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May 29, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 29, 2013, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Yes, America's Anchorman is away, and this is your undocumented anchorman, Mark Stein, filling in, living in the shadows and loving it.
I'm here today.
Doug Urbanski, Mr. Hollywood, will be here tomorrow to take you through the end of the week.
Doug heard me say at the top of the first hour that he would be broadcasting from his home, Poolside, by the kidney-shaped swimming pool.
in his lovely landscaped garden in Beverly Hills, accompanied with a pool full of starlets.
It'll be something, it'll be like out of Esther Williams in Dangerous When Wet, 1950.
And Doug called in to say that he will be broadcasting Poolside, but the Starlets won't arrive until the third hour.
So bear that in mind if you're a Rush 24-7 subscriber and you've got the ditto cam that the Starlets won't be in the pool until the third hour when Doug does the show tomorrow.
I'm here doing it in far northern New Hampshire.
By the way, he says the pool is heated to 88 degrees.
I'm doing it here from Ice Station EIB in far northern New Hampshire.
I've heated, it's an above-the-ground pool, but I've heated it to 42 degrees, so it's pretty nice actually at the moment.
And I only do the show from the above-the-ground pool because it's actually bigger than my trailer.
So I'm having a great time.
And there's no Starlets, but in the final hour, a final, yeah, no, seven moose, seven moose will be joining me in the pool.
So if you hear splashing and excited giggles, don't worry, it's not the starlets.
That's when Doug does the show.
It'll just be the moose with me.
If you hear the occasional whinny or honk, it'll just be just be the livestock joining me in the pool.
I wanted to say a word, by the way.
I woke up today to sad news out of Minnesota, and that is Michelle Buckman says she will not be running for re-election in 2014.
And I was saddened by this for a couple of reasons.
One, I thought actually Michelle Buckman was a great addition to the presidential campaign and that the debates apart from anything else got extremely boring once she was off the panels.
But the other thing I like about her is she took a ton of, she took a ton of, she's like a lot of successful Republican women.
She took a ton of heat about everything because there's something about successful Republican women that so-called liberal feminists seem to absolutely loathe.
And they hammered Michelle Buckman.
She was portrayed as crazy.
I'm personally very grateful to her.
Years ago, when my book, America Alone, came out, they had some thing run by whatever it is, the American Library Association or whatever, about they get celebrities and politicians to be photographed with their favorite books to encourage children to read it.
Some thing they do in the grade schools, America Reads or some name like that.
And most people, of course, just pick your Thomas the Tank Engine book or Little House on the Prairie or whatever.
So they go and get, you know, some, I don't know, Sean Penn or Matt Dillon or somebody to stand there posing with Thomas the Tank Engine or Little House on the Prairie.
Michelle Buckman posed with my book, America Alone, the End of the World as We Know It.
And I don't know whether that has been mandated for Minnesota grade school.
I certainly hope so.
I mean, yes, of course it may give them a few sleepless nights for months on end, may traumatize them, may tip them over the edge into complete derangement and they may end up in straitjackets at the Minnesota State Mental Institution.
But so what if it sells a few more copies of my book?
I'm all for that.
But I was extremely grateful to see Michelle Bachmann posing with my book, America Alone.
And I was especially heartened when all her opponents in Minnesota immediately said, This is it.
This is proof that she's completely flown the coupe, that she's endorsing some crazy loon like Mark Stein.
That is a sign that this woman is completely nuts.
And in fact, she wasn't nuts at all.
She read that book and she read my next book.
And she was quoting some of the stuff about it on Meet the Press about a week after it came out.
She actually read it herself, which I found particularly impressive because, you know, you know the way it works now that most elected officials in America have these vast retinues the size of Gulf Amirs.
If they're interested in a book, they get the minion to instruct some other minion who gets the minion who's in charge of reading books on behalf of the deputy executive associate minion to read the book for the congressman or the senator.
But Michelle Bachman actually read this stuff herself.
