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Aug. 7, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 7, 2012, Tuesday, Hour #2
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Mike, have that that um Romney murdered my wife ad standing by.
We're gonna get to that here again.
Greetings, my friends, and uh welcome back.
That is the subject of a Mitt Romney murdering a guy's wife at the latest uh Obama ad.
And tested among Democrat focused groups to work like a charm.
Nitt Romney, Republican presidential nominee wants guys' wives to die.
Happy to have you here, telephone number 800-288 to the email address lrushbow at EIB net.com.
Let's listen to the ad again.
Just just uh hit the airwaves today.
I think relatively might today, yesterday or the Yep.
It's a guy, Joe Soptik is his name.
I I hope that I'm pronouncing it right.
S-O-P-T-I-C.
It might be Soptic, I don't know.
I've not heard it pronounced.
But it's from Ma it's from Obama's Super PAC, which is called Priorities USA.
And it's run.
Who runs this thing?
Uh Bill Burton?
Yep.
Bill Burton, who left the Obama White House to go run the super PAC.
Here's the ad again.
When Mitt Romney and Bain closed the plan, I lost my health care.
And my family lost their health care.
And uh uh short time after that, my wife became ill.
I don't know how long she was sick.
Uh and I think maybe she didn't say anything because she knew that we we couldn't afford the insurance.
And then one day she she uh became ill, and I took her up to the Jackson County Hospital and admitted her for pneumonia, and that's when they found the cancer.
And by then it was stage four.
It was it was there was nothing they could do for her.
And she passed away in 22 days.
I do not think Mitt Romney realizes what he's done to anyone.
And I furthermore, I do not think Mitt Romney is concerned.
There you have it.
Uh Mitt Romney killed the guy's wife and didn't care about it.
Now, stick with me on this for this second, because here at the Politico, Alexander Burns, they've they've done a uh sort of a fact check on the ad.
Would you like to hear this?
By Alexander Burns, the pro-Obama Super PAC priorities USA action lobbed a heavy-duty attack at Mitt Romney this morning, airing an ad that links the closure of a GST steel plant in Kansas City to the loss of a family's health insurance and a death of a woman sometime later.
The man speaking in the ad, Joe Soptik says, Mitt Romney and Bain closed the plant.
I lost my health care, and my family lost their health care.
And a short time later, my wife became ill.
Soptic explains he's not exactly sure when his wife became sick, but that when he took her to the hospital, she had undetected advanced cancer, died 22 days later.
Now the Romney campaigns pushed back on other attacks related to the GST steel plant by arguing that the plant in Kansas City closed long after Romney stepped away from the job at Bain.
The Democrats counter that Romney was still listed as a top executive at Bain through 2002, and that he built up the private equity firm during the time it invested GST steel.
So even though he wasn't there, he was there.
We don't care when Romney left.
He was still there.
Now in the case of this particularly jarring super PAC ad.
Yes.
This particularly jarring ad, it may also be relevant, right to the politico, that Soptik's wife died in 2006, years after the factory closed down, not days as it's made to sound here.
A 2006 story in the Kansas City SCAR reported the death of Renee Soptik, a former champion roller skater.
Quote, Soptic went to the hospital for pneumonia.
Doctors found signs of very advanced cancer.
She died two weeks later on June 22nd.
So Burns here, the political says, I asked Priorities USA strategist Bill Burton to explain the connection between Romney and Bain and a cancer fatality that happened uh happened near the end of Romney's tenure as governor of Massachusetts.
He was long gone.
He was gone by four years when this happened.
The lapse in time between the plant closing and Soptic's death doesn't mean the ad is invalid, says Politico, but it raises questions about the cause and effect relationship.
Oh, that's all.
It doesn't mean the ad's invalid, it just raises cause and effect relationship.
Burton said, well, look, we're illustrating how long it took for communities, individuals to recover from the closing of these businesses that Romney shut down.
Families and individuals had to find new jobs, new sources of health insurance, uh, way to make up for the pensions they lost.
Mitt Romney has had an enduring impact on the life of thousands of men and women, and for many of them, that impact has been devastating, as in death.
Romney didn't kill just this woman.
Many others have died because of Romney and Bain.
That's what Burton is implying here.
