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July 13, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 13, 2011, Wednesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Well, we knew it was going to get to this point.
The Republicans are nervous.
Some of them are very nervous.
And a few of them are outright paranoid.
Hi, folks.
Great to have you back.
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About this time yesterday, we uh quoted Senator Mitch McConnell as saying nothing substantive will ever get done in this country until Barack Obama is removed from the Oval Office.
As long as he is, I think what did he actually do?
As long as Obama's in the Oval Office, nothing is going to get done.
All right, fine.
And I said, I don't know how you walk that back, but he did.
I don't I I I don't know how you I sat here and I mean we were we were ladling praise out.
I mean, that's we're just not used to hearing Republicans talk that way.
Now, Trump, you know, you say what you want about Trump.
Trump showed the way here.
Trump showed how you rattle Obama.
Trump showed how you get under the thin skin of Obama and how you get him off his game.
Trump showed that.
You just go right after him.
And you just you just get rid of all your fear.
You get rid of all of whoever you're going to offend or what the press is going to say about you, and you just tell people the truth.
And Obama can't deal with that.
He's never had to deal with that his whole life.
He's let a very sheltered, protected, you know, whatever you gotta see.
There's always somebody around to make it an A, maybe an A-But I don't know.
You go out and you make that really powerful statement, which has the added benefit of being true.
We're not going to get anything seriously accomplished as long as he's in the Oval Office, as long as he's president.
It's got to be defeated.
And then a few hours later, after not telling anybody, you submit a plan without running it by your colleagues.
And I'm everybody asking me what I what I think of this.
The number one problem I have with it has nothing to do with his substance.
And there's some problems I have, but but it just shows weakness.
My gosh, we're in the we've got Obama and the Democrats predictably following every page in their playbook, knowing exactly what they're going to do before they do it, scaring senior citizens, and the minute they come out with that, there comes this proposal that basically shows panic.
It just, to me, it reeked of, oh no, uh, a lack of resolve.
And so now I think Obama needed to think that these Republicans were serious about taking this to the end, and now he knows that they're not.
Now he knows the Republicans are not united on that concept.
Now he knows that there are Republicans who'd like to do anything to avoid being blamed for this.
Even give him the um, you know, look, the plan's got its positive aspects.
If you want, we'll go through it.
It's got its positive aspects, but the the I just don't see the need for it right now.
I just I was shocked when this thing hit.
It's it's it's got a lot of procedural rigor in it.
Uh but it it well, it seems to be calculated in a way, and this is my main problem with it, to escape responsibility.
It seems like the objective here was to come up with a way that would allow the Republicans to blame Obama for once.
Which is a waste of time.
As long as the Democrats control the Media like they do, the Republicans are never going to be, or Obama is never going to be portrayed as the problem in a back and forth with the Republicans.
I don't care what happens.
The people that the Republicans care about, apparently the media and the ruling class in Washington is never ever going to end up blaming Obama for this, particularly the media.
As long as they control the press like they do, they're always going to portray the Republicans as obstructionists and extremists, no matter what they do or don't do.
You know, this is pedal of the metal time.
I it's time we swallow the pill and take our medicine.
Why come up with a plan that allows Obama to raise the debt ceiling three more times before he leaves office?
And I know it's supposed to put the onus on him and so forth.
Yeah, Obama raised a debt ceiling.
Why cede that kind of power?
Just to try to illustrate everybody that he's the big spender and so forth.
Look at the public polling data.
Everybody knows that Obama's the problem on this.
He doesn't have majority support on anything he's doing right now.
And everybody knows that the media is going to try to blame the Republicans.
Everybody knows this was coming down the pike.
Everybody knew that the same old SAMO was going to happen.
Meaning Republicans hate senior citizens and want him to die.
And uh the military.
Republicans really don't care.
All they care about their corporate jet guys.
Come on.
It's you know it's gonna happen, and and to react this way to it out of nowhere.
I don't know, depressed me.
And I don't want to sit around and be depressed about this stuff.
But it it did.
I I here's what it is.