And the great thing about what I always liked about her, when you saw her on TV appearances or live speeches or whatever, was that if she got interested in a subject, you would get the sense that she had been genuinely engaged by that subject and was going to tell the truth on that subject and was going to stick to her particular line on that subject,
regardless of whether the focus group showed it was popular or unpopular or just wasn't something they were interested in.
She was very good in particular on all the stuff that this president is so lazy about, on all the stuff to do with national security and the war on terror and all that kind of thing.
And she was fearless about that.
She was absolutely fearless.
And I understand that she's had some problems.
Her presidential campaign finance thing is being investigated because that's just the way it is in America.
She'll be tied up for years as they go through all her records for her 2012 presidential campaign.
But certain other people, Malik Obama and the Barack H. Obama Foundation, they don't have to worry about any of that.
It's odd the strange selectiveness of this stuff.
So she's going to be tied up with that and digging out from under that.
Something that Eric Holder doesn't have to fear, something that Lois Lerner doesn't have to fear, something that President Obama doesn't have to fear.
But she was a fearless, articulate spokesperson for a genuine conservative vision.
And sooner or later, I mean, people said, oh, she got this wrong, she got that wrong.
Do you ever see Mrs. Thatcher, circa 1977, 1976?
She got a lot of stuff wrong, too.
And at the very, that's what, that's what Michelle Buckman offered.
She could have been America's Mrs. Thatcher, and at worst, she would have been America's Ankola Merkel from Germany.
But she would have been a lot better than most of the alternatives on either side of the aisle.
And I don't know why.
I don't know why the United States has lagged behind other developed nations in having a female leader.
But I know that when come the grim day that we do get a female leader, it will be some squishy, left-wing, hardcore feminist type rather than the kind of female leadership this country would benefit from.
And as I said, at her best, she could have been America's Thatcher.
So I deeply regret that Michelle Bachman will not be in the House come two years' time.
But I definitely hope this isn't the last week.
Also, the other thing is, I think I was, I'm kind of sweet on her, too, because I think she looks fabulous as well.
And that never hurts.
But I shouldn't have said that.
I just ruined it.
But she does.
I tell you, since I've just ruined it, I'll tell you something.
I was in at Fox.
I shouldn't be saying this.
So pretend this is just off the air, but I'm just saying it quietly to HR with the guys in the control.
But I went and do a television thing at Fox, and she happened to be there in the green room.
And she looked absolutely fabulous.
She looked absolutely fabulous.
And she'd just sort of come in in a sweatshirt and everything, and she hadn't sort of changed yet.
She just had no makeup on and everything.
She looked terrific.
And then she went into makeup and got into her four-wall dress and everything.
I thought she looked actually much better the way she was.
She was just like in her sweatshirt and everything, unmade up, just like yakking it up in the green room.
But no, Michelle Buckman has been an absolutely fearless, articulate spoke.
You compare someone like her.
I was talking about Lincoln Chaffee just now.
Lincoln Chaffee has just broken the news to the stunned citizens of Rhode Island that he is, after all this time where we've thought of him as a solid red meat Republican and then a tough maverick independent and all that, that he is in fact just a Democrat and he's signing up and joining the Democratic Party.
And if you compare someone like Lincoln Chaffee, a man who believes in nothing, a jellyfish, a jelly-spined, nothing, finger-in-the-windy guy who makes no contribution to public discourse whatsoever, and then you compare that to someone like Michelle Buckman, who people go bananas over, people go nuts over, because she stands up there.
And I don't know whether it is a misogynist streak on the left.
You don't have to scratch very deeply.
I mean, what is interesting about the left is it's all identity politics.
If you're not a certain kind of black man, you're not black.
So Clarence Thomas isn't black.
And Condi Rice isn't a black woman.
And if you're a certain kind of woman, you're not really a female.
Sarah Palin isn't a female.
Because for them, that R after the name, the Republican or the Conservative, squashes everything else.
