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Jan. 18, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 18, 2016, Monday, Hour #3
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I'm trying to remember where I saw it.
And I because I, you know, it must have been something I read over the weekend and I didn't print it out because I figured by the time if I read something on Saturday, I've learned not to bother printing it out because the time Monday comes along, it's not going to be relevant anymore.
But it was about this whole dust up.
And greetings, welcome back, Rush Limbaugh.
Happy to have you here at the EIB Network, 800 282-2882, if you're going to be on the program.
It's all about this dust up with Trump and Cruz over New York values and so forth.
And it was somebody writing, and I think it was I don't think it was one of these pedal of the metal leftists.
It was somebody, it was maybe a Republican, establishment type, bashing Cruz for daring to insult people this way.
And they started praising Michael Bloomberg as an example of a great mayor.
And I'm thinking, my God, what in the world?
This is the guy who wanted to tell people that they couldn't buy a soft drink over so many ounces.
This is the guy who wanted to ban trans fats and have all these silly regulations for restaurant menus and stuff, and that was just the half of it.
Here's the thing about this this Trump cruise dust up on New York values.
Everybody that that matters in this knows what Cruz was talking about.
It is why he didn't apologize for it, snerdly.
It wasn't about the character of people and the way they react to uh a tragedy like 9-11.
It was indeed, Trump or Cruz made it very clear.
I mean, these are the people that openly celebrate everything that's right A, B, C, D, E, F, G, on them down the liberal agenda.
The liberal ideological agenda is what New Yorkers vote for.
Whatever you think of it, they do.
And the the point that Cruz has been trying to make is that's where Trump comes from.
And Trump is not.
Cruz wants ownership of the fact that he's the conservative in this race.
And everybody knows that Trump is getting some conservatives as part of his support group because he has a very crucial message that overlaps a lot of what defines a conservative today.
And he's hitting home run after home run after home run when he talks about those things, and they are essentially his attacks on the establishment.
And Trump doesn't specify Democrat establishment or Republican establishment.
He just lumps everybody in with it when he goes after the incompetence of the government, the incompetence of our current leaders.
Can't make good deals, don't negotiate.
It's assumed he's talking about Obama because they're the people in charge.
It's assumed he's talking about Democrats because they're the administration now.
And it's uh it's a legitimate criticism.
It's it resonates with with people who are conservative on a lot of different things.
And I think, in fact, what this kind of illustrates, I'm not uh finally decided on this, but I think the areas of commonality that Donald Trump has tapped into with members of what you and I would consider to be the conservative base actually to some voters are more important than conservatism itself.
And let me give you an illustration of what I mean.
Washington, Obama, take whatever.
Let's say Obamacare or illegal immigration.
Let's take these two things.
Let's focus on the illegal immigration.
I don't think the people in this country who know full well what letting this go on means, I don't think they care who the solution comes from.
If anybody is willing to come along and shut this down And stop this assault on American culture, because that's what this is.
These people are not assimilating.
American culture is being not just watered down, it's being altered and changed.
And there are a lot of people, and they are a majority of people, who do not want this to happen.
They don't believe America is guilty of anything.
They don't believe America is in it should be in decline.
We've had more than our fair share of time at the top.
People don't think this way.
Liberal Democrats think this way.
A majority of the American people don't.
They don't find anything wrong with a powerful America.
They won't find anything bad with an America that wins.
And they certainly don't think anything bad about an America would protect its borders and make sure the country is not overrun by people who are not interested in becoming Americans.
So whoever comes along and convinces voters that they're going to put a stop to it and in the process save America, I don't think they care whether the person's a conservative, a liberal, or a Martian.
That's how big the issue is.
And that's what I mean by I think some of these issues trump whether or not it's a conservative offering the solution.
Here's where it matters.
To people who are conservative who are doubtful of Trump, it's because he is not a conservative, and thus, if he's not a conservative in their minds, then what is he?
Well, he's either an agnostic or he is a liberal, or worse, he's nothing and doesn't care and is a calculating opportunist to go wherever he thinks the popularity resides, i.e.
be a populist, and as such, may be just as bad in other areas while being right on immigration.
