Dave Rubin and Michael Knowles dissect the political landscape, starting with Columbus Day debates where Knowles defends Christopher Columbus against Kamala Harris's renaming push. They analyze J.D. Vance's claims linking Donald Trump to Aurora gang violence and the housing crisis caused by undocumented immigrants, while mocking Tim Walz's awkward pheasant hunt performance as evidence of Democratic pandering. The discussion highlights shifting polling data, Anna Kasparian's exit from the Democratic Party after a racist accusation, and growing endorsements from Elon Musk and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., suggesting a significant realignment in American politics. [Automatically generated summary]
They are trying to take him out, as they always do.
We've got some videos of this avatar AI woman who wants to be president, Kamala Harris, and some of the things she's said about Columbus and America over the years, which we'll get to in a moment.
But before we do, I thought, Michael, especially in light of having you on, a noted expert in Christopher Columbus and indigenous people and all of those things, I thought we could play a quick video about Christopher Columbus himself.
It's an amazing story because people don't even understand the pre-story.
The pre-story, what we've been told in recent decades, is that Christopher Columbus was this greedy, rapacious idiot who thought that he could go east by going west.
And he thought he was going to go find the Indians, but he stumbled upon a bunch of Native Americans, and then rape killed, pillaged, and burned, and enriched himself, and that was that.
This man came from basically nothing, was mostly self-educated, was deeply religious.
In as much as he was seeking wealth, he was seeking wealth to fund another crusade to stop the Muslims from oppressing Christians in the Holy Land.
Which is a thesis advanced by the historian Carol Delaney.
He made it across the ocean blue using nothing but dead reckoning.
So this guy, I don't even think he had an astrolabe.
He was using the stars to navigate.
He did a pretty good job of things.
He landed. He meets the Taino Indians.
He instructed his men not to be cruel to the Indians, not to take advantage of the Indians.
He discovered cigars.
I'm quite a big fan. I have my Mayflower cigars right here.
Speaking of tobacco in the Western Hemisphere, Yes, excellent product placement.
Thank you so much. Then he establishes this colonial experiment in the New World.
He converts the natives to Christianity, which some of us still think is a good thing, actually, because there were all sorts of terrible practices in the New World, including cannibalism being practiced by the Carib Islanders.
And then, by the way, the stuff that they accuse him of doing, which was so terrible, you know, the enslavement and the encomienda system and all the rest of it, Ironically, is mostly stuff the man did not do, that he told his men not to do, and that actually only occurred because he got outfoxed by his political rivals in the New World, and the Spanish crown pinned it on him in part because they didn't want to pay him the money that they owed him.
So he ends up going back to Spain in chains, but so deep was his faith that he felt that everyone would get theirs in the life to come.
Even down to, Dave, this is the part that drives me the craziest.
An ideological attack on Columbus for somehow oppressing Hispanic people.
Hispanic people would not exist without Christopher Columbus, because Hispanic people are the product of Europeans and indigenous Native Americans.
If you like Hispanic people, if that's all you like about the Americans, you have Christopher Columbus to thank.
For those of you that want more on this, one year ago today, I think it was, Michael and I did a show all about, an hour-long show all about Christopher Columbus.
We are going to do a normal show and catch up with all the craziness of the last couple days, and I assure you there was Plenty over the weekend.
But before we do, one other thing on Columbus Day.
Here are two videos.
One is from 2000 and one is from 2021 of Kamala Harris, the woman who wants to be president, being asked about Columbus Day or some called Indigenous Peoples Day, etc.
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Take a look. Do you support efforts on a federal level to change Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples Day?
Yeah. And why it matters is, to your very point, we have to remember history.
And this question, I think, really is connected to the last question about our morals and our compass and our goals and our aspirations.
We have to remember our history.
Uncomfortable, to your point about truths, It is an honor, of course, to be with you this week as we celebrate Indigenous People's Day, as we speak truth about our nation's history.
Since 1934, every October, the United States has recognized the voyage of the European explorers who first landed on the shores of the Americas.
But that is not the whole story.
That has never been the whole story.
