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July 4, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 4, 2013, Thursday, Hour #3
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And we're back.
I know it was a long time.
Five minutes, six minutes can seem like forever when you're waiting for me.
But it was well worth it because here we are back at it.
Great to have you, Rush Limbaugh, the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
Telephone number if you want to be on the program 800 28282 and the email address.
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I had to hurry through this.
Oh it grabs on my 28 again before we get to Elbert Gillary.
And I'm not trying to string you along here, folks, as you know this program is improv.
It just happens as it happens.
There's no there's no structure here.
This is what people don't understand.
Most every other media presentation is structured, formatically, segment-wise, none of that here.
It just happens off the top of the head.
And I I had to I had to rush through this Gloria Borger soundbite, but earlier in the program in the first hour, we went through some pretty interesting polling data.
I don't want to make too much of it, but it is different.
Obama's approval number overall is down, and issue by issue it's way down.
For example, there's a 10-point increase in the number of people who think that Obama personally supervise the IRS targeting of Tea Party people.
A 10-point increase up to a little over 51% now.
That's that's a massive leap.
In the case of the NSA scandal, that has affected people under 30.
The drop in approval for Obama in the under 30 crowd took a 17-point hit.
So we were speculating here why.
What might be the explanation for this?
And I offered that Obama has not been using what I call here the limbaugh theorem.
And what Obama does to keep himself unattached from everything happening in his administration, his presidency, is to campaign against it.
He's always on TV, the campaign-looking, an event that looks like a campaign.
He's either fundraising or campaigning for the latest uh piece of legislation he wants, but he's always out appearing like a candidate.
And the one thing that people perceive about a candidate is he's seeking election.
Now they know Obama's president, don't misunderstand.
They know that.
But they also, and we're talking about low information voters here.
They also believe that when Obama says the deficit won't go up a dime, that he means it.
And when it does, it's not his fault.
He's trying to keep that from happening.
When Obama says that health insurance premiums are going to drop by $2,500, they believe that.
So when health premiums skyrocket, because Obama's constantly campaigning against higher costs.
His supporters believe that it's happening in spite of him, and that he's doing his best to stop it.
He's doing his best to fix it.
They do not see that he's the architect of all of it.
So my theory is that in the last ten days to two weeks, he has ceased this behavior.
He's not making speeches against the NSA.
He's not making campaign appearances against the IRS.
He is not making campaign appearances against NSA spying or any of these other issues.
Obama visually on the campaign trail has ceased.
And I know, believe me, I know, that when I articulated this theory, I have empathy.
I know that many of you thought, boy, Rush, you'll do anything to get your theory out there, won't you?
You'll do anything.
Try to persuade us your theory is right.
That's not what I was doing.
You might have thought it was a stretch.
That's why I want you to listen to Gloria Borger.
She was on CNN this afternoon.
I have a show called Around the World.
And a co-anchor Michael Holmes was talking to Borger.
She's the chief political analyst of CNN.
And they were talking about the NSA releasing new information about alleged terror plots that were allegedly foiled by the surveillance program.
And the host asked Gloria Borger on the political aspect of this.
Does the NSA telling their success story help the president politically, or is he going to have to do more?
Because the subtext here is that CNN has a poll where Obama is losing support on the NSA issue.
And I want you to hear how she answers this question and what she thinks Obama better start doing.
We know that the president has given some press interviews.
He's encouraged this conversation about the balance between liberty and national security.
But uh, at some point the president's gonna have to lead the conversation because after all, this is the same person who railed against a form of these kind of surveillance when he was a United States Senator.
So I think it may be more incumbent upon him at a certain point after they unroll this, as they're clearly trying to do, to come out and speak some more about it to the American people.
Yes, see they she knows exactly what his formula for success is, and she wants him to do more of it.
Mr. President, you need to get out there and stay critical of what the NSA is doing.
And she is getting ever so close to confirming the existence of the limbaugh theorem.
She is getting ever so close to acknowledging that it exists and that Obama has wandered off the pathway because he has ceased speaking out against these things, and when he stops speaking out against them, then this appearance of detachment also vanishes.
