Ashley St. Clair exposes alleged border irregularities, claiming Border Patrol aids migrants in falsifying asylum claims while burning IDs to bypass screenings before flying them to sanctuary cities. She connects this to a "war on women," arguing coerced birth control fuels depression and that modern feminism is a Marxist ideology eroding femininity. St. Clair further links Gen Z's mental health crisis to transhumanism and critiques the GOP for failing to address healthcare scams, ultimately framing these issues as symptoms of a systemic collapse driven by progressive overreach. [Automatically generated summary]
You know, you see all these stories from the left of the women and children and crying, and it was very sad to see those.
There were some cases of that, but primarily military-age men coming across from all over.
Our border is an open border to the world.
We've seen a 900 increase in Chinese nationals, mostly men.
We're seeing an increase in people from the Middle East, from Africa, from all over, primarily men.
But back to your question on what happens at these processing facilities, They cross the border, Border Patrol is literally helping them cut the barbed wire, lifting the barbed wire, and they cross the border, and they all gather in this spot, and they're taken in a bus to the processing facilities, and they're saying, every single one of them is saying, we claim asylum, because they're told how to do this over in South America.
at these NGOs.
So they claim asylum, they write down a sponsor, which most of the time is not real, or they list an NGO as a sponsor, and then they're left out.
They're sent out.
They know exactly which NGOs to go to.
They're given court dates into the 2030s.
So, okay, well, you know, we'll figure it out in a decade from now.
Clair, I said to you when I walked in the room, when's the last time we saw each other?
Because we both exist in this weird world where you don't know the last time you've seen someone because we see each other through screens all the time, but apparently we saw each other in real life.
I've mentioned you a bunch on the show, and we've shown a lot of things that you've done on social media because you're very much in the mix of kind of what's going on culturally and particularly on this immigration front.
But for the people that have no idea who Ashley St.
I am a children's book author, the author of Elephants Are Not Birds, and I also work at the Babylon Bee.
I help Seth with operations down there.
I'm not paid to be funny since I'm a woman, but I am also currently working on a documentary On the war on women, on birth control, and the effects of birth control on women.
But I really focus a lot on... I do independent journalism, so I've been on this border beat for a little bit.
Yeah, and you sometimes seem to just kind of step in it, so to speak, because one time you were traveling and you just happened to see some migrants at the Phoenix airport.
Look, I think the barbarians are at the gate, right, when it comes to these cities of ours that have so much history.
And it does make me very sad that we give a lot of our cities that have so much history over to the leftists so willingly.
For example, New York City, we didn't lose the governor's race by that much.
The margin was very similar to the number of people who fled and left during COVID.
And when I'm able to walk down the block and I'm able to go to the place that George Washington was rallying the troops, to me it's really sad that we're abandoning that history, while simultaneously crying about them tearing down the statues of our founding fathers, while voluntarily giving up so much of our history.
I do love New York.
I think there's hope for it, but you know, my family's there too.
I do think people are getting fed up, and what I think is really important is it's going to take more people like you who are more center or center-right to speak up, or even people who are a little bit center-left, especially in the tech industry and these primarily leftist industries, speaking up and saying, hey, none of this is normal or okay.
It's going to take normal people feeling empowered to speak up because when you have these one-on-one conversations with the mothers of New York or the parents in New York City, they are fed up.
They don't think any of this is okay.
Bipartisan, none of them think, you know, migrants flooding our city is okay.
None of them think what's happening in our schools is okay.
So I am optimistic that it could change should we be able to empower people to feel confident enough that they're not going to be canceled for wrong things.
So you were in the Phoenix airport, this is about two or three months ago or so, and you saw some things that you thought were a bit curious, and you posted some images, you took some videos, so we'll play some B-roll while you're explaining what happened there.
So I was leaving the Turning Point AmFest event, and at the Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport, I was taking a late-night red-eye flight.
I believe it was 11 p.m.
at night, and I've been down to the border several times.
