, look, we worked heavily on that, and the Nunes memo has withstood the test of time.
And the thing about being its chief investigator and putting it together is we did something that may have been a little novel.
Nothing in that report, in that memo, the four-page Nunes Memo, was our language, was our verbiage, was our information.
We relied solely and specifically on the FBI's own documents, the DOJ's own documents, the FISA court's own FISA applications.
And we took basically verbatim out of those documents because we knew it was going to be heavily scrutinized, especially when we said we were going to declassify it and release it to the world.
And what we did was a little bit of a savvy maneuvering.
We basically goaded Adam Schiff and company to write their own memo because we knew once we got the ultimate facts out that his his memo would expose all the lies they'd been saying continuously.
And the quintessential one being that, oh, Donald Trump and anyone associated with him, me, you, Devin, Roger Stone, are all Russian assets and in bed with the Russian government to overthrow the government.
Well, we know that the only people that were in bed with the Russian government were Christopher Steele, the Democratic Party, the Democrats, and now we know the FBI, as based on the latest charging of Charles McDonagall.
The number one counterintelligence agent who worked on the Carter Page FISA from New York City.
Now we know that it is proof beyond any doubt that what they accused us Republicans of doing is the very thing they did themselves, but they had the radical left-wing media carrying the water for them.
And I encourage people who haven't seen it or read it, the Nunes Memo outlines shocking abuses of authority by DOJ, the suppression of exculpatory evidence to a federal judge, all to achieve a political end, signed off by the likes of Rod Rosenstein, James Comey, Andy McCabe, And so many other corrupt government gangsters that we need serious, serious reform coming our way in our intelligence community and law enforcement if this country is going to survive much longer.
I have kind of noticed in recent months when pressed after spending millions and millions of dollars and with unlimited legal scope and unlimited staff,
The only thing that Adam Schiff and, for example, Mueller prosecutor Andrew Weissman can point to is this, I think, flawed claim that Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort sent polling data to a man named Konstantin Kalimnik, who they claim is a Russian intelligence asset.
Based on all my research, it appears to me that Mr. Kalimnick, who worked previously for Senator John McCain, was more likely a U.S.
government intelligence asset.
The independent journalist Matt Taibbi has absolutely documented that Kalimnik was reporting on a regular basis to the Ukrainian embassy in Kiev, that the information that he provided was being sent back to the State Department and to the intelligence agencies in cables, cables in which his name was actually redacted because he was cables in which his name was actually redacted because he was such a sensitive Do you have a view on Mr. Kalimnik's status?
I don't know for certain, but I think your hunches and more than I don't mean to demean it, It's not a hunch.
You've done your research extensively on this matter.
And it highlights one of the things I think you and I share.
Confidential human sources have been used by the FBI and the intelligence community to cover up the corruption of the intelligence community and the FBI.
And I think you're dead on right when it comes to Konstantin Kilimnik.
I don't think he was a foreign asset, just like I don't.
And we prove Christopher Steele.
Was one of their confidential corruption cover-up sources, just like Ray Epps and so many others we'll find out on January 6th and all the interactions there.
But going back to Konstantin Kilimnik, I think you're absolutely right.
They, the deep state, the radical left, have mastered the art of utilizing government-funded, taxpayer-booted
Lines of effort to investigate political opponents and then leak incorrect, fraudulent information to the mainstream media to castigate and defame people like you and so many others and myself, all because we care to do one thing more than they ever care to do, which was serve this country in the best way we know how by providing the truth.
And it is our government that has continued to lie to us from the purchase of law enforcement and intelligence.
And Konstantin Kilimnik is just yet another example of what I believe is a government overreach through its corruption cover-up network by using confidential human sources.
What do you think of the decision by the new Speaker, Kevin McCarthy, to bar the odious Adam Schiff and sidekick Eric Swalwell from membership in the House Intelligence Committee?
Well, you know, we joke about it a little bit, but in all seriousness, Roger, I think you're onto something here.
It's one of the most critical and crucial decisions Kevin McCarthy, Speaker McCarthy, could have made jumping out of the gate because we now know for certain Adam Schiff lied to the American people about Russiagate, about Donald Trump, about the Ukraine impeachment hoax, and so many other things.
He would read wholesale fiction into congressional records regarding phone calls of senior government officials Just to make a false fake news headline and the American people bought it.
