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Rudy Giuliani | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #23
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Greetings, Earthlings!
Welcome to the Roseanne Barr Podcast.
Well, I'm really excited and so relieved, I have to tell you, about the family drama we went through with the nervousness of having the guest I have today, whom I'm very excited to speak with and have the opportunity to hear a lot of stuff that we don't normally get to hear for all of us conspiracy theorists.
As they like to call people who like the truth.
Anyway, Rudy Giuliani!
Hi!
It's a great honor to be with you.
Thank you very much.
Absolutely.
I love you and have always loved you.
I've always loved you too.
You're terrific.
You're just terrific.
What a great, what a great American.
Thank you so much.
And I mean that.
I so appreciate it.
I really, really do.
I really do.
Thank you.
Well, you are America's mayor.
You know, every time I just see you or hear your name, it goes back, you know, it goes back to that day.
Yeah, it's hard not to, right?
Right?
And it's indelibly etched there, you know, your leadership and your compassion and your ability to My ex-husband called me and goes, what do you think of all this stuff?
You won't believe this, Rudy, but I was on this turn-off-all-the-media kind of meditation thing
on that day, and so I didn't even find out about it until September 12th.
Oh my.
Uh-huh.
My ex-husband called me, he goes, what do you think of all this stuff?
I go, what?
He goes, have you not seen what's happened?
And I go, where?
What?
He goes, turn on the television.
Wow.
And I turned it on, and of course it was a day later, and you know, it was the repetition of all of these.
Yeah, but you had the whole story of the day by that time.
Yeah, but it was set by then, so it wasn't so chaotic as people who'd seen.
But the thing that impressed me as this person who's very obviously affected by my working class background and blue-collar people and their heroism and that being disrespected so often on television and at large, but the thing that I Was so moved by was here was all these wall street guys in
their suits It still moves me
And and they were just holding out water to the people who do all the honest work that makes everything go
to the firemen And I thought oh my this is
some Amazing thing happening in our country that the people who
do the work the first responders You know the people who save our lives
They're being Respected and honored by those people who so look down on
normally I thought, this is kind of good!
And then I saw you and It's just, to me, I'm going to remember that part of it because it was just so hopeful and so good, and there you were in the middle of it.
And here you are still in the middle of everything!
You know, it reminds me of two things about that day, what you're saying.
First of all, you'd be very interested in knowing a story that is known, but not as prominently as it should.
Around five o'clock that afternoon, I was at the site with all of my commissioners and we were trying to organize what we knew was going to be all night forever.
Yeah.
So we were getting the lighting equipment in and trying to make it safe because below the ground there were fires of 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
Oh my god.
And any person standing there at that point Was at risk of going into the ground.
In fact, we had some that went in and we had to pull them out.
So you didn't know where to stand.
All of a sudden, I see on Westside Drive, I see a whole large number of men walking toward us.
Like, I'm going to say, 300 in a group.
And as they got closer, I realized they were either highway workers or construction workers, or I don't know, what are they here for?
So I walked up to them with my police commissioner and fire commissioner, and it was a guy who was a leader, and I said, what are you doing here?
He said, we came to volunteer.
I said, well, you know, to volunteer, you've got to be a fireman or a rescue worker, and you have to have the right equipment.
He said, well, you can give us equipment.
You know, what we thought was, this is the way we can contribute, because we can lift heavy things.
They were construction workers who were building the skyscrapers, and they came to put themselves in a place where It was a 20% chance you were going to lose your life if you went in there.
And they said, you know, we never use any kind of protection.
We'll just go right in.
I said, no, I'm going to get your protection.
But you can't imagine what this has done for our morale.
I saw all the firefighters that were working, looking up.
And it's like, I guess it's like in a movie where you see the cavalry coming to save you.
Oh, yeah.
But they were all just working people.
They weren't like firefighters, police officers, soldiers.
We have plenty of those and they were great.
And they're all pretty much working class families.
My family were four police officers and a fire captain.
My uncles.
So I grew up with that.
The second one that I think you'd appreciate is the fact that from the very, very beginning, it was clear that this was an attack on not just New York, but on America.
And I was not sure And the first couple of hours, whether America could handle it.
Yeah.
Could this generation do what two generations ago did in the Second World War?
I wonder that.
And around the same time I saw that picture, someone showed me, I didn't see the scene live, they showed me the picture of the firefighters putting up a flag and they had debris, they had debris below them and it looked like Iwo Jima.
Yeah, it did.
And I looked at that and I said, They got the same blood.
Wow.
These are the sons and grandsons and great-grandsons of the people who went through World War II and saved the world from Nazism.
Yes, absolutely.
I just said that very same thing yesterday.
They got the same thing in them.
And when you think about it, even now, those are the people we ignore.
Right.
We listen to all the jerks.
Yeah, no kidding.
I said that yesterday.
You go talk to them and they're ready to go Well, that's why I want to talk to you, because people are saying that people are so soft here, and maybe they have been softened up, at least the ones we see, but I reminded them of, what is it called, Jake Dunkirk?
Yeah.
I mean, they knew they were going to die.
They knew they had to do it, and they did.
And we have that.
We sure do.
And so I think we're at such a scary time in our country, it takes us back to there, so I'm glad to see you for that.
Yeah, I have no doubt about it.
Of course, I want to talk to you about all that.
Yeah, I have no doubt about it.
If you go into the middle of America, which is most of America, except the one that makes noise, the part that makes noise, if you go into the middle of America, It's no different.
I mean, they're ready to die for the country.
They don't want their children taken away from them and have the state bring them up in schools.
Frankly, they're as anti-Marxist and anti-communist as they've always been.
The difference is that a lot of our Democrat leadership has become... I mean, they're following a Karl Marx playbook.
Yes, they are.
And they're following it as if...
You know, as if it were the Bible.
It's their Bible, because it's like a religion to them, except it's an anti-religion.
They don't believe in God, they don't believe in morality, they don't believe in the value of life, and they believe they are each individually God.
Well, they live in a fantasy world that doesn't exist on the planet.
It's all in their own heads.
I know because I was one of them.
I was raised like that.
But, like I say, my parents were, you know, I guess they were first immigrant Born Jewish American immigrants and they were all socialists, I mean, but like I say, and I was raised that way too, but it was a different socialist because that one was about building a middle class, a safety net, and
Decent pay as, you know, in a union.
This has nothing to do whatsoever with labor rights.
It has nothing to do with that.
I say, this ain't your granddaddy's socialism.
And so I began to crack that programming and it was painful.
I mean, to see, for me, I ran for president in 2012 on a socialist thing.
Because I wanted to run against Obama, who scared me.