And so the viciousness and the viciousness that is directed by the misogynist left at someone like Michelle Buckman is absolutely astonishing.
It requires actually quite a lot to sit there and take it week in week out.
And she has been a tough, articulate spokesperson for a coherent vision of full-spectrum conservatism.
You don't have to worry about her not connecting all the working parts together for full-spectrum conservatism.
And I mourn her loss from the scene.
And I don't know.
I mean, it looks like this is going to be one of those seats that the Democrats are in with a shot at winning and would like to win and all the rest of it.
But I hope that if it does stay in Republican hands, that stays in the hands of a principled Republican arguing for a genuine conservative vision.
Mark Stein in Farush, we are talking about the decay of this country into a banana republic.
I see the New York Parks Department, New York City Parks Department.
You may be wondering if you're like a casual seasonal worker, how you then land a full-time job.
They hired a lot of seasonal, casual female workers.
And the way they'd upgrade them to a full-time salaried job, this was reported in the New York Daily News today, is they would take them down to the boom boom room in the basement of the Parks Department facility on Randall's Island and invite them to get on the stripper poll that they had down there.
Ten men from the Parks Department would watch the Female City seasonal casual employees in their bras and panties, cavorting round the stripper pole, and they would say to them, You want us to give you money, show us something.
So, in other words, to get a full-time, if you're a woman, to get a full-time job.
By the way, this is a Democratic city where everybody in the New York City Parks Department is a Democrat, is a Democrat.
So, this doesn't count as part of the Republican war on women.
You know, if like, if I mean, we all know these parties go on at Mitt Romney's house all the time.
Mitt Romney has got the stripper pole down in his basement because the Republicans wage the war on women relentlessly.
And they go out there and they find these women and they make them dance around the stripper pole at Republican Party headquarters.
But this is going on in a Democratic fiefdom in the boom boom room, the so-called boom-boom room of the basement of the New York City Parks Department on Randall's Island.
If you want our money, if you want to get a job, you got to show us something.
And then the ladies had to strip down to their bra and panties and dance around the stripper pole.
And that's how you're so if you're one of these tea party groups and you're wondering what it would take for the IRS office in Cincinnati to maybe fast-track your tax-exempt status, maybe you need to actually go to the Cincinnati office, meet with the IRS agent, let him take you down to the boom boom room at the IRS headquarters at Cincinnati and strip down to your bra and panties or your boxes if you're a guy.
Who knows?
You know, we don't want to be homophobic or whatever here.
And that's maybe the way to get your tax exempt status fast-tracked.
That's Public Service in America, the boom boom room in the basement of the New York City Parks Department.
Mark Stein for Rush, more straight ahead.
Mark Stein for Rush on the EIB network.
Let's go to Jesse in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Jesse, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Great to have you with us.
Hey, thanks, Mark.
I want to thank you for doing such a great job.
You have me cracking up with your opening.
I haven't laughed so hard for a long time.
It's not funny.
It's a tragedy.
You're supposed to be.
It's the collapse of the Republic.
The laugh's on us if it is a laugh.
That's the problem, Jesse.
Well, it's sort of like playing the violin, I guess, while the Titanic goes down.
At least you can enjoy yourself.
But, hey, the reason I wanted to call you is because I run a 501c3 here in Amish Country, and so all of my IRS mail comes through the Cincinnati office.
And when I'm hearing these stories of the trips, I can really identify with it.
So I just thought I'd share a bit of my experience with what it was like for us to get a 501c3.
And we run an animal rescue organization.
We're not partisan, so we're not caught up in that whole tea party scandal.
But we certainly dealt with not corruption or partisan problems, but we just dealt with the normal incompetence.
And I think what is missing here is we're getting so sidetracked by the corruption and the partisan nature of the IRS, we're kind of missing the fact that it's incompetence on display.
And these are the folks that are supposed to be in charge of our health care.
Yeah, which I think is the point I was trying to make in the last hour: that the bigger government gets, the more government does, the more you're depending on the discretion and sophistication and judgment of bureaucrats.