I mean, if you want me to summarize the McConnell plan, it's a kind of a uh a backdoor way of giving Obama just about everything he wants without the Republicans having to take the blame for it.
Obama in this deal gets two and a half trillion dollars more borrowed money in exchange for future spending cuts that'll be chosen by the Democrat Senate.
When I saw that Harry Reid consulted on this and liked it, when I saw that Chuck Schumer liked it, when I saw that Durbin liked it, when I saw that Pelosi liked it, I was whoa.
Now, the plan does allow the Republicans to go on record as voting for their own cuts.
It does do that.
And it allows the Republicans to escape blame if those cuts never happen.
It does throw all the onus on Obama.
But who's gonna care?
Who's gonna remember in in the future anyway?
The same circumstances are gonna happen the next, the first of these three debt limit increases that you think the media, the Democrats are gonna, oh, you know what?
McConnell snookered us back there in 2011.
I guess we're really pounded now.
Everything we do is gonna be blamed on us.
It's it the the the blame game and trying to escape it is not the point.
Stopping spending is the point.
Stopping Obama from doing any more damage is the point.
Not constructing things so the party doesn't get blame.
I understand these are party people and they gotta go get elected, and I'm I just think I've got a pretty good recipe for pulling that off.
I just I do not believe that showing signs of weakness like this advances the ball.
No, I could be dead wrong about this.
And I think, you know, I've I know Senator McConnell is an honorable person, and I know he's doing what he thinks best.
And I think he is really trying to see to it.
He's doing he's he's he's he's dead serious about what he said yesterday, Obama being an obstacle to anything positive getting accomplished in this country.
He's dead serious when he says that the objective has to be to defeat Obama to ballot box 2012.
And I think he's dead serious on trying to protect the Republican Party here and make sure that they don't get the blame for this even as Obama gets what he wants.
But I don't know why present this yesterday.
I I don't understand how it's not possible to look at this circumstance and see that Obama forget forget I guess it's easy for me to say forget the media.
These guys can't, I guess.
And I guess maybe they have their own polling that they listen to.
I don't care about any of that.
But it just very hard for me to say all of this, because I really admire Senator McConnell.
There are good things in the plan.
It doesn't contain any any uh mention of new taxes.
But it doesn't stop Obama the Democrats from trying to raise them either.
And in McConnell's plan would would mean that Obama finally has to put some spending cuts down on paper.
I mean, Obama's getting away.
They they leaked.
Yes, White House leaked Eric Cantor's Medicare cut that he's proposing that they're talking about in these meetings.
And of course, Obama can safely do that because there's nothing of his to leak.
Because he hasn't put anything down on paper.
Obama's not putting it in.
Obama's not mentioning specific.
White House press secretary running around saying Obama doesn't even have a vote.
We know who we're up against.
We know exactly who we're up against.
We know exactly the kind of people they are, and we know that the last thing they have on their side is the truth.
We know that we have the truth on our side.
As I say, the the the positive, one of the positive things, Obama would have to put some spending cuts down on paper, no matter how phony they are.
He would have to get specific.
The McConnell thing.
It's not looking, it would another thing.
It wouldn't, it's it has no chance of passing the House.
So I don't understand why I bring it up.
Uh yes, I do.
I do understand why I bring it up.
This is the heat was getting such that uh it's time to save the Republicans here in the blame game.
And that's I think one of the objectives here.
Anyway, I got to take a break here, folks, as we've just begun on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Sit tight, we'll be back and continue right after this.
Well, but it didn't take the Social Security thing off the front page.
The Senator McConnell announcing his proposal did not take the uh social security issue that Obama raised off the table yesterday during this program, CBS released released uh excerpts of an interview with Obama Scott Pelle.
Can you go and team the president's social security checks will go out of the other fly?
Oh no, Scott, not just Social Security veterans.
I don't know.
Boom.
President can't guarantee Social Security check.
It's it's that's not been taken off the table.
That's still out there.
Now here's Dingy Harry this morning on the Senate floor talking about the McConnell deal.