Right.
I was like, well, let's get naked if we're gonna talk about socialism, not that fake stuff you're talking about, Obama.
And I confronted all of that as a real socialist, right?
And then I saw what was frightening to me was the amount of Jew-hating that was within the left.
It was just starting, and everywhere I would go in America to speak about, you know, Americans and profit sharing, which, you know, in some way they could say is a socialist thing, but it's right.
It's the right thing, right?
So everywhere I would go to speak, These people who were American, their first question to me was, like robots, what about the Israeli occupier of the West Bank and the Palestinian homeland?
What about that?
And their voice would be like this, like a robot.
And I'd say, excuse me, what do you know about stand your ground gun laws?
In this state that you live in, you know.
Right.
What?
Because that was around the Trayvon Martin time.
Right.
I go, what do you actually know about the law in your community that controls your entire life and you want more of that shit?
Right.
What do you know about reality?
And they'd be like, don't try to change the subject from the racist apartheid state of Israel.
So I had to get out of there.
And plus I had a Muslim woman as my campaign manager and and somebody from nation
of it a man from nation of Islam Here in America who was a pro-american
Muslim man who did all these great things in Texas for children and
education and and a black black woman as my also campaign manager
Well, these white people on the left, they got in their face and they said, they called them not the right kind of Arab, not the right kind of black man, not the right kind of black women.
And I was like, ungodly racism, I can't stand it. It's all projection. And
so that's why I left and and my platform was very much a populist platform. Then I,
you know, I had interviewed Trump in 1998 on my talk show and I told him at
the time, had him and Michael Moore on his guests and we all three debated
because back in that time it was legal to debate and converse.
You know, it's still legal.
We were talking about capitalism versus, you know, we were talking about economic systems.
And Trump won like a S.O.B.
He flattened Big Fat Michael like a pancake.
And I said, you ought to run for president.
And he shrugged me off.
Well, here it comes.
I had just run for president.
Then I hear Trump speak, and he's saying so much of what I said that I was like, oh my God, he's for real.
He is for real.
You know, it's an amazing thing that people You can understand it because he came up as a celebrity and by and large they distrust a lot of the celebrities, particularly people who would be inclined, you know, middle class people.
But I think they picked up right away that he makes decisions the way Our old-fashioned politicians used to make decisions.
What's right for America?
Yeah, what's right for America.
Now, he could be right or wrong about that, but that's what he's thinking about.
Yes, he is thinking about it.
Then he makes a decision, and then you worry about the political party.
You don't start with the... Political parties are supposed to advance the good of America, not the good of the political party.
That's why we have it.
I mean, I'll tell you one thing that bothers the heck out of me.
You know how they want to change the names of everything?
Anybody who had any association with slavery, like George Washington, because he had slaves, or Jefferson, who tried everything he could do to free the slaves, and he just couldn't do it.
But why don't they change the name of the Democratic Party?
The Democratic Party promoted slavery.
The Democratic Party almost created its continuation in America.
The Democratic Party supported the other side of the Civil War.
And the Democratic Party did segregation.
right up until Biden, his best friend was a, I don't know, the
Grand Poobah or whatever you call them in the Ku Klux Klan.
Yeah. So that party is completely associated with slavery. On the other hand, the
Republican Party was founded to end slavery. Yeah, Lincoln. Yeah. So I mean, if
they're gonna go back to those days, they need a new name.
No, Rudy, that's why they don't want to go back to the states.
The Cleveland Indians have to change.
They should change.
And did you see that the actual Native Americans were petitioning that to bring the name back?
They don't matter.
The Native Americans don't matter.
The blacks don't matter.
If the blacks mattered, these cities that are setting records for murder Like Philadelphia set a record for murder two years ago, more than ever in 250 years.
Baltimore.
Chicago on weekends is like a war zone.
St.
Louis, Baltimore.
They're all Democratic mayors.
Soros paid for DA.
Yes, absolutely.
This is all because of the Democrat Party and its racism.
Because the people suffering the most there are black people.
Well, they don't care.
They don't care about what happens to those black women.
Would you look at Nancy Pelosi's district?
Because I had to go up there because my son went to college there and so I'd go visit him, you know.
Plus, I broke my knee and I had to live there for three months in this hotel.
But I go outside.
It was that part where, you know, downtown.
Right.
Everybody homeless, about 90 percent, they're black on the streets.
In Nancy Pelosi's district, and then she gets down on one knee with an African scarf, I almost puked.
Yeah, yeah.
It is disgusting.
They totally disfranchised and took everybody's house, and they became homeless, and that was their thanks for a Bolton Democrat.
Nancy and her husband became zillionaires based on his insider trading.
Yep.
That other people go to jail for I mean they are fabulously wealthy But she comes out of a she comes out of a Baltimore political Democrat machine machine.
That is an example of what's wrong With the old American city.
The only thing wrong with the old American city is it's a dictatorship New York City is not A democracy, a republic.
It's a Democrat dictatorship.
Yes, it is.
That must break your heart to look at it.
Except for Staten Island.
I broke through it.
Can we ask, how did you do that?
That's what I want to ask.
I broke through it because, first of all, the population was a little different.
This makes some difference.
It was five to one Democrat when I won.
It's now seven to one Democrat.
And the Democrats were different.
Yeah, they were.
I mean, I got a big Democrat vote.
Yeah, you did.
I had a real Democrats for Rudy group that was almost as strong as my Republican and Independent group.
I couldn't get that today.
Today, the Democrats in New York want to put me in jail.
They'd like to see me.
They took away my law license, the Bar Association, because they are ideological Democrats and Trump haters.
There's a sickness.
This Trump thing is a sickness.
If you just step back from it, what does the guy do that's so bad?
I mean, Say you don't like his personality, but now we look at the condition of the country.
He didn't have any wars.
Those people in Ukraine would all be alive if he were president, because Putin would never have gone in if he were president.
I don't think there's anybody in the world that believes that.
Israel too.
Israel, I think, you never would have had this happening in Israel.
It didn't happen while he was there.
In fact, at this point, if he had been going forward with the Abraham Accords, you'd probably have a pretty darn good alliance between Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the other Arab states.
Egypt.
And that was broken up completely by Biden because Biden's in love with Iran.
Biden wants to say he's a friend of Israel, and he sent hundreds of millions, and he had $6 billion headed to Iran.
Iran was broke.
Yeah.
You can't tell me you're my friend if you're giving $6 billion to somebody who wants to kill me.
If I'm Bibi, I look at him and say, wait a second, I don't need a friend like that.
