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May 29, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 29, 2013, Wednesday, Hour #3
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Yes, America's Anger Man is away, and this is your undocumented Anger Man sitting in, no supporting paperwork whatsoever.
Uh Rush is uh taking a few days off and uh deservedly so he's been uh he's been working hard at it uh pretty much since the election, and uh Doug Urbansky, Mr. Hollywood, is gonna be doing the show live tomorrow and Friday.
He'll be poolside.
The Starletts will not be joining him in the pool until the third hour.
He called in to explain that to me.
Uh but he will be here Thursday.
In the meantime, this is Mark Stein live from Ice Station EIB uh in the in the hot tub we have here.
It's uh the hot tub is what is it?
It's about it's up to about forty-two degrees now, which is pretty balmy for New Hampshire.
And uh there's no Starlets in the hot tub with me.
I think the nearest Starlet to New Hampshire is uh I don't know how many states you'd have to go.
But anyway, there's uh Doug will be uh joining the Hollywood Starlets in the pool uh for the Rushlingbore show live Thursday and Friday.
When the last time I was here was the day of the Boston Marathon manhunt, when um the younger Sina brother ran over the older Sinayov brother while they were plotting their getaway.
Don't you hate it when that happens?
When you're going when you leap into the car and you go, uh come on, Tamilan, jump in the passenger seat, we gotta get out of here.
And then you put the car into reverse and you hear a vague thump but you don't think anything of it.
Don't you just hate it when that happens?
Uh anyway, that was uh that was the last time I was here, and the la and I think the time before that was it the time before that I was here for actually inaugural day.
So I always seem to be here uh when there's like big breaking uh big breaking live news days.
But uh today we can be more discussive and philosophical as we've been talking about the nature of uh government and in particular the nature of the federal bureaucracy.
I'll come to I'll come back to that m in uh in a moment.
Some somebody uh every time I do the show, I always get these emails after the show saying uh d if you're ever when you're on the show and if you're why don't you tell us if you're ever gonna be live, because I'm always like to know if you're gonna be in my state, so do tell us where you're gonna be.
Uh and so I thought I would.
Tomorrow I'm gonna be at my uh son's uh band concert.
Uh he's he's uh he's playing the uh he's playing Chattanooga choocheo, and you're welcome to come along.
It's not great to be honest.
It's okay.
Come on, he's a kid, give him a break.
Uh but you're welcome to Cabalogue, and uh and uh uh that's uh that's why I'm gonna be doing tomorrow.
But uh in a uh more meaningful sense, I will be talking about the nexus of uh welfare the welfare state terrorism and many other things in Stoughton, Massachusetts at the Ahavath Torah Synagogue, which is there on Central Street in Stoughton, Massachusetts.
And if you live in Rhode Island, uh that's next Wednesday, uh June the June the fifth, and uh if you go to my website, I think we got details of that.
But if you if you uh fleeing Rhode Island from Lin now that Lincoln Chafee has done the Ricky Martin and uh taken uh ten years to come out as a Democrat.
Uh if you're fleeing Lincoln Chafee's Rhode Island, I believe Stoughton, Massachusetts is actually just a stones throw from uh Rhode Island.
I know why I keep uh saying stones throw today.
I've been following those Swedish riots too closely, but it is very near to the Rhode Island border.
So if you're if uh you're a Rhode Island Rush listener fleeing Lincoln Chafee, uh I'd love to see you there.
That's uh a week today, June fifth in Stoughton, uh Massachusetts.
I want to go back to the we've been talking about Eric Holder today.
Uh and uh we that's how we that's how we came in.
Uh Eric Holder, who personally signed off on these warrants uh to to to uh get uh James Rosen and Fox News.
Eric Holder, who said of the Associated Press Leak that it was the one of the three most serious leaks he's known in the forty years he's been a prosecutor, and yet doesn't bring it to the President's attention, right?
It's not something the President needs to know.
It's one of the top three uh national security leaks of the last four decades, but he says he didn't bring it to the President's attention.
We have uh a a situation where Douglas Shulman, you'll recall, said he went to the White House uh what was it, a hundred and eighty times an estimated hundred and eighty times.
