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Oct. 23, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 23, 2013, Wednesday, Hour #2
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And greetings, welcome back, folks.
It's great to have you here, Rush Limboy in the Excellence in Broadcasting Network, once again coming to you live from the Limbaugh Institute.
For advanced conservative studies, the telephone number 800 28288 to the email address, L Rushbow at EIB net.com.
And we are happy to once again welcome back to the program, the Vice President of the United States, former Vice President, Mr. Dick Cheney.
How are you, Rush?
I'm great.
How are you doing?
I'm doing couldn't be doing better.
It's really uh what, eighteen months ago now I got my new heart, heart transplant, and uh it's just been phenomenal ever since.
It's nothing short of a miracle.
And you've written a book uh uh about all this.
Why?
Well, uh what happened was this was before I finally had the transplant, I was living on a pump then, an artificial pump.
But got a call one day from the Cleveland Clinic, you know, one of the world's foremost heart institutes, said they were having a big conference on innovation in cardiology.
They had the suppliers come and they had the docs come and decided that they ought to have a patient.
And then they figured out I'd had everything done to a heart that you could do to a heart patient, except transplant at that point, and so they called me and sent their plane for me, and I was happy to go participate.
But it occurred to my doctor and I that if the Cleveland Clinic was interested in my case as being sort of illustrative of all of the developments that have in effect or reduced the incidence of death from heart disease by about sixty percent over the last forty years.
And there's a story there to be told.
I get a lot of calls from from people who were going through similar problems to what I had, or they've got a a relative or a spouse, and uh it just wanted to be helpful, and and my case is literally illustrates all of those things that uh that saved my life from stents and implantable defibrillators and uh left ventricular assist device and heart transplant and bypass surgery and so forth,
and and uh we wanted to do the book, frankly, because there are eighty million people out there that have some form of a heart problem in the United States, and uh this will ask answer a lot of their questions, and I think also convey a sense of hope about what's possible.
Well, you sound really good.
You sound uh uh filled with energy and and you sound optimistic about things.
Um are you are you rested from your time uh in office and uh you uh l uh in in a in a different way, somewhat stress-free now?
Well, it's uh I o I love the jobs I had, and uh but uh I'm not sure the stress has gone away.
All I have to do is turn on the television or watch the news.
I mean I'm very worried about the country.
I know you are too, because I listened to your program, but it is uh from a p physical personal standpoint, I feel great.
From the standpoint of the fate of the Republic, I'm very worried.
Well, but before we get into that, I I want to go back to what you just said about the advances available to you.
You know, I've I've had a similar uh medical problem with my hearing.
I lost lost my hearing, and I I mean literally lost it, 100%.
And I was thinking when it when it happened, if I had lost my hearing twenty years earlier, it would have meant the end of my career.
I was really lucky that my time on earth happened to coincide with the level of medical and technological advancement that hearing loss could be recovered with something called a cochlear implant.
If if again that's how you look at the my time on earth, everybody's time on earth is a speck of sand compared to the age of the earth.
Yours, mine.
I'm I I looked at myself as profoundly fortunate, and I'm thinking you must think the same way.
You're born with your heart problem, but you happen to be alive at a time when these kinds of advances are taking place in the country of your birth, and they're able to give you a normal life and add years to your life.
Now, in context of am I right about the I don't want to put words in you.
When I had my first heart attack, I was thirty-seven years old.
It was nineteen seventy-eight, and virtually none of the treatments and devices and medications that uh saved my life had even been invented yet.
And uh now when I look back on on that experience, my doc has a way of describing it, he said, Dick, he said it's like you're getting ready to go to work in the morning but you're late, you jump in your car, you head out and every single stoplight's red.
But he said when you got to 'em, every one of them turned green.
And that's exactly what happened.
Each of those each time I needed some new capability to deal with my latest problem, it was there.
And it was there because of the innovation and creativity of the American health care system.
