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Sept. 21, 2023 - The Roseanne Barr Podcast
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#015 Kari Lake | The Roseanne Barr Podcast
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Hi everybody and welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast.
Boy am I excited today.
I'm having trouble stifling myself with joy and anticipation and excitement that I feel
when I meet women who get it.
It's cool when you meet somebody that you totally connect with a woman that really gets
about what's important and has ideas about how we can get there together past all the bullshit that's been shoved down our throat 24-7 by the media and someone who can intellectually discuss the power of the media not only in the daily lives but in fact to influence a national election.
And that's very, very important.
I always talk about mind control in the media and, you know, I have someone that really was there, is there, and like kind of went from behind the curtain to the front of the curtain.
Has a peculiar and very interesting perspective on all of that.
And so I'm very excited to have her.
Now both of us are...
We can get ourselves into trouble at times.
So we have to be mindful of that.
So we have decided, or I decided, I told my son Jake.
Jake, say hi.
Hello everybody.
Thank you for joining us again.
I said, well, we're going to start with a prayer.
So I, you know, to guard our, you know, to help ask, to ask, you know.
Can you introduce Carrie real quick?
I am going to.
She's getting to it.
I'm just going to get to the prayer to say, It's very important when two people are together of the same mind and saying a prayer together.
I agree.
And my prayer partner today is my exciting and enchanting and only drop-dead gorgeous and thin Wow.
Governor of Arizona, Carrie Lake.
Welcome her, please.
Oh my gosh, thank you.
I am so excited.
I mean, I had to barely contain my excitement coming over today.
It's so nice to meet you.
I'm sitting with a legend.
I am, too.
I feel the same way about you.
And I always do start every day with a prayer, but you've seen some of my interviews.
I start every interview, nobody probably realizes this, but I just say, God, Use my voice, use my words, use everything you've given me, and speak through me.
Even those times when I'm snapping back at the media, I have prayed beforehand, so I really think that God was kind of okay with that.
I say those same words and I say, please guard my tongue that everything I say will come from my heart and be full of love, even when I'm smacking an S.O.B.
upside the head with my words.
And that's what I say because it's like so karmic that you would speak true to To power in a kind way.
I think it's much more powerful than screaming and burning crap down, you know?
I guess I do have a little bit of that ability.
I didn't realize it.
I talk about it in my book when I first jumped in.
I worked 30 years behind the scenes, well, in front of the camera, but I worked 30 years in the news.
I guess it's called the fake news.
I didn't think of it that way when I was in it.
Did you write your own stories or were they given to you?
I wrote a lot of it.
I mean, I'm a writer and a journalist.
I love being a journalist.
I went to the University of Iowa.
Oh, that was the best journalism school.
I don't know about that.
Well, it's one of them.
I think back in the 90s, any journalism school was better because you were actually learning journalism.
You know, you ask the stories, or you ask the questions, you keep your opinion out of it, you tell both sides of the story, sometimes there's three sides, and you don't put your opinion in, but somewhere along the way... Didn't objective go to subjective?
Didn't that change a tense?
Something like that happened.
You know, some people will say, Carrie, the media was always leaning to the left.
And they're right.
It really did have a left bent to it.
But I always felt that I could keep what came out of my mouth fair.
Unfortunately, during COVID, during the Trump years, I really saw the media, as I say, the shells, what do I, what is that phrase I used to use all the time?
They really cracked the shells off the nuts.
President Trump cracked the shells off the nuts and you were all of a sudden you revealed all the nuts in the newsroom and they just lost their mind so but I have always been in front of the camera you know when I became a news anchor you know two and three hours a day in front of the camera and you're not typically losing your cool when you're in front of the camera so I think I learned that skill and when I ran for office I remember I was so disillusioned with the media because I'd worked in it I was I just hated the direction it had gone putting out half-truths on Flat out lies.
No fact-checking.
Well, fact-checking by biased leftists.
Like I notice on Twitter, X, whatever they're calling it.
And I always am tweeting Elon Musk now with one of my fake accounts.
Oh, I wish I knew what that was.
We'll send it to you.
But I'm like, dear Elon, you know, I only ask important people.
I troll them, I guess you could say.
So, dear Elon Musk, whatever your name is, I go, I haven't once seen any fact checker point out Any disinformation comes from the Democratic Party.
I haven't seen it once!
Because fact-checkers are a biased bunch, and on the right, conservative, I call it pro-America, we love the Constitution, so we wouldn't think of saying, we're going to fact-check you.
We're going to try to hinder your First Amendment.
I think that's why.
But it's the right thing to do to fact-check people that are coming over the screens and and giving people information. That's the whole point. That's
why we have, you know, we're supposed to have freedom of the press. They're
supposed to be the what fourth pillar?
Arbiter of truth?
They're supposed to be the fourth pillar of what's important in this country, a free press that
like questions Congress, not, not...
Only the conservatives.
...that's what Congress says. I mean, the checks and balances are crazy.
Completely gone.
I'm not even sure though we ever had that.
Some people go, we used to have a free press and now I look back and I go, I don't know, based on what?
How do we know?
Has the government been telling us the truth?
I mean, how long have they been lying to us?
And if we're putting out information, how how legit has that information been for a long time.
It makes you question history when you realize that the news, kind of, the news,
you cover the current events, and then you move on to the next current event,
and then the way the news has covered it becomes your history.
How long has the news been lying?
How long has the government been lying?
I think you could go back and look at the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
Bingo!
That's kind of where it starts.
1963, wow, that's a long time ago.
How many lies have been told and how much of that has been cemented as the truth in our history?
Makes you question a lot of things.
Well, I think that's when they started, I think they got rid of him because he, whoever got rid of him, I don't think it matters anymore.
I don't think it was the magic bullet.
Yeah, I doubt that one, but boy if it...
If it was that one bullet, boy, that thing could sure move around pretty dang quick.
And then go through the guy in front of you and turn around and come back.
And be pristine.
No damage to it whatsoever.
Yeah.
Isn't that great?
It's fantastic.
That was another time, though.
Yes.
But I think the CIA's involvement in a lot of things is very disturbing.
We're finding out, you know, that they've been involved in a lot of the most heinous things that have happened.
In the world?
In the world, yeah.
What is their purpose, by the way?
I was just thinking of that the other night as I was reading another, you know, we find out their involvement in so many of the just awful things happening, and you go, what is their purpose?
What good do they do?
Why do we even have the CIA, honestly?
Well, because it's just a bunch of people that want to do experiments on us.
Probably.
Want to control us?
Allegedly.
No, they're past controlling us.
They already do that.
But, you know, they use the mind control to get us to be complacent, you know, and docile workers.
But that wasn't enough for them.
They didn't get rich enough off that.
So then it was, hey, we can do experiments on them.
Well, it was our intelligence committee.
It was supposed to be to protect America, just like Israel has Mossad.
It's what it was for, but yeah, they pretty much, they were involved in Bay of Pigs.
Boy, if this is protecting America, I think we could find another way to do it because it's not really working.
I know, and you know, it's not worth it because it costs trillions of dollars and we're not And it isn't working, obviously, because a lot of Americans are homeless, and our veterans are homeless, so that's kind of the proof that it doesn't work.
I can't believe I'm in the middle of the political world, but this is one of the reasons, when I walked away from the media, I just realized that, you know, I've been working since I was young.
I come from a big family.
I worked my way into my dream career.
And during COVID, I lifted my nose off the grindstone for the first time, just kind of slowed down and looked at the industry that I loved and said, what the hell happened to this?
This isn't even journalism anymore.
And it really started eating at me.
I started feeling physically ill reading the news.
It was like the news music would come up.
I'd hear the, you know, the theme song to the news, and I would just get a sick feeling, and this was going on and on, and we're putting COVID just nonsense out there.
Lies, really lies.
Well, I seem to... And I had to walk away.
I just had to walk away.
And then I end up... How amazing is God when you say, God, just take over for me.
Yeah, I know.
I don't know what I'm going to do, but I know I can't do this anymore.
It's immoral.
And He somehow puts me in the middle of the political world.
God's got a sense of humor, Roseanne.
I know, I say he's the greatest.
It might be better than yours, I don't know.
It is.
I steal a lot of material off him.
From God?
Yeah.
I mean, like when I get, you know, just how, like I was talking to this great woman artist and I go, where does it come from?
Is it just there all the time looking at her art, you know?
Yeah.
And she goes, it just comes from God.
It just comes in.
And I go, that's like my jokes.
The first time I was speaking at a Trump rally, it was January of, I think, 21.
No, 20... was it 23?
22.
I had to look at my house.
What year was that?
I know, I did that too.
And I was so nervous.
And, I mean, this was a big deal.
This was Trump's first rally of the year.
He chose Arizona.
He's endorsed me, and I'm going to be speaking right before him.
And we kind of have some ideas of what we're going to say for the speech.
The week was really crazy and the night before I just look at the team that were around me and I was kind of going through the script and I go, this is terrible.
This is not right.
They're like, no, it's fine.
I go, fine is not going to cut it.
This is not feeling right for me guys.
I was in almost a panic.
And we're trying to go through, you know, rewrite it, start over, rework what we have.
And I'm like, it's just not working.
It's not working.
I mean, and this is not like me.
Usually I can make something work, but I was really stressed.
I bet it is just like you, because I do that with every show, every speech.
It's the walking to the stage.
It won't come together till then.
Until then.
So I go to bed and I wake up in the middle.
I'm in bed with my amazing husband, Jeff, and I'm in tears.
I go, I don't...
He goes, you're going to be fine.
I go, no, you don't understand.
I don't know what I'm going to say tomorrow.
This is going to be 60,000 people.
I have nothing.
I don't know what I'm going to say.
I really don't.
And I was in tears.
I don't cry very often.
I was actually in tears.
It was fear.
And I went to bed and I just like prayed.
I said, God, give me the words.
Go to bed.
Three o'clock I wake up and I lay there and I start thinking of it and it's starting to come to me.
Like, the whole thing is coming to me.
And I think, oh, this is so good.
I'll just, should I just, I'll remember it in the morning.
Then I went, oh, no, no, you don't.
You're not going to remember it.
So I walked out into the, in the dining room, sat down.
I didn't even turn the lights on full.
