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May 17, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 17, 2013, Friday, Hour #2
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Our last caller has stirred some passions out there.
Fascinating.
We'll get to all of it.
Great to have you here, L. Rushbow, serving humanity.
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Now I mentioned at the last segment, right before the top of the hour, that the IRS was asking religious groups for the content of their prayers prior to granting them tax exempt status, and in some cases not.
It came out today during the Ways and Means Committee hearing on the IRS scandal.
The acting IRS Commissioner, Stephen Miller, who's leaving, was testifying.
Aaron Schock, a Republican from Illinois, had a question for him.
Let me ask you about another letter that was received by a pro-life group, this one in Iowa.
Their question specifically asked from the IRS to the Coalition for Life of Iowa, quote, please detail the content of the members of your organization's prayers.
Would that be an appropriate question to a 501c3 applicant?
The content of one's prayers.
It pains me to say I can't speak to that one either, but that's an You don't know whether or not that would be an appropriate question to ask.
Speaking outside of this case, which I don't know anything about, um, it would surprise me that that question was asked.
That's it.
The guy is reluctant.
The IRS commissioner, the acting commissioner, is afraid to comment because he doesn't know the details of the case.
Well, let me ask a question.
What details could possibly justify such a question?
Iowans for life, Coalition for Life of Iowa.
Well, Mr. Limbaugh, what if what if they're praying to the lemmer?
So what?
There's religious freedom.
But what you think it's okay to pray to animals?
I'm using an extreme because of course they weren't praying to lemmers.
The IRS commissioner could not condemn the actions of his agency.
He held that in reserve.
Well, speaking outside the uh case, which I don't know anything about, it would surprise me that question was asked.
It would.
Folks, there's no sense of outrage on this guy's part at all.
There's oh gosh, geez, I guess.
I'm gonna tell you something that many of you.
You don't want to believe it, and you're gonna reject it.
That question is probably in his mind entirely legit.
These people, these Uber radical leftists.
One of the characteristics people have that they are most afraid of and distrustful of and threatened by deeply devout religious life devoted to God.
That don't understand it.
That's kooky, that is really weird to them.
And in their world, it is entirely understandable that we need to know what you're praying to.
I mean, we're gonna get tax exempt status.
Who knows?
You could be subversive.
To them, that's entirely legitimate question.
This guy would not condemn it.
You think this is hard to believe this is happening in America?
I don't.
Not with this current regime, and not with this bunch.
I know who they are.
I know why they're in power.
They don't like the way this country was founded.
They don't like the Constitution the way it was written.
They don't like it because it limits them.
They think this country is rooted in racism, slavery, prejudice, bias, discrimination, sexism, bigotry, homophobia, you name it, they think this country is immersed and founded in all of that.
And to them all of that's corruption.
And at the center of it is a belief in God.
So this guy, you heard him.
Uh it pains me to say I can't speak to that one either.
You can't.
You can't tell us that you find that question illegitimate in deciding whether or not a group gets its tax exempt status.
It's amazing.
By the way, folks, uh we are being told that Lois Lerner's seemingly out-of-the-blue admission about the IR exist IRS tax exempt waivers was carefully planned.
The question that evoked her admission was planted as part of uh prepared strategy for the IRS to release this information to the public, and that's according to the outgoing IRS Commissioner Stephen Miller, who said in testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee this morning.
So Lois Learner's out of the blue admission about the IRS tax exempt waivers.
That was orchestrated to get that inofficial testimony.
So this would seem to show that they wanted the IRS stuff to come out right at the point where Benghazi was starting to gain traction.
That's the point of this.
There were some people who were laughingly suggesting that the lid was blown on this IRS thing last Friday, right when Benghazi was starting to heat up.
And I remember a number of people that called the program here sent emails, said, Rush, this is an attempt to cover up what's going on in Benghazi, because that's the real problem.
And it is.
The IRS thing, though, is easily understandable.
The IRS thing, that's abuse of power, that's government overreaching.
A lot of people understand that.
The Benghazi thing, still kind of murky.
And it's a tougher sell to try to convince the American people that an administration didn't care about the lives of four Americans.
That's a real tough sell.
It's a real tough sell to suggest to the American people that the regime was incompetent.