And so in that sense, they will worry that he is not a conservative, and he may be right here, maybe right there, but in the long haul, we could be getting in bed with somebody that we can't trust.
Whereas a solid conservative like Cruz, who's also right on the wall, also right on immigration, also right on all of these things, is also going to be right on everything else.
And some people, you know what?
I don't care.
I'm not gonna take it that far.
Uh uh, if I hear somebody who convinces me that they're gonna stop this, meaning this unending immigration, if we have somebody that's gonna stop this lawlessness, if somebody is going to deal with it and put up a wall or do whatever it takes, the wall is symbolic.
If they're gonna do something to stop this, I'm all in, because to a lot of people, it is the defining issue.
If this doesn't get done, then all the rest of what happens in the future is academic because the country is going to be so altered and changed and transformed and redefined for the worst that it doesn't matter.
Other people have that opinion about Obamacare and health care and what it represents.
They are fully aware that health care is how totalitarian regimes get their hooks in.
People are informed and educated enough to understand that every totalitarian regime in modern era has sought first to promise universal health care.
Because once they do, they have total control over a population.
When the government's in charge of who gets health care, who gets treated and who doesn't, they can set forth whatever conditions they want to make you follow in order to get treated.
So if you're gonna have health care provided by the state, then you better not weigh more than what their table says.
Or you better not engage in, say, eating more than 16 ounces of diet coke or drinking more 16 ounces of diet coke in a setting that may disqualify you.
The government say, you know what?
You haven't cared enough about your own health, so we're not gonna put you at the top of the list.
You have a heart problem or some other disease, diabetes, too bad.
Other people have been living the way we've been telling them to, and they're gonna get our first attention.
Smoking, take your pick.
Smoking.
If if you smoke, exception being marijuana, if you smoke in violation of what the state tells you, and in violation of their health accords and suggestions, and you happen to get sick, the state can say, too bad.
You know, there are other people who got sick who followed our directives, they are gonna get first dibs on treatment.
You're not gonna get treated.
The state can do that.
A lot of people who have studied what socialized medicine actually means in terms of a government being able to control people.
It's as big an issue to them Obamacare is as immigration is to others.
The point is that both issues, Obamacare, illegal immigration are speed boats to totalitarianism for governments in charge of them.
Immigration can be used to remake the culture and identity of a nation in not too much time.
You could do it in a generation or two.
You could totally change the makeup, the fabric, the kind of country this is.
With maybe 25 years of unstopped immigration, you pick the places you want to allow the immigrants from you can change what this country is.
You can take 230 years of America and wipe them out in 25.
And people who want to be totalitarian leaders know full well how to do it.
And they know how to use health care as the same, they know how to use government regulations.
They know how to sidestep the Constitution.
So when you have the stakes this high, people in one of the camps that I have described might decide, I don't care if the guy offering the solution, and I believe him, I trust him.
I don't care.
Maybe he's not as conservative as I would like, but if he really does this, I can't not support him.
When I don't hear anybody else saying what he's saying.
Or maybe one other, maybe two others.
So my point here is that for a lot of people, there are issues at this crucial time in our nation's lifespan, where it may not matter what the party affiliation or the ideological assignation is to the person proposing to solve it,
fix it, stop it, what have you.
That's why I think some conservatives are with Trump.
And I think those who are with Trump, I don't think they're with him because they think he's conservative.
So I don't think conservatives are stupid.
Now, some of you in this audience are died in the wall conservatives.
You don't want to be part of Trump precisely because you know or feel he isn't, and therefore not trustworthy on issue after issue after issue, and you much would prefer that for, and it's totally understandable position to have.
That's why the contest is so fascinating.
But don't Don't feel bad for Ted Cruz.
He is, he has turned all of this to a very positive for himself.
You may not know it because the drive-by media is not reporting it, but out there where people who vote in primaries are paying attention.
Let me give you an example.