Those explorers ushered in a wave of devastation for tribal nations, perpetrating violence, stealing land, and spreading disease.
Quick correction there. I think I said 2000 in 2021.
It was obviously 2020 in 2021.
Michael, you watch these videos of her now, and they're the exact same thing we're getting out of her right this moment, which is endless drivel, circuitous logic, talking in circles, Venn diagrams, everything else.
But more to the heart of what she's getting at, that somehow the founding of this country was evil and we should pay for it.
That has so taken hold of a particular political party in this country.
And I'm starting to think that actually might be a danger for the experiment here.
Only a handful of apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs and Donald Trump is the problem and not Kamala Harris' open border.
Americans are so fed up with what's going on and they have every right to be.
And I really find this exchange Martha, sort of interesting because you seem to be more focused with nitpicking everything that Donald Trump has said, rather than acknowledging that apartment complexes in the United States of America are being taken over by violent gangs.
I worry so much more about that problem than anything else here.
If this story, for those who haven't followed it, is that a Venezuelan prison gang took over Aurora, Colorado, and now controls multiple apartment buildings in this Colorado town, and ABC News' response, the liberal establishment media response, is to say, hey, it's only a few buildings.
The Venezuelan prison gang only took over a few buildings.
It shows you that even when we're talking about Violent prison gangs from foreign countries, people who shouldn't be here, they have to be right.
Our enemies have to be right.
The other guy always has to be right.
We always have to be in the wrong.
And so you're gonna see this echo throughout all of history.
When Hernan Cortes conquers the Aztec Empire, the Aztec Empire that was cutting out victims still beating hearts and kicking their bodies down the temple at Tenochtitlan to the tune of some 80,000 people in four days.
We're talking about people like the Carib Islanders who practiced ritual cannibalism, or the Iroquois, or many other Native Americans who practiced ritual cannibalism, including cannibalism of babies, according to some historical accounts.
They still have to be right.
We have to be wrong.
We have to be wrong as Christopher Columbus, as Cortez, as the pilgrims on the Mayflower, the Founding Fathers have to be wrong.
Ordinary Americans today who don't want Venezuelan gangs taking over their town, we have to be in the wrong.
It's as though the left started with the conclusion and then they just backfill the evidence.
I think it's a fair question because we know that back in the 1960s when we had very low levels of illegal immigration, Americans didn't buy houses, didn't build houses.
But of course they did.
And I'm being sarcastic, of course, in service of a point, Lulu, the assumption that because a large number of homebuilders now are using undocumented labor...
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The country is much bigger.
The need is much bigger.
I mean, I'm not arguing in favor of illegal immigration.
I'm asking how you would deal with the knock-on effect of your proposal to remove millions of people who work in a critical part of the economy.
Well, I think that what you would do is you would take, let's say, for example, the 7 million prime-age men who have dropped out of the labor force.
You absolutely could re-engage folks into the American labor market To work in construction?
Of course you could. Think about the perspective of an American company, okay?
I want them to go searching in their own country for their own citizens.
Sometimes people who may be struggling with addiction or trauma, get them re-engaged in American society.
We cannot have an entire American business community that is giving up on American workers and then importing millions of illegal laborers.
That is what we have thanks to Kamala Harris's border policies.
I think it's one of the biggest drivers of inequality.
It's one of the biggest reasons why we have millions of people who have dropped out of the labor force.
Why try to re-engage an American citizen in a good job if you can just import somebody from Central America who's going to work under the table for poverty wages?
It is a disgrace, and it has led to the evisceration of the American middle class.
Michael, before we get to the nuts and bolts on that, I have to say that watching J.D., who I really think in the last two or three months has just leveled up in a really significant way, he sort of is what probably you wanted earlier than I did.
Someone on the right who could calmly explain everything in a sensible way, occasionally using sarcasm, and really exposing the absurdity of these people.
Because when she says, well, I'm not making the argument for illegal immigration, it's like, lady, actually you are.
He can remain calm because he has facts at his disposal, and he has solid first principles, and he has a command of logic so he can come to conclusions.