Douglas Shulman, the commissioner of the IRS, was summoned to the White House, went to the White House a hundred and eighty times.
He was asked what it was that he was going to the White House for all that time.
And you remember he gave the facetious answer that he was there for the Easter egg the Easter egg roll.
So he's there in other words, they've he's that that explains one of the hundred and eighteen times he was at the White House, but it doesn't explain the other hundred and seventeen unless they're doing more Easter egg hunts than we had.
Now he is not He's n he is not a policy man.
He's he's a he's supposed to be a civil servant who implements policy.
Why is he at the White House?
Why is the commissioner of the IRS at the White House one hundred and twenty times in two thousand ten and twenty eleven.
That's sixty times a year.
That's more than once a week.
I'd be fascinated.
I'd be f and somebody could do this 'cause I think the logs are out, the White House visitors logs are out there.
I'd be fascinating I'd be fascinated to know how often this supposedly nonpolitical civil servant commissioner of the IRS who who has no supposedly is no role in policy making why he gets to visit the White House a hundred and eighteen times.
Is that more, for example, than the Secretary of Defense visited the White House in that period?
Is that more than the director of the CIA visited the White House in that period?
You know, there's a lot of talk about where was Obama on the night of Benghazi.
From from from the Douglas Shulman's testimony to Congress, it looks like Obama the likelihood is that Obama was mysteriously meeting with Douglas Shulman, Commissioner of the IRS yet again for one of those sixty visits a year that Douglas Shulman, Commissioner of the RS, makes to the Obama White House.
Now the Washington Examiner reported on Monday This was Shulman's predecessor.
Mark Everson was commissioner of Internal Revenue for the government of the United States from 2003 to 2007.
And do you know how often he visited the White House in that time?
Don't take a while guess.
Take a while guess.
Douglas Shulman visited the White House the Obama White House sixty times a year.
The guy the the s the the squirmy little dweeb who succeeded him, Stephen Miller, also visited numerous times, can't recall how many Douglas Shulman sixty times a year.
Do you know how many times his predecessor Mark Everson visited the Bush White House between two thousand three and two thousand seven?
Just once something doesn't smell right here it's not in fact it's beyond that.
It smells it's it smells toxic.
If you can't get the smell of this, this is a guy who should not in the normal course of events would be expected to have no FaceTime with the president except at the White House Christmas party.
That's it.
That's it.
He is he reports to the Treasury Secretary but unlike the Treasury Secretary he is not charged with making policy.
He is there to implement policy.
He is there to implement the laws impartially why was Douglas Shulman commissioner of the IRS visiting the White House sixty times a year one hundred and eighteen times one hundred and eighteen times he visited the White House in 2010 and 2011 Mark Everson in the same in the same period while this guy Douglas Shulman averaged sixty visits a year to the White House,
Mark Everson managed an average one quarter of one visit a year in the White House, his predecessor this is this is this is serious corruption here.
And whatever you know whatever the nice lady from Dryden New York says about it if you're not if you're not concerned about this, if you don't understand how dangerous it is because you know she's nobody the lady from Dryden New York she's a pleasant enough lady but she doesn't have the inside ear of of Washington this is this is decaying into a crony state it's it's like it's not the kind of totalitarianism,
ideological totalitarianism they have in the in the Soviet Union or in North Korea or anything like that.
It's like the the worst kind of crony banana republic.
It's not what you know, it's who you know.
There are no laws.
The laws don't matter.
Uh subclause twenty-seven section three D, paragraph four of the tax code doesn't matter.
One matters is whose phone number you have in your Rolidex.
Who can you call uh to get the problem to go away?
Who can you call to get the Obamacare opt-out?
Who can you call to get the exemption?
And if you know someone inside this little circle, this little closed circle, who can do you the right kind of favor, then you're okay.
Everybody else, you're just you're just on the receiving end of all this stuff.
The Commissioner of Internal Revenue visiting the White House sixty times a year, what for?
What for?
And if you're a liberal like that lady in Dryden, New York, I love talking to liberals on this show.
Call me up.
1800-282-2882.
