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Oct. 23, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 23, 2013, Wednesday, Hour #2
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And greetings, welcome back, folks.
It's great to have you here, Rush Limboy and the Excellence in Broadcasting Network, once again coming to you live from the Limbaugh Institute for advanced conservative studies.
The telephone number, 800-282-2882, the email address, LRushbo at EIBNet.com.
And we are happy to once again welcome back to the program the Vice President of the United States, former Vice President, Mr. Dick Cheney.
Mr. Cheney, welcome back.
How are you, Rush?
I'm great.
How are you doing?
I'm doing, couldn't be doing better.
It's really, I think it's, what, 18 months ago now I got my new heart, heart transplant, and it's just been phenomenal ever since.
It's nothing short of a miracle.
And you've written a book about all this.
Why?
Well, what happened was this was before I finally had the transplant.
I was living on a pump then, an artificial pump.
But got a call one day from the Cleveland Clinic, you know, one of the world's foremost heart institutes, said they were having a big conference on innovation in cardiology.
They had the suppliers come and they had the docs come and decided that they ought to have a patient.
And then they figured out I'd had everything done to a heart that you could do to a heart patient, except transplant at that point.
And so they called me and sent their plane for me, and I was happy to go participate.
But it occurred to my doctor and I that if the Cleveland Clinic was interested in my case as being sort of illustrative of all of the developments that have, in effect, reduced the incidence of death from heart disease by about 60% over the last 40 years, there's a story there to be told.
I get a lot of calls from people who are going through similar problems to what I had, or they've got a relative or a spouse, and it just wanted to be helpful.
And my case literally illustrates all of those things that saved my life from stents and implantable defibrillators and left ventricular assist device and heart transplant and bypass surgery and so forth.
And we wanted to do the book, frankly, because there are 80 million people out there that have some form of a heart problem in the United States.
And this will answer a lot of their questions and I think also convey a sense of hope about what's possible.
Well, you sound really good.
You sound filled with energy and you sound optimistic about things.
Are you rested from your time in office?
And in a different way, somewhat stress-free now?
Well, I love the jobs I had, but I'm not sure the stress has gone away.
All I have to do is turn on the television and watch the news.
I'm very worried about the country.
I know you are too, because I listened to your program.
But it is, from a physical, personal standpoint, I feel great.
From the standpoint of the fate of the Republic, I'm very worried.
Well, before we get into that, I want to go back to what you just said about the advances available to you.
I've had a similar medical problem with my hearing.
I lost my hearing, and I literally lost it, 100%.
And I was thinking when it happened, if I had lost my hearing 20 years earlier, it would have meant the end of my career.
I was really lucky that my time on Earth happened to coincide with the level of medical and technological advancement that hearing loss could be recovered with something called a cochlear implant.
If, again, that's how you look at my time on Earth, everybody's time on Earth is a speck of sand compared to the age of the Earth.
Yours, mine.
I looked at myself as profoundly fortunate.
And you must think the same way.
You're born with your heart problem, but you happen to be alive at a time when these kinds of advances are taking place in the country of your birth, and they're able to give you a normal life and add years to your life.
Now, in context of that, am I right about the absolutely right, Rush?
When I had my first heart attack, I was 37 years old.
It was 1978, and virtually none of the treatments and devices and medications that saved my life had even been invented yet.
And now, when I look back on that experience, my doc has a way of describing it.
He said, Dick, he said, it's like you're getting ready to go to work in the morning, but you're late.
You jump in your car, you head out, and every single stoplight's red.
But he said, when you got to them, every one of them turned green.
And that's exactly what happened.
Each of those, each time I needed some new capability to deal with my latest problem, it was there.
And it was there because of the innovation and creativity of the American health care system.
And it was a blessing.
It was dumb luck to some extent.
But some of the procedures I went through were difficult.
But my dad had exactly the same thing I did.
And, of course, never had the benefit of all of those things that kept me alive.
Now, people are going to accuse me of taking advantage of your appearance here today to go political on this.
And I reject that because I'm simply reacting to what's happening before my very eyes in light of these medical advances made available to you.
You look at, especially from your former perch, you look at what is happening to the U.S. health care system.
What do you think?
I think the Obamacare, if I can use that word on your show, I think I've heard it there a time or two.
Feel free, yeah.
It's devastating.