The lights were so dim, I could barely see.
I took a pen and I just started writing it.
Exactly what came to me.
The messiest you could have ever imagined.
Oh, I can imagine.
Got it all out, put the pen down, went to bed, slept like a baby until I woke up.
And I woke up the next morning and I looked at that and I went, what the hell did I just write?
I just tried to decipher it, but I did.
I got it deciphered.
We tweaked it on the way out.
And I think it was a great speech.
It comes like that.
Yeah, that's all mine too.
I want to show her my notebook.
Talk about crazy.
And then I forget something, because my brain's going so fast, so I write it over here, and then I have to put a square around it.
And then I get offshoots, and it's just like... And does it look like somebody insane, literally?
Oh, absolutely!
It's like in A Beautiful Mind, his workstation.
Yeah, it's kind of like that.
That was a great movie.
When I first got into politics, I said to my team, I said to Ross, who's my communications director, I said, I'm not doing any interviews with these corrupt bastards in the fake news.
They're just going to do hit pieces.
They're going to ambush me.
I'm not doing it.
We will put our message out, videos and all that, but I'm not going to talk to them.
So one day I look at the schedule and I see the biggest fake news guy in town is doing an interview.
And I go, how did this get on the schedule?
It's only five minutes.
I know, they always say that.
I was only in politics for three weeks.
That's when you get in trouble.
And I thought, well, surely three weeks in he'll say, oh, you're running for office?
Why are you running for office?
That kind of thing.
No, we sit down to do the Zoom interview and right away it's like, boom!
It's just like hitting me with the nastiest stuff and I go, gosh, are you not going to just ask why I decided to run for office?
It's kind of interesting.
I left an illustrious career and I'm running for office.
Is that a question worth asking?
No, it was just an ambush attack piece.
What did he ask you?
He asked about donations to Obama and all this stuff.
Why did you vote for Obama and that kind of thing.
And I said, well listen, I've been a registered Republican since I was 18.
But when it came time to vote, I had covered John McCain quite a bit.
I knew quite a bit about John McCain and I was very much opposed to these endless wars.
I had two little kids when they started and I thought, If these things keep going, my son's going to go off and fight this endless war.
I'm all for a noble war if we have to, but not a ridiculous endless war.
And so we took a shot on somebody.
It didn't work out.
There were really two bad choices.
But that's kind of where it went.
I was so angry on the inside.
What a great answer!
Well, that is a concise and brilliant answer, though.
Well, the truth.
The truth is always a great answer.
I love that you speak the truth.
And you haven't quit either.
I don't know, where'd you get the, is it faith that keeps you strong in the, I call it the It's being Daniel in the lion's den.
That, um, I think about the Bible is really a big part of it.
I mean, you think about someone like Moses who God called to be a leader and he didn't want to, and he gave God every excuse, but I can't, I can't communicate.
I stutter.
I'm too old.
I can't do this.
And God said, no, I've chosen you to do this.
You can do this.
And he was one of the great leaders in the Bible.
Right.
You think of Esther.
I mean, the Bible has so many great stories.
If you, whenever you have a moment of discouragement, if you just open the book, You'll find the encouragement you need to keep going.
Yeah, it's a story that is why it's there.
Yeah, and that actually during my end months and year of my career, I got sent home because they separated people out.
We don't want anybody to get COVID.
You know, I had to send half the people home and I was thrilled to work from my home office.
But that's when I picked up the Bible off my desk.
Oh, really?
And I'm sitting there gathering dust.
Our churches were closed and I said, I'm going to just pull the Bible down.
I started reading it and I went, oh my gosh, this is so amazing.
I hadn't read it since I was 14.
And now I was in my 50s going, whoa, this has a totally different...
My life changed so much between the last time I read it.
When you're 14 and reading it, you're like, do I have to read this?
Yeah.
This makes no sense.
Well, I always loved it.
And during COVID and the world starting to fall apart, it had so much wisdom in it.
Yeah.
And so it really did change my life.
And definitely.
Is that what did it when you decided to leave journalism?
Was that the moment if you have one moment that It was, it was during COVID.
I, as I said, I kind of looked up my industry and I went, what the hell happened to it?
This is not even truth anymore.
And I don't want to be part of, I got into this to tell the truth, not to give half truths and lies.
Oh, so it wasn't because of.
The things they were asking us to do, having to do with COVID.
Yeah, I started to realize that as I was reporting this, people would reach out to me because they know me, and they'd say, would you consider doing a story about, you know, I noticed you guys covered these people who are dying, which is tragic.
Yeah.
But my whole family had it, they would say, and we just, it was like a cold.
Would you want to cover our family?
And I thought that would be a great story.
You know, we covered the story that somebody that got, you know, died from COVID.
We think they died from COVID because they might have died from a heart disease or whatever, but every death was labeled COVID.
And I had people reaching out saying, well, we had it and it wasn't that bad.
Would you want to cover our experience?
And I wanted to cover it, but there was no interest from the higher-ups.
Every half an hour we did the COVID numbers.
There's 45 new cases of COVID.
The hospitals are at 90% capacity.
The ICUs are at 99% capacity.
So I started reading that and saying, there's 45 new cases, but just so you know, I mean, a lot of companies are forcing people to get tested.
Many of these people may not even have symptoms.
So you don't have to panic about that.
Hospitals are at 90% capacity.
They're built to be at high capacity.
We're not building hospitals to sit at 25 or 50% capacity.
ICUs are at 99% because it's cold and flu season and they're usually at 99%.
So I was reading the numbers that way.
Pretty soon they stopped having me read the numbers because I wasn't putting enough fear behind it.
That's when I realized, we're putting up fear, we're pushing division, we're pushing people to be isolated in their home.
Because when you're isolated, afraid, and sick, you know, you're more easy to control.
Absolutely.
And I was just, once it dawned on me that that's what was going on.
And also the more you sell all of that, fear and over the screen, division, the more that person becomes addicted to the screen.
Yep.
It's, who was that, what was that study where they, not Pavlovian, maybe Pavlov, Yeah.
Where they kind of get addicted to that.
Yeah, to the feel-good thing.
The stress that's coming.
Oh, the feel-good.
I don't know.
The feel-good thing with the mice and the dopamine.
Yeah, the dopamine.
Yeah.
That's the only pleasure and relief you get is sitting there looking at the screen that's totally brainwashing and lying to you.
Yeah.
No, fear is very addictive.
It is.
So, the COVID part was really weighing heavy on my heart.
And then the election, November 3rd, 2020.
That was my birthday.
You know, I had been asking my fans and compatriots and, you know, people, I want you guys to give me the best birthday I've ever had.
And so they said, oh, we will, Roseanne, we will.
A Trump victory.
And so I've said, thank you so much for giving me that beautiful birthday gift, America.
And I knew that you had.
And it just was wonderful to be a part of that great victory.
Of Trump.
We all know Trump won.
Well, that's what she's saying, yeah.
Yeah.
100%.
Especially on your birthday.
Well, I didn't say it out loud like you did, Kerry.
We can say it.
We're on Rumble now.
I was doing the fake news about it.
Oh, did you?
Well, no, I was going all around it.
To not say it.
Oh, to not say it.
Because, I mean, can you imagine you can't talk about... Yeah.
You can't question your government.
You can't question elections.
Since when?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I grew up back when you were supposed to question your government and call out corruption.
And so when all of a sudden the election happened, I mean, I'm covering it that night, live on the air, and a producer gets in my ear and she says, um, Bret Baier, they just called it for Biden.
And I went, What?
No, they just called Arizona for Biden.
I said, well, people are still in line voting because there were some centers that the lines were long.
And even though the polling places were closed, if you were still in line, you could still vote.
And I go, that's impossible.
Florida had been done and over and they refused to call Florida for Trump because they didn't want to give any illusion that Trump was having a great night.
Trump had a killer night.
He won 12 million more votes than he won in 2016.
He won the most votes of any incumbent president in our history.
Ever.
And it was so massive, such a landslide that they had to, in order to boost this Practically, Cadaver, who was sitting in his basement, they had to make up the most fantastical BS line that he won 81 million votes.
Do you remember the toilet leak when they shut down the vote?
Yeah, the water main break, which was like a toilet leak when they finally researched it.
That's what it was.
And when did they stop?
Everyone gets kicked out, then the ballots start coming from under the tables.
Do you remember that ever happening?
Where they stopped the vote count?
Have you ever seen that?
So that was new.
Who ordered that?
Because they stopped the vote count in several states, five or six states.
The most important five or six states.
Somebody knows who did it.
Somebody said, we're going to stop the vote because we can't keep up.
The people voted for Trump in such a landslide.
You know, you don't lose 17 out of 18 bellwethers and then win the most votes in the history of our country.
That's why I wrote the song, 81 Million Votes, My Ass.
You wrote that?
She's on it.
I should say.
I didn't remember that.
I just remember hearing the song.
No, it's her speech.
No, she's on the song.
Well, I didn't write the music.
I don't remember anything anymore.
They wrote a song around her saying it.
I know, I saw that song.
She was a part of it.
I did a speech at CPAC and I was just talking about all the BS and I said, 81 million votes, my ass.
Well, that's why I named my tour the 81 million jokes tour.
I love it.
Are you really going to have 81 million?
Are you going to have more like how many votes Joe got?
Is it going to be more like 40 million?
Yeah, I'm getting, well... I think 65.
I'm going to say 65.
You think he got 65?
I do because it was a huge turnout.
I think he probably got around 65.
You do?
Yeah.
A lot of people voted with the media brainwashing.
The election denier.
I am an election denier.
100%.
I think he got...
30.
28.7 million votes.
Real, real votes.
I think he would have got the same as Obama and Hillary.
No!
Obama would get more.
The mail-in ballots is where there's so much fraud.
Of course.
And they poured a bunch of them in there.
But then that wasn't even enough, which is why they had to stop the counting.
Yeah, they had to count back.
And you saw how the numbers shot up for him.
It took them a week to print.
You figure it took them a week.
To get those ballots from China that aren't watermarked.
You know, the fake ballots.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
I know.
But this is the stuff.
I go on the internet for news.
Who knows if it's a lie or not.
Well, the media is lying so much.
The government is lying so much.
If the news was getting the counts, like you were sitting there reading, two million votes in what's it, who's it?