And then this guy writing at Politico says, like most of the outside group ads in the 2012 race, the fairness of this one is open to interpretation.
Really?
An ad accusing Romney of murder?
Second degree is open to interpretation.
But both this ad and the new welfare themed ad that hits on Obama from the Romney campaign are provoking more intense outrage both publicly and privately than most of the other spots we've seen this.
Well, let's play that ad.
Here is the Romney ad.
It's audio summit number three.
This is the Romney ad on the fact that Obama has just taken the work requirements out of welfare reform.
Obama has just killed welfare reform.
If we're going to talk about death here, Obama unilaterally took the work requirements out of welfare reform.
And since the press hasn't reported it, Romney put an ad together.
You just heard the Obama ad accusing Romney of murder four or five years after he leaves Bain Capitol.
Oh, and by the way, folks, let me let me ask you a very, very quick question.
How would have Obama helped this unemployed guy, Mr. Soptik, who didn't have insurance?
He would have been fined.
Under Obamacare, Mr. Soptik here would be fined for not having health insurance.
Well, don't look at me.
That's the law of the land according to Obamacare.
I wonder if anybody's told Mr. Soptik.
You know, Obama's president and Bain closes down your steel plant, and you don't have health insurance.
Guess what?
You get fined.
You either pay a fine, pay a penalty, or you go get health insurance on your own.
Somehow, some way.
That's what Obama would have done for the guy.
What are we doing with soon Obama would have saved his wife?
Does Obama cure stage four cancer?
Does Obama prevent stage four cancer?
Is that what Obamacare prevents stage four cancer?
But if it slips past Obamacare, then Obamacare cures it?
Is that what we're supposed to believe from this stupid insulting ad?
The truth of the matter is that Mr. Soptik in these exact circumstances loses his health care under Obamacare, the IRS is going to track him down and levy upon him a fine.
Here is Romney.
Now keep in mind, we just said this ad, Romney kills people.
Now we got the Romney ad on Obama and welfare reform, and these two ads have been placed in about the same disgusting sphere by Politico.
In 1996, President Clinton and a bipartisan Congress helped end welfare as we know it.
By requiring work for welfare.
But on July 12th, President Obama quietly announced a plan to gut welfare reform by dropping work requirements.
Under Obama's plan, you wouldn't have to work and wouldn't have to train for a job.
They Just send you your welfare check.
And welfare to work goes back to being plain old welfare.
Mitt Romney will restore the work requirement because it works.
Politico says both the Soptic and the ad you just heard are provoking intense outrage publicly and privately.
More intense than we can remember this summer.
What in the world's outrageous about this ad you just heard?
What's offensive about it?
What allegation in it is is is is um blow the belt.
What where's the dirt?
Where's the filth in that ad?
Where are the implied accusations?
Anybody died because somebody didn't care.
The whole point of the Soptic ad is that the poor guy's wife died because Mitt Romney didn't care.
He even says it in the ad.
I don't think Romney realizes what he's done to anybody.
Furthermore, I don't think Romney's even concerned.
Romney doesn't care who he kills.
That's the theme of that ad.
And now Romney's ad telling the truth about Obama gutting welfare reform is somehow lumped in the same sphere and the same category.
Wayne Alan Root.
Name ring a bell.
I first heard of Wayne Root because this guy was uh well he uh he was an expert.
Well, he he um he he made a living advising people on picking NFL and college football games based on the point spread.
He's an odds maker.
I remember watching him uh back when I lived in Kansas City in the 70s, early 80s.
On Saturday morning, USA had this uh couple three shows of people that you know did the uh point spread line by line that day and that weekend for college and football games and gave their advice and picks.
And that's where I first heard of Wayne Allen Ruder.
Well, he's written a couple of pieces, apparently went to Columbia University.
At the same time Obama went.
He doesn't remember Obama.
And he doesn't know anybody else who remembers Obama.
He can't figure out how Obama got in there.
He's not even sure Obama went there.
He's written about it.
I'll share that with you when we come back after this brief timeout, and we'll also get to your phones rather soon, so don't go away.
Okay, we're back.
Ill rush both serving humanity, nailing it, cutting through all the noise.
There's a lot of noise out there, folks.
