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July 13, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 13, 2011, Wednesday, Hour #2
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New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees says that they are very close to a settlement.
And I keep tabs on this NFL stuff.
I don't talk about it a whole lot recently because there hasn't really been a whole lot to say, but it does now.
As I've been trolling through various places that I and people, they're pretty close.
The supposed lone remaining obstacle is the rookie wage scale.
Which is a toughie, is the players do have a point in one of their points of opposition to it.
Greetings and welcome back.
Rush Limbaugh, the EIB network, the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
So the dates that are being bandied about within the circles of people that know is July 17th to 21 for a solution or ratification.
The owners meet in Atlanta on July 21st.
Let's hope they don't have to go to public school system.
My God, folks, have you have you been keeping up with this?
Well, we've been telling you about what a stupid question to ask an audience.
Have you been keeping up with my job to keep you up to speed on it?
We have been.
It is amazing.
This Atlanta school cheating scandal.
And now a similar thing has been discovered in a Pennsylvania school district.
And all of the cheating is oriented around teacher test standards and requirements at trying to pass them and exceed them.
Basically, just passing the students whether they're learning anything or not.
So the teachers are off the hook.
I mean, it is it is one of the most irresponsible, deep-rooted scandals in all of public education.
I remember I've I've told you the story of there's a there's a teacher here.
I hope this teacher hears about this.
I hope this teacher knows who she is when I tell this story.
I don't know her name.
But in a school in the magical portion here of South Florida, there is this far left wing nut that teaches history to junior high and half scroll students.
Except that she doesn't.
She teaches modern current events as though she is a news anchor.
And she inculcates the young skulls full of mush in her classroom with every aspect of liberalism.
She teaches them about global warming.
She teaches them that Republicans want to starve kids and the elderly and all it's it's it's a never-ending anti-conservative, anti-Republican diatribe disguised as a history test or history class.
She gives the students tests but tells them the answers.
She gives them the answers.
The students, when I first heard about this, I said, Well, how come the students love it?
They're getting A's and B's and after doing it.
And they get an A for just sitting there.
Shouldn't even talk to them.
I mean, uh require them to participate much.
It just preaches to them.
It's a constant, constant leftist diatribe and fakes the tests.
Which is essentially what's going on in Atlanta.
Minus the left wing.
I don't know if if part of the Atlanta scandal is just turning the classroom over to liberal indoctrination.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's what's going on.
But it's the same scandal.
Except the kids are being given the tests, except doesn't matter what they put down, they're being passed.
And now the students, when they hear about it, are a lot of them are saying, well, I don't like this at all.
I've I mean I thought I was learning something in here, and I may not know anything, and I've been passed.
They're playing with my future here.
Yep.
For the people who do it all for the children.
From the people who do it all for the kids.
Just totally messing with their futures, not concerned at all whether they're learning Anything, simply faking the test results so that the teachers are able to show that they're passing their requirements, that their teachers or the students are learning and therefore teachers are doing their jobs.
A newly named Texas Scrual District superintendent will take a paid leave of absence as trustees, reexamine her previous post in Atlanta, where officials are investigating allegations of widespread cheating on standardized tests.
Trustees of the DeSoto Independent School District held a lengthy closed door meeting Monday night before Superintendent Kathy Augustine read a statement announcing she was taking the leave of absence through a mutual agreement with the board.
They got 9,000 students in this district in Dallas.
Georgia investigators say that 178 educators had cheated on standardized tests used to meet federal benchmarks.
Augustine denied having any knowledge of the test cheating while she was deputy superintendent.
But she said Monday that the district could have put tighter controls on the test security.
The Dallas Bunch hired her in April.
Her job pays 188,000 a year.
Next story in the stack.
Atlanta Public Schools Chief Human Resources Officer Millicent Few has resigned her post after state investigators implicated her in a district-wide cheating scandal.
Few illegally ordered the destruction or alteration of documents, according to the state report released last week.
