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May 11, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 11, 2012, Friday, Hour #3
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Yeah, just looking at the um audio sound.
I guess eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen.
Yeah, yeah, it's uh by the way, it's Friday.
Live from the Southern Command in Sunny South Florida, it's open live Friday.
It's been a busy broadcast day, folks.
I don't know when a time is I mean, zipping by here we are already at the third hour.
Just another sterling program.
I impress even me with our ability to get to the guy calls from Illinois about his unemployment benefits ending, and inside of 30 minutes, we got the whole story for everybody.
There is no other show on which this would happen.
Plus, you're told the right thing to think about it too, as a bonus.
Happy to have you with us, 800-282-2882, the email address.
Lrushbow at EIBNet.com.
I guess I get you have audio soundlight number 23 standing by too.
That's um that's uh Jamie Grumette.
She's the mother on the Time Magazine cover.
Folks, if you haven't, if you you haven't seen our take on the time cover, you gotta make a beeline to Rush Limbaugh.com.
We had that time cover.
I got it yesterday afternoon.
I showed it to you here on the Ditto Cam.
We were first with it, and then on the air in a in a in a uh a spurt of literal creative brilliance.
I ordered uh asked the art director at uh at Rush Limbaugh.com to redo the time cover with the kid sucking uh the breast of the Statue of Liberty and re-headline it as uh Obama's uh education program for America were written by me.
And so we did, and if you haven't seen it, you need to go to Rush Limbaugh.com.
We've got them side by side, the time cover and our version of it.
Uh well, uh he's saying I didn't know that the Statue of Liberty had those kind of breasts.
Neither did we until our art director found it underneath the robes.
It's all handled.
You can you can see it.
It's it's uh it's all there.
So open line Friday, whatever you want to talk about is fine.
800-282-2882 if you want to be on the program.
The uh email address lrushbow at eIBNet.com.
Uh I got some questions during the uh top of the hour.
How in the world is illegals get all this tax refund money?
Here's what basically they did.
The scheme, it's not it's not the earned income tax credit.
Uh the scheme involves illegal immigrants filing tax returns.
Which is okay.
What they do is claim credits for multiple dependents under their support in their quote unquote their U.S. household.
And they get enormous cash refunds because not enough has been withheld from their paychecks.
They've got all these dependents, but on their W4, they didn't put enough dependents down.
So for example, one illegal immigrant's tax return showed income of over 14,000, and the refund was over 10,300 because of all the dependents that were not accounted for in the withholding table during each pay period.
This actually was uncovered by a TV reporter in Indianapolis, the NBC affiliate Bob Seagull.
And I it's S-E-G-A-L-L.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing his name right.
But his investigation revealed that claims for additional child tax credits by ITIN filers.
Have skyrocketed during the last ten years from $161 million in 2001 to a total amount refunded in the form of credits, cash refunds that totaled 4.2 billion dollars in tax year 2010.
So the imaginary children of illegal immigrants, because they're claiming dependents that may or may not live, may or may not be in the house, and it totaled 4.2 billion dollars.
The same investigative reporter found that illegal immigrants filed three million tax returns in 2010, 72% of those returns claiming the additional child tax credit.
And furthermore, according to the report from the TV uh reporter, says the IRS cannot change the system unless it gets permission from Congress.
It's a loophole, and closing it requires lawmakers to pass a new law specifically excluding illegal immigrants from claiming additional child tax credits.
Well, I don't think that's gonna happen.
Do you?
Particularly this year, do you see anybody in an election year passing a new law excluding illegal immigrants from claiming additional child tax credits?
It'd be an American to do that.
Why, next thing you know, the Republicans will want to take away their health care.
But the next thing you know, the Republicans will want them fired and deported.
Why, the next thing you know, can I mean so?
We just have to live with it out there, folks.
4.2 billion for tax year 2010 in cash payments to illegals for their child, quote unquote dependence.
Edward Klein has a book called uh uh what's the name of the book?
I've got uh.
Maybe it's called the amateur.
Yeah.
I think it's called the amateur.
Here's some quotes from the book by Edward Klein, Bill Clinton.
Obama doesn't know how to be president.
I mean, he doesn't even know how the world works.
He's incompetent.
Page 11.
Caroline Kennedy, who supported Obama over Hillary Clinton on page 153.
I can't stand to hear his voice anymore.
He's a liar and worse.
Caroline Kennedy talking about Obama.
David Schein, S-Ch E I N M D, Barack Obama's former doctor.