And for the most part, bureaucrats are not that good to be put in charge of large areas of your life.
I mean, that's basically the experience you had.
Well, and you use the word judgment, and that's so important.
You also mentioned IRS agents.
You talk to 10 different agents, you get 10 different answers.
And people might be kind of shocked to find out when you're dealing with the IRS on normal business issues, they don't use email.
They don't allow email, or at least in our experience, which was just a few years ago when we got 51c3, they didn't do email.
They said they didn't have email.
And can you imagine any organization or agency or business that doesn't have email today, but they don't want to have a paper trail?
And so when they would ask us normal questions, or rather, I would ask them normal questions like, you know, where do we do school assemblies for nature programs?
Or we try to answer normal questions about the nature of our stuff, saying what's allowed, what's not allowed.
It was obvious like I was shooting from the hip.
It was obvious the guy didn't want to put stuff in writing.
And so there was no email for any of these answers.
And then when we wanted to get a hold of them, in our experience, it took over a year to get this accomplished, but we called them dozens of times.
And every time we called them, it would go to voicemail.
We wouldn't get a call back the same day.
If we're lucky, we'd get a call back the next day.
And then finally, towards the end of this process, I actually called one time and the agent answered his phone.
This was the agent working on our case's direct line.
He answered the phone, and it actually shocked me because I wasn't ready to hear a person on the other end.
No, and you know, there's a reason why they do.
As you say, they don't want to leave a paper trail.
But I mean, that's my limited experience with the IRS and with other government agencies.
That's actually very common.
They're very reluctant.
You can't just say to them, oh, hey, yeah, okay, shoot me an email about it.
They want it to be on a conversation, and they're quite happy to have it in the record, you know, they phoned you at 2.27 p.m. or whatever.
But they generally have an aversion to having nice, clear, crisply written communication between you and them.
Their preference is for them, in case they do decide to send the SWAT team in to shoot you, that they want to be able to put their interpretation of events on it.
So they prefer to have a phone conversation and then write up a minute about it, as they say.
And certain questions that came up, you know, he was saying, well, you're welcome to argue that, but I think you would lose.
And so, you know, there's obviously a lot of stuff that was up for debate.
And in my experience, several of my reptile rescue colleagues that run similar nonprofit organizations, they have not even applied for 51c3, or they have applied and they've rescinded their 51c3 because it is so difficult to get service.
And so when you hear liberals talking about we cannot have any sort of regulations on abortion because they're afraid people are going to end up having these dangerous backroom abortions because it'll be so hard to get service, I think, well, now the IRS is running our whole health care.
We have people that are afraid to apply for their nonprofit status because the service is so bad they say, well, I'd rather just go without it.
What's going to happen to our health care service when we have this kind of incompetence on display?
Is it going to take over a year?
That's a great point, Jesse.
I've got to run.
I will take up that point when we return on the Rush Limbaugh show in just a moment.
Mark Stein, Infra Rush.
Doug Arbanski will be here tomorrow.
And don't forget, Rush returns live on EIB next week.
Hey, great to be with you.
Rush has taken a few days off, but he will return next week.
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They got it all in whatever format you want.
I want to go back to what Jesse, by the way, was saying from Pennsylvania where he said the people now, these people now are going to be in charge of Obamacare.
IRS is the most important government agency involved in Obamacare.
The first thing, once Obamacare passed, the first thing they did was hire 16,000 new people.
Not doctors, not nurses, not hospital janitors.
They hired 16,000 new IRS agents, the biggest expansion of the IRS since the Second World War, who are there to check now that your healthcare arrangements are in compliance with the IRS.
In other words, the same kind of mentality, the same kind of government bureaucrats who think there's nothing wrong in asking you what books you've been reading, like the lady, the Tea Party group, they demanded to know what books her group was reading, and she sent back a copy of the United States Constitution.