And when it comes to the likes of Adams or Swalwell, This is a man who had one of the senior most positions in the United States government when it comes to classified information, who had completely compromised himself with his relations with a Chinese spy, a CCP agent.
Just think if two Republicans named say Devin Nunes and one of the other individuals on the Republican side had a relationship.
Uh, and I'm putting it nicely, uh, with the Chinese spy and just think if Devin Nunes or the like had gone to the well of Congress and lied to the American people about the doings and the undergoings of the intelligence community, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
And I think Kevin, uh, Kevin McCarthy made a point that I want to harp on here a little bit.
He specifically said if the American public had received the briefing from the FBI that I did about Swalwell, they wouldn't want Swalwell anywhere near.
In any U.S.
intelligence matters.
What I want from Kevin McCarthy in this Congress is that briefing to be made public.
I believe we have a right to know what the basis of the decision was so that Swalwell and Schiff can't run around and say you banned us for nothing.
We have a lot of information on Adam Schiff.
We have some information on Swalwell, but it was the right decision.
And I'm hoping this new Congress puts that information out so the American public can know what type of leadership the intelligence community had under these Democrats and why the intelligence community is in the tank for the radical left-wing agenda.
It appears to me that Congressman Swalwell penetrated a red Chinese spy and she then penetrated his office with a staff member.
Given his access to classified information, that seems to me to be an extraordinary security risk.
In my own case, Schiff, Swalwell, Congressman Castro all violated both the law and the House rules by disseminating my classified testimony before the committee at a time when it was still sealed.
So I applaud the courage of Speaker McCarthy.
And I realize that he is now he's being threatened, I notice on Twitter.
By Adam Schiff.
I hope he will stick to his guns.
We're told by the talking heads at CNN that the retention of documents by Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago and their intention of confidential or top-secret documents by Joe Biden from the time that he was a senator, from the time he was vice president, Our apples and oranges.
And although I think that's true, it's not true in the sense that they mean it to be true.
Can you break down the difference for us?
Yeah, absolutely.
Look, when it comes to, we've outlined the authorities of a president and a vice president while they're in office as it relates to classified information.
But here's the distinction that I want to make between these two cases.
Joe Biden Never had the authority to declassify anything and the Presidential Records Act does not apply to Joe Biden and permit him to take documents and materials outside of the White House when he leaves government.
More importantly, Roger, we are talking about at least half a dozen locations that have had classified information scattered about for nearly two decades.
That goes to the time when he was in the United States Senate.
And it had absolutely no authority to take documents anywhere private outside of a vault or a SCIF, as we call it, a Secure Compartment Information Facility.
And here's the thing that ticks me off the most as a former Intel guy and a former national security guy.
Every person that Joe Biden allowed to touch, to have these documents touched and moved, has committed a mishandling of classified information felony.
And beyond that, we now know, thanks to the great reporting of Miranda Devine, that the email that Hunter Biden utilized to leverage an eight-figure payout from the Ukrainian government, which I believe contained classified information.
Where on earth did he get that classified information?
You don't have to be in government to know it's classified.
Now that document is public, thanks to that great reporting.
And my concern is not just to pay for play schemes that are criminal with the CCP in the Ukraine, but based on 20 years of documents being out in the wild that are classified, what leverage That, to me, is the biggest difference between the Donald Trump-Mar-a-Lago situation and the Joe Biden situation.
Putting the other legalese aside, we are in a position of tremendous weakness thanks to our reckless treatment of classified material by our sitting Commander-in-Chief.
And then he goes on TV and lies about it, saying he has no idea, he has nothing to do with anything, and his office says the search is over.
The search is going to be going on for a long time, Roger.
We're going to find a lot more documents, and I think we are going to see the two-tier system of justice almost collapse on itself because these guys, Merrick Garland and Chris Wray, cannot keep up with the lies for the cover-up.
Well, I think most people saw the 6 a.m.
raid on my home.
in in 2019.
The FBI conducted a 13 hour search of the premises.
They also raided my office, plus an apartment I then had in New York.
I would point out that nothing obtained in that raid ended up being used as evidence in my trial because, well, they found no evidence that I had received anything from WikiLeaks or any other Russian source.