I've interviewed these migrants at the processing facilities, and the processing facilities are where, when you illegally cross the border, that's where Border Patrol will take you to be processed.
Once you leave these facilities, you have a clear bag that has paperwork, your court dates, any identification if you didn't bury or burn it at the border.
And when I went to Phoenix Sky Harbor, I see at my flight, at my gate, an entire line, most of the flight, is full of migrants with these processing center bags.
And the first thing that went through my head was my two-year-old son.
I said, because I know that so many of them are not properly screened medically.
So I go and I ask a Delta rep, I said, oh, are these people being screened medically?
That was my only concern at the time, because Delta's not going to be able to, you know, say, oh, well, you're not here legally, whatever.
So there's a lot there, but let's back up to something you said earlier, which is that you've been to the board and you've been to the processing facilities, and you also mentioned whether they bury or burn their IDs.
That actually works to their advantage to do that, does it not?
So what happens is, and Allie Bradley is a fantastic border reporter who speaks on this a lot, but what they do is they will bury and burn their IDs at the border because one, either they've claimed asylum somewhere else and they're not supposed to be claiming it here, or two, they don't want you knowing who they are.
So when you go to the southern border, you will see this.
Buried and burned IDs, passports, IDs, previous asylum claims all across the border.
That should be enough to concern us in itself.
But then, to board these flights, they don't have to have any ID, some of them.
They're using arrest warrants.
They're using, you know, appearances to show up to the court dates as their identification.
It is primarily military-age men who are coming across.
And I expected to see... I went in with an open mind.
You know, you see all these stories from the left of the women and children and crying, and it was very sad to see those.
There were some cases of that.
Primarily military age men coming across from all over.
Our border is an open border to the world.
We've seen a 900 increase in Chinese nationals, mostly men.
We're seeing an increase in people from the Middle East, from Africa, from all over, primarily men.
But back to your question on what happens at these processing facilities, They cross the border, Border Patrol is literally helping them cut the barbed wire, lifting the barbed wire, and they cross the border, and they all gather in this spot, and they're taken in a bus to the processing facilities, and they're saying, every single one of them is saying, we claim asylum, because they're told how to do this over in South America.
At these NGOs.
So they claim asylum.
They write down a sponsor, which most of the time is not real.
Or they list an NGO as a sponsor.
And then they're left out.
They're sent out.
They know exactly which NGOs to go to.
They're given court dates into the 2030s.
So, okay, well, you know, we'll figure it out in a decade from now.
The NGOs give them free plane tickets to all over the country, to New York, to Texas, to wherever, from Arizona to Arizona to Colorado, all over the country they're being flown.
So who, is there a difference between the type of person that ends up going to the processing facility and just the guy that's just crossing and running in?
No, and we could end up with the demographic problems that Europe has, which are real and it's uncomfortable to talk about, but is a reality.
So, okay, so these people, they get through the processing plant, they hop on a plane, and then they basically just show up at a sanctuary city and they move into the Ritz and they get room service.
I saw a video this morning that a woman speaking only in Spanish, who 10 years ago could have come to America and worked as a maid, now has someone who probably came here legally working as her maid.
And you live in that city, so good luck with all that.
All right, so as you've exposed more of this stuff, and Elon has retweeted a whole bunch of your stuff that's helped elevate it, do you sense that people are waking up and that anything is going to happen?
I mean, I think that's what it all boils down to now.
Everyone just kind of thinks, oh yeah, it's crazy, but no one's going to do anything about it.
I do, but I really think that the reckoning has to be international, because again, this is not unique to the United States.
I think there is a deliberate war on the West, and it's going to take a lot of Western countries coming together and saying, enough is enough.
But I do think the spotlight being shown on it is helpful, and I wish more people would just go down to the border and take their phone out and show what's happening, because You know, I spoke years ago, if you ran on immigration in a Midwestern city, right, a local election, nobody's going to care because it didn't affect them.
So you have to kind of bring it to their doorstep and say, no, I went down there.
