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Aug. 11, 2015 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 11, 2015, Tuesday, Hour #3
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And we are back at it, Rush Limbaugh, the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
Happy to be with you, my friends, as always the case.
Executing assigned host duties flawlessly, as is also always the case here behind a golden EIB microphone, 800-282-2882, and the email address, lrushbo at eibnet.com.
I just got a very clever email that is forcing me to think about something.
The emailer, I'm paraphrasing it here, reminded me that I'm on record as often saying that polls this far out are meaningless and that I don't pay any attention to them.
So why are you hyping all this Trump polling data, Rush?
You yourself have said that you don't start paying attention to polls until you get down to the, you know, the summertime of the actual campaign year.
And that is a, it's, it's a good question.
I find myself getting caught up in this stuff.
And I think the reason is that we've not seen it before.
And I can't emphasize that enough.
By everything that's happened in this world of politics within our lifetimes.
I mean, let's be honest, folks.
Donald Trump should have been gone, I don't know how many times in this race, but he's not.
And we've not seen this before.
Nobody has.
I mean, we've seen candidates like this before.
Not as good, not as charismatic, but they have fallen by the wayside very quickly.
In practically every previous campaign, if somebody was not obviously a professional politician, once that was spotted, they were finished.
They were not taken seriously and they were gone.
And they didn't get very far anyway.
Well, that's another rule that's been broken here.
Trump is by no means a professional politician.
In fact, you know what he admitted to?
Let me find a sound bite here.
Trump got back on the issues.
Let's start here at number six.
Trump got back on the issues today.
He's now taken a break from responding to attacks, hitting back, personally attacking people.
He's back to the issues.
But it's the second soundbite I have coming up here that is also indicative of how we've not seen this before.
The first is from Fox and Friends this morning.
Steve Ducey said, ISIS is a problem abroad and a problem here at home.
You have made clear that you would use force to go after them.
Are we talking boots on the ground?
I say this.
I didn't want to go there in the first place, but now we take the oil.
We should have kept the oil.
Now we go in, we knock the hell out of them, take the oil, we thereby take their wealth.
They have so much money.
They have better internet connections than we do in the United States.
They're training our kids through the internet.
We have to knock out their wealth.
The other thing, through Saudi Arabia and other places, tremendous money's flowing in.
We have to stop that flow of money.
But take the oil, knock the hell out of them.
Now, this has been part of Trump's repertoire even before he dreamed of getting into any political contest.
I mean, years ago, you go back to post-9-11 of 2001.
You see a Trump on TV, and this was his theme.
What are we doing?
I mean, going into Iraq, and what are we doing leaving them with the oil?
Why, if it weren't for us, they would have a country.
We should get first dibs in the oil.
Why are we allowing the Chikoms and others to come in and bid on it?
And of course, the answer was, we're the big superpower.
We have to appear magnanimous.
We can't run around the world conquering things and taking things.
This is the attitude.
There's already enough hatred and disgust for us.
So we have to let the little guys have a stab at some wealth.
We guess, you know, the leftist argument is that we've run around the world and we've stolen the wealth that we have.
We haven't really created.
It's what Obama and his gang believe, that the United States has really just run around the world and co-opted everything.
We've stolen the natural resources and wealth of other nations, and that's how we're rich.
And it's not fair.
So forth.
Trump doesn't buy that, of course.
And his thinking is common sense.
Hey, look, if Iraq is in danger of falling, and if we go in there to save it, and there's an immense reservoir of oil there, why the hell shouldn't it be ours?
We're the ones that saved it.
Why are we giving it away?
This has been a theme of his.
Okay, so he's back to this today.
Now, tactically, he's doing this with ISIS.
Now, it's one thing to say, and it sounds really good, to go get the oil, but how are you going to do this?
To go get the oil out of Iraq, this is another invasion.
And then after you invade the country, you've got to hold it.
You don't just go in there and get the oil.
There's a whole lot of military things you have to do first before you get it.
And then you've got to deal with the UN and all kinds of people.
But just on the surface, what Trump is saying makes imminent common sense.
And believe me, there are people all over this country who love this country, who think attitudes like that are what has been missing.
There are nations all over the world that ought to be saying thank you to us, ought to be offering us some of the oil that we have protected for them.
It ought not even be a question of us having to go in and take it.
Trump comes along and stands up for America.
He comes along and stands up for what's right, people's view.