But you gotta cut through it.
So what would have happened?
This woman, Mrs. Somptic, died seven years after Mitt Romney left Bain Capitol, and yet Obama's super pack is running an ad that Romney essentially killed her.
Uh because they took over the steel plant, and of course Romney's company, all they wanted to do was destroy companies, uh, take the money out of them, loot the company, and shut the company down.
That's how Romney got rich.
He's shutting down everything.
Romney was a destroyer.
That's what he did.
He went on there, took over all these companies, shut them down, and gave nobody any health care when he closed the businesses and everybody's spouses died.
And Romney didn't care about it.
This woman dies seven years after Romney left Bain.
Romney left Bain in 1999.
The woman died in 2006.
Okay.
Even the Washington Post, that'd be Washington, for those of you in Rio Linda, said in an article on the Obama ad today that it's a lie.
Even the Washington, the political couldn't bring themselves to say it was a lie, but the Post does.
They point out that the Republican candidate, that'd be Romney, left Bain before the steel plant went bankrupt.
Obama's team has argued the story's fair because Romney was at Bain when the initial investment was made.
What the hell kind of a connection that?
So Romney was there when they bought the steel company.
He leaves in 1999.
Six years later the woman dies.
Doesn't matter.
He was there.
Why'd they buy it?
He tried to save that steel plant.
Bain Capital tried to save that steel plant.
So Romney is to blame because Bain tried to save GST Steel.
And now let's put the final nail in the coffin here.
That GST Steel Company was shut down when an Obama bundler was running that part of Bain Capitol.
An Obama bundler, a current Obama bundler, ran Bain Capitol at the time Mr. Soptik was put out of work.
And now we have an ad from Obama Super PAC that Romney essentially killed this woman and doesn't care about it.
And you know, it's really tough in politics, Mr. Lindbaugh, but it's fair and I mean that you can you can I it's a stretch, but we can see the connection here at the at the politico.
We can definitely see the connection.
Jonathan Levine, L A V I N E, I'm assuming he pronounces it Levine, managing director at Bain, who has bundled between a hundred grand and two hundred grand in donations for Obama 2012, was one of the guys running Ban when this steel company went belly up.
Now, let's ask something else that needs to be said here.
This guy in the ad.
I took her to Jackson County Hospital, admitted her for pneumonia, and that's when they found the cancer.
Stage four.
But earlier he said my health care was lost, my family lost their health care, and a short time later my wife became she got health care.
The guy in the end admits he took her to the hospital.
She got health care.
She was not denied health care.
He might not have had insurance, and she might not have, but she went to the hospital.
And she got health care.
Whether she had insurance or not, she got health care.
Health care was not denied.
Her death was not due to lack of health care.
I know, I know, I know, I know.
I've got to back out.
Folks, I can't.
This this is where I get interested.
Way too honest here.
This is way too insensitive.
And I can't do this.
And I can't if I if it's gonna be fluck all over again if I go any further with this.
If I go any further with this, it's that a whole thing is gonna turn around and be about me now.
Man's wife died, limbos down to the Yep, but you know I'm dying to go forward and close the loop on all this, but see, here we are.
My staff on the other side of the glass is begging me to shut up.
Don't say anymore.
Go, you're already hip deep.
My God, do you want to drown today?
And all I'm doing is telling you the truth.
That's all I am doing.
Telling you the truth about this ad.
I'm just gonna tell you, she got she got health care.
She got her health care.
Well, um read a transcript.
Okay.
When Mitt Romney and Bain closed the plant, I lost my health care.
And my family lost their health care.
Okay, lost health care.
Realville here that don't have health care anymore.
What that means, right?
A short time later, after that, my wife became ill.
Don't know how long she was sick, but I think maybe she didn't say anything because she knew we couldn't afford the insurance.
One day she became ill, and I took her to the hospital and admitted her for pneumonia, and that's when they found the cancer.
Boy, folks, this lost the insurance.
They went to the hospital and they found what they thought was pneumonia, and that was cancer.
They got health care.
Um I don't know how long she was sick.
Okay, I'm not going to go.
Okay.
You ought to see them on the other side of the glass.
They are standing up in there, waving their arms like football referees, signaling a field goal is no good.
