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Aug. 9, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 9, 2012, Thursday, Hour #2
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Hi, how are you, folks?
Great to have you back.
It's Rush Limbaugh and the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
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And no reason for that to change.
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No, I was not making this up.
A vibrator giveaway that attracted long lines in New York City came to an abrupt end when the city told the promoters to pack it up.
It was Trojan, the condom company.
They set up pleasure carts.
That's what they're called here.
They set up pleasure carts on Wednesday in two Manhattan neighborhoods.
And they were all set to give away 10,000 vibrating sex toys.
And nearly 300 people had lined up at each of these hot dog style carts.
That's what it says here.
And it makes sense.
They're made to look like the hot dog vendors, except they were giving away vibrators.
According to the New York Post, the giveaway was interrupted when a city representative told the promoters to shut down because of crowds.
They weren't upset that they were giving away vibrators.
It was at 300 people together at the uh at the cart.
That was too much.
And there was a woman in line who desperately wanted a vibrator.
Her name was Melody.
And she grumbled that uh Mayor Doomberg doesn't want anybody to have any fun here.
You can't have a giant soda, you can't have a a vibrator.
What is this city for?
And you can't have a smoke after the vibrator, by the way.
So the city says that the event could resume at a later date if you just get the proper permits.
Do you know that there was a vibrator permit that you could get in New York City?
Well, apparently.
Apparently there is.
Are they giving away vibrators at the Olympics?
They're giving away condoms left and right.
Anyway, back to the audio sound bites.
We we uh we've got one more Bill Burton here.
We had a question that was that Anderson Cooper put to him.
Some in the mainstream media, even some, and I think just to give themselves cover.
I say, come on, are you guys serious?
Romney's responsible for this guy's wife dying.
I mean, the woman had health insurance when she left.
She was not fired.
He was offered a buyout.
They had ample opportunity for health insurance.
It was six years after Romney left.
She was diagnosed or she felt uncomfortable, felt badly, but didn't go get it checked out.
And you guys want to maintain, Mr. Burton, are you really serious that Romney is responsible for that?
You made a commercial about Mitt Romney.
It's all about this woman's tragedy.
You're trying to link it.
Why are you even talking about her?
What is the purpose of this ad, Mr. Burton?
What we're saying is that at a moment of true uh concern and anxiety in a family.
When Joe Soptik really needed health insurance for his family, he didn't have it.
And that's the point here.
He was promised health care benefits, and he lost them.
At a moment of true anxiety.
What are you saying?
How can you imply that?
It's totally disingenuous, Bill.
Come on, you know that.
I just don't think that that's true.
I think that Mitt Romney had an effect on these people's lives.
When people take a look at it, when they hear the stories of these folks, they say, I don't want that guy to be president of the United States.
That's exactly what this is about.
And it doesn't matter again.
They don't care that they're lying.
It's no dip look, Obama's out there saying our plan worked.
It's always been tough.
It's it's tough, always been tough for honorable people to go up against people like this.
There aren't very many smart people who know how to um deal with this.
And people who do not lie, people don't want to lie, people who don't engage in in activity like this that with totally unethical, don't know how to deal with this.
They sit there and they're stunned.
He's just admitting.
All we want is people to think Romney has something to do with this.
We don't care that he didn't.
Anderson, you're not getting it here.
We don't care that Romney had nothing to do with it.
All we want is for people to realize that they don't want Romney to be president.
He's not a nice guy.
He doesn't care about him.
We don't care what we have to say to make people think that.
Stephanie Cutter.
These people are lying through their face when they say that they didn't know the details of Soptik's story.
Yesterday morning on CNN on the starting point show, Stephanie Cutter, who is Obama's campaign man.
By the way, there's another aspect of this.
And I don't again think it would amount to anything, but it's real.
And that is the question of coordination.
By law, the campaign can have nothing to do with the super PAC.
But the campaign has run ads with this guy.
There is a school of thought out there.
There have been two ads featuring Soptik.
One Soptik ad was run by the Obama campaign.
The other one, Romney killed his wife ad was run by the Super PAC.
There is supposed to be no coordination.
But people have analyzed the video.