You don't think the military knows that?
They actually think it's the news that caused the election.
That's how brainwashed we are.
I am for election day, paper ballots, show your ID, and you count that.
That's when I started voting back in 1988, that's what they did.
Small precincts, you've got 500 voters on the roll.
Maybe 300 show up, maybe 500 show up.
And it's harder to cheat that way.
Polls close and you have a bunch of observers.
And now we can have cameras very inexpensively watching those observers and they count the ballots right there.
By the end of the night we know the winner.
They send those results back to Central and then they add them all up.
And we've done this before.
And people go, it's too expensive.
No, it's really all volunteers.
Maybe you have a few people hired.
It's actually a lot cheaper.
Oh, it would take too much time.
You mean more time than 11 days, which is what it took to count Maricopa County?
Yeah.
11 days?
I mean, that is...
You know, we could talk about, like, the fact that the voting machines all misfired in the Trump territories all over that county.
I should feel flattered, actually, if I weren't so angry about them stealing this, you know, trampling the sacred vote of the people of Arizona.
But in 22, in our election— They disenfranchised Arizona voters.
Cheat in so many different ways because our movement was so powerful.
Our movement is so powerful.
They pumped in a bunch of phony ballots with no chain of custody, about 300,000 of them, and they thought that'll be enough to stop her.
And then they went, oh crap, that's not enough to stop her because people are showing up in droves on election day.
And they found that out, they realized how many people were showing up, and they said, okay, we're gonna have to sabotage election day.
This is how I think they were thinking.
Of course you're tapping in.
And so they spent three days doing... They didn't test any of the tabulators.
They didn't do logic and accuracy tests on any of the tabulators that went out.
They did spend three days opening and breaking the seals, putting in new memory cards, and doing some secret testing where they found out that 60% of the tabulating machines would fail.
Then they rolled those tabulating machines out in the Republican areas.
And guess what?
About 60% of the machines failed.
200,000 plus ballots were unreadable, spit out on election day, when the majority of those people were voting for me.
Of course.
I should be flattered.
Didn't they find a couple hundred thousand of them in Joe Biden's garage?
Probably.
In the trunk of his Corvette.
How does he afford that, like, you know, classic car and three mansions?
You get 10%.
You know, he's the big guy.
He gets 10% of every deal Hunter does and Burisma.
I mean, it's just right in the pocket.
Hey, that's allegedly.
That's not allegedly.
If one of those accusations were true about Trump, they would have had, he really would be tarred and feathered in prison.
Absolutely.
Well, they tried, what has it been?
Seven years to find one thing they could get him on and they've all failed.
But you know what?
It's the process to punish.
Yeah.
It's like, it is a witch hunt because it's like, you know, they know that their case is never going to be heard or if it is they could manufacture that much BS that, you know, by the time it gets to a higher court, it will be dismissed in a heartbeat by real lawyers.
Yeah.
I'm hoping that.
Unless they can bribe them, too.
Trump has his day in court and is able to put out this evidence of 2020 because I think everyone really knows it's rigged.
Well, that's what I wanted to ask you about, like, knowing broadcasting and being a broadcaster as, you know, me too and him.
Like, the way it seems to be unfolding, It does have all the signs of being the greatest show on earth.
The Trump trial.
Oh my gosh.
Did he call it the trial of the century?
You were probably in L.A.
when the O.J.
trial happened.
Yeah, I was his neighbor.
Yeah, we were in Brentwood.
Oh, that's kind of creepy.
It was really weird.
Did you hear anything that night?
No, because he did it over a few blocks over.
Yeah, like when the hiding of the- Alleged.
No, that wasn't alleged.
Yeah, it wasn't alleged.
Yeah, the whole thing.
Yeah.
Well, I always said that.
They would say, is Joe Biden the president?
I said, did Joe Biden win?
I said, yeah, he won just like, what, how was the, Joe Biden won just like OJ Simpson didn't, is innocent.
Yeah.
Joe Biden won just like OJ Simpson is innocent.
No, I think that the media will cover it.
I'm hoping, well, they're going to have to cover it.
Oh, they've already ordered TVs in the courtroom.
I wonder what they'll do.
Some people say that they will... It'll be so embarrassing.
You'll watch all the evidence being played out and then you'll go back to the newscasters and they'll be trying to act like that didn't happen and backtracking and panic.
It's gonna be so much fun to watch that.
Wouldn't it be?
And to actually witness Actual fact being shown on TV.
And then having to watch them come out from that and watch their reaction is going to be so priceless.
The greatest show on earth.
I am too.
But you know that they would schedule it the day before Super Tuesday for him.
I know.
It is, when he says this is election interference, it is so true.
And I love that the Google, what did they say about Google?
Talk about election interference.
Forget all that with them.
Phony machines and the handwriting, which you won.
Well, you're still in court.
We're still in court.
As a matter of fact, at the time of this taping, we, last night, just filed our appeal, which is really good, in the appellate court for our original case.
Oh, great.
Our original case.
So that's moving forward.
And it's a really good appeal.
You know, the question is, can we get a judge who's willing to be courageous and do the right thing?
And it does take courage.
It takes a judge who's willing to say, we've got to set this aside.
Well, I pray for them.
That's what I like to do here, is pray that God will, you know, there's got to be one judge there who believes, you know, in God and, you know, the Constitutional Republic of the United States.
And realizes the weight.
And knows that the weight of the whole world is in his action.
So I hope that God would give him the courage and the decency to do it, because it needs to be done.
They would be really a savior of this country if they do the right thing.
My theory is, and we've kept many cases out there, we've got two court dates coming up at the end of September.
We're trying to get our hands on the envelopes that people mail their ballots back in to prove that they don't have signatures, they have chicken scratches.
So we have a two-day trial to see if we can get our hands on those, because they are public records.
And we're hoping that Just having these cases out there in front of the judge as more and more and more information.
I'm mad that they're not even I haven't seen anything on Twitter X whatever I have, because I can't sign into other ones.
I'm too dumb for that.
But there has not been a lot of coverage about the fact that you did win that, that they said that the... The way they did signature verification, comparing the wrong signatures.
Yeah, was it legal?
That's a big victory.
It is a huge victory.
That'll help in 24, which is great.
But you know, they'll find another way.
I think, actually, I think they're worried that they won't have enough methods to cheat.
I think they used them all and now they're like, that's why they want to make sure Trump stays off the ballot.
That's why they don't want me on the ballot.
They came to my door, a powerful person in politics came to my door and tried to bribe me out of running again.
This was months ago.
He said, we'll offer you a great job title, a big salary, a position on a board if you don't run in 24.
And I'm thinking, why wouldn't you want me to run?
We've got a great movement.
I really wasn't thinking about running at the time.
I was finishing my book, trying to get out the door to go to CPAC, and I said, you do know that I walked away from a prestigious job and a large paycheck, a seven-figure contract.
I walked away from that, so I'm not motivated by that.
And I said, who wants me out that they're willing to do that?
Well, some powerful people back east is what the answer was.
What does that mean?
And then as I finally shooed the guy out of my house and I was kind of walking him out, he said, well, how much would it take?
What would it take to keep you from running, to keep you off the ballot?
Just one election cycle.
See, I think they don't want me on the ballot and Trump on the ballot because they know I've got a movement, Trump has a movement, and they won't be able to stop Trump with more Arizonans excited to get out.
Yeah, because it's a key state.
It's a very important state.
They have methods to cheat.
I don't think they're going to be able to employ enough of those methods.
Well, that brings me to the big one that I wanted to talk to you about.
Is that the whole Google story about forget all machines and that's enough.
Yeah.
But the real thing you know to me is about the mind control through the box.
Yeah.
You know that you're addicted to this country.
And Google is such a large part of that.
They would set algorithms to keep people from knowing the truth.
It's just terrible election interference.
Dr. Epstein just testified in front of a committee in Arizona about a week and a half ago.
He's horrified.
He communicates with me now, and he says it's horrifying what they're doing to control.
Even people who think, no, no, no, I've got a good grip on things, we're easily influenced by what comes up on our computer.
And who's really choosing what comes up?
I mean, we may be clicking on things, but we're clicking on things from a choice that we've been given.
Yeah, we've been given a menu that's set.
All we can order is what's on the menu.
It's not like we can go And check this out.
The menu is intelligent enough to know what you do want to eat and will tailor the menu to change for your likes.
So it actually is a programmed algorithm.
It knows what to feed you.
It knows how to make you mad.
It knows how to keep you on the screen.
It knows what information you will believe or not.
That's what Google does.
And what he testified, Epstein, he was talking about little things like, you know, predictive text.
When you go in, if you type in Kerry Lake in Google, it'll add three words.
Oh, I know.
Some of this stuff, I've seen it.
No, this is a fact.
And it wasn't just Epstein.
How about Carrie Lake's policy?
No, no, no, not policy.
It's always something like, you know, some BS thing that it adds.
Have you ever typed just your name in and then you see what else comes up?
Oh yeah.
And be Roseanne Barr.
What do you think?
What would you like to see pop up?
Oh my God, it's changed over the years though.
I've been a fan of doing that, of the story they spin about me.
Let me do it right now while you talk.
Oh my God, it's unbelievable.
If people really knew, they would be surprised, I think.
That's what I've learned.
It depends on what year.
You know, it had a lot to do with my going up and then being at the top.
Because, you know, when you're going up, they like you.
Yeah.
And then when you're at the top, they really like you.
Until you're, you know, you're old meat and you start to stink.
No, I think it's not that.
Then they gotta take you down.
Until they realize, oh, we can't control this one.
We don't have control.
We better take her down.
Well, but I think they get tired of the shiny thing after a number of, you know, after a while, no matter who.
So then they go, oh, because somebody told me this.
Then they break you down so they can build you back up again to break you down again.
To make you a good story.
Well, because their whole view of personalities or stars is, you know, whether they're using you You know, to send a message to the viewer.
And it's all like economics, you know?
Manipulation of minds.
Well, during the campaign, I mean, I believe what he said, he said when he testified, Dr. Epstein, he said that Google was a part of, I think he said like 4% of the vote, that I lost because of that.
I think they said 14%.
It was enough to overturn it.
Oh yeah, it was enough to overturn it.
