Dave Rubin hosts a Friday roundtable with Batya Unger and Nate Friedman, critiquing Jimmy Kimmel's mockery of Markwayne Mullin as evidence of Democratic elitism toward laborers. They contrast Mullin with Alejandro Mayorkas regarding border security, condemn Hassan Piker for "LARPing" communism in Cuba while wearing $1,500 Cartier glasses during blackouts, and debate New York safety after a Khomeini vigil assault. Friedman asserts Jews share hatred against white Americans, while Rubin laments politicized education following a viral video of Florida students failing civics questions, ultimately arguing that systemic contempt drives current political failures. [Automatically generated summary]
It is Friday, which means it's time for another Friday roundtable extravaganza.
And joining me is the host of News Nation's Batya Exclamation Point, Batya Unger Sargon, and first-time Rubin Report guest, host of the Nate Friedman Show, Nate Friedman.
I should also note that you are both New Yorkers and you are both, I think, probably the last two Jews wearing stars of David out in New York, ready to fight with the crazy Islamists and jihadists and homeless people and methadics and mayor and everything else.
And I have to say, one of the memes that I think is very accurate from the left is when these very macho burley conservatives will be like, I was going to take my family to New York, but I will not because we will not be safe.
So when it was between Biden and Trump, if you remember, Biden called Zelensky Putin at one of the NATO summits.
And I was like, hmm, it's kind of a yikes.
And I wanted to see if people were really going to vote for him.
So I went out into the streets in New York and just asked people, who are you voting for?
And quickly, people who were voting Kamala or at the time Biden didn't want to mention it and would only mention bad things about Trump, not good things about Kamala.
So it's just, that's how I got my start into this.
And now you just are out there with these whackadoodles every day.
Batya and I do this from a comfort of a studio or a home, and you're just out with the filth.
It's admirable.
I guess youth is wasted on the young.
All right, let's dive in.
We're actually going to skip mostly on the war stuff and just catch up on a couple other things that were happening sort of in the culture wars and a little bit of politics on this Friday.
But let's start because I actually didn't cover the story earlier in the week, but there is a new head of DHS, as you guys probably know.
Congressman Mark Wayne Mullen was confirmed this week.
And I thought we'd start by throwing to a quote-unquote joke by quote-unquote comedian Jimmy Kimmel.
Rudy Giuliani might not be with us much longer, but don't worry, Trump's got a whole new generation of thinkers lined up, including his newly confirmed Secretary of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne, Chuck Mike, Bruce Dave Mullen.
Mount maybe Mellon's better.
He is the now former senator of Oklahoma.
Before he was elected to the Senate, Mark Wayne Mullen was a low-level MMA fighter and a plumber.
My friend Ben Dominic, who's now one of the new editors over at the Daily Wire, he added a little context to Mark Wayne's resume, actually.
He wrote, when Mark Wayne Mullen was 20, his dad's health took a turn.
He dropped out of college to run the family business.
He built it from six people into a multi-million dollar HVAC company with 150-plus employees.
He's a pillar of his community, and Jimmy Kimmel can't even tell a funny joke.
Humor or lack thereof aside, but yeah, I'm not saying that running an HVAC company is in and of itself qualification to be dealing with Homeland Security issues.
So you feel free to comment on that.
But the elite view of everyone that's a plumber or just anything else other than what Jimmy is, I mean, this is why everyone hates liberals.
And what's amazing about it is he didn't even have anyone on staff to say to him, you know, maybe a plumber is watching this.
Like maybe you don't want to insult people who work 10 times harder than you for a fraction of the pay, who used to be the Democrats' base, by the way, and now won't even look at the Democrats.
I wonder why.
This kind of elitism, the contempt for labor for people who work with their hands for a living is utterly endemic to the Democratic Party at every single level.
And it explains 90% of their policy agenda items, especially immigration.
Because if you think that being a plumber is beneath contempt, of course, you're not going to have a problem with importing millions and millions of people to compete with plumbers in the labor market.
Another thing I want to point out, the guy who had the job under Biden was, of course, eminently qualified.
