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#014 Candace Owens | The Roseanne Barr Podcast

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	Hello everybody, welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast.
	I'm very excited today.
	I have a lovely guest and she's a genius and she is a warrior par excellence.
	And she's gorgeous, and she is a birthing person.
	Welcome, please, Candace Owens!
	Thank you for having me.
	I hope I can live up to the hype of that intro.
	But I definitely, I appreciate the birthing person part.
	That's good.
	How do you like that?
	I like it.
	I like that we've erased women.
	I like that women are gone.
	Isn't that great?
	Yeah, I'm so glad that we've achieved that in the era of hyperfeminism.
	Oh you see, my patience is growing thin.
	Isn't it great?
	I've birthed five ungrateful little bastards as I always say.
	Are you five?
	Yeah, I have five and you're on your third.
	Third.
	This is the third one coming in November.
	Yeah, back to back.
	Did you do it back to back?
	I do.
	I think my Middle three kids are going to be, I mean, yours are going to be the same spacing as my middle three kids.
	Yeah.
	I think it's the only way to do it.
	You know, people that have one child and wait five years and have the second and then wait three years and have the third.
	I just think I'd like to just be in the permanently pregnant phase and then be permanently done with pregnancy.
	Yeah.
	And diapers.
	I know me and my husband.
	We changed diapers every day for five years, and then it was over.
	It was over.
	Yeah.
	And it feels like a blink.
	Yeah.
	You don't want to restart.
	No, you don't want to go through that.
	I think you should stop it.
	Well, I don't want to say that, but... No, say it.
	You should definitely say it because your kids are listening.
	Well... You should have stopped at three, were you going to say?
	I was, but then I thought, well, no, but then I got sterilized after my fourth kid because I didn't want any more.
	And then I went to heroic measures to get my fifth, which is 17 years younger than my other younger boy.
	But I went to heroic measures like getting that IVF and doing all that stuff.
	Did you go through that?
	I went through it.
	I got eight eggs implanted and six of them took and that's when I was famous back on my show in 19...
	When was he born, 85?
	He was born in 95.
	Close, you were close.
	He'll be fine.
	Do you think it's getting going a little too far now?
	It's interesting because science has obviously had all of these amazing breakthroughs but I was talking about this on my show where it's getting a bit sci-fi, you know, where you're starting to hear people that
	are turning to IVF not because of necessity, not because they can't give birth, but for
	vanity reasons and, you know, I just don't want to be pregnant.
	I don't know.
	You mean the rent a womb thing?
	Yeah, Naomi Campbell, she's having kids at 60, at 55.
	And I'm just going, okay, there might have been a biological reason for why women aren't
	supposed to have kids at 55.
	Your energy is different.
	Your body's going through different things.
	You're not able to give the kids the things you're supposed to.
	And then when we start trying to...
	You simply don't care because you need a nap.
	Well, yeah, having a child at 22 has got to be a different than having a child at 60,
	which people are not have the option to do.
	Well, it's an accessory, it feels like.
	And then they're coming out and saying why they didn't have the kids, and it's like, why just didn't want to have kids then?
	So now I'm going to have a child at 55, and I just think, wow, having a child at 55, are you depriving a child of a certain energy?
	And some women are being honest about it.
	They're like, yeah, I just don't have the energy for this.
	What about Khloe Kardashian?
	She was on it.
	I could give a shit for this kid.
	Was that weird?
	Strangely, I was super appreciative that she was so honest because she did say that nobody tells you how weird it is to show up at the hospital and take a baby from somebody else who's just been carrying it for nine months.
	And yeah, your genetics are inside of this baby, but this baby was just literally inside of some other woman who's now gonna have to deal with her body having milk fill, you know, and she's got no baby to give the milk to.
	The emotionality of that and she just shows up dressed up at a hospital and takes the baby and walks out.
	She said it felt very transactional and that not enough people are talking about how she had issues Yeah.
	you know, bonding with the child and I thought it was actually quite brave of her.
	And then she said, you know, Kim didn't feel that way.
	And I'm like, well, Kim also sold her own sex tape.
	So I mean, yeah, I think, you know, we shouldn't be setting a litmus test for whether people
	are having normal human emotions when it starts with Kim Kardashian.
	And I don't think, I think right now there's just this push for women to think that it's so normal.
	IVF's in the back of your mind, you know what I mean?
	Like you can just get a surrogate and nobody talks about kind of the dark side of the industry and what really goes on in the surrogacy industry.
	And I think everything that starts as well-intentioned, which I think the intention was meaningful.
	It's, I literally can't get pregnant.
	Somehow, Hollywood gets a hold of it, and it kind of turns into this weird factory.
	Yeah, it's like child trafficking.
	In a weird way.
	Yeah, it's like these rich gay guys are hiring, like, hillbillies that make $20 a year with no teeth.
	And they're desperate.
	So I think it's different if you find a surrogate, like, you hear these stories, and somebody turned to their sister.
	Like, I have kids very easily.
	My sister couldn't have a child.
	Could you hold our child?
	you hear these wonderful stories and it's his gift and they've never had even one child.
	But then when you find these people like you're talking about, these like wealthy gay men
	who just don't want to have sex with women.
	I don't want to have sex with women, but I want to have a child.
	And they find some poor destitute woman who needs what really isn't a lot of money that
	they're getting for putting their body through.
	Yeah, putting their body.
	And that's first the eggs, just for the eggs you're getting, like 20K.
	Barfing for three months.
	Uh-huh.
	Hamroids hanging down to your knees.
	You can pay a premium for them to give them the breast milk.
	It's just something about it, it's gotten quite... Slavery.
	It's a form of slavery, and I found myself agreeing with this far-left feminist who wrote a piece on it.
	I think she went after Priyanka Chopra, and she was saying, you know, this industry won't be I won't find this to be a measure of equality until you tell me that there are wealthy women that are having children for poor women.
	Poor people, yeah.
	You know?
	It's a commodity.
	Everything is now.
	Yeah.
	Are you afraid as a mother for your children what kind of world they're going to live in?
	I'm not afraid, no.
	I mean birthing person?
	Yeah, birthing person.
	Please, please have some respect for the gay men who are birthing people as well.
	But yeah, I'm definitely not afraid.
	It's weird because I know who I am and I know what I would never allow.
	And I think people that have fears are only fearful because they don't have what it takes to
	stand up to certain things.
	And people are really care, people think about them.
	They care about, I don't want to be the mom that raises this issue, you know, the emails
	that I get, but I just wanted to let you know, maybe you could cover it at my child's school
	and could you cover my name?
	I would never be that parent.
	Like I would, I want people to know that I put this out into the universe.
	I want people to know that I am the person, I am a problematic mother.
	You know, you are never going to have any control over my child that I do not have.
	And I think because somehow government plus the culture has fractured parents from that
	strength.
	Yeah, they want to separate us from, you know, religion.
	raising our own kids.
	Yeah, and they're apprehensive.
	And so they turn, they're looking for people like me or other people to say something for them.
	And I keep reminding them that this is your household.
	I never worried about masks and vaxxing and things of that nature,
	because it wasn't allowed in my house.
	It just wasn't allowed.
	We had people come in, we had a night nurse, and I remember she came in,
	my son was just a couple of months old, and she came in with a mask.
	And it was the first time we had used a night nurse in Tennessee.
	And I said, you don't have to wear that here.
	And she said, oh, I choose to wear that.
	And I said, oh, well, you can't work here.
	My son's not gonna wake up in the night to a stranger wearing a mask.
	Like, you made us look.
	It's just not going to happen.
	So if you're not comfortable with that, I'm not comfortable with you being here.
	You can control.
	You get to set your own boundaries in your household.
	You get to set your own boundaries in terms of where you send your children to school.
	And, um... Where are your kids?
	They're not school-aged.
	They're not school-aged yet.
	We're just starting to look now.
	And I'm not wanting to throw my child into daycare because I just like having him home.
	He's a nut.
	These years go by super fast.
	You know, he's really getting his personality and he's acting a lot like me, which is very
	funny.
