Can you imagine what the drive-bys are doing that?
Oh, man, oh, man, oh, man.
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I want to get back to Neil in Dallas.
Because I really, had I known what you were going to say, I would have delayed taking your call and given you a little bit more than two minutes trying to squeeze it in.
Now, you don't have to hurry.
And I want you to walk me through here what you believe.
You think Donald Sterling was set up.
You mentioned that anybody can be set up.
You said they've been trying to get me and they haven't for the longest time.
And I should be wary of being set up.
You remember Rutgers when you was talking about the Rutgers girls?
The Rutgers.
Well, one time, anyway, one time there was a controversy about you saying something and your sponsors were beginning to drop you, but you ran through them like they were barricades, you know.
And, you know, people, anytime you want to say something or say something, or somebody wants you off the air or wants you away from something or wants your team as they want Sterling's team, then we'll get somebody to infiltrate you.
Okay, Neil, who wants Sterling's team?
Who wants?
The ones that hollows Sales of Team.
That's the ones you look at.
He needs to give up the team.
Okay, but who wants?
I don't want to call no name, Rutgers.
Just listen.
Just pay attention.
They'll tell you who they are.
Because they're going to be the ones.
Yeah, but do you think you know who it is?
Rush?
That's why you don't want to say.
You know who you think's behind this setup.
Well, you know, let me know.
Neil, let me explain to the audience.
Some people just tuned in.
Let me explain what's going on.
Neil called right before the previous hour ended, and we didn't have enough time with him.
And his theory is based on the fact that Sterling's racist thoughts and comments are nothing new, that everybody's known them for a long time.
And Neil's theory is that somebody now decided they want the Clippers, and so Sterling was set up here as a means of getting rid of him.
And that's what we're talking about here.
And Neil, obviously he's got a name in mind, but he won't mention who.
You say just what.
So I guess if your theory holds, we should watch to see who gets the Clippers and then we'll know.
Yes, sir.
I mean, Rud, tell me what he said.
I'm listening to what he said that was actually worth all the harassment he's getting.
I want you to listen to Soundbite with me.
You know, you're in Dallas and Mark Cuban owns the Mavericks.
Yeah.
Now, Mark Cuban was, this was in the locker room at the American Airlines Center before game four, the Mavericks game against the Spurs.
And this just about 20 seconds of what he said, but this has created a little buzz out there.
There's no excuse for anybody to support racism.
There's no place for it in our league.
But, you know, it's a very, very, very slippery slope.
You know, if it's about racism and we're ready to kick people out of the league, okay.
Man, what about homophobia?
Right?
What about somebody who doesn't like a particular religion?
What about somebody who's anti-Semitic?
And he went on to say that he went on to say that Sterling didn't say or do anything.
In further, he hasn't run the team on his beliefs.
He said these things.
He may think these things, but Cuban went on to say that in the way he runs the team, he hasn't run the team as a racist donor.
He's paid everybody.
Everybody's gotten paid.
Everybody's living well.
The team is rallying right now.
And right, if free agents went there willingly, they're getting paid.
He's not taking no money out of anybody's pocket.
Right, so so Cubans' point is we got to be really careful.
Are we going to get rid of people and take away their property based on what they think?
You know what the problem is with America Rush?
What I think it is: what?
It's arrogance.
We're not the dumbest people in the world.
We're actually the smartest people in the world.
But it's our arrogance that's what's going to destroy us.
That's in politics and life in general.
No, you know what it is?
Neil, let me tell you what it is.
Let me give you this example of this guy in Great Britain who's listening to a politician quote Winston Churchill on Islam and calls the cops and arrest him.
Somebody needs to tell that guy to go to hell.
Somebody needs to stand up and say, shut the hell up, go to hell, get away from here.
There's no crime that's been committed.
Who the hell are you?
It's not arrogance, it's fear.
And people are scared to death to speak up.
It's liberalism destroying this country or socialism or whatever you want to call it.
But the left is destroying this country and people are scared to stand up and tell them to go to hell.
Yeah.
Well, I think in the governments it's arrogance.
Now, you're right about America.
Well, government, okay.
Arrogance, condescension, yeah, ruling class, all that.
You're right.
Hey, when I do something so stupid, when it goes over, I go, wow, man, I pat myself on the back.