Really, the most ridiculous part of the interview is that first part where The woman says, we have a shortage of housing in this country, and it's because of all the dastardly Republicans.
And JD says, I think it might have something to do with the 25 million people who aren't supposed to be here.
And this woman says, without a hint of irony.
Well, I actually agree to disagree.
I think a lot of people who look into it don't really agree with you.
Lady, this is not a controversial point.
When you have a certain number of homes and you have a certain number of people, then the housing market is going to correspond to the number of people who are looking for housing.
If you want to make some argument in favor of illegal immigration on top of that, be my guest.
There's also a weird thing where her argument basically, or the lefty argument basically is, oh, if we don't have these people here, we can't build anything.
So it's like they should always remain as sort of kind of quasi-slaves to us.
By the way, Elon Musk just debuted his Optimist Robots in the last couple of days.
We'll have more on that tomorrow. And it's like, dude, those are gonna be building houses and building bridges and a whole bunch of other stuff.
But of course, I think most people watching this know they lie about pretty much everything.
And it's a constant shell game to make you think that MAGA white supremacists are taking over your cities.
This is a wild one.
This is Texas Democrat representative Jasmine Crockett.
And despite all the evidence of the videos we've seen over the last couple of years of gangs overrunning the cities, she seems to think that it's the red hat people.
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He said that we've got these cities and these towns that are being overrun by gangs and the crime is out of control.
I absolutely agree with that.
And guess what? It's the MAGA gang.
It is the white supremacists that have decided to descend upon places such as Springfield, Ohio.
Knowles, I'm but a simple podcaster, an independent operation here, a small staff.
Everyone works very hard. I feed them well.
But we don't have the cracked research team that you have at The Daily Wire, a giant multi-million dollar corporation, obviously, headed by the illustrious Ben Shapiro.
I was unable to find any video of gangs of MAGA people destroying cities.
I do think, however, there are some people who believe it.
Probably not the journos who are spreading the propaganda, but there are low-information voters out there who really believe that the Ku Klux Klan is around every corner.
I think at this point, if there is such a thing as the Ku Klux Klan, I suspect the membership is about 97% federal agents at this point.
I think there's probably one Bubba in the Hill somewhere who's still an earnest member.
That, of course, does not exist.
Illegal aliens from Latin America who have gangs because the cartels control the entire border.
There are terrorist cells in the United States.
One terrorist plot was just foiled a week or so ago.
Islamic terrorist organizations.
Obviously, BLM burned the country to the ground for eight months coast to coast.
We don't really talk about that racial grievance group.
The one group that doesn't appear to be committing terrorism is the non-existent Ku Klux Klan.
Yeah. And when I went to my first Trump rally, which everyone's heard me talk about in Beverly Hills, you know, around 2019 or something, they cleaned up after themselves on top of everything else.
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All right, Knowles, let's go from J.D. Vance, who's doing a bang-up job, I think.
I think you can objectively say that.
I tend to agree with him on the issues, but the guy's just doing a good job right now, versus a guy that, let's say, is doing a slightly less good job, would that be fair to say?
Knowles, can you put on your newsman glasses for this?
Because we're going to analyze a compilation video here, so I just want people to understand that we're...
Anywho, here's a compilation of Tim Walz just kind of not getting it.
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I'm gonna grab a Diet Mountain Dew if we got one.
Oh yeah, let me grab one. So the reason why I think this is worth doing is because remember that one rooster that got up and landed over here, we can take...
He'll be there. Yeah, we can take those pointing dogs from this open cover and try and get that bird.
How many roosters did we see?
7 or 8?
Yeah.
That's my theory.
And it never fits quite right.
It never fits quite right.
It's not quite right.
How do you give it that?
Governor, what kind of gun is it?
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It was a rough week.
I mean, her faves are down.
They're struggling with, I mean, the front page of the New York Times this morning, Democrats struggling with African American voters, particularly African American men.
This gender gap issue Is real.
It's a real problem. And you see the Democrats reacting to it.
And I think what they are now filing in October the election coming to realize is that a lot of men think Democrats care more about dudes who want to become women than dudes who just want to be dudes.