Because everybody in this country thinks that the president of the United States, first and foremost, is concerned with defending America, saving America's lives.
And is indeed competent to do so.
I dare say that most people, low information voters especially, think it's just automatic that every president is profoundly qualified to run the military.
They just accept it.
They can't conceive of anything else.
Such is the lofty image of the presidency itself.
It's not so much a lofty image of Obama, it's the office.
So the Benghazi situation, that's tougher.
So that's what Bob Woodward is is out saying that these Benghazi, the talking point controversy of Benghazi, uh is comparable to Watergate.
He said, I have to go back 40 years to Watergate when Nixon put out his edited transcripts of the conversations.
And if you read through all these emails, you see that everyone in the government saying, oh, let's not tell the people terrorists were involved.
Let's not tell people that there were uh connections to Al Qaeda.
Let's not tell the public that there were warnings.
Bob Wood, he said this on MSNBC today.
He said, don't dismiss this Benghazi.
This is very serious.
He compared it to Watergate.
He compared this to Nixon.
And I dare say, and I want to remind you again that in all the emails that have been released, not one reference to the video, folks, not one reference to it.
In all of those emails, there hasn't been one reference whatsoever to the film, to the video, to the thing that irritated Muslims and so forth.
I gotta take a quick time out.
We'll come back, go get to some of your phone calls and review other things in the snack of stuff, such as the case against George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin.
There isn't one.
It's totally disintegrated.
There is not a case against George Zimmerman.
This is another outrage in and of itself.
And no less than Professor Dershowitz is saying this.
Oh, I tell you here it is, Stephen Hayes.
What about the video?
So what about the video?
The White House last week released nearly a hundred pages of emails detailing some of the discussions within the Obama administration.
It resulted in major revisions to talking points about the Benghazi attack that were drafted by the CIA.
And from the beginning, there have been two big questions about the regime's deceptive spin on Benghazi.
How were the talking points whittled down to virtually nothing from the CIA's original draft?
And how did a previously obscure YouTube video gain such prominence in the regime's explanation of what happened in Benghazi?
And Hayes has looked at all these documents.
There's nothing in there about the video.
They can't find it.
Where did this come from?
People start.
Two big questions.
Where was Obama during the heat of the moment of the Benghazi attack?
And where did this video excuse come from?
I think I know, by the way.
We talked about it earlier.
One other thing before we go to the break.
There's a movie that is premiering this weekend, starts tonight called Hating Breitmart.
And it is uh it's biological, but it's it's also infotainment about Andrew Breitbart, who was a really committed conservative warrior.
And this guy uh was leading the charge on the internet and in other places, walking into places with cameras and and exposing liberals and Democrats for who they are.
He died very prematurely from a heart attack.
I cannot tell you how beloved Andrew Breitbart was.
When Andrew Breitbart passed away much of the, and particularly the um, what I would call the young conservative brigade.
I mean, he was a hero to them.
He was a hero to everybody that knew him.
He was indefatigable.
He was uh constantly on the go.
He had energy that was enviable.
He was always upbeat and laughing and smiling, but he was loaded for bear, and he fearless.
And they've made a movie about him, and they've made a movie about efforts to discredit him.
And Andrew Breitbart is always going to be very close to my heart.
Because he became a conservative in part Because of me.
And he told me the story.
He was from Brentwood, California, liberal hotbed, Los Angeles suburb.
His father in law is the comedian Orson Bean.
And Orson Bean is a conservative and has been for a while.
Andrew married his daughter.
And while they're dating and so forth, Andrew is over at Orson Bean's house and he happens to see my book, my first book, The Way Things Ought to Be.
And Bean's library on his desk.
And Andrew goes nuts.
I can't believe I can't believe that you've got a book by this guy.
This guy's a racist.
He's an extremist.
I can't believe.
And Orson said, you know what, Andrew, you ought to take this for the weekend and read it.
Now Andrew told me this story numerous times.
I interviewed him for the Limbaugh Letter, and he was he recounted this uh story during that interview.
He was always eager for me to uh know this.
But Orson Bean gave Breitbart, who was to be his son-in-law, gave him a copy of the book, and said, You take it home and read it.
And Andrew Breitbart took the book home and read it.
And that began his transformation from Brentwood, California default Southern California liberal to a I mean, and and ignited conservative warrior.