This really is happening.
You have to show it to them.
And I think saturating that market with this content and showing it and making it really hard to ignore is really important for it to be an issue that one issue voting should be immigration at this point.
Like, people just see, they kind of look at the Hamas stuff, or the River to the Sea rallies and all this nonsense, and they're like, ah, that kind of feels like BLM, but it actually is the same thing.
Yes, it's the same people who are marching down the streets.
It's the same people who are putting up black squares.
It is the same rhetoric.
And these people don't seem to care about any of these injustices that are happening all throughout the Middle East.
You know, in other Islamic countries, they don't seem to care.
For whatever reason, they only care when it's Israel.
They care when it's the United States.
Why is that?
A lot of people didn't care about a lot of the injustices happening over in China.
None of these people are out protesting that we are Muslims in the camps in China.
None of these people are protesting the slaughtering of Nigerian Christians.
Why is that?
And I don't know that I have a good enough answer for that, and I've tried to stay as neutral as possible, but it's becoming Much more difficult to do that with how blatant the targeting of the issue seems to be, with how they don't seem to care about these issues or these injustices when it's happening anywhere else or perpetuated by other people.
Because we're told that Gen Z is all insane, you're supposed to have purple hair, you're supposed to have genitals that don't match your body, or something like that.
Are you sympathetic when you see the 22 to 28 year olds that have so lost it that should be at the, you know, sort of young part of about to head into the prime of their lives?
They feel like they don't have anything to control, so it seems like they cling to these movements like Free Palestine, like the BLM, because they feel like it's something they can control and do because there's so little impact they can have on so many different things.
They're not empowered to say, hey, you as an individual, as long as you're just trying to be useful, that's enough.
They're told the only way they can be useful is through these social justice causes.
And so I think that's why they gravitate towards it more.
But I do have hope that, you know, with people like Abigail who are drawing attention to,
hey, we've really been lied to about your mental health, about what's gonna be, help you as an individual,
maybe, maybe, if they can get out of it.
But I am concerned that this generation doesn't wanna have kids even.
You know, I interviewed, I did street interviews with Every Life, the diaper company, and speaking to these girls who are my age who are saying, one outright told me she didn't want to have kids because of the environment, because of climate change.
Yeah, and it depends on what metric you look at, right?
Because if you tell that to one person, they're going to say, well, women are graduating college at a higher rate.
It depends on what your metric for success is.
But I think both young men and women are particularly disturbed nowadays.
I think there's just really a war on identity, and that's where a lot of this gender stuff comes in.
They're really exploiting that so many people have no sense of identity.
They don't know who they are.
And because they've destroyed that.
You're not allowed to be a man anymore.
Being masculine is bad.
We pump little nine-year-old boys full of Ritalin and Adderall because being a young boy is disruptive.
Young girls, we're putting them on birth control as young as 12 years old, pumping them full of hormones.
And so I think we're fundamentally destroying what it means to be both a man and a woman.
And it's become so divisive.
There's this war of the sexes.
Well, it's all women.
If women just weren't so promiscuous, if men just weren't so this, instead of saying, hey, there's fundamentally a war on humanity, there is a subsection of the population of an elite class that's very anti-humanist.
They don't like you whether you're a man or a woman.
So I think that's probably something we should focus on more, and it's not really perpetuated by one sex or the other.
What do you sense from the sort of Gen Z perspective about just politically that, you know, whether you happen to like Trump more or you like Biden or whatever?
But it's just old people again.
You know, McConnell's finally stepping down.
Feinstein died at 180.
It's like, these people lived in a world that was so profoundly different at 25 than what you're dealing with at 25.
Wait, can you explain that a little bit more for people that don't fully follow this?
You're talking about, like, sort of this, like, trad movement that women should just basically be in the kitchen taking care of the kids, the husband should be out on the... And that is fine in certain contexts, obviously.
I'm not wanting to grow up and there's always more.
And so I haven't really heard anyone address that.