I believe that the Republican Legion proposal combined with ideas he and I have been discussing the force of voter deaths reduction proposals could go a long way toward resolving the impasse.
We now find ourselves.
We both agreed a long time ago.
But the problem is not the presence.
It's our problem.
Well, uh I I I folks, I don't know how many of you would still be here if I came in here to endorse this thing today.
With with the with dingy Harry, who we I personally know what a reprobate the guy can be.
Phony soldier business.
Uh sitting here and saying that he and Senator McConnell agreed a long time ago this is not Obama's problem.
Yeah, folks here, listen to Dingy Harry.
This is what it's what a great deal it is.
I it it has not taken a social security thing off the front page.
It didn't, it didn't divert anything.
All it did was Fire up the left.
You know, when the media starts, oh, this is a deal everybody can live with.
You know that it's a win for Obama.
Now, Senator McConnell's plan would allow Obama to increase the debt ceiling and overall debt, two and a half trillion dollars between now and 2012.
or the campaign.
It's it doesn't propose any structural entitlement reform or real spending reform to stop this train that we're on.
This takes us down the road to further bankruptcy and tries to blame Obama for it.
And I'm all for that.
But we want who do we actually want blaming Obama?
We want voters blaming Obama.
We don't care because we know who the media is going to support and who they're not going to support.
So that basically is my summation of this.
I mean, I you might disagree, you might like it.
And you're, I mean, you have at me if you wish.
I just don't know how the Republicans are going to explain to their constituents, especially Tea Party supporters, why they are reneging on their 2010 campaign promise to address this debt crisis in a positive and courageous way.
Because this just doesn't.
Nobody would love for Obama to take the blame on this more than me.
Nobody, but I think it's happening.
Where it matters most to me, you know what this boils down to?
You know what I and I I should not forget this.
I've learned this a long time ago.
And I I it's one of these things that I should not have to remind myself of.
But we do live in two different worlds.
I my my uh my concern is you.
I I'm in the arena of ideas, the court of public opinion.
I don't think Washington cares about public opinion, at least any more than what the recent polling data says about it.
But their day-to-day existence is not with us in mind.
It's just like the people at Write for Time don't really care about us.
They care about what the people in Newsweek think of what they write.
Or politico or verse vice.
I mean, it's an incestuous culture there inside the uh inside the beltway.
I and that's what I keep forgetting.
I I need to remind myself that we're actually talking about two different audiences.
And I assume, mistakenly so, that elected Republicans look at all this through the same prism as I do, that I do, and that's you.
The court of public opinion.
This is to me, it only makes sense.
I mean, who votes for them?
The media doesn't vote for them, we do.
They still have this notion the media is going to influence how you vote.
So in the court of public opinion right now, Obama is not looking good.
But the Republicans don't have any clue.
They don't have any idea.
The court of public opinion somehow doesn't get to them.
Insulated as they are in Washington.
So whatever the prevailing attitudes or opinions are that they hear each and every day, polling data, television, news shows, whatever it is is what they think.
Prevailing opinion is.
Now, as a Gallup poll out today, U.S. debt ceiling increase remains unpopular with Americans.
Most more Americans want their member of Congress to vote against raising the debt ceiling than Ford.
It's 42 to 22, no increase in the debt ceiling.
42, 22.
Why do you need anything else?
If you're a poll watcher, why do you need anything?
Independence tilt heavily against raising the debt ceiling.
So why come out with an idea that lets Obama do it three times?
Well, I can answer that.
Because you might look at this poll and say, okay, public doesn't want the debt ceiling raised.
So let's come up with a plan that forces Obama to initiate it.
And the public doesn't want it.
And that way the public will I understand their frustration, Folks, I really do.
Obama, if if I were one of them, I would be as frustrated as I have ever been in my life.
Obama, a man child, he gets to sit up there and not present anything specific.
He doesn't take one hit in the media.
All he does is get to go all, he does all this spending.
He does all this ruination, and after he does that, he sits there and acts like he's the only adult in the room, and he's the guy that's going to be the referee, and he's the guy that's going to decide what happens from now forward.