There's a big piece in the Wall Street Journal I just read this morning, written by a pediatric cardiologist, talking about what's happening in terms of the way the health profession is being shaped and changed because of what's being done to the Spectro Obamacare in terms of reducing the extent to which physicians can be reimbursed for the expense they bear in treating their cases and their patients.
It's having a devastating impact from that perspective.
The device tax, you know, I've got a good friend who was involved in the development of the stent.
That's one of the techniques that saved my life.
George W. Bush just had a stent.
It's saved hundreds of thousands of lives over the years.
His case was more serious than was originally believed, too.
Apparently, I talked to him just after he had the procedure.
But it basically, you know, 30 years ago, stents didn't exist.
Two docs came up with an idea, didn't have any money, went to a friend of mine, a guy named Phil Romano, who owned Fud Ruckers and Macaroni Grill and so forth, and he put up $250,000.
They got the patent.
They sold it to Johnson and Johnson.
And now stents are widely available across the country.
And even Phil now has stents.
But it literally added for millions of Americans the ability to deal with an impending heart attack without ever having to go through that process.
It's a life-saving device because of the private free enterprise system in this country.
And now Barack Obama wants to tax those kinds of devices from day one.
And the more you tax it, the less creativity you're going to have in that regard.
Well, that's all true.
But I just blanch at the deceit that has been part of this.
I mean, everything they've promised people has turned out to not be true.
Their premiums aren't cheaper.
The health care is not going to be better.
It isn't going to be more plentiful.
Everything.
The insurance companies have been depleted.
And all this is happening at the behest of people who no experience whatsoever in this field.
They're lifelong academicians, theoreticians.
They've never worked in this field or anything else in the private sector.
And yet they have this arrogant presumption that they know better.
And it's scary to me what's happening because it is the best health care system in the world.
I mean, you mentioned the Cleveland Clinic.
I read that they are going to have to start laying off doctors and nurses because of this.
Right.
That's exactly what's happening.
I've heard the same about the Cleveland Clinic.
It's one of the foremost heart institutes, not just in the U.S., but in the world.
And when you put that much strain on the system, as they're doing, and as you say, by people who don't appear to be able to find their fanny with both hands, they don't know anything about the health care industry.
And he basically is trying to take over 16, 17% of our economy, which is what the health care system in this country constitutes.
And they appear to be without a clue in terms of what they're doing, the damage they're inflicting.
They can't even set up the computer system so you can get onto the so-called health care system.
So I think it's a travesty, Rush.
I think it's one of the worst things I've ever seen in the domestic policy arena.
And I hope we get it shut down before we're unable to correct it.
What did you make of the latest efforts by various wings, if I could say, the Republican Party to try to defund it or delay it or slow it down?
You're watching from afar, and yet you've been close.
What did you think of the effort?
Well, I'm sure I'm sympathetic in terms of their desire to want to try to shut it down.
I didn't feel like they had a strategy that would work and didn't.
Unfortunately, we got into a situation where we didn't achieve the desired result.
I'm a great one, for example, in believing we shouldn't extend the debt ceiling unless we get certain reductions in spending.
I think it's important to link those kinds of connections together.
It's not clear to me that we achieved much with the strategy that was followed.
Now we seem to have Republicans fighting against Republicans when the real enemies is Barack Obama, and he's standing back from the fray watching us duke it out.
You have a few more minutes.
I have to take a break, but we can go to the bottom of heaven.
And there's no wrong answer.
If you have to go, that's fine.
No, I'll be happy to talk.
Cool.
Vice President Cheney is with us, and we will be back in mere moments.
Don't go away.
We are back for our remaining moments with Vice President Dick Cheney, eight or nine minutes here.
And, Mr. Vice President, I mentioned in the first hour of the program, the audience, one of the things I wanted to ask you about was that you feared with your pacemaker some kind of terrorist sabotage via the internet because the pacemaker was vulnerable to that.
And I remember the TV show Homeland, that is how the Vice President show was actually killed in that way.
Now, I'm sure your concern predated that episode, but what gave you that, or who put that possibility into your mind?
Well, we had a Pacemaker Plus, in effect.
My doctors were afraid that I might go into sudden cardiac arrest.
And the way you save that, come back from it, is with the paddles.
This is a built-in set of paddles.
It goes into it like a pacemaker wired into your heart.