You're giving $6 billion to a group of people who are debted the most important thing to them.
is to destroy Israel and kill Jews and you gave them six billion dollars pal. I know Bibi has to
pretend but deep down he's got to know that this friend of Israel is a bunch of political crap.
I mean the guy is a complete supporter of Iran just like the one who gave Iran cash, Prince Barry.
I call him Prince Barry.
Well he kind of is a prince.
Do you know he's the richest president we've ever had?
And he was a socialist.
One of those kinds.
No he wasn't.
You look at them and you say they really are communists.
Because if you look at a communist party, the big top people in the communist party are millionaires and billionaires.
Yeah, they are.
And it isn't just like Xi or Mao or...
So there are about 1.56 billion people in China.
100 million are communists.
They're anywhere from upper middle class to fabulously wealthy.
The rest of China is lower middle class or starving.
And that's just true in every communist country.
Thank you for watching our episode with Rudy Giuliani.
And you know what?
I really had a lot of energy.
You said I was very energetic and I'm getting more energetic.
Yeah, I was going to ask if you were on drugs or something, but you told me... Well, half of it is because today is my 71st birthday.
Happy birthday.
Thank you.
And, you know, so that makes me happy and energetic, but also I feel like I'm getting a new lease on life, kind of, because of the field of green stuff.
Yeah, you've been taking it.
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Yeah, I have more energy to chase after her and cater to her non-ceasing demand.
I've been noticing you've been scooping it into juice and you were talking about scooping it into wine.
They don't recommend that.
They want you to do water.
Yeah.
But as long as you're getting your whole fruits and vegetables, I'm probably happy about it.
Yeah.
You really do like it.
I feel like I have a glow or a more of a lust for life kind of healthier thing going on and I'm looking forward to things too.
So I think it's helping my outlook and my attitude also.
I do too.
I mean you're 71.
Because I'm never going to sit there eating all the six cups of fruits and vegetables.
I don't have time for that.
What with my smoking and blogging.
I think that's why they picked you as a sponsor.
But also yeah it's kind of decreasing my need for cigarettes too.
I have to say that.
Well, I think there's truth to that.
They've shown studies that people that smoke cigarettes seems tied to emotional things, but also there's studies, I can't remember where they are, but it's when you're nutrient deficient, nicotine craving actually becomes stronger.
Is that true?
It is true.
Well, I mean, according to this one thing I read on the internet years ago, I don't know how, I mean, I read it.
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But when you're actually like sate and satiated, you don't really want to smoke.
You ever notice that?
No.
But I have noticed that.
I've never been satiated.
Yeah.
But you know, no, but I just feel healthier and like not so sluggish.
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I feel like running after your kid and having fun.
She likes me to chase her.
She does.
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Let's get back to the interview with Rudy because it's going great.
Rudy's a blast.
I know.
I want to ask him a few more questions.
Let's get back to it.
Look at Black Lives Matter, which is a communist organization.
They were doing it before they were even established.
They were stealing all the money.
She had three houses.
Patrisse Cullors had become a communist dignitary.
Wealthy person.
And that's what Obama is.
Obama is fabulously wealthy.
He didn't earn it.
He wasn't building skyscrapers and towers.
Did you know that his adopted father, Lolo Sotoro, was Bush's partner in the founding of Halliburton?
I didn't know that.
How do you like them apples?
You didn't know?
No, I didn't know that.
Oh, I can't believe there's something you didn't know, Rudy.
Yeah, I didn't know that!
There you go, Roseanne!
When you dealt with the mafia in New York, though, because that's one of the things that made you famous, right?
Yes.
But isn't that the Democrats?
Well, that's what I'm getting at.
Were they more terrifying to deal with than Democrats?
Oh, very interesting.
They were more straightforward.
Right.
They knew who they were.
They were better to their grandchildren.
That's true.
Than Joe, who doesn't recognize the little granddaughter.
The psychological damage being done to that kid has got to be terrifying.
Yeah, but think about it.
Think about what ain't being done to her.
I think that she's lucky she's kept away from them.
Well, yeah, I don't know.
The poor woman involved there wants the name, and if I were a lawyer, I'd advise her ten years from now that name is going to be the worst president in American history.
The president who, except for presidents in time of war, lost the most American lives.
The American president who almost made us a dictatorship.
He and his administration and Obama are exactly what the Founding Fathers were most worried about.
Absolutely.
I mean, if you read when they go off on how this could end, they say it can't happen outside, it can happen inside.
It can happen inside by a dictatorship of the majority.
And that's what they're trying to create, and that's why they're bringing all these people in, because they know, they actually know they're actually going to eventually lose the black vote.
They're eventually going to lose it.
They may now, but they will.
No, Rudy, check this out.
I read all the time, and I have a little bit on the spectrum, the autism thing, okay?
I mean, you know, I'm, whatever, we just say we're autistic.
My younger son used to think that was artistic, and he'd always say, she's artistic.
But anyway, so I compile things.
And because I ran for president, I have inside friends.
Okay, getting on ballots and such.
Counting stuff.
Okay, here's what I think happened.
They had to do what they did in 2020 because so many black people voted for Trump.
That's why they did everything.
Because they saw it coming, and they were like, oh hell, we've lost our hold on, you know, are the people we think we own.
And they panicked, and that's why truckloads of ballots kept showing up.
I don't disagree with you, because I watched it start when he went, I can't remember if the first speech
that he gave about you have nothing to lose.
Right.
Now, I did that in 93.
I went to the black and Hispanic community where we were having over 2,000 murders a year, 70 to 80% in their community.
They were the people dying, not the white people.
Right.
Every year, 8% of the murdered people in New York were white.
The other 92% was everything else, 70% black.
So I mean, if murder goes up 100 murders, 70 are black.
So I went into the black community and I went into the Hispanic community.
I was running against the first black mayor of New York the first time I ran.
And I said, you got nothing to lose voting for me.
And not everybody picked it up, but a lot of people did.
When he did it, it really picked up in that community, and I agree with you.
I think he got... and the places they picked for cheating were the crooked Democrat cities.
They didn't cheat all over.
Right.
Think of the places where they... he was ahead when you went to bed.
Right.
How has it possibly lost every one of them?
Yeah, how is it?
So he was ahead in Philadelphia, crooked democratic city.
He was ahead in Detroit, crooked democratic city.
He was ahead in Atlanta, corrupt crooked democratic city.
He was ahead in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
All those cities turn.
Pennsylvania flips 800,000 votes.
Actually, that's the one I didn't think they could do.
I told Newt Gingrich that when the night was over.
I said, I think they called it just a little too late.
I thought they had made them, you know when they stopped the vote count?
Yeah.
The minute they stopped the vote count, that's the first thing it said to me.
