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Oct. 25, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 25, 2016, Tuesday, Hour #3
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Another healthcare story.
Open enrollment in affordable care marketplace will bring unpleasant changes to consumers.
Unpleasant changes.
This is a total system implosion.
It is a total system failure.
And what a great time for the phone to ring.
We have with us Mr. Trump.
Mr. Trump's on the phone from, where are you, sir?
Where are you calling from right now?
Well, I'm right now in Miami, Rush, and I just visited two voting areas, and they are packed.
They're two blocks long with people voting.
And obviously all, they're obviously all voting for you.
Well, it looks like it.
They have a lot of hats on, red hats, and they have a lot of buttons on them saying Trump.
So hopefully they're voting for me, I think.
But there are a lot of people.
They said they've never seen lines like this, Rush.
Mr. Trump, I want to make an observation and get your reactions.
We have some, I think, devastating news for the American people today, and that's what's happening with health care premiums.
This 25% is just an average.
It's much higher than that.
Mr. Trump, the people who have destroyed the health care system are also in line to destroy other aspects of our economy, the job market via immigration and amnesty.
And they're out there claiming their fingerprints are all over this.
Yours are not.
Mr. Trump, you don't have one thing to do with anything that's gone wrong in this country.
They do.
And they're throwing out everything they can to destroy you and to prevent you from winning.
And you keep hanging in there.
What is your plan these next two weeks to take this to the finish line?
Well, one thing we're going to do is talk just about that.
Obamacare, jobs, our jobs are being taken away from us, Rush.
Companies, as we speak, are signing documents with Mexico and other places to move.
Our jobs are being look at.
I look at Ford two weeks ago, Ford Motor.
They're going to make all of their smaller cars in Mexico.
They're going to move everything out of here.
And so many, I mean, carrier air condition.
I talk about all these companies.
There are hundreds of companies.
They're moving out to Mexico and other countries.
Obamacare is a disaster.
And you remember, I called that from before it was approved.
I said, this can't work because it's just the plan is no good.
The concept is no good.
Well, but the problem is it is working.
It is working by design.
The whole point of this is to have it fail like this so that they can then have people panic and ask the government to fix it.
And the government will fix it by going single payer with the government totally running the health care system, which gives them so much power over people and their behavior and the way they live their lives.
They don't even want to think about it.
And if they do that, Rush, they'll have an even worse situation that they have now.
You know, if you look at even Canada, the people come down, they want an operation.
They come to the United States to get the operation.
You look at what's going on.
It is a disaster in terms of, cost.
And, you know, the 25% rush is less than half of what the real number is.
The real number in some of these places is 80% to 90% increases.
It's catastrophic, actually.
They put out the phony number of 25% because 25% sounds better than 60 or 70%.
Well, you know, the former head of the Democrat National Committee, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, is out there saying, oh, no, it's been much worse.
Bush was destroying the health care system, and Obamacare is all it's doing is keeping prices from going up more rapidly.
I mean, it's frustrating, Mr. Trump, because their fingerprints, as I say, are all over.
If anybody, in my estimation, is disqualified from having anything further to do with this nation's economy or health care or immigration, it's a Democrat Party.
And you have absolutely, there's not one thing going wrong in this country they can blame you for, and yet they're trying to tell everybody that you're the one not qualified, that you're the one not fit.
What has this been like for you personally?
I mean, you're a winner.
Somebody's wanted everything that you've done.
And these kinds of assaults, I don't think people understand the impact on a family or even an individual when the kitchen sink is thrown at them, as has been thrown at you.
Well, they've been vicious.
The New York Times, they lie.
They lie like I've never seen anything.
They know they're lying.
One of these guys wrote a story, Rutenberg, Jim Rutenberg, a story literally they'll do whatever they have to do.
He practically insinuated they'll tell and they'll say whatever they have to say.
These are vicious people, and these are lying people.
And, you know, fortunately, I can defend myself.
I have, you know, I mean, what do people do that can't defend themselves?
But I'll tell you the good news.
People know it.
People see it.