It's just we're putting a round peg in a square hole.
And I think the younger generation very much knows they are in a different world.
And there are two options, or the people who are fundamentally insane and the people who won't.
Yes, from the left who are like, you know, this, you know, infinite genders and this and that.
And I think they know a lot of that's insane.
But the other option is these people who won't accept that it's not the same world and who want to just recycle these ideas that worked really well in the past, but they're not really reinventing them in a way that's going to be helpful for this new generation.
But fundamentally, you have these politicians who are putting warning labels on cigarettes and not on social media.
You have what happened with Gemini.
Every politician should be up in arms about what happened with Gemini.
This is the future for our kids, is this new world, this AI world.
And instead we have them, you know, just laughing that Kamala Harris is so stupid and she's the AI czar.
And they don't really understand the implications of that, or what AI means, or what these companies are racing towards.
To not have everyone focused on that, or really any policies from the right on those issues, is going to lose us A lot over the course of time because it's almost like dinosaurs in a lot of ways.
Most of the cases of censorship that, especially that we see on social media, it wasn't, you know, typically a Yoel Roth saying, I'm gonna get him this time.
It was a robot.
It was an algorithm.
And nobody really stopped to think about the implications of that.
It was just, you know, we need free speech for the sake of the Constitution.
And while that's all well and good, I haven't seen a single person on the right talk about the implications for free speech as it relates to AI or AGI.
And that's really important for this newer generation because that's why it's going to be more important for them.
Sure, we should hold the constitutional value of free speech.
I do believe it's a God-given right.
But what does a world without free speech look like in the age of the internet?
Right, so potentially in this new world you could have your free speech, but once it's run through the AI machine no one will know that you have your speech in essence.
There's been not a single senator- Do you think that there would be legislation that would be- that's interesting to me because to me it's like these people have- the government, the government can't do anything.
I think women have fundamentally been lied to, and despite us being more equal than ever on paper, there's a paradox of declining female happiness.
And there's actually a really fantastic Yale study on this back when they were allowed to say these sorts of things.
Back in 2008, about this paradox of declining female happiness, and especially as it relates to birth control.
Many women are put on it as young as 12, 13 years old.
I was put on it at 14.
Not told the risks.
Not told that, hey, you might be depressed.
Hey, it might increase your risk for suicide.
None of that.
They just put these young girls on it, and they're on it for decades, and they never get off.
And for me, and many women that I've spoken to, I have hundreds of stories from hundreds of women from all across the political aisle who said once they got off they felt like they could think again.
They had thought they were crazy for so long.
And they're being pumped full of these hormones and your body's being told to stop doing its most essential biological function for years, for a decade, two decades.
We're seeing so many women who are facing fertility issues.
Once they finally try to have kids, they're having issues having kids after being on these these pills for years.
And so I truly believe that the left, so many things painted as progressive, are actually terribly regressive.
They are telling women the only way to be equal is to be men and to repress being a woman, repress your femininity.
They're not teaching women, you know, you can cycle track and it can be just as effective as birth control, if you're using birth control for the sake of birth control.
Right.
But women deserve informed consent on these issues.
They should know that, hey, when I start this, I may become depressed.
My risk for suicide may increase three times.
That's an incredible amount.
And I think a lot of these young girls who have been through that, they deserve a voice and they deserve justice.
And so that's what I'm hoping to do.
With this documentary, so I'm interviewing healthcare providers and women who have been on the pill.
We're also showing how easy it is to get for a young girl, and they don't do any mental health screenings.
They're not asking if you have a history of mental illness or depression before you're put on this pill.
That statistically, undoubtedly, nobody will deny this, even the left, that it increases your risk for depression and suicide significantly.
Well, I can see how this dovetails nicely with Abigail's new book, because basically her argument, or the case she's making, is that the entire psychiatric and psychological fields have failed an entire generation, and now you're connecting that to literally what they're doing to their bodies.