	He's very sure of himself.
	That's cool.
	Yeah.
	And so I don't want those years to be given to daycare.
	But and I'm obviously blessed that I'm able to keep him at home.
	I know not every person has the means to do that.
	I don't think they should have him unless they can keep him at home with them.
	Yeah, and everyone's circumstance is different.
	Like, you know, my sisters, when they had to work from home and, you know, there was no option for them, you know.
	And so I'm aware of that, that I'm privileged in the sense that I can say that I want to keep my child at home, that I can do my podcast and be done by 11 a.m.
	and be home.
	But, yeah, I'm very much prepared and have started doing the research into what schools that I want to send my child to.
	What about homeschooling?
	I homeschooled my youngest.
	I'm thinking about it only because I do think that kids at the school slow kids down.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's incredible how quickly you can learn at home.
	They're like sponges.
	And they will be so much more advanced if they're not being hindered by, well, this is what they need to learn at this age.
	Plus they go by the dumbest kid, like, you know.
	Yeah, you're bringing them down instead of going up.
	So I don't want that.
	But there are some wonderful schools in Tennessee, Christian schools in Tennessee, that we're taking a look at and we're just now going to start touring and everyone's trying to get into them and there's long wait lists, so.
	Aren't you afraid of teachers?
	Because you know they're all Not all, but I mean, there's such a large number of them that are secret perverts, even in school churches.
	If I was putting my child in school in Los Angeles, I'd probably have more fear than doubt in Tennessee.
	A little different.
	The mindset's a little bit different in Tennessee, and especially where we're looking.
	You like Tennessee.
	You said you moved as soon as you got pregnant.
	Yeah, the small town mentality is where you want to be.
	Yeah, I agree.
	You know, how people handle things like that.
	Especially in an open carry state.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We still got the good ol' boys down in Tennessee and so it was, for us, very intentional to move down to the South and not to be obsessed with the politics of the North or the politics of the West in terms of California.
	So we're comfortable where we are.
	That's cool.
	Well, I like Texas too.
	Yeah.
	Open carry, I love it.
	I shot a six point buck deer and then made sausage out of him.
	It's the best sausage I've ever eaten in my life.
	That's why I killed him, because I tasted this sausage and I'm like, damn, I'm going
	to go get me one.
	I thought it's kind of right that you'd kill your own meat rather than making somebody
	else do it.
	It's important.
	Yeah.
	It's important to...
	Make your own fire.
	Right.
	All of it.
	And that's something that I've really dived into since getting married.
	My husband's always hunted.
	and I did my first hunt at the end of last year.
	Cool.
	Yeah, which was great, it was amazing.
	And I recommend that every person does it because it is important to know where your food comes from.
	It doesn't come from a grocery store.
	And it kind of tethers you more to reality, you know?
	Yeah, and you said you're doing a- Life and death, great respect, great reverence
	for the creatures. You said you're doing a garden too, right?
	I love gardening.
	I've gotten into gardening.
	That has been something that will stick forever.
	I just love it and it's shocking to think of how much more money we spend than we have to at the grocery store.
	Right, isn't it?
	Simply because we don't know how to throw seeds into dirt.
	Which our grandparents did, and it's just kind of a lost art.
	Definitely lost in the inner city communities, for sure.
	Yeah, which is so sad.
	Yeah, and it is sad because I grew up in an inner city community.
	I grew up in Stamford, Connecticut.
	It's really close to New York, and it's so weird that nobody gardens.
	Not a single person that I grew up with that had a vegetable garden in the back.
	And Connecticut's a beautiful place.
	Where I was was obviously closer to the metropolitan area.
	But it was weird that as I went on this endeavor to learn to garden, I was nervous.
	I didn't know what to do with the seeds once I had them.
	And I remember turning to this woman who's kind of become like a de facto grandma.
	She's helped us in some of Tennessee.
	Helen.
	And I was like, what do I do now?
	And she's like, we just put them in the dirt.
	You just got to put them in the dirt.
	And I'm so like, okay, and then what's gonna, then something's gonna grow.
	It's that simple.
	Wow.
	Yeah, I know.
	And now we have so much food that it's yielding so much crop that our concern is what do we do with all of this?
	It's way too much food for one family.
	Right.
	And yet you have people that are talking about grocery store prices and not having, you know, not knowing what to do.
	And you gotta learn how to take care of yourself.
	I did that in Hawaii just to see what it would be.
	To grow my own food and I have nut trees there and that's the perfect protein, macadamia nuts.
	So it's getting off the grid and being self-sufficient, not being owned by the government.
	That's the goal.
	That's the goal.
	Purchasing land, knowing how to do everything yourself because we're not in a good circumstance right now in America.
	Because we don't know how to do that.
	We don't know how to do any of that.
	We're all welfare dependents is something that I've recognized.
	We're all on welfare.
	If you think that your food comes from a grocery store, you're on welfare.
	If you were terrified of what would happen during COVID and because of grocery stores, you're a dependent and you think you're independent because you've got some ritzy latte sipping job sitting behind a computer, you're nothing.
	You're a peasant.
	And so what I appreciate about the South is that there aren't peasants.
	Everybody works with their hands.
	People know how to grow their own food.
	You know, how to look outside and I even have this, like, app where I... What plant is this?
	Can this plant harm me?
	Do you know what agricultural zone you live in?
	That's real knowledge.
	You know, reading BuzzFeed articles and... Yeah.
	That's living a life of value.
	Yeah.
	But I wanted to talk to you about slavery because, you know, you're a black woman.
	Yeah.
	And I know all about slavery.
	I know you do and so do I.
	And especially in America.
	Yeah.
	And I was thinking that, you know, Lincoln freed the slaves and we had the Civil War and all that and starting there.
	And then, you know, it was supposed to be 40 acres and a mule for every former slave.
	Well, that went nowhere.
	But then, shortly thereafter, They bring in that 1871 signing away, you know, bring in that other thing where we're all slaves to England and, you know, the Corporation of the United States of America, where we have to start paying taxes back to England and the Vatican banks in Switzerland, which in effect nullified 1776 and made us all subjects again
	of a corporation that serves Great Britain.
	They took away our whole country and made every working class person pretty much a slave.
	Our birth certificate is owned and that's their collateral.
	Well, I talked about this in my book and it's just a fact is that slavery never went away
	in this country, it just mutated.
	There are forms of slavery that people were no longer tolerant and then the government smartens up
	and says, okay, how can we convince people that they're free and still have them be enslaved,
	which is really the conversation that we're having about the grocery store, the whole concept of,
	whoa, it's freedom, it's progress and actually it's the most regressive thing ever.
	You don't know how to take care of yourself.
	You are literally relying on the government.
	I mean, you saw this in COVID, people are begging.
	Absolutely.
	you know, the government, can I go outside, can I do these things? You're a slave. You're
	absolutely a slave.
	Absolutely.
	And so there are tons of different ways that they've mutated slavery and especially amongst
	black Americans. It's fascinating.
	Especially.
	It's almost exactly what they did on the plantation.
	Yeah.
	It's just you can't physically, you know, you're not seeing it with your own eyes.
	And you're not allowed to name it.
	Yeah. Well, I name it the whole time.
	It's modern slavery.
	I mean, your families are broken down, just like during the times of slavery, you were not allowed... The men were sent away.
	Yep.
	And they're now they just are incarcerated. Yeah, instead of working on it's not even the incarceration
	It's it's just the father absence incentives from the from the welfare system, you know
	Quite literally we will give a baby mama more money for not marrying a man
	And so the women don't marry men and you had actual government agents
	Coming down to inspect the homes of black women to make sure that the black men weren't there
	That was that whole Moynihan thing. Yeah, that's exactly right
	And so, you know to see the single motherhood rate in black America go from 23%
	Which is what it was before They started all of this the welfare industry and the Great
	Society Act Which is what what spearheaded all of this to now over 78%
	You know, it's the exact same thing that happened on in terms of slavery
	That was a policy.
	Also, black Americans can't read.
	You know, you tell people that you're facing a crisis in which literally the majority of black kids cannot read.