Because I say this stinks, and if you've got to if you want to give me an explanation of how this is normal, I can tell you something else.
The uh the uh the head of Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs in London does not make sixty visits to ten Downing Street to see David Cameron a year.
The head of the uh equivalent agency in Canada does not make sixty visits a year to visit Stephen Harper, the Prime Minister of Canada.
Uh the head of even in France, where they've just introduced some stupid seventy-five percent uh top tax not on income but on wealth, so some people are actually paying more than hundred percent of their income in taxes.
They just introduce that for everybody.
It doesn't matter whether you're left wing, whether you're right wing.
Left wing actors like uh Gerard DePedier flee to Belgium because it affects everybody.
Uh because the Commissioner of Revenue in Paris is not going into the Elise Palace to see pr Monsieur Le President Hollande sixty times a year.
In a in a free society where we are equal before the law, there is no reason for the tax collector, for the national tax collector to be going in to see the president of the United States sixty times in the course of the year.
And by the way, I saw some uh you know Republican this and Republicans that from Congress and whatnot talking about this on the TV shows uh last night.
They're not mad enough about this.
They don't they seem to think it's just one of those, you know, Washington scandals.
You do it's like it's like Ben Ghazi.
You call a few people before the committee, you uh you there's some talking about an independent council, whatever, and you know, what did he know and when did he know and blah blah blah, and after six months everybody gets bored and it all dribbles out and it goes nowhere.
This is not, this is something rotten and diseased at the heart of American government.
If you have a good explanation as to why the Commissioner of Internal Revenue is visiting the White House sixty times a year, more than once a week, uh call me up and let me know, because I can think of no good reason.
1-800-282-2882.
Mark Stein in for Rush.
Breaking news uh from Harry Reid.
Harry Reid says uh getting sixty votes for amnesty is quote, pretty easy.
Uh he's not worried about it at all.
Uh he thinks they'll uh they'll cross that threshold uh in moments.
Uh although it would all be very different, wouldn't it, if they put Lois Lerner in chance in charge of uh scrutinizing every undocumented aliens immigration application.
Rush was talking about this yesterday.
Uh and basically uh if if this amnesty goes through on the term by the way, it's n it will no longer be about illegal immigration then.
Uh just in terms of the chain migration deriving from the people who will be uh the people who will be given legal settlement rights and their immediate family and the chain migration that follows from them, which is a big part of the problem in the American immigration system.
Uh it will be about fifty-five million people.
New people, new uh eventually new citizens, because nothing they say about holding up people's right to citizenship is going to pass judicial muster.
None of that will, so forget about that.
Uh nobody's gonna have two-tier citizenship here.
That'll come before its first judge and that'll be all struck down.
So fifty-five million fifty-five million new legal immigrants to the United States who will be eventually in the voting booths, and we all know which party they're gonna be voting for, because they'll be so grateful to the Republican Party uh for creating the circumstances by which fifty-five million people can come into the country, they will all be voting Republican intros.
Yay, amnesty, as Rush was talking about uh yesterday.
Let's go to Jay in Stillwater, Maine.
Uh Jay, you're live on the Rush Slimboshow.
I think uh uh Jay is Stillwater's uh sort of inland and just north of Bar Harbor.
That that's the one.
Yeah, that's right, uh Mark.
The last time I talked, uh we we talked about the fact that I spent my college summers shoveling uh steaming hot lobsters into the laps of tourists and so in any effect I I just want to uh I want to mention that uh your articles on uh National View between your weekend articles and your blogs on the corner are a feast of absolute prescience and acuity and delicious cynicism, and I look forward to reading every one of them.
I just love to see your byline because I always know I'm gonna I'm gonna just uh get a tickle out of reading what you have to write on that on that wonderful website.
Well, my editor will be very relieved to hear that, because it's always a gamble when you when you outsource it to cheap uh cheap uh foreign labor that will work for less than minimum wage as to whether you know you say your savings are gonna be.
So the reason I called, of course, was I was interested in your prescience, you know, because Because your you know your ability to kind of see what's coming down the road.
We've heard from Dr. Krothammer um that uh you know Obama is definitely gonna have to fuss up as to where he was the night of Benghazi.
