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January 8, 2016, Friday, Hour #2
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Obama at the gun control town hall last night and CNN said, quote, there's always the possibility that a firearm in a home leads to a tragic accident.
Unquote.
Spoken like a man who sure sounds like he wants to confiscate guns and gut the second amendment to me.
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Now here's Obama maintaining all night.
I don't want to get guns out of your head.
I don't know why anybody thinks that.
Well, what do you think I won't take your gun away?
No way.
And in the next breath says, after a rape victim tells him she wants a gun in her home for safety.
For herself and her two kids, Obama says there's always the possibility a firearm in a home leads to a tragic accident.
Well, then what?
Get it out of the home, right?
If you believe in a firearm at a home leads to tragic accident, get the gun out of there.
What are you trying to- You gotta get the gun out of there?
You're trying to take the gun away.
How many tragic accidents are there like this?
Compared to, say, the shootings in Chicago.
Compared to, say, the San Bernardino massacre.
Strawdog, straw man.
Here is the soundbite that I promised.
This is Obama and Anderson Cooper talking about this conspiracy.
I mean, it got so bad when Obama said the American Revolution was based on conspiracy theories.
Anderson Cooper could no longer not say anything.
And Obama did.
You know the American Revolution, Bill Duncan's conspiracy theorist.
What conspiracy theory built the American Revolution?
Conspiracy, it was wide out in the open.
Everybody knew what the American Revolution was about.
Obama's even suspicious of that.
So he took a question from former astronaut and the husband of Gabrielle Gifford's.
He's got a twin brother.
Mike Kelly wasn't.
Anyway, I think it's Mark Kelly.
He says, I would like you to explain with 350 million guns in 65 million places, households from Key West to Alaska.
350 million objects in 65 million places.
If the federal government wanted to confiscate those objects, how would they do it?
Now this guy's on Obama's side, don't misunderstand.
He's asking, he's it's a setup question for Obama just to point out how ridiculous it would be.
You got 350 million guns, 65 million different places.
How in the world would you go get them all?
This notion of a conspiracy out there, and it gets wrapped up in concerns about the federal government.
Now, there's a long history of that.
That's in our DNA.
The United States was born suspicious of some distant authority.
Let me just jump in.
Is it fair to call it a conspiracy?
I mean, well, you're a lot of people really believe this deeply.
That they just don't trust you.
I'm sorry, Cooper.
Yes, it is fair to call the conspiracy.
What are you saying?
Are you suggesting that the notion that we are creating a plot to take everybody's guns away so that we can impose martial law.
Is that a conspiracy?
Yes, that is a conspiracy.
Look, I mean, uh I'm only gonna be here for another year.
I don't know when would I have started on this enterprise, right?
You've been doing it your whole life.
I can answer every one of his questions.
I can answer every one of his questions truthfully.
He's not gonna stop thinking about this as long as he's alive.
This question of how do you gonna go get 350 guns in 65 million places?
That's not gonna stop them.
Their dream is to eliminate the second amendment, folks.
Write it out of the Constitution.
Short of that, render it meaningless.
That's how you do it.
That's the start.
You make it illegal to have a gun.
Pure and simple.
Now, everybody out there thinking that would be impossible.
Everybody thinking that there's 350 million of them in 65 million different places, do not understand these people.
Something like that's not gonna stop them.
They're not thinking they've only got 12 months to get this done.
These people think like the old Soviet Union.
There's no four-year cycles, it's whatever length of time it takes to meet the objective.
The easiest way is to make owning a gun against the law.
And that opens every door in these 65 million places that are out there.
Look what they've done with cigarettes.
They haven't even made those illegal.
And look at the success they've had in ridding cigarettes of most places they don't want them to be.
And they haven't even had to make tobacco an illegal substance.
When they set their minds to do it, when they want to deny you something you like, they hell damn well sure do and can.
And they're certainly willing to try.
By the way, I got so mad called Anderson Cooper by his last name.
Let me just jump in here.
Is it fair to call it a conspiracy?
I mean, well, yeah.
Cooper.
I'm sorry, Cooper, yes.
But how about this idea?
This idea that the United States was born suspicious of some distant authority.
Do you realize, folks?
What that means.
Do you realize what Obama has just admitted here?
It has been a contention of mine since I first began learning about Barack Obama that he believes this country is illegitimate.