Well that and, you know, along with all the other things like the voting machines and the signatures.
Right, oh my gosh.
I mean, we won in a landslide.
I'm 100% convinced of that.
Me too.
Without a shadow of a doubt.
But I remember during the campaign, I forget which outlet did some sort of a poll, and they did all the research and they looked at, You know, negative stories, news stories on politicians, Democrat and Republican.
Of course, the Democrats never have negative news stories.
I mean, they could literally, like, skin a cat.
No, it's true.
And, you know, be an axe murderer, and they would be covered.
That's election interference.
And then Republicans or conservatives, especially MAGA conservatives, 87% of the stories were negative about Republicans.
And I'll never forget it.
I'm reading it going, this is terrible.
87% are negative about conservatives?
That's BS.
And then the last line, there was one candidate that had a hundred, in our survey, had a hundred percent negative coverage and it was me.
Oh my gosh!
How biased is that?
That just shows you right there who they're after and afraid of.
It's like they speak in one voice for their boss.
That's what corporate is.
The Media Matters, which is a Soros entity, they put out kind of the talking points for the day, and the biased journalists go, okay, who should we be going after?
I'm at the top of the list.
There was a headline that said, the most dangerous politician in America.
I thought it was a story about Trump, and I figured I was just mentioned in it, and I scrolled down and saw my picture, and I thought, Wow, they are really nervous.
I mean, think of how nervous they must be because it shows you they are not willing to have outsiders who they can't control.
It tells me they can control almost everybody who's in DC.
Well, of course they can.
Whoever they are writing the nastiest stuff about is who you should be supporting.
Yes.
That's what I've learned in all of this.
I think that's fairly clear.
To most Americans at this time.
I hope so.
I mean, think of the things they've said about you.
That is just a symphony of hate.
And then you meet the person behind it and you're like, this is one of the most charming, wonderful people.
That's what I've learned in being in politics.
These people that have been castigated and torn down in the media.
I've met a lot of them.
I've had the great pleasure of meeting them.
President Trump.
I've gotten to know him.
He's a friend.
Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene.
I've met all these people, and they're wonderful people who love this country.
Not a thing of what's being written about them is true.
Of course not.
Well, look who's writing it.
A bunch of leftist nutballs, yeah.
Well, they have no ability for self-reflection, it seems.
Because they're walking down the street, waving their wieners in our face, and then telling us we're offensive.
Think about it.
I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're absolutely right.
I know.
A lot of judgment being pushed our way.
With a wiener in your face.
I will tell you one thing I did notice when I was running.
I didn't see that.
No, I wasn't going to say that.
Yeah, those guys walking down the street in the parades showing their wieners.
And he's actually a journalist?
No, no.
She's just saying the left.
Oh my God.
Well, you didn't specify.
She was talking about the left.
These are the people.
Oh, I'm in with their parades and their drag queens reading to children.
And then they say we're offensive.
Where did that whole thing start from?
Where did the whole, we've got to have drag queens in schools start?
It's called grooming.
It's been around forever.
It just came overnight though.
No it didn't.
It's been growing.
It puts like when you're trying to get in a really ice cold pool and first you put in your big toe and then you go slowly up to your ankle.
It's in increments.
Like fascism comes as incremental.
It doesn't just It's been working on it for a long, long time.
It has to go very slow.
Just like, you know, losing our rights.
You don't just take all of them away.
You don't tear the Constitution up like many, I think, in D.C.
really do want to do.
You just slowly take a little right away.
Yes, we're going to search everything you've got when you go to the airport.
I know there's the Fourth Amendment, but we're going to search everything on you, and you're going to go through these detectors, and okay, we've got to swab everything, and we're going to do a pat-down.
And we agree to all of this.
Begrudgingly.
And slowly.
And then it's another... Well, because they were lying to us the whole time.
But we were tricked into, like, thinking lies are truth.
And having to go along with it.
And then what are you going to do?
Go, I'm not traveling?
You know, you don't have a choice on that.
So, but I think... I think people are waking up to go, you know what?
We can stop buying that bullshit.
Yeah, that's true.
We're at a great time for moms.
So I wanted to go into the mama bear thing.
I love that, but stop buying, because we can protest with our mouths.
Yeah, and our brains.
But we can protest by how we spend our money, and that's really critical right now.
And how you raise your kids.
We've seen it with Bud Light.
With the trans thing in Bud Light.
I noticed the trans thing, and it didn't sneak up.
It was pretty quick when I sent both of my kids a few years ago, right?
It was before COVID.
They were going to both do a summer camp.
And my son's was like a survivalist, like learn how to like start a fire.
I mean you are, you've got a backpack and you are out there surviving.
And my daughter's was a, she wanted to do like go into medical school or something like that.
So hers was at across the country at, oh gosh, it was in Nashville.
His was out in like Wyoming.
And he ended up having an asthma attack and had to come home early.
It was not good to be that high up, but we got him out.
But he called me from base camp and he said, I go, how did it go?
I mean, you learn, what'd you learn right away?
Like the first thing he said, well, we got out, we set the camps up and started a fire.
And then everyone sat around and go, oh, that must've been amazing.
And you're cooking or, you know, getting your own food.
And he goes, no, they started asking us like what pronouns we want to use.
Oh my God.
What?
I hadn't even heard of this crap.
Sorry.
And I go, did they teach you how to like not get eaten by a bear?
No, no, no.
We first did the pronoun thing.
And I said, well, was everybody like, you know, a boy who was a he and a girl was a she?
No, one of our, you know, counselors was they or whatever.
And I went, oh my gosh, that's so Unnecessary, weird, stupid.
And then my daughter, a week later, goes to Vanderbilt for this summer camp.
The first day she calls, she goes, you're not going to believe the first day we went through like all the rules.
And then we talked about pronouns.
These are two separate camps.
They're not associated with, you know, each other.
And this was dark.
That's when I noticed that I went, something is going on here that this is like, okay, time to roll out the pronoun thing.
Now we're going to roll out the COVID thing.
You know, they just keep rolling out crazy stuff.
And then the tried-and-true genetic shot.
Genetic gene-altering shot.
Whereas if you said that before, they would actually clip your video.
Turn the power off at your house.
Well, they probably will.
A lot of people are saying that they're afraid that before Trump is able to present his case on television, that they'll just shut the whole thing down.
Satellites, everything.
Blackout.
Like a media blackout?
Or electricity?
Grid.
I think they're trying to think of everything to stop him.
Nothing would surprise me anymore.
Like they're all going to move to Ukraine and take our government with them?
I'm starting to think that Zelensky is our president.
I know!
I have a feeling he calls Joe and says, you know, jump.
And Joe says, how high?
Or get us some more money right now.
And they roll it in.
It's so unconscionable.
It's more like Joe calls him and says, I'm going to send money.
You're going to wash it.
Take my 10% out and send it back to him.
Could be.
I think they've got him by the you-know-what right now.
Do you think they'll do anything?
What do you think of that Kevin McCarthy?
I hope that, I think they really need to consider obviously turning off the money to a lot of this stuff to the Jack Smith.
I know they sit there griping because they just want their three They want their 15 minutes of fame on the television while they're grilling each other, and then they don't do a damn thing.
They think that we're gonna be bought off by these TV moments and clips.
Well, and we are all watching now.
I mean, if you think about what we were watching, how many people would even watch, like, C-SPAN or, you know, 20 years ago?
A few people did.
Now, I don't watch anything Hollywood puts out.
I don't either.
It's not even interesting.
The real world is so much more interesting right now, and politics is where it's at.
And these guys are being watched now.
And I think that McCarthy is feeling that heat.
I mean, he's got his own people, own Republicans going, you better get on this.
Are we going to impeach or not?
Because they impeached Trump over a phone call.
I know.
They impeached him for nothing.
And we've got a mountain of evidence on Joe Biden, and they need to do it.
But, you know, I think they're thinking about it.
Because, you know, they're like involved in some really weird game that we're not part of.
But I watch both of their moves and it's like they're trying to... I think this is the end of a big chess game that they're trying to figure out who's really going to take the last move.
Really?
Okay.
And they're like... I think that somewhere they're like, If we impeach him, look what we're left with.
That's true.
Right?
So they might not want to go that way.
It might be better to go another way with him.
Well, one of the things I see is by keeping him out there, as disastrous as it is, because we're going to get disaster with Kamala Harris.
This whole administration is absolutely rotten to the core.
By keeping him out there, mumbling, bumbling, fumbling, It's reflecting on the Democrats.
Eventually they may be like, yes, we hope the Republicans impeach him because we've got to get rid of him, he's so bad.
Well, they're trying to make the Republicans do it, I think.
But they're going to have to do it.
And they know it.
And I think that's the chess game.
They know they're going to have to get rid of him.
So they're considering You know, putting in somebody else.
And they don't quite know who, because Kamala, she wasn't, you know, she's got citizen issues.
Citizenship issues.
Oh, I hadn't heard that.
Yeah.
Yeah, she does.
Well, she's even less popular than he is.
And then there's the fact that nobody... Oh my God, did you see her?
Where she tries to act like she's human.
I mean, allegedly, they're on the third clone with her.
Well, I don't know what's going on, but she doesn't quite have the syntax that kind of goes from the brain to the mouth.
No, there's no brain there.
There she is at 9-1-1, and they show the somber picture of everyone commemorating the 3,000 dead that are incinerated alive there, and here's her.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
In the photo.
Doing her fake laugh.
Cackling.
It's just horrible.
I can't believe we're here.
And she's just Obama, so he's already on his third term destroying our country.
And then, so if he gets her in there, that'll be his fourth term.
He's a little tyrant.
So you think Obama still has a lot of control?
Yeah, he told us he would sit in the basement and talk through, you know.
Have an earpiece in his ear.
You know, he came out and did a vent during the campaign for my opponent.
And he's just a shell of the man he was.
I interviewed him one time.
You did?
Yes.
Did you find him charming?
He seems charming.
It was in March.
It was the day before Trump pretty much secured the nomination.
It was Trump versus Ted Cruz, and the next day Trump had the number of electoral votes to win.
And so I asked Obama some pretty tough questions.
Most people go in there and softball him.
They gave me three minutes with them.
He spends the first two minutes filibustering so he didn't have to get many more questions.