And it was a it was a blessing.
It was dumb luck to some extent, but uh some of the procedures I went through were were difficult, but uh my dad uh had exactly the same thing I did and of course never had the the benefit of uh all of those things that kept me alive.
Now people are going to accuse me of of taking the advantage taking advantage of your appearance here today to to go political on this and I reject that because I'm simply reacting to what's happening before my very eyes.
In light of these medical advances made available to you.
You you look at especially from your former perch, you look at what is happening to the US health care system what do you think?
I think the uh Obamacare if I can use that word on your show, I think it's I've heard it there a time or two.
Feel free, yeah.
Yeah.
It uh it's devastating.
The uh there's a big piece in the Wall Street Journal I just read this morning written by um I think a pediatric cardiologist talking about what's happening in terms of the way the health profession is being shaped and changed because of what's being done to the Specto Obamacare in terms of of uh reducing the extent to which physicians can be reimbursed for the expense they bear in in treating their cases and their patients.
It's uh having a devastating impact from that perspective.
The device tax, you know, we've I've got a good friend who was involved in the development of the stent.
Uh that's one of the techniques that saved my life.
Uh George W. Bush just had a stint and it saved hundreds of thousands of lives over the years.
His case was more serious than was uh originally believed too apparently I talked to him just after he had the procedure and and uh but it basically um you know thirty years ago stents didn't exist.
Two docks came up with an idea, didn't have any money, went to a friend of mine, a guy named Phil Romano, um who owned FUD Ruckers and Macaroni Grill and so forth and he put up two hundred and fifty thousand dollars they got the patent, they sold it to Johnson and Johnson and now stents are widely available across the country.
And um even Phil now has stents but it it literally added uh for for millions of Americans uh the ability to deal with uh an impending heart attack without ever having to go through that process.
It's it's a life saving device because of the private free enterprise system in this country.
And uh now Barack Obama wants to test uh tax those kinds of devices from day one and the more you tax it the less uh creativity you're gonna have in that regard.
Well it's i that that's all true but I and I I just I blanch at the uh the deceit that has has been part of this.
I mean everything they've promised people's turned out to not be true.
They're their premiums aren't cheaper, the health care's not gonna be better.
It isn't gonna be more plentiful.
Everything the insurance companies have been depleted and we and all this is happening um at the behest of people who d who no experience whatsoever in this field.
They they're they're lifelong uh academicians, theoreticians they're they're they've they've never worked in this field or anything else in the private sector and yet they have this this arrogant presumption that they know better.
And it just it's it's scary to me what's happening because it is the best health care system in the world.
I mean you mentioned the Cleveland clinic I read that they are going to have to start laying off doctors and nurses because of this.
Right.
Um that's exactly what's happening.
I've heard the same about the Cleveland Clinic.
It's one of the foremost heart institutes uh not just in the US but in the world.
And um it it's when you put that much strain on the system as they're doing and as you say by people who don't appear to be able to find their fanny with both hands, they don't know anything about about the the health care industry And he basically is trying to take over what sixteen, seventeen percent of our economy, which is what the h health care system in this country constitutes.
And um they appear to be uh without a clue in terms of what they're doing, the damage they're inflicting.
They can't even set up the computer system so you can get on to the so called health care system.
So it's um I think it's a travesty, Rush.
I think it's one of the worst things I've ever seen in in the domestic policy arena.
And uh I hope uh I hope we uh get it shut down before uh you know, we're unable to correct it.
What did you make of the latest efforts by various wings and I could say the Republican Party to try to defund it or delay it or or slow it down.
What uh you you're watching from afar and yet you've been close.
What what did you think of the effort?
Well, um I'm sure I I'm sympathetic in terms of their desire to want to try to shut it down.
Uh I d I didn't feel like they had a strategy that would work.
Um and didn't.
You know, what unfortunately we got into a situation where uh we didn't achieve the desired result.