This is uh this is the uh Daily Caller.
Actually, there's a couple things here.
One of the political Trump brands cruise, a nasty guy.
Trump went after Cruz's likability on Sunday, calling the Texas senator a nasty guy.
Nobody likes him, nobody in Congress likes him, nobody likes him anywhere once they get to know him.
Trump said it in it.
That's the exact criticism that he went after Trump.
I mean, philosophically.
The first time he cruise, the first time Trump went after Cruz, it was on the basis that you know what you can't be Ted Cruz.
Kid Cruz can't be depressed, because look at he can't get anything done in Congress.
He can't get anybody to cooperate with him.
And I said, Donald, that's the wrong way to go after him.
We don't want to work with the Democrats in Congress.
Now they're destroying the country.
We don't want to compromise when we don't want to work.
It's a credit to crews what he's doing.
Plus, it was contradictory because Trump was out there saying that that he's gonna pick his own team and he's gonna do it his way.
He's making this big deal, how he was not a compromiser with people that were no good or any of that.
And here he was criticizing Cruz basically for not compromising.
I said, on the radio.
I said, I haven't talked to him since last summer.
Or maybe it was September, whenever he came up with a McCain thoughts.
And this has the potential too as well.
Because everybody knows what Cruz.
Everybody knows that Cruz was not insulting New York character after a disaster.
Everybody knows Cruz is talking about governors like Cuomo.
And we chronicled this when it happened.
Cuomo actually goes out and says that conservatives, and they describe them are not welcome in New York.
You remember the uh the previous governor, David Patterson, when he found out that I left New York because of taxes, and what he said, well, if I had known, he said, if we had known we could have gotten rid of Rush Limbaugh that easily, we would have raised taxes much earlier than we did.
And the drive-by media is a those are the kinds of things that Cruz was talking about.
And Cuomo, I remember when he said it, I remember playing the soundbite here, and he was talking about how these are undesirables.
These pro-life conservatives have no place in New York.
But he knows this is what Trump was talking about.
Cruz, and then you have the Bloomberg agenda with the limit on the size of soft drinks and trans fats.
Uh and all of this.
So Cruz has turned this around.
While Trump's out there saying that he would do the public a big favor by suing Cruz over eligibility.
Cruz has turned all this around and has been making public apologies to New York because everybody demanded that he apologized after Trump gave him his lunch at the debate, which people thought.
And I'm not even sure that that's the end result of that.
I think again, the main media conventional wisdom is that Trump cleaned Cruz's clock in that debate.
But again, I'm not so sure.
But nevertheless, the demands were made.
Cruz should apologize.
So he's been apologizing.
Over and over again, but not for what he said.
He's been apologizing to the people of New York for the type of leaders they have had.
He is telling them how sorry he is that they have elected the people that lead them, and he's been detailing the kind of things these leaders have been done, governors, and when you get to de Blasio, here's a guy who makes it perfectly clear he thinks the cops are the problem with law and order in his city.
So Cruz is as it flipped it around, he's he's turned these things into uh into positives for uh for himself.
So you don't you don't need to feel sorry for Cruz, he would and you don't you don't need to think, oh my god, this is good.
This is political contest, and it's for all the marbles here.
And to think these two were never gonna criticize each other, that there was some sort of a an agreement that was never ever gonna happen.
I have to take a break here.
Be right back with more after this.
Don't go away.
Okay, we've got the Trump soundbite on Christianity coming up.
It'll be in the next segment.
He was at Liberty University.
You need to hear it.
He's not said this before that I've heard.
Uh, but in the meantime, back to the phones to Detroit and Roger.
It's great to have you, sir.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
Um, we all know Trump's conservative shortcomings, but I'm willing to vote for him anyway because he can win.
And number one thing is he's a patriot.
He wants to seal the border and cut off the benefits to the illegal, and then they can deport themselves.
And he also wants to um stop the export of our jobs by the ruling class.
So I don't see him getting in bed.
You know, I uh Cruz was on board with Obama trade.
That doesn't fit well with me.