And if I I can understand being literally fried over that.
And I would be looking for a way to ram it down his throat myself.
I'd be looking for a way to make him pay.
I can understand the frustration totally.
But this to me, the timing and everything, does not do that because even beyond the substance of the details, it just I don't know.
It portrays weaknesses.
Independents are again raising the debt ceiling 46 to 18.
Now, 36% of them have no opinion, and a follow-up question finds that Americans are more sympathetic to the Republicans' arguments than Obama's specifically.
When asked to say which is their greater concern, 51% say raising the debt ceiling without plans for major future spending cuts concerns them.
Do you realize a problem to get a 51% result on that question?
On a budget question, do you realize folks five years ago, ten years ago, you couldn't get 5% of the American people to even understand that question?
And those 5% would have 4% that wouldn't care.
That's that's how much progress has been made on educating and informing the public here.
We're on a roll and we can get it back.
Gotta go right for Obama.
Checking the email, as I always do during commercial breaks, a couple of snarky.
Which I understand, by the way.
A couple of snarky.
So what when you do, you send, and you're saying you have all the answers, and you do all this clean thing, and you just get to think nothing ever harms you.
You the teen.
Okay, what would I do?
In context, what happened?
What what where were where are we?
The Republicans are holding firm.
No tax increase, no tax increase, no tax increase, nothing.
White House calls Scott Pelley, new anchor CBS.
You want an interview with the president?
Pelley goes, takes his tongue off the floor, says, sure, anything you want.
They sit down in the White House.
Somehow Pelley asks the magic question.
Mr. President, can you guarantee that social security checks are gonna go out?
President.
Ken, that's not just Social Security checks, Scott.
Thanks for reading the transcript, right?
That's uh veterans' checks too out there, Scott.
I mean it's uh I I can't, I I I can't guarantee that this is gonna happen.
You personally can't guarantee that social security checks.
No.
Uh uh, we need a balanced approach.
Fine.
You are the Republicans, and you are in the House, and you run the place.
So what do you do?
You immediately put together a bill that pays veterans in the case of default, pays veterans, pays Social Security, uh, services the debt, uh whatever other priorities you want to put in the bill, and you pass it, and you send it over to Denji Harry.
And he passes it or not.
And then you send it up to Obama, and he vetoes it or signs it or not.
But you put the pressure on them.
Obama says I can't guarantee Social Security checks to go out.
Well, we the Republicans will.
Here's our bill.
Instead, we don't want to.
Yeah, well, I it's instead we reacted, okay.
Well, well, gosh, no, oh my God.
That's it.
Social Security veterans, we're dead.
We better come and send up some proposal here that tries to get Obama at least blamed for this.
Rather than pass a bill.
You run the you run the House of Representatives.
You've got the American people behind you in this in this Gallup poll.
Where do we leave off in this Gallup poll?
Right here.
Follow-up question finds Americans more sympathetic to the Republicans' argument than Obamas.
51%.
Say raising the debt ceiling without plans for major future spending cuts concerns them more.
Well, that's profound.
You gotta start polling on the budget, and the people, the respondents run away from you.
They don't even answer it.
It's such boring stuff.
But now they're in there.
So the Gallup conclusion, the bottom line, despite intense lobbying of Congress by President Obama, Timmy, the tax cheat geithner, and others in the regime about the economic urgency for raising the nation's debt limit.
Fewer than one in four Americans favor the general idea of raising it.
That's how Gallup, I think Gallup is entering the Scott Pelley sweepstakes and sending a message here to the White House.
Hey, you guys better understand where you are and what's going on here.
You have lost the public on the debt ceiling business.
Of course, Obama was asked about that.
The previous to Chip Reed, country doesn't what Obama basically say.
They're too stupid to understand.
So Obama is willing to be arrogant and condescending to the voters.
I don't care what the public thinks.
They're too stupid.
They don't care about any of this.
So we um we have them.
They uh they are on our side.
Let's go to the audio sound bites.
Here's Obama, January 29th and 2010.