So Gloria Borger wants him to get back out there and start speaking against this stuff, even though she knows it's his policy.
So I just wanted to run that by you now.
Louisiana State Senator Elbert Gillary has released a video message to his constituents about why he switched parties from Democrat to Republican.
Now, the fact that there have been Democrats switch parties, not new.
The fact there have been black Democrats switch party, not new.
But State Senator Elbert Gillary does it in an historical way and says things that you don't hear ever from anyone from the civil rights coalition.
We have three sound bites from this.
The whole thing, uh, if you look at this in a right frame, it might be a tearjerker.
But here are the three sound bites that we have for you.
The Democrat Party has created the illusion that their agenda and their policies are what's best for black people.
Somehow it's been forgotten that the Republican Party was founded in 1854 as an abolitionist movement with one simple creed that slavery is a violation of the rights of man.
Frederick Douglass called Republicans the party of freedom and progress.
And the first Republican president was Abraham Lincoln, the author of the Emancipation Proclamation.
It was Republicans in Congress who authored the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, giving former slaves citizenship, voting rights, and due process of law.
Democrats, on the other hand, were the party of Jim Crow.
It was Democrats who defended their rights of slave owners.
All that's true, and all of it's never said, except by the likes of us.
But we're not black, and we're not former Democrats.
But this man's elected by African Americans in his state in Louisiana.
He's switched parties, and he's giving people who venture to his website and look at his video, which by the way is on YouTube and it's gone viral.
He's giving them an a history lesson.
Now you've heard it on this program.
You know pretty much all you're gonna hear from the from the man, but he is reaching an audience, his voters, Who don't hear this kind of thing and need to hear more of it at the heart of liberalism is the idea that only a great and powerful big government can be the benefactor of social justice for all Americans.
But the left is only concerned with one thing control.
And they disguise this control as charity.
Programs such as welfare, food stamps, these programs aren't designed to lift black Americans out of poverty.
They were always intended as a mechanism for politicians to control the black community.
The idea that blacks, or anyone for that matter, need the government to get ahead in life is despicable.
Our self-initiative and our self-reliance have been sacrificed in exchange for allegiance to our overseers who control us by making us dependent on them.
Now, not news to you, obviously.
You know this, and you've prayed that Democrat voters across the country would someday realize this.
The reason I want you to hear this, and the reason I think it's important is in the current climate, this just isn't the kind of thing that a Democrat, even a former Democrat says.
And so I think the fact that people like State Senator Elbert Gillary from Louisiana are there and willing to speak at a time like this is hopeful.
And that's why I'm giving a wide audience to his comments.
Here's the final sample.
The whole video presentation he makes is worth it.
Here's the final of the three we have.
These are the ideas at the core of the Republican Party, and it is why I am a Republican.
So my brothers and sisters of the American community.
Please join with me today in abandoning the government plantation and the party of disappointment.
So that we may all echo the words of one Republican leader who famously said, free at last, free at last.
Thank God Almighty.
We are free at last.
And that was from Sunday, by the way, State Senator Elbert Gillary from Louisiana.
His website's Elbert Gillary.com.
And we have a goal here, and that's to shut down every website we mention.
And we've never failed.
I even shut down my own one day, and we're protected against that.
That's how big it was.
But I need to spell for you his last name, Elbert.
Self-explanatory, E-L-B-E-R-T.
But Gillary is spelled G-U I L O R Y. Elbert Gillary.com.
G-U-I-L-L-O-R-Y.
Brief timeout.
Your phone calls are coming next, so don't go away.
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Carolyn in Crete, Illinois.
Great to have you on the program.
Hi.
Hi, Professor Limbla.
I'm very nervous to speak to you, and I'm thank you for everything you do for us every day.
Well, I appreciate that.
Thank you.
I'll make my question really quick.