The same kind of people who are in charge of that, the same kind of people who ask whether any of your relatives are thinking of running for office, are now going to be in charge of your hernia and your prostate and all the rest of it.
And even if you don't think they're corrupt, if you accept the fact that this is all just poor customer service, as Lois Lohener put it, you better get ready for some seriously poor customer service when they're in charge of Obamacare and they decide that they don't like your particular political group.
And instead of leaking your tax details to ProPublica, the George Soros group that they leaked this stuff to, the IRS leaked people's tax details to ProPublica, George Soros-funded group.
They're going to be leaking details of your healthcare arrangements to ProPublica.
So if you happen to fall out of favor with them and they see your health records and you happen to have some warts in an embarrassing place, look for that to appear at George Soros' group, ProPublica.
That's the kind of people.
By the way, do you know what we need?
I say this every so often on this show.
We need an alliance of non-compliance.
That is what America needs.
Americans are not physically fearful.
I'll explain this carefully, because as a foreigner, you might get insulted.
You might be insulted hearing this from a foreigner.
So feel free to beat me up.
Feel free to jump me in the alley.
Feel free to club me to a pulp if I happen to be a person through your town.
So I'm going to try and phrase it carefully, though.
Americans are not physically fearful.
In other words, if some guy pulls some stuff in a parking lot or a shopping mall, Americans will show great physical courage in tackling that guy, bringing him down.
We see that sometimes in extreme circumstances, like with those guys on Flight 92 on September the 11th, when the government wasn't up there with them, and they had to act, and they acted decisively in the best tradition of personal American courage.
But one of the things that disturbs me as an immigrant is that far too many Americans are fearful of their government, are fearful of their government.
That's why when they got inquiries from the IRS, a lot of these Tea Party groups actually went quiet.
People started writing articles about it.
Oh, the Tea Party has peaked.
We didn't hear from the Tea Party.
As Rush was saying yesterday, this isn't Like Nixon, trying to get the IRS to try to lean on his enemies.
This time, the IRS leaned on its perceived enemies and were successful.
A lot of them went quiet.
A lot of them got out, you know, just sort of kept everything on hold.
They understood they were under the scrutiny.
Now, this is a revenue collection agency.
These are guys with green eyeshades.
They're government bureaucrats.
You should not be fearful of government bureaucrats.
And one of the reasons people are fearful about them, of course, is that as with the Gibson guitars thing.
By the way, just in case you weren't following this about Gibson guitars, Gibson guitars were believed to have broken some one century year old law about the importation of a particularly rare and valuable kind of wood to use in their guitar.
And there's basically this wood comes from Madagascar and India.
Now, the government of Madagascar, they had paperwork from the government of Madagascar saying all this wood is compliant with the laws of Madagascar.
They haven't broken any laws here.
This wood is good to go.
This wood is good to go in the guitars, so they can sell it to caterwalling rockers to play their guitar solos when you go to see them on stage.
And nevertheless, because the guy who runs Gibson guitars had made a $2,000 donation to Marsha Blackburn, who's a terrific Republican congresswoman, and a few other people, these guys send SWAT teams.
They send guys in combat gear to investigate a guitar manufacturer.
Because as we all know, as we all know, guitar manufacturers are second only to Chechen and Dagestani guys with pressure cookers in the threat they are to public security.
So they send a SWAT team in to storm the Gibson guitars factory.
This is absolutely ridiculous.
Every government agency in this country has a paramilitary unit.
The Department of Education doesn't employ a single teacher, but it has a SWAT team.
They send it to kick down the door of some guy in California when his college loan was laid.
So one of the disturbing aspects, and again, I say this as an immigrant who loves this country, but observes something that I do not think is healthy, and that is that Americans are fearful of the bureaucracy.
And they should not be.
They should not be fearful of the bureaucracy.
You should stand up to them.
Do you know what?
This woman, Lois Lerner, she is on paid administrative leave.
This is a woman who took the fifth, who pleaded the fifth in front of Congress, who made a statement and then declined to answer any questions.