	They can't pass literacy exams and they ignore that.
	Do you understand this?
	It was a slave code that black Americans couldn't learn how to read.
	And now they've done it systematically.
	While teach telling you that it's more important that your kid feel emotional about Black Lives Matter
	than be able to read a book, right?
	And this is what they're producing.
	They're emotional.
	They have no logic.
	They have no ration and they can't read.
	You know, when you look at inner cities like Baltimore and you look across five schools and they can't find a single child that's proficient in reading and writing.
	That's not an accident.
	That's not an accident.
	It's on purpose.
	And it's a pipeline from those public schools to prison.
	And you know what they do in prison?
	They work for corporations for 16 cents an hour.
	That is part of slavery.
	Right.
	To remove the males and make them work on another plantation.
	Well, inevitably, the direct correlation is when you remove fathers from the home and you have a father absence, those kids inevitably turn to the streets.
	And then they go to prison.
	Yeah, because they're looking for a paternity.
	It's not like that thing inside of you that wants a dad to tell you, don't do this, don't do that.
	You're still going to pursue it.
	And so unfortunately for these kids, they pursue it in music, they pursue it in hip-hop, they start listening
	to rappers, the rappers are talking about gang-banging and they go and they emulate
	that behavior because they don't have a dad that's saying, turn that off, you don't listen
	to this stuff.
	Music that would have never been allowed in my household, growing up with my grandfather,
	there's no way I could have blared rap music, is now what they're hearing in their airwaves.
	They can't read, they can't write.
	Don't you think there's a war on...
	Well, I think it's all just a...I see it all as a class war, which slavery is.
	Yeah, it's the idea is to keep people warm with each other so people don't see what's so obvious and what's in front of them, that they don't see that this is just a modern updated plantation with all of the exact same rules.
	And so it keeps their focus, they look around and They finish school or graduate high school and they want to know why they don't have anything, why they can't read, why they can't make any money, why they are just slaves in the system.
	And then they go, oh, and then the government says, oh, it's because of white people, you know, or it's because of rich people or, you know, it's because of tall people, whatever it is, whatever ism they're working on, it's because of men, you know, it's because of the patriarchy.
	And because these people are not rational and they don't have high intellect, they buy into it.
	And these are the people that you see riding on the streets who are thinking, well, I'm gonna take what's mine
	and grab a flat screen TV from Target because a random black person got shot.
	And- And they're being rewarded,
	which I feel is they're just being set up.
	Oh, they're just being pat on the head.
	But they will be, they will be eventually arrested.
	Yeah, of course.
	Or shot in the streets like dogs.
	Right.
	Because that's what they're moving us all towards that.
	Right.
	Towards chaos in the street.
	Where, you know, in the majority, I think that the target is black youth.
	I do.
	And, and, and, you know, working class youth.
	And it just makes me sick.
	And also they, they totally disguised with their CRT.
	They just disguised the working class poor that are white.
	Yeah.
	And that's the devastation that's happening right now.
	I mean, it is the whole working class and the bottom of the middle class.
	And they did it on purpose because they go where the money is and they just take the money.
	And that's what causes the collapse of everything.
	When they take the money out of a community or out of a whole class, of course it's going to collapse and people are going to turn on each other.
	And they do it on purpose and they pocket the shit.
	They're pocketing every dime of that Ukraine shit.
	Of course, of course.
	No accountability, which makes entirely no sense.
	We should be able to log on to an account and see how the government spends our money.
	Hello?
	It's our money!
	There's no reason that we shouldn't be able to do that.
	I can log in to my bank accounts and I can see every dollar I spend.
	The government can log into my bank accounts and see every dollar that I spend.
	And take it if they want it.
	And the IRS can, you know, And they're giving guns to the new IRS if you're paying over $600 on Venmo.
	say this is the forensic accounting we've done to show that and then suddenly billions
	of dollars, it disappears when it's our tax dollars.
	And they're giving guns to the new IRS if you're paying over $600 on Venmo.
	They're sending $300 trillion to their own self.
	And nobody's supposed to ask, or you'll go to prison if you ask where it went.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I ask all the time.
	It's obvious.
	You're going to tell me we can't stop being in wars.
	We can't stop.
	We're in Iraq.
	We're in Afghanistan.
	We jump right into Ukraine.
	And you're constantly trying to tell us that we need to give a shit.
	I don't give a shit.
	I don't know how many times I can say this.
	I don't give a shit about what's going on in Ukraine.
	Okay?
	That is not my immediate concern.
	But it should be, and I'll tell you why.
	I don't care about the headlines.
	Because that's where all your text when it's going on.
	I care about what's going on in D.C.
	Your schools, your roads, your hospitals, infrastructure.
	And that pisses me off.
	And they keep trying to, and this kind of gets into the rich men north of Richmond and the success of that song is, stop trying to tell us that we need to give a shit about what's happening in Ukraine when the majority, I'm sorry, the overwhelming majority, if I had to put it at a number I'd probably say 95% of American citizens can't even point to Ukraine on a map.
	Stop trying to make Ukraine happen, okay?
	Well, we have to defend their borders over there in Ukraine.
	And then you see Zelensky making appearances at Grammys and you see Zelensky on a press tour and his wife shopping in Paris.
	I mean, this is like Let Them Eat Cake, you know?
	It is Let Them Eat Cake.
	It is Let Them Eat Cake and it's so despicable and so disgusting and so spineless.
	Left and right, any person that gets up on a platform and tells you that it's our job to care about them, F them.
	Seriously, any person that can look you in the face as you're trying to feed your kids.
	And tell you that you're heartless because you don't care about what's happening to whoever in Ukraine.
	F them.
	F them.
	Seriously.
	I spit on that.
	I spit on that.
	How dare you?
	People can't literally afford to feed their kids because you stopped them from working, by the way.
	That's right.
	And you took all the investment that Trump's whole plan for make America great, make America first, that he put into those inner cities, into black infrastructure, which He was saying was part of, you know, making amends to the black community.
	He was putting money in those cities.
	They took every dime of that, too.
	And now they're after the social security, which I think is part of the whole pandemic to get rid of the old people.
	I mean, there's no money left in social security.
	Social security is bankrupt.
	Everything went to Ukraine and is being recycled.
	We got to protect their borders.
	But do you think that men should go in women's bathrooms?
	It's a laundromat. They want to protect Ukraine because Ukraine is an American laundromat
	It's where they go to wash their money and send it back to themselves and people that are not awake to that
	While they're trying to tell you sad commercials of why you need to care
	Biden's been playing in Ukraine long before this but do you think that men should go in women's bathrooms? Let's talk
	about something It is very important that men be allowed to go wherever
	women are and in all of their spaces because men and women are
	biologically the exact same And men should speak for women, especially if they used to be men.
	They know how to speak for someone like me.
	They're better at being women.
	Who's lived 70 years with a prolapsed uterus.
	They're better at it.
	I'm having five ungrateful little bastards.
	So they should speak for me.
	I think that's the lesson, is that men are better at being women, you know.
	Jeremy Boyd, who's the co-CEO of Daily Wire, said that.
	He said, in the future, all the best women will be men.
	They already are.
	They're getting a job.
	And that's what's happening.
	They're getting the jobs.
	And the medals and everything else.
	Yeah, everything.
	Yeah, they're better at it.
	They're better at being women.
	And it's interesting that people don't see the underlying misogyny in that and say yes.
	How about these bitches that are out there screaming for men's rights?
	Who?
	The fucking left that's like, yeah, men do deserve to come over here and rape us whenever they want.
	What are you talking about?
	Who said this?
	The liberal women!
	What?
	I think she's being sarcastic, right, Mom?
	No, I'm saying that's what they're saying when I watch these women that are mouthpieces for trans rights movements.
	Oh, trans, okay.
	I thought you were talking about literally, um, yeah, no, 100%, the feminists, the hyperfeminists, yeah, that are coming out and saying that we should be, we should, this is again, forego yourself, right?
	Why do you care about yourself and you being a woman and your female experiences when we should be caring about someone else more?