Uh you mean the pan-Pacific partnership?
Yes, that's the one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then also he had an amendment to the amnesty that if he like when Reagan gave Amnesty, we were supposed to get E-Verify and border security, but we got the amnesty and we never got the security.
So that's the same deal with Cruz.
He inserts a little amendment.
We would get the amnesty, and they wouldn't enforce the new laws because they're not enforcing the current ones.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I lost you there.
What did Cruz do?
Well, when he he put an amendment to the amnesty when Rubio accused him, he said, Well, hey, Ted, you were in the city.
Oh, that poison pill thing.
Oh, the poison.
Yes, the poison pill.
That was that was that was to make it impossible to vote for.
No, not necessarily no, because when Reagan did it, that was his poison pill.
No, never.
No, no, no, no.
There was no poison.
Reagan just like when Reagan raised taxes with the promise that there'd be spending cuts, there weren't any spending cuts.
He signed Simpson Mazzoli with a promise from Ted Kennedy to close the border.
They didn't close the border.
That was the poison pill, yeah.
And but they never enforced it.
Well, but no, if it were a poison pill, it would have meant that the legislation was never signed.
The purpose of the poison pill is to keep it from being signed.
And what Cruz was trying to do was in his own way uh illustrate that what they were agreeing to was never gonna be they were not telling the truth about it.
It was kind of like me saying, hey, I'll support amnesty if you say they can't vote for 25 years.
Everybody ignored me.
The uh 538 project, this is uh Nate Silver in the uh wonder kind at the New York Times had this polling thing predicting Democrats to win everything, so they loved a guy.
And ASPN hired him away, so he went over to ESPN and started projecting things over there, and uh the bloom went off the rows because Nate Silver started predicting Republicans to win some things, and so the liberals told him to go to hell and so forth.
So he's still over there, and he's still running his polling data, working out his uh in-depth analysis of polling data.
And he has concluded here, they have published from the Politico that Hillary Clinton and Ted Cruz now have the greatest chances of winning Hawkeye Calcai two weeks from today.
New polling base forecast for 538.
Cruz has a 51% chance of winning Iowa.
Uh when national and state polls as well as endorsements are taken into account.
In the forecast, Trump trails Cruz with a 29% chance of winning.
Now, this guy, uh the 538 bunch, led by Nate, so they're considered to be infallible.
Except they're not anymore, but they were.
So Cruz at 51% chance uh chance to win uh Trump at 29.
If the the establishment's all in Cruz winning Iowa, by the way.
Because if they think Trump wins Iowa, it's all over.
So they they're hoping Cruz wins I guess a firewall.
They're their their fear is just with one victory, if in the first place there's a chance for votes to be cast, and if Trump wins it, they think it's gonna create a momentum that was make it essentially all over unstoppable.
So the establishment, I mean these people got to be so confused.
Day to day, they don't know who to be for, because none of their candidates can rise anywhere near the top.
And instead of getting the message that they're the ones out of it, that they are the ones who lack much in common with the majority of their own voters.
They're still trying to conquer and come up with ways to sabotage whoever it is that does win on the Republican side.
It's a breathtaking thing to behold.
And I wanted you to uh alert it or be alerted to it.
Um there are a lot of people think Marco Rubio has stepped in it again here.
The political with this story.
Senator Marco Rubio, in an interview airing on Meet the Depressed on NBC, says that people who immigrated to America illegally, but have not committed any major crimes, could be allowed to stay.
Rubio said that felons shouldn't be allowed to stay, but those who commit lesser crimes could still qualify.
Well, that's pretty much what you get from the regime.
Except that Obama's not deporting felons.
He's letting them go.
But outside of that, that's pretty much what the regime says that law-abiding, undocumented immigrants could stay.
But you know, I hate to be a stickler for these things, but how can an illegal alien be law-abiding?
Rush, that's awfully mean.
I know it sounds mean, but I'm just but Russ, that's that's really that's like the red letter of the law.
That's like being a strict interpreter of the law.
Well, I know, I'm sorry, that's the problem with immigration, isn't it?