And they say it's the greatest pylon in the history of politics and probably long beyond politics.
And here's the bottom line.
I think we're doing really well.
You know, they even put phony polls out there, Rush.
You take a look at some of these polls.
They're totally phony.
Now, the poll that called it correct for the last three presidential elections has us up by 2%.
And you take a look at the lines in Florida.
They're unbelievable what's going on.
And early polling at different places has us leading in a lot of different places that nobody was even thinking about.
So we'll see what happens.
But these are bad people, Rush.
And I mean, you've dealt with them for a long time, but they're bad.
They're bad and very evil people.
You have an interesting philosophy in the way of dealing with this.
And people in public life have evolved different theories and ways.
But you are accused of whatever it is with whatever subject.
You choose to defend yourself right on the spot.
You choose to go after.
People say, no, no, Mr. Trump, stick to the issues.
Don't let them sidetrack you that way.
What is your thinking on trying to repel this?
Go ahead.
No, he thinks we lost this.
His cell phone connection must have dumped.
Well, maybe he will call back.
He had a window until about 215 or 217.
And I guess he's in Miami and is going to be flying somewhere.
I heard him say earlier today that they have to win, got him back.
Mr. Trump, we lost the connection, but here you are back with us.
There we go.
They tell me you're back, Mr. Trump.
We got cut off somehow, Rush.
They are evil people.
The press, the media, they're bad people, and nobody, nobody lies like they do.
Well, what I was saying before we got cut off is that a lot of public figures have different ways of dealing with it.
Some ignore it, hoping not to amplify it.
You, obviously, in your life, when somebody's come after you, wounded you, you go right back at them.
And then people say, Mr. Trump, stick to the issues.
Don't be distracted.
What is your thinking in dealing with it?
I never like it when they tell me that, and I'm sure they're right.
But when people say things that are fabrication, you know, there were fabricated stories made up.
These were fabrications.
And you know what I'm talking about.
Out of nowhere.
And this was just like if you remember where they said, you know, with the rallies where they hired thugs to go into my rallies.
Well, I think they hired other people to do other things.
I would rather, Rush, fight it, even though most people say you shouldn't do that.
But if you fight it, at least you're telling the truth.
At least the word is out that, you know, you're innocent of these charges or stating you're innocent.
But other people say stay on job, stay on Obamacare and repealing and replacing it, etc.
So I guess there's two theories.
I would rather fight it, but everyone says you shouldn't do that.
Just go along.
Well, you have to be who you are.
And I think one of the things that has so many people so excited for you is that you do fight, is that you do fight back.
Well, I'd like to at least, you know, make a statement about the truth.
And even if that delays it a day or two, in other words, then they have to print the statement, then they don't talk about jobs in Obamacare, right?
You know, but honestly, I mean, people have to know your view.
They have to know that this stuff never took place.
It was total fabrication.
So I would rather do it that way, but a lot of people disagree with me, Rush.
You may be one of the few that don't.
Well, I just, I believe in people being who they are, and you are obviously who you are.
And I think people should stay who they are.
You're not a phony in any way, shape, matter, or form.
You know, you've got Mr. Trump so many people.
Your support, I mean, you see it at all of your rallies.
It's voluminous and it's deep.
But I don't know if you really have an idea just how many people love you and are depending on you and hoping you win here.
Give me a phone quick.
He's got a phone issue.
I guess we're dropping out.
We can hear him, but we can't hear.
Well, is that what he said?
Get me a phone quick.
Well, let's see if we can reestablish connections here.
I'm a highly trained broadcast specialist and can vamp here while we wait for the connection to be reestablished.
Or is it too late now because he has to leave?
Oh, you're hearing them, but they just can't hear us.
Well, it's probably our phone system's fault.
We've got the worst phone system in all of radio here.
I'm just kidding about that.
But I do hope that we're able to get him back before he has to depart because he's breathing rarefied air.
I know that I look at this campaign of Mr. Trump's in different ways than a lot of people do.
It's politics, of course, and you look at it, political theory, strategy.
But there's so many different levels to the Donald Trump campaign.