And so this view is widely accepted.
Now, this next bite, CNN, Chris Cuomo, says that Rich Lowry says that you're the most fabulous whiner in the world.
And you've shown that if it were, if you were to sit across from Putin or Mexico or Middle East leaders, that as soon as they said something you don't like, you'd become a whiner and snipey, and you'd start attacking them as losers, and you wouldn't get anything done.
What do you say to that?
I am the most fabulous whiner.
I do whine because I want to win.
I'm not happy.
Are whiners winners?
And I'm a whiner, and I keep whining and whining until I win.
And I'm going to win for the country, and I'm going to make our country great again.
How do you work with government?
You can't just come back at everybody.
I've been better than the insult.
I've got government.
Hey, Chris, I'm worth more than $10 billion.
I can do what I want.
And what I've been doing is working.
You can't just come back.
You know something?
There's a lot tied up in this bite.
Number one, can you think of any candidate anywhere for any office who admits to being a whiner and turning it into a positive?
Can you think of any, Brian?
Can you think of anybody who's ever tried that?
And number two, you notice Chris Cuomo said, you just can't come back at everybody.
How are you going to work with government?
You just can't come back at everybody.
This is something I think the left operates on.
think the left attempts to silence its political opposition by insulting them constantly and making it look like they are whining if they respond to it i think whether chris cuomo knows it or not it's a tactic that his side uses to quell opposition to silence opposition which is what their objective is at least obama's you know these people are not interested in a debate They're not interested in a free-flow exchange of ideas.
They are into eliminating opposition.
And I would say that that's Trump's attitude toward our enemies.
Why do I want to get along with him?
What's the point of making a deal with him if we're going to lose?
I want to win.
And if I don't care to whine about it, I whine to win.
Chris will, show me any winners who whine.
And I don't think Trump and these other people are defining whine in the same way.
A whiner is a helpless complainer.
There's nothing helpless about Trump.
Maybe whine's not the correct word or whiner to describe what he does.
He just refuses to take insults.
He refuses to chalk it up as that's the way the game is played.
Those are the rules and you move on.
Somebody attacks him, by God, they're going to hear about it.
You can tell the man's in love with himself.
He's rich, really rich.
He's got $10 billion.
Tell me how I'm losing.
Cuomo, tell me how I'm losing.
I got $10 billion.
And then the next one, this is back to Chris Cuomo, CNN.
Cuomo said smart men aren't always good to women.
What do you mean?
I've always been good to women, and there will nobody be better to women as a president because when I talk about health issues, I will take care of women like nobody else can.
Certainly Jeb Bush doesn't even know what he's talking about.
He admitted that the other day.
And believe me, that will be his 47%.
His statement on women's health issues will take him down.
You've got to go with the punches, like the boxers say.
Right, but you have to have a core set of ideas.
You have to have certain flexibility.
You have to get this through and pass to a vast web.
We can't just keep signing executive orders all over the place.
You have to have core principles that people can grab on to and vote for you.
And by the way, Hillary Clinton won't.
She won't take care of it like I will.
How can you say Hillary Clinton won't take care of women's health?
I think I know my capability, and I think I know her capability, and I'm much more capable than she is.
Now, before you react to this, I want you to think of something.
You've seen Trump's TV shows.
A lot of women on those shows, right?
A lot of women in management.
How many, I don't know.
How many women that have worked for Trump have sued him?
Any?
I mean, how many discrimination suits have there been against Trump?
I can't think of any.
Not saying there haven't been any.
How many women that have worked for Trump have gone public and say he doesn't pay us fairly?
He uses us.
To me, I mean, just a casual observer, I think Trump loves women.
I think he's all about women.
And I know that he has them in positions of power and authority within his company and his organization.
But he's just, he just shatters all of these conventional wisdom beliefs.
Like, Chris Cuomo, what do you mean you'd be better than Hillary on women's issues?
Chris Cuomo can't even can't even comprehend that there would be anybody better than Hillary on women's issues for whatever reason.
Here comes Trump claiming that he would be far and away better on women's issues than Hillary.
And Chris Cuomo has no idea what to do with it.
Such a foreign foreign concept.
Trump's saying, well, because I'm a more capable person than she is.
And we know that the women that work in the Obama administration do indeed get short-changed on salary compared to the men.
And don't we know that about Hillary's office too?
Haven't we heard that about him?