They fail for that.
You remind me of the Hutch.
I just tell you, the truth is the truth and the lies of the husband.
I think the Hutch is living through you, Neil.
Right is right, and wrong is wrong.
And people need to stop all this racism stuff.
Get over it, man.
Live your life.
You're in America, man.
Well, you know, the little freedom that we sponsor.
That was Bernie Goldberg's point last night that we can't possibly be a racist country with this reaction to the guy.
There's nobody defending other than you.
Nobody defending it.
Well, I mean, I hope the team rallies.
I hope that, you know, the sponsors are dropping him.
That's terrible.
But that's not going to hurt him.
The man is a billionaire.
Yeah, that's true.
And if they take the team away from him, he'll have to sell it.
He'll become another billionaire once over.
Take the team away from him for what?
That's like taking the EIB from you.
You are the EIB.
Believe me, they're trying.
They can't, Rush.
You are the EIB.
That's why.
That's why you're trying to get it.
That hasn't stopped them.
It hasn't stopped them from trying.
They're going to continue trying as long as I'm behind this microphone.
Well, you can't stop trying for freedom either, can you?
Well, no, I'm not going to stop.
I'm going to run.
They're roadblocks.
I can't help it if they don't have a sense of humor.
I can't help it if they're wound up so tight.
I can't.
But somebody needs to tell these people to shut up and go to hell.
They don't get their way on every day.
They don't get to be little fascists and tell everybody what they have to think and how they have to conform and believe and behave and all this.
We need you to have some type of criteria to talk about so you can entertain us.
So don't knock it too hard, okay?
Let them be who they are because I listen to you every day.
I'm not going to stop this.
Now, I hear what he says.
He go easy on them because we don't want them getting you, right?
You want to be entertained here every day.
You want me to hang around.
You don't want me to make myself unnecessarily.
Interesting things to talk about.
And trust me, they're giving you plenty.
I don't have to worry about that.
They write my script every day.
Why hasn't somebody tried to take away Reverend Wright's church for the things that he said?
Because it doesn't fit their agenda.
Now you're trying to get me to talk about the problem.
Well, it's a rough question I don't need to talk about now.
It's a rhetorical question.
On the radio, Rush, there's a lot of things I don't want to talk about because I know a lot of people are listening.
That's where you're wrong.
You can talk about it.
You're a caller.
You can say anything.
You're anonymous.
You can say.
Neil, you can tell me who you think is setting Sterling up.
You can tell me who you think wants the Clippers because you're anonymous.
Nobody doing anything to you.
Well, I tell you what.
Give me an untraceable phone and then I'll tell you.
See the fear?
You see the fear that exists?
This guy, he's living out there.
He's anonymous.
We don't even know if Neil's your real name.
In fact, I'd be willing to tell people it isn't your real name.
And I'll be willing to tell people you're not even really in Dallas that you're calling from Arizona somewhere.
Rush, how hard would it be for me to contact you other than the EIB?
Okay.
Well, of course.
Mr. Snirdley has a question for you.
Does the person who wants the Clippers have a deep connection to basketball already?
If I told him that, I just answered everybody.
If I told him that, then he would know who I'm talking about.
Well, then the answer is yes.
I didn't say yes.
I know you didn't, but you did.
That's how it works.
Before you go, Neil, before you go, I have here a story about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
Oh, my goodness.
Now, now, this is fascinating here.
Okay.
It's from the Daily Caller.
NBA legend, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar attacked the collective outrage emanating from America's media over Donald Sterling's alleged racist remarks, calling the publication of a private conversation sleazy and wondering why earlier, more public manifestations of racism from this guy failed to similarly shock people.
His point is, and that's why I wanted to ask you about it.
Everybody's known about this guy, and this guy has said and done things over the years long before this.
Why was there no outrage?
And why all of a sudden is there now collective outrage when he says something in private?
Can I answer that?
Yeah.
It's because he paid his debt to society.
They got what they wanted from him.
Every time he did something foolish that they thought was foolish, he had to pay.
And now somebody wants that team.
It's a fascinating.
Okay, so they've gotten as much blood from the stone as they're going to get.
Now it's time to get his team.
Last time he gets the team, he's on his way towards the grave anyway, as far as we're concerned.