He believes the founding is unjust and illegitimate.
Founding fathers are nothing special to him.
He believed this country was founded with slavery equal racism and all the bigotry and all the other stuff, and it was basically a white man's club set up for the rich to hold on to what they had.
How about this way of describing?
This is this is stuff like this.
This is why I'm writing these children's books on the truth of American history.
United States was born suspicious, some distant authority.
Was it suspicious of anything?
They were long past the suspicion.
They were escaping tyranny.
First it was religious freedom that was denied.
Hello, pilgrims, welcome, Plymouth Rock.
And then it was the overall tyrannical control of Great Britain and King George that they wanted to escape.
There's no great conspiracy about it.
It wasn't some distant authority.
It was the crown.
And they no longer wanted to live subordinated and subjugated by it.
But the Obama authority should always rule and always win.
And anybody's suspicion, I mean, he is an authoritarian.
He believes in the authorities being great and not flawed.
He believes everybody ought to bow down and unquestioningly obey authority when he is the authority.
So in his warped mind, the United States was born out of a suspicion of some distant authority.
It wasn't distant.
The red coats were living in their homes for crying out loud.
The king required the colonists to house the opposing army for crying out loud.
Wasn't some distant authority.
They were being taxed out the wazoo.
It was a quest for freedom, unlike the world had ever seen before.
And Obama is certainly not proud of it.
He holds it in some disgust, actually.
And then he insists that it is quite proper to call this a conspiracy of thought that people think he wants to take their guns away.
How would I do?
I'm only going to be here for another year.
I don't know what I would have started on this enterprise.
The left has been on this enterprise ever since I've been alive.
Ever since I've been old enough to know what's going on.
I know what the Democrat Party has been trying to do in the American left, they they most certainly have been trying to get guns away.
They have been trying as best they can to relegate the Second Amendment to irrelevancy.
And if they could, they would, and that would be the first step make it illegal.
They bank on the fact that 80% of the people of the country would obey the law.
Just give up their guns once it becomes illegal.
I must obey the law.
I'm a law abiding citizen.
Here's my gun.
If they're not interested in getting guns off the street, why are all these amnesty programs popping up now and then?
If you have a gun and you've committed a crime, and you want to give that gun back, we'll forgive your crime.
But you've got until five o'clock tomorrow to do it.
People show up, they give up their guns.
These clowns want us to think this is not what their objective is.
Listen to this.
Anderson Cooper says 55 people have been shot in Chicago in the last seven days.
Sometimes it's happened just a few blocks from my house, and I live in a reasonably good neighborhood on the south side of Chicago.
There are neighborhoods around the country where it is easier for a 12 or 13 year old to purchase a gun and cheaper than it is for them to get a book.
Notice the comparison here.
It is cheaper and easier for 12 or 13-year-olds to purchase a gun than it is to get a book.
You know what?
You think that's an economic question?
The reason why 12 and 13-year-olds want to go buy guns instead of books, Mr. President?
You think it's because the guns are available?
Really?
Or might it be the culture in which they are being raved, Mr. President?
Might it be that there's no father around?
Might it be that there's no mother around?
Might it be that they are in abject poverty?
Might it be they're growing up in gangland neighborhoods.
But if there weren't any guns, they'd be buying books.
This is insulting to our intelligence.
of this is.
The point is, he didn't get away with his stuff last night like he would have years and years ago.
Okay, before we go to the...
Oh, you gotta hear one more.
Yeah, one more.
Anderson Cooper said the number of ATF agents during your regime has actually declined.
So even if you hired 200 more agents, you'll get it to what it was right before you took office.
One of the most frustrating things that I hear is when people say who are opposed to any further laws, why don't you just enforce the laws that are on the books?
And those very same members of Congress then cut ATF budgets to make it impossible to enforce the law.
There are no budget cuts.
Anyone remember the recently signed omnibus budget bill?
There aren't any budget cuts.
And to start blaming Republicans, you Republicans, see what happens here?
You you went along for whatever reason, maybe you had no choice, cake was baked, whatever excuse, but you went along.
Obama got more than what he wanted, and you're still being blamed for cutting the budget, no matter what.
So you may as well start cutting it.
You're gonna get blamed for doing it anyway, and the right thing to do is to cut it, so you may as well start.
That's another subject, get to that later.