Isn't it true that the women in Hillary, their Senate office, did not make nearly what the men made?
Except maybe for Huma, who gets paid by everybody, it seems, and it's probably an exception.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll repeat it.
I said in the first hour, Snerdley's asking me to repeat something.
I said, I have this something I would like to see.
The first Democrat debates, October, did you say the 13th?
Well, it's somewhere there.
It's in Nevada.
And is it the 13th?
It's my mother's birthday.
Anyway, Margaret Thatcher's birthday, too.
Anyway, you know, after the Fox debate and the first round of questions to Trump, there were a lot of people saying, you know, that kind of stuff.
Nobody ever asked Democrat candidates that kind of stuff.
Well, I've got a way.
I've got a way it could be done.
You need a female moderator.
Take your pick.
It'd be Cokie Roberts, could be Andrea Mitchell, NBC News in Washington.
But you need maybe a male moderator, actually.
Just to reverse things, just to keep it consistent.
Mrs. Clinton, it's time for the first question of the debate on CNN.
And the moderator says, Mrs. Clinton, let me mention seven names to you.
Paula Jones, Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willey, Jennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinsky, Beth Dozeritz, Denise Rich.
And of course, the crowd would be booing and hissing, and Mrs. Clinton would be frowning and trying to fake a smile while all that's going on.
And the moderator says, now tell us, how can you look at anyone with a straight face?
Paula Jones, Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willie, Jennifer Flowers, Beth Dozeritz, Denise Rich, Monica Lewinsky, how can you look at anybody with a straight face and talk to them about family values when it takes a village to satisfy your husband?
You don't think that the drive-by media would be all over that moderator?
That'd be the last debate that moderator ever did.
I have no idea what Hillary would do with the question.
But, I mean, if we want to have tit-for-tat, if we want to see similar treatment, which people have told me, you know, we never see something like this in a Democrat.
Well, this is a way we could see it.
Bob, Tuesday, October 13th.
Okay, put it on the calendar.
We'll have to do that.
Seeing it'll be doing a countdown, a minute-by-minute countdown for three days prior.
So we don't have to put it on the calendar.
Here's Bob Brunswick, Georgia.
Great, you called.
Welcome to the EIB Network, sir.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
How are you today?
Very well.
Thank you.
Good, good.
Hey, listen, I just wanted to make a comment.
You know, I really want to support Trump.
And, you know, he's been saying a lot of things that we've been waiting for.
And, you know, it's kind of exciting and a different time in politics.
We haven't seen this in probably ever.
I want to trust that he's an honest broker, but I want to trust that he's an honest broker, but he has had many different positions over the years.
But my issue is that the phone call, there's never a coincidence with the Clintons.
And his phone call to encourage him to encourage, Bill's phone call to encourage Trump to run.
Oh, yeah.
Really, that's a large wall that I have to climb to get over, to support him.
I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, but don't you think what's happening right now, all the dust up with Trump, don't you think that that plays, especially the first question in the debate, plays right into the Clintons' hands?
They were just loving that.
Well, now, that's a secondary.
Let me think about that.
The first question plays into the what do you mean?
The raise your hand question.
Oh, the raise your hand question of third-party business.
Oh, I was thinking the other question about the names he's called women.
No, no, no.
Again, I like him slapping political correctness right in the face and not backing down on it.
But what I'm saying is the phone call bothers me because there's no coincidences with the Clintons.
There's none.
And for him to make a phone call to Trump before he decides to get in, and then all of a sudden he gets in and seeing what's happening now and all the dust up, I mean, that debate was full of substance, but all we're talking about is Trump, you know.
And to me, it just plays right into Clinton's hand.
He goes, you know, if the potential of him going a third party, it's hello, Hillary.
That's a legitimate concern.
A lot of people have it.
Well, I want to know what you think.
I want to know, you know, considering that you've told us for 28 years, there are no coincidences when it comes to the Clintons, what do you think?
Well, you're asking me if I think that there is a Clinton-Trump cabal that has been arranged behind the scenes.
Trump is doing this at the behest of it with the wishes of the Clintons to sabotage the Republican campaign and field.
Is that the specific?
Well, I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist.
No, it's not conspiracy.
It's political strategy and conspiracy theory.
Hey, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I just find it a little bit suspect.
Well, here, hang on a minute.
I'm going to make you own this question.
If you hang on through the break here, I will come back here and tackle this.
I want to get to the real meaning of your question.