And we've heard from um from other folks like Chris Matthews that this is nothing more than uh a kerfuffle to use James Taranto's favorite word.
Um Rush saying that there's no way we're going to impeach a a black uh president or or a black uh interior general.
I'm just uh I'm I'm very interested to hear uh your perspective.
I mean, where do you see this going in the next weeks and months?
Yeah, you know, I don't I think uh Charles Crowdhammer may be wrong on that.
I think we may never actually know where Obama was the night of Benghazi.
And this is fascinating because uh generally speaking, there are records of everything somewhere in the United States uh for everybody now.
It's not a it's ever less a society with any privacy.
I mean, then that includes elected officials.
Basically, everybody knows it's it's an open secret that every Friday afternoon, every Friday lunchtime, uh Mayor Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, the big nanny of New York, gets in his private jet and flies to Bermuda, and then he comes back uh late on Sunday night.
Everybody knows that.
But Obama is a fascinating character.
No there's all kinds of gaps in his life that nobody knows a thing about, which is pretty amazing when you consider all the autobiographies he's written.
The more autobiographies he writes, the less anyone knows about him.
And I can well see this coming down to years from now, he'll be writing his memoirs, and he'll write, you know, volume twelve, the Benghazi years uh of his presidential memoirs, and we still will have no idea where he is, what's he doing, uh who's he talking to uh that night, that night in Bed Ghazi.
Now now I thought Rush was right.
There's no there's no way they're gonna they're gonna um uh they're gonna impeach the first African American president.
Same with uh Eric Holder.
Eric Holder, the first black uh attorney general.
The minute there was any the minute there's any serious move to demand he stepped down, the race card's gonna be played on uh the race card's gonna be played on that too.
It's one of the most depressing things about this whole situation.
I mean, I I can't even I can't even bother discussing the racist thing with Obama anymore.
The f the fact is, even if everybody's racist, he's the president.
And so he still has to be accountable.
Even if there's even if all three hundred million of his subjects are racist, uh he's still the president, and he is judged on that.
You know, so the the answer to accusations of racism, the best answer to accusations of racism is yeah, yeah.
Uh ever uh everybody's racist and you're still the president.
And it's the same the same thing here with Eric Holder.
And I think Eric Holder is a more difficult game because he's basically been happy to be Obama's thug enforcer for the last four years.
Um and he is and he's been very successful in that role.
And I think it would be seen as a defeat for Obama uh if he were to be made to walk the plank.
And I I think in that sense that's why he's uh he's relatively relaxed about the way this will play out.
But as to whether we'll ever know where Obama was the night of Benghazi or anything like that, Jay.
I think I think I can I think Charles Crowhammer is wrong.
Uh the vast gaps in Obama's uh biography are only getting bigger and more mysterious, which is absolutely amazing because the presidency of the United States is supposed to be a fishbowl.
And yet uh when Obama's in the fish bowl, nobody can see a thing that's going on in there.
Mark Stein in for Rush, more to come.
Yes, Rush is uh taking a few days off a well deserved rest.
Doug Urbanski uh will be here to take you through the end of the week, and then uh I'll be here uh Monday.
Is that right, HR?
Monday and two uh Monday and Tuesday and Rush and Rush is back Wednesday.
Is that right?
Okay.
I just want to make sure I get it all.
I didn't get the memo.
Uh Rush returns uh live next Wednesday.
So Doug uh will be here to take you through the end of the week.
Uh I'll be back at the beginning of the week, and then Rush is back behind the golden EIB microphone live for full strength excellence in broadcasting Wednesday at twelve Eastern, nine Pacific.
You know, we were talking about Eric Holder and uh uh this uh the the situation he finds himself in.
Uh he's he's just this is what you gotta love about the guy.
He's like he's he was just been at an award ceremony for employees of the Justice Department's Inspector General.
These are the guys who investigate all Eric Holder's messes.
And he went there.
They are the equivalent of uh what they used what uh in uh the mi uh in the uh in medieval times they used to call the groom of the stool.
These guys, the employees of the Justice Department's Inspector General, are basically the grooms of Eric Holder's stool.