How old is he?
80-some-odd years old?
Well, you're just looking at the actuarial tables.
He's 80-year.
Okay, now where's his family at?
Does he have a family that children that's in the wheel or something?
Well, somebody should make.
It's interesting you bring up his family because in the early days of this, go back to Saturday, his wife was part of the crowd dumping on him.
She has done a 180 and is now defending him and saying that this is not who the guy is.
Right.
Somebody has to because he doesn't know how to do it.
Right now he's being led just like a horse to the trough.
And so he doesn't know which way to turn.
I mean, the man is 80-some-odd years old.
All of us are going to, at some point in time, have some form of dementia.
Well, I haven't had any yet.
You know, and so what he's doing is they're playing on his somewhat dementia that he has.
All right.
Well, this is a fascinating theory.
This is a fascinating theory.
And Neil, I'm glad that you held on to the break so that I could dig deep, explore further.
I really, you know, you get it.
I really appreciate that you're in the audience.
And I'm taking under close advisement your requests that I, you know, don't cross the line so I stay here to entertain you every day, not give them a chance, take me out.
I appreciate that.
I really do.
But you're on, this is fascinating.
So here, let me sum up Neil's theory.
Sterling's 81, dementia, actuarial tables.
He's going to die sooner than later.
The NAA LCP and all the charities have gotten as much money out of the guy as they're going to get.
They've let him dry.
He's had to pay for all of his past transgressions.
He's paid up.
He's donated here.
He's donated there to cover things up.
And now it's time to get his team.
And so they get this groupie to go in there and become his sugar baby.
And she got this tape recorder.
And her story is that he asked her to tape him because his memory is failing and he thinks he says brilliant things.
He wants to be able to remember them.
And in truth, the whole thing is a setup because this is a groupie.
This babe knows all kinds of athletes.
She hangs around with Dodgers players.
She's in a picture with Magic.
She's in a picture with Magic Johnson.
That's what ticked the guy off.
Don't forget.
That's what ticked him off.
She's in a picture with Magic.
And so now they bled the stone dry.
He's donated as much as they're going to get.
They want to get the team before he can bequeath it to his family.
And he's being set up.
That's Neil's theory.
And we'll wait to see what CNN does with this one.
Look at this.
Wait a minute.
Lookie here.
Look what I just found at Yahoo News.
Headline, exit strategy for NBA, Donald Sterling, sell Clippers to Magic Johnson.
YahooNews.com exits.
I haven't clicked on the link yet.
I just got this right as the break was ending.
So I have it in a chat.
Click on it, but there it is.
Exit strategy for NBA and Sterling is to sell the Clippers to Magic.
And that would make it all better.
That would make it all good.
And Sterling would be a hero again.
Well, I don't want to be a hero, but it would be okay.
Now, what if Kareem wants him, though?
And what if Kareem's group doesn't have the money that Magic's group got?
Didn't Magic try to buy the Dodgers?
And V. Stiviano's involved with Dodgers players.
Folks, there's an intricate web being woven here.
This babe, this sugar baby, is all over LA sports.
She was Sterling.
She's with Magic.
I saw a picture of her with Steve Kemp of the Dodgers.
Magic tries to buy the Dodgers.
Wait a minute.
Did Magic's group get the Dodgers?
Magic's group did get the Dodgers.
And the Dodgers apparently aren't enough.
Magic wants the Clippers.
Yahoo News.
Not me, CNN.
Yahoo News.
Guggenheim Partners.
Whose partners are Guggenheim Partners?
Magic's partner, Guggenheim Partners.
Not to be confused with the Getty Museum.
So, well, exit strategy for NBA.
Sterling sell clippers to Magic.
Damn it, I was going to make a move on him.
I guess I just got outflanked here.
I wasn't thinking fast enough.
Okay.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Here's from the Yahoo story.
For all these despicable revelations tumbling out of the hateful heart of Donald Sterling, their promises construction of a roadmap to redemption for the Clippers and the NBA.
There's a way out for the most hated man in Los Angeles now, a way out for the commissioner's office, and the owners responsible for long legitimizing and harboring a bigot and a slumlord in their league, Magic Johnson.