Now, back to Bob in Brunswick, Georgia.
Bob, let's review what we know about that phone call.
There are two versions of that phone call.
The Trump version of the phone call is, wait a minute, I'm not sure there's a Trump version.
The Clinton version of the phone call is, yeah, we made a call.
We didn't talk about the campaign.
Just a courtesy call.
I didn't talk about it, didn't urge him to do anything.
The other people talking about the call say that Clinton did call and urge Trump to go for it.
Republican Party needs new juice.
Conservative movement needs new juice or whatever.
Two thoughts on this, Bob.
Honestly, I really believe that the fact that we have heard about that call means it didn't happen.
If that call had really happened, if Bill Clinton had really called, like you asking me, if Bill Clinton really called Donald Trump and told Donald Trump, made a deal with him to run, to screw the Republican Party and make sure he ran as a third-party candidate to give it to Hillary, we would have never heard about it.
We would have never, we would have never heard about that for the phone call leak came from Clinton AIDS.
The fact that we've heard about this call came from a leak by Clinton aides.
Now let me give you- Why haven't Trump, I mean Trump's so honest with- Why doesn't he just say the phone call never happened?
I'm not sure how.
Has he commented on this at all?
Well, I don't know if he has or not, but I haven't heard he said.
I mean, believe me, if the phone call didn't happen, I would think Donald Trump would say the phone call never happened.
Like he's been doing, like he's been, you know, being honest with everything else.
He would have said, he would have said immediately the phone call never happened.
I just think if all of this is a deep Clinton ploy to get Trump in the race, they wouldn't want to undermine the whole thing early on like this by leaking it and alerting everybody's attention to it, such as yours.
But on the other side of the, wait just a second now.
Are you aware of how close to the Bush family the Clintons are, particularly Bill Clinton?
Oh, sure.
I don't know if you are.
Bill Clinton goes to Kennebunk every August.
Barbara Bush has called Bill Clinton a son she never had.
Right.
Bill Clinton and the Bush family are tight ever since Obama sent him on this charity, this tsunami thing.
Bush 41 and Clinton and Bush 43 and Clinton have gotten pretty close.
What's to say that Clinton didn't call Jeb?
Urge Jeb on.
But look, as I say, you're not being a conspiracy theorist.
I mean, we know that there was a phone call.
Yeah.
We think they did.
Clinton's leaked that there was a phone call.
Well, if you ever interview Trump, ask him what exactly was, did he encourage you or he didn't?
You know, to me, it seems like a situation where there's no.
How do you think Trump would answer that?
I can tell you right now how he'd answer that.
Well, if he didn't make the phone call, he said the phone call never happened.
No, no.
Trump's people said it happened.
Oh, well, I don't know how he'd answer it.
Well, I can think of any number of ways that Trump would.
Now, here's a, let's see, what do I have here?
What's the, somebody tell me what the website is.
You guys print things out in there.
Oh, it's CNN's website.
Trump denies Bill Clinton talked him into running.
And let's see, this, Donald Trump said Friday that a phone call he had with former President Bill Clinton had no bearing on his decision to seek the White House, despite coming several weeks before he kicked off his bid.
My mind was already totally made up.
I was already running, essentially, Trump told Don Lemon Friday night, CNN.
He said, look, I'm Hillary's worst nightmare.
We didn't really discuss this.
We didn't discuss whether I was running or not.
And by the way, the Clinton people who leaked the call also said that they didn't talk about Trump's campaign or Trump running or anything.
But I know that doesn't erase your concern.
You're sitting out there.
It's a legitimate concern because Trump won't take the pledge.
Right?
Right, right.
Right.
Well, we'll see, Rush.
We'll see.
That's an in my answer.
It's a long campaign.
That's exactly right.
16 more months, and we'll see what happens.
So I appreciate it, Rush, and I appreciate your 28 years, which I've been here for.
Thank you very much.
Let me ask you one other question.
Not a trick question, and I just may sound silly.
What do you think has a better chance of happening?
Trump getting out of the race or Hillary not finishing the race?
Wow, that's a good question.
That's a really good question.
Because all this is predicated on Hillary's nominee, right?
And it may not be in stone yet.
I mean, you take a look here, and there's all kinds of forces mounting out there in opposition to her, and her polling data is plummeting.
It's fading.
The bloom's off the rose here.
There's nothing automatic about her nomination right now.