Uh I uh I'm a great one for example in believing we shouldn't extend the debt ceiling unless we get command certain reductions in spending.
Um I think you know it's important to to link those kinds of connections together.
Um it's not clear to me that we achieved much with uh the strategy that was followed.
Now we seem to have you know Republicans fighting against Republicans when the real enemies is Barack Obama and he's standing back from the fray watching us duke it out.
You have a few more minutes and I have to take a break, but we can go to the bottom of heaven and don't there's no wrong answer.
If you have to go, that's fine.
No, I'll be happy to talk.
Cool.
Vice President Cheney is with us, and we will be back in mere moments.
Don't go away.
We are back for our remaining moments with Vice President Dick Cheney, eight or nine minutes here, and Mr. Vice President, I mentioned in the uh first hour of the program the audience one of the things I wanted to ask you about was that you feared with your pacemaker, uh some kind of terrorist sabotage via the Internet because the pacemaker was uh uh vulnerable to that.
And I remember the uh TV show Homeland, that is how the vice president show was actually killed in in that way.
Now, I I'm sure your concern predated that that episode, but what what gave you that uh or who who put that possibility into your mind?
Well, we had um it was it was a pacemaker plus in a fact.
My doctors were afraid that I might go into sudden cardiac arrest.
And the way you save that come back from it is with the paddles.
Uh this is a a built-in set of paddles uh goes into it like a pacemaker wired into your heart.
And uh after the uh one I'd worn for about five or six years needed replaced, the new one that came in was capable of being um controlled remotely.
That is you could affect it and adjust the settings on it w f w from a wireless uh capability, and they were worried that if I was on a rope line someplace, somebody could get close enough to be able to, in fact, set off a heart attack uh with the right uh pulse, if you will, at my uh at my uh implantable defibrillator.
So we had them uh disconnect that feature while I was wearing it.
Some years later we actually saw that that scenario played out on homeland and officials.
How realistic was that?
I mean, was that uh just a precaution or was it something they really thought somebody could do if they studied the well it was it was technically feasible.
Somebody demonstrated it that it could in fact be done, and uh so we had to guard against it.
But I wanted to come back if I could rush to the point you mentioned just before the break, in terms of of the most recent battles and in uh over budget and so forth.
Sure.
I really feel very important.
Um I'm from Wyoming, obviously, and and uh daughter Liz is running for the Senate out there this year.
But one of the things we've got to be able to do is to build bridges between and establish working relationships.
I think with all f factions in the party.
There's a tendency right now for people to want to condemn the establishment or condemn Tea Party and and um I think the um in Wyoming anyway, we're working hard to try to keep everybody pulled together and and headed in the same direction on a basic fundamental set of conservative principles that uh we all believe in and uh taking on Barack Obama as who is in fact the adversary and uh well what is it about the Tea Party you think that that bothers uh some members of what is
the so called establishment.
Well I think there are people in what I would call the establishment who are comfortable with status quo.
And um what the Tea Party represents, at least in our state very much are people who frankly have just gotten totally fed up with uh the existing um operations in Washington.
They feel the Constitution is threatened.
They feel that their individual liberties under threat and and Barack Obama is at the at the base of of all of those concerns, but they're also looking for for politicians who will stand up and uh fight for what they believe in.
And uh so I I've got a lot of friends in the Tea Party movement.
Um it's not a uh I don't think it is uh divisive force in my book it's um the kind of uh I'm much rather see them inside the party than outside the party and uh I think it's about uh important that we go forward in terms of building those kinds of relationships and get off this kick that everybody's trying to blame the other guy for uh the problems that uh that occurred uh in the aftermath of the next fight and uh we need to try to be united to do that.
And of course united against the Democrats and Obama there's there's just sadly little pushback.
You know the uh Republican Party is seen as timid in in pushing back against Obama.
And I think that's correct.