Magic Johnson and his billionaire backers, Guggenheim partners, want a chance to purchase the Clippers, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
Magic's absolutely interested, one source closely connected to Johnson's business interest told Yahoo Sports on Sunday night.
Well, hmm.
Interesting, isn't it not?
Magic Johnson and his billionaire backers, the Guggenheim partners, want a chance to purchase the Clippers.
And as a way out for the most hated man in LA, a way out for the commissioner's office, and the owners who are responsible for long legitimizing and harboring a bigot and a slumlord.
Does anybody, I say set up.
I wonder if anybody's going to seriously go there.
Or if they're just going to say, this is a great solution.
It's like sweetening the tea.
It is.
It is.
But I'm not saying that.
Neil told me, don't say things that give me a, you know, make me a big target.
Ladies and gentlemen, no serious note here, there apparently are some new documents about Benghazi that link, conclusively link the Obama White House to the change in talking points about Benghazi.
Now, this is something that the regime has long denied.
The regime, Obama and Hillary and Susan Rice, they have long denied that they were involved in the changing talking points.
They tried to dump that all off on the CIA, if you'll recall.
But apparently there are some new documents.
You know, when it rains, it pours.
I'm thinking back now to this Michael Goodwin piece that ran in the New York Post on Sunday that instinctively I discounted it because when I read somebody write that the media is turning on Obama, I haven't seen any evidence of it, so I set it aside.
But now it is abundantly clear.
What John Kerry did in private with Israel, this has got people, you can't imagine, this is just, it's stupid, it's crackpot, it's outrageous.
Obama is, the Soviet Union is being reconstituted.
There are a lot of people really, really, our foreign policy stupid, non-existent, and it may well be now That there's going to be some truthful document dumping.
We'll just have to wait and see.
Maybe premature to say that, but we'll keep a sharp eye.
Has one more line here from this Yahoo sports story that just says, and by the way, the wife doing a 180 and defending Sterling is proof of Neil's point that somebody's making a play on the Clippers because if Sterling is indeed passed, I mean, she would inherit it.
And she don't want to lose team, apparently.
She likes, so she's turning around.
She's defending her husband.
Whereas Saturday, she was in the cavalcade or cascade of criticism.
She's done a 180.
She's not defending him.
But this Yahoo Sports story, get this now.
Make no mistake, it says.
Magic's, oh, wait a minute.
Where is it?
It scrolled out.
Magic Johnson is the ultimate cleanser in sports.
And steering a Clippers sale to him could be transformative for the franchise.
Truth be told, it could change the balance of basketball power in LA forever.
Meaning, Lakers who?
So Yahoo Sports, all about magic, the ultimate cleanser in sports.
Racism will just, it's Obama all over it.
Racism will disappear.
It'll be a new sports empire in Southern California owned and controlled by magic and his billionaire partners, the Guggenheim partners.
And steering this to magic would be everybody's solution to the problem.
And right there it is in Yahoo Sports.
Now, the Benghazi thing.
Turns out it was not the drive-bys that uncovered this.
So my instincts still hold.
The drive-bys have not turned on Obama.
What this was, and it's devastating, by the way.
It's a Freedom of Information, FOIA, Freedom of Information Act request from Judicial Watch.
And here's from the Washington Free Beacon report on the Judicial Watch emails.
Benghazi emails show White House effort to protect Obama's staff attempted to insulate presidents' policies from criticism ahead of election.
It's everything that we knew.
It's everything we suspected about Benghazi.
And remember, we still don't know where Obama was for five to seven hours.
The president of the United States was off the grid at five o'clock in the middle of the attack.
The last he says is to Hillary and Panetta or whoever it was.
You guys handle it.
Take care of it.
He's gone.
So goes the story.
And now we've got these emails saying that the White House staff redid the talking points, massaged everything in order to protect Obama and insulate plausible deniability to make it appear running in the election.
Obama had no clue what was going on.
It was not his policy.
This or that.
He was not involved.
Whatever it took, the White House did.
That's the latest from this release from Benghazi.
And, yeah, it's too late for 2012, but it's not too late for November this year, folks.
Back to the phones we go.
Jory in RME, Utah.
I'm glad you waited.
I really appreciate your patience.
And welcome to the program.
Thank you very much for taking my call, Rash.
You bet.
So what is concerning me is the disrespect that's being shown to the players of the Clippers themselves.