Here's the rape back and forth.
The tone deaf Obama does not shed a tear for a rape victim who wants a gun.
This is rape survivor Kimberly Corbin asking Obama last night.
As a survivor of rape and now a mother to two small children, you know, it seems like being able to purchase a firearm of my choosing and being able to carry that wherever me and my family are.
It seems like my basic responsibility as a parent at this point.
I have been unspeakably Victimized once already, and I refuse to let that happen again to myself or my kids.
So why can't your administration see that these restrictions that you're putting to make it harder for me to own a gun or harder for me to take that where I need to be is actually just making my kids and I less safe.
Okay, a reasonable question, right?
She's not a raving lunatic, not a bitter clinger like Obama thinks all these people are.
Here is what our dear leader replied.
There are always questions as to whether or not having a firearm in the home protects you from that kind of violence.
Really?
And I'm not sure we can resolve that.
People argue it both sides.
Really?
What is true is is that you have to be pretty well trained in order to fire a weapon against somebody who is assaulting you.
Really catches you by surprise.
Really?
And what is also true is there's always the possibility that that firearm in a home leads to a tragic accident.
What a tone-deaf answer.
Nowhere close to a tear, no expressed compassion, no solidarity, no level or degree of understanding with a rape victim who wants to protect their kids, and Obama basically says you're too incompetent, you don't know how, and the gun's gonna go off in that house accidentally and create even more.
What tone deaf?
A tone deaf answer that was.
But some of the things he said in the answer here.
Well, there are always questions whether or not having a farm and a home protects you.
Really?
Really?
Like no guns in schools makes the kids safer, right?
Sorry, I don't mean to be yelling here, folks, but I'm incredulous.
Gun-free zones are not magnets to bad guys, huh?
What is it that stops all these episodes when they happen?
Somebody eventually shows up with a gun.
And then well, what is true is you have to you have to be pretty well trained in order to fire a weapon against somebody who sold you.
Wait a minute, I thought gun violence was easy, and that was the problem with it.
I thought we had to get guns off the street and out of people's hands because it's just too easy to pull that trigger and bamboo.
Now all of a sudden you have to have a lot of training, and I'll able to do that, by the way.
NRA has the best gun training program in the world out there.
But you have to be ready trained, well trained to fire a weapon against somebody who's assaulting you, catches you by surprise.
Uh the gun's the whole point of that.
Do I have time to squeeze one more?
Yeah, it's just old.
He said that Michelle taught him to understand why the bitter clingers want guns.
I guess we should hear that.
And I gotta do other things.
We're jamming as much in here as we can, folks.
So hang in there and be tough.
Don't go away.
Okay, soundbite number 22.
This Obama last night, guns in America Town Hall.
Anderson Cooper, you know, back in 2008, you talked about bitter clingers, Americans clinging to their guns.
And even now, um, that makes a lot of people concerned, Mr. President.
Back in 2007, 2008 when I was campaigning.
I'd leave Chicago, a city which is wonderful.
I couldn't be prouder of my city, but where every week there's a story about a young person getting shot.
Yeah.
So that's one image.
Michelle and I are then campaigning out in Iowa.
And we're going to farms and we're going to counties.
And at one point Michelle turned to me and she said, you know, if I was living in a farmhouse where the sheriff's department's pretty far away, and somebody can just turn off the highway and come up to the farm, I'd want to have a a shotgun or a rifle to make sure that I was protected, my family was protected.
And she was absolutely right.
What the hell is he talking about?
Counties?
Yeah, I was out in Iowa.
You know, they got farms, counties there.
You ever heard of Cook County?
Chicago.
Ever heard of Cook County?
So I guess Iowa is all farms, and you're far away from the sheriff out there.
So if it's some Malcontent turns off the road and decides to come up and do something to you at your farm, yep, Michelle told me it would make a lot of sense to have a shotgun.
Come on.
These people somehow, if if if you can get them to open up, they will put every prejudice they've got on display.
And you just heard a bunch of whoppers from our supposedly aerudite, sophisticated, elitist intellectual constitutional law professor president.
Subject of Iowa comes up.
Hayseeds, corn stalks, farms, far away from anything or anybody.
Counties.
Yeah, they've got counties in Iowa.
Can you imagine Obama and his buddies sitting around?
Yeah, you know what?
I was in Iowa.