And I've always been very proud of the fact that I had some I played some role in in Andrew Breitbart becoming what he became.
Anyway, a lot of people have worked very hard on this uh movie called Hating Breitbart, and it opens all over the country today, and it's had uh it's had some previews.
It it's exceptionally well done, and people who have seen it are very very moved by it because he's very missed.
I don't know, you probably when Andrew Breitbart died, somebody said, Who's Andrew Bright maybe you've heard the name and so forth, but he had a TV on say everybody, for example everybody at Fox counted him as their best friend.
It was it was incredible.
A number of people that he ended up knowing that he ended up coming into contact with, he touched.
Um Greg Gutfeld loved him, for example, who hosts Red Eye on on Fox, devoted, I think a week worth of shows to the memory of uh of Breitbart, because he was.
He was motivational, inspirational, fearless, and so forth.
And I wanted to mention the the movie that these people have produced about his life and his enemies that does openity hating Breitbart.
Okay, quick time out, my friends.
We'll come back and get to your phone calls right after this.
Don't go.
It's open mind Friday, and back to the phones we go.
This is Deborah in Montecello, Georgia.
And great to have you here.
Right.
Deborah, Deborah, how are you?
I am great, thank you.
All your music, great bumper music.
Appreciate that.
Hey, listen, first of all, um great many thanks to my husband for making me listen to you since 1992, or that's when it started.
Your husband made you listen to the program.
He made me listen to you in 1992, because you know all of the uh drive-by liberal media, every time I heard your name was oh, bad news, which you were associated with.
Still the case today.
Still the case today.
They still do it today.
And yeah, well, anyhow, he made me start listening to you, and also I want to thank you for your confidence because it was infectious, and it carried over to me and everything that I was learning and understanding.
Uh, not that I was a liberal, it's just that all I heard and knew is what I heard and knew.
Um and in with direct response to the previous caller, um, I'm having an opposite reaction to what I heard.
Uh, because uh you know, this is it.
I mean, I was already um angry and upset about what was going on, but they've really gone too far now.
And I and I'm not a a high-tech kind of person, I'm an a a little bit of an older lady.
I've never done Facebook, and let me tell you how I feel right now.
I feel like creating a Facebook account, telling them everything that I think, everything that I feel, putting it all out there.
This is what America is and why they're destroying it.
Uh America is built on freedom, what the Constitution means.
Bring it on.
Come and find me, come look for me.
You want my gun?
Come and get them.
I'm not going to have it.
Go for it.
This is it.
I can't tell you how much I love hearing you say this.
Go for it.
I understand the previous caller.
She was, she's afraid.
This this is what this IRS thing is doing.
It's telling people if this government wants to stop you and target you, they can find you and they will.
And it's got her scared to death.
But I love your attitude.
Okay, come get me.
You want my gun, come get me.
You want to try to silence me?
Come try.
I love that attitude.
I and I I I happen to think yours is gonna be the majority attitude that people have.
They want to silence me.
You know what?
And I've had it.
I will not be silenced.
That's my first amendment right.
I I do have a right to protect myself from my government.
That's why the second amendment is there.
I will no longer have anybody, they do not have a right to tell me how I am to engage in dialogue, what I can say, how I can say it.
I do not need an Atlanta talk show host or Rhino, who I've decided is a closet communist.
Tell me how I am to engage in dialogue with the with the left.
Don't tell me how I am to engage in dialogue, what I can and cannot say.
I'm not gonna be silenced.
I'm done.
I've had it.
You don't stop uh to you what you keep on.
You get go ahead and uh hang on just a second.
Look, Deborah, don't go away.
You she said she's not high tech.
I want to fix that.
Don't don't go away.
Okay, we're back now to uh to Deborah in Monticello, Georgia.
Deborah, you you said that you're not a high tech person, is that right?
Not particularly.
What does that mean?
You're not a high you have a com you don't have a computer, you don't go to no, I have a computer, and I used to even train attorneys to switch from DOS to Windows, basic stuff, but I I haven't kept up with the latest and greatest.
I got a uh a Mac, oh, about two years ago to teach myself how to do some Apple stuff, but I don't I I mean I'm using the jitterbug right now, okay.
Um I think smartphones are stupid phones, but um Facebook and the Twitter and the whatnot.