And after the one I'd worn for about five or six years needed replaced, the new one that came in was capable of being controlled remotely.
That is, you could affect it and adjust the settings on it from a wireless capability.
And they were worried that if I was on a rope line someplace, somebody could get close enough to be able to, in fact, set off a heart attack with the right pulse, if you will, at my implantable defibrillator.
So we had them disconnect that feature while I was wearing it.
Some years later, we actually saw that scenario played out on Homeland.
How realistic was that?
I mean, was that just a precaution or was it something they really thought somebody could do if they studied that?
Well, it was technically feasible.
Somebody demonstrated that it could, in fact, be done.
And so we had to guard against it.
But I wanted to come back, if I could rush, to the point you mentioned just before the break in terms of the most recent battles over budget and so forth.
Sure.
I really feel very important.
I'm from Wyoming, obviously, and daughter Liz is running for the Senate out there this year.
But one of the things we've got to be able to do is to build bridges between and establish working relationships, I think, with all factions in the party.
There's a tendency right now for people to want to condemn the establishment or condemn the Tea Party.
And I think in Wyoming anyway, we're working hard to try to keep everybody pulled together and headed in the same direction on a basic fundamental set of conservative principles that we all believe in and taking on Barack Obama, who is in fact the adversary.
Well, what is it about the Tea Party you think that bothers some members of what is the so-called establishment?
Well, I think there are people in what I would call the establishment who are comfortable with status quo.
And what the Tea Party represents, at least in our state, very much are people who, frankly, have just gotten totally fed up with the existing operations in Washington.
They feel the Constitution is threatened.
They feel that their individual liberty is under threat.
And Barack Obama is at the base of all of those concerns.
But they're also looking for politicians who will stand up and fight for what they believe in.
And so I've got a lot of friends in the Tea Party movement.
It's not a I don't think it is a divisive force.
In my book, it's the kind of I'd much rather see them inside the party than outside the party.
And I think it's important that we go forward in terms of building those kinds of relationships and get off this kick that everybody's trying to blame the other guy for the problems that occurred in the aftermath of the next fight.
And we need to try to be united to do that.
And of course, united against the Democrats and Obama, there's just sadly little pushback.
The Republican Party is seen as timid in pushing back against Obama.
And I think that's correct.
They, in fact, are in many respects.
Yeah, there are probably a couple of reasons why the race is a factor.
And there's also the perception that the media loves him and that no matter what you say about him, the media is going to crucify you.
And I think that there's a misconception also in the Republican Party that the majority of the American people love and adore Obama.
I think that it's an image that's out there that survives in the 2008 election.
But political parties, they have to identify as something.
And if they don't push back against status quo when they agree with it, why do they exist?
Right.
No, it is very important to push back.
And I think the future of the party at this stage and the conservative cause is that we need a new generation involved there, too.
Part of it is to re-energize the party and the organization and find new candidates and people who are ready to take on those aspects of the establishment, if you will, certainly the Obama operation, if we're going to win this fight.
And we've got to do it.
We sit around for another three and a half years.
We're going to be in a very, very deep hole in this country because of the policies of the Obama administration.
Obamacare is one of the most problems.
I mentioned, or you mentioned your daughter, Liz, and I was going to ask you about that.
You are excited as a parent.
Now, you excited about her getting into this?
I absolutely am.
It's great, frankly, to have somebody who watched me go through 40 years in the business and be willing to step up.
And with all of her professional qualifications, she's also the mother of five of my grandchildren, and she wants to, and has jumped into the arena and gotten into the fight.
And I couldn't be prouder of her.
I'm delighted that she's willing to do that.
And a lot of good people out there across Wyoming have signed on, and she's going flat out.
She doesn't hold back.
She doesn't.
We appreciate it, too, Rush.
You said some very nice things about her.
And as a father, but also as a conservative, Republican, we appreciated that.
Let me tell you, I've had occasion to speak with her a couple of times, and she actually called me out for pulling up short on a couple of things that she thought I should have kept going, and which I loved.
I think she's really committed.
There's no question.
Now, your book, I want to get the title of the book out.
It's called Heart, an American Medical Odyssey.
You've had five heart attacks.
Right.
And yet you're as, I'm asking you, you've got about a minute and a half here.
You're as active as you want to be now at this point.
The only thing I can't do, Rush, is I can't ski, but that's not because of my heart.
That's because I got bad knees.