	And this person says that when he puts on panties, He feels like more of a woman than you and you need to respect that and shut up.
	Oh, okay.
	I'll just do that then.
	You know, the first thing they did to me and to all my friends who were anti-rape activists, they took us down on Twitter first.
	And they took down all the real, I'm not even going to say the F word, feminists, fuck that, pro-woman, Professors on every university campus in this country who were advocating for rape rights and against child sex rape.
	They took all of those down and never a word was said about it.
	But they came after me for the same thing because I was saying men in children's spaces, penises in little girls' spaces, is an act of rape.
	Actually, it just came out.
	It was Wisconsin, I want to say.
	It might have been Wisconsin prisons.
	I think it was Wisconsin for sure, that over 50% of the inmates that are trans are sexual sex offenders.
	And that's incredible.
	They're in Valhalla.
	That's incredible.
	How could that be?
	Locked up women, they're in there with locked, and they're impregnating them too, by force.
	And now these stories are kind of making their way and people are starting to ask questions, but it doesn't matter because there's an entire ecosystem built to protect this bizarre narrative as if we're not examining sexual fetish.
	People tell you who they are early on.
	I mean, that's the circumstance of Sam Brinton, the nuclear energy waste person who showed up to work in heels.
	There was a whole, all of this evidence that this was a sexual deviant, right?
	He was in pup play, wearing makeup, heels to the White House.
	They made it seem like he was fabulous, long nails.
	sparkly uniforms. We saw him in thongs on tables.
	Wasn't a disqualifier for the Biden administration. They said, oh no, that's just love is love, I guess.
	Throw it under the love is love bracket.
	And then what happened? He started stealing women's luggage at airports and got arrested three times.
	And then they just quietly dismissed him.
	And I couldn't let this story go because it's like, he was, by the way, it's not Sam Brinton's fault.
	He told you I am a sexual deviant.
	How much more, I'd like to dress up like a puppy and pup play features, by the way, men walking around with dildos, you know, he told you, yeah, nobody knows that when they're on all fours.
	I did this, there was a whole piece on it, what actually pup play is.
	He had all of this and it was not, like, back in the day, that would have been a disqualifier for getting a job, right?
	If you went online, It's old school, like, okay, let me go in for this job at the Daily Wire.
	Oh, look, it actually turns out Candace is into very kinky pup play and likes to dress up.
	You would think that they would say, maybe this person should not be working here.
	Nope.
	This made them want Sam Brinton more.
	Yeah, but boy, if he's like Trump.
	And then he stole some black woman's luggage.
	Nobody cared.
	Was wearing her stuff.
	Nobody cared.
	She's like, this is stuff that I've made by hand.
	Nobody else owns it.
	Nobody cared and just quietly went, oh, I don't know what happened there.
	They called her a racist?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, probably.
	I mean, this is like, it's, you know, they're deranged.
	They're looking for freaks.
	And then when they do freaky stuff and they're like, oh, I don't know how that could have possibly happened.
	I don't even blame Sanborn.
	He told us.
	He told us who he was.
	He wasn't hiding it.
	I like that those are the people that go around saying that we're offensive.
	I know.
	I know.
	That's what I can't get.
	I know.
	Yeah.
	You like Trump!
	How offensive?
	How offensive?
	How could you possibly like him?
	America first!
	Right.
	It's their minds are so warped that if you spend time thinking about how it's possible
	that they can wake up and look at themselves in the face and feel like serious people.
	I mean you just have to imagine that they're so far into it they just don't have the humility
	to admit they were wrong because now it's just abundant.
	You know what I mean?
	It's so abundant.
	The mental illness is so abundant.
	Everything conservatives warned about that they said oh that's never going to happen.
	It's abundant.
	We're fighting it right now.
	We're dealing with people that are trying to say, well, don't call it pedophilia,
	call it minor attractive people.
	It's here, it's in front of you, right?
	So this is no longer about left or right, it's about what is-
	Oklahoma just hired a convicted guy that was caught with child porn as principal of the school.
	Did you read that?
	Covered it on my show.
	Yeah, and he wasn't convicted. He basically got out on a technicality. He got arrested for child
	pornography. A technicality of why he didn't get convicted and they expunged it from his record
	was because the judge, they couldn't prove that it was a child.
	So let's say whatever the image was, the image that they found in his computer in his house.
	They said there were thousands of them.
	But until you can identify and say that's Jeremy Snow, born on December 1st, his defense can say, you don't know if it's a child.
	It must just be a young-looking man or a young-looking woman.
	So the judge, on a technicality, and another judge disagreed with him, I covered this on my show, and said, no, that's clearly a child.
	But they said, well, you have to actually prove that that's a child.
	So he got off my technicality, expunged it from his record, but then he was a drag queen, just loves to be in front of children, dressed up and reading story time, which just is another thing.
	If you want to wear panties... They have butt plugs too, don't they?
	Why do you so badly want to be in front of kids?
	Okay, let's say you want to dress up as a woman and this is how you want to... Okay, I don't really care.
	Go to a rest home.
	They love that.
	Yeah, if freaks want to do freaky things in their own freaky capacity, in their own freaky homes, this doesn't really upset me.
	But what is this need to fight for a right to be able to read a book in front of a child?
	How does that not register you as a parent as something that's odd, right?
	And in order to show the world that you're woke and loving, you say, oh look, I'm taking my child.
	Well, did you notice they're all single moms and they're all obese?
	I know everything about how obese women think because I spent my whole life like that.
	Is this a thing?
	I'm telling you!
	Yeah!
	Tell me!
	How do obese women think?
	Well, they're really angry and unloved inside, but they want approval of males they find attractive, yet unavailable, which is gay.
	They want their approval, so they'll do anything to get it.
	Interesting.
	That's what I know.
	But not a threatening male that would say, no, I don't want to have sex with you because you're obese, but a gay guy that'll play flirt with them.
	They'll do anything for that.
	Wait, that's super interesting because I'm being so serious because I'm very fascinated about, you know, the fat acceptance movement, the whole... You mean big fat Lizzo that stole my act?
	Lizzo is a person that I've covered extensively on my show, not because she's fat, but because she's one of the purveyors of the fat acceptance, which is like just...
	She stole my act!
	clinically obese, pursue being clinically obese, totally weird.
	You know, she's like shaking in a thong.
	I don't have an issue with people that get, you know, are overweight and are trying to
	lose the weight.
	She stole my act.
	First of all, I was the first obese woman.
	I was the first obese woman.
	We're going to need a fact check on that.
	No.
	No, I was.
	We don't fact check on you.
	But listen, I broke all the... I wasn't the first, but I broke all the stereotypes.
	I was the one that got called a fat cow in Time magazine.
	They called me all the names that they don't dare call Lizzo.
	I had to take it.
	I'm the one that went to all those dressmakers and says, you've got to make a size 16.
	You're an anti-semite if you don't.
	Did you say that and get the dressmaker?
	I did to Donna Karen.
	Because she herself wore a 16 and wouldn't make it.
	I go, what is this, some kind of anti-Semitic thing that you're doing here?
	We all wear a 16.
	All the Jewish women.
	But I did say that.
	But I said, you've got to make a size 16 here to all the dressmakers.
	And so they all went up, you know, in sizes of XL, X1, X.
	That's because I fought that.
	I fought that.
	And I was called all those names.
	I was on the cover of Vanity Fair in a bustier when I was fat, and I met Botero.
	That's true.
	And all that stuff.
	I broke them down, not big fat-ass Lizzo.
	Well, I don't think she's broken them down necessarily, and I don't even think... She don't even thank me!
	See, I was the woman that put my ass out there and none of these bitches today, excuse me, they don't thank the women that broke the doors down, which I mean me.
	Well, I think now it's become something else where there, you know, because it's, as you said, there are a lot of health implications with being large and it went from, you know, can we make a larger size for people to fit into, to now glorifying obesity.
	Which is something that's very dangerous, obviously.
	I don't like it either because, I mean... It's the number one killer in America.
	I know, but they want us, you know, everything is a mind trick to get us to kill ourselves and each other, isn't it?