I mean, I'm reading right now on Sports Center, the biggest stand that they can make is to boycott the game and not go.
And it seems very unfair.
Wait, wait, wait, hold it just a minute.
I want to make sure I heard.
You're telling me that you're reading the ESPN website on TV right now.
And the ESPN website says what?
The biggest stand that the fans can make is boycott the game and not show up.
So the biggest stand.
Hold up, hold on, hold up.
Damn it.
We can't.
This phone system, he can't hear me.
I need to ask you for clarification.
Are you saying the biggest sin or the biggest stand the fans can make?
The biggest stand.
Okay.
So ESPN's urging the fans to boycott the game?
Yes.
Okay.
And they're telling they had the whole Clippers team wore their jerseys inside out to not display the Clippers' name because the owner made these comments.
So they are bringing down the entire team because of one man's words.
During the playoffs.
Exactly.
They need to be stood behind by their fans and push forward and overcome what one idiotic person says.
You know, instead, they're being told not to go to the game.
The person who was supposed to sing the national anthem is no longer going to be singing the national anthem at this game.
So they are completely disrespecting the players themselves for all their hard work that they've done to get to the playoffs and not supporting them at all.
Let me tell you something.
This is really, whoever set this up is really good.
They covered every base.
Yes, they've got the media wrapped around their little finger.
I mean, when you get rid of the anthem singer, I used to be in charge of anthem singers at the Kansas City Royals.
When you can get rid of an anthem singer, you've got power.
Let me just tell you, when you get an anthem, because those people will go anywhere to sing the anthem on TV in front of a crowd, if you can get rid of them, you've got real power.
Yeah.
And it's very scary on how much pull that these people have and what they're able to do.
And going to your last caller, Neil, how they're being had this set up.
I mean, it can seem more and more clear, especially with reading about Magic Johnson's.
In the meantime, what everybody ought to be doing, everybody ought to be wearing their business suits inside out to protest John Kerry and what he said about Israel, which is coming up.
I'm going to get to that in the next hour, folks.
I can't do everything at once here.
That is coming up.
So, I mean, I've alluded to it.
Don't think I'm not going to get to it.
I am.
But I was confused because I thought you said at first that when you're reading ESPN's website that the biggest sin the fans could make would be to boycott.
And that would have been outrageous because ESPN's basically urging pain.
But when you said stand, it makes perfect sense.
Yeah.
And it's just crazy on how this one person can turn an entire city around and have them just go against their team all together.
When, in fact, they should be standing.
It's not like any of these players agree with the owner.
No one agrees with what he's saying.
So why are they being punished and left hanging out to dry because of the actions of one person?
Let's play the coach.
Jory, thanks for the call.
Grab somebody 14.
This is Doc Rivers.
Doc Rivers, the coach of the Clippers, was on a conference call with reporters yesterday talking about Sterling.
Yeah, I believe he said those things.
I heard what he said, you know.
And so until someone tells me differently, you know, you usually listen to what people say.
And, you know, I haven't given him his due process.
I haven't given him an opportunity to explain himself.
And quite honestly, right now, I don't want him to or want him to to me.
So I'll wait for that further judgment.
You know, I was asked, do I need to talk with Donald?
And I passed, quite honestly.
I don't think right now is the time or the place for me at least.
And so I just took a pass.
That's Doc Rivers, the coach of the Clippers.
It is.
I mean, the Clippers haven't been to playoffs in a, I don't know how long.
Legitimate chance.
I mean, everybody in the NBA makes the playoffs.
Well, except the Clippers didn't.
But now they have.
I just, this whole thing, it's now, it's coming together so clearly.
When you got Yahoo Sports, the Magic Johnson's biggest cleanser in sports, and they're out here for the NBA and the owners is for Magic to get the team.
And of course, Mrs. Sterling is going to have something to say about that because I don't think she wants to get rid of it.
And this V. Stiviano, this V Dot babe in there, this is he won't give the team to her.
I guarantee she's his wife.
Sterling give the team to her?
Or what if they make up?
What if Sterling makes up with her?
Well, if Sterling were to give her the team, how do we know that Sterling hasn't seen the setup from day one?
Maybe he gives the team to V. Stiviano and she gives it to Magic.