Soptic's wearing the same shirt and both ads.
His hair is the same length, same glasses.
His his uh union official union guy hard hat is uh is in both ads.
It looks like they're both done the same place.
So people say maybe these two ads aired months apart were shot the same day.
So is it possible that the campaign is coordinating with the PAC in violation of federal election law?
Of course it's possible.
In fact, I would submit it's even likely.
But who's going to do anything about it?
I predict nobody is going to do anything about it.
We can mention it.
We can volley the allegation.
They don't care.
They're at it's make us stop.
We don't care.
We'll go ahead, we'll violate federal election law.
Look at man, we gotta spare this country from Mitt Romney.
Romney's the ultimate evil.
And when you're trying to save the country from the ultimate evil, anything goes.
There'd no limits on what you can do when you're trying to spare this country experiencing evil.
And that's their attitude.
So here's here's Stephanie Cutter.
She's with a campaign.
She knows Soptic, worked on the first Soptik ad, having a discussion about the PAC ad, linking Romney to the death of the guy's wife.
And the host, CNN, says this woman died in 2006.
This ad basically accuses Romney of killing her.
Is that the kind of rhetoric you want to hear in a campaign?
Uh, especially from the side of the president of the United States, you the guys are talking about raising the level of discourse, civility, new politics, postpartisanship.
Is this really the kind of rot gut that you want in a campaign coming from your side?
I don't know the facts of when Joe Soptik's wife got sick or when she died.
Oh, really?
I don't know the facts of when Soptik's wife got sick or when she died.
Well, on a conference call in May, she was listening as Soptik told the same story.
This is the steel worker, Joe Soptik, and Obama campaign uh manager Stephanie Cutter.
Here's a portion Of that call.
A little while later, she was diagnosed with lung cancer.
I had to put her in a county hospital because she didn't have health care.
And when the captain took her away, all I got was an enormous bill.
When you look at what Mitt Romney did at places like GST Steel, you can tell he's only worried about one group of people, and that's the people like him, people at the top.
You can't expect much much more from someone who says he likes to fire people with no concern about what their family really means.
Now I'll turn the call back over to Stephanie.
Great.
Thank you, Joe.
We appreciate you sharing your experiences.
Stephanie Cutter, that's that's May 14th of this year, on a call with Joe Soptic, as he relates the same story as is in the ad yesterday, sound by Tennagen, Mike, yesterday, Stephanie Cutter said this.
I don't know the facts of when Joe Soptik's wife got sick or when she died.
A blatant lie, but they don't care.
What are we gonna do to them?
What are you gonna do to us?
Miss Cutter, you were on the call when he I don't know his story.
I don't know the facts of when his wife got sick or when she died.
Well, we just heard you on the call where he told the story back in May and even turns the call over to you.
I don't know the facts of when his wife got sick.
And so then people get exasperated.
Speechless.
What do we do?
We had this problem with Clinton.
What do you do with somebody who blatantly lies?
What do you do?
What did you do in high school when somebody blatantly lied?
What do you do when your boss blatantly lies?
I got fired once for calling him on it.
I worked for a congenital pathological liar.
And I didn't have any other problem with the guy.
I just couldn't deal with it.
I couldn't deal with the braggadocious lying stories.
So one day, he starts in, but he started these stories are all made to make look big and important and all that.
And I said, look, don't tell me you don't know these people you're talking about.
I family ran into one of these guys never heard of you.
And he was stumped, dumbfounded, uh, didn't quite know what to say.
I left.
I got home 30 minutes later, the owner of the radio station called and fired me.
The people don't know how to deal with this.
I called one of these type pathological liars on it, and I got fired.
But most honorable people don't know how to deal with this.
And when I say don't know how to deal with it, they don't know how to make these people pay for this.
They don't know how to make sure there's a penalty.
In this case, the campaign ought not get away with what they're doing.
They're lying about and there might be illegal coordination between the campaign and the super PEC.
But that's going to require a charge being made and evidence being produced and going to Federal Election Commission, and we'll get a result next April.
Decision next April.
So that's when people like me who look to the Romney camp.
Okay, you guys are gonna have to do something about this.