	It's mind control.
	Yeah, and so it's very bizarre that there's been this switch where it's now, it's not about like, hey, I am this size and I'd like to be able to wear a dress too.
	It's now gone into we need to encourage people to be clinically obese and to problematize health.
	And now you have things, you have headlines, I mean not headlines, magazine covers
	that say obese is healthy, literally.
	Obese is healthy.
	Of course obese is not healthy, we know that.
	Of course I would assume that when you were a size 16 you weren't saying obesity is healthy, so make me a dress.
	It's like, okay, I'd like to be able to wear a dress.
	Yeah, I don't want to wear a suit that like a pony wears.
	You go to the store and it'd be like one striped sleeve and the other one has stars.
	We just wanted to have a nice dress.
	Yeah, an option to wear, which is a much more noble pursuit.
	But what Lizzo has done, I think, has tripped into something else, which is very dangerous, you know, and pretending that obesity is health.
	You know, trying to market the idea that women should aspire to obesity is entirely different.
	It's another gay guy thing.
	You know what I saw?
	These gay guy weightlifters.
	I saw this in Malibu.
	They were weightlifters in their bikini swimsuits, and they had these women there, and these were some famous guys.
	400 pound each women and they were feeding them in their yard.
	The women was in swimsuits too.
	400 pounds each, I'm not lying.
	And these muscle guys came out there and were feeding them whole chickens and stuff for a party.
	They're called feeders.
	It's becoming a circus act and they have these characters on YouTube.
	People pay them $10,000 a month to watch them eat.
	I mean, this guy started as like a vegan.
	He was super small.
	Nico Avocado, I think is his name.
	And then now he has to use a breathing tube and he just keeps eating.
	And he just puts things on his plate and just keeps eating.
	It's very circus act and very sadistic.
	And it's incredible that that's allowed on YouTube.
	You're watching someone slowly kill themselves.
	He is going to die if he does not reverse course.
	And that's totally permissible.
	And so anything that leads to death, totally permissible on YouTube.
	Anything that leads to health and changing and trying to get people to recognize illness, whether it's mental illness or physical illness and talking about things meaningfully, not allowed on YouTube.
	Very weird.
	They're weaponizing mental illness and unhappiness, which they cause.
	You know, they have us in the pens they want us in.
	I always say, we're nothing but veal in high heels.
	Yeah, we're in little pens and they get us, oh, you're this color, which means to us, they don't even care what you define yourself as.
	You're this color, so this is how you'll vote or you'll be punished.
	And you're this religion, so that's how you'll think or you'll be punished.
	Right.
	You know, they don't, they hate thought.
	Right.
	Right.
	And that's actually something that I think I'm probably the most interested in now in
	everything that I'm working on is trying to show people how we are all very manipulated
	at all at various times.
	Me, I fell for the propaganda when I was young.
	The public school insistence that Republicans and Conservatives were all racist and backwards and people in the South were racist.
	I believed it all.
	Me too.
	And so I'm not above the propaganda, but because I've had that moment of consciousness and now I see things straight, I've dedicated the rest of my life to making people realize, you know, at great personal cost, yeah, but It is worth it to tell stories over and over again, and obscure stories.
	This is the docuseries that I told you I'm working on now, Convicting a Murderer, which is, this one's an incredible one because it's apolitical.
	It's one that the left and the right fell for.
	It was a Netflix fandom behind it.
	Making a Murderer was the original series and they took this guy, Steven Avery, and
	he was actually in fact wrongly convicted, spent 12 years in prison for something that
	he didn't do, which was the rape and attempted murder of another woman who just wrongly pointed
	him out in the lineup.
	There was no conspiracy.
	The cops didn't tell her to do it.
	This was pre-DNA.
	She said it was definitely him.
	They locked him up wrongly.
	He gets out of prison and he's not out for long before he gets, he's under arrest again
	for the suspicion of the murder of another woman.
	And so these documentary makers went down there, anti-police sentiment was building, and they kind of produced this series, Making a Murderer, and people walked away from it believing that Stephen Avery... This was like White Lives Matter.
	Before there was ever Black Lives Matter, there was a whole cult, and I saw the Netflix doc, and this guy's innocent.
	Yeah.
	And to really understand how many people were manipulated to believe this most contemptible individual because they just didn't give you enough facts.
	You know, they just kind of told you, well, he was wrongly convicted once, so it could happen twice.
	Doing that docu-series has, you know, it's been incredible.
	It's been incredible.
	And I think, you know, it's just been released.
	So you think he got away with it?
	Oh, no, he got convicted of the second murder.
	Oh, he did?
	He's in prison.
	Yeah, but he's in prison with a whole fandom behind him.
	So he's got he's got multiple fiancées, wives, like women that have have become so possessed by this Netflix narrative.
	People that are, you know, still songs about him.
	I mean, to see what this turned into and how harassed the family of the victim was the woman who was actually killed.
	So, but what I meant is that Because he got off on the first one, they're still thinking that he is innocent of the second one, even though he... Yeah, culture thinks he's innocent.
	I'm one of the people that thinks he's innocent.
	Yeah, if you watch the Netflix series... No, I did.
	I wanted to talk to you about it.
	Not of the second one, though, right?
	Oh, absolutely.
	You think he's innocent of the second one?
	Well, I was telling everyone I'd like to talk to you about it, if I could.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, I'm a big Steve Avery fan, if you can be.
	Yes, I love that.
	But I'll tell you why.
	For me, it is political, because...
	My mother and I do this show all the time, and we talk all the time about how the biggest problems are class.
	That it's not race.
	Of course they're interlinked, but class is something nobody ever talks about in America.
	And I always cited the Stephen Avery case, because him and Brandon Dassey were poor and white, and it did seem on that original documentary that they kind of got railroaded.
	And I always would say, you know, O.J.
	got off, this is an affluent black man, and Stephen Avery and Brandon Dassey are still in prison.
	and it looked as if the police framed him. I mean that interview with Dassey is hard to watch.
	I love that you're saying that because that's the end.
	Yeah, no, and that really shows you the power of a Netflix series. And even people that say,
	okay, I actually think Stephen Avery did it, think Brendan Dassey's innocent because they
	chose a perfect portion of a multiple interview with Brendan Dassey, multiple, where they just
	think, oh, he looks innocent, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
	And then what we've gotten at, what we have access to are the prison phone calls, the original, because even Brendan Dassey, he wasn't even on the police radar.
	He just came forward, you know, and people don't know this.
	People don't know this.
	And so they tried to make it seem like He got tricked in and looped in because they wanted, the Netflix narrative was, you know, they didn't want to pay this $36 million pending lawsuit.
	I mean, none of it's true.
	None of it's true.
	Well, I watched the first five episodes last night.
	Oh, did you?
	Yeah, and I'm, you are, it's brilliant.
	I mean, I'm rethinking everything, so I urge everybody to watch it.
	But I gotta say, I was a little upset at first, because like I said, you've kind of taken someone,
	not that was important to me, but a case that was important to me.
	It's hard to go through that exercise.
	I was mad at you, actually.
	Yeah, and I get that, and that's why I love to read you stories.
	Well, you're undoing brainwashing.
	Yeah, but it's a case we like.
	When you believe something for so long, and it becomes a part of you,
	And then when you find out that you are wrong, and the biggest part of this is having the humility to admit you're wrong, because I've, like I said, I've just gotten it wrong before.
	Well, we've all been brainwashed, so... But some people don't.
	They go further into the ignorance because they just can't bear to accept that they were wrong.
	And I could have done that with Black Lives Matter.
	I could have done that with the way I was, you know, raised believing Republicans.
	But I had to go through that exercise of like, sometimes we just get it wrong and it's not our fault.
	How could you not?
	I mean, the Netflix series was very convincing.
	Very convincing.
	Very convincing.
	And then when you see everything they left out, and you just go, okay, if they had told me all of this, I would have probably seen that maybe... But you wouldn't have watched it.
	I lived it firsthand to see how they came after me, and how they purposely painted me as a racist, and you know, despite just that very last season, I had gotten praise from Muslim People at university saying this is groundbreaking because I did that Muslim Neighbor show, which is part of why I came back to television to do that kind of material.