Um, I was just curious to your opinion on what you would think will happen that after Obamacare is fully implemented and all of these um illegal immigrants are made legal and they have drained the pocketbooks and the morale of not only the Republicans and the conservatives, but the hardworking middle of the road Democrats, do you think that this could do?
Well, let me tell you, let me just give you one area that you've brought up, Obamacare.
I happen to be a small business proprietor.
And as such, I am looking at what the tax tables are going to be starting next year.
Deductions for all of uh our employees.
I'm here to tell you that with the very first paychecks next year, there are going to be people who think that their big mistake has been made.
Oh, no doubt.
I agree.
Way too much money's been taken out, and they're not, and a lot of these people are going to be shocked because a lot of these people think that Obamacare is going to make life cheaper.
Insurance is going to be cheap.
They believe this stuff.
I I think that there is Just in Obamacare and taxes alone, there is huge sticker shock.
If I may use that term to describe this, I think there's huge sticker shock coming for a lot of people because a lot of people think that only people of 250 grand a year or more are going to be affected by it.
And that isn't the case at all.
Now, your question is that gonna wake these people up.
Well, they keep saying that the Democrat that the Republican Party is going to be done with if there's amnesty and with you know the new influx of Hispanics, but with like you said, with the Obamacare coming, I'm wondering if maybe this isn't going to be the wake-up call that the Republican Party has been waiting for,
and that people are gonna say we were totally duped, we should have read the fine print, and we're voting that the way I'm you're you all know that I am among the most bullion and positive people around.
But I'm also the mayor of real.
And I Carolyn, I know that you and millions of Americans are dreaming of one day seeing news stories featuring thousands, millions of Americans saying, you know what?
I was tricked.
You know what?
I was wrong.
You know what?
I was played for fool.
You know, I don't think you're ever if if that is the circumstance that you are relying on in order to feel good or what I I I'm not gonna sit here and predict you that's ever going to happen.
If it does, you're not gonna see it reported.
The media's not gonna do stories like that.
American people wake up, American people realize Obama fraud, never gonna happen.
American people realize they were screwed, never gonna happen.
American people realize Obama hoodwinked them, never gonna happen.
American people realize they made biggest mistakes since founding.
Never gonna happen.
American people in mass suicide, unless Republicans can save them, never gonna happen.
You're you're I'm I'm not trying to pour ice water.
But look, what Carolyn, what you really want are people going to change the way they vote.
That will happen.
I'm confident some point that's gonna happen.
But whether you're gonna have people that voted for Obama call you or tell you, you know, you were right.
Boy, did we make a huge mistake?
That's not the way it's gonna manifest itself.
And uh, I'm only saying because I hear that I I get this question.
Look, like you, I dream of.
I would love nothing more than to see the lead story of the NBC Nightly News, we were wrong.
Sorry, we lied to you.
That's never gonna happen.
It isn't the media's gonna do everything they can to save Obama and his reputation and every Democrat they can for the rest of our lives.
Back in a moment.
Back to the phone says Southfield, Michigan.
This is Jesse.
Jesse, glad to have you on the program.
Hi.
Uh, how are you doing there, Rush?
And thanks for taking my call.
You bet, sir.
Oh, well, I I called and I had a lengthy conversation with your screener, but uh, I originally called bec of because of your comments of uh why women, blacks, and uh Hispanics don't vote for the Republican Party, and then the uh the uh Senator Congressman in Louisiana that flip-flopped.
But first, I wanted to tell you, even though I I'm a center left liberal kind of leaning right now, but I did vote for uh Bush in 2004, and I voted for his father.
I never took the chance to tell your screen of that.
His father in 88.
Uh reason being I 88, uh I finished college, so I got into corporate America, and I got tired of paying taxes on the Democrats, raising taxes, raising taxes.
Under Bush of 2004, I liked what he did in response to 9-11, no child left behind, and uh his couple little stimulus packages where he lowered taxes also.
I flipped back over to the Democrat Party and the aunt to ask the question to answer your question why.
I think if Republicans try to stop blacks from voting in inner cities through the South and some up north, they get more votes from blacks.