You can't rely on a bunch of faceless, nameless Tea Party people to get revved up.
You can't, you're gonna have to you have to deal with this, and that means going after these people, not on the fact that they lie.
Not complaining that they lie.
You don't do it that way.
You go out and you tell the truth about their destruction of the economy.
You go out there and you tell the truth about the fact that they're incompetent and they don't know what they're doing, and they pose a great threat to the future of the country.
All you have to, we've got the truth on our side, and that's Obama's economic record.
We've got the truth.
All we have to do is be unafraid to say it.
Cutter, this is the same woman that called Romney a felon.
Same woman who put the idea out there that Romney is a felon because he was still at Bain when he said he had left Bain.
He was still there.
She knows.
She knows he's a tax cheating felon.
They're still running that ad, the Super PAC is on their website.
Peter Johnson is a lawyer, a legal analyst on the Fox News channel this morning on Fox and Friends, they asked him about this.
She says, Stephanie Cutter says that she doesn't know the details about this guy's wife's death and may not know about the details that it was five years later, but clearly she knows Joe Soptik.
Is is she running a foul of the law here, Peter?
Oh, it might be.
Under the Federal Election Commission, there could be civil penalties and more.
The issue is what's the coordination between the formal campaign and an independent expenditure committee.
So called super PEC that were created after the Citizens United decision at the United States Supreme Court.
In my view, that quote, that tape recording shows a real awareness that they were coordinating.
Yeah, of course they are.
But who's going to do anything about it?
And to pile on, here's Soptic himself, January of this year.
He's on a public TV program called Democracy Now.
And there's a co-host that's Amy Goodman.
And she's interviewing this guy has been a Democrat trick pony for I don't know how many months.
He's a Democrat Party activist.
He's not this beleaguered citizen.
Reminds me of somebody else whose name I can't think of right now.
I can't what was her name?
I can't anyway.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
But it's an activist.
He's on a he's on a public TV program in January talking about this.
And this interview, he's talking about when Bain Capitol bought his steel company, GST.
And she said to him, Goodman said, So what happened, Mr. Soptik?
They became very uh union non-friendly.
I mean, they started looking for ways to eliminate jobs.
In my case, in my department, they actually offered to buy our jobs out from underneath us.
Offer to buy up.
Offered a buyout, didn't just fire your little butt, they have offered a buyout.
And you would have had the money to buy health insurance.
Here's Sununu talking about this later on Fox.
Obviously, if that is true, then you have uh again dishonesty by omission by the Obama campaign, and unfortunately by this gentleman whose tragedy we empathize with.
But boy, if if that turns out to be true, then what what he has been griping about toward Mitt Romney is certainly a misrepresentation.
Oh, yeah, misrepresentation.
I gotta take a break here, folks.
I'm way long.
Be right back.
Half my brain tied behind my back, just to make it fair.
Rush Limboy emitting a vocal vibrations coast to coast.
We start on the phones in Decatur, Illinois.
This is Joel.
Thank you for calling, sir.
Nice to have you here.
Thanks so much, Rush.
What an honor, what a privilege to talk with you.
Um listened since the eighties, watched you in the 90s.
Saving up for an iPad, and you can bet the first uh app I'm gonna get is Rush 24-7.
Um I wanted to talk in regards to the Romney Killed My Wife ad.
I'm not really surprised at liberals doing this.
I their playbook is predictable, it's well won.
The thing that really gets me is Romney's weak and passive response, and I want to compare it to a guy in 1988 who had the same res lack of response and lack of moral outrage, and that was Michael Dukakis.
Whenever they asked him, what would you do if your wife was raped or murdered?
He gave this passive response, and I think this was his Ducaucus moment.
Um I mean Well, not quite yet.
If this had happened in a debate yet, this is just an ad right now, and they did go out and respond to it.
Um, but I agree with your seminal point here.
Uh but if this had happened in a debate, if if like Bernard Shaw is called out of mothballs, and he says, Mr. Romney, it's been said that you're responsible for a man's wife's death.
Uh, because you're rich and don't care about people.
And if Romney said, well, you know, if that guy's wife had lived in Massachusetts, she would have had health care, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
You know, that Sayanara.