	I just got all these praises and awards for, you know, the shows I was doing that 10th season.
	And then ABC and Disney were the purveyors of everything that called me a racist because they wanted me off.
	And that was because of You know, it was purely political.
	They wouldn't even give me the chance to explain what I meant.
	But, you know, at the same time, and the same people are always involved.
	Did you notice that?
	It came from a call from Michelle Obama.
	and Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice from Netflix.
	Netflix is a big old brainwasher.
	Look how they normalized pedophilia on there.
	Well, two things that I want to say first is that, yeah, if you watch Convicting a Murderer,
	you will see how much Netflix had invested in this narrative, which is bizarre.
	You know, it's kind of bizarre, but it was interesting to try to kind of weave away
	and say like maybe the justice system is wrong and they're worried about their profits
	and so who cares about the truth trying to make money.
	But I think it's super interesting, and I love that you have now seen it, that, like, so people, please go watch Convicting a Murderer.
	But I do want to say one thing, this is my show, the scandal involving you It fascinates me because Valerie Jarrett looks exactly like a character from Planet of the Apes.
	I did this on my show a couple of weeks ago.
	I showed a side-by-side.
	I saw.
	Of Valerie Jarrett.
	And I'm like, it's still to me the bizarrest cancellation.
	It's so funny looking.
	She literally looks exactly like a character from Planet of the Apes.
	And what's stunning is first off, no one would know, this is one of these people like, oh I'm mixed black so now I get to claim black and you can't say that.
	Which is foolish, because black people don't look like apes.
	I don't look like an ape, so I don't even care.
	She doesn't look black, and she does look like a character.
	Plus it wasn't an ape, it was a character from a sci-fi movie.
	Yeah, and that character, literally, if you look at the side-by-side, it is incredible.
	Even the hair is white.
	Everyone looks like animals.
	I know!
	I used to talk about Ron Perlman when I was defending her.
	He's a white guy that looks, he does look like a gorilla.
	And I was defending her on Instagram.
	It was really funny because I didn't know at the time Valerie Jarrett was black.
	Nobody knew she was black.
	So I was like, she does indeed.
	She played the Meghan Markle.
	We were like, oh, can I now say I'm black?
	Well, they wanted to get me out of there.
	And I think they wanted to get me out of there, which I don't know why they begged me to come back.
	They begged me.
	And then they had to get me out of there.
	And I guess it was because My boyfriend says, well you were showing a Hillary hater and a Trump hater still loving each other and living together.
	Yeah.
	And that ain't good for fundraising.
	Right, right.
	It's all just a yank.
	They want us at each other's throats.
	Right.
	They want, oh and I saw this, but I'll save that for later because I just want to hear you talk.
	I just want to compliment you that you are just such a, you are a maverick man and you Big woman ovaries.
	I mean you are so brave.
	And I feel when I hear you talk, I hear it go all the way back a few hundred centuries.
	You're bringing your All your grandmother's with you when you talk and I just love listening to you.
	What logic and how deeply you've thought about things for so long.
	I really admire you and I'm proud to know you.
	Thank you.
	That's so kind of you to say.
	I always say that if there's anything that I hope people get from me when they watch me or listen to me at all, it's just the permission to be truthful.
	That they don't feel scared to say the truth.
	Because I can't imagine living like that.
	I can't imagine waking up every day apprehensive to say what is abundantly true.
	Even if it's something as stupid as Valerie Jarrett looks like in the character.
	We should all just be able to agree on that.
	Water is a liquid.
	People are fearful because they're fearful of being canceled the people of not they're fearful of being beat down Yeah, that's what this government is doing.
	No, I always tell them you get over the they can't keep canceling you Alright, so then what comes at the other side of that is remarkable freedom.
	So they've thrown everything at me.
	Every ism, self-hating black person, self-hating woman, racist.
	I am both controlled by Israel and a raging anti-Semite.
	I mean, pick the day.
	And they've got something to say about me.
	My favorite is you being a white supremacist.
	Yeah, and what I hear when I hear them throwing these out, and it doesn't land anymore.
	She's transformed, ho-fo, it doesn't land, nobody cares anymore.
	Nobody cares.
	And so I'm free.
	It means nothing.
	I'm free.
	Yeah, you are free.
	And they are calling me an anti-Semite.
	And now I get to be free.
	They're calling me an anti-Semite.
	I just love that so much because I'm like out of all of them, Jonathan Greenblatt and the ADLs and all the lefty Jews, none of them have Shabbat.
	I'm the only one that does Shabbat and I'm an anti-Semite.
	And so I want to start a thing called Jewish Lives Matter just so I can like Protest the ADL.
	Well Elon Musk is going after the ADL.
	I love it!
	Let's talk about that.
	Freedom of speech.
	What the hell?
	I think Jonathan Greenblatt personally, personally is one of the greatest purveyors of anti-Semitism.
	He causes all of it.
	He causes people to dislike Jewish people because he pretends that he is the all-consuming voice of what impacts Jewish people and what they're upset about.
	It never is a reflection of what Jewish people are actually upset about and yet that's what gets put into the press.
	So he pretends That you must answer to me for something that is not actually a crime at all.
	And it actually makes Jewish people, as he's representing them, he's almost like BLM represented black people.
	Yeah, he is that.
	Where you're false calling hoaxes all the time, saying this is anti-Semitism, this is anti-Semitism, and BLM did this with racism, this is racism, this is racism.
	And actually what it was doing is it was causing more racism because it made people not want to engage with black people because they were coming across as whiny and privileged, hyper-privileged.
	And he's done that now successfully with Jewish people where people aren't taking the word anti-Semitism seriously anymore.
	Literally now when I hear a claim that someone is anti-Semitic, I just don't believe it.
	But he's never defended me when I have said things that need defending.
	He's never defended me.
	I call it the George Soros Anti-Defamation League.
	That's the only Jew, quote-unquote, that he ever defends.
	Have you noticed that?
	Yeah, I mean he's definitely not for Jewish people.
	I don't think anybody would be convinced that Jonathan Greenblatt, I mean the horrific list of ways to get your life back to Kyrie Irving, like how could you think that that was going to read well?
	Disgusting.
	He's disgusting.
	I was like, I mean, instantly, how dare you?
	You're literally trying to buck break a black man because you're upset that he sent a link.
	Why don't you go after Amazon?
	Yeah.
	Why don't you go after Jeff Bezos?
	I mean, I just, and I can tell you as a black person, I'm sick of that.
	Why don't you go after George Soros, his number one goal?
	I agree.
	to destroy Israel. Why don't you do that? Yeah, literally.
	I mean, it was that list for me just registered him as, it was almost racist. I mean, it
	was disgusting. If you want your life back as a black man, here's what you will do to kowtow to
	me. Disgusting.
	The ADL is sick.
	I hope Elon Musk is successful because he understands that it's just a poison.
	He just calls everybody anti-semitic and tells them, now you're going to do what I'm going to do.
	And that is what BLM did.
	That's what the whole left does.
	It's a shakedown effort.
	It is a shakedown.
	If you want us to bless you, NAACP before that, if you want me to bless you with your life back and remove this smear of racism or anti-semitism that we're doing, then here's what you're going to do.
	It's paying for protection of the mafia.
	Yeah, it is mafia, and I do not care.
	The ADL is disgusting, Jonathan Greenblatt is disgusting, and it's time for that entire industry of fake anti-Semitism to collapse.
	I co-sign as a Jew.
	As a Jew, fuck you.
	If I can stand up to BLM in my own race, you think I'm gonna allow frickin' the ADL and the fake... Some ball-headed motherfucker.
	All of it needs to stop.
	A ball-headed...
	Bob Marley chased these crazy ball heads out of town.
	Well, you know what?
	They're nothing but skinheads.
	Did you notice that?
	Like, if you're a Jew like myself, I know you're not, but you kind of are by osmosis.
	But, and, you know, by my definition of what it is, somebody who thinks and includes everybody, you know?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, if you get real biblical, Jew meant It's human.