Reports said that Millicent few, and it's spelled just like the word few, F.E. W. Millicent few also made false statements to investigators.
Few who could not be reached for comment Tuesday denied the assertions.
Now lying to investigators and destroying or altering public records are felonies under George.
Does anybody think these teachers anything's going to really happen to him?
You think so, Snerdley?
Snerdly.
Oh man, what a Pollyanna you are.
Snerdley sits there, tells me he thinks that some of the teachers and principals are going to go to jail.
Ha!
Ha!
Really?
Yeah, right.
The Ural Constipation demanding it.
Right, right, right, right, right.
Yes, sir, Rebob.
This is like Jimmy Hoffa Jr. assuring that his dad's gonna go to jail.
Okay.
Uh this let's see.
What is this?
Uh this is the uh in fact, I got a story here from the Urinal Constipation.
You know, what it is is there's a letter written by a screw board member in Atlanta who retired last night or night before.
In the letter, he outlines some interesting things, but listen to this quote.
This is the guy.
Departing words.
This is a school board member Katim S L. Katim S. period E L, as in Antoine Randall L. The school board member Katim SL wrote that resigning his seat on the Atlanta School Board to take a job in New Jersey.
He's a school board member involved in the scandal.
The cheating scandal.
What I wasn't able to do for children in Atlanta, I hope to accomplish in the city of Newark, where I have been asked to help lead Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg contribution of a hundred million dollars to turn around that city schools.
Ha!
Oh, oh.
You just all you can do is laugh.
This is you don't think Fakim L was as he was not implicated.
Oh, he was not implicated in the scandal.
Although he didn't know anything about it.
He wasn't implicated and didn't know anything about it.
Okay, okay.
We'll take him.
He didn't know anything about it, and he wasn't involved.
But he knows what happened to school kids in Atlanta, right?
So now he says I'm gonna go to New Jersey and do for the kids of Atlanta what I did.
Okay, what I wasn't able to do for what I wasn't able to do.
As long as we're on ridiculous stories, Wall Street Journal.
The ChICOMs reported surprisingly robust economic growth for the second quarter a day after the Premier Wen Jabal signaled the continuation of anti-inflation policies that have fueled concerns about the potential for a slowdown.
GDP in the world's number two economy, the ChICOMs expanded to 9.5% in the April-June quarter from the same period a year ago.
Slightly lower than the 9.7% in the first quarter.
Now, folks, stay with me on this.
The ChICOMS, a communist country.
The ChICOM economy grew in the most recent quarter at a rate of 9.5%.
Our dear leaders in the Obama regime assure us that 5% growth for us is out of the question.
That we are looking at 1.8 to 2.2% growth in our economy for the next few foreseeable years.
One of the ChICOM's biggest worries is too much bank lending.
While, of course, ours is not enough.
The Chai Combs are also complaining about inflation.
We also have inflation, even though our economy is growing at under 2%.
But still, did you ever think that you would live to see today?
When the capitalist pigs at the Wall Street Journal would be envious of a communist country.
Did you ever live to see the day where you would be envious of a communist country's economic growth?
The ChICOMs are growing at 9.5%.
If there's a caveat here, if that's true.
I mean, they're Chycoms, they're liars.
Just like our liberals, they lie.
But if it's true.
A communist country is growing in about 9.5%.
We can't even hit 2%.
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Great to have you here.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Atlanta school thing, to keep in mind here.
These teachers were given pay increases based on these results.
And this went on for 10 years.
The Atlanta Scrual Cheating Scandal, whichem S.L. didn't know anything about.
Went on for 10 years.
And they got pay increases based on falsifying the test results of their pupils of their students.
And now there is a quote-unquote investigation of the rapid rise of grades in Washington, D.C. in the public screws there.
So we come up with a plan.
We want to hold teachers accountable.
We want to have them and their students meet performance standards, i.e.
to indicate that they are learning and the teachers are teaching.
So what do the liberal teachers do?
They cheat.
Whatever.
Look at the amount of time that probably went into planning and executing this.