Oh man, they're going to try to steal it.
And I thought maybe they waited just a little too long, because technically we were far enough ahead, in enough states, that if this were an election 20 years ago, they would have called those states for him.
He would have had an electoral vote victory that night.
Not just 20, 4 years before.
Yes, yeah.
But you could tell that they were in the fix, because Fox calls Arizona for him after two votes.
Yeah.
Oh, Arizona!
Right.
People were shocked when Fox did that.
That's why they don't let me on Fox.
I know.
I used to be probably their most frequent guest.
Yeah, you were.
And not only that, I helped them get established.
I gave them the radio station in New York when Turner Broadcasting wouldn't put them on.
And Roger Ailes and Rupert came to me.
We had four cable stations.
And we regulate cable in New York.
And they said, this is a violation of free speech.
They won't let us on.
I gave them the foreign language station.
And they paid me four times what I was getting for it.
And the city made a big bundle off Rupert.
But I got sued by Turner.
And then after eight months, they settled it.
And Fox had New York.
Wow.
Now, they keep me off because I'll go on.
They want you to go on.
Maybe now they've changed a little, but you can't say stolen election.
No.
I was scared to even bring it up because YouTube just barely changed their rules about being able to even say that word.
Yeah, I mean, how un-American is that?
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, that's why Trump and everybody else is in trouble because they question the election just like Hillary did every day for four years after she lost.
Well, I'm indicted for that.
I know!
And the penalty would be 20 years, and I'm 79 years old, so I die in jail.
Fannie Fannie, I can't remember her last name.
Fannie Willis.
Oh, yeah, the pretend district attorney in one of the most crooked counties in America wants to put me in jail until I die.
Let's compare what she's accomplished as a DA and what I accomplished as a prosecutor.
She's accomplished zero and I accomplished something, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah, but Rudy, you didn't trend on Twitter every single day talking about, we got him now, Russia, Russia, Russia, you weren't in that.
That was able to hold America's attention since 2016.
All bullshit.
It was completely, 100%, not only untrue, invented and paid for.
By Hillary.
You know, I didn't know that last part.
One of the reasons I defended him, I volunteered to defend him, was he's been my friend for 30 years.
My son is very close to him.
And I was with him for the last four months of the campaign.
Almost from dawn to when he went to bed.
And I knew there was no Russian collusion.
Because if there was, I would have felt it.
I'd have seen it.
I would have known it.
He's not a man who hides things.
No, he's definitely not.
He would have talked about it.
Yeah.
First of all, he wouldn't have thought it was wrong.
I mean, if he did it, he would have thought it was okay.
He doesn't do anything he thinks is wrong.
That's what people don't get.
Because if he did, he would feel bad, because he knows he has to talk about it.
I mean, I was his lawyer, and there are times, of course, it's privileged, he would come to me and say, get me an opinion on what's legal.
And you would give him the opinion, and he would follow that.
Of course.
And I remember another time when somebody recommended doing something that was outrageous, and he, I mean, he just threw them right out of the White House.
Also, there were people that stopped supporting him.
He never talks about this, maybe I shouldn't.
People that stopped supporting him because he was too hard on China.
And I'm talking about... I'm sure.
Hundreds of millions.
He basically told them in a nice way.
I would have said, you know, go to hell.
He said, he just ignored them.
I just said no.
And they said, you know, you'd do far better if you'd soften up a little, you'd raise a lot more, and Biden wouldn't be outraising you and the Democrats if you went a little easier on China.
And he basically said, I'll never do that.
Yeah.
And I have a much worse temper.
I'm always ready to go punch them in the face and beat them up because I thought they were traitors for doing that.
They are.
A hundred percent.
I mean, I just think that people don't realize, and I didn't realize until maybe five, six years ago, how brilliantly and evil, evil but brilliant, China invaded us.
Oh, didn't it?
Took them like 30 years.
They own our universities.
They own a lot of our companies.
They own our ports.
Our companies want the profits in China because they see it as five times America.
I've been told that by Republicans and Democrats, you know, we can give up our business in America and we can make five times more in China.
They're making the wrong bet.
Because they don't realize the Chinese economy has a hydrogen bomb right in it, and it's those seven or eight hundred million people that can't eat.
Yeah.
They're gonna rise up at some point.
It's just, at some point, China's gonna have to do something about them, if it wants to lead the world.
And they don't factor that into the Chinese economy.
If you factored that into the Chinese economy, it's actually an extremely weak economy.
And a lot of people are seeing that now. They don't factor that into our economy either, do they?
No, they don't. They try very, very hard to hurt our economy, so we'll become part of
the Soros, Klaus Schwab, Barack Obama one world.
That's where they're headed.
They're headed all that stuff about burning down statues, burning flags, taking a knee, saying terrible things about America.
I mean Biden goes out and says America is systemically racist.
Now, here's what that means.
He doesn't know what it means.
He didn't know what it meant before he became demented.
I'll tell you about him in a minute.
But what that means is we're all racist.
Can you imagine telling your country you're all racist?
Don't talk for me.
I'm not racist.
I grew up with white kids, black kids, Irish kids, German kids, Jewish kids, Italian kids.
Uh, the one who was on my side was my friend.
Right.
And when we had fights, if you were on my side... In the real world, that's how it works.
If the black kid was on my side, he was the best guy in the... Right.
That's how it works in the real world.
And that's the way it works in the real world.
And I just don't evaluate people on color.
And I think people who do, I think there's something wrong with them.
You know what it is, they do it because they don't live in integrated neighborhoods.
That's the real fact.
Isn't that interesting?
I always made sure, like I'm like Trump, I think of Trump as being on the autism spectrum himself.
Isn't that interesting?
There's a certain way we are with people like me, and probably you too, Rudy.
I gotta go check it!
No, those of us who talk a lot about what's inside, well, we have to tell the truth because we'll look like, you know, whatever we say has to be true because we don't remember if we lied.
We'll just say it.
It'll just come out, you know, because we just have to say, say, say.
So if we're doing something bad, we'll say that too.
So we have to have a clean conscience in order to live, you know?
We have to do that.
You're absolutely right.
He will tell stories about himself that don't make him look perfect.
They're not wrong or illegal, but things that are not flattering.
He'll just say it!
Everybody else would hide it, you know, the usual policy, and Biden would make it up completely.
Right.
I mean, you're not going to get out of him things like, you know, he went to the top of a tree during battle and gave a medal to a guy who refused it.
Or that he was under sniper fire in Afghanistan.
Yeah, and it turns out the guy, he never gave the guy, not only wasn't he there, he wasn't on the battlefield, he wasn't even the guy who gave the medal to this soldier who turned it down.