Well, what I'm looking for, what I think a lot of conservatives are looking for, is you know, backbone, and if need be, if somebody attacks you, your wife, your credibility, get pissed off, you know.
And in sports, whenever a coach throws a chair, whenever he questions a play and risks, you know, getting ejected out of the game with a technical foul, he's showing he has as much skin in the game as the players, and that rallies the team.
We're looking for it.
We need it.
Well, I can tell you that most Republican consultants advise against that because they fear that a reaction such as that which you have advocated here on this program would irritate independent voters, and it would not be therefore advisable uh to to react in a high emotional dudgeon state uh over something like this.
The danger is that here you're in the midst of a smear, and if uh you accept the premise of the ad in a smear in your response, then you've got uh a problem.
You're what you're asking for is what I've heard people call this program and ask for for 24 years.
Leadership and passion.
Conservative leadership and passion is what you want to hear.
And you're not.
Now, the Olympics might be a factor here.
And when they end, I think a whole lot of stuff is going to change.
Hi, how are you?
Welcome back, Rush Limbaugh.
From behind the golden EIB microphone, the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies, a new ad running here in South Florida.
But...
Depicts Alan West, a Republican, African American, Republican, Alan West is depicted in a boxing ring wearing red boxing gloves.
It's a cartoon-like video, shows Alan West punching an old woman, a young lady, and a family with children.
He also steals money, cash from the hands of the family, he puts the money in his pocket, all while laughing about it.
And the audio that accompanies the video as a female announcer with a condescending tone, saying West has sucked it to seniors, he's whacked women with his votes, he's mauled middle class families.
Alan West, tax cuts for the rich.
So they got Alan West beating up an old woman, stealing money from a middle class family, and whacking a younger woman.
Well, the Paul Ryan ad shoving a grandmother in a wheelchair over a cliff.
It's all they've got, folks.
Dick Morris has an idea on what Romney could do.
It was on O'Reilly last night.
O'Reilly said, Look, if I'm Romney, I'd do the fact check that we just did.
And I say, look, this is what we did.
It's why we bought the guy's company.
This is what happened.
We tried to save the company.
See, this is the the advice that people give Romney, go out and tell the truth about what you did.
Go in there and say, no, no, no, no.
We took over Bain because they asked or the steel company because they asked us in.
We saved that company for three to four years longer than it would have had a life.
The people that worked at that company had jobs and health care for four years longer than they would have.
If we hadn't gone in there, that company would have gone bankrupt.
This woman had health insurance from her own job when her husband was like, he was offered a buyout.
The theory, go in and tell the truth.
The problem with that, and it sounds good, but the problem with that is you're accepting the premise.
And you're always on defense.
And what has to happen here is somehow Obama and his team need to be the one on defense.
Otherwise, the Romney campaign is always defending themselves against lies.
When you start defending yourselves against lies told about I've been there, folks.
People lie about you, and you try to defend yourself, you're still defending.
You're still on defense, and in the process, you are accepting the premise that people still think it's important to get the truth out, which is it?
Does it matter really?
It doesn't matter to the people that the Obama campaign's targeting here.
By definition, the truth doesn't matter.
They're hoping that people that don't pay any attention to politics, they're never going to turn on Fox News.
They're never going to listen to talk radio.
They're not gonna, they're just on Twitter and Facebook all day.
They might spend some time watching dancing with the stars or e-entertainment TV, MTV, whatever, and that's where they're gonna see that Romney's wife, or this guy's wife died because of Romney.
So is responding to lies with the truth the way to go.
That's what most people's gut reaction is.
But I'm telling you, when you do, you're accepting the premise and then on defense.
And you're but you remember my phrase?
By definition, when you're on defense, you're not advancing the ball.
You're not moving forward.
What has to happen, and I don't know that I'm smart enough to know how to do this, folks.
That's I I'm not in politics.
And I I think I know what has to happen in terms of how to do it.
I don't know.
I could.
If I knew how to do this kind of stuff, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing.
I wouldn't have time.
Everybody being lied about in America be paying me to fix it for them.