He's out there, he's handing out awards to them.
Uh they're they're they're getting it they're getting awards for all the great investigative stuff they're doing into all these mistakes.
I urge you to keep up the great work, Holder said, apparently sincerely, at an award ceremony for the staff of the Inspector General.
You have helped ensure this department can fulfil its essential mission missions with integrity.
This is from Politico.
Uh then this is fabulous, this next sentence.
Quote Saying he needed to attend a briefing on another subject, Holder ducked out just after giving his short short speech.
As a result, he wasn't on hand when eleven OIG staffers got awards for their work on a four hundred and seventy-one page report on Fast and Furious.
That's amazing, isn't it?
Jim do you know something?
I I know this is I know everybody loves awards, and I get I get that, you know, you can never go wrong with award ceremonies.
You've got your Oscars, you got your Tonies, you got your Emmys, you got your Golden Globes.
Everybody loves award ceremonies.
But you know, when they're actually handing out award ceremonies to give to government investigators for scandals about which nothing is done.
I think you've gone an award ceremony too far.
Is this uh was Seth MacFarlane hosting this on TV last night?
Did I did I miss it?
Did was everyone out there in the whole black tie gig and they were having uh the big song and dance about it uh live from the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion or whatever it is.
The eleven staff has got awards for their work on a four hundred and seventy-one page report on Fast and Furious.
Hey, isn't that great?
And the winner for the best report on Fast and Furious is Fred Schmoe from the Department of Justice.
Coming up here, Fred.
Bad bump bada bum bum.
So they give out awards for the investigative work on Fast and Furious.
But they don't actually do anything about it.
Yeah, I don't know.
What does the award look like?
A mound of dead Mexicans shot with uh guns provided by the uh United States Justice Department?
This is absolutely this is insane.
But anyway, that's Eric Holder.
He's there for the award ceremony for the Justice Department's Inspector General, ducks out before the Fast and Furious Awards and uh and and goes off to do something else.
Here's a very telling bit, by the way, about all his clocks they're now saying that recent media reports, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatter of Virginia and his colleague James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin sent a letter to Eric Holder saying recent media reports appear to be at odds with your sworn testimony.
This is referring to the fact that on May the fifteenth he said he'd never been involved in any decision to pursue a criminal investigation of a journalist.
And he said for what it's worth, he personally would not think it would be wise policy to do so.
So it wasn't just that he denied ever having done it, uh like the uh like that pathetic uh squish from the IRS uh who wouldn't say whether if he had done it it would be illegal.
Eric Holder actually went further and said not only didn't I do it, but I I can't I can barely conceive of anybody, anybody, who would ever, ever want to do such a thing.
It would not be wise policy.
And as a wise attorney general, I would not wish to be involved in it.
Then it turns out he actually did do it.
He did it, he signed these things himself.
The uh he he signed off on he signed off on the subpoenas himself.
He signed the subpoenas personally, but on May the fifteenth he said he hadn't and he wouldn't have done it.
If someone had put them on his desk, he would have said, no way, boy, this kids this is ridiculous.
I'm woo whoo, boy, no may no way, man, I'm not getting mixed up with it.
He actually signed off on it.
Now we learn, now we learn the the uh Justice Department went judge shopping to get the goods on uh James Rosen at Fox News.
Uh they took their subpoenas personally signed by the by the by uh Eric Holder.
And they go to see uh to find a judge who will authorize uh who will authorize that they sign off on this.
Uh and the first two judges say, Well, look, you need to let the guy know about this.
Because James Rosen isn't a criminal.
He's not someone who's hiding.
He he's a he's on national television every night of the week.
He's not someone who's a flight risk or anything like that.
He's holding down a big time job at Fox News.
And yet, so two judges say they're presented with this thing, saying, uh, you know, uh get uh we want to be we want the right to open his emails without telling him, and two judges say, yeah, get out of here, get out of here, this is ridiculous.
And only the third judge is prepared to sign off on this thing.
So this is this is Eric Holder now.
This is is is anything Eric Holder says about anything true?
I mean this at some point, at some point, this is where the lady uh the the nice lady from Dryden, New York, uh JD, is is so she's arguing with me about stuff her guys have already admitted to.