Um I just feel like I don't have time for it.
Yeah, well, now I hear you on that.
I I hear you on that.
Well, okay, look, um what what you so you've you've got your Mac.
How about an iPad?
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
That would I've heard they're pretty cool.
They are very cool.
And they they're sh they're really cool, and they're portable and they're the future, and it's they're fun to boot.
So uh, and if you want, you know, this is it's a Macintosh shop rating system.
It's an iOS.
And if you want to ever do Facebook and Twitter, it's built in.
You don't have to do anything special other than get an account and sign it.
If you want to go there, I'd like you.
I I I mean uh we have accounts there for the program, and we post stuff occasionally, but I would never live there.
Uh I know exactly how you feel about it.
But all that aside, I want you to hold on.
You want a big one, you want an iPad mini.
I would in my case, I would take the big one.
I'll tell you why.
The iPad Mini is not retina yet, and it will be.
They're gonna come out with a new version of the mini uh by the end of the year that'll have a retina high definition screen in it.
The current one doesn't have that, but the big one does, and and it's just you won't believe it.
You will not believe the display on this thing.
Well, I would be honored.
Um signature rush engraved on the back of the thing.
I mean, the whole thing, not just a little portion of it, the whole back side is EIB L Rushbo's signature engraved.
So look, Deborah, hang on, and we will get your shipping information.
And hopefully we'll try to get it out to you for Saturday delivery, so you'll have it tomorrow, if you uh if you want it.
And I'm also gonna throw in a couple of uh tumblers from the uh two if by tea dot com website, and you will love these two.
Deborah, thanks much.
I appreciate it.
Dana in Columbus, Ohio.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Thank you so very much.
I am calling because you mentioned earlier that No liberal would dare call and say that you're right or give any sort of credence to any conservative point of view.
And I want to tell you that as a soon to be 40 African American woman that has been told my entire life to vote down the Democratic Party line, I appreciate your point of view, and I appreciate you staying firmly behind your belief because over the past four plus years that our current administration has been in.
And you know, even before that, you saw the writing on the wall, and I was still living in Well, I want to qualify you here for a second.
Did you vote for Obama in 2008?
I did.
Did you vote for Obama in 2012?
I did not.
Okay.
And that you're not going to be able to do that.
I abstained from voting for president before.
I mean, I've I I just I I couldn't I couldn't find the lesson of the two evils.
And that is that's my unfortunate dilemma.
Um I have a master's degree.
I mean, I've put myself through school, you know, a ton of student loans.
Um I own my own home and I have three children, one that's a second year at OSU.
And let me ask you a question.
Why did you vote for Obama in the first time?
Because I believe.
I was a believer.
And I just knew that, hey, with my master's degree, the entire world's going to open up.
There are going to be all sorts of marketing communications jobs, marketing opportunities where companies are going to grow exponentially, want and need my education and expertise.
When then did you realize I had already had?
I just knew that that was going to happen with his.
When did you realize that Obama's policies were doing the exact opposite of what you thought was gonna or have you realized that?
Children all the time.
Do your best because you're gonna be the one that gets you to your next level.
I have been challenged with the whole tax issues of raising taxes because God willing, I'm gonna be one of those people that will be negatively impacted by those tax hikes.
You know, I'm I'm trying to get there, and I don't feel I feel so much as you've been saying why knock down the people that are doing it for themselves.
It no, it's no one's gonna tell me that I didn't get anywhere by myself.
I love my family dearly, but if I didn't have the motivation and initiative to succeed.
Okay, get wait a Dana, can you hear me?
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Okay.
When did you realize that all those things you believed about Obama weren't true?
Probably the top of this year, it probably just started to hit me, and then I would say with the IRS Benghazi issues over the past couple of weeks.
No kidding.
Really, those things have been the catalyst for you, the icing on the cake, actually.
I believe in personal responsibility, and all of the finger pointing at that level that there is not a single person that's willing to own anything is disgusting to me.
Well, let me tell you, let me let me tell you this, and this is by the way, it's it's National Review has a story on it, but everybody is reporting it.
The IRS chief, the uh this this interim head honcho, the IRS, has just said it is absolutely not illegal for the IRS to target these groups.