They they in fact are in many respects why the race is a is a factor and there's also the perception that the media loves him and then no matter what you say about him the media's gonna crucify you.
Right.
And I think that there's a misconception also in the Republican Party that the majority of the American people love and adore Obama.
I think that's a it's an image that's out there that that survives in the two thousand eight election but political parties they have to identify as something and and if if they don't push back against status quo when they agree with it.
Why do they exist?
Right.
No, it is very important to push back.
And I think the future of the party at this stage and the conservative cause is that we need a new generation involved there, too.
Part of it is to re-energize the party and the organization and find new candidates and people who are ready to take on those aspects of the establishment, if you will, certainly the Obama operation, if we're going to win this fight.
And we've got to do it.
We sit around for another three and a half years we're gonna be in a very very deep hole in this country because of the prices of the Obama administration.
Obamacare is one of the most problems.
You mentioned your daughter Liz, and I was going to ask you about that.
You are excited as a parent.
Now, are you excited about her getting into this?
I absolutely am.
It's great, frankly, to have somebody who watched me go through 40 years in the business and being willing to step up, and with all of her professional qualifications, she's also the mother of
five of my grandchildren and she wants to and has jumped into the arena and uh gotten in the fight and I couldn't be prouder of her I'm delighted that she's willing to do that and and um a lot of good people out there across Wyoming have signed on and um she's uh she's going flat out.
She doesn't hold back.
She doesn't we appreciate it too um Rush you um you said some very nice things about her and and um as a father but also as a as a conservative Republican um uh we appreciated that let me tell you I've I've had occasion to speak with her a couple of times and she's she's she actually called me out for pulling up short on a couple of things where she thought I should have kept going and which I loved I um I I I think she's really committed that there's no question.
Now um your your book I want to get the title of the book out it's called Heart and American medical odyssey you've had five heart attacks.
Right.
And yet you're as I I'm asking you got about a minute and a half here.
You're as active as you want to be now at this point The only thing I can't do, Rush is I can't ski, but that's not because of my heart, that's because I got bad knees.
But it's uh nothing short of America.
Three years ago and in July, I was an end-stage heart failure.
My liver and kidneys were shutting down, blood uh uh ejection fraction was down to ten percent, and uh they brought me back, uh put in a pump, temporary pump.
They ran on batteries, bought me twenty months.
That got me to the transplant of the transplant something short of America or a deep debt to the donor, to the surgeons, to people all across the country who uh ask for my help and their prayers, and um it's um I'm a very lucky man.
Well, you're also missed, if uh if I can say that I know I speak for millions in this audience.
You uh you're profoundly appreciated.
Uh and you took all the arrows as pioneers do.
You took hit after hit, and you remained who you are, and you remain focused, and there's there's such an immense amount of respect and love for you out there, and uh your your perseverance here and your devotion to service.
You and you and Rumsfeld both, I mean, you've given your lives to your country, you've taken all kinds of slings and arrows for it, and I just want you to know that um I am at the top of the list among people who have a great sense of appreciation for what you've done.
Well, thanks a lot, Rush.
That means means the world coming from you.
Well, I I'm I'm flattered, but but you really it's it's an honor to have been able to know you and and uh get to know your family and and your friends, and we wish you the best, Mr. Vice President.
Keep on.
All right, Rush.
Good luck.
Vice President Cheney, who is going hunting this weekend in the wilds of Wyoming with live ammo.
He's actually gonna take a real gun and actually go real hunting.
I thought you left us would like to hear that.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna get to the phones here in um in just a few short minutes because people have been on hold for an hour and a half now, and I want to get to the phones.
There was uh an action yesterday by a federal judge that is a little confusing.
The case is su it's gonna take some um dissecting here.
But the headline of the story in the UK Daily Mail talking about it is bombshell federal judge suddenly greenlights lawsuit that could stop Obamacare in its tracks.
Now, I don't want to get everybody's hopes up, but it it it could be a little sliver of hope.