But I asked him a few questions about Trump.
Oh, the American people will never elect Trump.
I will say this, when he walked in, actually I walked in the room, he was in there.
I was like, it was such a letdown because he had been built up by the media to be this larger-than-life character.
And I was like, wah, wah, you know?
It was like, this is Obama?
I mean, I'd covered him all these years and seen the video of him and the media,
just everything he did.
He'd move and they would be like, ah!
And so it was underwhelming.
He was very beta.
Not an alpha guy at all.
And not as big as I, I thought he was gonna be taller and he was kinda like skinny.
And we did the interview, it went fine.
Afterwards, I take a picture with him, they took a picture with everyone
who interviewed him that day, and it was my producer, me, and Obama.
And of course, that picture got, my opponents used that against me so much in the race.
They clipped the producer off, and I'm smiling in it.
I remember somebody said something funny in there, and I was smiling, pretty big smile.
I mean, I'm in the White House, which is pretty cool to interview a sitting president, and I'm smiling.
They took that picture of Obama and me, and they tried to make it look like we were at prom or dating or something.
So I'm like, oh, that picture that I took.
I was so happy to be interviewing a sitting president, and then that came back during the campaign.
It was like the picture they kept using.
At one point I woke up during the primary, and my opponent, who was a woman about my age, married to a 95-year-old billionaire, spending his money for a vanity project to run for governor.
We wake up, and there's pictures of Obama and me.
And it says, donated to Obama.
Carrie donated to Obama.
And I was so mad.
I'm like, ugh.
You know, first of all, 10 million Obama voters crossed over and voted for Trump and brought us President Trump.
Right, exactly.
And every day Democrats are waking up realizing the Democrat Party of yesteryear doesn't exist anymore.
Right.
And they're realizing that we've got to start putting America first.
And Trump was not some extreme right winger.
He put forth common sense policies that actually put our country first to try to get us out of the rut we were in under Obama.
Well, one Democrat who left the party and became a Republican is Trump himself.
That's right.
As did I, as did every sane thinking American.
As did Reagan.
But, I mean, there's just a certain point where it's like, hey, you guys are all a bunch
of thieves.
on both sides of the aisle and you're stealing public money and putting it into your private
Right.
pockets.
Right.
And we're on to you and we don't care what party you say you are.
That's right.
You have a number of things on my list here to fulfill or get the hell out.
And Trump did that.
He fulfilled everything he said he was going to do.
They said it would be impossible.
He'll start wars.
He'll crash the economy.
Just the opposite.
Didn't start a war.
He showed America, which is stuck on old ideology, can't grow beyond it, especially the left.
That you can have peace and prosperity, which they had totally forgot, and they thought all you could have was war and prosperity.
But it's so wrong.
War brought them prosperity.
That's right, because they're a war master.
Trump was not about the military-industrial complex.
That's right.
And the military-industrial complex runs the world.
I think we all know that.
Yes, we do.
And these are why presidents like JFK Didn't survive.
That's right He was he was pushing against that and and when many you push up against that they want you out And I think that's why they really wanted to bring Trump down peace.
There's no money The military industrial complex doesn't make a lot of money during peace.
They make trillions during war I wanted to say one thing, you know Martin Luther King he he spoke a lot about racism and you know They liked hearing that, that we were breaking down barriers and moving forward.
But when he started to talk about endless wars, he was shut up real fast.
And those were his last words.
Speech is about, you know, using poor people to go and make money through war and dying.
Sending our sons and daughters.
For a rich class.
For an endless war.
Vietnam is an example of that.
So many, a lot of poor people, a lot of, we lost a lot of African-American soldiers over there.
Yeah, they were the front lines.
Because, you know, obviously neither party cares enough to, like, do anything about You know, rehabilitations are just what's owed.
There's too much money.
Or to make anything right, to fix any problem that befalls any American, as a class or just as an individual.
But to make law after law, making it more difficult.
It's like the very reason for the Declaration of Independence itself, when in the course of human events it becomes impossible to live under this kind of bullshit, we have to come up with something better that actually works.
Throw off this government, yeah.
I think we're kind of there right now.
I think we're kind of there right now.
I think we kind of are there too.
Speakers, the truth tellers of yesteryear, the Martin Luther King, JFK, when they started getting too close to that flame, they were snuffed out.
Now too many of us understand what's going on.
They can't take us all down.
And I think that's what they're very nervous about.
And Trump showed us that you can get in there, you don't need 20, you don't need two decades to solve a problem like these Bozo's in DC had made us believe, oh, it's going to take two decades to solve this problem.
We'll promise you more.
We won't deliver.
He did it like that with everybody coming after him.
He inspired me to run.
I mean, I can't believe I end up this fed up mom in the middle of politics.
But when I walked away from my career and put my video out saying, I can't do this anymore.
Thank you for inviting me into your homes, but I just can't.
I can't do a job that is only half-truths.
And so I thanked the people of Arizona and it was immediate that people started reaching out and saying, would you run for office?
We really need somebody who would understand.
Yeah, it totally makes sense because they had seen your face and trusted you as a news broadcaster.
And I covered Arizona, so I knew the issues, I knew what worked, the politicians who didn't do the job.
Oh, you spoke truth to power.
Oh, that's always a good one.
I laughed.
I was like, there's no way these people must hate me.
I just left the corrupt world of fake news and they want me to go into the even more corrupt world of politics.
But then I really thought about our founding fathers and that's what they expected.
It was the merchants and the farmers.
Who went in, the doctors and lawyers who went and served, they ran for office as citizen politicians, and then they went back home to their lives.
They didn't stay there forever and ever and ever.
Yeah, that was a great thing that Trump suggested.
Term limits.
I have never heard another politician ever say that.
I loved it.
I like it, too.
I can see both sides, and I'm only saying this not because I like people like Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden, who've been there forever and ever.
They're wheeling in wheelchairs.
They've got one eye drifting to the side.
They can't speak.
I mean, this is what we deal with with Dianne Feinstein.
They've been there forever.
It's time to go.
What about that Fetterman guy?
Fetterman.
We're going to get a thousand more just like that if we don't get our elections straightened out.
They're just going to keep rolling out these imbeciles if we don't get our elections turned around.
But the reason I haven't always been for term limits, I'm really open to the idea, is because it's not in our Constitution.
And I believe that our founding fathers never envisioned that somebody would want to go and spend their whole life in Washington.
They didn't see that people would want to make that a career.
Because there's really no money in it.
There shouldn't be money in it.
But there's big money in it.
They have to go home and tend back to their farms and businesses.
So they didn't put that in.
But they also thought that our elections would be fair.
If we have honest elections, we're going to vote these losers out.
But it's impossible to vote these losers out when our elections are rigged.
Well, it's also like another thing that's interesting to me is, you know, ballot access of a candidate.
That's how they're going to try to take you and Trump down next is ballot access.
Because, you know, I ran for president in 2012.
And it became all about ballot access, and that was very, very difficult.
It's hard.
You have to pay money, don't you?
No, well you do, but that's just a normal amount.
But I only got on three ballots out of 50 states, and it was so hard.
And it was miraculous that I even got on three.
So, you know, that's the new weapon that nobody's thought about yet.
But I don't think they'll ever stop.
It's not like even if he would win again, or maybe even if you would win again, That they would stop.
Don't you fear that?
I think when Trump wins, I don't want to say if, when Trump wins, I believe his second administration is going to be, you know how fast he worked in the first administration and he had everyone coming at him?
This one's going to be like whiplash.
He's going to go and get stuff done real quick.
And we're going to root out a lot of these corrupt individuals.
But I mean, it seems like that's all there is.
I mean, to say root out, Geez, the whole damn thing's full of them.
Well, I told some people who ask me that all the time.
Maybe this is your chance to run again, Roseanne.
Well, I told some people who ask me that all the time.
I said, I don't need to run again, because in 2012, I declared myself the de facto president
of the American people for life.
I love that.
I'm not for dictators, but if we had to have one, it might be fun to have Roseanne Barr.
It's as a grandmother figure, because I wanted to ask you this.
Why is that?
I don't know.
I've shut it off.
It's like the refrigerator's going rogue over there.
I think it's your air conditioning is overriding.
I'm sure nobody can hear it.
I'm sure no one can hear it.
Nobody said anything and it came out on Candace too.
Nobody said anything.
So hopefully no one hears it.
Nice.
Yeah, it's your house.
Oh, well, everything's wired backward here.
But anyway, The mama bears.
Yes.
The whole mom thing, I think this is the dawning of the age of the mom and the grandmom.
I agree.
It's our time in every way.
You know, when you're a mom, you're busy, you're packing the kids lunch, you're trying to look through their book bag and make sure they've got all their homework ready for school, getting them ready.
You know, we're busy and we're trying to protect our babies and we've seen what's happening to them.
And now we go, Crap, is anybody going to step forward and help solve this problem and save America?
And we have to now jump in and save America.
And that's okay, we can.
I always would love to put things on moms because they can get stuff done.
And they have unleashed a monster.
In the best way.
Monster is the right word.
You've got mom and you're fed up.
Have you ever had mom, when mom's mad, it's one thing.
You're like, okay, mom's mad.
But maybe I should be asking Jake.
When mom's mad, it's one thing.
Right.
When mom's pissed off, it's a whole new level.
Yeah, absolutely.
When mom's mad, you might try to butter her up and make her happy.
If she's pissed off, you avoid her.
We've got a bunch of pissed off moms out there.
Yeah, we do.
And I believe it's going to be the moms that help save the world.
I know it!
It always is!
We were talking about this last week.
Who's going to do this?
You know, speaking of the Bible, people have been brainwashed by Bible babblers, but every story in the Bible has a woman that gets the job done.
Starts the job and finishes it.
And people really need to reread it and look for that.
You know, every time you read it, it's like a time machine wherever you are,
and you'll get something completely different out of it than you ever did before.
Totally.
But read it for the women that are often unnamed, or removed, or diminished.
But their stories are very, very interesting, particularly to women as far as it comes to
mustering the will and the desire to, you know, manifest goodness here on behalf of children
and other people's children.
Well, it's that motherly instinct that God gave us.
I know.
It breaks my heart that a young generation has been told that, you know, I don't want to have kids.
Why would you want to do that?