I don't understand why we relied on Joe Biden's lawyers to conduct the search and then hand documents over to the DOJ, to the National Archives, yet we conducted a raid on Donald Trump's house.
This kind of reminds me of when, rather than having the FBI examine the computer servers at the Democratic National Committee, we instead relied on a report by CrowdStrikes, a partisan IT operation that certified for the FBI that there was evidence of an online Russian hack.
We later learned when the head of CrowdStrikes, Sean Henry, who just happened to be a former deputy of Robert Mueller's, testified under oath before the House Intelligence Committee that that report included no such evidence.
This seems very evocative of the same tactic.
Why hasn't the FBI raided not only Biden's home in Delaware, not only his home at Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, not the residence of Hunter Biden or the residence of Joe Biden's brother, Jim.
It would seem to me that if you're going to raid Mar-a-Lago, particularly at a time when President Trump is engaged in good faith negotiations over the disposition of documents, why was there no raid on the Bidens?
You know, it's quite simple.
It's because these government gangsters, Merrick Garland and Chris Wray and company, and their deputies have decided that Joe Biden must be treated differently.
And that's because they think Joe Biden is the president they need in order to secure their careers and basically their career path.
But the reason that they are refusing to do what good law enforcement should do, what I as a former federal prosecutor did, by issuing search warrants to anyone in every place that these documents ever touched and by issuing raid authorizations to anyone in every place these documents ever touched, the reason they're not doing by issuing search warrants to anyone in every place that these documents ever touched and by issuing raid authorizations to anyone in every place these documents ever touched, the And more importantly, it will make and exonerate Donald Trump even more so than has already been done.
That's the singular reason they will not allow a uniform system of justice.
They have to treat you and Donald Trump and any other individual in Donald Trump's corporate differently to make them look like a criminal even when they are not and create a different set of rules because they can only survive under a made-up fiction set of legalese, just like Hillary Clinton's false exoneration by James Comey when she mishandled classified information.
Just like CrowdStrike's total boondoggle over the DNC servers.
I'm so glad you brought that up.
It took me two years to get that deposition and others, yours included, declassified so we can get it out into the public.
These types of incidences have destroyed our faith In our law enforcement community.
And the only reason they're doing it is because the media gives them cover.
The congressional side gave them cover up until just a couple of weeks ago when we finally took over the House.
So I think we can break through there and get some accountability for the people.
And it's not like Merrick Garland and Ray are going anywhere.
And it's not like Joe Biden is ever going to fire any one of these people who are protecting his interests.
Because this FBI does not want to take down Hunter Biden for the crimes he's committed and Joe Biden for the crimes he's committed.
They want them to stay in power so they can stay in power and most importantly preclude Donald Trump from ever returning to power.
The judge in my case very specifically denied my defense attorneys a copy of the CrowdStrike report.
Now we know why.
On November 3rd, 2020, after I was pardoned by court order, the Department of Justice at midnight
On the busiest media day of the year, a presidential election day, released the last remaining redacted sections of Robert Mueller's report in which he admitted that he had found, quote, no factual evidence of my involvement with Russian collusion, WikiLeaks collaboration, or the phishing and publication of John Podesta's emails.
You won't read that at the New York Times or the Washington Post or the Wall Street Journal or the Associated Press ad nauseam.
It is the two-tiered justice system writ large.
And there is a symbiotic relationship between the ruling elite of the Democratic Party and the permanent establishment in Washington.
And they're handmaidens in the fake news media or the legacy news media.
Cash, tell us about your new book, Government Gangsters, which you can get at governmentgangsters.com.
Yeah, the pre-sale's out now, Roger.
You know, no one knows how to write books authoritatively better than you by putting truth and fact out there.
But what I thought I would do is issue a book about the deep state.
And tragically, the deep state's real.
And I outline the government gangsters that are in the executive branch of government in every agency and department by name, who served a Republican administration and Democratic administration.
But the one thing you have to do is not just outline them by name and their faults and their Fraudulent and illegal activities while serving in these positions you have to provide a solution so government gangsters is all about going agency by agency And itemizing for the American people that we restore the FBI, the DOJ, the DOD, the CIA, the NSA, to serve the mission of the American people.
It is possible.
It's not done by cheap rhetoric.
It's going to take another election and another massive personnel package to go in there and clean house at the upper levels of these places.