Women, if they stay out of their womb, I think they will get more votes from women and with Hispanics.
I think that they should go ahead and I I kind of disagree with you with your uh with Marco Rubio and things like that.
I think if you go ahead and do emigration reform, I think you would pick a lot of Hispanics back up because they're conservatives, I agree with you.
They're conservatives at hurt.
So that's that part right there.
That's that's why I if you want to pick up more votes you want to now let me go back to um take some of this stuff in order.
What what do you mean if Republicans would stop suppressing the black vote in the inner cities and say how how are Republicans keeping blacks from voting?
Well it's they're not keeping them from voting because uh more blacks voted in this last election in the history and I think it's partly because they were pissed off because you just said you no but you just said the Republicans got to stop trying to suppress the black vote.
Right the attempt and that's the uh multiple voter ID laws in places like Virginia uh throughout the South uh leave that stuff alone let people you mean requiring a photo ID to vote well requiring a different photo ID from the one that you have in your pocket that's what I'm talking about.
If you got a if you got a government ID photo in your pocket that should be fine enough if you go to the DMV or the Secretary of State whatever it's called in your state and you register or get a driver's license and they send you a voter card out a voter ID I I I look at it like this.
You showed your ID when you've got your voter ID when you got your voter card.
All right so why should she why should you should you have to show it again when you go to uh the poll okay now if you're a moderate left liberal why are you giving advice to the Republicans?
Why do you want them to do better?
Well, you've got to remember, call me more sinner.
I might be a little bit more sinner.
But if you want to be a Big Ten again, not just the party of the South, not just the party of all white men, you've got to stop.
The Aikens, I can't remember his first name, the abortion comments, the immigration, the people against immigration, you've got to stop all that.
Let everybody in the tent.
Even if you had got all Hispanic women vote in this last election you still would have lost.
Exactly so I'm just saying exactly so what's the why why what what's the point?
Well I I I mean I love some conservative ideas.
I love paying lower taxes things like that but you got in the party has to include everybody.
And it does the party conservatism doesn't eliminate and doesn't discriminate against anybody by definition.
That's correct.
But when you make efforts to suppress votes uh take away women's rights to choose things like that that does hurt your party I'm not talking about the politics of your party I mean nobody to your party wait a minute Jesse nobody is taking away a woman's right to choose.
There is not one woman who has wanted to have an abortion who has been prevented from it by virtue of some Republican telling her she can't it's never happened.
Okay so all of the uh laws passed through state senators and state congresses throughout the country uh prohibiting women's uh right to choose or limiting the weak state can get another there is no such law the the Constitution says that Roe vs Wade is legal there is no such law prohibiting a woman's right to choose.
Okay well we're gonna just have to agree to disagree on that one.
I would say what about in Alabama Mississippi all the elimination abortion clinics Colorado same thing.
You know uh leave that stuff I think to me there's nothing wrong with the Republican party's politics it's the people in the party and some of the things they're there that's how I see it at least.
You know we you and I might disagree on it but I think the politics is nothing wrong with the politics.
I think it's the people in the party I wanna one thing one example uh two things it's not the politics Jesse, what you're illustrating is that it's all the perception.
Everything you think so right.
Everything you think is wrong.
Everything you think is the result of erroneous lying, stinking media stuff, and propaganda put out by the Democrats.
See, I I would say that I would agree with you, but see, I I'm like this.
I I know you uh uh you you call a lot of people, especially on the liberal side, low information voters, but you know what?
I listen to Fox, you, uh Sean Hannity.
I listen to your show from start to finish every day for for for the last four or five years.
Right, good for you.
Um I'm a big uh watcher of O'Reilly and Hannity on Fox.
So I listen to both sides, then I watch a little MSNBC.
And I listen to a little L Sharp and then um uh you're confused.
I just get both sides of the story before before I make my own.
But but sometimes sometimes one side of the story is an out and out lie.
In fact, most of the time, one side of the story is an out and out lie.
In fact, most of the stories you hear the Democrats tell, they don't even talk about themselves.