I think this event, this thing he's tapped into is bigger than he is.
And it's got millions of Americans, and we're going to find out how many there really are.
And they're totally invested in his candidacy.
They're totally invested in him.
Mr. Trump, I'm told that we are once again reconnected.
Are you there, sir?
Yes, and I'm not sure whose fault, but I'll tell you what, I changed phones anyway, just to make sure.
Okay, cool.
Well, no, no fault.
Look, all I was going to, I know you've got to split soon and leave for your next.
Where are you going next, by the way, from my end?
We're going to different places all throughout Florida.
Our next stop is where's our next step?
Stanford, Florida.
We have a tremendous crowd.
Last night we had 25,000 people in Tampa.
I don't know if you saw last night, Rush.
It was unbelievable.
I did.
Tim Kaine had 30 people at West Palm Beach, and you've got 75,000.
Yeah, we had 25,000 people last night.
We set the record for the arena, and it was beautiful.
And the level of excitement was even more beautiful.
What do you say to people that say that doesn't matter?
That doesn't tell us how people are going to vote at all.
That's just the other thing.
Well, I don't believe it.
You know, they say Romney had crowds, but the truth is he had one crowd, one big crowd the last day.
We've had crowds for five months, I mean, from the beginning.
And now they're bigger than ever before.
No, I think it makes a big difference.
I've heard that theory.
And you know what?
Maybe it's right.
I don't know.
I'll let you know around the 9th.
I'll let you know right after the election.
But nobody's ever had crowds like we're having.
It's a movement.
It's a movement of common sense and, you know, other things.
It really is.
I was going to tell you before we got disconnected the last time.
You see your crowds.
You know how many people are showing up.
I think there are millions more people than you even know behind you praying for you, urging you on, hoping and praying you win.
It's phenomenal the kind of support you have behind you, despite the best efforts to suppress it.
And those efforts are being made.
I think it's profound, the number of people.
Well, they're doing a tremendous suppression effort.
But so far, I will tell you, when you look at where the voting booths are, you know, the voters, we passed, I told you before, we passed three of them.
They're two and three blocks long of people standing there waiting to vote.
And four years ago, they'd have two people in the room and everybody's falling asleep.
The lines are unbelievable getting into the polling places or the voting booths.
So, you know, hopefully that's a great sign.
And these, I think, are real Trump people.
These are people that want to see America be great again.
I think it's all about.
You called here about health care and this disastrous premium increase.
What do you, as far as you've thought about it, what needs to change at Obama?
When you say you're going to repeal and replace it, what are you going to do instead of Obamacare?
How are you going to get prices down?
That's what matters.
How are you going to bring prices down?
It's such a great question.
And there are frankly so many answers.
There are so many savings banks.
You look at the savings health insurance.
There's so many great ways you can do that.
You'll get great plans at much less money, at much less money.
I mean, these people are being just killed.
And you know the 25% was put out by Washington because the real number could be three times that amount.
I mean, it's catastrophic what's going on.
I left small businesses a little while ago, and they were all complaining that Obamacare is putting them out of business.
Not only the regulations, which are a disaster, and the taxes, but Obamacare is putting them out of business.
So you have that concept, the savings account at healthcare.
What you really have are ways of getting people energized by taking ⁇ you have to take down the lines between the state rush so you have competition.
Right now, there's no competition.
None.
And the insurance companies love that because they'd rather have one state than have to compete in 50 states.
But you have to break down the barriers, break down the line so that there's competition.
And once that happens, they will see their costs drop and they will see plans that nobody's even thought of before.
It'll be so beautiful.
Right, because right now the insurance companies are forbidden by law in competing state to state.
They have to stay within states.
So people in certain states are subject to very little competition, which means they have no hope of having.
There's a concept rush of health care savings accounts and other concepts off of that.
But I'm totally serious.
Will have plans that nobody's even talking about now because it'll get more and more competitive.
More and more ideas will come out, and the costs will drop so incredibly.
It'll be an incredible thing to watch.
We are absolutely being killed.
Businesses are closing.