But it's also going to take educating the American public on the two-tier system of justice, the hypocrisy, the actions of Adam Schiff and company.
So that's what government gangsters is all about.
I use my experience in national security, law enforcement, defense, and intelligence to show the American public that there are so many people willing to serve this mission and are serving this mission that's being brutalized by the top-level brass government gangsters who need to be removed.
So if you go to governmentgangsters.com, pre-sales up now, of course this government is bear hugging this manuscript and preventing its current release but we will take them to federal court if need be.
This book is going to print so is the appendix which lists every government gangster by name and the short form way to fix this government at the end.
Governmentgangsters.com I'm certainly going to pre-order my copy.
Tell us now a word about your foundation, the FightWithCash.com, which can be found at FightWithCash.com.
What is the mission of this organization?
You know, quite simply, Roger, it's to help other people.
That's the way I was raised.
That's the way I served in government.
And what we've done is basically created a 501c3 charity where we have provided financial assistance to January 6 families in need.
We have provided financial assistance to whistleblowers.
We have endowed a scholarship.
We are providing assistance to kids who want to go to summer camps to expand their educational horizons.
And we have funded lawsuits for innocent Americans who have been mercilessly defamed by the radical left-wing media.
And we've also funded active duty member, military members, legal bills, so that they can stay enrolled in our military and serve the American people.
FightWithCash.com takes no money.
Nobody on my board earns a dollar.
We have a lot of fun merchandise.
All the content on fightwithcash.com is free.
It's the one way that we've decided we have to give back with the platforms that we have.
So go check out fightwithcash.com.
I greatly appreciate you picking up some fun merch.
All the money goes back into the coffer.
And last year we gave away almost $100,000, including $30,000 worth of holiday meals.
And I'm hoping to multiply that by five times this year.
Well, as you know, Cash, I'm a dog lover.
I have named one of my dogs Cash.
This is to make light of you.
This is a homage to you.
This is because I admire you and your fight.
You are a fighter.
I cut through all of that Wikipedia.
Roger, it's been an honor and very humbling to be with you.
Thanks so much for having me on your amazing show.
And I admire loyalty and I admire your fight.
I want to thank you again for being with us today on The Stone Zone.
Roger, it's been an honor and very humbling to be with you.
Thanks so much for having me on your amazing show.
Thank you again.
There you have it, folks.
Kash Patel, former Department of Defense Chief of Staff, Chief Counsel, Senior Committee Aide to House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, a man who is still in the thick of the fight to save America.
I urge you to order his new book, Government Gangsters There's going to be a legal fight.
That's how incendiary and revealing this book is, so you might want to get your order in now.
I also urge you to go to his foundation, fightwithcash.com, to support the good works that he is doing to help others who have been victimized by the deep state.
I thank him again for joining us.
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Joining us now, a friend of the show, Pastor Jackson Laumeyer of Tulsa, Oklahoma, a patriot, a supporter of President Trump, an activist, ran a very respectable campaign for the U.S.
Senate.
I think that his greatest days of public service lie yet ahead, but because he's a grassroots activist, he's gone out and started an organization called Pastors for Trump, and he joins us now to talk about that.
Hello, Mr. Stone.
It's always good to be on with you.
Thank you very much for joining us, Jackson.
Uh, I saw a story in Rolling Stone.
Uh, about your organization, uh, Pastors for Trump.
I actually thought it was a relatively fair story.
Um, while your organization, uh, is not formally and officially, uh, blessed by President Donald Trump, he did tweet very favorably, uh, pardon me, he did post on True Social very favorably about your grassroots activities.
So, tell us what it is you're up to.
Well, yeah, we just recognize, you know, our nation is in a ton of trouble right now.
And the Bible tells us that when the wicked rule, the people groan, but when the righteous rule, the people rejoice.
And right now Americans are groaning.
And so we have a big election coming up in 2024.
And so the idea was, well, the largest voting bloc in America is the Christian voting bloc.
But unfortunately, our turnout numbers are very, very low.
So how can you get the largest voting bloc in America to turn out in 2024?
This voting bloc is going to be inclined to vote for the Republican nominee who will be Donald Trump.
And so how do you get this voting bloc to turn out and vote?
I believe it's by mobilizing pastors because Christians, they listen to their pastors.