All they're doing is ripping Republicans, telling distorted lies about conservatism or Republicans, or they're trying to impugn the character of individual Republican candidates or what have you.
Um Right, but that goes back and forth.
That's both sides doing it, and I know that's true.
But I think that people have to make a determination.
They have to listen, they can't just listen to the uh listen to liberal uh stations and uh shows and and then take their opinion without listening to both sides.
Me, I do both, and then I make the decision for myself.
So as far as this is me personally.
Okay, wait a minute.
Let me ask you a question about this both sides business.
I'm interpreting that to mean that you don't know what you think on most things.
So you've got to listen to this or you've got to listen to that before you make up your mind.
Well, I think you should hear both sides of the story or both sides of an opinion before you choose a side or you make a depiction you form an opinion based on uh both sides of information.
No.
I don't.
The liberals lie.
I do not form my opinions on what both sides say.
I form my opinions on what I know to be right.
I form my opinion on what I know to be what I believe in terms of principles.
I do not liberals always lie.
I do not have to listen to Democrats to know what I believe.
Well, so are you saying liberals always lying and and recurrent conservatives don't?
Uh for the most part, that's a pretty that's a pretty safe bet.
Well, that's kind of closed-minded, Rush.
No, it's not closed-minded.
It's it's it's what it is is profoundly informed.
I know who the Democrats are.
I know how they campaign.
I know how they poison people's minds.
I know how they lie about me.
I know how they lie about everything I believe.
I know how they keep people in fear.
I know how they want to control people.
I know how they want people to believe things that aren't true.
I know everything about them.
I know more about them than they do.
I do not think both sides do that, though.
Pardon me?
Both sides do that.
I don't that that's a straw man argument.
That's a straw.
Then both sides are disqualified, and you should find that something if if you're gonna say, well, both sides do that and both sides do this and both sides.
How do you ever decide what you believe?
You have to make a determination for yourself which li which side is.
That's what I'm saying.
I've done that.
62 years old.
I've made the determinations.
I know who the skunks are.
I know who are the people I trust and believe.
I know more than that, I know the things that I believe to be true.
I know the principles that I believe and swear by.
I know the constitution of this country.
I love it.
I know that there's a constitutional republic.
I know the Democrat Party doesn't like the Constitution.
The Democrat Party's waging war.
No, Jesse, I'm telling you the truth.
Now you can go listen to Al Sharpt and tell you what he thinks about what I just said.
Yeah, but he's not super, super duper far left.
So you can you you can't take everything he says at heart.
Uh that's exactly right, Jess.
So why are you wasting time over there on MSNBC?
Well, no, you gotta I like Sad.
I'm I'm one that listens to both sides.
I listen to both sides of an argument.
Then I need to make a determination for myself who's lying or who's uh stretching the truth a little bit.
All right, let's play let's let's play a little game on this both sides business.
Okay.
NSA, no, IRS targeting tea parties.
The Democrats say, no, no, no, it didn't happen.
It was an accident that was just that the the the people of you know excessive exuberance in there in the IRS on a couple of employees side.
Uh the Republicans say no, it was a purposeful effort to suppress conservative participation in the election by denying them tax exempt status, so they couldn't raise money, they couldn't, uh they couldn't create voter efforts, get out the vote efforts, and it was an effort by the Obama administration to limit and suppress Republican votes.
Those are the two sides of the issue.
What do you think?
I agree with you on that.
I'm on your side on that.
I think people at the IRS uh did do this on purpose.
Now the part I don't disagree with, I don't think Obama picked up the phone and called him and told him to do it.
That's right.
That's my and you know what?
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Then you know why?
He doesn't have to.
He has people in place who already know what he wants.
There isn't gonna be a smoking gun memo from Obama saying, I want you people target the Tea Party.
I want you to make sure they don't raise money, I want you to make sure they don't vote.
The people he put there don't want conservatives to succeed.
He doesn't.
Everybody that Obama has working in these positions is a miniature Obama doing everything that he wants done because they want to please him, so he doesn't have to tell them.