That's such a burden.
I can live a selfish, fun life without kids.
It's like that is the greatest gift ever to be a mother.
I think all women have that motherly instinct.
Even if they don't have kids, they have it.
They just don't know it.
It definitely deepens after the act of birth.
After the act of birth.
It's so big.
It is like you become a superpower, a powerhouse.
You become a superhero almost.
Protector of your babies.
So then when we start seeing them going after our kids.
That's how I see you.
Because I see you, if I was a Hollywood casting director, you would be the one, you'd be wearing the Wonder Woman suit.
Okay.
Suck in the gut.
You've got the Wonder Woman look.
You've got that determination, and you're looking off into the future like this.
I'm very hopeful about the future, by the way.
I know that there is so much.
I mean, it's like all hell is breaking loose, but because of my faith, and I know that God does not lose this battle, and we're here.
I don't know how it plays out.
Now, I would prefer if it was on my timeline.
We did this a little quicker, and we Got things cleaned up a little faster.
More efficiently.
But it's all about truly bringing people to God.
And when times are tough, that's when you find yourself down on your knees praying.
At least that's been the experience in my life.
Hard times turn people around.
Yeah.
Hard times create strong men and women.
So I believe we have a lot of strife to come.
Yeah, we're rushing ahead long.
through that and hopefully come together. I think we have a lot of people who are going
to be waking up as we're watching the economy falter and we're not slow walking into, we're
fast walking into war. People aren't even paying attention.
So I think things are going It already is.
I think it's like 17% cost of everything is up by 17% or more.
Wages are down by 3%.
You don't have to be a world-class economist to know that that does not work in the long run.
That's Bidenomics.
But do you have an antidote to Bidenomics in the way of, can you suggest Because I always think about, I know what it's like to be poor, so I suggest ways to save money for regular people.
Do you have some suggestions on that?
I grew up poor as well, although nobody told us we were poor.
I think everyone was kind of poor back then.
Yeah.
And we had to work from a very young age.
And, you know, I'm a very good worker.
I always know that if I can say, please, thank you, and clean, I can find a job.
Because I've got the work ethic and that was the greatest thing I got from growing up in a big family.
I don't want to say work harder because I know many people who have two and three jobs.
What I think the anecdote is to Bidenomics is Trumponomics.
It's getting Biden out and Trump in.
We know Trump can turn this around very quickly.
The biggest thing we have to do is immediately open up our energy again.
You know, Trump had our energy.
We were energy independent, energy dominant.
We were just about to become the world's biggest exporter of Oil.
What the hell?
I know.
I mean, talk about kneecapping us.
Yes.
Just before we start turning a profit.
And this Green New Deal is going to destroy America.
And the world.
And the world.
Do they think that, you know, forcing us to have paper straws is really helping anybody else?
It's not really... The straws aren't getting in the ocean.
Well, it's about tasks.
You know what's in the ocean?
The masks that the left is trying to force.
There's masks.
I've been walking and there's masks everywhere.
And now everything's gone to like plastic.
Everything's to go now.
And it's like, okay, this is a bunch of garbage because they wouldn't let us eat into the restaurant.
You had to take everything to go.
It's creating a bunch of garbage.
But you know, we have an abundance of oil and natural gas and we need to be drilling like crazy.
I don't want to have to rely on any other country for our energy.
Think of the jobs.
Look what's happening in Germany.
They can't even afford to heat their homes.
They've turned their back on nuclear and they're reliant on energy from Russia right now.
They're making Russia really rich.
And Joe Biden wants to do that.
He does.
That's what I don't understand about the American people.
We were a superpower, and he wants us to not be that anymore.
This is a huge shift in who the superpowers in the world are.
We're helping Russia and China against us.
We're forcing them to team up against us.
And how shocking to find out that Joe Biden has been taking money from Russia and China.
It's very weird.
It's a weird coincidence.
And Ukraine.
Wow.
How does that work?
And now we're pouring hundreds of billions into Ukraine.
I love that you go, that's because the cartels own this Congress in Arizona.
Boy, I was like, boy, she's really telling the truth.
And you look at the, so, so, you know, Trump has great policy.
I think our policy was Arizona first policy and it was actually for,
I love that you go, that's because the cartels own this Congress in Arizona.
Boy, I was like, boy, she's really telling the truth.
Cartels do.
They all took cartel money.
I just got an email from a border patrol agent.
He said it is so bad on the border.
We have absolutely no control.
The cartels are completely in control and people are just walking over.
They're not even checking people in some of these places.
They're just walking across.
I feel so bad for those people.
It's bad because Arizona knows what happened.
They know that election was rigged.
They know.
We sat and watched right in front of our eyes as they rigged this election and sabotaged election day and then just acted like, OK, everybody just deal with it.
We're going to put these frauds into the government and steal our government from the people.
And they thought that I would go away and go, OK, well, we'll try again next.
No, that's not how it works.
If somebody steals something from us, we stand up and say, no, that's ours.
We're taking that back.
And they had many people, Roseanne, who were Republicans, who said, don't fight this.
Just run again.
Oh, I'm sure.
If we don't stand up on these rigged elections, we're not going to have a country.
Well, they're all on the take, too.
They must be on the take.
Of course.
Why else would the Republicans in Congress in Texas Let him pursue this... Oh, what's his name, Jake?
I can't remember.
Paxton.
Paxton.
Who, by the way, at the time of this recording, was just acquitted of all charges.
Oh, I love it.
Acquitted of all charges!
Alright!
It grinds fine.
Grinds slow, but fine, Jester.
And his attorney was so good.
Yeah, it was.
That guy was good.
Busby, oh my God.
He needs to have a reality show.
He totally needs to have one.
You need to send him here and do an interview with him.
I would love to interview that attorney.
Jake, get on that.
I will.
I'm a big talker.
I'm from Iowa.
I just gab, gab, gab.
So what's cool about it is it sucked for Paxson, but boy did it show the people of Texas.
Who's who, what's what.
Because the people of Texas overwhelmingly voted for him.
And to have these Bush establishment guys try to impeach him because they couldn't win at the ballot box.
They can't win properly.
It really laid out who's who.
And I think that everybody who was trying to impeach Paxson is going to be voted out of office.
I hope so.
Run out of town.
I hope they don't replace him with crooks from the other side though.
That's another prayer is that we have to say that Speaking of women, and particularly grandmothers, I'm always saying this, and granddads if they're capable.
Most of them are too tired if you notice.
But the women, go in there and run for office if you are a decent person who feels that you have a duty to this country and to the Constitution to protect the children who live here.
That they all have a chance to have a decent education, not controlled by perverts in the teachers' union.
The teachers' union is probably the most dangerous union out there.
It is the enemy of American children.
They don't even like teachers, to be honest.
No, they hate good teachers.
They use teachers as political pawns, intentionally keep their salaries low.
Right.
Even though we're pouring more and more and more money into education, it's going to the administrators.
Right.
Teachers, they keep their salaries intentionally low so that they can roll out every election cycle and say, we don't pay our teachers enough.
I can't afford the stuff in the classroom, all that stuff.
They hate the parents, and they don't like the kids.
No.
It's all about power, and I believe in indoctrinating our children.
It's pretty obvious right now.
Of course.
They've got a whole agenda.
You know, it's a communist takeover.
Would you homeschool your kids?
I did!
Oh, you did?
Yeah, my youngest is 28 and I did homeschool him.
And boy, did we have a blast.
I'm so pro-homeschool.
I can't even imagine you as a homeschool teacher how fun that would have been.
We went to Paris for art history.
We got to fly to Paris and stay there for a week and go to the Louvre every day for art history.
I mean, regular parents couldn't do that, but some parents could.
And I got to sit with the tutor, make sure they weren't a pervert.
How did you find the teachers?
It's a difficult search.
Always check references, parents.
I just have to, mothers, who do most of that.
Really call, even meet, investigate, fully vet, all references of people that are going to be around your children.
Moms don't do that because you're so busy.
You take another mom's word for it.
But look what happens in this world.
Yeah.
And you know, even just a written reference, I mean, that could be obviously forged so easily.
Yeah.
But also if you have a bad gut feeling.
I had a friend one time say, I think I need to get a nanny cam because I just have a feeling.
Oh, that's a given.
I go, don't bother with the nanny cam.
If you've got a gut feeling, change course.
Yeah.
If you've got a bad gut feeling and you feel like you need a nanny cam, I say you do need a nanny cam, and you should advise the nanny that you will be filmed 24 hours a day, and if you have a problem with that, then don't take the job, but that is a requirement of this.
That's what I did.
I don't trust nobody around my kids, not even myself, because I'd like to beat the hell out of them.
No, I'm kidding.
I don't believe that.
I'm seeing Jake here and he looks relatively normal.
Relatively, thank you.
I'm like, this is cool.
The psychological damage doesn't show.
You always wonder what would Roseanne Barr be like as a mom.
Of course, we watched the Roseanne show, and I love the character, and I think it was actually very close to who you are, right?
Was it, Jake?
Yeah, it was.
It was the network PG version, I would say.
Oh, so it was a little crazier?
It should have been an HBO single camera series.
Maybe you do the Roseanne Barr podcast and then you do a reality show as well.
Well, we're sort of weaving it in.
Jake, of course, he's gonna say something like that, but... No, you were a great mom.
You know, Jake weighed almost 10 pounds when he was born.
She does this every episode.
Oh my gosh!
That's like twice as big as my kids.
Oh, yeah.
How did that go?
Oh, it was the worst thing I've ever, ever lived through.
Was it a C-section?
No, I wish it had been because I mean, you can just imagine.
I hate to say it to the governor.
I'm not going to say it because you're the governor.
You can find a way to cleverly say it.
Well, I had to push really hard for two solid hours.
And he was my what?
Fourth child?
Yeah.
So I was used to childbirth, but no, this was ungodly.
And when you push really hard, you know, like having a lot of people get constipation and things can result, that you need PrEP-H4.
Yeah, she got it now.
Okay.
I get what's going on.
Unbelievable.
So Jake should never complain about anything that I've done.
That's why she's bringing it up, Carrie.
I think he should never.
He should hold his tongue.
Don't you agree?
Yeah, I do.
Ten pounds is quite a feat.
I will say this.