It was done in the White House, and the guy who gave it was Obama, and the guy originally said he didn't think he was worthy.
But it wasn't him, it was Obama who did it.
So that thing in the White House becomes him on a battlefield almost getting killed.
Because this is a truly sick man.
I've known him since 1981, Biden.
I even employed one of his nieces in City Hall.
I worked on the 1994 Crime Bill with him, and I helped write the 1994 Crime Bill because it was actually written in 1982 under Reagan.
And I worked for President Reagan, who was my hero.
His college classmate was my chief of staff.
That's how we got to know each other.
When I got introduced to him, he brought me over and he said, I want you to meet him.
He's a really nice guy.
But boy, is he dumb.
He was the dumbest guy in our law school class.
He cheated his way through.
He said he was top of the class.
And that's why he did, because he has a chip on his shoulder.
This is a guy who grew up as the dumbest kid in the neighborhood, the dumbest kid in the class.
That's why you get that.
I have a higher IQ than you have.
Or, I was first in the class and had 35 scholarships.
Well, he was second to last, and he had no scholarships, and he got left back in the third grade, and he failed out of law school and had to write a paper to get back in.
He plagiarized on the paper, and he charmed the dean's wife, and they let him back in.
And then the people in law school liked him because he told jokes, but didn't want to sit next to him because he cheated on everyone, and he would get them in trouble.
So then I met him, and for a while I was convinced he was very, very charming, but exceedingly stupid.
I'd come back sometimes from a meeting with him, and I'd almost say to myself, did he really say that?
I would tell people to try to describe it.
You know, if I say he's the dumbest man in Congress, you're not going to get it.
I'm going to ask you to do the following.
Think of everybody you know.
In your family, you know some dumb people.
Everybody does.
He's dumber.
So that's why it's hard to tell that he's demented.
But you can tell because he never talked that.
He was always glib.
Yeah, he was Glib. Which is part of why he got in trouble because his words had run ahead of his mind.
Right. But he was very, I wouldn't say articulate, but Glib.
So all you have to do is go back and get a speech from 10 years ago and just play his last
speech and watch it. It's two different people.
How about when he was questioning Clarence Thomas to go on?
That's when I turned against him.
That's when I realized it was a meanness to him.
Oh, it was a snide little sneer at a black man.
He didn't believe any of that.
I mean, he was racist.
I know, and then right after that the judge said, I feel like this is a high-tech lynching.
It was.
And it was.
And he let it happen.
That's when I turned against him in terms of I didn't think of him as a dumb, but nice guy.
I said, there's something, there's a mean streak here.
I always knew he was a creature of whatever they put in front of him.
Yeah.
Because he couldn't think.
And, uh, but now it's very, very different.
Now he has a very, very serious case of dementia.
But he reminds me, I mean, they call it the Biden crime family.
That's true.
Yeah, it is true.
But he's kind of like somebody that would be on The Sopranos.
You know, and his family too, the whole family thing.
Yeah, yeah.
The brother-in-law, the brother, everybody's making money.
He's got to be somewhat smart.
I mean, he's corrupt as all hell.
He's got to have some level of intelligence.
He has the whole machinery of the government behind him.
I think he has always been run.
I think he is the head.
In some ways, and a figurehead in other ways.
That's certainly true in the government.
Obama runs the government.
Yeah, absolutely.
Even in good times, he wouldn't be capable of most of these decisions.
Even if he weren't a man, Obama would be running it.
Well, I think of it as Obama's third term, and he himself said, if only I could get a sock puppet upstairs and I'd be down here in the basement with the radio.
He said that, Obama.
And that's what it is.
You can see that That almost insane caring about Iran.
I mean, it's completely inconsistent with any future for America, Israel, or the human race.
I mean, even compared to China and Russia, where we've got, you know, leaders who are homicidal and, in a way, these are hardcore communists.
Who you can negotiate with.
They're not homicidal maniacs like this guy.
This guy is leading a cult, a homicidal cult, where they'll blow themselves up in order to kill you, or they'll justify putting children in front of them, so if they die, they take out 500 children.
Most of us, if we were going to die, would try to save the 500 children.
They'd get them killed.
Well, communists must have blood.
That's why they get the red flag and the whole deal.
They have to have never-ending revolution and blood.
They're like vampires!
Iran is made for them.
Iran is a destabilizer.
It creates tremendous problems way beyond just the Middle East, and if they didn't have an Iran, they would create it.
Yeah, absolutely.
And this guy supports it.
I mean, I keep thinking, you know, from all that cash that he sent, all that cash that he sent in the middle of the night.
Pallets of cash.
When I was a prosecutor, back in, what would have been I guess in 15 and 16 when he was
leaving office, he sent some money, $170 million in cash and didn't tell anybody, he had to
get caught.
That's what drug dealers do.
And why would you give them cash?
I mean, you just think, you use your mind a little.
It's a government, you send it by wire.
Oh, unless you're giving the money to terrorists, because they like to have cash, or you're giving it to drug dealers, they like to have cash.
Gee, it'd help to have been a prosecutor, you know?
Isn't it RICO?
The whole effing government is RICO!
Obama should be under investigation for that transaction, giving cash and hiding it.
That has to be for a nefarious reason.
Then think of how many people were killed as a result of that money, including Americans, because Soleimani, who Trump took out, specialized in killing Americans.
Right.
So one could say Obama paid for it.
Well, the American taxpayer paid for it.
Yeah, for the killing of their own people.
The police, like in your family, the firefighters.
Yeah, I mean, it's amazing what we went through with the defunding of the police.
So my police department now has to worry about a much bigger threat of terrorism than ever before.
Right now, there is a much greater threat of terrorism in the United States than, let's say, the day before September 11.
Because the day before September 11, we had a much better idea of who was in the United States.
The minute that attack took place, The minute we knew it was a terrorist attack, we knew exactly who did it.
Right.
Now, it would have been better if we had known about it before.
But by knowing about it immediately, no time was wasted in protecting us against any repercussions from it.
Nowadays, if there were an attack, it'd be very hard to figure out who did it because he's let in so many people and we don't know who they are.
We know he's let in lots of terrorists.
We do know that.
Because we've picked up more terrorists than ever before.
And there's a calculation here.
For every one you note, there's at least one or two more that come in secretly.
Why would they?
Where's the army that's in evasion?
Well, we helped them in.
No, but I mean, why isn't the United States government doing anything about an invasion and terrorists coming across the... Because they want to destabilize the United States so that we change our form of government and become part... Well, I know all that, but didn't people take vows to the Constitution to protect... That doesn't matter to them.