I think Obamacare is now taken over almost from regulation, which is ridiculous what's happening with over-regulation, as the biggest single problem to opening and keeping businesses going.
It's destroying lives.
It's taking people's disposable income away.
It's a disaster what is happening under the whole concept of government knows best here, which clearly is not being demonstrated here.
Before you go, I have to say, I have to ask you something.
I think I heard you say today earlier that you are of the opinion you have to win Florida if you're going to win the whole thing.
Did I hear you right earlier?
Well, I think so.
And again, I'm going by people that I watch and that I listen to and that I read.
They're saying that.
And I think so far we're doing very well.
The latest poll came out even, but at the voting booth, we're killing it.
I mean, you know, I think, look, I think there are a lot of people out there that aren't being polled.
That's what we're seeing in a number of states, including North Carolina, including different places.
You know, in Iowa, we're doing fantastically well.
But we're seeing that there are a lot of people that haven't been polled in Florida.
And the lines are incredible.
They never expected anything like this.
They're getting more people to work inside because they didn't expect anything like this.
Now, we'll speak later on in two weeks and we'll say, well, we were right or we were wrong.
But I think there's a tremendous energy out there, Rush.
And despite the horrendous, really lying press, I mean, the media is so bad, and I hit them as hard as I can.
It's awesome because people have to understand.
But despite this.
Oh, they do.
Mr. Trump, they do.
They understand exactly what the media is doing to you.
Your fan base, your support base is loyal beyond, I think, you know.
Amazing.
I love them.
I love them.
Well, thanks for your time today.
I appreciate it.
And good luck the rest of the way, sir.
Well, thank you.
We're going to be working very hard, and we'll speak to you on the ninth.
Hopefully, we'll have a happy conversation.
Oh, look forward.
Look forward to it.
Thank you, Rush.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, sir.
Donald Trump on the phone with us in Florida.
We'll be right back.
No, I didn't promote it because I didn't know he was actually going to call.
They asked us about 1:30 if we had a window because Trump was leaving from Miami to go elsewhere.
They had a window from 206 to 217.
I said, sure.
But I didn't mention it because anything can happen.
But glad it worked out.
Here is Gretchen in Buffalo as we head back to the phones.
Nice to have you with us, Gretchen.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
It's a pleasure to talk with you today.
Thank you very much.
So I'm a big woman's advocate and a big promoter of women's rights.
And I was watching Elizabeth Warren and the women cheering her on.
And I just, I was puzzled by it because I was looking at that and saying, why aren't you directing that toward Hillary sitting next to you?
Because Hillary Clinton, in my mind, is an enabler to a man who has been proven to abused women.
So she has enabled him.
And she had an opportunity.
She's smart.
She had an opportunity to walk millions of women that are currently in abusive relationships and could have walked them out and show them hope in the light.
But she chose not to do it.
So I'm just totally puzzled why people aren't outraged who are people that advocate for women aren't outraged.
You know what I think?
I think the honest answer to your question is rooted in how our education system all the way through college has been so changed because it requires critical thinking for you to conclude what you concluded.
You have to be able to see Elizabeth Warren attacking Trump for calling Hillary nasty.
Then you have to be able to think, wait a minute, Hillary Clinton's married to somebody that raped somebody and abused other women, and then Hillary came out and came to destroy those other women.
If you can't think that way, then you're not even going to reach the point of being outraged.
If all you've been raised to be is a sponge to soak up and absorb whatever the media shows you and react to that, which is where we are with a whole lot of Americans.
They're just critical thinking by design is not being taught.
It's not being encouraged.
People instead are being indoctrinated.
Okay, I have a couple of minutes here with not as many time constraints.
I give you a little feedback on the conversation I have with Donald Trump.
As those of you who were listening were able to notice and determine, I did my best to keep him centered on the issue that he's making the biggest deal of today, which is Obamacare, which he should be.
This is an unacceptable disaster, what is happening here.
And to me, it's disqualifying for anybody who had anything to do with it.
This is a total mess.
It derives from total, it's two things: total incompetence on the part of the people who presumed to be the experts.