And so that's what we've been doing, mobilizing pastors in all 50 states.
We have over 1,800 pastors already on board representing hundreds and thousands of different congregants across the country.
And we just recognize that our nation is in need of a fighter in the Oval Office.
You and I both know that that is not Joe Biden or anybody that Democrats will put forth.
And the best person on the Republican side is Donald Trump.
And so we're fully behind him and we're looking forward to the race coming up.
Now a number of, shall we call them, liberal media outlets have reported that there's been great slippage among evangelical Christians, or very specifically among pastors who supported Donald Trump in the last presidential election.
But when I spoke to you by phone a couple days ago, you told me you haven't seen that reflected at all.
So what is that false narrative all about?
Well, it is true.
There are some, some is the key word, some prominent evangelical leaders that were in what we'll call the Trump orbit from 2016 to 2020 that have come out and said they're not going to endorse anyone in the primary.
That is a small handful.
You have to realize that the vast majority of American Christians, they do not attend a mega church with a mega personality as the pastor.
They attend a small to medium sized church.
And what we've discovered, Is that the small to medium-sized churches, their pastors are loyal to Donald Trump.
And here's why.
Because Donald Trump did what he said he was going to do.
And so pastors of small congregations, medium-sized congregations, which make up the vast majority of the evangelical electorate, they are super loyal to President Trump because the contrast is so great.
It is impossible as a Christian to support a Democratic candidate in the day that we live in.
If it's going to be a Republican, we assume it's going to be Donald Trump, the vast majority of Christians are going to turn out and we're mobilizing pastors.
So that narrative, just because a few prominent evangelical leaders have said they're not going to endorse anybody, that doesn't mean that the president has lost ground in the evangelical world.
That's not even where close to the case.
Well, there's certainly never been a more pro-life candidate, or president, I should say, than Donald Trump.
Many previous Republican presidents gave the right-to-life issue lip service, but Donald Trump has walked the walk.
He did move the Capitol to Jerusalem, again, in fulfillment of biblical prophecy.
I don't think there has been a more honest Candidate that evangelical voters on a rank-and-file basis Could get behind now.
I know you have a big conference call coming up Tell us about that Absolutely.
So every single month we have our national prayer call and that is where we'll have pastors from across the country lead in a time of prayer and Our call in February is going to be Monday night, February the 6th At 7.30 p.m.
Eastern Time, and we'll have pastors on praying, but then we're also going to have a very special guest, and it's the man, the myth, the legend who I'm talking to right now.
Mr. Roger Stone will be our special guest on that conference call to give us some insight of what we're looking at in regards to the 2024 presidential race.
And so, Mr. Stone, you'll come on.
Give us an update politically and where you see things at.
And then we'll have pastors lead in prayer.
And this is open, not just to pastors.
It's open to everybody that's concerned about our country.
So if someone is watching right now and they would like to be a part of this prayer call on Monday, February the 6th at 7.30 PM Eastern time, they can go to pastorsfortrump.com.
And that's pastorsfortrump.com.
And they can register there.
They can join us that night.
We'll send them the link and everything like that to hear from you, many of these great pastors, because here's what we recognize, Mr. Stone.
As Billy Graham put it, in order for America to get back on its feet, the people of God have to first get down on their knees in prayer.
And so to save this country, it's going to begin with prayer.
And America's worth saving and America's worth praying for.
And to make America great again, you know it and I know it, we first have to make America godly again.
And so that's our aim, and we would love to have anybody who wants to join in.
Pray for this country to join us.
PastorsforTrump.com.
You know, I've gotten, of course, some flack about the fact that I intend to call into this call, because, like all of us, I'm a sinner.
I have not lived a perfect life.
The Lord often calls on broken people, broken vessels, to do His will, and I'm not the person I was just five short years ago.
But what the Lord cares about is what you think now, because everyone can be forgiven.
Everyone can be redeemed.
All it requires is a confession of your sins and a pledge to walk in His way.
So I don't claim to be the perfect Christian.
In fact, I don't claim to be perfect at all.
There is only one who is perfect.
That is Him.
He is perfect.
The rest of us are all flawed.
But I'm I'm proud to be associated with pastors for Trump.
I'm proud to be calling into your call and to help you organize.