A question, do you believe it's illegal for employees of the IRS to create lists to target individual groups and citizens in this country?
That was Tom Price, Republican Georgia, asking Stephen Miller.
And Miller said, I think the Treasury Inspector General indicated it might not be, but others will be able to tell that.
Well, what do you believe, Price said?
I don't believe it is illegal.
I don't believe it should happen.
Don't get me wrong, it shouldn't happen, but it is not illegal.
So this acting IRS chief, this guy that's being fired ostensibly, he doesn't think that anything that happened is wrong.
He doesn't think that anything happened is illegal.
And I'm here to tell you he's being serious.
Folks.
I have, for 25 years I've tried to explain liberals.
I've tried to explain who they are, and I'm gonna keep explaining who they are, regardless of how difficult it becomes and how maybe incredulous people are when they hear it.
But I'm telling you, they are a different breed.
They you've got Janet Napolitano issuing advisories from the Department of Homeland Security demanding that everybody at DHS, TSA, everybody in that department, make sure that you treat Sharia believing Islamic supremacists with great respect and deference.
The same woman who issues a report early on warning the same groups, TSA, Department of Homeland Security of the militant extremism of American right wingers.
The only conclusion is the obvious one.
People like Janet Napolitano, and they're all over the government now.
They're all over the the in their mind, the real insurgents are us.
The real radicals, the real extremists, are us.
They consider us to be their primary enemy.
And in a political sense, of course, they're right.
But it goes much, much farther than that with them.
We consider them political opponents.
You and me, you and I, we look at these people as opponents to be defeated in the arena of ideas.
We look at these people as obstacles to what we want to accomplish.
They have different ideas.
We think they should be defeated, but we want to do that by convincing a vast majority of Americans to vote for us, not for them, pure and simple.
They don't leave it up to that.
They don't want the American people having a say in this at all because the American people might vote and get it wrong.
So they are going to do the eliminating.
They are going to take care of the opposition.
They are going to make sure that their opposition doesn't get a foot.
They're not going to have a debate with us.
They're not going to throw it open.
They're not going to let the, I mean, they have to undergo elections.
But what are they trying to do here with the IRS?
This whole thing was an effort to impugn the efforts of conservative group Benghazi, all this stuff is oriented toward one thing, Obama's re-election, and that's at all costs.
No matter how, no matter what, that is at all costs.
But they do look at us as a serious enemy that has to be dealt with as not opponents.
We are a serious, serious enemy.
Much, much more than real enemies of the country.
Thanks, a quick timeout.
We'll be back and continue with much more right after this.
Get this.
At the hearing this morning, the IRS commissioner, Stephen Miller, the guy who's been canned.
He was leaving anyway, so he really had been can, he was moving up his departure.
He was asked, oh, yeah, what do you need?
What does the IRS need to keep this from happening again?
You know what he said?
We need more money.
We need a bigger budget.
When asked how to limit the targeting of certain groups.
Well, we need we need a bigger budget.
We need more agents.
No, no, no, no.
See, that's why the Tea Party came into existence because you guys are growing out of control.
The federal government's getting out of control.
The federal government's in charge of every aspect of modern life now.
The federal government will say yes or no to way too many things.
Yeah, with more money, you can screw twice as many people.
With more agents, you can screw twice as many tax-exempt organization applications.
So the guy said, no, there's nothing illegal about what happened.
It might not have been right, but there's nothing illegal about what we did.
It's perfectly fine to ask a pro-life group what their prayers are.
We gotta know that kind of stuff.
And by the way, we need more money.
If you give us more money, uh just uh that's how we deal with it.
I look, I don't I'm not trying to throw cold water on on things.
I just I can't tell you the number of people who've had rush.
This is this it is we're gonna no, this isn't it.
This isn't it.
It's we we're we're in the midst of an ongoing uh educational effort and project.
But when you say this is it, there's nothing's gonna happen to Obama, folks.
That you just have to accept the fact that this country isn't going to remove a sitting African American president.
It just not gonna really severely punish such a president.
It isn't gonna happen.
And the press isn't gonna turn on the guy.
What's happening now is an educational opportunity for the future.
What's happening now is an opportunity for a bunch of people to say this is what happens when people like this end up running the show.
Don't let it happen again.
That's this is Washington versus the people.
That's what this is here.
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