And it revolves around the 36 states who said no to Obamacare and subsidies.
They should not be getting subsidies, but the IRS is granting them subsidies.
That is not the law.
Now the judge refused essentially summary judgment, but he allowed the lawsuit to continue.
Uh the judge isn't gonna decide this until February, which may make it moot by then the longer this thing goes, the deeper the tentacles get spread into the fabric.
Um but it just example a pull quote from the story the lawsuit claims the Obama regime illegally enforced the Affordable Care Act, suddenly making millions of taxpayers and small employers subject to paying fines if they don't play ball.
The states that didn't sign on to the exchanges do not qualify for subsidies.
Yet the government is forcing them to take them.
And and that's what the lawsuit revolves around.
It's a little bit more complicated and intricate than that.
Um but it's essentially that Obamacare forbids the federal government from enforcing the law in any state that opted out of setting up its own health care exchange.
This is a contention being made by a group of small businesses who filed the lawsuit, and they they got a hearing Monday in federal court, and they were not thrown out.
So it's uh that there point is there are still people coming at this thing in in a variety of ways to try to find some way to create if if delay uh continue to keep it bollocks up.
Uh the website itself may do that.
I mean the the Kathleen Sabilia says, Well, we got a pro they don't have a product.
They don't have a pro they don't have anything to sell.
Their websites, the product, but they've got nothing to sell.
People trying to sign up, this is an it's it's an absolute disaster.
And they say they got three to four weeks to fix this and it's not fixable by them.
And it's uh I don't know.
I we'll we'll just have to see how it how it plays out.
In the meantime, let's go back to the phones and let's get to the phones.
We haven't gone there yet, except for Vice President Cheney.
We'll start in Oregon with Joanne.
I'm glad that you uh waited.
Great to have you here.
Hi.
Thank you so much, Russ.
Um, I'm just calling to give you an idea of what the Obamacare is doing to the pharmaceutical industry.
I'm a pharmacy technician.
Um what does a pharmacy technician do?
Pharmacy technicians will take your prescription in, we'll type it up, we count your pills, the pharmacist will check it, we'll ring you up, we run your um we run your insurance if you have any, we find you discount cards if you don't.
So you're the interface.
Yeah, yeah, that's that's what we do, and we work really hard.
Um but one of the because everybody wants it right now.
Absolutely.
Yeah, they all want it right away.
Fifty people in line want it right now.
Yes, yes, and you c you you can't do it all.
But one of the things that's been happening to the pharmaceutical industry is our our hours are being squeezed.
It's not saying that they're being cut, it's just that we're having to work harder, there's less of us in there.
Because the rate of reimbursement for most government plans, and there's getting to me I'm seeing more and more government plans coming in.
The rate of reimbursement for government plans is being cut.
So a lot of the medications that we sell, you'll pay your copay, you'll walk away.
We will be taking anywhere from a seventy-five dollar to sometimes even a three hundred dollar loss on what you walked out the door with.
And they're reaching the stage where they can't afford employees anymore.
Um they're having to make decisions of trying to sell more stuff out in the store, cutting hours of people out in the store, cutting our hours back, working their pharmacists, your average pharmacist in a chain will work twelve hour days, no lunches, no breaks.
They're on their feet.
This doesn't make sense.
Whoever de b how do how do people expect the doctors to not get paid, the pharmacies to not get paid, the patients do not have to pay.
How does this work?
It's not going to.
And that's that's the deal.
It's it's it is shutting down now.
I'm watching it.
I worked for a a company, worked for them for quite a while.
It reached the stage where I physically couldn't keep up with the job anymore.
You'd go in and you would you would have sweat dripping off your face all day, all nine hours.
You you would just it someone was in your face all the time.
You you couldn't couldn't cope.
So I took a job with uh with a pharmacy that had a little bit better working conditions, and I'm watching the same story play over again there.