But what I know is that you've got to turn around, you've got to get off defense, and you have to be on offense.
Sometimes you win games on defense, but what do you do?
Recover a fumble or intercept a pass.
In baseball, how do you win a game on defense?
How do you score a run on defense in baseball?
You don't.
In football, you can, but it's really unique.
It's not a common occurrence.
You're never advancing the ball on defense unless you recover a fumble or intercept pass.
You're just holding ground, and that's the problem with it.
And I think instinctively, that's what all of us we want to see these guys under assault.
We want to see them on defense.
We want to see them running for the hills.
Problem is we're not willing to lie about them to do it.
Here's Morris's idea.
This is what he said to O'Reilly last night.
I would put Ann Romney on.
I'm going to have her say Barack Obama is running an ad saying my husband is not sensitive to people with cancer, and in fact, accusing him of helping to kill aid in the death of a woman who died from cancer.
Well, as you may know, I battled breast cancer, and I had no more supportive person than Mitt Romney.
Hmm.
How does that how that hit you?
Romney goes on TV, acknowledges the ad, they're running an ad saying a woman died of cancer because I didn't care.
Well, my wife had cancer.
My wife battled breast cancer.
Here she is, right?
It's Anne Romney.
She battled breast cancer.
And there was nobody more supportive.
Put her up there.
I had cancer.
There was nobody more supportive of me when I had cancer than my husband Mitt Romney.
My problem with that is that that makes it look like it's news that Romney would support his wife when she's got cancer.
Wouldn't we assume that?
If you have to tell people that Mitt Romney supported his wife with cancer, isn't there maybe an admission that there was some doubt about it?
That's why I've always said when people go out and deny something that has not been alleged, they look nervous.
Wait a minute, nobody accused you of that.
Why are you why why why are you denying it?
You see the problem here.
Did you think this is a good idea, Snerdley?
You don't think it's a good idea?
Why do you think it's a horrible idea?
Okay.
Okay.
That's fine.
He said everything you just said I agree with.
Well, that's I know.
That's what when I say it, there's not much left to be said.
That's actually true.
Here's uh here's Jeff and Tempe.
Nope, it's Tampa.
Didn't have my glasses.
Tampa, Florida.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Thanks, Russ.
First time caller, big time fan.
Thank you very much, sir.
Yeah, I just uh as a proud American, I'm really just disgusted in how you know Romney's being portrayed as an insensitive murderer in this.
And I don't even like to say it as a matter of fact, but wait a minute.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
I just thought of something.
There is a guy who didn't support his wife when she had cancer.
He's a Democrat, his name's John Edwards.
Yeah.
I just sorry to interrupt you.
I just had a brain explosion there, and I had to say that before I forgot it.
Start again.
You said you're disgusted at how Romney's being portrayed here as an insensitive murderer.
Yeah, and you know, even to say it, it hurts my uh hurts my heart.
But uh when the question is, what does it make uh Obama with the cylindra?
Premeditated murderer, you know, with uh knowing that the company is failing, driving it into bankruptcy.
Well, that's that that was one of my first reactions.
How about all these dealerships that Obama shut down when he bought General Motors?
How about all the people there are two million people who do not have jobs today that did have when Obama was immaculated?
How many of them have gotten sick and died?
How many of their wives or family members have gotten sick because they lost their jobs because of Obama?
I'll guarantee you this, folks, and this may be one thing to do.
You want to start talking about killing jobs, there's nobody in Barack Obama's league.
Mitt Romney saves jobs.
Mitt Romney and Bain Capital save jobs.
That is, their objective is to go in and save companies which are failing, Barack Obama is a job killer, and every bit of that is true.
Might even work to putting them on defense a little.
They clearly, by the way, they don't like being on defense.
You can tell it the way they react to this ad that Romney's running, accusing Obama of stripping the work requirements out of welfare.
They don't like that at all.
And the media doesn't like it at all.
So it's possible to put these people on defense.
You just gotta, once it happens, keep there.
The Bain Capitol saved 150 companies from bankruptcy.
And there were people that worked at these 150 companies, and that didn't go into bankruptcy.
That means the jobs there were saved.