You know, they got counties out there.
Not much in them.
Myself in Wells Counties when I was campaigning.
Yeah.
Michelle said I'd want a shotgun too if I live in a country.
Well, hell, who wouldn't want to live in a county?
I wouldn't want to live in the county.
Not me.
Okay, time to get to the phones here.
But first, the big news out of Philadelphia.
You um you might know that there was a police officer shot, cold blood murdered in uh in Philadelphia.
And it turns out just just not long ago, the Philadelphia police are saying the shooting of the officer was ISIS inspired, that the shooter claimed allegiance to ISIS.
I saw it during the last segment on Fox, and they also uh had it up on CNN.
So Philadelphia police admitting the murder of the officer, the shooting of the officer was ISIS inspired.
Okay, to the phone's being up, we're gonna start with Steve in Putnam County in New York.
I'm really appreciative that you waited.
Thank you, sir.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
Uh I know you're a huge NFL fan, as I am.
I'm the host of an uh an NFL show on a CBS sports radio affiliate, and one of our popular segments is called Bonehead Football Media Matters.
Notice the Media Matters pun there.
Um we expose the same bias and idiocy and and left wing boneheadedness from the NFL media as there is in the news media in this country.
But while while many highlight the news media for their bias and idiocy, the sports media is pretty much left unchecked, which is amazing to me.
I've heard you bring up some of their left-ness uh from time to time, if that's a word, but but for the most part, these guys got a free pass, and it just blows me away.
Yeah, how long has it been that you've noticed this?
In other words, w when did you first start noticing that left-wing political cultural left-wing bias became prominent in sports play by play, uh ESPN type uh sports news coverage, uh magazine which I really wasn't there when I started this show about eight years ago,
but it's been getting steadily more and more biased, and I would say over the last five years or so, it's that there's just as much bias in the sports media and the NFL media as there is in the traditional news media in this country.
I think even more so, but you're you're you're exactly right.
If if not more so, it's equal.
In fact, you have some sports media people who are more open and blatant about their left-wing liberal bias than in the news media.
I mean, I don't want to mention any names because when I mention names on this program, they get all kinds of national notoriety, and I don't want to do that for them.
But I know who you're talking about.
I know exactly.
I've chronicled it on this program too.
I'm you know, when uh when I had my ill-fated five weeks at ESPN, uh one of the uh uh things that they said was, it's just a football.
You know, you bring you in here as a football fan.
And I did.
And then the McNabb incident happens and and blew up, and they the next week, that entire gang on that show tells everybody that I had promised to keep politics out of my commentary, and that I broke that promise, and that I was infusing politics in their show, and I had to go.
And I had not done so.
And ever since then, it has been nothing but politics wall to wall.
I think it corresponds to when people in the left think that they are losing uh in public arguments, the arena of ideas, uh, or else they're just unable to contain themselves.
And I and also many of them are young coming out of journalism school, newly empowered uh to to take their bias and so forth as they've been instructed in journalism school into everything else that they cover, not just sports, it's everywhere now, too.
You know what I find interesting about it?
Liberalism, I find it in direct opposition to what makes sports work.
And if these clowns aren't careful, they're going to kill the very industries from which they derive their living.
They're going to damage their credibility.
Look at what's happening to football now.
Yeah, Rush, your story about uh Donathan McNabb that you just mentioned, that is highlighted in a book that is out called Bias in the Booth.
The author is Dylan Gwynn.
I don't know if you're familiar with it.
Nope.
Um but there's a there's a whole chapter on that incident in the book.
Well, I uh how's it portrayed?
Have you read it?
Yeah, it's portrayed from a logical thinking conservative guy named Dylan Gwynn, and uh he takes issue with what happened to you.
Well uh fascinating.
Uh I I I don't when I ask you the question, when did you notice it starting?
I asked myself that too.
Uh but now it's almost when you when you watch a nationally televised game with nationally known uh commentators and so forth, you almost you you sit there, you wait for it to come.
If there's a gun shooting, you wait for somebody at halftime to deliver you a sermon on it.
Um that's one small example of all the different types of bias and idiocy that that I see daily.
I don't even have enough time in my show to cover everything every week.
Well, it's just amazing.
You have a whole show devoted to it, so there must be plenty of it.
Well, it's only a one-hour show, and only one of the segments is uh is the bonehead football media segment.