None of this is going to happen.
I mean, they're not going to make up.
The wife is in there.
This V Dot, she's.
It's all clear to me what's going on here.
And I think it's going to become more and more clear.
Now, on TV, it's fascinating.
They're still treating this as though Jim Crow has come back to life.
They're still, they are two days behind what's really going on.
They've still got their endless parade of guests trying to be the biggest, best articulator of outrage and of being offended and America sucks and all of this stuff.
It's just, it's amazing to watch all this stuff go by at the same time.
I've got to take another brief time out.
We'll do that and be right back.
Don't go away.
Okay, folks, just sitting here with idle thoughts, ruminating through my inveterately large cranial cavity.
What if, based on everything we've learned, Yahoo Sports, Magic, Guggenheim Partner, what if the reason Sterling told VDOT that he didn't want her showing up in pictures with Magic is that he knew that Magic was going to make a play for his team.
What if he knew that?
I'm giving some gifts here to Aaron Burnett and Don Lemon, Mr. Black Hole at CNN.
And then what if, I'm just saying, nobody really knows anything.
Everybody's just proceeding here on assumptions.
What if Sterling didn't want her talking to Magic because he knew that Magic was making a play for his team?
And now what's going on is that Magic and the Guggenheim partners are doing what they're doing to get the price down.
Well, everything else seems to be up for grabs in this.
Everybody else has got their ideas.
The Reverend Jackson has his.
Sheila Jackson Lee has hers.
Spike Lee has his ideas.
Sheila Jackson, oh, we got it all coming up.
Oh, yeah.
Sheila Jackson Lee weighed in on this.
Absolutely.
Let's go to David in Memphis.
You're next on the program.
Great to have you, sir.
Hello.
Hey, Darrell Rush.
I got a group that has gone pretty much untouched through all this that's involved is NAACP.
And in my opinion, they provided cover for Sterling over the years by giving him various awards.
They're about to give him another award.
That's been discussed.
So when they've given him these awards over the years, and everybody says they've known he's been racist all these years, it made it difficult for a guy like Elgin Baylor and other people who have brought lawsuits against him and other complaints to get any respect or get any voice because how do you do that when you've got the NAACP giving the guy away?
Well, this is a fascinating point, too.
He taught us how to think over the years, Rush.
That's just what I.
Well, I appreciate your crediting me with your thought on this.
The CNN will appreciate that.
But it's actually a good point.
So here you have the NAA LCP chapter in L.A. They've given Sterling a couple awards.
They're going to give him a third award.
Meanwhile, here's Elgin Baylor, who's trying to sue Sterling over the years in a housing dispute.
How can a black guy successfully sue Sterling when the local NAA LCP chapter is giving him award after award after award?
I mean, that is a excellent point.
It's something to throw into the mix here.
Oh, it reminds me.
I was watching during a show prep period at CNN, and there were two black guys, and they were livid at the NAA LCP chapter of L.A. One of them was Mark Lamont Hill, and I forget who the other one was.
I'm not going to know who he was, but they were just trashing this L.A. chapter.
They were saying things like, this is not just some podunk chapter.
This is the second largest city in the country chapter.
And what are they doing giving this guy awards?
And who the hell do you think they are taking the money from this guy?
And we're really ripping this chapter.
Mark Lamont Hill, really ripping this chapter of the local NAA LCP.
And old David here has got a point.
I mean, if the local NAA LCP chapter is giving you awards left and right, who can possibly sue you for racial discrimination?
All you got to do is, well, we'll look at a local chapter of NAALCP says, I'm a great guy.
Man.
Do you people realize what a ride we're all being taken for on this story?
Is it becoming clear now how the media works, how this soap opera script gets written every day?
And the real story is way, way down beneath the surface and only becomes known after everything that was intended to happen happens.
What is being exposed?
Well, well, I know there's a lot of, I mean, you're talking about the deleterious culture of LA, Southern California being exposed and those whole things.
But nobody's paying any attention to that.
Nobody's noticing that.
They're too caught up in the Jim Crow.
In fact, they're losing Jim Crow in this thing, and they're going to have to work real hard to bring Jim Crow back because they're losing that angle.
So what we're talking about here, we're not supposed to be talking about this until next week, folks, once it's all settled.