This was Alejandro Mayorkas, who had credentials up the wazoo.
And what did he do with those credentials?
He opened the border and allowed in murderers and terrorists and people who would then go on like Jose Medina Medina to murder Sheridan Gorman.
So, you know, being a credentialed person doesn't actually make you better at a job.
It just makes you have more contempt for people who might actually be good at the job.
And in some cases, it makes you complicit in murder, as we just saw.
So this was just like such a perfect encapsulation of everything wrong with the Democrats.
Somebody pointed this out about AOC and how, like, the Democrats love to hold her up as a woman of the people, but Mark Wayne Mullen is unqualified.
And then a leftist quote tweeted it in what I initially thought was like agreeing with the conservatives, but turned out no, was just doing the thing again.
So he said, yes, well, AOC graduated with honors with a joint degree in economics and whatever, business or whatever it was.
Mark Wayne Mullen, blah, blah, blah.
And it was like, I thought he was agreeing.
Like, she's even a fake working class person.
She has degrees, you know, in economics from fancy private universities.
But no, he was doubling down on the idea that you need a fancy private school degree to even have a foot in the door.
And I think Mark Wayne Mullen is the only senator who doesn't have a college degree, which again, endemic of the problem that our elites are in a bubble that is like utterly unrepresentative of the American people, except for Mark Wayne Mullen.
That doesn't mean she learned anything about economics or the way the world works or anything else.
This is the same woman who stopped Amazon from coming to the New York City suburbs, which got rid of, I think it was, I think they were going to hire 30,000 people who then know, did not get jobs in New York.
But Nate, to your point, at 28, that you've never seen one of these shows, Vince Vaughn made a little commentary on how ridiculous these shows have gotten because of the partisan nature.
They were going to evangelical people to what they thought.
You know what I mean?
And so people just rejected it because it didn't feel authentic.
It felt like they had an agenda.
It stopped being funny and it started feeling like I was in a class I didn't want to take.
But if you look at what happened to the talk shows and why their ratings are low, it's got only to do with the fact of what you just said, which is they all became the same show.
You know, I know at 28, you can't imagine that these shows were once good, but man, Pa is still a little younger than me, too.
But like, they were good a long time ago.
Johnny Carson Tonight Show was amazing and it brought us together.
Nate, it's just a, it's just a perfect example of why culture feels so rotten.
I mean, all these kids that you talk to or these crazy people you talk to on the streets, it's because they're watching a lot of this crap and it's making everybody crazy.
Well, I do want to say I did grow up seeing, I was the youngest of two brothers and we did have those shows on, you know, Colbert and Fallon and whatnot.
They were nothing like this though.
Trump broke their brains.
This was not the way it was before 2016.
So I had seen the shows and I, the job description is to make people laugh.
And then they change the job description or they stop doing their job.
One of my theories is that young people getting their news from social media is not really like the end of the world that people make it out to be.
Because unlike when you see something on like a fancy set that obviously costs, you know, billions of dollars to create, that you have like actual corporations spending millions of dollars on ads to be alongside that content.
When somebody sees, like encounters Theo Vaughan telling them something or some TikTok influencer who's like, guys, I just learned the craziest thing and then tells them like something about the world.
Like their instinct is not to be like, wow, that's crazy.
Their instinct is to be like, wow, that's crazy.
I wonder if that is true.
Like that there's a kind of built-in skepticism to the informality of social media and that young people are much more likely to be like those kids in that the beach video that the spring breakers that Fox put out than they are like, you know, AOC people who like truly believe like totally wrong things as a young person.
It's very easy to go down rabbit holes and get to the bottom of things.
So when you see one of my videos, you'll likely see one of Caitlin Bennett's videos or one of Nick Shirley's videos.
And you can just naturally kind of go down this rabbit hole of boots on the ground journalism.
And I think, you know, what I try to do in all my videos is show receipts for, you know, if I'm making a claim, you know, this protester is paid and I've shown their salaries and I show it.
And, you know, people can look it up as well.
They type their name, look at their 990 forms.
And that's why the comments often say, like, look, yeah, I checked.