	In the Bible, that's what it actually means.
	It's the story of a human culture.
	And everybody who reads it becomes part of that story.
	It's not just about one little group of people.
	It's a universal story.
	But I forget what I'm saying.
	But anyway.
	Jonathan Greenblatt is Phil.
	Oh yeah.
	Jonathan Greenblatt.
	He's Phil.
	He really is.
	He doesn't even do anything Jewish.
	He doesn't keep Shabbat.
	All he does is go after old Jewish women.
	I'm always their fucking target.
	How does he become the head of the... How does one become the head of the... The gay mafia?
	I don't know.
	Don't you think it's the gay mafia, Candace?
	I don't know.
	I have to say, on that one I am not positive.
	Who do you think it is, Candace?
	The skinheads!
	Nazis are skinheads.
	Why does the left shave their heads when that's what Nazis did?
	That was my point.
	Oh yeah, okay, I was going with that.
	But no, I don't know how he got insufficient power.
	I think they just kind of pick someone who's willing to do it.
	It was Patrice Cullors for BLM.
	It's Jonathan Greenblatt for the ADL.
	And it takes them insulting enough people with false names for everyone to come together and say, F you.
	I know why it is.
	F you.
	I know why it is, because they know a lot of donors.
	Well, yeah, of course.
	BLM, it was an industry.
	They were millions and millions of dollars being poured in the coffers to keep up this idea that everything was racist.
	And that's what he's doing, keeping up that everything is anti-Semitism because it's their wielding power this way.
	Did you ever look into who are the Democrat Party's donors?
	A long time ago.
	You should updo that.
	Yeah.
	Because I've been looking into it.
	It's very interesting.
	I've been, you know, it's funny, I've become so fatigued with the poison of politics and realizing the corruption.
	Well, I'm glad you're onto this whole new thing.
	Yeah, you know, I just... It'll come back to the poison of politics.
	It's always going to be there because politics is poison.
	And so I've been leaning more into just dispelling cultural narratives.
	And when I lean into politics, it's this kind of a thing, like ADL needs to go down 100%.
	Yeah, um, you know blm needed to go down 100 Kind of bigger larger cultural implications of what's
	tearing people apart and and that and that it really is why I was like very excited
	Jump into this docuseries and thinking about other series that I can bring
	Um that are a little bit outside. I mean there's always going to be a political undertone and that's why in that
	first episode of convicting Um convicting a murderer I say like this is almost like
	white lives matter Yeah, no, it really is.
	There's no logic going on, and you've got people outside, and they're committed to something based on emotion, and we're all humans.
	We're all emotional, and we all can be persuaded by emotion.
	That's so true.
	Yeah, but the question is, can you trump the emotions when you're presented with the facts?
	Right.
	And I love that you're doing it.
	Can you have self-control or not?
	Yeah.
	And be able to think?
	What do you think is the most incendiary, revolutionary thing we could get behind right now?
	Oh, what a big question.
	Me and you.
	Gosh.
	For the benefit of our country and our local government.
	Yeah.
	School boards, running for school boards.
	Yeah.
	I think that's kind of been probably my biggest focus now.
	I think people that follow me on Instagram.
	Oh, I can see you doing it.
	Yeah, I'm very, very engaged.
	And, you know, I think people that follow me in general, they're following my real life, you know, so it's like Candace jumping into politics, single, no children.
	I'm married, I have kids and it's completely changed my focus.
	I did want to ask you about that, how having kids changes everything.
	I was talking to you before about, do you think it makes you more compassionate and empathetic to have a child?
	It's so funny because everyone told me that was going to be the case and it made me more compassionate.
	I already had that thing for kids because I nannied.
	It hardened me in terms of how I saw the world and I became a mama bear and that I didn't expect.
	Really?
	Yeah, I did not expect the constant fire.
	That is burning.
	Like waiting for a war to come to my front door.
	Now suddenly you're not just talking about these issues.
	There are real world implications for me when we're talking about kids picking their genders in school.
	So I'm like bring it to my district.
	You know what I mean?
	Like bring that please because like this is the concept of a mama bear.
	A bear that will fight to the death for her cubs.
	And so I I don't think it has softened me in my career.
	It has focused me, laser hyper-focused on things that I really care about and things that I just don't really care about at all.
	And the future generation of children is something that is the number one thing.
	That gets me up in the morning.
	How do you protect the kids?
	How do we... even this even gets into the gardening, the hunting, the whole concept of... It's a whole like paradigm switch.
	Total switch.
	Like a lockdown.
	It goes like this.
	Yeah, it's...
	It centers you.
	Yeah.
	And what's amazing about that centering also is I've never been more confident, right?
	Cool.
	I've never been more confident.
	No, there's nothing to worry about.
	I know what's going on in my house, right?
	So you can't shake me with like a headline.
	I could care less what you think about.
	I could care.
	I actually say, If people knew how little of a shit I gave about what they wrote about me, would they still write it?
	Like, if you were about to write the article and they were like, literally Candace doesn't give a single shit about what you're going to write, would you put so much passion into your article?
	I'd like to know the answer to that, you know?
	They wouldn't.
	Because I just don't care.
	I mean, people, I'm like, I literally just don't care.
	I don't have myself on Google Alerts.
	I don't read it.
	It's just, you know, doesn't matter.
	I've got kids now, right?
	So, yeah, that I was not prepared for how centering and... Well, I'll just tell you, wait, you know, I agree and that's what happened to me too.
	And that's part of why I felt propelled to go show a mother on TV, a real mom, you know, who was like, you know, this is my family and I'll do it my way.
	And that's what I did for all those years.
	But boy, once you hook into the next level, Which is grandma.
	Watching those kids you raised.
	Grandma bear?
	When you're watching those kids you raised and how they do on the ones they have, the youngsters that they're raising, it's like double!
	Like, woo!
	It's like, now I must command!
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't want to wish the years away, but I will say that I look forward to being grandma because then you trip into the ages where like, you can just really say whatever you want.
	Oh yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	Nothing's funny.
	Literally, when you hear a grandma, grandpa, yeah exactly.
	But you get to the age where you're like, I've been here long enough.
	I'm not playing politics with anybody.
	Everybody loves a grandma, grandpa saying whatever the heck they want to say.
	And I feel like that is going to be my golden phase.
	It is golden.
	That's what you said.
	in the rest of my life where everybody's like, oh shut up, now they're like, ah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	How cute.
	Everyone thinks it's cute.
	And you can fart all the time, what you have to do anyway,
	but people, they kind of go, oh poor thing.
	That's what you said, I can't wait to get old so if I fart in public, people will just smile.
	And it's true.
	It's a cute one.
	Everybody thinks it's cute.
	Yeah.
	Well, they have to.
	It's kind of like when my toddler's angry.
	It's adorable.
	It is adorable.
	And I'm like, actually, you're getting away with so much and we're laughing and we shouldn't be laughing.
	What about potty training?
	Doesn't that just do your soul to the bare fucking minimum?
	I've got very lucky.
	My son potty trained in three days.
	Wow.
	Are you kidding?
	He's very militant though.
	He doesn't like a mess.
	He doesn't like sticky hands.
	He's got this little OCD thing going on from my husband.
	So he's not a normal toddler.
	He doesn't like, he's like, ew.
	I have to go potty.
	He was very into it, like very into learning.
	How old?
	Two.
	He's now two and a half.
	And so how long has he been potty trained?
	Since he was two.
	Oh, he just decided he wanted to be clean.
	Well, I just looked at, I just, I recognize, I'm like, you really like being clean.
	And so I feel like once I just kind of switched him into like little boy underwear, and I was like, as soon as he feels that he's wetting himself, he's not going to want to do that ever again.
	Is your husband a Jew?
	No, he's not.
	He's an Englishman.
	Oh, well.
	Not a, not Jewish.
	Christian Englishman.
	Because you said OCD, so I thought, oh, Jew.
	That's why English.
	Jews don't have the good OCD.
	The English have all the rules, their forks from their knives and spoons.