By which I mean he's academic, lacks passion and feeling, doesn't have the sense of humanity that I expected.
In fact, I've got that story right here, folks.
Right, here it is.
President Obama's former doctor claims the president lacks passion, feeling, and humanity.
Quote from the story, it's in human events.
Obama's not the political machine that people fear.
He's an amateur with a messianic complex who's completely out of his depth.
In an exclusive preview of the amateur by human events, that's the name of the book.
Obama's longtime physician reveals the lack of humanity in Obama's character and carelessness with which he enacted the entirely politicized health insurance reform, often called Obamacare.
The doctor fears that if the health care plan is the failure he believes it will be because of runaway costs and other problems that any health reform will be set back years to come.
This Dr. David Schiner, MD, blasts Obama's health care plan, says that Obama has an academic detachment.
This is this is exactly the way I've fought.
It's exactly what I've said.
He's a theoretician.
He's one of these uh faculty lounge guys, sits around talking with other theoreticians, happen to be smart in their own minds, socialist utopian kind of guys who think they've got all the answers.
It's country's unjust and immoral, unfair from the days of its founding.
In an exclusive preview of the amateur by human events, Obama's longtime doctor reveals the lack of humanity in Obama's character and carelessness with which he enacted the health care plan.
Lack of humanity, what will that be?
Oh.
Sometimes even I forget the depth of the recession, said Obama in Seattle.
Here's some other quotes from the book.
Businessman and early financial supporter Stephen Rogers.
What you have with Barack Obama is a lack of character.
There's a much, much more colorful quote from Rogers that precedes this one.
But that was on page 33.
A famous historian who'd rather not be named after an off-the-record meeting with Obama at the White House, he hasn't been able to bring together the best and brightest talents.
Not to put a too fine point on it, but he's in over his head.
Oprah Winfrey in this book is quoted as saying, Michelle hates fat people, doesn't want me waddling around the White House, page 143.
That's Oprah Winfrey quoted in Ed Klein's new book, The Amateur.
Michelle hates fat people and doesn't want me waddling around the White House.
A major Obama donor speaking about Valerie Jarrett on page 92.
I expected her to be smarter.
She ain't no Carl Rove.
If Carl Rove would eat her for breakfast.
Bill urged Hillary to quit the cabinet and run into primaries this year.
Bill Clinton, because Obama's an amateur, wanted her.
He's the country's going, the economy's the economy stinks.
I mean, Clinton in this book rips Obama to shreds.
I mean, Clinton in this book rips Obama to shreds.
Barack Obama, Bill Clinton said, is an amateur.
According to the book, Bill Clinton on the loaded on Obama and pressed Hillary to run against him during a gathering in the ex-president's home orifice in Chappaqua last August that include a longtime friends.
Clinton said Obama's incompetent.
But Hillary resisted, according to two of the guests interviewed for the book.
She said to Bill, why risk everything now?
Emphasizing she wanted to leave a legacy as Secretary of State.
But Bill Clinton said to Hillary, because a country needs you, a country needs us.
It's a quote.
Clinton later even joked about the prospect of having two Clinton presidential libraries.
Now he said here that the Clintons are denying this, the White House is denying all these quotes.
But I mean, this is a lot of people.
It's not just Bill Clinton being quoted as calling Obama an amateur and incompetent and ruining the economy.
He wanted Hillary to run because he thinks it'd be easy to save the economy.
He thinks Clinton thinks it'd be easy to revive this economy and get all the credit in the world for it to be one of the greatest presidents ever.
Man, he's got a point.
There's a way out of this.
It does involve getting rid of everything Obama's done.
And reinstituting capitalism, getting rid of every reform, everything philosophically, practically reality, get rid of everything Obama's done, and simply go back to America the way it was.
Clinton says this is a sitting duck.
This economy is anyone could revive it.
Just stop everything Obama's doing.
And then you get credit for being one of the greatest presidents ever.
And that's why he wanted Hillary to do it, and he also wanted to be involved, according to Ed Klein in the book entitled The Amateur.
But I have to tell you, if the quotes are accurate, it's just possible that old Bill doesn't quite understand Obama.
Because if Clinton doesn't believe that this is the way Obama wants it to be, economically, I mean, if if if Clinton, when you when you say Obama's an amateur, you're basically saying in over his head doesn't know what he's doing.
My contention is just the opposite.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
He's got a chip on his shoulder about this country.
he's doing exactly what he wants to this country.
He is causing the economic decline that he wants.
And if Clinton's out there thinking that all this is happening because Obama's really trying, really trying to get the economy going, but just an amateur to know what he's doing is incompetent over his head.