They treat birth control as this cure-all amazing pill because they know if you put girls on it young enough, they're not going to get off because guess what?
And they're like, oh, well, now it's risk-free sex and I should just stay on it.
But it's for skin.
It's for painful menstrual cycles, which aren't normal.
Instead of telling them, hey, you know, there's other remedies for this, a painful menstrual cycle usually signals something else wrong, that you're not taking care of yourself in other ways.
No, just take the pill and it'll go away.
So it's acne, which when I looked back at photos of myself at 14, I'm like, that was like killing a mouse with a rocket launcher.
You're like, why did they put me on this insane pill that I didn't get off of?
And I started seeing a therapist that same year, just a couple months later, after starting
Where do you think feminism went wrong that has led to this place that women are in such a bizarro place?
And you have the loudest feminists who are cheering on the guys that are now dressed up as girls wrestling women and choking them and dunking on them and all the other good stuff.
They want to be so divorced from the natural world.
I mean, think about everything.
We're already so divorced from the natural world, but they're really just trying to send that home and sit in the pod and eat the bugs and, you know, live in your VR headset.
We are almost completely divorced from the natural world.
There's hardly anybody that's born on default settings at this point, you know, so I think that's really part of it.
It's transhumanism to a really insane degree, where they don't, they just want, like, the trans, and not in, you know, transgender, but they just want to remove the human aspect of it and divorce us entirely from the natural world.
Alan Watts always says humans are incapable of living without myth, mythology, or something higher than themselves.
The issue is they've replaced God and religion with government, or with these social justice causes, or with themselves.
To believe in yourself to an umpteenth degree, or this hyper-consciousness of self, where they're just hyper-fixated on the self.
And that's become their religion.
I think they're incredibly religious.
It's just not a religion we've seen before, and one that has rather disastrous consequences and does not promote Natalism or furthering humanity is just the hyper-fixation of self.
Yes, I think there's a desire for women and men to be comfortable being women and men again.
They...
They very much want to, when you speak to these even Gen Z girls, they are consuming en masse this content of women just staying at home and being homemakers.
But that's become a dirty thing to say now.
You can't say, I just want to stay home and raise kids.
Even though that is one of the most important jobs you could ever do.
It's not easy to raise kids, but it's become a dirty thing for any young girl to say, I just want to be a mother.
I want to raise kids.
But you're seeing them show that a little in what they're consuming, and they're consuming this content at an astronomical rate of this homemaking content.
And so I think if they're made to feel like it's okay to be women again, That will be really instrumental in changing the course, even when you take the issue of abortion.
It's always fixated on the child, and we could get into, you know, who believes it's a baby, who doesn't, but nobody ever seems, especially on the right, to say, well, what is it doing to women?
You're telling me this is a women's rights issue.
This is one of the most fundamental women's rights issues that is going to shift the way the country is.
It's a one-issue voting issue.
And nobody's examining what it's doing to women.
Nobody's talking about the increase of women being on psychiatric medication post-abortion.
Nobody's talking about how a majority of women say they feel coerced by a partner to get an abortion.
Nobody's talking about how so many women say they do it to make someone else happy.
Yeah, it's an interesting point because I've made a point lately and I'm doing it more
and more and I'm trying to play less of like the screaming blue haired videos because it's
easy to do and yes, I get it's funny and okay, there's a kid who thinks he's a cat and all
of that stuff, but it's like you really should have sympathy for these people.
It's not their fault they ended up this way.
They may have had some predisposition to it, but there was a complete societal failure.
If anything, it's everyone that's 40 plus' fault that they ended up thinking they were cats and thinking that abortion is healthcare and the rest of it.
You're watching in real time the deterioration of these people because of what's being done to them by the left.
And the people I don't have sympathy are the ones, you know, the peddlers of these lies, the activists who...
We'll not see another side of this issue.
But for the most part, the people who are affected by this, you're watching them deteriorate in real time ascribing to this ideology and being sold this lie.
And so I think you're absolutely right.