But worse than that, are its devious, real purposes, and that is the elimination of as much individual liberty and freedom in exchange for total government control under the premise you don't know how to live your life unless they plan it and control it for you.
But the other thing that I found fascinating here, I mentioned to him twice that a lot of people think he should stay focused on substance, and instead he answers all of this criticism.
No matter what it is, he will go off message and answer.
Did you hear what he said?
This should tell you people a lot.
He admitted that his advisors are trying to get him to stop doing it.
But he said he's still, he's got to be who he is.
He admitted that he's being advised not to respond to this criticism, but he thinks it's important to correct the record early so that a negative impression doesn't fester from the beginning, from the moment the charge is made.
He thinks it's worth it.
He thinks it's important that they don't get away with the character assassination, even if he loses a day in getting his message out.
Now, that is an entirely different take than what people are saying: that his narcissism and his ego and his immaturity are what's driving his response to every allegation against him.
From I don't care if it's the women that come forward or his incompetence or whatever they're saying about him.
He is making a specific decision, and his advisors are telling him not to do it, and he's blowing them off, essentially.
And he's doing it for strategic reasons, not narcissistic ego-type reasons.
And I found that to be an interesting admission.
And when I asked him about the fact, I thought I'd heard him say earlier today in a Fox interview that pretty much admitted he's got to win Florida if he's going to win it.
He said, yes, that's what they're telling me.
My takeaway here is that he has remained his own man.
He's got his campaign manager.
He's got his campaign CEO.
He's got strategists, a couple of them, and so forth.
And he's got a lot of people advising him, but he's following his instincts.
And, you know, I don't know how many people are able to relate to the kind of assault Trump's on.
I mean, do you realize that he has when you look at media coverage, Media Research Center just released this, the amount of coverage that he has received dwarfs the coverage Hillary Clinton has received, but that 91% of it is hostile.
That is the exact kind of coverage that has neutered Republicans and has turned them into quasi-Democrats.
Most Republicans and a lot of conservative media types wither under such attack.
Don't want any part of it.
They don't want that just, and so they will stop doing what they're doing that's generating that kind of attention.
But Trump is not.
He's not backing down.
They can't talk him off of what he wants to say, whether his advisors tell him it's the right thing to do or not.
And I find it fascinating that this barrage, folks, this is character assassination, life assassination, and he has withered it and withstood it, triumphed over it in his own way, has not changed the way he's going about things here.
Now, many of you disagree.
I'm sure many of you think he ought to just ignore half of this stuff or more, stay focused on the issues, immigration, Obamacare, whatever the issues are.
But you heard him say he's being advised to do that and he can't.
He just doesn't want these attacks to settle in and have those assassinations become established as fact.
But he's there the next day to keep pushing back at him.
And it's, As I say, and when Harry Reid comes at you like this, look at what the Romney team didn't fight back on any of this stuff.
The Bush team didn't fight back on any of this kind of stuff.
And he does.
And I think it's one of the primary reasons that his people have not abandoned it during any of this.
Just my two cents.
Also, on this early voting, traditionally, we've always believed that it's the Democrats that are engaging in early voting because we think it's a ticket for fraud.
I mean, let's be honest.
That's what you and I have thought of it.
But this year, we may have to look at early voting a little bit differently.
And I'm based on the call we had from the woman, Catherine, one of my all-time top 10 favorite female names, but away from Houston, and others reporting some of these irregularities at early voting polling places in Houston.
Where is the enthusiasm in this campaign?
Where is the enthusiasm?
It's on the Trump side.
There is Tim Kaine.
Honest to God, folks, he was here yesterday.
30 people.
Now I know he's the vice president.
Nobody knows who he is.
He's Hillary's running mate.
30 people.
Hillary doesn't draw many more than 250 to 500, unless she's got Elizabeth Warren with her in Massachusetts and New Hampshire.
Then they might get to 1,000.
There is no enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton.
She's what she has going for her is her last name, and there's a D next to her name on the ballot.
That's it.
And if early voting, and Trump told us that there are lines like people are saying they've never seen in Florida early voting, what are the odds those people are showing up to vote for Hillary?