I don't think Clinton understands who Obama is.
I don't think Clinton, if again, this is all based on whether the quotes in the book are accurate, but I'll just proceed on the basis that they are.
In that case, Clinton can't get his arms around the fact how opposed to this country as it's always been, Obama is.
And I must tell you, folks, I as as I you and I watch these events and this economic destruction happen each and every day.
I do ask, is there not one Democrat out there who doesn't like what's going on?
Just for the sake of his party.
Is this really what this they want this country to be?
I know that a lot of Democrats do.
I'm at is there just one, I'm asking.
I know that the Democrat Party's totally gone now, the radical, radical statists, Marxists.
But isn't there one somewhere, I mean, in a position of power and authority within the party structure who has a an understanding here of what's being done and that there's not going to be much left for anybody, including them.
And if the quotes are true, why is Clinton out campaigning for Obama now?
Which he is.
Clinton is out campaigning for Obama.
But if these quotes are true, then why why do that?
Party loyalty, of course, yes.
But that's not putting the country first.
If you're running around actively advocating the re-election of somebody you think is an amateur and an incompetent, then why?
It's open line Friday, and back to the phones.
Livington, New Jersey.
Hi, Lucy.
Great to have you on the program.
Hi, Rash.
Thank you for accepting my call.
You are a welcome.
It's a great honor to speak with you.
Thank you very much.
You know, I came to United States in the August of last year.
I got married, and now I live in New Jersey.
Uh where did you come from?
I I came from Armenia.
Yerevan.
Yes.
Yes.
Uh, you know what?
I I I love United States.
I love a lot of things about United States.
But what I'm impressed and amazed very much, it's like freedom of speech, you know.
It's um before when I was living in Yerevan, you know, I have heard uh about uh the freedom of speech about how USA is great.
But right now I'm starting to understand it more and more.
And you know, it's really uh Americans are very lucky just because they have freedom of speech, second because they have Rosh Limbo, who provides them the truth all about politic and economic situation here.
I think many people take that for granted.
You are wise to uh understand that.
You know, I understand because I have things to compare with.
Because in country from where I am, uh the freedom of speech is like some uh it's very dangerous thing.
You're gonna pay a high price for that.
And uh Well, I have to tell you, said Lucy, there are many people in this country who think they they have a great fear that we are headed in that direction.
By no means there, but there are people in this country who are afraid right now to be overheard.
Yeah.
Saying certain things, afraid it will be reported to somebody or afraid that they'll be condemned.
And there are attacks.
I mean, I'm I'm attacked for what I say, and a lot of people are, and and when when other people are not.
Uh but it that's part of the political process in my case.
But they're uh freedom of speech is still alive and well in this country, but censorship is all over the place.
It's called political correctness, or in some cases flat out censorship.
They're uh their intimidation is constant to try to get people shut up.
You know, uh but um you know, in Armenia, it's just dangerous.
People can't and journalists can be killed there just because they are speaking through as you d do now.
Well, we we um don't know of any instances of that.
Uh journalists being uh being killed.
You know what I want to say that as long as United States has freedom of speech, and as long as here nobody's above the law, even the president, as long as the uh elections here are free and free and fair, the future I can see the future of United States very bright.
You know what I mean?
I'm very soft.
No, I understand totally what you what I find fascinating about this is that you are a recent arrival from a very oppressive place.
So your point of reference, we look uh f the freest anyone can imagine.
And we are.
But people in this country have a different frame of reference or point of reference, and and they see the erosion of freedom of speech that you see as something wide open.
Is there a national organization for women chapter in uh in in your country?
No.
Sadly this, yeah.
Afraid of that.
Back to the phones.
And it is Ken in Kingsport, Tennessee.
Welcome to Open Line Friday.
Hello.
Rush, Megadettoes from Kingsport, Tennessee.
How are you, sir?
Very well, sir.
Thanks very much for the call.
Thank you very much.
I've called to discuss the tea rush.
I want to know something about the tea.
All right.
I have not tried the tea yet.
And I have gone to the TFI tea website and I cannot make up my mind as to which flavor I want.
So what I want to discuss with you is uh I want to make a request, a request for you to produce a variety pack where I can sample all the wonderful tea flavors in one case.
We we have that.
We have a variety of it.
You buy a case of blueberry, you buy a case of raspberry, you buy a case of peach, and uh you buy a case of uh regular and a case of unsweetened.
Rush, one man can only hold so much tea.
Yeah, I we uh we get this request uh somewhat frequently.