How many times are we going to laugh at the people having a mental breakdown on camera?
I don't know that anything should be done about student loans, but I certainly don't think just zeroing out the loans because it's not, when Biden gave that speech the other day and he's like, I, what was the word he used?
I absolved the loans or whatever.
And it's like, no, you didn't.
You just shifted the debt elsewhere to other people to pay for it.
I hope so, and I actually got into a back and forth with Mark Cuban about this because I said more kids, more young adults would benefit from going to a trade school or getting their certificate.
Yeah, I think we just need to encourage people too to just read more, to learn more, to have a love of learning that they can foster on their own, right?
Because I had a professor who told me straight up, he was one of the best philosophy professors I ever had, and he said, most people shouldn't be here and they would just benefit from a really good reading list.
And he sees, I mean, he was tenured.
He saw how many kids come in and out of that room.
And I think more people feel that way than they're willing to admit about college.
And we've kind of sold kids this lie, but companies are moving away from it too.
I think it was like 50% of companies in 2023 just removed degree requirements entirely for mid-level and entry-level positions.
So if kids maybe get out of school a little bit, they don't get into the debt, they don't get taught bad ideas, they start understanding that their bodies are their bodies and all of those things, then that really is how we can reorder some of this stuff and we won't need the government to come in and fix everything.
Because, I mean, if you go back to all of that, right, like they're dependent on the medications, they're dependent on the student loans or the debt, whatever debt that may be.
They're dependent on all of these things that they can't remove themselves from.
There's no autonomy anymore.
So I think we really just need to empower people to be autonomous.
I will ask you one other thing, because you mentioned Mark Cuban, and I've seen you go back and forth with him a couple of times.
What do you make of what's going on with Mark Cuban?
I find him to be an extremely curious fella at the moment, between what he's getting wrong on immigration, between what he's getting wrong on DEI, what he's getting wrong about free speech.
I think he's getting one thing really, really right, and that is dialogue.
Because you probably couldn't name anybody else who's that far left who is engaging the way that he is with people, and that's what X is for, right?
We should be articulating these ideas really honestly, and I really have to commend Mark for that.
People were circulating this clip of him four months ago talking about how X is just this cesspool of hate now, but look at him, he can't get off of it!
Well, he's on here, and he's having these debates, and I really think that should be rewarded more than it is, especially on the right, because they will complain, the left doesn't want to have conversations.
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Well, here it is, and they're like, you're so stupid.
Well, it is why when I've seen you respond to him, and when I've responded to him, and we've gone back and forth a few times, I try my best, and sometimes it can be hard on Twitter.
To do it somewhat respectfully, because yes, I'm like, oh, you're not completely bananas.
But I think you got into it with him where he was explaining what DEI was.
And he's just, it seems to me, just completely confused about what it actually is, rather than what he sort of imagines it to be.
And then people on the right are like, you're an idiot.
So if you talk to, and he's not the only one, if you talk to most of these people at these companies implementing the DEI policies, they would say the same thing.
What Mark was essentially saying was, aren't all of these letters in here really good?
It's actually, you know, he doesn't quite understand the larger picture and, you know, the Marxist roots of DEI and what's happening here, and the deliberate exclusion, the reverse racism that's happening with DEI.
He's kind of been put through this humiliation ritual, too, you know, as it relates to these race issues.
You know, he was kneeling and saying, you know, white people, it's our job.
And so I think a lot of that comes from a place of wanting to be empathetic and just kind of going through this brainwashing of, you know, here's what we do and this white guilt sentiment.
Well, Mark, you're very wealthy.
Well, Dave, you're very wealthy and you're white.
You have this, and they do make you feel guilty for it.
And so I think they've kind of put him through this, like, humiliation washing machine, where now he's, like, saying all these things.
Well, but I guess the part, the reason I keep playing so many of these clips, or some of the times when you've gone, had these exchanges with him, is because I can't believe at this point, where now it's been so exposed, so explained, so obviously wrong, that he just stays in it.