When your first baby is born and you're pregnant, you're like following every day.
Okay, oh, I'm going to grow a little bit.
Second child, you're like, oh my gosh, it's due date already.
But I loved birthing the children.
Women always want to put their horror story out there, and I'm like, it is the greatest thing.
But the one thing the books don't talk about is what happens after.
Your body's kind of recovery from that.
There aren't a lot of books written about that.
It's kind of like a science project.
It kind of is, yeah.
It's a bit gory.
It is.
It's like none of the books quite mention what happens like in the days and weeks after where your body's trying to come back together and heal while you're taking care of a baby and you obviously couldn't even sit down.
No.
Probably.
You had to stand and oh my gosh.
Yeah, well I laid on my side.
But it's totally worth it.
If you're out there and you're pregnant, you're gonna be great.
I always tell this to women I see that are pregnant.
I go, I'm so excited for you.
I'm jealous.
I love the act of birthing the child.
It was just so beautiful.
Oh my god, you're speaking like an alien from another planet.
I know, I loved every part of it.
Every single part of it.
But you only get that experience as many babies as you have.
When my wife was pregnant, her mom, she called her and she's like, I'm going in tomorrow.
And her mother just started giggling, like an evil giggle.
And I said, what's so funny?
And she goes, because I know what you're about to go through.
And she thought it was hilarious.
So we were terrified when we got to the hospital.
I hate it when people scare these moms.
We were terrified.
Well, sometimes what happens now with moms now, and the hospitals will intervene, like
It's a drop of a hat to a c-section.
Yeah.
When sometimes they're, I think they're rushing to that.
And I think women are so nervous about it that they almost want that.
It's like, yeah, it's way better.
You are the single most capable person on the planet to push out that baby.
Now the C is way better.
I have to tell you, I forced him to give me a c-section with my fifth boy because I referenced Jake and the roids.
I said, I cannot live through this again.
This kid's going to probably be even bigger.
I just, for reference, Jake, my kids were like 10 pounds at one year.
Oh my god, really?
So that's like pushing out a baby that's one year old, yeah.
They were 11 pounds.
They were little.
Oh my God.
Now they're normal size, but they were kind of little.
Oh, wow.
See?
I mean, I have to say, I like your approach on childbirth, Carrie, though, because, not to get all sappy, but, and I didn't obviously do much during, but it was a very spiritual experience for me and my wife.
We weren't overly religious when we went in, but during the process of childbirth, we were communicating.
We probably creeped our doctors out.
I kept saying, like, God is here with us.
We connected on a level we never did, so next time we get pregnant, God willing, we're excited for it.
We're probably going to do it at home.
Ah, forget that.
Back to the C-section.
No, we're never doing a C-section.
Back to the hemorrhoids.
Hemorrhoids are better than a C-section.
No, I think you're right.
It was hard.
I believe that.
pregnancy is a miracle that God, a miracle from God that lets you in on.
It's so cool. Yeah, it's a good way to put it. It's like it is just the greatest thing
ever and I wish that more young people, you know, not like too young, but yeah I
wish more young women really looked at it that way and viewed it that way.
I wish more people would be so happy about it and have your view of it because so many people are unhappy with it and suffer through it.
But how great to have the viewpoint you have.
That's good.
Well, coming from a family of nine, you know, lots of babies and grandkids around and all of that.
What number are you?
What do you think?
I think you're number seven.
I'm number nine.
I'm the baby.
Oh, you're the baby of nine.
Thankfully mom was pro-life, but back then everybody was pro-life.
Yeah, it wasn't.
So I came out and I looked at these, my competition were the nine, or my eight siblings.
Did they take good care of you though?
They did.
I bet they did.
We had eight girls, so I've got seven sisters and one brother.
And so it was like having, you know, many additional mothers.
Yeah, that would be cool.
It was really cool.
And a lot of great women to look up to.
From being this little, and I used to dress up in their clothes and walk around with their high heels.
The fun things that you would do when you have older sisters.
We have one brother.
I was the oldest girl, so I was like basically the family slave.
In Jewish families, the oldest girl is the servant.
Go do that.
Go get that.
Take care of the babies.
Put a chicken in the oven!
Oh God, it never ended.
And you're five years old.
How do I do that?
No, I knew.
She knew.
I was kind of a mom since I was five.
Kids were just more competent back then because we had to help out.
Yeah, well we knew, we felt like we were a needed and important part of the family, which I think most kids now they don't feel that they're a part of a group effort.
Because there's a lot of helicopter parenting going on.
I'll do that.
You might mess it up.
I'll do it.
That kind of stuff.
Or they're not home because they're working or, you know, other reasons, but I don't feel that kids feel they're part of anything.
And so that's why.
They're easily targeted and drafted in these crazy communities.
Well, they're on their phone all the time.
A lot of them are.
I even think I failed in some ways at getting my kids involved and helping clean around the house.
When I was a kid, I felt like the same way.
I'm a laborer in the house.
Did you only have me because you needed someone to clean the house?
Right, and of course they did.
Well back then, you know, you did have big families for that reason.
Right.
A farmer would have a bunch of kids.
Oh yeah, you were born on a farm.
Not born on a farm.
I was born in a barn.
No.
I mean, but you grew up on a farm.
I grew up in rural Iowa.
First ten years of my life we lived in the city, which a city in Iowa is not normally that That Metropolitan, it's actually pretty small.
And then when I was 10, my dad moved us out to the country, like the middle of nowhere.
Where?
You would never heard of it.
Donahue, Iowa, which is a town of like 240 people.
And we lived about 10 miles outside of that town.
So we lived like 10 miles outside of like the tiniest little town with the only thing it had in it was a little tiny grocery store.
How much did it cost?
vending machine which was like the highlight. Let's ride our bikes in. We'd
ride our bikes 10 miles to go and get a Pepsi. How much did it cost? I think it
was like I want to say 25 cents or 50 cents something like that. Wow. It was
coins and we would guzzle a Pepsi and then we would take one for the road and
ride our bikes back home.
Awesome.
But you spent a lot of time in Iowa, right?
Yeah, I had a farm there years ago, and I was going to build my dream house there, but it kind of all crashed down.
It didn't work out.
But I lived there for about three years, and I loved it.
I had a lot of acres and horses, so I would saddle up my horse Buddy.
And then I owned a cafe.
So I would ride Buddy two miles to town, put him on, you know, tie him up on the tree and then go into my little cafe and cook for people who came to eat there.
I loved it.
I made the best chili, the best desserts.
What town was this?
It was Eldon, Iowa.
And then at the end of the day, You know, of course I'd make other people clean it.
And then I'd go get on my horse.
You already did all that cleaning when you were five.
I'd get on my horse and ride back to my house.
It's like John Wayne.
It was so fun.
Where's Eldon?
What's it near?
Fairfield.
I thought it was a Tumwa.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, it was by Ottumwa, too.
Between Ottumwa and Fairfield.
I don't know directions.
I'm lost with directions.
I grew up about probably an hour, hour and a half from there.
But the people are great.
The people are so amazing.
The people are so nice.
Iowa nice.
People say, well, are Iowans ever mean?
I go, not necessarily mean.
I think the opposite of Iowa nice is Iowa passive-aggressive.
We do passive-aggressive well.
Like nobody can outdo it.
If you have to be, rather than be mean, I sense there's a little more passive-aggressive.
Well, it's a kind of a bless your heart kind of thing.
Yeah, you never really outright mean, but you can find a way to irritate someone to death if you have to.
I fit in really well there.
Hence me and the way I treat the media.
I love it.
It's my favorite show.
I fit in really well there because I thought we were very much alike with the women in Iowa that I met.
The people, they were so cool.
I really liked living there and I was sad to leave.
You know, onward and upward.
Then I went to Hawaii.
Well, that's not a bad place.
I mean, I love Iowa, but Hawaii is a pretty great place as well.
Beautiful.
Terrible things happening over there, though.
It's so sad because you see that we have Americans who are suffering so much.
That's what kills me.
I walk by people, and I don't want to sound strange right now, but my son goes, you're an empath.
I didn't know what that meant.
He'll say, you won't believe, I cut myself and here's what happened, or I hurt myself, and I go, ouch, don't tell me, I don't want to hear it, because I actually feel whatever he's describing.
But I also see that when I'm with people.
I think that's what made me a good journalist, because I could feel people when they were struggling, or had pain, or joy, whatever the emotion was.
But I find I'm in a lot of airports, and I'm looking in people's faces.
I try to look in their eyes.
And we're just suffering right now.
There's a lot of suffering.
Especially in Maui, Hawaii, they're suffering.
And, you know, I'm just always praying that A does reach people and good things are happening, and I do hear that, you know, from my intelligence sources, which are some good other people who live there.
Yeah, good things are happening, and I hope it's true, and that goods and services are reaching the survivors.
And I hope they can keep the property.
Oh no, they're gonna keep their property, I swear.
If some people have to come down there and kick some ass and run for governor of Hawaii, They're gonna keep their property.
You should run for governor.
I know everybody there is oh, they're all they're all hooked up to the money machine.
Yeah, which is that our taxes?
We need some good America first governors is what we need and that's why they had to stop us because they said holy crap this woman is going to do it she's gonna secure the border and Tackle the chronic street homelessness.
We've got to secure the border.
You can't... How do you tackle this chronic street homelessness, this drug abuse that's just plaguing our generation?
If it's coming in like... Endlessly.
Endlessly.
And if you... I'm sure you've seen the videos.
Oh yeah, it's terrible.
You haven't.
San Francisco, Phoenix... Oh yeah, we've been up there.
Have you noticed there's a lot of young men there on the street?
It's all men.
These are working-age young American men.
Yeah, it's mostly men.
It's 96% veterans.
A lot of veterans.
I just noticed how many of them are African-American.
That makes my blood boil.
Because the Democrats are always stoking about how racist we are.
You, in fact, did call me a racist because I accurately named, you know, the way it works.
Yeah.
That, you know, a man's rights... Well, I'll go into that another time.
Well, I agree.
I agree.
I'm really worried about our men.
I'm a mother to a boy, and I'm not the only one.
There's a lot of moms out there.
I always say our girls are doing pretty good, although now they're kind of going after girls by trying to Well, they're trying to destroy women's rights and women's safety.