But yeah, you can't assume that uh everybody would support their wife uh when she had cancer.
John Edwards.
Well, you tell me where I'm wrong.
You tell me where I'm wrong.
Remember this.
Uh, ladies and gentlemen, nobody benefits from driving companies into bankruptcy except maybe unions and the Democrat Party.
Certainly not Mitt Romney, certainly not Bain Captain.
Nobody benefits driving companies into bankruptcy except maybe unions and the Democrat Party.
Snerdley told me that we had a drive-by caller.
Didn't want to go on the air, didn't have time.
A little old lady, is that what you said?
Sweet, sweet little old You you tell right that Mitt Romney was sure able to lie about Newt Gingrich.
And why can't he lie about nobody who can lie about Rick Centorum?
and he can lie about every Republican primary.
He knows how to lie.
Let's see it.
Something like that, right?
She has a point.
Well, it was Romney's super PAC, but I mean they were.
Those those new those newt ads had Newt was fit to be tied.
He was so ticked off, and he didn't know what to do about it, primarily because he didn't have any money.
But those ads that Romney ad, Romney Super PAC ran against Newt, arguably took Newt out of the race in Iowa.
And I do recall saying, even myself from my own oral cavity.
I remember saying asking, actually, I was speculating.
Will Romney be as hard-hitting against Obama as he was the conservative Republicans in the Republican primary.
Now the Olympics, I mentioned that a little while ago.
I don't think that the Romney camp is going to spend a whole lot of money.
I never thought they would, while the Olympics run.
Nobody's paying attention.
Believe me, the standard operating procedure in professional politics is that the vast majority of voters are nowhere near paying attention to the election right now.
They're watching the Olympics or they're on vacation or what have you.
And they're not going to start paying attention really until the conventions, but even not even then.
It really doesn't start till after Labor Day.
That's when the real spending starts.
That's why all this fundraising is going on now.
Now, to a certain extent, that's true, but I think we've cited enough evidence, polling data and the like to suggest that people are paying attention.
We we know enough people are paying attention that 65% do not want Obamacare.
For example, here's Linda in Las Vegas.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
Hi.
Yeah, this is awesome because I've listened to you forever.
I've been a digital head for years and years.
I cannot believe I even got through.
Well, you did.
It's your big showbiz break.
I am a Panther patient, and my husband's job may be coming to an end soon.
And I because of that, I will be losing my health insurance.
So I'm looking now at what I can do if that occurs.
And I feel that this ad that Obama campaign has put through is trying to, without saying, make it look like or tell that type of Democrat that always looks for the entitlement, that even when you're hired on and you get insurance through your company, when it no longer exists anymore, it's an entitlement for that company.
to give you insurance even though it's not.
But that's their mentality.
And for myself, I need to find my own insurance and uh take responsibility for my own life.
Well, I'm sorry to hear about your your uh your cancer.
Uh I don't like hearing that about anybody.
Um you can always blame Romney.
But that that's that's what that's what the Democrats are doing.
You don't want to do that.
Well, I I can also blame Obama because of his health care uh that already is ruined insurance and also.
Linda, let me ask you a question real quickly.
Is it Obama, hasn't Obama told everybody, and he promised everybody that they're gonna have health care.
As long as Obamacare is out there, everybody's gonna have health care, and uh in many people's minds it's gonna be free.
My question for you, why just you're an average citizen, you've got cancer.
God bless you.
I want to ask, why do you think Obama is not out saying this woman that Romney killed would not die in America today because of Obamacare?
Why isn't he out touting this great achievement?
Why is he not using this great achievement of Obamacare instead of lying about Romney?
Because it's not true.
I speaking to the doctor, it's not true.
And uh he stressed that very much so to me that um because of how what care is today.
See, but Obamacare is supposed to keep your situation from ever happening.
And yet he can't go out there and tout his own achievement.
I wonder why.
Wonder why.
Wouldn't it be easier to say, well, Obamacare takes care of everything?
If Soptic's wife would have gotten cancer with Obamacare, well, she might have survived because she'd have had health care.
But he can't say that.
Why can't Obama say that, folks?
We'll be back.
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