Well, don't you think it's still kind of a long shot for anyone, including Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden to?
Do you think it's a long shot?
Nope, nope, not because of 2008.
Okay.
I don't think it's a long shot at all that Mrs. Clinton's not the nominee.
I wouldn't say the odds are that she's not the nominee, but I don't think it's a long shot that she's not the nominee.
It's happened once.
She was on the way to being coordinated.
And by the way, in 2008, she was arguably more destined to get the nomination than she is this year.
And it didn't take much to split the Democrat Party down the middle.
And you look at these crowds that Bernie Sanders is drawing, and there is a common denominator in 2008 and 2000, well, 15, 16 here.
We're in 2015.
And the common denominator is whenever anybody in a Democrat primary other than Hillary Clinton gets into it, there is rabid enthusiasm for him.
There was rabid enthusiasm for Barack Hussein.
Oh, there is building rabid enthusiasm for Bernie Sanders.
And you've also got O'Malley out there lurking and Biden, possibly.
You just said it.
It's really, really early.
And frontrunners this early really have only one direction they can go.
I mean, when you're at the top, what happens?
Hillary spokeswoman, this is from August 6th in the Politico.
Hillary spokeswoman, Bill Clinton did not give Donald Trump advice.
This is my point.
Folks, if this happened, nobody's going to own up to it.
If Bill Clinton called and made a deal with Trump to run, and if he doesn't get the nomination, go third party and steer everything to Hillary.
Nobody's going to admit that.
But they do admit that the phone call happened.
So I understand your concern about this.
Like I say, just because you're paranoid does not mean they're not out to get you.
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Folks, Hillary might even be indicted before election time, for all we know.
Not that that would hurt her.
You know, it's very, very difficult for Democrats to run afoul of the law.
And even when they do, it doesn't seem to hurt them.
If people knew the truth about this woman, I mean, going all the way back to the bimbo eruption stuff in the Arkansas moving forward, how she enabled Clinton to behave with all of these women and destroy some of their lives.
She was the enabler.
She was the one that led the charge discrediting these women to this email stuff, the server, the fact that the CHICOMs have hacked so much of our government computer system, the Russian reset, Benghazi.
The fact that this woman has not been damaged by any of this, seriously, is a testament to the power of pop culture in this country.
And that's why, you know, all bets are off here.
Pop culture, let's face it, pop culture is part and parcel of Trump's staying power as well.
Although his, I think, is owing to much more than pop culture.
There's a, as I've discussed, there's a deep, deep, deep reservoir of unrequited anger on the part of, I think, at least half of the voting population of this country.
Liv it over the last seven years.
Anyway, here's Jerry Eugene, Oregon.
Great to have you on the program.
Jerry, hello.
Good morning, Rush.
You know, I've been hearing some of Trump's old interviews with him talking about how liberal he is, his gay rights, and abortion support.
It makes me think he'd make a really good conservative Democrat if he was to switch parties right now while he's on top, get his nose in the door before Hillary's indicted, who would stop him from getting the right nomination.
There's no such thing right now as a successful conservative Democrat.
Well, the Trump's breaking all the rules.
Yeah, but not in their party.
He's breaking the rules in the Republican.
He's not breaking the rules of the Democrat Party.
yeah but that's because he's not there well but even if he i okay this is a new one Look, I understand this.
Let's just put this out there, okay, because time here is dwindling.
And this is the second call in this half hour that has a central theme to it that the caller is not voicing.
I'm going to put it out there.
Trump is a fake.
Trump is a fraud.
He isn't who he says he is.
And one of these days, everybody's going to wake up and see it.
And what if this is true, Rush?
What if I'm right?
What if Trump is a fraud?
What if he really is a Democrat?
What if the Clintons really did make a deal with him?
What if he really is pro-choice?
What if he really is pro-gay marriage, pro-gay rights?
What if he is pulling the wool over everybody's eyes?
What do we do then, Rush?
That's what these two callers have said.
My answer is let it play out, folks.
It's early.
And the people who are going to finish at the top of this thing will finish at the top.
Substance will win out here.
I have confidence that it's early here.
And all of these what-ifs, no way of knowing.
But if they manifest as doubts, then your decision's made.
Trump's not your guy at this point.
I mean, it's simple as that.
Back in a second.
And that's it, folks, for today.
But there's always tomorrow.
And we will eagerly await it, eagerly be here.
Anticipate being here.
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