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And no hunting, cosplay, or cringy videos is going to change it.
Right, so you've got him fumbling around, and you know that because everything they do is just so freaking calculated, even the choice to drink Mountain Dew, you know that was calculated, that somehow they were like young dudes who play video games like Mountain Dew when they're playing Fortnite.
Right? You're hopped up on the caffeine, it's like electronic piss, and you drink that and you play the Fortnite.
Speaking of the Minnesota Lynx, very exciting, the WNBA. They kicked out, they basically beat the crap out of Kaitlyn Collins, so she's not in the playoffs anymore.
White, straight chick, what the hell was she doing in that league in the first place?
Here's Tim Walls talking about the very exciting Minnesota Lynx.
That was a shooting. When you're shooting, you want the swan at the end.
You had a great tweet on this.
I thought this was hilarious. Hey, fellow bros, you guys catch the WNBA game last night?
It's like they're just trying so hard to be human.
This will never cease to amaze me that Donald Trump, who is a billionaire, Who is orange, who has the craziest hair ever, and all of his strange way of speaking and everything else, that he is more authentic than Elizabeth Warren, I'm gonna get me a beer, or Kamala Harris trying to be normal.
And they yell in the back and he's like, you guys don't look gay.
And it's like, yes, he's treating you like everybody else.
That's the point. Of course, what they're trying to do, because they really are seeing the numbers, there's two communities they're really struggling with right now.
It's kind of just normal dudes and black men.
Black men are also normal dudes.
That sounded a little weird. There we go.
Now Media Matters is gonna be all over this thing, Knowles.
You get the point. So anyway, they're making all these videos about men for Kamala, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, Babylon Bee had a little fun with that.
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I'm a man. I'm a man.
I'm a man enough to cry while watching The Notebook.
But this thing with men seeing through the fakeness, it's really good for the country, don't you think?
Even sort of putting aside the purely political part, that kind of guys are realizing that they should have a little skin in the game and be involved in their families and everything else.
That's what this really is about.
And the Democrats don't like that because they want people sort of weak and pathetic.
You know, there was that old line, they said, there will never be a war between the sexes because everyone's sleeping with the enemy.
But in the lib world, no one's sleeping with the enemy, and everyone's just kind of alone in their own little pod, I don't know, looking at porn or something like that, but totally isolated.
So the libs want to...
For most of the time, they want to pit men and women against each other and present men as this toxic, terrible threat.
But then they realize that doesn't serve them during a close election come November.
So now all of a sudden they've got to pander to men.
And the crazy part is, They don't even know how.
So you saw the, not the Babylon Bee parody, but the actual Men for Harris ad that the Babylon Bee was making fun of, or you see Tim Walls talking about the WNBA, or even this young man, this young Gen Z Democrat operative, Harry Sison, who tweets out, and he was trying his best.
This guy is paid by Democrats, he's doing his best messaging he can, and he said that Coach Walls used to teach football.
You know, he used to teach those football performers at all the football rehearsals.
Yes, I'm no varsity athlete, but I don't think that's how you do it.
So what the Democrats are realizing is not only have they chosen to make an enemy of men, not only have they spent years attacking men, they no longer even know how to speak the language of men.
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Michael, are you aware that there is an election in about three and a half weeks?
And the bigger country, I mean, this is almost a verbatim quote from her.
I really don't want, I try not to call people stupid or idiots or anything like that because then you're liable to the fire and everything, and I think it's a bad thing to do.
Right. So it's like, okay, maybe we disagree with the policies.
Maybe everyone watching this disagrees with the policies.
And it's also a little hard to say that because no one actually knows what her beliefs are, as you point out.
I keep saying she's basically the first AI candidate.
They've just programmed her to say some things, and they can reprogram her to say other things once she's in office.
But that's not really it. What you're really talking about is, is this a woman that could get into a room and negotiate with people?
Could she negotiate?
I don't know. There are some American hostages under Gaza.
You think she could do that? Is there anything about her that might strike fear into an opponent, let's say?
The other really interesting thing that's happening right now is that she did coup the old man.
There was an elderly man running for president.