Remember, there was a Republican House issues conference in Baltimore, and the Republicans invited Obama to show up at this thing.
January 29, 2010.
It basically is twelfth month in Orifus.
I remember saying it's January and the House is gonna go away for a conference and they go to Baltimore.
Anyway, they did.
They invited Obama up there, and among all the things he said was this.
We're not going to be able to do anything about any of these entitlements if what we do is characterize whatever proposals are put out there as, well, you know, that's the other party's being irresponsible.
The other parties trying to uh hurt our senior citizens.
That the other party is doing XYZ.
That's why I say if we're gonna frame these debates in ways that allow us to solve them, then we can't start off by figuring out a who's to blame.
B, how can we make the American people afraid of the other side?
What did he just do yesterday?
Just the opposites.
Everything he says is a lie or has an expiration date, or what have you.
He doesn't mean it.
Everything he says is for public consumption at that moment in time and no further.
He just said this January of 2010, he just said, We're not gonna come together on this with entitlement reform if we start trying to scare old folks.
What did he do yesterday?
Scare the old folks and the military, and blame the other side.
In direct contravention of what he said he thinks is the right way to do it in January of 2010.
Monday morning, press conference, White House, QA, Chip Reed, CBS News said, you said everybody in the room is willing to do what they have to do to get something done by August 2nd.
But in isn't the problem the people who aren't in the room.
In particular, Republican presidential candidates, Republican Tea Partyers on the American public.
Latest CBS news poll show only 24% of Americans said you should raise the debt limit to avoid an economic catastrophe.
Almost the same number in the Gallup poll.
This is part of the problem with a political process where folks are rewarded For saying irresponsible things to win elections or obtain short-term political games.
And he went on to say, we've played the uh further answer on this on Monday.
He went on to think that people don't care.
Chip, American people don't care.
They're not paying attention.
That's exactly what David Fluff said he was going to say about unemployment.
They're not watching unemployment.
They're selfish.
American people only care about themselves.
They don't care about any of this.
So just Monday, he's out there condemning politicians for saying irresponsible things for the sake of politics.
Expiration date, 24 hours.
Last night, here's the Pelly interview.
Pelley, can you tell the folks at home, Mr. President?
Let me grab the script and make sure I got this right.
Can you uh tell the folks at home that no matter what happens, the Social Security checks are gonna go out on August 3rd?
They're about 20 billion dollars, the Social Security checks that have to go out the day after the government is supposedly gonna go into default.
Can you guarantee the folks out there that no matter what happens, those checks, Mr. President, they're gonna go out.
This is not just a matter of Social Security checks.
These are veterans' checks, these are folks on disability and their checks.
They're about 70 million checks that go out.
Can you guarantee his president those checks will go out on August the third?
I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue.
Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.
Now we ought to parse that too, because he didn't actually say they wouldn't go out.
He didn't really say that.
I can't guarantee they go out if we haven't resolved this issue, because there may simply not be the money in the coffers.
There will be money in the coffers, folks.
There is the money coming in to pay these obligations.
We've been there, done that, and explained it.
That's not even the point.
The money here, the substance is not the point.
And if he doesn't, he can just print some.
Bernanke.
Bernanke is out there just talking about a third stimulus, which means more printing of money.
And of course, the stock markets, they love it.
I mean, they're going nuts.
More stimulus, folks, more printing of money.
Um that's all that is.
So there will be the money to pay for it.
Now, further in the interview, Pelley said, Mike, all of this.
This is so predictable.
This question.
Ronald Reagan, Tip O'Neill were on opposite sides, opposite sides of political spectrum, but they respected each other.
They liked each other.
They got things done.
What a cliched question.
This is something the left throws out all the time.
Tip O'Neill and Reagan got along.
They went out and had beer F. No, they didn't.
Anyway, question Do you like Speaker Boehner?
Here's Obama's answer.
I do.
And uh I think John would like to do the right thing.
Stop his challenge right now.
Stop saying Enrique it.
Do you hear the tone there in the arrogance?
I do.
And I I think John would like to do the right thing.