No, we're ignoring it.
Someone here illegally, as long as they're law-abiding, they can stay.
But if they're here illegally, how are they law abiding?
Russ, don't you understand?
They mean if they're here, yes, they're here illegally, Rush, but they haven't broken any laws while they're here.
And they're living amongst everybody and they're fine, upstanding people.
I understand that's what it means.
I'm just saying it's not being a stickler for words.
I'm just, you know, words mean things.
This is the problem with this whole issue.
Well, it's hard to say there's just one problem.
Major problem with this whole issue is that from the get-go, it's illegal.
Why do you think proponents want to stop usage of the word illegal immigrant or illegal alien?
Because right off the bat, it nails the issue.
If we're not going to enforce the law, the best way to not enforce the law is to illegal aliens get to stay as long as they obey the law.
Thank you.
This is one of the big problems people have with it.
It's not rooted in prejudice.
It's not rooted in people understand the rule of law is the fabric that connects everything here.
The rule of law is the glue that holds the country together.
And if over here you don't enforce it, and over there you don't enforce it for political reasons, then there's big trouble.
And people who think that way pipe up and they're immediately called racists or bigots.
And all they are asking is for the laws on the books to be enforced.
We don't need any new immigration law, much less comprehensive.
There are plenty of them on the books already, just need to be enforced.
Here's Trump.
Let's uh what else we have here.
Oh, yeah, have number 11 standing by for this.
This is this is Trump.
This is the comments he made on Christianity speaking today at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia.
Now, I say he hasn't said this before.
I don't really know that.
I haven't seen or heard every Trump appearance.
But to me, this is new.
I have not heard him say these things before.
And I can say that.
I don't have to be politically correct.
Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold on, hold it, hold it.
You gotta start here with the very beginning of this because that sets it all up.
Start it again, rewind and do whatever you have to start it over again.
We're going to protect Christianity, and I can say that.
I don't have to be politically correct.
We're going to protect it.
You know?
And I I asked Jerry and I asked some of the folks, because I hear this is a major theme right here, but two Corinthians, right?
Two Corinthians 3.17.
That's the whole ball game.
Where the Spirit of the Lord, right?
Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
And here there is Liberty College, but Liberty University.
But it is so true.
I'm a Protestant.
I'm very proud of it.
Presbyterian to be exact, but I'm very proud of it, very, very proud of it.
And we've got to protect because bad things are happening.
Very bad things are happening.
And we don't, I don't know what it is.
We don't band together.
Maybe Other religions, frankly, they're banning together and they're using it.
Oh, have you heard him say this stuff before?
I haven't.
Again, I'm not saying he hasn't.
I just haven't, I haven't heard it.
This is his audience, Liberty University is quoting Corinthians 317.
Uh Corinthians 2, 317.
And he says, we gotta protect because bad things are happening.
Very bad things are happening, and we don't, I don't know what it is.
We don't band together, maybe other religions, frankly, they're banded together and they're using me.
We're surrounded.
Other religions are aligning against us.
We gotta protect Christianity.
This is gonna send some people through the roof.
Particularly in the drive-bys.
Now, James Carville, this is not the first time he has said this.
But I want to play it again.
This was on CBS this morning today.
He was being interviewed by Charlie Rose, who said, taking the experience you've had in presidential politics, does it look like through your eyes that Donald Trump is going to get the Republican nomination?
Cruz, I think he's got to have more thought out.
I mean, he's got real, real far in his eyes.
But Trump, you know, he's very crafty.
And Charlie, you've watched a lot of entertainers and stuff in your day.
He has a real timing touch to him.
He can really turn a phrase.
If I had to bet right now, and I've said consistently, I thought Cruz was the most talented of these Republican politicians I've seen in a long time.
He was at my house ago.
He's got an idea where he's doing.
He's got a pretty thought out.
All right, so Cruz was at the Carville humble abode because Mary is doing uh Madeline doing a she's working at Cruz campaign or had a fundraiser for him.