Who apparently is still the president.
And she definitely worked with Pelosi and Schumer to coup this guy.
And now there's some tension there.
I'm kind of loving this story.
Check this out from Axios.
Tensions rise between Harris and Biden teams as electioneers.
The relationship between Kamala Harris's team and Joe Biden's White House has been increasingly fraught in the final weeks before Election Day.
Ten people familiar with the situation tell Axios.
They're too much in their feelings, one close Harris ally said of the president's team, a sentiment shared even by some White House aides, driving the news.
Some on the Harris team say that the top White House aides aren't sufficiently coordinating Biden's messaging and schedule to align with what's best for the vice president's campaign.
Biden gave an impromptu press conference in the White House briefing room Friday, just as Harris was about to do an event in Michigan, ensuring that her event would get less TV coverage than it otherwise would have.
Earlier in the week, Harris criticized Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for not taking her call about the recent hurricanes, only for Biden to praise DeSantis soon after for being gracious and cooperative.
Several Biden aides have joined Harris' campaign, but some feel like they've been labeled as disloyal by Biden's team for leaving or even considering it.
On Harris' campaign, there's also awkwardness between some who were on Biden's original campaign staff and Harris' allies who've been installed in recent weeks.
Some on Harris' team are wary of the Biden campaign crew they're now working with.
Knowles, I really was...
Seeing this very clearly last week as it pertained to the calls, obviously I'm here in Florida, and the way that Biden was going out of his way to praise DeSantis as she was implying that he's not taking her calls.
It seems to me that a beautiful ending of the Joe Biden story is right at the end, his brain going back online and taking out Kamala Harris, who again, I believe, I don't know if you believe it, you know, basically threatened him with the 25th Amendment, and that's how we got in this situation.
Well, he obviously hates her and he's hated her for a long time.
I agree, Dave.
Right now, Joe Biden is one of Donald Trump's best surrogates.
You saw it especially when he undermined Kamala down in Florida.
It was so clear.
I actually don't think we're even exaggerating.
When he came out and he said, oh yeah, DeSantis is doing a great job.
I'm working with him directly.
He has my cell number.
That was intentional.
I don't care how declined he is.
So you got to rewind it back to 2020.
Kamala Harris's entire presidential campaign came down to her calling Joe Biden racist on a debate stage.
And it boxed Biden into a corner.
He had to pick a black woman. The only three serious options at the time were Karen Bass, who's an actual communist, Susan Rice, who was the fall man for Benghazi, Kamala Harris, totally unimpressive, but she was the best of the three at that time.
So he had to pick her.
But from the beginning, this guy obviously hated this woman.
Then she took his job from him.
And so if you're Joe Biden, Mm-hmm.
of ousting you from your nomination.
So the real vindication for Biden is if Trump wins and he can say, yeah, I could have beat Trump.
I'm the only one of these people that ever actually has beaten Trump.
Hillary didn't beat him.
It was only me. And you jerks should have stuck with me because I was doing a great job, and this woman was a lot worse.
So he has every incentive to do it, and I think he's acting on it.
That's exactly why I think there's something so beautiful happening in this kayfabe story that we're all part of right now.
Like, who knows how degraded he really is and does he really know what's going on and all of that stuff, and whether it's Jill or whoever behind him.
But the fact that something weird is brewing there, it's actually, it's poetic justice and exactly what she deserves.
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Well, they say a Freudian slip is where you say one thing but me and your mother.
I live in the place with the allergy capital of the world.
I also have some kind of little cold, and I have measured, since I was a kid, my nose range is from E to about F sharp, and I think you heard a stellar high point of my range in that commercial break.
It's the, what do they call it, the Romanesque Italian nose that you have?
Yeah, that's a polite way to put it.
Anyway, let's dive into some numbers because even on CNN, and you guys have heard of CNN, it used to be a news organization, it's mostly a clown show now, they are realizing that the numbers are not looking good for...
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All right, so party ID nationally.
You go to October, November of 2016, Democrats had a three-point advantage.
So, Nose, I think that's a little bit of the evidence you were looking for.