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Well, one of the guys who is an online influencer, who might be, I'm going to call it, he's the worst person on the internet, on the entire internet is Hassan Hassan Piker.
I used to work with this clown many lifetimes ago.
He was at the Young Turks and all he was was Jank, that this grotesque ogre.
He was just his nephew and he was harassing all the girls at the office and he was an entitled buffoon who tied up his pit bull to a tree while we were playing basketball and it ripped up the grass at the school.
But anyway, that's a sidebar.
He's just a horrible, horrible human being.
He makes hundreds of thousands of dollars a month on Twitch while saying the most vile things.
He tases his dogs.
He lies about everything.
He's a LARPing communist while he's sitting in a multi-million dollar home.
All of the usual stuff.
Anyway, him and those lovely people from Code Pink, they visited Cuba the other day.
I mean, to me, the dog thing was really like, I know I'm supposed to hate him because of all of his like, you know, you know, views, but the, the, the shocking, the dog and the dog whelping.
And that's why when he says the thing about, oh, it's 75 and the people just want to party, it's because that's, to whatever extent that that's true, that they're just out on the streets partying because the weather's nice, it's because they have nothing else to do.
There's nothing else they can do.
So they may have some resilience as human beings surviving that.
But I would recommend that he comes to Calleocho here in Miami and talk to some of the Cubans who escaped the communist regime and see what they think about it.
And I assure you, the conversation will not go as well.
Of course, the building that he was broadcasting from where the internet went out in the middle of that was the only building in the local area that had any electricity at that time.
Take a look.
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So this is Cuba, and there is no electricity anywhere because there's no oil, there's no energy.
And this is what it looks like.
Except that hotel, because it's a five-star hotel.
So what does it say that, okay, right, the code pink people?
I mean, everyone who's on every wrong issue on everything showed up there together.
What does it tell you that, okay, fine, they could be wrong about some of the American stuff, but what did, what do you think they thought, right?
Like, what do you think they thought?
They were going to get there and somehow they were going to expose something that was going to make them look better that they were going to, what do they, you think they thought, oh, we're going to show up and this will be proof that America did it to these people in essence, something like that.
Apparently, they also brought some amount of humanitarian aid with them.
Although, of course, it paled in comparison to the amount of energy that they themselves sucked up while being there.
I mean, the whole thing is just an insult to like, you know, humanity, right?
That being on that bus with their phones up passing by totally broke people, every single one of whom would trade places with the poorest American for an opportunity to be here.
And they are there trying to say, this life is good enough for them, is better, in fact, is more wholesome.
Let us paint a mural for you because what poor people need is the artistic endeavors of Hassan Piker.
I mean, it's so delicious, but again, inextricable from the Jimmy Kimmel clip, right?
They have utter contempt for people who work with their hands for a living.
They would never dream of doing that.
So we should have an open border, allow people from failed socialist states to come here and do those jobs so they can feel good about hiring somebody to clean their toilets because that person surely would rather be cleaning their toilet than back in their home country, unless that home country is the enemy of the American people, in which case they must stay there, right?
They must stay there and be utterly, utterly broke and poor.
I would pay money to have him show up here and come to Little Cuba and go to Calleocho and sit with some of these people.
The guys that I play basketball with, out of 20 guys, it's probably like 15 Cubans.
They are so happy that Donald Trump is on the verge of doing something major in Cuba, which would be sort of a culmination of Marco Rubio's life.
And these people are just absurd.
I just want to show you one other thing that perfectly illustrates what you just said right there.
There's a guy by the name of Augustin Antonetti.
He's a local reporter.
So he originally posted this in Spanish.
This is the translation.
And there's a video there.
The members of Pablo Iglesias and Hassan Piker's VIP flotilla throw food at Cuban children to make them dance while they record videos for their social media.
They've already crossed all the limits.
They think they're dealing with animals.
Cuba is not a safari for foreigners.
And well, actually, one more.
Here are the code pink ladies.
And look at them just taking photos.
I mean, quite literally, I went to, I took my kids to Lion Park Safari in like a little bit outside of Orlando not too long ago.