I always, if I could have cheated, I would have.
If I if I could have looked at somebody else's scores or looked at somebody else's, I I hated it.
I I can't tell you how much I hated it.
I remember there was one guy who had elaborate cheating techniques.
Got caught.
Teacher said, Yeah, if you would just spend half this time studying.
You wouldn't have had to do any of this.
He said, Yeah, but this was more fun.
And I understand that.
You know, concocting a scheme.
That's what these Atlanta people did.
And uh Pennsylvania saw a story where there's looking into it there, Washington, D.C. I'll bet this is not contained in Atlanta.
I'll I'll bet this is something.
Liberals are liberals wherever they happen to be.
All right, uh Eric and Tucson, we go back to the phones.
Great to have you with us on the EIB network.
Hello, sir.
Hey, Rash.
It's uh good to talk to you.
Uh listened to you a long time and really appreciated your insight.
Thank you, sir, very much.
Congratulations.
Um, I am fired up today, uh really angry about this uh Mitch McConnell thing.
I'd like to regress to that if we could for a minute.
Yeah, fine.
You go feel free.
Well, you know, um I've been a lifelong Republican and a conservative, grew up in uh, you know, greatest generation uh house.
Uh I'm your age.
Uh my first election I voted in was for Richard Nixon.
And uh been voting that way since, but yesterday I uh I made uh Zell Miller my uh my idol and my uh my role model.
Okay, Dell Miller, former Congressman.
Yeah, I know I know him very well.
Yeah, he wrote his book, you know, Party No More.
Well uh yesterday I left the Republican Party over this Mitch McConnell thing.
Oh no, what did you do?
I just I said I can't do it anymore.
These guys have just continued to abandon the values, you know, that that we have elected them for, and uh I can't take it anymore.
I just I said, you know what?
I'm not a Republican anymore.
Well, but conservative.
Did you go deregister?
Uh I think I will.
I'm gonna change my registration.
To what?
Uh I'm not sure yet.
You know, I know you don't like independence, but um, I'm gonna have to vote independently because um I can't I can't vote for these party guys anymore.
Well I mean this is a lot of people as angry as I am.
I know, I know I know I know Eric, and these are these guys this is not even a cave yesterday.
Imagine what would have happened.
You're you're I think uh an indicator.
A leading indicator of what's waiting to happen out there.
He is, folks.
Eric is a leading indicator.
And what happened the McConnell plan didn't even cave any because it doesn't have a chance of going anywhere.
But it did portray a mindset.
This is what he doesn't like.
And it portrayed why are we giving up?
Why why are we throwing in the towel?
That's what it felt like.
Am I right, Eric?
Is that what it felt like to you?
Yeah, it is.
You know, and um they could win me back, but they would have to be some real bulldogs and fighters and stand on the principles and quit caving.
That that's how that's the only way they could ever.
Well, I have my hopes I think they will.
Stephen, in Birmingham, Alabama, we go back uh stay with the phones, and hello, sir.
Great to have you with us.
Hi.
Oh, hi.
I can't believe I'm talking to the Rush Lumbach.
You are.
I saw your show back in uh I was in the audience in your show back in uh round ninety-four or so.
So I just want to say thank God you are on our side.
I want to talk about um this quote from what's it, Kadim F. L. Was that the guy's name?
Uh let's find it here.
Uh well, something like that.
It is it here it is.
It's uh Cottem K-H A T I M. Khatim S. L. Khatim S L. Okay.
Well, this guy trashes the Atlanta school system.
Then he goes up to Newark because they pull guys like pull guys in there like that because they send him up there to trust that place too, because New York is the way it is, because they hire guys like us in the first place.
Then once he goes up there, he says that he has been getting all this money from Mark Zuckerberg and his personal fortune, you know, that's a wet behind the ears, new very internet billionaire who doesn't know his ass from third base.
And once um he's been and Zuckerberg himself has been goaded into doing this by um, you know, Bill Gates, who wants everybody, all these, you know, really rich people to give away all their money.