I mean, the reason I like that poll, and my audience knows I'm not huge on polls, and I think they can be manipulated and paid for and all that, but something about national registration tells you something outside of just, ah, I hate the orange man, or I don't like the crazy Marxist lady.
Like, there's actually something underneath all that.
To me, I share some of your skepticism of polls, Dave, some are better than others, but Look at how the Kamala campaign, probably reacting to internal polling that we're not even seeing, is reacting right now.
She's made a 180 degree turn on her position vis-a-vis Joe Biden.
Previously, she said in her debate with Trump, I'm not Joe Biden.
I represent a new generation of leadership.
Now she comes out, she says, I wouldn't have done one thing differently.
I'm going to be Joe Biden's second term.
So that suggests that her strategy wasn't working.
Forcing Tim Walz out there to go become the man for Kamala.
That's a change in strategy.
Kamala going out and doing interviews, period, is a change in strategy.
Even though she's not very good at them, they realize they have to do something.
So to me, that says the internals of the campaign are looking really, really bad right now.
Then you look at Michigan. The fact that Trump There's a world in which Trump wins this election and doesn't even need to win Pennsylvania.
So the Democrats can play around in that Philadelphia machine.
They can stuff the ballot boxes for all we care.
Even in that situation, I still hope Republicans win Pennsylvania.
Things might be looking so good for Republicans, we don't even need it.
Of course, what the Democrats do have is the machine.
And here's a compilation of the machine doing what it does to Trump and all of those red hat-wearing people.
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I did not realize when I said that, that he would actually go on television and say, I'm going to use the military to round up my political enemies.
When I said that, General Flynn, who's going to be very senior in this administration, didn't say that the gates of hell will reign on my political enemies.
When I said that, I didn't know that he was going to schedule a rally at Madison Square Garden to mimic the Nazi rally of 10 February 1939.
If you're a young black male and Trump-inspired army roundup of people, how well do you think you're going to do in that?
You think you got nothing to lose?
How about looking at American history for one time and see what can happen here?
Trump today posted a picture of Hispanic men with face tattoos and said, these are going to be your apartment managers if Kamala Harris is elected.
That's a racist appeal.
Every American who ever took high school history class knows that when you're talking about vermin, you're talking about bloodlines, when you're talking about people being conquered, and Trump promising today to liberate Colorado, This sounds like Nazi rhetoric.
This sounds like fascist rhetoric.
It sounds like white supremacist rhetoric.
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Just to be very clear, he hasn't released all of his medical records.
He released two letters. Should he release the results of the cognitive test?
It's unnecessary. He's on display every minute.
So it's unnecessary. You can see that he didn't release his medical records.
You don't want to know things like his cholesterol level, whether he's dealing with any issue that we may not know about, if he's going to be commander-in-chief.
And he also said he would release cognitive tests.
Kristen, listen to your question. Should he release that?
Kristen, the American people don't care about the cholesterol level of Donald Trump.
Yeah. I mean, the face tattoo thing, for those of you that didn't see it over the weekend, maybe we'll show you the full clip tomorrow.
But basically, he's doing a rally and he's talking about these MS gang members who have face tattoos and they're taking over buildings.
This is all really happening.
It's partly related to that Martha Raddatz clip we showed you earlier.
And it's being clipped online in such a way that implies that he's talking about immigrants.
And he's not talking about immigrants. He's talking about the actual...
Gang members, you morons.
Not you people. I meant the wider moron community.
Let's jump over to something else.
I was a little conflicted about doing this segment, Michael, because it involves a former colleague of mine and somebody that was a very, very good friend of mine who since I left the left, you know, now like 10 years ago, Has said completely awful things about me repeatedly.
I don't know that I've ever mentioned her on the show before, maybe once or twice when I've been asked a specific question.
But Young Turk's co-host, it's a far-left progressive network for those of you that don't know it, Anna Kasparian, she's a co-host along with Cenk Uygur, and she has officially left the Democrat Party.
And this video is going viral.
Elon retweeted and a whole bunch of other people did, and I thought it was kind of interesting.
I mean, many of the things she's being accused of by those crazy people are the same exact things she's accused me of.