They're shouting and screaming.
They're saying we get it shut up.
And why are they telling me to shut it?
Because I can't you can't be truthful.
So who go to the hospital after many years and months being sick to find out whether you're sick?
Uh who like um?
Hi, welcome back, Rush Limbaugh speaking truth to power until the staff gets scared here on the EIB network, 800 282882.
A couple of questions here, uh, ladies and gentlemen.
Any of the people who had uh General Motors and Chrysler dealerships when Obama shut them down.
Have we heard any stories of any of them uh coming down with uh cancer and dying?
How many people that owned General Motors and Chrysler dealerships and were shut down by Obama when he bought General Motors for the unions?
How many of those people got sick, maybe?
How many of them lost their health insurance because Obama shut down dealerships, closed them down?
And how many of them got cancer?
How about all the General Motors and Chrysler workers who were not UAW, who lost their health care and pensions, did any of them ever get cancer and die after Obama took over General Motors and Chrysler.
For the un did any of the uh workers at NASA when Obama shut down the space shuttle program, anybody in the manned space space flight division in NASA, any of them gotten cancer since the division was shut down?
Any of them been unable to get health care if any of them died.
Any of the Department of Defense workers who have been fired under Obama have uh uh any of them ever gotten cancer.
You know what they're saying about Romney's ad on welfare reform?
And how Obama took the work requirements out of it.
Obama's truth team, and they actually have a truth team, they have just tweeted the following.
Romney's welfare message, false, contradictory, and fraught with racial undertones.
So Romney's ad on Obama taking the worth require work requirements out of health out of uh welfare reform is uh racist.
Let's go to the phones.
I'll get to Wayne Root here in just a second.
Here's Bugsy.
Oh I just was Bugsy in Chicago.
You know what you you remind me, one of my all-time favorite movies, a movie Jerry Lewis, the family jewels.
Uh still got mine.
And yeah, not for long in Chicago.
And uh he played a bunch of different characters in that movie, and one of them was a gangster, Bugsy Payton.
And I used to be able to do a perfect impersonation of the voice that Jerry Lewis used for the character in that movie.
So I look up there and I see Bugsy in Chicago.
I did a double take.
Anyway, welcome to the program.
Good to have you here.
Hey, same here.
There's about a five-step uh process, I guess, to gracefully um losing power.
And I think, you know, this guy here, he's he's uh our present on the way.
First you have to apologize to the other countries.
Which he's done.
Uh you know, then you kind of have to send your manufacturing to them, so it's kind of a goodwill gesture.
So you deplete all your manufacturing.
Then you gotta bankrupt our own country by giving away uh like entitlements and good old uh what is it's uh cylindra and all this other stuff just blowing through all our money like water and making a good uh national debt uh give away the military or just stop the military from uh increasing or uh degradate your military.
Don't forget don't forget uh shutting down much of the oil industry and allowing the Chiccoms to buy all that oil from Canada instead of us.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean that's that's that's gracefully uh giving up global power.
Well then you got to accuse the other party of doing what you just did.
Yeah.
Now they're to blame for all this, like you were just saying with Romney and uh this poor lady dying because she was sick for who knows how long, so she could have gone to the doctor's.
I don't look back either of the You can't say that this woman could have gone to the hospital and all those who do you think you are?
The memory of this woman is immortalizing this ad.
Be very careful, Bugsy.
We're here to protect not just me, but you.
But you know, this guy's on his way, and uh the people believe what they believe, and as long as you can blame everybody else for the dog poop on your life.
Well, you know where I make my mistake.
I just figured I tell you where I make my and that is not very many mistakes.
So when I say where I make my mistake, I and I'm an idiot.
I foolishly, blindly, stupidly, doom coughly assume that everybody wants to provide for themselves.
How silly.
I live that I do.
I assume that everybody's trying to forge their way in the world, and everybody's trying to make their mark, and everybody's trying to climb their ladder, and everybody is trying to accomplish something, enjoy success, become the best they can be.
I assume that that's what most people are trying to do.
That's where I'm wrong.
That's that's that's where I'm wrong.
I I I I I assume that most people are going to buy, pay for their own car.
I I assume most people are going to pay for their own food.