But it's nothing short of a miracle.
Three years ago in July, I was in end-stage heart failure.
My liver and kidneys were shutting down.
Blood ejection fraction was down to 10%.
And they brought me back, put in a pump, a temporary pump.
They ran on batteries, bought me 20 months.
That got me to the transplant, and the transplant's nothing short of a miracle.
And I owe a deep debt to the donor, to the surgeons, to people all across the country who asked for my help and their prayers.
And I'm a very, very lucky man.
Well, you're also missed, if I can say that I know I speak for millions in this audience.
You are profoundly appreciated, and you took all the arrows, as pioneers do.
You took hit after hit, and you remained who you are, and you remained focused.
And there's such an immense amount of respect and love for you out there.
And your perseverance here and your devotion to service, you and Rumsfeld both, I mean, you've given your lives to your country.
You've taken all kinds of slings and arrows for it.
And I just want you to know that I am at the top of the list among people who have a great sense of appreciation for what you've done.
Well, thanks a lot, Rush.
That means the world coming from you.
Well, I'm flattered, but you really, it's an honor to have been able to know you and get to know your family and your friends.
And we wish you the best, Mr. Vice President.
Keep on.
All right, Rush.
Good luck.
Vice President Cheney, who is going hunting this weekend in the wilds of Wyoming with live ammo.
He's actually going to take a real gun and actually go real hunting.
I thought you leftists would like to hear that.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to get to the phones here in just a few short notes because people have been on hold for an hour and a half now.
And I want to get to the phones.
There was an action yesterday by a federal judge that is a little confusing.
The case is going to take some dissecting here.
But the headline of the story in the UK Daily Mail talking about it is bombshell federal judge suddenly greenlights lawsuit that could stop Obamacare in its tracks.
Now, I don't want to get everybody's hopes up, but it could be a little sliver of hope.
And it revolves around the 36 states who said no to Obamacare and subsidies.
They should not be getting subsidies, but the IRS is granting them subsidies.
That is not the law.
Now, the judge refused essentially summary judgment, but he allowed the lawsuit to continue.
The judge isn't going to decide this until February, which may make it moot by then.
The longer this thing goes, the deeper the tentacles get spread into the fabric.
But just an example, a pool quote from the story, the lawsuit claims the Obama regime illegally enforced the Affordable Care Act, suddenly making millions of taxpayers and small employers subject to paying fines if they don't play ball.
The states that didn't sign on to the exchanges do not qualify for subsidies, yet the government is forcing them to take them.
And that's what the lawsuit revolves around.
It's a little bit more complicated and intricate than that.
But it's essentially that Obamacare forbids the federal government from enforcing the law in any state that opted out of setting up its own health care exchange.
This is a contention being made by a group of small businesses who filed a lawsuit, and they got a hearing Monday in federal court, and they were not thrown out.
So it's that their point is there are still people coming at this thing in a variety of ways to try to find some way to create, if delay, continue to keep it bollocksed up.
The website itself may do that.
I mean, Kathleen Sebillius says, well, we've got a problem.
They don't have a product.
They don't have a product.
They don't have anything to sell.
Their website's the product, but they've got nothing to sell.
People trying to sign up, it's an absolute disaster.
And they said they've got three to four weeks to fix this, and it's not fixable by them.
And it's, I don't know, we'll just have to see how it plays out.
In the meantime, let's go back to the phones and let's get to the phones.
We haven't gone there yet, except for Vice President Cheney.
We'll start in Oregon with Joanne.
I'm glad that you waited.
Great to have you here.
Hi.
Thank you so much, Rush.
I'm just calling to give you an idea of what the Obamacare is doing to the pharmaceutical industry.
I'm a pharmacy technician.
One of the things.
What does a pharmacy technician do?
Pharmacy technicians will take your prescription in, we'll type it up, we count your pills, the pharmacist will check it, we'll ring you up, we run your insurance if you have any, we find you discount cards if you don't.
So you're the interface.
Yeah, yeah, that's what we do, and we work really hard.
But why are you doing it?
Because everybody wants it right now.
Absolutely.
Yeah, they all want it right away.
50 people in line want it right now.
Yes, yes.
And you can't do it all.
But one of the things that's been happening to the pharmaceutical industry is our hours are being squeezed.
It's not saying that they're being cut.
It's just that we're having to work harder.