I know, they're all giving it to Gates.
Gates has got all these guys giving him their money.
And Gates is the guy who's pumping a huge amount of his personal wealth into finding stuff like climate change.
No, Gates is by mosquito nets.
Oh, okay.
Gates is into mosquito nets and uh other things.
Well, I had heard in all these reports that he was pumping huge amounts of money into the climate change stock when he could use that money for something that's actually constructive, but he just wants to give their.
I don't know why it is.
Well, but these guys look at they're like they're buying goodwill.
They're buying good media coverage, and that's what Zuckerberg's does.
A hundred million dollars.
You know, how much money do you think Newark has squandered on education?
I know, I know.
It's just uh it's just insane.
So they con Zuckerberg, I don't know how Conn, I mean, maybe he might come up with it on his own.
Uh but but usually people get hold of these guys who come into a lot of money and say, okay, the first thing you need to set up a foundation, a charitable foundation, the Mark Zuckerberg Foundation, or whatever it is, and uh they give them the financial wherewithals and how it works, and uh, you know, create a good image for yourself, and you fund this and you fund that.
And the magic word's education.
The magic word is education.
Throw any amount of money at anything that is ostensibly related to education and your hero.
You don't care.
After that, what happens?
You've already bought your goodwill.
You've bought your compassion.
You have bought your liberal approval.
After that, it doesn't matter what happens.
You know, you send the and by the way, I don't think Zuckerberg's hundred mil goes in in a lump, but I think I read that.
But regardless.
Well, if they start caring about results now, it's going to be the first time.
That's not the point of this.
The point of this is not results.
The point the point of this is goodwill.
I care, I'm a great guy, I care about education.
I want to go back to our caller who said he'd bailed on the Republicans because of the McConnell plan.
Can't handle it anymore, doesn't want any caves and this kind of thing.
Um want to illustrate here that uh most everybody in the Republican Party is distancing themselves from the McConnell plan.
The um the Republicans are not embracing it.
This is um, I I'm not saying this to comfort anybody or or or to uh soft sell anything.
I'm just telling you.
It's it was not embraced by the party.
Democrats did, but but the Republicans didn't.
And here's Jim Dement.
This is an example of this on the early show today.
The co-host Chris Raggy interviewing DeMement said a new proposal was announced last night, yesterday, to allow the president to raise the debt ceiling three times through 2012.
Scott Pelley said there seemed to be a sense of relief in Washington this morning at McConnell's proposal.
Do you have that same sense of relief?
And what are your thoughts on Senator McConnell's deals?
Republicans weren't elected last November to make it easier to spend and borrow and add to our debt.
The president, unlike what he just said, has not sent us a proposal.
This idea that Republicans will not vote to increase the debt limit is wrong.
I've been working with House members and Senators.
We're going to introduce a plan that would give the president an increase in the debt limit, but it's contingent on cutting spending and capping spending over several years and giving the states the opportunity to decide if we're going to balance our budget sometime in the next decade.
All right, so it seems a fate of completed debt ceiling is going to get raised.
But here's De Mint not signing on to McConnell deal.
Now the debt ceiling is going to get raised.
I haven't spoken to Senator DeMinn about it, but I can tell you.
He is in favor of raising a debt ceiling, not because he wants to spend more.
He wants to spend less.
This is all about the full faith and credit of the U.S., uh the the reputation.
It's embarrassing for the world's superpower to go into fault.
These guys, that's that's what they want to avoid by not raising the debt limit.
And I it's it's in Demitt's case and most Republicans' case in the House, it's not about the ability to spend more, because the deal that they'll sign and agree to for raising a debt limit requires massive spending cuts and no tax increases.
And that's the holdup.
Because Obama, all he wants is to raise taxes and spend more money.
And they're no closer to a deal than they've ever been.
So uh Raggy, the CBS uh info guy, said, Well, the president says the Democrats are willing to touch entitlements, but Republicans are steadfast in their belief that you can't raise taxes.