I assume most people are going to uh pay for own house.
Um I'm just dumb in in that regard.
A lot of people don't think that that's a responsibility of their own anymore.
See, I I think that everybody's like me.
I think that everybody is blessed and understandingly blessed with incomparable freedom that people around the world don't have, and that the roads out there for 'em is fast as they want to travel, much as they want to do.
And I just I I I make the mistake of assuming that that's the vast majority of the people in the country.
It used to be.
It used to be.
I don't know.
I don't I hope we're not down to half.
I hope it's I hope there's still more than half that look at life as a triumph of rugged individualism and self-reliance and and uh uh not selfishness.
It's a big difference.
Self-reliance and selfishness are two separate things.
You know, self-interest is a great thing.
It's not selfishness.
Anyway, Bugsy.
I appreciate the call.
This is Samantha from Cincinnati.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Russ.
Good to talk to you.
Thank you.
You know, rebels always get the opposite of what they want.
Um Romney was not my first choice.
Uh honestly, he wasn't my fifth.
But I gotta tell you, this administration and the way they're campaigning has been able to do what the GOP establishment hasn't.
These ads and these ridiculous, insulting things that you hear about Romney have reminded me that we have got to get Obama out of there.
Amen.
And we have got to get out the vote, and we have got to slow the bleeding.
You are you are singing my tune, and you are you are you're m s we're the same melody here and in the same key.
You uh we're none of us want to decline much less gracefully, right?
Exactly.
So I don't know what it took.
Maybe this ad, but I'm glad that uh that you've that you've uh come to the conclusion that you have.
Well, I think most of us are logical creatures, and we'll come to that conclusion on voting day.
But uh you know, it's just uh it's ridiculous.
The the the leaps of logic that they take are just are just not there, and I hope everybody's paying attention.
It's nothing new.
They've been accusing Republicans of this.
Killing people, wanting to kill people, poison the water poison the air, E. coli, Ebola, uh dyspepsia, you name it.
We've we've been in favor of it.
We we want to destroy businesses.
We want to kill people.
Uh imagine the pro-life party.
Wants to poison everybody else.
Save the babies and poison everybody else.
Do I think yeah, I guess you might say maybe some people would just ask you.
Let me just ask you.
Do you think that there are people who would rather die than pay for their own health care?
You don't?
You really don't.
You don't think there are people who would rather die than pay for their own health care.
You don't.
Boy, it's a good thing you shut me down when you shut me down.
You don't think you just you just think.
So I'm uh uh being warned not to add another phrase to this.
You don't think that some people would rather die than pay for their own health care?
Well, this just shows me.
This just shows me what I'm really up against here as a host.
Um apparently I you're you're you're asking me, you're telling you telling me you think I believe that there are people who'd rather die than pay for their own health care.
I I look I why do you think I'm asking you the question?
Why do you all why am I raising that?
Why am I asking the question?
What why I'm why am I asking are there some people would rather die than pay for their own health care?
What's happened today that would make me ask that?
We'll be back.
Don't don't go.
Okay, Grab Audio Summit number 23, the White House press briefing, and the spokes kid Jay Carney was asked about the latest Obama ad in which Romney is accused of killing a guy's wife.
The question comes from CNN uh White House correspondent Brianna Kalar.
The priority super pack has an ad out today, Jay, that features a man who used to work in a steel plant and it closed in 2001.
This was after it was acquired by Bain Capitol.
The implication is that Mint Romney bears responsibility for the death of this man's wife, because he lost his insurance when the plant closed, and then in in 2001 and then in 2006, five years later, Jay, uh his wife who was uninsured at the time died of cancer.
I'm wondering if the president believes that Mitt Romney shares responsibility in her death.
You know, I have not seen the ad, and I would refer you to the campaign or to the organization.
But I can't count on that.
You just took a very...
I'm simply saying that I have not seen this, so how could I possibly assess it without...
But you can will you assess it later?
If you ask me tomorrow, sure.
But I just told you what's in it.
Well, I can't assess it until I seen it.
Well, okay.
Jay, will you attach it tomorrow then?
After you take a look at it, Jay, will you assess it?
Then when you answer my question tomorrow, Jay, yep, yep.