There's less of us in there.
Because the rate of reimbursement for most government plans, and there's getting to me, I'm seeing more and more government plans coming in.
The rate of reimbursement for government plans is being cut.
So a lot of the medications that we sell, you'll pay your copay, you'll walk away.
We will be taking anywhere from a $75 to sometimes even a $300 loss on what you walked out the door with.
And they're reaching the stage where they can't afford employees anymore.
They're having to make decisions of trying to sell more stuff out in the store, cutting hours of people out in the store, cutting our hours back, working their pharmacists.
Your average pharmacist in a chain will work 12-hour days, no lunches, no breaks.
They're on their feet.
This doesn't make sense.
How do people expect the doctors to not get paid, the pharmacies to not get paid, the patients to not have to pay?
How does this work?
It's not going to.
And that's the deal.
It is shutting down now.
I'm watching it.
I worked for a company, worked for them for quite a while.
It reached the stage where I physically couldn't keep up with the job anymore.
You'd go in, and you would have sweat dripping off your face all day, all nine hours.
Someone was in your face all the time.
You couldn't cope.
So I took a job with a pharmacy that had a little bit better working conditions, and I'm watching the same story play over again there.
I'm watching their managers make the same decisions that this other place did and slowly start to squeeze us into the same situation that I was before.
Well, now, wait.
So you're faced once again with longer hours?
Yeah, you'll go in, you'll work less days, you'll work longer hours.
Because the pharmacy is not being recompensated enough to make up their costs?
Yes, exactly.
They're not being recombensated.
Let's say...
So they're taking it out on you, the employee, by cutting your hours.
Yes, because they've got no other place to go.
I mean, they've got to pay their drug bills.
They have to pay their licensing bills.
They have to pay their pharmacists.
But when you're being squeezed, I mean, you've got to make a profit somewhere.
And later.
Or they can run cocaine out the back door.
Yes, right.
But probably not.
Let's hope not.
But so it's just being squeezed.
But it's reaching the stage where it's not going to be viable in another two or three years if they don't, if something doesn't happen.
There are probably going to be some concessions made, I suppose, or things that we have to do.
Joanne, did you happen to see the President's Rose Garden Add-A-Boy ceremony on Monday?
I heard parts of it.
Well, there was.
There was one of the props, people, one of the props behind Obama was supposedly somebody worked at a CVS pharmacy, and she kept going on and on and on and on about how great Obamacare is.
Well, I'm sorry she lies.
There are many different things.
There's so much lying and so much deceit going on in this.
And the bottom line is the White House is now going to decide how much prescriptions are going to cost.
They're going to be deciding how much money you make, the doctors make.
That's what this is going to mean.
They're going to be in charge of every aspect of this.
Yeah, and it's going to crash.
It's going to crash.
Unless you institute slavery, I suppose.
It's going to crash.
You cannot enslave people.
And in some of the pharmacies I've worked in, it was close to that.
I mean, can you imagine going in, having a Pharm D degree?
You're a doctor of pharmacy.
You walk through the door at 9 o'clock in the morning or 8.30 to get your paid for work done.
Look, you don't understand.
You're just going to have to be patient.
If you hang in there long enough, Joanne, you're going to be working for the government, which means you'll be able to shut down and get turkey on Thanksgiving during shutdowns and get furloughed and back pay.
If you can hang in longer, the government's going to be running all of it.
You're going to be a government employee there behind the counter.
I sort of choke.
Look, I understand.
I hear these horror stories.
It's hard to keep up with them.
Some of it, I know to a lot of people, this doesn't make any sense.
And the only way it does is because they're living it too.
On one side of it.
But it does boil down to as exactly as I ask.
How is a system going to work when the doctor doesn't get paid, when the pharmacy doesn't get paid, and the patient doesn't think he or she has to pay?
How does that work?
And the answer is it can't.
I appreciate the call, Joanne.
We've got to take a break, folks.
Sit tight.
We're coming right back.
Greetings, my friends.
Welcome back.
Rush Limbaugh, as always, having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have this is Siri in Freeport, Illinois.
Hi, Siri.
Welcome to the program.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi.
I just wanted to talk to you about the small business thing you were talking about earlier.
Yeah, well, the small business thing we were talking about.
Oh, that small business thing.
Yeah, the small business thing.
Yeah, yeah.