She's arguing that, well, you know, the IRS, there's no proof that they were targeting there's no proof that they were targeting conservatives.
Well, the only proof is that the Inspector General of the IRS has said so, and the uh the commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service has said so, and this other person they've admitted it.
They've admitted it.
It's not in dispute.
They've not only have they admitted it, they've actually apologized for it.
They've apologized for doing it, which suggests they know it's wrong.
So JD in Dryden, New York is gamely trying to say she's she's she's she's stonewalling more than the guys who did it are stonewalling.
You know, it's like uh and and that's the same thing that's that's that's exactly the same thing that's going on here now.
We're not arguing about anything.
That's Eric Holder's signature on the subpoena uh to read the emails of an American journalist.
So there's no point saying, well, you know, this is just uh murky, this is more of those attack dog politics that you right wing loons uh specialize in.
No, no.
This is we're not arguing the facts of this case are not in dispute.
Eric Holder signed off on the subpoena.
Eric Holder went judge shopping uh because the first two judges, quite rightly, as uh jurists in a free and functioning society, thought that as a law abiding citizen, James Rosen should not have his emails uh gone through by the most powerful government on the planet without probable cause.
This is sick stuff, sick, sick, sick.
Uh when the facts of the matter are not in dispute.
The only thing that's in dispute is whether people like JD in Dryden, New York are gonna take it seriously or not.
Or if their partisanship, if their partisan hackery is so much, is so devoted, is so devoted, uh, that they're gonna stay with Eric Holder, thug enforcer, when even he has said, well, yeah, maybe I feel bad.
When I read about it in the Washington Bosa, uh I almost felt bad about it myself, you know.
Yeah, right, maybe I didn't do the right thing.
But the facts are not in dispute.
The facts are not in dispute.
The IRS did this and they apologized for it.
Uh and at the Justice Department, Eric Holder, who denied on May the fifteenth he'd had anything to do with it, signed the subpoena and went judge shopping until he found and it took and in a way that's a healthy sign that it took three judges before he could find one judge who, like JD in Dryden, New York, decided that uh he wanted to stay with uh Eric Holder and Obama till the last dog died.
Uh that uh he would throw aside eight centuries of common law and uh say, yeah, sure, whatever, yeah, we'll we'll give you we we'll give you the right to go messing in this guy's uh emails.
That's no uh that's no problem.
This is serious stuff, and if you don't take it seriously, you're colluding with the descent of this country into Banana Republic.
Mark Stein and Farush will take more of your calls straight ahead.
Mark Steinfarus on the EIB network.
Uh I I was just reading this story from uh uh from over the internet.
About twenty-five Tea Party groups uh suing uh the IRS because their applications uh uh have uh have uh been uh held up.
And uh it's in politico.
And the very last stor the very last uh sentence of the story, which I noted because uh I was talking about how the the IRS had actually admitted that it's been singling out conservative groups and have apologized for it.
But the very last sentence goes, quote, IRS officials admitted to the practice of singling out conservative groups, but have insisted that there was political motivation behind it, unquote.
And I thought to myself, uh that's got to be a misprint.
What they really meant to say is IRS officials admitted to the practice of singling out conservative groups, but have insisted that there was no political motivation behind it.
But you know the funny thing about it is that whichever one it is, it still makes no sense whatsoever.
Uh either if there's uh they're singling out conservative groups but there's no political motivation, or if they're singling out conservative groups uh but there is political motivation, then that's actually even that's even more serious.
There's no good answer to what the IRS did here.
Let's go to Tim in Biloxi.
Tim, you are live on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Great to have you with us.
Thank you.
Take McCall, Mark, you do a great job as the associate dean there at the at the institute.
Look, what I was talking about is in the the fourth block of the first hour, you're talking about uh the IRS and tax reform and this and that.
And I've been a CPA for 35 years, so I've had plenty of dealings with the IRS.
One of the things that we need to be aware of is that the institution of the IRS and the relationship it has to the Congress, this is the largest money laundering RICO, I'm sure you know what the RICO laws are, RICO enterprise in the history of mankind.