I do think that that two years It's a very long time for a presidential campaign, and in your case, I think this is good news, because you are already reaching critical mass, you're already reaching tens of thousands of Christians, and your organization hasn't even been in existence for six months.
What do you think the future steps are in terms of recruiting more to your banner?
Well, so the real key, this is just my opinion, is recognizing that most American Christians, they do not attend a megachurch.
They attend churches that are anywhere from 50 to 500 members.
And so that is the real target because that makes up the vast majority of the evangelical electorate.
And so we're going to go after pastors that are Pastoring small churches, medium-sized churches, and that's the real goal.
They outnumber the larger churches, and I believe if we can rally the pastors...
They will rally their members to turn out and vote.
And as a Christian, it's very, very simple when you get to the voting block.
It is the Democrat who is pro-death, the Democrat who is against the sanctity of the family, and then you have the Republican.
It's just night and day.
You can't even compare the two.
So it's an easy decision for a Christian when they're there.
We just got to get them out to get out and vote.
And that's been our problem in the past is low voter turnout.
And we're very optimistic that pastors can encourage their people to get out and vote.
This is a very exciting grassroots endeavor.
I was very, very happy to see President Trump commend you on True Social on this grassroots activity.
Nobody is subsidizing this.
You're raising what you need for this grassroots effort on your own.
I also admire that.
But you've put your finger on a very key point, and that is evangelical Christians are a vitally important segment of the coalition that elected Donald Trump in 2016 and stood with him in 2020.
There were other presidential candidates who seemed to have a claim in this community.
One particular candidate whose father was an active evangelical preacher.
But in the end, evangelical Christian voters overwhelmingly in the primaries chose Donald Trump.
I believe that that will be the case again.
And I think that your organization, Pastors for Trump, is going to be a very, very key element in galvanizing and mobilizing those voters.
Tell us again the website.
Let's put that back up on the screen so that folks who are interested in joining, there it is, pastorsfortrump.com, pastorsfortrump.com.
And again, this is not just for pastors.
This is for all evangelicals who want to get involved in this grassroots movement.
So I would urge you to go to the website, learn more, log on for the upcoming conference call.
What is that date again?
It's going to be on Monday, February the 6th at 7.30 p.m.
Eastern Time.
There you have it, folks.
Jackson Lawmire, Tulsa, Oklahoma, the pastor of Sheridan Church, joins us now.
Last time I was at Sheridan Church, you were bursting at the seams.
You know, I was, as I think people know, I've been going to Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Coral Ridge, Florida, a church founded by Dr. James Kennedy, a church dedicated by Reverend Billy Graham.
I was baptized as a Catholic.
I most definitely am a Christian.
I don't really care whether you're a Catholic or a Baptist or a Lutheran or a Presbyterian or what kind of Christian you are.
What unites us is our belief in the birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ seated at the right hand of the Lord.
So I cannot tell you How much I look forward now to going to church every Sunday at Coral Bridge and that same feeling, that same inspiration is something that I felt every time I've been to Sheridan Church.
I found when I was going to the Catholic Church locally that I came away depressed.
I didn't come away inspired.
There was not a feeling of welcomeness that I felt at Sheridan or that I feel at Coral Ridge.
So what's going on at Sheridan?
Are you going to be able to expand?
Because you were running out of room last time I was there.
Yeah, well, you know, now we run two services every Sunday and they're both completely full.
And so we acquired some land here in Tulsa and we have a big announcement coming up here very soon about the future of Sheridan.
And so we're just excited.
You know, God has poured out his blessing.
In his favor on Sheridan Church and you were around when it was really starting to grow and you saw.
And so now we're at two full services, Roger.
So if you come back, you got to come to church twice, not just once, but twice with me.
And so we're having a blast and we'll be making an announcement here very shortly.
But thank God we've acquired some land and the best is yet to come for Sheridan.
Okay.
Well, Jackson, ask you one more thing.
And that is when you see him, please give my warmest greetings to Pastor Craig Hagan.
He became a good friend when I was in Oklahoma, a spiritual advisor, a true man of God.
Please give Reverend Hagen my very best regards.
You can count on it.
You can count on it.
Craig loves you.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, there you have it.
Pastor Jackson Laumeyer, the chairman of Pastors for Trump, a true indigenous grassroots organization.
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