She shouldn't have been allowed to get away with that, by the way.
You don't make the statement, which brings up this and brings up that, and then say you're not going to answer questions on it.
In any normal understanding of a court of law, once you have introduced those topics, you're allowed to be questioned on them.
So she shouldn't have been allowed to take the fifth, and the Republicans were foolish to let her get away with that.
And they should call her back and say that in effect she renounced her Fifth Amendment rights when she did that.
But she isn't out of a job or anything.
She's not a private citizen.
She still is the government of the United States.
In effect, the government of the United States took the Fifth Amendment and got away with it.
So Lois Lerner then sends a memo out to the people in her department to say, I'm going to be at home for a few days until all this blows over.
So she's temporarily stepped aside and she's on paid administrative leave.
So she is getting $288,000 a year from you to sit at home and do nothing and cock a snook at Congress by taking the Fifth Amendment and all the rest of it.
This is something that the American people will, you know, all those hippie folk singers in the 60s used to say they were conscientious objectors and they would withhold the proportion of their taxes that they thought was going to go to the Pentagon or whatever.
People should withhold from their taxes the proportion that they are paying for Lois Learner's salary, whatever it is.
It's not a lot when you're divided between 300 million people.
It's just a few pennies.
But you ought to take it off just to teach, just to show these guys that you're insulted.
When the tax collector, when the tax collector, when the tax collection agency is corrupt, everything is corrupt.
So you ought to take that seriously.
And if you don't want to take off your share of Lois Lerner's $288,000, then let's do this.
Let's learn from Lois Lerner in this respect.
Lois Lerner basically stood there.
She sat there in Congress and she said, I have done nothing wrong.
Those were her words.
I have done nothing wrong.
And I'm not going to say anything else.
We should chisel that in granite.
And the next time you get a query from the IRS agent asking for your Facebook post or, you know, just asking if you've got the receipt for whatever it was you claim for back in 2007, you should just say, in the immortal words of Lois Lerner of the Internal Revenue Service, I have done nothing wrong, and that's all I'm going to say.
And every citizen should adopt the Lois Lerner defense in their dealings with the IRS until they are overhauled from top to bottom and the office of King's Tax Collector is restored to some kind of integrity because that's as basic a government function as anything.
Mark signing for Rush.
We'll take more of your calls straight ahead.
Hey, Mark Stein on the EIB Network.
Rush is taking a few days off, but he will be back next week.
Let's go to JD in Dryden, New York.
JD, great to have you with us on the show.
Thank you.
Do you know who Emerge America is?
They're a, I know they're one of these progressive groups that is supposedly trained candidates for office.
I think they only train Democrats, though.
And they were the only group denied tax-exempt status.
So, and guess what?
They're a liberal group.
Interesting.
And the law itself is the issue.
It's not what was done with it.
The law itself said the 501c4 was exclusively for groups that did social welfare.
Not political groups on either side.
So the law is not being upheld.
It's very confusing.
And no one is after the Tea Party.
What do you mean no one's after the Tea Party?
Hey, J.D., let's go after the Tea Party.
Hey, J.D. After Citizens United was passed, the IRS was not.
No, it's nothing to do with it.
It's nothing to do with citizens.
Now, I'll give you this, JD.
I'll give you this, right?
It's stupid, right?
To have a system.
No, no, just, I'm about to agree with you, J.D.
No, no, it is.
That is stupid.
I'm not saying, I'm not sure what you're saying.
It's stupid.
I'm saying that the whole 501c3, 501c4 thing, that whole, the idea of auditioning to the government to be given non-profit status to the degree that occurs in America is ridiculous.
Now, why do you think we have it?
Why do we have it?
To encourage people to give to charity with the original intention.
No, we don't have it.
No, we don't have it for that.
I'll tell you why we have it.
It's because the United States has the highest rate of corporate tax in the world.
They only pay 60% tax.
I'm aware of that.
And they've just hired Obama's environmental protection person, the former head of the EPA of Obama's EPA, has now gone to work for Apple.