Uh this is nothing more than money laundering.
It's it's about control and it's about power.
Uh if we had a fair tax system, some kind of consumption tax, there is no question that that uh Washington Congressmen and Senators would not have the kind of power they've got.
Yeah, I think I think you're absolutely right there, Tim, that that complexity is their advantage.
And that's why they want to keep it.
I'm sorry, I'm not sure.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead, Tim.
Yeah, go ahead.
What happens, and and I talk to people all the time, and I try to explain this to to some liberal friends that I have, and they don't seem to understand it.
Congress if I have I have clients that have greatly benefited from certain provisions in the tax code that happen to apply to their businesses.
Well, while my clients may not contribute, they have uh they have special interest groups and lobbyists that work very, very hard to get laws passed that specifically benefit them.
And in exchange for that, obviously, what they get, uh what the politicians get, the congressmen, the senators get, are campaign contributions.
So the tax code is really used to to keep the existing infrastructure in power.
And until we go to something like a and and I'm not I'm not getting to the weeds of a fair tax, but until we go to some kind of consumption tax where every American business, individual, whatever, is treated the same as every other person, we're going to continue to be facing this kind of corruption.
This is the most egregious.
And without without the tax code, well, you couldn't do away with the IRS because somebody has to count the receipts that come in.
You certainly could get rid of 90% of it.
Yeah, and you're and you're absolutely right.
And uh Tim, I mean, as you know, these are sort of philosophical arguments that people uh people have had for many years that if you have a consumption tax, uh, so that uh everybody goes into a store and buys a Mars bar.
Uh they pay tax, they pay a couple of cents tax when they buy the Mars bar.
That doesn't involve the government of the United States asking you a whole bunch of questions about how many dependents you have and whether you have child care for your dependents, and whether you're involved in any further education that you can offset, and whether you've got health care expenses on this and all the rest of it.
Alan Keyes, uh Alan Keyes is regarded as a joke by many conservative figures.
But I heard Alan Keyes speak when he was doing his uh presidential run in the year two thousand.
He stood up and he said, uh, if the tax rate is twenty percent, how much of your income do does the government control?
And people go, uh twenty percent.
And he goes, No, they control a hundred percent, because you have to justify the part you keep.
And he's absolutely right on that.
But that's a simple income tax system.
That's a very simple that's the simplest income tax system.
As we now know from the IRS, you don't just have to justify the part you keep.
You have to justify the books you read.
You have to justify the relatives you have who are running for public office.
You have to uh justify the Facebook posts you have made, and you have to supply photocopies of all this material to the government.
And once the IRS is in charge of Obamacare, you will have to justify the arrangements uh you make for your hanya, and you will have to make the arrangements you uh justify the arrangements you make for your broken legs.
So the IRS will have jurisdiction not only over your income, not only over your Facebook posts, not only over the books you read, not only over the political ambitions of your friends and your relatives, uh, but they will have jurisdiction over your chest and your kidneys and uh your uh private parts and all the rest of it.
That will be all within the jurisdiction of the uh IRS.
And this is simply ridiculous.
And that's why, as Tim says, we need to move uh to some kind of simple fair tax system that does not require uh the uh um bureaucrats to adjudicate uh between which citizens they will treat more fairly than others.
Mark Stein for Rush.
More straight ahead.
Jay Carney is referring questions on Eric Holder to the Justice Department.
Uh that's that's part I believe the Justice Department is part of this shadowy thing called the the executive branch that has got nothing to do with the President of the United States.
Uh the executive branch is some shadowy conspiracy that's uh that's going on there down in the basement.
And so Jay Carney has referred questions on Eric Holder to the Justice Obama.
But he's busy.
Eric Holder has been, as we just heard, attending the Department of Justice Awards ceremony, uh whatever they call it.
I think they're called they're called the subpoenaes, aren't they?
I think they're something like that.
Anyway, he got a uh he he's been handing out the subpoena awards at the Department of Justice Award ceremony.
Uh Doug Urbanski will be with you tomorrow.
This has been Mark Stein sitting in for a rush on America's number one radio show, and I will be back behind the golden EIB microphone on Monday.
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