So let me ask you this since you're making it especially.
Do you do you think that it can eventually get to the point where it turns off viewers and listeners and readers who simply are using sports to escape all of that?
Then they have to be confronted with it again, particularly biased from the left wing when they're watching football or baseball or whatever it is.
Um I guess that is possible, but you know what?
There's again, there's nobody else out there other than a few people, you bring it up once in a while, that are highlighting the same stuff we see in the traditional news media in this country in in the sports media.
And so I feel it's my obligation and duty as a conservative to highlight this stuff everywhere.
Well, you're doing a let me tell you something.
You're doing a great job because there's there's more people commenting on it than you know.
Just like I remember when I first started the show 27 years ago.
Uh I'd got people calling here, telling me about the bias they saw in the media, the nightly news the night before, as though they were the only ones that noticed it.
And they were worried that all this stuff was was was working because the American people were not catching it and all this bias was happening, and I would tell them, no, no, you're not alone noticing it.
All kinds of people are noticing it.
And I would tell you the same thing.
All kinds of people.
I read a lot of blogs, tech, sports, you name it.
And when I really want to have fun, I go to the comments.
And you can find uh uh on on certain blog sites that are I don't look at I don't want to name anything here because folks, when I do it, they become bigger and have more attention focused on them, and I don't want to do that, but there's plenty of them that are blatant in their liberalism in coverage of uh something that happened at a football game or something going on with the legalities of football, like moving to Los Angeles, whatever it might be.
And half, if not more, of the comments rip the political angle of the reporter or the story.
So there's a lot of people aware of it.
That's why I asked you if you had any thoughts on on what impact it might have.
I mean, they're insulting the audience.
You know, when they start preaching politics and liberalism and and uh this sanctimony to sports fans, they're insulting the audience, at least that percentage that isn't uh liberal and so forth.
So, and the fact It's always been a refuge from the humdrum, a reality of everybody's life.
Anyway, Steve, uh, keep up.
I uh I'm glad to hear you're doing what you're doing.
It needs to be rooted out and explained, highlighted, illustrated wherever it is, so that more and more low information people learn about it and cease being low information.
Gotta go.
Back after this.
Don't go away.
I misspoke.
The police officer in Philadelphia survived.
Despite being filled with a full clip, we have a couple sound bites.
Here we go from Philadelphia, the mayor Jim Kennedy.
By the way, this guy, the mayor of Philadelphia.
He's so far left, he's off the horizon.
Sanctuary city.
I mean, this guy's full-fledged.
Wacko leftist.
But he held a press conference today to discuss the shooting of Officer Jesse Hartnett by the suspect Edward Archer, who confessed, saying he did it in the name of Islam.
Here's a portion of the mayor, I'm sorry, uh commissioner Richard Ross, in his remarks.
The suspect in question, it's a 30-year-old male from Yaden.
He has a Philadelphia address as well, I believe, is confessed to committing this cowardly act in the name of Islam.
According to him, he believes that the police defend laws that are contrary to the teachings of the Quran.
Yay, nothing to sweat here, folks, just a one-off.
Nothing to see here.
He's just following Sharia.
I mean you have here a cop defending laws, contrary to the teaching of the holy Quran, which I mean Sharia.
You guys blatantly upfront and open, honest about it.
Here's what the mayor, Jim Kenny said.
In no way, shape or form does anyone in this room believe that Islam or the teaching of Islam has anything to do, which you've seen on that screen.
That is abhorrent.
It's terrible, and it does not represent the religion in any way, shape, or form, or any of its teachings.
This is a criminal with a stolen gun who tried to kill one of our officers.
So here you have the police commissioner quoting the suspect, admitting why he did it, and a loony tune mayor comes in, not a suspect's an idiot, it doesn't know what he's talking about.
Does it represent Islam in any was this guy Islamic?
The mayor Islamic?
And how would he know?
Well, uh does it represent the religion in any way, shape, or form, or any of its teachings?
Most certainly does.
It most certainly does.
That's why.
This guy's classic, this mayor.
He's a liberal, but he can't even tell you why.
Get into an issue discussion with the guy, and you'd have him snipied.
It's just the thing to do.
It's just the thing to be.
It's just the things to believe.
Why?
It's above my peg grade.
It's a criminal, stolen gun, tried to kill one of our officers.