Are there any revenue measures in this new plan?
History tells us the only way to raise revenues is to get the economy going again, and one of the worst things you can do to the economy is increase taxes on small businesses, which is the group that's in this category that the president's talking about.
The top wage earners in America are already paying the highest portion of national taxes of any country in the world.
10% pay over 70%.
And what the president's proposing will bring in such a small amount of revenue, it doesn't even deal with the problem.
So his proposal is totally political.
And again, he has not made any proposal in writing to deal with entitlements and to deal with any specific cuts.
So the president talks a lot, but we can't vote on a speech.
We can't vote on a speech.
We need to see a proposal.
You don't just get to sit there and play smartest guy in the room when you don't anything but and act like you had nothing to do with making this mess.
Let's see your proposal.
And Boehner echoed that, uh echoed that again yesterday to Austin, Texas next.
This is Paul.
Great to have you on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
Rush, it's a great honor.
Uh, from uh Austin, uh liberal uh, uh I guess surrounded by conservative uh counties.
Um feel like the lone uh lone conservative artists in the whole of Texas.
Um I heard uh um Conley uh throw out this proposal to give Obama Caesar-like power over the federal debt.
Uh I mean that that just floored me.
I could not believe it.
Um You mean uh Mitch McConnell?
Yes, yes, I'm sorry, Mitch McConnell.
Uh when I heard that, you know, I I wrote my senator and and asked him, are you guys drinking something up there?
Uh this this is unbelievable.
This is Well, I know.
What here's here's the thing.
Uh I I explained this in great detail the first hour.
What he was uh but I just got an I just got an email from some guy named Wykoff, who's just livid at my mispronunciation of words.
Well, he said I was funny for a while, but he's getting tired of it and wants me to stop it.
Like uh like not like saying schedule instead of schedule, or saying splain instead of explain.
He doesn't know why I'm doing it.
It just bugs him.
I get emails like that.
Now, Paul, what what what's behind this, as I explained in the first hour of the program, is that McConnell.
They're nervous.
They're Republic.
I can't tell you how nervous they are.
They are so nervous.
They think it's 1995 all over again when they went when Newton the boys got snookered by Clinton.
They do.
No matter what we say out here, no matter what the Gallup poll says, they they just they think they think they're about to get steamrolled again.
They're scared to death.
And so they can't, I guarantee you, McConnell is livid that Obama's getting away with this.
So the I think the point of his plan here was, okay, you want to you want to raise spending, it's all yours, buddy.
Here it is.
Here's a plan.
You want to raise a debt limit, it's all yours.
You can go do it three times between now and 2012.
You want to raise spending, you go right ahead.
We it's gonna take two-thirds of us to say no, you can't.
It was an attempt to put the onus all on Obama.
The spending and hold him accountable and shift the blame to him because they are sick and tired.
And you gotta be able to understand this.
If you're an elected Republican in Washington, you have to deal with this media for the last 30 years this way.
The rampant, I mean, if it just boil it down to the simple unfairness of it all.
And I'm not crybabying about it.
I'm trying to tell you 30 years of this, you'd be frustrated too.
So they throw the card, senior citizens and the military aren't going to get the checks.
All right, the hell with it.
You want to raise spin a goheads all on you.
Just I think it's indication of frustration.
Can you imagine?
Let me tell you something.
Living in the residence quarters of the White House is a woman known as Obama's mother-in-law.
Michelle Obama's mother.
She's 74.
That means that she is on Social Security.
Do you really believe that Obama's going to go home after work and tell his own mother-in-law that she's not getting her social security check?
Well, before you say no, he would.
If he could blame it on the Republican, if he threw his own mother under the bus.
If he threw grandma under the bus, typical white woman.
I'll tell you if his if his mother-in-law eating dog food a couple days would move the case forward, hell, no problem.
Good friend of mine just sent me a note.
And this really is a great codification of what's going on here, a summary.
Saving the country is not a game of setting up who gets blamed for destroying it.