I'm watching their um managers make the same decisions that this other place did and slowly start to squeeze us into the same situation that I was before.
Um now wait.
So you're you're you're faced once again with longer hours?
Um yeah, you you'll go in, you'll work you'll work less days, you'll work longer hours.
Um because the pharmacy is not being recompensated enough to make to make up their costs.
Yes, exactly.
They're not being recompensated.
Let's say um, they're taking it out on you, the employee by cutting your hours.
Yes, because they've got no other place to go.
I mean, they've got to pay their drug bills.
They have to pay their licensing bills, they have to pay their pharmacists.
But y when you're being squeezed, I mean you've got to make a profit somewhere.
And and labor, I mean they can run cocaine out the back door.
Yes.
Right.
But probably not.
Let's hope not.
But um so it it it's just it's just being squeezed, but it's reaching the stage where it's it's it's it's not gonna be viable in another two or three years if they don't i if something doesn't happen.
There th th they're probably gonna be some concessions made, I suppose, um over things that we have to do, but Joanne, did you happen to see the president's Rose Garden uh at a boy ceremony on Monday.
I heard parts of it.
Well, there was one of the props, people, one of the props behind Obama was supposedly somebody worked at a CVS pharmacy.
And she's going on and on and on and on about how great Obamacare is.
Well, I'm sorry she lies.
There are liberals in pharmacy.
There's so much lying and so much deceit going on in this.
the b the bottom line is the White House is now going to decide how much prescriptions are gonna cost they're gonna have deciding how much money you make the doctors make that's what this is going to mean.
They're gonna be in charge of every aspect of this.
Yeah and and and it's gonna crash.
It's gonna crash unless you unless you institute slavery I suppose um it's gonna crash.
You you cannot you cannot enslave people.
And in in some of the pharmacies I've worked in it was close to that.
I mean can you imagine going in having a a pharma D degree you're a doctor of pharmacy you walk through the door at nine o'clock in the morning or eight thirty to get your paperwork time.
Look you don't understand you're just gonna have to be patient.
If you hang in there long enough Joanne you're gonna be working for the government which means you'll be able to shut down and get turkey on Thanksgiving in during shutdowns and get furloughed and back pay if you can hang in longer the government's gonna be running all of it you're gonna be a government employee there behind the counter.
I'd sooner choke.
Look, I understand.
I hear these horror stories.
It's hard to keep up with them.
Some of it, I know to a lot of people, this doesn't make any sense.
And the only way it does is because they're living it too.
On one side of it.
But it does boil down to exactly how is this system going to work when the doctor doesn't get paid, when the pharmacy doesn't get paid, and the patient doesn't think he or she has to pay.
How does that work?
work and the answer is it can't I appreciate the call Joanne we gotta take a break folks sit tight we're coming right back don't go greetings my friends welcome back Rush Limbaugh as always having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have this is Siri in Freeport Illinois.
Hi Siri welcome to the program Hi.
Um I just wanted uh talk to you about the small business thing you were on talking about earlier um yeah well uh the small business thing we were talking about.
Oh, that small business thing.
Yeah, the small business thing.
Yeah, yeah.
I was thinking that maybe we shouldn't invest in small business because eventually small businesses will go into bigger businesses and then, you know, there'll be big businesses.
And you said that big businesses aren't good, but I think that it doesn't really matter because business is business.
Wait a minute.
Wait, wait.
Hold, hold, hold, hold.
Just a second.
we should not invest...
in small business because if we do small business will eventually become big business right and big businesses aren't good isn't that what you said?
No.
Oh.
Well.
Never.
We should invest in both, I guess.
Oh, you want to invest in small and large businesses?
Yeah.
Oh.
Well, I'm curious what you think you heard when you heard me say that I wasn't in favor of big business.
Well, people always talk about about how big businesses aren't good for Everyone because of the CEOs always getting the their bonuses and everything and they're rich and you know they don't like them because they're always getting so much money.