That doesn't matter to them.
They've broken that numerous times.
But isn't there any generals that... Look at General Milley.
General Milley said that he would call China if Trump was going to attack... That's the Logan Act.
That's illegal.
...was going to attack China.
Where the hell are those loyalties?
Well, where's the FBI?
Don't we give them our tax money to try to keep us safe from being attacked?
I mean, they're arresting grandmothers?
They're busy in PTA meetings.
They're too busy.
And searching my apartment?
No, but it's way too scary, because where is the government that's supposed to be protecting the taxpayers that pay for their salaries?
In many, many places it is no longer a government, it's a regime run by Biden and run by Obama as part of the Democrat Party.
So, okay, did they win?
The commies overthrew our government?
Pretty close to it.
I mean, if you look at our economy, our economy is clearly more socialist than some socialist countries.
We don't have a criminal justice system.
No.
I mean, all you have to do is look at the fact that Hunter Biden is still walking around after one crime and that Biden, Biden could have been prosecuted and put in jail.
In 2015-2016, all the evidence was there, the witnesses were ready to come over from Ukraine.
The FBI, you will find out, had the whole case and buried it.
They've been protecting him for years.
But they indicted you.
Yeah, and then going after other people.
And before me, how many people did they go after?
You take a guy like Manafort, they virtually tortured him.
They put him in solitary confinement and they bring him back and they tell him what to say.
And the man luckily has enough honor to say, you know, go screw yourself.
But I worried for my client every day because I didn't know Paul very well.
And I said, gee, you know, you keep doing that, a man's going to cave.
Look at the people that have caved now under much less pressure.
Those are war crimes.
Oh, they are, yeah.
They'd bring them over.
And they'd have him in a cell for 22, 23 hours a day looking at his feet.
Then they'd bring him over about every six or seven days.
This is an old man.
And then they'd have him sit around in a nice office, have a nice meal.
And then they would tell him what they wanted to hear.
They believed he was the connection between Trump and Putin.
All the shit they knew was fake.
They're trying to get him to lie for them.
Well, the FBI knew it wasn't true.
No, so they're trying to make him lie for them.
Well, they began with the assumption that he was the connection.
They found that he wasn't, but they wanted him to say it anyway.
Right.
And the reality is they made a critical mistake.
Manafort was very tied in in Ukraine.
Right.
And he was tied in with the Russian-oriented Ukrainians.
Right.
Therefore, they thought he was tied in with Russia, and he wasn't.
Now, let me tell you how that's a bunch of As he likes to say, malarkey.
Do you know the oligarch who paid them all the money, Zoloshevsky?
He was a Russian-oriented Ukrainian.
So the Bidens just didn't sell them out to sell out to Ukraine.
They sold out to the Russian side of Ukraine that now has invaded Ukraine.
Zoloshevsky was a Russian-oriented Ukrainian who had to run out of the country.
When the Ukrainians took their government back and was exiled, he was paying money to Biden to have the case against his company dismissed so he could come back to Ukraine.
So basically, that was the whole thing was about.
That bribe money wasn't for Hunter.
It wasn't for... It was to get Zlochevsky's company back into Ukraine and have it not taken away from him.
And it's a $30 billion company.
It's worth a couple million dollars in bribes.
So Sheskey goes around Ukraine now bragging that he kept his $40 billion company for only $200 million.
That he paid out about $200 million in bribes, the Bidens being one of them.
The other thing that We don't want to bother to find out or Saint Zielinski doesn't want to find out this, is that the president... Did you say Saint Zielinski?
Yeah, because they made him a saint.
He's surely not a saint.
His mentor was the biggest money launderer in Ukraine, Kolomoisky, and So Linsky knows the whole story.
Yeah.
He knows a lot that I don't know.
I can give you half the story and I have half the documents.
He's got the whole file.
Which means if he says, Joe, I need 60 bill.
Joe says, yes, sir.
Joe, I need another 20 bill.
I don't know.
You want to see the other pictures of Hunter?
You know, they don't have everything.
You know, what about the foreign bank accounts?
Joe, you know we put a lot of money in foreign bank accounts for you.
And the FBI did you a favor and never interviewed the woman who knew it, even though they knew she might get killed.
They're probably hoping she got killed.
But I have the bank account numbers.
What do you think would happen if we started opening those bank accounts?
You better give me the 60 bill.
Now, I'm not saying that's happening.
But he's compromised.
But it is happening.
That could happen.
Allegedly.
Now, I'll give you one for which he should be impeached, prosecuted, and put in jail for the rest of his life.
He gave up the Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan that is 400 miles from China.
You don't have to be a military expert to realize to have an air base 400 miles from your biggest enemy is golden.
And if you look at the war going on in Israel, you see what proximity means, right?
And the weapons.
Right.
400 miles, and not only was it an airbase, it was one that we had put billions of dollars in, and it was an A-number-one airbase, right virtually on the border of China.
He gave it up for nothing in return.
He left behind $85 billion worth of equipment that's being used by Hamas now.
Because the Taliban didn't need that much.
All of a sudden the Taliban became, you know, better armed than most of the countries in that area of the world.
They sold half of it.
They were the biggest arms dealers for the last two, three years selling our arms.
One of the groups they sold it to is Hamas.
You've got to believe that some of that equipment that's killing Israelis and some Americans... My family lives there.
We paid for it.
My family lives in Israel.
I take it real personal.
Yeah, I've been to Israel many, many times.
I love Israel.
And in one White House record, I'm half Jewish.
Really?
Yeah.
Do you like that?
You know, my friend said that to me, you know what I said?
Well, she's not Jewish at all, but she said, she's from the Midwest, so she has, she talked like that, you know.
And so, we were hanging out, and somebody, she comes running back, she's all excited, she goes, that guy thought I was Jewish!
And she's all happy, and I go, trust me, it's not a compliment!
Depends on how you look at it, but being mayor of New York, and growing up in a neighborhood that actually was Italian, Irish, and Jewish, with friends You know, I feel like I know everything about Judaism, and then when I ran, one of the reasons I won was the Jewish vote.
But there was a White House Hanukkah party, and I, at the last minute, wanted to go.
Because my friends were going, and they said, oh, they'll let you into the Hanukkah party.
So they're being very strict this year about the parties.
But I called up the president's secretary.
Now, I'm his lawyer.
I'd walk into the residence three nights a week.
So I call up Madeline and I say, Madeline, could you give me two tickets to the Hanukkah party?
And she says, no, I can't, Mr. Mayor, because you're going to the Christmas party next week.
And Mrs. Trump said we have to be very strict because last year, numerous people would double and tripling.