That's a perfectly reasonable request.
Uh except it isn't bottled that way, and it's packaged right as it comes off the uh the bottling line, the assembly line.
Um it's it's shrink-wrapped and and it's all part of the automation process.
So this would require uh uh a whole ramping up uh of assembly and packaging that would not be automated since it's not bottled that way.
And that would uh elevate the cost.
But but we're looking at it.
Uh we always do.
It's like w we came out with the the the plain old tea, unsweetened, because we're diluted.
Deluged.
Diluted.
I might be that too.
We were it's been a long week.
I can't tell I only had an hour of show prep this morning, and I feel so inadequate here.
I I really I really feel like I've let everybody down, and I feel like I've I've because I a bunch of stuff this morning took longer than I thought it would take.
Anyway, we are deluged with requests here for for the plain old tea.
Uh we're we're s we're coming up on a year now.
And so we finally uh we finally did it.
And we the same rigorous testing process, taste testing.
Um the same great care and concern went into the label design, and it's clever.
So nothing is ever off the table of possibility.
And I appreciate your concern.
The thing I I would suggest to you, um, since you don't know which to buy, you've got to dip your toe in the water somewhere.
And uh until, of course, now this you're gonna laugh at this, until we came out with a peach and blueberry.
The raspberry was my favorite.
And I I really don't think you could go wrong.
I the the raspberry, either regular or diet will knock your socks off.
But so will the peach and blueberry.
The blueberry is incomparable, and you won't you won't find that anywhere else.
And blueberry is truly the blueberry flavored tea is truly something you can't do yourself.
You could theoretically brew some tea and squeeze a peach in there.
Uh and we don't do lemon because anybody can add lemon uh to their tea.
Uh Raspberry and blueberry, that's uh that requires trained professionals.
Um and we have we have food scientists that concoct these recipes that we taste rigorously and then make our decision.
Catherine and I do this.
And we uh we've hit gold with eat with each one.
I would suggest you try the raspberry first.
But see, now now people like the blueberry are shouting and it's certainly shouting blueberry and so forth.
But um there's a there's another alternative you could do um using my creative uh marketing juice here.
Assemble a group of friends, and each one of you buy one case.
And then swap.
And have your own tea party.
You kill two or three birds with one stone there.
You get five people, each buying one case of each flavor, sugared or or or well, regular diet, and then you swap them out.
Our tea.
Here's the thing.
Two if by tea is a science, and as such, there is no consensus as to which one's the best.
It's totally totally up to you.
That would be my suggestion until we get around to finding the variety pack or the uh or the sample pack.
Uh PICO, EMIME.
PICO, thank you for waiting.
You're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Okay, God bless you, Mr. Limbaugh, and thank you for taking my call.
Thank you, sir.
Um screenwriter thought I was kidding, but I promise you I'm not joking at all.
Uh for the last couple of years, I've been giving careful consideration, asking myself why I'm working.
Um I have five children between my wife and I, and between all the taxes that I pay, whether you know FICA and Federal and whatnot.
Um and after everything, we've we've never gotten money from the government in any way, shape, or form, uh, by the way.
I I hear you.
No unemployment insurance, never.
Nothing, nothing.
I've I've never wanted it.
I've never, and God needed it.
I understand.
I totally I'm with you.
Well, aside from the moral component, my question to you, sir, with your wisdom, and you are most certainly very wise, sir.
Why should I um I live a very modest life.
We live in a three-bedroom, two-bath house.
I I personally know many, many people down here in South Florida.
I know fraud runs rampant and everything else, but I know people who legitimately make more money than I do, and they don't work.
They collect wick, they collect unemployment, they col they've got all sorts of things that it it just blows your mind.
These people know the system inside and out, they know how it works, and I personally know people making more money than I do, and I and I'm just sitting here wondering, aside from the moral component, why should I keep working?
Well, I'll tell you.
I'll tell you, and it has nothing to do with money.
That's a decision you gotta make.
If everybody needs money, there's no it's always the money, and it's I know it's top your list.
It's the basis on which you're uh making comparisons here.
You're the people gaming the system have more than you do.
Working.
You're talking about the moral component.
Let's talk about something else, though.
Self-respect.
And I don't mean the self-respect that or the lack of it from being on the receiving end of government programs.
But I've always believed that work is uh particularly for um a man, but it's even becoming this way for a lot of women too.
It's who you are.
It is where your sense of self-worth resides.
It is how you define yourself.