No, that's not that I d you must have been listening to something else, Siri.
Oh.
Because that will that's not something I believe.
I wouldn't uh wouldn't have ever said that.
Oh.
I'm sorry to let you down.
I you know what I thought?
I thought you were going to tell me that small business was bad because it became big business, and big business was bad, and therefore we shouldn't have any business.
Well we have to make money somehow.
We yes we do.
That is a positive note.
We we do have to make money somehow.
The CEOs have to get paid, and they have to have their bonuses, and that comes from profits.
And productive workers and so forth, employees and so forth.
So I'm you you must have mistakenly thought that it was me, but it wasn't me, because I assure you that I was not being critical and uh even today, but even having said something like that would have been facetious or making um you know a satirical point.
But it was Mark Levin.
I don't know.
Well, Levin, he's a well-known hater of big business, yeah.
Um so that might have been who you heard, come to think of it.
Yeah.
My stepdad always listens to you and Mark Levin, so I I just get them confused sometimes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've talked to Levin about it, but you know, he's um he's working on it.
He's working on it.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to get you.
No, that's okay.
That's a we're it we're I'm glad you called here.
It's it's it's good to have clarity and and to have your your your uh uh mistaken impressions set right.
Yeah.
So um anyway, I just um have you tried to sign up yet at an Obamacare exchange?
No.
Do you have not gone to healthcare.gov?
No.
Why not?
Because I don't like it.
Do you have health insurance?
Yeah.
You do?
Yeah.
Well, the answer is not for long.
Um you're cute, Siri.
You're cute.
I just I just was in the process when I took your call.
I was just a pr printing out a story.
John Boehner, the speaker of the house, has predicted based on what he's learned, and this is just from my memory, I'm gonna have to print it out, read it during the break, but what he thinks more people are losing insurance when they when they go to healthcare.gov then are getting it.
That's how screwed up it is.
More people are are being priced out or finding out they don't qualify for subsidies so they can afford it.
So more people end up without having insurance, then have it after they go to healthcare.gov.
Now I've got I've got to dig and read further uh on that, see if that's true.
But Siri, thanks for the call.
I uh I pre you y you you um you you live in Freeport, Illinois, and I'm glad you're there.
Thanks for the call.
I'm I'm glad you have the chance to uh have it straightened out and learn the truth here about the fact that it's not me who hates big business.
I I'm I'm one of the biggest proponents of business, period.
Small bit but small business especially, because that's where 75% in a normal uh non-Obama economy, that's where 75% of job creation and jobs anyway um are.
The the the Boehner story, here here it is, the the the how it starts.
House Speaker John Boehner predicted today that by the end of the month more Americans will have lost their insurance by being kicked off existing health plans than the number who were able to sign up at the flawed healthcare.gov website.
And I'm sure this is because people are finding you that they asked Sibelius, and I've got still got three of the most amazing sound bites in that that that absolute uh train wreck that was their interview last night.
And And they asked her uh if if she um if she signed up for Obama.
Oh no, oh no, no, no, no.
I I haven't tried something.
I have I have insurance.
And uh the interviewer, Sanjay Gupta said, you have insurance.
Well, did you find it challenging?
Because she did she didn't check it out.
You know, she runs the thing.
And he asked her if she found it challenging.
Well, I think there certainly is some challenges.
It could be smoother, it could be easier to access, and that's really what we're working on with the IT team at 150%.
Uh and so forth.
But she's she has insurance.
Yeah, but for how long?
That's the key for everybody.
Okay, folks, hang in there, be tough.
We got one big, exciting, busy broadcast hour yet to go.
And I am um I basically told you the seconds of two more Sibelius sound bites, and there's some other gems in this roster today that uh we'll get to.
And lots of other stuff in the stacks, too.
I mean, it's literally overwhelming how much we've got.
So sit tight, hang in there and be tough.
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