I want Apple to pay taxes.
But you know why Apple don't pay taxes?
Because we have lawyers who get them out of it.
Yes, yes, you're ahead of me, J.D. Do you want a prize?
We can give you, you know, we can give you the Chevy Vault.
It'll be charged and waiting for you.
My grandfather was in the British Navy outside your home in Dryden, New York.
Most civilized countries have corporate tax rates significant.
We're not talking about right-wing loony countries.
We're talking about, say, Ireland, Ireland where the corporate tax rate is 12%.
Canada, which is nobody's idea of a right-wing nut bar country.
Corporate tax rate is basically heading for, is basically half of what it is in the United States.
So the fact of the matter is that when you have, if you make more than $50,000 profit in the United States, you're paying 35% corporate tax rate.
No corporations want to do that, which is why real corporations like Apple do the old double Dutch with an Irish sandwich or whatever you call it, where you root it from an Irish subsidiary through your Dutch subsidiary, through your Bermuda subsidiary, through your Cayman Islands subsidiary and your Nevis subsidiary, which is what everybody who can't avoid who is a real corporation do.
And at the other side of the ledger, everybody else now wants to be a non-profit.
The whole, if you go and talk, I don't what part of New York Dryden is in, but you board of Vermont.
If you go into the state of Vermont, everybody in Vermont, if you go to a college, if you go to the University of Vermont, if you go to any college in Vermont, if you go to Middlebury, if you go to any of these colleges and you talk to the students and you say, well, what would you like to do when you leave college?
Oh, I'd like to work for a non-profit.
Everybody wants to work for a non-profit.
Vermont itself is a non-profit.
America is the biggest non-profit in history.
It's $20 trillion in debt.
You can't get more non-profit than that.
And so one consequence of that is we say, okay, we tax everything, but if you're nice to us, if you check this box and you check that box, we'll give a little bit of it back to you, JD.
And you're right.
That's ridiculous.
That shouldn't happen.
But you know what's wrong?
Is that the law and Lois Learner, as she has testified, and as all these other people have testified, is they checked only one half of the applicants.
Now, you found this one group, the main branch of Emerge America, which got its status denied.
I don't know why, but everybody else.
And they're a liberal group.
I'm just saying.
I know everybody's crying about the poor tea party.
The liberals were the ones that got rejected.
No, one little liberal group, all the other people, all the other people, all the other people who've been in IRS hell for years are on the concern.
Now, look here, look, JD, you don't agree with me.
Here's another thing I'll throw at you.
The United States government hires people according to affirmative action criteria.
In other words, if you apply to build the IRS office in Cincinnati, whether or not they'll hire you to pour the foundation and frame the building and do the sheetrocking and all the rest of it, they'll treat you differently according to whether you're African American or you're Hispanic or you're a Pacific Islander or whatever.
So in other words, they've gotten used to treating people differently.
And they've advanced from treating people differently in the apartheid sense on the basis of skin colour, which is what they do when they hire someone to build the IRS office.
They're now treating people differently on ideological grounds.
Are you comfortable with that, JD?
I don't know if it's true.
I'll have to do some research.
Well, it's not difficult.
Lois Lerner is on TV.
The Milt, what's he called?
Douglas Schulman, the commissioner of the IRS, is there.
The Inspector General was there.
It's all out there.
All you have to do, you don't have to research it.
Just Google IRS Targeting Tea Party.
Very easy, JD.
Thanks for your call.
More straight ahead.
Mark Stein in for Rush on the EIB network.
By the way, that was one branch of Emerge America that got denied.
It was the main branch of Emerge America.
And the advantage of getting denied is that you can instantly appeal.
The problem is when you're in government, in government, when the bureaucracy, the process is the punishment.
The process is the punishment.
You can't appeal when you're pending.
So if they can keep you pending for three years, they basically, as Rush was talking about yesterday, they've taken you out of the game.
In government, the process is the punishment.
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