If you ask me tomorrow, sure.
If I call if I call on you tomorrow, after I'm told what to say about it tomorrow.
If we get some life out of this thing and it's still alive to it.
Yeah, I'll be glad to tell you how Romney killed the guy's wife tomorrow.
Uh let's see.
He's also uh uh Carney is going through backflips to uh keep from saying anything negative about the smears that Harry Reid's engaging in here.
Okay, Jordan in Daytona Beach, Florida.
I'm glad you waited.
You're next on the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
It's an honor to speak with you today.
Thank you, El Mucho.
Uh, my dad and I were talking last night while watching the news, and uh Dingy Sherry's accusations came up in our conversation, so I decided to give you a call with a comment.
Um, and my comment for you today is I find it so uh hypocritically baseless of the left to accuse Romney of not paying any taxes for ten years when in just the two years he did release taxes, he paid more as an individual than GE did as an entire corporation in 2010 on five point one billion dollars of U.S. profits.
In fact, GE went on to get a 3.2 billion dollar tax refund.
And I think their anger is both hit uh hypocritical and misplaced.
Well, yeah, you're absolutely right, and you're looking at it as a resident of Realville Wood.
You're looking at it uh purely logical, common sensical, and in so doing, you are uh way above the the point that they're trying to make it.
All they want is those returns.
I'll tell you what I've heard.
I tell you what I've heard.
Well, no, we've got a bite.
We got a bite.
Let me find the bite.
Uh, okay.
Uh hang on, hang on.
This is a bite.
Cookie, what's the bite with a hundred million in it?
What's the bite?
What's the number?
Uh C. Hang on here, folks.
Hang on.
So it's uh what's the bite with 100 million?
Uh well, I don't know.
Oh, yeah, number 17.
It's this clown at CNBC, Aaron Sorkin, not Aaron Sorkin.
Donald Dunk Sorkin, whatever it is, uh Aaron Andrew Rossorkin.
Listen to this.
This is this morning on CNBC Squawk Box, and they got Trump on there.
Trump's on, and the co-host is Andrew Ross Sorkin, and Joe Kernan is part of this.
And the uh question is Donald, do you know anybody who has a hundred million dollars in their IRA?
Yeah.
You do?
Yeah.
I there are people.
It's a rollover.
People exist.
No, but there's been a big thing.
That's been a good one.
That's part of what the whole debate is about, right?
100 million dollars is a lot to get in there in terms of how he did it.
He did it through putting in uh units from Bain that were at these what people thought was a very low basis that grew and there were there are questions about that.
Potentially reasonable questions.
See, now that this is thought to be a window on what they want.
This Andre Andrew Ross Sorkin guy has heard that Romney has a hundred million in his IRA, and that's why they want Romney's tax returns is to see that because they believe that if they highlight that Romney has a hundred million dollars in his IRA, that people will resent Romney because nobody has a hundred million dollars in their IRA.
So, A, if he has a hundred million dollars in his IRA, how the how was he able to put a hundred million in there?
A, and B, golly, he got a hundred million dollars.
This guy is a rich mean SOB.
That's that's that's what they want the tax returns.
There are people that work at the IRS that track you down if you haven't paid taxes in ten years.
That's what tax resolution services are sponsors all about.
Helping people you don't uh it's this is another thing that we end up it's it's so absurd.
Here we are talking about look at look if okay.
Here we are.
Republicans are poisoned the water and poison the air.
Spread E. coli Ebola.
The Republicans and Mitt Romney killed a guy, his wife when he shut down Bain Capital by canceling a health insurance.
Romney doesn't care.
This woman got cancer because of Mitt Romney.
Mitt Romney cared just like Ken Starr was passing out cigarettes To kids in the playground while he was investigating Bill Clinton back during the Lewinsky business.
And then, on top of all that, Republicans have been running around for 25 years and stealing money from the poor and giving it to themselves.
And that's how they got rich.
And it's time it all came to a stop.
Okay, so yesterday, folks, I warned you on this NFL stuff and the coming ban that they will politicize anything.
Concussions, and people were poo-pooing, but you know what?
They've just politicized a heretofore anonymous woman's death for their own advantage.
And put it in an ad for Obama.
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