	His daughter, of course all Jews are OCD, but she's defiant OCD.
	The Jewish neuroticism.
	Is that what it is?
	All of my Jewish friends say it's totally a thing.
	It's the culture.
	It's the culture.
	It is, and it's a problem.
	That's really why people hate Jews.
	It's not just green blood.
	I actually love the Jewish neuroses.
	I don't.
	I grew up in a very Jewish town, so I've always had tons of Jewish friends and spent most of my childhood at JCC birthday parties and I kind of love it.
	Like, I don't know, I just, you know, there's a weird thing.
	I knew it was obnoxious.
	Blacks and Jewish people kind of... No, they used to be tight.
	Yeah.
	We need to get that back.
	I was always tight until fucking Valerie Jarrett.
	Yeah, yeah, there's a weird kind of cultural... They kicked us out of the women of color club.
	It happened to me.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	In the early 70s, they said, Jews are no longer women of color.
	After I'd been a woman of color all those years, and in all those clubs that I raised the money for the bitches, I said, you're not kicking me out of shit.
	And I never left.
	But, you know, because they started taking that Arab money.
	I'm telling you, I was an academic.
	My friends are academics.
	Back in the day when I wrote all that shit the left is saying.
	You know?
	I wrote for newspapers and shit when I was...
	A hippie feminist left-winger.
	It is my fault.
	I'm trying to make amends for it.
	Well, I'm trying to pay off my karma.
	But I did send a love message.
	I didn't try to divide people.
	my karma. You're trying I'll let you know when you get there. Well you did help make some amends.
	But I did send a love message. I didn't try to divide people I wasn't like that. I was just
	saying the people against the government and I'm still saying it.
	Yeah.
	Because they're not afraid of us.
	They're wiping their ass right on our face.
	Yeah, we are at that phase.
	They're like, hey, I'm taking a bet on how many in this community I can kill and get a payoff.
	And again, inspiring that hatred between the groups is what sucks, because we talked about this with Bill Maher, but it's just like we all used to be able to make fun of each other, talk about our cultural differences.
	Of course there are stereotypes about Jews that are 100% true.
	And hilarious.
	And hilarious.
	Stereotypes about black people that are true and hilarious.
	Chinese people that are true and hilarious.
	We used to be able to laugh away and then love is right after.
	Maybe that's why they're taking that away.
	That's why they hate Trump because he's funny.
	They hate humor because it diffuses anger.
	It brings people together.
	It diffuses anger, it brings people together, being able to laugh at yourself.
	You know, and that's why I say it's like even when saying you look like cartoons, I mean,
	the amount of times that my sisters or my cousins tell me that I look like something,
	and then I'll look at a picture and I'll be like, I do see it.
	I get called Elmer Fudd all the time.
	My sisters always say I look like an ant, and then they found this ant character.
	I'm looking at you.
	You wait until you see ants. Look up Princess Bala on ants.
	I'm gonna do it right now.
	And I see it, you know?
	And it's like, God forbid someone says, you can't say black people look like bugs!
	And then it's like, my sisters, my sisters have, when you come from a family with tons of siblings and cousins, they're constantly telling you, I have a cousin that told me I look like an almond, and now every time I eat an almond, I kind of see it!
	I kind of see it!
	Come on!
	I can see it!
	I see it, I'm telling you.
	This is the stuff that your siblings used to say to you, you look like this, blah blah blah, and now we put it into the public space, talking to other people, and they're like, you can't correlate this person.
	I may have just read another article of a girl that kicked off of a show, I think it was Love and Hip Hop actually, you know, two minority women fighting, and she called her like monkey ass or something, and it kicked off.
	VH1 has made a big statement.
	It's like, just let the girls call each other names.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	Like we do in real life.
	In real life.
	And get over it.
	Everyone's just so soft now.
	It's hysterical obese women from Nebraska that are causing all the problems.
	It's white women.
	It is white women.
	It's hysterical obese white women from Nebraska.
	I'm so into this obesity thing you're telling me.
	I'm honestly like going to do... Dude, that's your next thing.
	I think it's my next book.
	Listen.
	She's right.
	I have my own ways of saying things.
	It ain't like everybody else's.
	It's interesting.
	And I go by head shapes, not skin color.
	Right.
	Because, I mean, there is a look to the rabid feminist screaming in the street.
	They're all fat.
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	They're obese.
	And they're chronically unhappy.
	Yeah.
	Well, because they're fat.
	And so they want everyone else to be unhappy.
	Yeah.
	No, I mean, that's true.
	Yeah.
	And you can't be... You know why you're fat.
	You really can't be happy at every size.
	I just think that, like, you know, it's just exhaust... Of course not.
	You know, like, when I get... I'm this pregnant sometimes, just, like, when I get to nine months, and I'm just, like, the energy just to, like, lift up out of bed makes me angry.
	But you notice that when they said happy at all sizes, they never talked about anorexic women?
	When are you due now?
	November.
	You're gonna have a Scorpio.
	Am I?
	I don't know.
	Well, unless it's late November.
	Mid-November.
	Scorpio.
	You might have a Sagittarius.
	I feel the baby's gonna come on Thanksgiving.
	Oh, Sagittarius.
	What are you?
	A Taurus, can't you tell?
	Perfect for you to have a Scorpio or a Sag.
	Taurus.
	Yeah, I can tell you're a Taurus.
	Yeah, you're solid.
	Stubborn.
	Stubborn.
	It's not about stubborn.
	It's about solid.
	She's stubborn.
	Yeah, but I also am stubborn.
	You know what you're doing.
	No, you know you're sovereign, not stubborn.
	Candace, can you plug the documentary?
	I don't know the release dates.
	We'd love to get that.
	Convicting a Murderer.
	It is available.
	The first episode premiered on X, formerly known as Twitter.
	Completely free to watch.
	The second episode completely free to watch on Daily Wire+.
	And I know that after you watch the first two episodes, you're going to be hooked, and you're going to want to binge watch it the same way that you binged on Making a Murderer.
	It's super interesting.
	It's the first time that Daily Wire is doing a docuseries, and there's more to come.
	I mean, there's so much stuff that we're working on, but I'm very excited for people to see this because it's apolitical also, guys.
	But also, you are totally deconstructing the media, which I congratulate you for, and that is so needed.
	In this day where we are all under heavy duty mind control by the media.
	We are.
	Thank you.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	That was so fun.
	So chill.
	Yeah, and I think it's, well, I got to read your dates and then we can wrap up, but it is interesting that you chose this case.
	I want to talk about it again because, you know, there is a lot of political tension in this country, obviously, right?
	For you to choose a side that technically is one of ours.
	Yeah.
	To break down the media.
	Like I said, I got upset at first, but now I love it because that's what makes our side Better.
	We just want the truth.
	We don't care if it's a totem or if it's someone we're willing to be wrong and accept wrong.
	So I just love that you're doing that.
	Thank you so much for saying that.
	We're willing to live, love, laugh, and be together and not have artificial boundaries between our souls.
	Yay!
	That's why we'll win!
	Alright, Ma, just a couple dates and then... Oh, I'm going on a tour.
	Yeah, you're going to Florida.
	I call it the 81 Million Jokes Tour.
	In honor of our president.
	I love that!
	And where am I going?
	Jake will tell you.
	Alright, so October 7th, you'll be in Fort Myers, Florida.
	At the Barbara B. Mann Performing Arts Hall.
	October 13th, you'll be in Melbourne, Florida.
	At the King Center.
	And then you have two shows.
	You got an extra show because you sold out.
	October 20th and October 21st in Clearwater, Florida at the Bilheimer Capitol Theater.
	Tickets are available on RosanneBarr.com.
	And we're kind of excited.
	You're going straight to Mar-a-Lago, they told me.
	We are going to get you into Mar-a-Lago.
	We're going to make it happen.
	If I have to fucking crawl my way in through a goddamn window, I'm going.
	Like I said... She will do that.
	She will.
	She will do that.
	They know that.
	Alright, well...
	Thank you so much.
	I enjoyed it.
	Thanks so much for having me.
	That was awesome.
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