And that's what the McConnell plan is in attempt to do is to blame Obama.
The McConnell plan is an effort to see that finally, somehow, some way, Obama or any Democrat president, is going to get the blame for what they've done.
But saving the country is not a game of setting up who gets blamed for destroying it.
Saving the country is what we're all about here.
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Janet in Swillow, Illinois.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hello, last man standing.
Thank you.
This is your fellow neighbor in realityville.
And you need to do something.
You need you've been giving tough love to the Republicans in Congress.
But you need to give it to the Republican base.
They're going wobbly, Rush.
They're calling you.
And um they're playing right into Obama's hands.
Wait a second now.
Yes.
What do you mean?
What I mean is Mitch McConnell has played the crosshammer option.
This is what Crophammer suggested a couple days ago.
And he's done it.
Well, no, wait, that's not the w uh w uh I thought you said that the Republican base is going wobbly.
They are.
They are.
And listen to me, we're in the mess.
Wait, are you sig no this is I am suggesting that we're in this mess because they live didn't listen to you in two thousand six when the Tom Poley scandal came out.
You told them not to stay home.
I know because I listened to you.
And that was a trick by the Democrats because they know how to get the base.
And what Obama's doing right now is to get the base.
The base is the strongest thing in this country right now.
It's the only thing plays to save this country.
Tell me how they're going wobbly.
There's well, what was that caller that you just had that said the re he's on the Republicans have lost him now with McConnell's deal.
McConnell just played an option.
A test balloon.
It was never gonna go anywhere.
I really don't believe Obama was going to sign it.
I do believe he's not going to close and send out social security checks.
No, but the reason see, you're you're you're you you're ending up at the truth here.
So why present the house wasn't gonna sign it?
Obama's not gonna sign it.
So why present it?
It's presented and it looks like uh um I I a white flag.
It looks almost like surrender.
Yeah, I know.
I know that.
I agree with that.
Well, that's all the guy was reacting to.
But listen, we've got to hold the line here.
We've got to prove we're big game players.
Come on.
We don't want to be defanged.
Obama is trying to crush us.
That's what's going on.
We're the target, not Granny.
He's already got her lined up for death panels.
And now he's pulling her check.
Well, hey, he's gonna pull a plug in two years.
Let's wake up, America.
Let's hang tough.
Let's get behind this.
Wait a second.
I would all do it.
I just regulated Gallup poll data, and that poll is replicated in other polls.
The American people are up speed.
The base isn't going wobbly.
You're reacting to this guy.
This guy told me he'll be back.
He wants to be won back.
No, I'm sick and tired of these people that need to be wooed.
We don't need to woo people.
You don't woo people when you're going off a cliff.
He's not he's not gonna vote Democrat.
No, he's gonna stay home, Rosh.
Or he'll go third party.
Oh yeah, that's really gonna work.
I'm being purposely sarcastic.
I'm trying to gin up the base, okay?
I understand.
I understand what you're doing.
I just don't think the base has gone wobbly.
I uh there may be, you know, an example here and there.
You know, Snerdley goes out and finds one and you're having a fit.
No, yes, okay.
I don't think the base is gone wobbly.
We gotta hold the line here.
Bayner, Eric Cantor, they've got to go for it.
They we've gotta take it to Obama's throat without Obama crushing the Tea Party.
I know.
That's the trick.
That's the fine line we've got to thread.
That's the needle.
And I only there's only one guy in America that knows how to do it, and I'm talking to him.
I don't think Obama can crush the Tea Party.
I don't think Obama has the slightest bit of credibility with the Tea Party to be able to destroy them.
Um in the way that you mean.
Anyway, it's a good call.
I'm I'm glad you took the time.
I've got to run because I'm out of it.
Back after this.
Back after this.
It would help if I turn on the microphone as I just did fine.
We do not need.
I'm ready.
You do not have to drink eight glasses of water a day.
In fact, it might be harmful.
Oh, yeah, it's another this kind of stuff never stops, does it?
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