In other words, they would go to the Hanukkah party and two Christmas parties.
So we really would like his close friends to set a good example.
I said, oh, I understand that.
So then I said, well, I'll call the president.
I sat down.
Let me have some fun.
I said, Madeline, but I have to go.
She said, well, why?
I said, I'm half Jewish.
She said, I didn't know that.
I said, I got elected mayor.
How do you think, Madeline, a Republican could get elected in New York if he wasn't Jewish?
She said, oh, what's that?
I said, my mother.
My father, you know, was Italian.
My mother was Jewish.
And she said, OK, well, I'll put you down.
And I got the ticket.
And there's a little record there saying, half Jewish.
Well, if your mother was a Jewish one... Well, she wasn't.
No, he lied.
He lied.
Oh, he lied.
I love it.
Well, that makes you really Jewish.
It was a little one.
Uh-oh!
Uh-oh!
I hope the Statue of Limitations ran.
That guy Smith is going to come after me now.
Fannie Willis is going to invite you again.
Wait, wait until I finish the interview, FBI, please.
There's no reason to knock down the door with a... You don't need those machine guns to arrest me.
I wish I could get invited to an effing Hanukkah party at the White House for once in my life.
I tell you what, the right things happen.
The right things happen.
I'll guarantee you an invitation in 20... What would it be? 2025?
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm holding you to it.
I had to ask you a couple questions.
You mentioned people flipping.
I don't know what you can and can't talk about.
Were you talking about Jenna Ellis and Meadows?
Well, I don't know actually.
You don't know.
I don't know the truth of what they're doing.
Let's get some predictions.
Because, I'm just saying, we've had Michael Cohen, we have this crazy woman who says Trump jumped over the, like he's a, it's like Harrison Ford in Air Force One.
Diehard?
Oh, her!
Yeah, he jumped over, he jumped over, there's a whole barrier there, I don't even think A body could fit through it.
But according to her, he jumped from the back seat of the limousine to the front seat, knocked a Secret Service agent aside and grabbed the wheel.
Yes.
Like he's, you know, I said he's Harrison Ford in Air Force One.
But this woman, I don't remember her.
No one does.
She's making all kinds of allegations against me that are completely absurd.
I groped her in front of 100 people.
Geez, I didn't know about that one.
in front of a hundred people and I somehow I... she had a coat on because it was zero
degrees out and I put my hands all the way up her dress and her coat which means I would
have to have gone down on my knees.
Oh my God.
And you know the press writes it like it's true.
It's completely untrue.
She never mentioned it until she wrote her book.
She testified a hundred times, didn't remember.
She put it in a book because that's one of the things she featured to sell her book.
Now, I know how crooked the publishing industry is because when I published my book, they wanted me to put two or three things in it that weren't true.
And I told them, I'm not going to do it.
To hell with you.
It's my book.
It's my reputation.
And I'm not going to do it.
I'd rather not sell any books.
And this happens all the time.
I usually tell people with these crappy books, the worst part of the book, you don't need to read it, the worst part of the book is advertised to sell it.
The rest of it is probably just pablo.
Right.
But then, that brings me to, how many of these Democrat supporters and Democrats themselves, women, have brought false rape allegations against the Republicans?
And they never get punished for it.
But then, the one credible rape allegation, Tara Reade, they call her a liar.
Right.
With Biden.
Yeah, there's the same degree of evidence, and probably more on that one, as all of the other ones.
No, there was no evidence on the others.
It's an allegation.
Yeah, and in fact there was someone contradicting.
Right.
Yeah, there's...
I mean, it's a totally... Police state.
It's a totally two-tiered system.
Right.
There are two systems of justice, which means there's no justice, because there can never be two systems of justice.
The minute you have two systems of justice, it means that one group is getting injustice.
That's right.
How about Trump is indicted for moving papers around Mar-a-Lago?
The other guy isn't indicted.
And Trump has an arguable right to take those papers as a president.
Right.
The other guy was vice president.
No right to take any papers out of the White House.
He took him as senator.
It's a criminal for a senator to do it.
And he has them.
He has them in every place that I can... Chinatown.
He has them every place where he has access to the people paying him.
Chinatown, two institutes that are funded by China, and his garage.
Next to a guy who was a business partner of the spy chief of China, his son.
Oh, I didn't know that.
His son, I'll show you the picture, his son passed those documents every day for a year.
Wow.
And he was the closest guy to China, and there are entries in the hard drive that look like intelligence reports reprinted by Hunter.
Wow.
And he couldn't have written these, so There's at least probable cause to believe that his was not just a dispute over who owns these documents, but he was doing it to give some value to the country that gave him $30 million, that gave his family $30 million.
And they expect us to go around like business as usual.
It's scarier than hell!
You and I remember the Cold War.
Imagine, let's pick a Republican and a Democrat.
Suppose Russia had given $20 million to Kennedy or to Reagan.
Yeah.
He didn't tell us about it.
And we found out about it.
I think they'd have been put in jail for the rest of their lives.
Or hung.
Yeah.
No matter how popular they were.
I mean if they were convicted of treason.
I'm picking the two most popular of their party.
Every Democrat would have turned on Kennedy in those days.
And every Republican would have turned on Reagan.
Right.
No matter how much they loved him.
It's unthinkable that they would have taken money from the Soviet Union.
It's unthinkable that his family took money from China and we made him president.
Yeah.
Wow.
And then we can see the decisions that he makes that are pro-China or anti-American.
Which is all of them.
Right.
Well, what's the Ukraine deal?
I mean, there are so many things I want to ask you.
What about the movie, Dinesh D'Souza, Police State?
Well, Police State is, unfortunately, About as true as you can be.
And it's a movie that if I saw it 10 years ago, I would have told you that could never happen.
I would have said to you, I'd have been like, I probably would have gone crazy.
That never happened in America.
That's crazy.
Those are the crazy conspiracy theorists.
Now I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Welcome to the winning team.
And also it gets very bad because now you can give me any conspiracy and I even know it sounds crazy, but I'll just say, well, let's just wait a minute and examine it.
You heard about Antarctica?
No, I won't go into it.
But I mean, I'm obsessed with all that stuff.
But what are we going to do?
We're going to vote him out of office.
That's what we're going to do.
Will we even be around for an election?
I mean, you know, look what's happening.
Do you think Trump's going to go to jail?
Are you worried about your case?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think they could get to the point Well, if you take the case in Georgia, it's hard to see how they'd get to the point of trying the case before the election because they got three in front of it.
But in any event, even if they tried one or two of these cases against him, the appeal wouldn't be over by then.