I don't think so.
I just, I don't think that's the case.
And like our caller from Houston said, everybody when she was there to early vote were Trump supporters.
And I would bet you, if you look in these states where there's early voting, I'll bet you'll find that in some of them, the number one group showing up is independents, not Democrats and not Republicans.
Let me ask you about that.
Who are the independents?
Romney won the independence going away in 2012.
The independents today, I have a theory.
I think most independents are conservatives who are fed up with the Republican Party and have abandoned it and registered independent.
I don't think that most independents are abandoning the Democrat Party to go independent.
So if indeed the largest block of early voters are independents, coupled with the obvious signs of enthusiasm out there, you'd have to say that it may be that the early voting is heavy Trump.
Now, the conventional wisdom is going to poo-poo that and wait a little drive-by experts and the political professionals get hold of what I said and they'll ridicule it left and right.
But that's how I see it.
I just, I don't see any enthusiasm.
Hillary may be up five at CNN, 12 at ABC.
Who the hell knows?
But there isn't any enthusiasm for her other than in the media.
That's it.
I mean, even the people bought and paid for by the Hillary campaign do not show up for her.
They show up to try to upset a Trump event.
That's why people are not believing the polls.
There isn't any visual evidence that the polls are reflecting what people see in terms of outward expressions of enthusiasm.
But then the experts say, well, you can't do that, Mr. Limborough.
How many times do we have to tell you?
17,000 people, 10,000 people, that's not even one-tenth of 1% of the total number of people are going to vote.
You can't say that those people represent anything.
That's their story, and they stick to it.
But I'm just sharing with you that which I see.
Okay, Bill in College Station, Texas.
You're next, sir.
Great to have you here.
Hello.
Hey, Arusha.
Really good to talk to you today.
I'm glad you got through, sir.
I appreciate your patience, too.
Thank you.
Not a problem.
Just want to let you know that we've started early voting here in Brazos County, which is where Bryan College Section is.
And we've got other reports that places like Fort Bend County are having the same problem where, just like Catherine said, people are voting straight ticket Republican.
And then when they go to check their checkoff ballot before they cast their vote, they're finding that Donald Trump's name has been unchecked.
I've got two other calls on hold.
I want to make the same point.
They're throughout Texas.
One's in Houston, one's in Arlington.
And you're in college stations.
Apparently, it's happening statewide.
Look, this is major topics on Reddit and Facebook as well.
So it's apparently widespread.
It's happening to a lot of people.
Either they don't understand how the system works or the system isn't working.
One of the two.
Well, I think the glitch is that the Democrats forgot to cover up the fact that they were going to delete the votes for Trump, and it showed up on the screen.
I think that was the glitch.
I don't think the glitch was that there was the other was going on.
All right.
So, okay, well, his starting to break up for me.
But if I understand what he's saying, he thinks that this is a purposeful glitch, and the Democrats or whoever did it screwed it up by causing Trump's name to disappear.
This is alerting people that something's wrong, and they're looking into it and finding out their vote is not being registered.
When, in fact, what ought to be happening is it ought to look normal as it can be, but somebody screwed up the hack.
Folks, we get in the weeds here on this stuff.
Every election we have stories from all over the country about attempts, supposed attempts to tamper with voting machines, hanging Chads.
You remember 2000 in Florida?
I'm sure all of you who have called today to tell us about it are telling the truth, too.
But it looks like it's widespread.
Here's the thing.
Normally, you would count on your party to have lawyers present to be vigilant and looking for any sign of irregularity.
And you would count on your party to handle the legals of this and to make sure if it is being tampered with that that doesn't stand.
But there's some people wondering to what extent that would be the case this year.
So I'm sure people are going to stay on this.
There's as much distrust as there is.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, Bill.
Thanks.
I was going to say we got a whole bunch of them out.
All right, folks, we've got to get out of here.
We're simply out of busy broadcast moments and minutes today, but we're back tomorrow.
Hump day, middle of the week.
Thank you so much for being with us, as always.
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