You you sound like the kind of guy to me that even if you join the people who are not working and somehow getting hold of more money than you, I don't think that would make you happy.
I think you'd have a a uh a residue of if not guilt, you would you you wouldn't like yourself because you're not accomplishing anything.
You're not achieving anything.
Absolutely.
I agree with you a hundred percent.
Um and and that's why I this idea just keeps bouncing around in my mind for so long already, because I just can't bring myself to do it.
Um on a side note, my wife and I did go to the WIC program the other day.
Yeah.
Just out of curiosity, because I said I've got to see how this stuff works.
And it was amazing.
We walked out of there with literally hundreds of dollars.
They didn't even tell they told us we need to find out if you qualify.
But we left with hundreds of dollars of uh checks to buy formula for the babies and everything.
We haven't used them.
But and I thought, you know, this is absolutely astonishing to me.
It just Wait a second.
You mean you were able to walk in and walk out in the same visit with benefits?
Yes, sir.
We were there uh two and a half hours, I believe, with benefits, and they told us we'll let you know later if you qualify.
But until you qualify, they gave you some money anyway.
Yes, exactly.
All right.
Well But but I agree with you a hundred percent.
I it doesn't sit well with me, Rush.
And that's why but I still look at that as a moral component.
But I'm looking at it more like a financial thing.
I'm thinking, uh here I am, I'm killing myself.
I'm sitting in front of this computer, you know, twelve, fourteen hours a day to feed my family, and and I know these people that hey, do they just spend time with their kids, they do whatever they feel like doing all day long.
Would you uh would you advise your children to do this?
No, absolutely not.
My son has called your show before.
Um and and just to tell you, I am an official member of the vast right-wing conspiracy.
Uh-huh.
And probably so.
My son almost shot me for telling him I was going to go to that WIC program thing.
Well, he knows that the thing that we're talking about, you you're you're talking about this as a moral component.
I understand what you mean.
But the the word I think you're looking for here is dignity, and you know, because you know you're capable.
You have, I'm sure you have confidence in your ability.
You're just in a tight economy like everybody is.
You're if you went and did this and it became your sole source of support, you would lose all sense of self-dignity, and you know it, and that's why you're calling and asking me about it.
Oh, absolutely.
I agree with you.
But but again, like I told you, it to me what you're saying still has a lot to do with with my morality as as a man, as an individual, and and I agree with you.
I I don't think I could sleep at night.
Getting a lot of people.
You're not alone.
Let me tell you that more and more people are asking this question as because they see what you see.
Uh there are stories that that I've seen uh in the last couple of weeks, people whose unemployment benefits run out, they head over to the Social Security Office and end up on social security disability uh SSI.
When they don't even qualify for it, but they're they're they're put on the rolls because it's in the interests of government to have dependents.
Uh it's in the interest of bureaucracies to uh to have dependents.
I think if you did this uh even for the money uh you'd you you the longer you're out of work, the harder it is to go back to work.
The longer you're out of work and the longer you're not trying to find work, the harder it's gonna be to get a good job when you uh uh find the economy improving where you live and job opportunity uh improving as well.
It's a t you know, it's a it's a it's a tough thing.
I uh I I sympathize with you because the the reality of the dollars on the one hand is is obvious, but then on the other side is your your moral component, which I don't think you can ignore.
Um the future of the country is not on the benefits side.
And when you do that, there's an immediate sense of relief financially, but you've lost total control over your life at that point.
You are you are total dependent on people you don't know, people who don't care about you, coming through for you every week or month or however often the benefits are to provide it's a it's it's a risky place to be when you totally abandon all sense of self-reliance.
I don't think you could do it.
I I don't I don't just talking to you, I don't think you could uh psychologically do it for very long.
Otherwise, you'd be doing it already, you wouldn't have called me.
That's tough.
I know.
I'd I my my um advice is to can continue to hang in.
Because it will get better at some point.
We are still talking about the United States of America, and there are enough people like you that are that are gonna cause a turnaround here.
But you have to be involved in that effort if it's gonna happen.
It's gonna take people like you, actively trying to better your life within the system for it to improve.
Beyond that, that's all I can say.
Uh uh the decision is always gonna end up being yours.
I appreciate the call.
I really do a little long here.
Gotta take a brief time out, folks, but we will be back.
National Journal story earlier this week.
Ebbing enthusiasm among the president's base points to the possibility of a decisive defeat.
More details on this next week when we get back.
But the latest Rasmussen, it's Romney 50, Obama 43, my friends.
Have a wonderful weekend.
And as I say, see you next week.
Can't wait.
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