And I'm just hoping that Trump's lawyers take a case to the federal court, put them all together, From what I call it a book.
We're in about chapter 10 of Let's Frame Trump.
It started with Russian collusion, then the hard drive being Russian disinformation, for which I'm suing Biden for defamation.
I'm suing Biden for defamation because during the second debate, he said I'm a Russian pawn, my name, twice.
He knew I wasn't when he said it.
That's defamation.
They had validated that hard drive eight months before.
They knew it was valid before I did.
So they knew it wasn't Russian disinformation, and he said it anyway.
But that stuck with me for 17 months, and with him.
So they've tried so many attempts That I want them to put it together in one suit and say, hey, it's quite clear they violated his civil rights and all these cases should be dismissed.
They're not even crimes, I mean... And they're so poorly written.
Yeah, I mean, the one in Georgia, he's questioning an election.
His four lawyers are indicted for representing a man who's questioning an election and giving him the benefit of the doubt.
What am I supposed to do, not believe him?
I mean, people represent terrorists, and we believe that's a sacred right that they have.
A president doesn't have the right to have counsel that's on his side.
I know, and no jury.
I've got to agree with the anti-American swine in the newspapers.
Yeah, no kidding.
I mean, they've taken away all of his constitutional rights.
They can do that to the ex-president.
Well, they did it while he was the president, too.
How about when they searched my office, not my house, they searched my law office?
Yeah.
I have other clients.
Right.
Now, you know what the result of that was?
A year and a half later, they send a letter to the grand jury.
They couldn't find probable cause that I committed a crime.
Well, then what was the probable cause?
For the search.
For the search!
Right.
Did you lose it?
I mean, did Ray drop it somewhere?
What about the Patriot Act that made all that stuff possible?
Yeah, you know... What are we going to do about it?
Can we do anything?
Yeah, we're going to have to moderate that law.
And the law does give superpowers.
But we did that thinking we could entrust that to honest people to protect us.
Some of those things are very valuable if used by honest and honorable people, and very dangerous.
And it's a shame because when we cut those back, which we're going to have to do, we're going to be not as safe in a certain way.
Yeah.
But when you think of the daily erosion of our rights as against the one attack that might protect us from, we have to do it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because we're not America.
Right now, certain parts of America are not America anymore.
New York is not America.
New York City is a democratic dictatorship, right down to the judges.
And that was part of the problem with the case.
They were smart enough to do their cheating on the home field.
They did their cheating in, right?
Crooked Philadelphia.
Crooked Detroit.
Crooked Atlanta.
Crooked Maricopa County.
Milwaukee.
Crooked Milwaukee.
They didn't do it in places that are Republican or places that are neutral that are in between that go back and forth These are places with the Democrat Party like in they didn't need Chicago.
They could have used Chicago.
They didn't have to It's been Democrats for 58 years.
Mm-hmm.
And all it has done is deteriorate.
I remember I remember I remember the riots in Baltimore and the congressman who represented Baltimore got up and said Nothing's been done for this area of Baltimore in 40 years.
Well, he had been the congressman for 20 years, and his family had become millionaires.
Oh my God.
And I know that game because as mayor of New York, I replaced a mayor like that.
I replaced a mayor who became a multi-millionaire, although he had never worked outside of government.
He became a multi-millionaire because of bribes paid to inner-city broadcasting for cable television in New York.
He was one of the people that could vote cable.
And he got a company created for him, and the company was a shell company, and then they eventually sold it to Time Warner.
I mean, a lot of that original cable business is dirty as you can get.
I mean, there were a couple of big trials, but in New York, it was so dirty, and the Democratic politicians in New York fought over the millions they were going to get.
New York was one of the last places to get cable.
New York City.
Because our politicians The crooks who ran New York, all Democrats, couldn't agree on the millions they were going to get.
Eventually David Dinkins got a couple of million and he walks out and he tells his secretary, I finally became a millionaire.
And the secretary was ready to testify against him.
And they even had a document that almost conclusively proved it, and the U.S.
Attorney wouldn't bring the case because he's afraid there'd be a riot.
They control every aspect of the black community's lives.
Yeah, and it's the blacks who have been left behind.
So you have a very vital middle class, even rich black community now.
And I believe that over time, and this is one of the things that a Trump victory will do, I believe they're going to start losing some of that, which is why they're bringing in the... You know, in New York, a lot of people in America don't know this, but this is really sinister.
The New York City Council has voted to allow non-citizens to vote.
I know.
So they're getting ready for this.
Now, it's been held up because it's hopefully unconstitutional.
It is.
But then they'll try to change the Constitution.
But that's their big goal.
You can't keep people in subjection forever.
Because even if these people are poor and even if these people are hidden from things, it's a big world and they're seeing what's going on.
So they're going to lose that eventually.
And I think they're on the way to losing the Hispanic vote.
I do too.
And I hope that all the immigrants who are here illegally, if they are allowed to vote, please vote for Trump because, you know, he doesn't want you to live like the place you came from.
Right.
Fabulous.
Well said.
Very well said.
God bless you.
You're a treasure.
You're a treasure and I loved having you here.
Thank you.
Rudy Giuliani.
See you next time.
Why we were so nervous about having Rudy is because we're Jewish, so we're extremely paranoid, especially what's going on in the world.
We're so scared of everything.
And so my son was like, he's really Jewish because he's about to be a father of two quickly in a few months.
But he said, I think we're getting catfish.
I don't think this is Rudy Giuliani.
I didn't.
And we tried, he goes, I've tried to call them and they haven't called me back and I
think we're getting catfished.
I did a whole, I did an elaborate scheme, I can tell you guys.
But he was pacing, sleepless.
Well hold on, I called.
I said, we have to pre-interview the mayor just so I could hear your voice and make sure it was you.
That's why I did that call.
And then today, when you guys kept showing up late, I was like, I got tricked by AI.
Oh my goodness.
It wasn't Rudy, and they're not going to show up.
And we got to the bridge, right?
The first bridge.
I understand.
You know what I did?
I said, Ted, let's go to the other bridge.
And then it turned out that the other bridge was more crowded than that bridge.
And of course, the two ladies didn't let me forget it.
We were so scared, we're like, we got catfish on my birthday.
They let me know.
I said, he goes, what are we going to do if he doesn't show up?
And I go, well, let's give him this.
He's an older man.
And he needs a little more time.
I'm an alcoholic, too.
Are you?
No.
I am.
I'm a kid.
Well, anyway, I'm glad you're really here.
Oh, you don't drink?
I do drink, but I'm not an alcoholic.
Oh, good, because I do drink, too.
I love scotch.
I love wine!
Okay, I love wine too!
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