Nothing to do with being a Muslim or following the Islamic faith.
So the guy lied in his confession.
Why?
Folks, it's tough.
It's tough when we elect idiots like this, and they end up in in positions of authority.
Jim in Freehold, New Jersey, your next on Open Line Friday.
Hi.
Jim?
Yes.
Are you Jim?
Are you Jim?
Yes.
Are you in Freehold, New Jersey?
Yes, freeholding Jersey.
And you're the next one.
I'm a gun owner.
All right.
And uh I was just out of range, at a range in New Jersey.
Uh firearm range.
And I'll tell you, it was very crowded.
I never saw it so crowded.
And I had to wait 15 or 20 minutes to get a spot and have about 10 different uh spots, you know, to shoot from.
And uh the the thing that I noticed was these people didn't own guns.
They were on the range.
They were they were renting guns there, so that means that they were ready to buy guns.
There was about 10 or 12 people that rented guns.
It was like groups of three, four shooting at one spot, you know.
Jim Libra, I never saw anything like it.
And I imagine it's from what Obama's been saying.
Well, let me ask you a question.
Do you hear me?
Yes.
Okay, let me ask you a question, because I there are a lot of liberals in the audience.
And they would, I'm not, there's a question they would love to ask you.
How many people got shot at the range today?
None.
We we practice safety like you wouldn't believe.
Really?
You don't shoot people at the range?
See, the left mind know this, folks.
This is the one.
I want targets that look like people.
They look like liberals, I think.
No, I tell you, this is your your observations right on the money.
And Obama, see, folks, he has to know this too.
Every time the last seven years that he's gone out there and made any kind of proposal or given any indication whatsoever that he wants stricter, tighter gun laws, you know what happens?
Gun stores sell out.
People go out, they start stocking up, they buy guns like never before.
He is the best gun salesman the industry's ever had.
Now the thing is he has to know this.
He has to know that the exact opposite of what he wants is happening as he goes out and pitches his ideas.
So, I mean, psychologically, what do you think that's about?
I'm serious.
When Obama is confronted with the fact that he is inspiring record gun sales.
I wonder how he deals with that.
Well, I can't be blamed for that.
Um I'm trying to save people's lives and prevent accidents and so I can't.
Or does he get Machiavellian about it and say, yeah, it's even better.
That's what I want.
I want more guns than ever out there so that there's more violence than ever out there, so that when I make my mad dash to get rid of these things, people will beg me to do it.
And I would put money on the ladder, folks.
Don't doubt me.
Ken Bloomington, Illinois.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Rush, uh, you know how the Obama and the Democrats are always trying to make us uh like Europe.
Well, how is it that uh European countries became gun free?
And doesn't that illustrate fully the need to fight for the second amendment here?
Yeah, I saw your call up on the board, and I've never delved into it.
Uh meaning I've I I don't know what the history of uh private gun ownership in uh in Europe is.
I I have a little bit of knowledge.
I expect it was by government fiat that they took those guns away.
Yeah, I just don't know when.
I mean, I don't I don't know the history of it, which is what I thought your question is.
Clearly they've got strict gun control laws there.
Uh and these incidents still happen.
But the the point you're making is is that a lot of these incidents would be stopped were more citizens armed there, and why isn't that a lesson?
I don't think that people this country need a lesson, frankly.
I'm not not not to uh diminish the point you're making, but I I don't I the the people that need a lesson in this country are liberals and leftists, but you can't teach them anything.
It's like the guy I told you about who had the posh fashionable Fifth Avenue apartment, this Republican establishment guy, who uh kept telling me that the biggest problem this is back in the 90s, we just got too many guns.
They gotta get rid of the guns.
But he couldn't tell me why.
He had no you get into policy discussion with him, start talking statistics.
Same as immigration.
They can't tell you why they think what they think.
They just think that it ought to be.
Now, part of it is they're required to believe that in order to be in their group or click or whatever.
But seriously, these are some of the most insular, insulated uh people, they think they're the smartest and most intellectual in the world, and they are really some of the most ignorant, and they can't tell you why they believe what they believe, other than the well, it's just a smart thing to do.
Everybody knows.
But you get them into any just the slightest discussion of policy, and they're lost.
They cannot describe or explain or sell their position at all.
Okay, a couple things still to jam in the final hour.
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