I was thinking that maybe we shouldn't invest in small business because eventually small businesses will go into bigger businesses and then, you know, there'll be big new businesses.
And you said that big businesses aren't good, but I think that it doesn't really matter because business is business.
And we should not invest in small business because if we do, small business will eventually become big business.
Right?
Yes.
And big businesses aren't good.
Well, isn't that what you said?
No.
Oh.
Well, never.
We should invest in both, I guess.
Oh, you want to invest in small and large businesses.
Yeah.
Oh.
Well, I'm curious what you think you heard when you heard me say that I wasn't in favor of big business.
Well, people always talk about how big businesses aren't good for everyone because of the CEOs always getting Their bonuses and everything, and they're rich, and you know, they don't like them because they're always getting so much money.
No, that's not that.
You must have been listening to something else, Siri.
Oh, because that's not something I believe.
I wouldn't have ever said that.
Oh.
I'm sorry to let you down.
You know what I thought?
I thought you were going to tell me that small business was bad because it became big business and big business was bad, and therefore we shouldn't have any business.
Well, we have to make money somehow.
Yes, we do.
That is a positive note.
We do have to make money somehow.
The CEOs have to get paid, and they have to have their bonuses, and that comes from profits and productive workers and so forth, employees, and so forth.
So, you must have mistakenly thought that it was me, but it wasn't me, because I assure you that I was not being critic, even today, but even have I said something that would have been facetious or making a satirical point.
Maybe it was Mark Levin.
I don't know.
Well, Levin, he's a well-known hater of big business, yeah.
So, that might have been who you heard, come to think of it.
Yeah, my stuff that always listens to you and Mark Levin, so I just get them confused sometimes.
Yeah, yeah.
I've talked to Levin about it, but you know, he's working on it.
He's working on it.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to get you.
No, that's okay.
That's a weird, I'm glad you called here.
It's good to have clarity and to have your mistaken impressions set right.
Yeah.
So, anyway, I just have you tried to sign up yet at an Obamacare exchange.
No.
You have not gone to healthcare.gov?
No.
Why not?
Because I don't like it.
Do you have health insurance?
Yeah.
You do?
Yeah.
Well, the answer's not for long.
You're cute, Siri.
You're cute.
I just...
I just was in the process when I took your call.
I was just printing out a story.
John Boehner, the speaker of the House, has predicted based on what he's learned, and this is just from my memory.
I'm going to have to print it out and read it during the break.
But what he thinks is more people are losing insurance when they go to healthcare.gov than are getting it.
That's how screwed up it is.
More people are being priced out or finding out they don't qualify for subsidies so they can afford it.
So more people end up without having insurance than have it after they go to healthcare.gov.
Now, I've got to dig and read further on that, see if that's true.
But, Siri, thanks for the call.
You live in Freeport, Illinois, and I'm glad you're there.
Thanks for the call.
I'm glad you have a chance to have it straightened out and learn the truth here about the fact that it's not me.
It hates big business.
I'm one of the biggest proponents of business, period, but small business especially, because that's where 75% in a normal non-Obama economy, that's where 75% of job creation and jobs anyway are.
The Boehner story, here it is, how it starts.
How Speaker John Boehner predicted today that by the end of the month, more Americans will have lost their insurance by being kicked off existing health plans than the number who were able to sign up at the flawed healthcare.gov website.
And I'm sure this is because people are finding, they asked Sebelius, and I've got still got three of the most amazing sound bites in that absolute train wreck that was their interview last night.
And they asked her if she signed up for Obama.
Oh, no, oh, no, no, no, no.
I haven't tried something.
I have insurance.
And the interviewer, Sanjay Gupta, said, you have insurance.
Well, did you find it challenging?
Because she did check it out.
She runs the thing.
And he asked her if she found it challenging.
Well, I think there certainly are some challenges.
It could be smoother.
It could be easier to access.
And that's really what we're working on with the IT team at 150% and so forth.
But she has insurance.
Yeah, but for how long?
That's the key for everybody.
Okay, folks, hang in there, be tough.
We got one big, exciting, busy broadcast hour yet to go.
And I am, I basically told you the seconds.
Two more Sebelius sound bites.
And there's some other gems in this roster today that we'll get to.
And lots of other stuff in the stacks, too.
I mean, it's literally overwhelming how much we've got.
So sit tight, hang in there and be tough.
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