But let's just leave that for a moment.
I am always very enthused when someone wakes up.
And it's interesting that it takes something so personal, like, say, a drug-addicted homeless guy with a boner attacking you that will get people to wake up.
So I would say that that is a net good.
And now, really, it's just about entropy to realize that the rest of the world view is incorrect.
Back in the day, during the first wave of the neocons, now we have kind of the later stage neocons who are far inferior to the early ones.
Initially though, neocon just meant a new conservative, someone who had been a liberal or even a Trotskyite, even a communist.
And then became a conservative.
And why? They said, because a neocon is one who has been mugged by reality.
And in the case of Anna Kasparian, she was truly almost mugged and actually sexually molested.
And it could have gotten even worse than that.
So that really happened to her. And she's explaining that reality.
And her comrades are saying, don't you dare talk about reality.
Reality is really bad for our argument.
It makes us look bad. It knocks down our fantasies.
So she is, I don't know, she's probably not a conservative now.
She's probably not a right winger, but she's starting to see, wow, there's a problem on the left.
And so I agree with you, Dave.
She said all sorts of nasty things about me too.
It's okay. It's all right. Don't worry.
There before the grace of God go all of us.
Just keep going. That's my advice to all of these people.
All of the Bobby Kennedy Democrats who are now supporting Trump I've seen your evolution pretty close up.
You were a serious left winger.
And when you switched, you became a little bit more, say, classically liberal or something.
You know, you said, there's something wrong with the left here.
But I predicted at the time, you know, I hate to say I told you so.
You did. It's on video. You're going to end up more right-wing than any of us.
I mean, you're going to be like Attila the Hun.
And what? You have become more conservative.
You did make some difference. Why is that?
You know why? It's because you're following your ideas, you're pursuing ideas honestly, and you're following your ideas to their logical conclusions.
Ideas have a kind of natural logic to them, and so you've been honest with yourself, and you say, okay, well, actually, I'm going to move a little further to the right.
Actually, yeah, maybe here, I'm going to support a Republican candidate, so on and so forth.
I hope that's the same for her, but in order for that to happen, you have to be willing to give up A lot.
You've got to give up your social circle, probably, because the left is vindictive.
You've got to give up some of your deeply held beliefs when you find out that maybe they were wrong.
And you've got to be willing to go into an area that you have been told for your whole life is filled with Nazis and murderers and racists and, you know, it's bunk.
But you have to have the courage of your convictions to say, huh, I'm going to try out these ideas and see if they're closer to reality than what I used to believe.
Well, I have to say, Knowles, first off, credit where credit's due.
I mean, you did say that to me years ago, and I think it's sort of borne out to be true.
But I would also say that, you know, part of it in going to that new land, the new undiscovered country, whatever you want to call it, is that you suddenly are like, wait a minute.
I'm hanging out with Larry Elder and Dennis Prager and Ben Shapiro and Michael Knowles and Jordan Peterson and all these people and they're all kind and nice and decent and you can break bread with them and drink whiskey with them even though I'd rather you drink tequila and they're fine human beings and they can agree to disagree so I agree we don't have to make it personal about her in any way if she's willing to now go down that path I think that there could potentially be a lot of goodness there and by the way A lot of people do go down that path.
For those of you watching this that are still on the fence one way or another, changing your views, evolving, it's kind of good.
And my friend Sage Steele was on stage with J.D. Vance this weekend talking about just that, as it pertained to J.D.'s previous criticisms of Donald Trump, the guy he's running with right now.
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And you got the inevitable question about how you had previously felt and talked about Donald Trump.
Yep. And what did he say?
He said, I screwed up.
I've changed my mind, basically.
That's called accountability because you owned it.
And I really think that that was overlooked because nobody else on the other ticket will ever admit it's okay to grow.
If you're Elon Musk, there are real stakes to your business if Kamala Harris wins.
Not just because she's going to try to personally destroy him with the IRS, but also there are real risks to how you're going to grow your business.
There are real risks to ordinary Americans in terms of the security of our communities.
Are we going to be flooded with illegal aliens at a border controlled by the cartels?