But you don't think Obama actually told someone to tell the IRS to do this.
No, I'm telling you he doesn't have to.
All he's got to do is hire people who agree with him and turn them loose.
He doesn't have to tell anybody.
Okay.
So we so then we're both in agreement on that with it was wrong, but I don't think uh that he actually directly picked up a phone or actually directly told someone to have this done on purpose.
Wait a minute.
Does that mean to you that he wishes it didn't happen?
Well, no, I don't I actually I don't because I looked at the polls from a year out of the Romney and he was always five or seven points down.
Jesse, this is the thing.
This is this is this is this is it in a nutshell.
Uh you are seeking to exempt Obama from what the IRS did, his IRS.
Not necessarily without proof, yes.
I think that's a good thing.
Because you because you don't think he called them and told them to do it.
And you and directed someone to have them do it.
He didn't have to.
That's right.
He didn't have to.
He puts like-minded people in position who will do it without having to be told.
Eric Holder is at the Justice Department doing everything Obama wants done.
Obama probably never has to speak to him.
Whatever's going on at the NSA and the spying scandal, they're doing everything Obama wants done.
IRS Ditto, FDA ditto.
It doesn't matter.
Obama puts people in those positions purposely, because they are him.
He has an agenda.
He wants it accomplished.
He doesn't have time to meet with everybody.
He's not gonna create a smoking gun memo telling them what to do, so that nobody can ever prove it like you're trying to exonerate him here.
This is where your own intelligence guided by experience has to inform you.
And looking at both sides of this isn't gonna get you anywhere.
You have to have the courage to admit that one side is wrong.
And 99 times out of a hundred, it's gonna be the left that's wrong.
Okay, we're back.
Great to have you here.
Now a couple of things here on um uh Jesse, uh, ladies and gentlemen.
Jesse, I know you're still there, and I'm I appreciate the uh the call.
I had to get out because I was running way long in the segment, but Obama hasn't fired anybody for what they did in any of these scandals.
Now you might be saying Lois Lerner.
No, she's still working.
Just from from home.
Nobody's been punished for what they did.
Uh if you don't like the fact that liberals lie more than conservatives do.
Let's just put it this way, they're wrong.
They may believe everything they believe.
They're dead wrong.
It's been demonstrably proven in so many things, economically, culturally, they are they're wrong.
But the fact remains in all of this stuff.
Look at what did Jesse say?
He said he voted for Bush 2004 until he heard that Republicans were suppressing the black vote.
Now, This is why the Democrats lie.
They have to lie to keep people on their reservation.
Here's an African American who liked Bush, and he gave us the reasons.
He liked No Child Left Behind.
He liked some of Bush's stimulus.
He liked Bush's tax cuts.
But then he heard somebody say that the Republicans are suppressing the black vote.
Now the fact of the matter is blacks run.
The heavily black districts in every inner city in this country.
There is no way blacks run every district in Detroit.
They run every district for the most part in New York.
There are exceptions there, but whether they're black or not, they're ultra leftists.
They run these.
There's no way that the Republican Party can suppress the black vote in demonstrably black districts.
It isn't physically possible.
How are they going to do it?
Are they going to go in there in these districts that are run by blacks and somehow sabotage the buses?
No, it's the Democrats that did that in Milwaukee by slitting the tires.
How are these Republicans suppressing the black vote?
There's no evidence for it.
It's just a lie that the Democrats tell that sticks because of other lies they've told before that.
And the big lie is that Republicans are racists.
So African Americans hear this for 50 years, and then the Democrats come out and the right Democrat Jesse Jackson Sharpton, whoever starts talking about Republicans suppressing the black vote.
Oh yeah, well, I'll show you.
I voted for Bush, but no more.
That's how they do it.
How do Republicans suppress the black vote?
How are the how the Republicans stopping abortions?
There aren't any abortion clinics being shut down other than these murder factories that you can count on one hand, Kermit Gosnell and the like.
People are believing myths.
They're easy to believe because they've been tall for 50 years.
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