Now the question is, does Carville really believe this?
Or does he know that when he says it, so many can serve see, see, Cruz is the guy.
That's what they're afraid of.
Look at Cruz I mean, Carvo came out, he admitted it.
They're afraid of Cruz, see that.
Does Cru this does this does Carvel really think that you think, Mr. Snerdley?
It is.
It's hard to say out there.
Well, hell what he means.
We don't know whether he had a gumbo yell or not.
But he does, he's he said it before.
And Alan Dershowitz in Harvard has said it.
Smartest student he's ever had.
Best debater he's ever seen in college.
Dershab.
Moving on now to audio soundbite number 12, Jonathan Carl, ABC's this week.
This is during the round table.
Noted Democrat hack disguised as journalist moderator, George Stephanopoulos, said, Let me ask you what I asked Donald Trump.
Is it now a two-person race between Trump and Cruz, Mr. Carl?
I have to say, when Ted Cruz came out with this New York values attack, it looked like it was a gaff.
Trump had a great moment in the debate.
But what's it done since?
It has driven everybody back to that interview 20 years ago with Tim Russert, where Donald Trump says he is pro-choice, pro-gays in the military, and does it citing the fact that he is from New York, not from Iowa.
It may have been a master stroke.
Yeah, and I'll let you hear that soundbite again when we get back.
Engineering purposes, it's number 14.
Sit tight, folks, back after this.
Okay, I'm told on good authority that uh Carville means it.
When he talks about Ted Cruz being one of the most talented Republican politicians he's seen in a long time.
Here is what Cruz has reminded people of.
Donald Trump's appearance, this was on Meet the Depressed back in 1999.
Tim Russert says, Do you think gays should be allowed to be married?
It's something I haven't given lots of thought to.
I live in New York City.
There's a tremendous movement on to have and allow gay marriage.
It's just something that is too premature for me to comment on.
How about gays serving in the military?
It would not disturb me.
I mean, hey, I lived in New York City and Manhattan all my life.
Okay.
So, you know, my views are a little bit different than if I lived in Iowa.
There you go.
This whole thing, which people thought to be a big Trump slam dunk win the night of the debate has ended up producing this from the archives of Grooveyard Forgotten Soundbites.
And here it is.
Trump essentially making Cruz's point.
He grew up in New York.
He's different.
He grew up in New York.
He thinks different.
He grew up in New York.
Manhattan's got different attitude about these cultural things.
Bingo.
Also, Cruz is hitting back at Trump for his biblical citation at Liberty University today.
Trump said we're going to protect Christianity.
I can say that.
I don't have to be politically correct.
2 Corinthians 3.17.
That's the whole ball game.
Is that the one you like?
He asked the audience.
The verse, now the Lord is that spirit, and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Seems to have been Trump's attempt to ingratiate himself to the audience of religious students.
This is from the politico I'm reading.
But the crowd tittered, and several of the students audibly corrected him, pointing out that Christians say second Corinthians, not two Corinthians.
Rival campaigns noticed the error immediately.
Cruz's rapid response director, Brian Phillips, said, What is two Corinthians?
Rubio's faith outreach director, Eric Teetzel.
Two Corinthians, it won't matter.
Nothing seems to matter.
What Trump's, they're just frustrated.
Whatever Trump says, it doesn't matter.
Nobody holds his feet to the fire.
And then Trump made his comparison between the Bible and the art of the deal, sailing, saying that the Bible slams it or whatever.
2 Corinthians 3.17.
That's all ballgame.
Is that the one you like?
That's the ask the audience.
Is that it?
If I got it right, is that the is that the is that the not something he likes.
Not something he is that what you guys like here?
2 Corinthians.
And uh the Cruz campaign and Ruben.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
It's Second Corinthians.
Every Christian knows that.
That's their reaction to it.
We take a break, be back after this.
Actually, folks, some Christians would say the second letter to the Corinthians, not just second Corinthians.
Ricardo Montalban.
He would say Rich Corinthian letter, which there never was any of.
It was all an advertising gimmick.
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