I mean, that's what it looked like if you just replaced it with, you know, elephants and zebras.
And my viewers graciously donate to a security fund that I have because it's just, as you can see with Nick, you know, he spent $15,000 in three days because of the amount of threats that we're getting.
It's insane.
And this particular event, well, there's no record of any permit.
I couldn't find any permit about it.
And when I walked in to just ask a question, you know, I was shoved toward the wall and the police had to escort me out.
And I'm saying, look, this is a public place.
And then they say that it's not safe for me to go through there.
And it's just, it's a very, it was a very sad day in New York, I have to say.
You know, it's interesting, though, because it reminds me of what we've seen in the UK, where they have these huge jihadist rallies, and then, you know, one guy shows up with, you know, a British flag or an Israeli flag or just something that's not a Hamas flag.
And they usually arrest or kick out that guy as opposed to dealing with the mob.
I mean, by, I suspect, even though you, again, don't want me to think New York City is as bad as I believe it to be, that you don't see that turning around.
Like, they're going to keep pushing out the good people on these things when it comes to these rallies, right?
What I would say is, what I think was really important about this, we had a wave of Islamist violence in America in March, right?
There were four attacks, five attackers, all five of them naturalized citizens.
We need to have a conversation about that.
I would urge people against seeing this as like anti-Semitic violence.
Nate, I'm curious to hear your thought on this, but you're not more under threat than Nick Shirley is, right?
He's just a white Christian kid.
I think that Jews have been, we're getting the white treatment from the left.
We're getting the treatment that MAGA voters and working class people got, which is you're subhuman because you're white.
I don't think this is an anti-Semitic wave.
We have the honor of being part of a group that is hated by the worst people on the planet.
They hate the Jews and they hate white Americans and they hate Christians and they hate anyone in the MAGA coalition, even if they're black or Hispanic or whatever.
And I think that we should wear that with pride.
And that's why I'm not afraid.
I don't feel that people in New York would be more against me for my being Jewish if they knew that I really like Trump, which I do, then you would be like, okay, then you're sort of fair game.
So I would just urge Jews against seeing ourselves as some like, you know, oppressed minority in America.
We have never been an oppressed minority in America and we are still not an oppressed minority in America.
We have the privilege of being hated like our fellow Americans by the people who deserve everybody's condemnation and we should wear that with pride.
I think this is, look, what I saw in the UK is a preview of what could have happened here, what can happen here.
It's completely unrecognizable.
I urge anyone just to check out, go to London yourself if you can and see.
It's not the London you grew up with.
It's not the London you recognize.
I spoke to people who are on government benefits for six years and can't speak English, all Muslim people that I spoke to.
And you can see that the first version of this is a takeover via just having more children.
And if this parliament vote just went through saying that they're going to consider this mass deportations, if that goes through, it's not going to go over nicely.
There's going to be the second option, which is what we saw in March.
And well, I mean, first off, the fact that whether it gets passed or not in the UK or in most of these Western European nations, whether a law gets passed or not, I mean, whether they're going to have the wherewithal to go ahead and actually deport.
And as Bhatya pointed out, all of the terrorist attacks, I mean, again, five people, five Islamist terror attacks in the last month, and they're all naturalized citizens.
So that's a whole secondary problem that nobody wants to address.
But I thought we could wrap up on something slightly sillier than this week in terror, because we can always do that, which is a bunch of college students in Clearwater, Florida were asked some basic civics questions, and this went mega viral.
They're drunk and being silly and we shouldn't think too much about it.
Or do you genuinely think there really is a problem?
Like, education has just gotten so bad that really, if you ask the average kid, the average 25-year-old, you know, who was the first president, who won the Civil War, like some basic stuff that they would have no freaking idea.
The best evidence that I've seen from that on the street is, you know, the most popular job of paid protesters and not paid protesters are teachers, teachers at high-ranking institutions.
I expose just a fifth-grade teacher who's a paid protester who was put on a 10-day suspension saying resistance is justified and saying that the Zionists are coming after him.
Everything has become so politicized.
Even the fifth grade teacher is bringing politics into the crisis.