There are real risks to your kids.
You send your kid to school now.
I think it's one in 30 American high school students, these numbers just came out from the CDC, identify as transgender.
One in 18 questions his gender.
So you think, look, either there is something in the water turning the frickin' frogs gay, or more likely, this is a curriculum, well, there's probably that too, but there's also this curriculum that's being pushed that tells kids, Hey, you should identify as the opposite sex.
And again, this is no knock on anyone who's sexually confused or whatever, but those numbers are simply statistically impossible.
So this is being pushed. It's pushing kids into interventions that will sterilize them, that could shorten their lives, that make it much more likely that they're anxious and depressed and suicidal.
I mean, this is urgent stuff for your kids.
And, you know, all the way down to Kamala Harris is going to get rid of Columbus Day.
Okay? Really basic American tradition.
So at a certain point, you've got to say, look, even though I don't really agree with Trump on a lot of stuff, I'm not one of these Tweety, bow-tie-wearing conservatives or whatever, you think, at the very least, I'm not with her.
This is way too far.
And so where does that leave you?
It's a binary election. Maybe you end up going with the orange guy.
Right, and maybe now he has a cast of characters around him that are so wide in ideology and so rich in skill, like Elon and a bunch of these other tech guys that are joining him now and everything else, that it might actually restore America.
Perhaps, maybe I'm crazy, but if I am, let me show you a video of two other potentially crazy guys.
Michael Schellenberger, who has been a lefty his entire life, entire life, California lefty, he went on Joe Rogan to talk about how radical the left has become.
So well known because of the UFC and he does a great job with that, right?
What was it that made Joe the best?
During COVID, you know, he was very outspoken on all the corruption going on during COVID. And I think that's personally when I started watching him a lot too.
He's an honest guy too, right?
He is. Good guy.
Good guy. And I think you guys together would just be...
Yeah. So look, we'll see whether Rogan actually makes the full move and fully supports him or whatever else, but the message he's sending to his audience clearly is that...
Knowles, the reason I wanted to show that clip, though, was not just to tease that he's gonna be on there, but I like that Trump's sort of response about it is like, what made him big?
Like, you can see what drives Trump, and success is what drives Trump.
And I think that that's the thing that now is attracting so many people, say, Elon Musk and RFK and the rest of them, to this thing.
And by the way, the fact that Elon Musk and RFK have endorsed Trump does make it more possible for Joe to do it.
Because Joe Rogan is one of the most consequential people in the country.
When you say, I don't know if it would move people, you know, it certainly wouldn't move Texas, probably.
Joe Rogan endorsing Donald Trump would move a lot of people.
This is one of the most important communicators in the country.
And it's because he is a pretty normal guy.
He's a guy who has complex political views.
Some of them are in tension with one another.
But he strikes you as an honest broker.
He's obviously a very talented communicator.
And so, yeah, that really does matter.
Why has Joe not had Trump on yet?
Because it's a huge risk, because the libs threaten to completely destroy you if you in any way suggest that the man's not Hitler.
I mean, Jimmy Fallon, think about how they raked him over the coals because he told some jokes on a late night show on NBC. Trump's been on NBC late night shows since the 80s, okay?
And so there's a huge risk for Rogan.
It sounds like he's willing to take that risk now because If all of a sudden you got guys like Elon, guys like Bobby Kennedy, for goodness sakes, he's a Kennedy, and he's a pretty prominent Kennedy, who are saying, no, this Trump, he's not so bad, it not only has the effect of having a person with some authority endorse someone, it opens up the realm of discourse for the guy at his water cooler to say, hey, I actually don't think Trump is Hitler, and I'm not crazy.
I'm not minimizing what him actually pulling the lever would be.
To me, it's so obvious that he's a Trump supporter.
It's what's consistently talked about on his show across the board from UFC guys to, you know, magic mushroom people and the rest of it.
But you might be right that him actually just saying it, not just sort of dancing around it, but actually saying it might be the thing that cracks the ice a little bit more.
So we shall see if he gets there.
Knowles, what else are you doing today? Do you have a job?