It's a full frontal attack on every level.
from every angle. Our kids in schools, I mean it's an attack and it's also to him
it's a humiliation routine.
And then when you watch the news, they kind of get off on it.
They're like sneering that they got the American president.
Where the hell have you ever seen anything like that?
Oh, we locked up the president of the United States.
I mean, how shocking is that alone?
And then we're just supposed to swallow that like it doesn't mean anything?
It's complete mind control and it's not for the benefit of any American.
And it makes me mad when they Stoke all their racism crap and then you go see how many of those homeless people are African American and that's never being exposed.
And how the biggest yank of all that they do to line their own pockets comes from inner cities where they think they have an endless supply of voters they don't have to do one thing for.
Not one thing!
In fact, it's in the negative, like with the veterans.
They're taking away from the people who vote for them.
And I swear, Biden, his votes all come from people who are working for the government and just trying to get their retirement.
Once they figure out the Dems have stole their retirement funds, they're going to be mad.
That's a very good point, I haven't thought of.
The federal employees always vote for the Dems, but there's not much that's going to be left in the coffers.
No, it's all over in the Ukraine.
And we're spending money to the Ukraine to shore up their pensions, which is outrageous, and to secure their border.
Because that's where these guys are going to run When the hammer comes down the other way.
They're going to become Ukrainian citizens.
That's going to be interesting if that happens.
I know how the criminal mind works.
I watch forensic files.
Nazis and yeah yeah I know how the criminal mind works I watch forensic
files I'll figure it out.
Well, I know this, that the really serious problems that we have are all solvable.
Hello!
That's what I'm saying.
It's just we have to get the right people in office.
That's right.
That's hard to do.
But the great conundrum is, how do we do that?
That's why the elections, and honest elections, restoring faith in our elections, is the most important issue.
I know it's taboo.
I know you can go into a school and talk to elementary kids about Sex or anything like that, but you can't talk about election fraud.
We have to restore our elections.
We have to root out the fraud, or we can't vote our way out of the mess we're in.
Hence 2020.
Hence Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
Hence the nightmare that's playing out.
If this isn't enough to wake Americans up and say, A, they know that the election was stolen, rigged, and we've got to restore honest elections.
I think how we do that, here's what I think.
Everyone stops watching TV and instead they have neighborhood get-together meetings where you actually discuss actual things with your neighbors about what are we going to do if our country shuts down?
What will we do?
I think that's advisable right now.
Stop watching the fear-making machine that's dividing.
And actually get a plan with your neighbors.
Oh, I think grandmothers could coordinate those meetings, because every grandmother is responsible for about 100 people, I figured out.
That's great.
She could coordinate that in these grandmothers' councils, which we're going to have to do if we're going to stay alive and safe.
I think that's how bad it's going to get.
Safety meetings, or whatever you want to call them.
Neighborhood watch.
Neighborhood watch.
I love it.
And get together, have a plan, just in case.
We don't know.
I think there's going to be violence on the streets.
And you've got to have a garden.
Tell me if I'm not right.
You lived on a farm.
I don't have a garden, though, right now.
Oh my God, you lived on a farm.
You've got to start growing some vegetables.
Yeah, I could.
I live kind of in a townhome, which I love.
So you can get garbage cans, you know, get those plastic garbage things, and you can grow tomatoes and lettuce and carrots in there, right inside your kitchen.
You've got to have food because that's going to be the new money.
We do.
I will tell you, some of the great things, if you have to look for a silver lining that have come out of the last very tumultuous Devastating years are.
I think people are looking like, what if?
What if we can't get out?
After the shutdowns and all of that.
So, you know, we do keep more food on hand.
We do have a plan for purifying water if we have to.
So we have thought about some of those things.
These are things that would have never in a million years.
You know, you always used to hear about the preppers.
Yeah.
A lot more Americans are like, I guess we're kind of a little bit into prepping because we want to make sure we have everything ready.
Because things could get really bad.
Yeah.
If you would have said that seven years ago, I would have said, okay, Roseanne's losing her mind.
But now I go, yeah, yeah.
Things could get really bad.
The summer of love with every, all of the protests that could spill out even worse.
It could.
And you should prepare yourself.
The thing is, they've got us so we can't see what's right in front of our face.
That's what makes me so sad.
When we turn the news off, we take the power away from them.
Yes, we do.
And then we start getting our own plan with each other, living humans that communicate Not AI telling us what to do or what to think or feel or read or say or how to vote, but us talking to each other.
Hey, how's it over in your neck of the woods?
You don't have people trying to break in your house every 20 minutes, do you?
Yeah.
Oh gosh, I hope.
Something, some plan.
To where we at least know our neighbors, right?
Because now a lot of people don't even know who their neighbors are.
Creating safe places.
That's a great idea.
Safe spaces.
And of course for kids because that's who's mostly harmed in all these kind of crazy things.
I'm thinking of the people in Lahaina and they're at that level having to organize life from the bottom up all over again.
Complete destruction and then how do you even move through that and survive that?
Well, they know how and, you know, help is coming and is there.
So, you know, I just pray for that, too.
Pray for our country.
I do think that prayer goes a long way.
Gotta follow it up with some action.
You know, people say, what's gonna happen if Trump will get in there and everything's gonna be fine?
I think Trump will get in there and things will be much, much better quickly.
But, or they'll say, you know, I don't know, I think there's some, there's something going
on behind the scenes and it's all going to work out maybe, but I don't want to rest on
my laurels and go, well, somebody else is going to fix this.
No, we can't do that.
And that's why I'm every day.
I want to make sure we have all of our cases out there right in front of the judge for
when the pressure builds and more and more information comes out, that judge finally
I need to rule the right way on this.
That's exactly right.
It might be my case.
It might be somebody else's.
I don't know.
Maybe it's just we win in the court of public opinion.
Maybe the judges don't rule for us, but the public rules for us.
I think that is what's happening.
80% of Republicans say the elections are fraudulent, 61% of independents, and it's up to 40% of Democrats who say this is rigged.
So we're starting to see a shift and they can't continue to push this this long.
Something's got to give.
The dam will burst.
You know, people are seeing it very clearly and I think that you and I talking today has helped to make it even more clear.
I loved having this conversation with you.
Likewise.
And it was just wonderful to have you in my home and to know a little bit more about you.
You're a wonderful woman and I love that you're willing to serve the American people and I thank you for that.
Thank you, Roseanne.
I'm honored to be in your home.
The greatest gift is when you're invited into someone's home.
And so I love that you're doing this podcast in your home.
And I still am pinching myself that I'm sitting across the sofa.
From me?
From Jake.
From the 10-pounder?
No, yeah, from the 10-pounder.
He's normal right now.
You're normal size, right?
No, I'm not.
I'm 220-pounder now.
And sitting across from, really in idle, because you have withstood a lot.
You were being cancelled before cancellation had a name.
I know.
And to persevere through all that has been a real great thing to watch.
Well, God put you where you're supposed to go, I guess.
I feel like he took me out of Egypt and brought me to the promised land of creative freedom.
Pure creative freedom.
That's how I feel here.
Sometimes when you've been completely cancelled, it's like nothing else to lose.
I don't have to worry about trying to please everybody.
I've been cancelled by them.
It's the greatest thing ever.
You kind of walk through your fear.
On the other side, you are unafraid.
Which is why we named it that.
No, you don't have to pick it up.
I just said that.
No, but that was a good cue.
Yeah, hold it close to the mic so I can see it.
I gotta tell you.
Look at unafraid.
That's what I admire about you is, but it's like courageous and yet it's like, it's so
mom-based courage.
I just love that.
I think it's an inner strength that comes from just kind of a knowing that God's got your back, you know?
And mine is autographed, haha.
I love it.
And you are so gorgeous.
Were you always gorgeous?
No, not really.
Well, A, thank you for saying that.
I don't, you know, makeup helps a lot and some lighting and all of that, but, you know, I think just all those years, I had a lot of older sisters, so I would put their makeup on and things like that, and I worked in television for a long time, and so I know how to kind of pull it together, but I can look rough a little bit as well.
Trust me, in the mornings, you...
Don't wake up looking like that.
That, I think, looks like perhaps the first woman president of the United States.
Oh my gosh.
I'm team Carrie, yeah.
I would be there.
All right.
Slow down, Roseanne.
All right.
No, but I had to say it because I say it all the time to my family.
Can I ask one quick question?
What is your plans?
You're going to keep with the lawsuit?
I saw you floating a Senate run at one time.
I haven't made any, you know, it's not really a secret, I am really seriously considering a run for U.S.
Senate.
Oh boy!
We won the election for governor.
The people voted for a change in Arizona, for strong leadership that was going to actually solve the problems.
And because that was stolen, that doesn't mean we just go, OK, now we have to roll things up and leave.
No.
I want to serve the people of Arizona.
They want me to serve them.
And we need some leadership in D.C.
because the people we have back there are just absolute buffoons.
So I'm considering it.
I'll probably make a decision in a couple months, a month or so.
Do you think you can serve better as a senator?
I mean, I ran for governor because I felt that we could make some really big, good change in Arizona for the better.
But hey, look, they rigged the election and stole it from us.
And they were hoping that we and our movement would go away.
And I've got a lot of mama bears out there saying, we run.
Stay in it.
Don't let them win by stealing our movement.
Definitely not.
And so I think we have to stay in it.
We have too powerful of a movement.
We have a chance to pick up a Senate seat right now.
That's great.
So that's a big deal.
Well, you can run for governor.
It's a big deal because if I decide to do it, They are amazing policies.
Nobody ever talks about them.
Trump implement his amazing policies, which are incredibly transformative, I believe.
They are amazing policies.
Nobody ever talks about them.
I try to talk about them all the time.
Agenda 47, he's talking about them, laying it out.
You go to these other guys that are running against him, their page, their webpage, all
you see is a donate button.
Maybe one line on whatever policy.
He's got detailed policy.
And we need to get somebody... I get so frustrated when we watch these people in D.C.
They're so-called Republicans, and they were working against Trump.
I know.
Well, they cheated, too.
Well, it's not even... I think it's the Uniparty.
It's globalism versus Americanism.
It is globalism versus Americanism.
Or Marxism versus Americanism.
And I'm on the American side.
Pro-America.
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