Meaning I know what the right thing is.
It's my way or the highway.
And I think John wants to do the right thing.
I'm not really sure John may be an idiot.
But I think John wants to do the right thing and see to it that I get re-elected.
I think John knows that he's got the cave if I have any chance of getting re-elected.
I think John knows then.
I I think John would like to see me re-elected.
Here's the rest of it.
I do.
And uh I think John would like to do the right thing.
His challenge right now is inside his caucus.
But I think uh Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill are a great example.
Uh Ronald Reagan repeatedly took steps that included revenue in order For him to accomplish some of these larger goals.
And the question is if Ronald Reagan could compromise, why wouldn't uh folks who idolize Ronald Reagan be willing to engage in those same kinds of compromises?
Well, again, we've answered all this this week, too.
Uh Reagan did it one time until they found out he got lied to and never ever did it again.
They are forgetting that, doing everything they can to continue their history revisionism of the 1980s.
And here is Gloria Borger on the CNN last night, Anderson Cooper 9 said, Gloria, you're referring uh to this as a defining moment or a definitional moment for the Republican Party.
How so?
The president was offering three dollars of spending cuts for every dollar.
I believe even Ronald Reagan probably would have taken that deal.
But there are all these Republicans, 230 of them in the House who have taken a no tax pledge, and they couldn't even sign on to that.
So I think they've made a choice.
And the choice is taxes are more important than deficit reduction.
I think Reagan would have taken that deal.
The president was offering $3 of spending cut.
Gloria, I'm gonna show you.
If I don't go to a break, I'm going to really say some offensive, insulting things, and every damn one of them will be true, but I just don't want to say them.
Let me tell you about Tip O'Neill.
You know there's all this revisionist history.
Tip O'Neill called Ronald Reagan the most ignorant man who had ever occupied the White House.
He O'Neill, I think is the uh author of the uh phrase uh amiable dunce in describing Reagan.
O'Neill also said that Reagan was Herbert Hoover with a smile, a cheerleader for selfishness.
He said that Reagan's policies meant that his presidency was one big Christmas party for the rich.
Tip O'Neill was a leading opponent of the Reagan administration's policies, domestic and foreign defense, what have you.
Following the 1980 election, Republicans won the Senate along with the White House.
O'Neill became the leader of the congressional opposition.
He called Reagan the most ignorant man who had ever occupied the White House.
All this talk about how these guys are good friends and they went out and drank beer after work every day.
It's a bunch of poppycock.
It's just another pack of lies.
And Gloria Borger, we were discussing in the break.
I don't know how old this woman is, but she's seems like she's been around as long as I have.
I mean, ever since I have been paying attention to stuff in Washington, she's been there.
And most of the time was at Newsweek.
That in 1980, during the Reagan administration, she was in Washington covering the events.
I if she doesn't know what Teffra is, if she doesn't know that Reagan took $3 of spending cuts for every new dollar tax increase, did it one time when he was discovered he was lied to.
He never ever did it again.
These guys want to act like Reagan was making those deals all the time with Tip O'Neill.
But I'm saying she was there for crying out.
Does she not remember or is she just purposely obtuse?
And that's being polite.
Okay, Gloria Borger was born in 1952.
So that means that she's 59.
Here's uh here's Paul.
We're gonna go to phones here.
Paul and somebody got to bail me out here because I'm getting my patience.
Wearing very thin.
Paul in Carlsbad, California.
What a what a beautiful place I have been there.
Hello, sir.
It's gorgeous.
Uh but my point, I don't know if I'm gonna bail you out because I think the re the elected Republicans don't want to cut government.
I don't see any signs of it.
Listen, if you increase the debt, you're expanding government.
The only way to cut it is to not increase the debt.
Yeah.
And quite looking at Milton Friedman told us the true tax on the American people, the amount of government.
I hear you.
I know exactly that's why I've been pounding.
Why is there a debt limit in the first place If we're just gonna every 12 or 13, 15 months go through this rigmarole to get past it.
What does it matter?
Why even have one?
The reason we have one is so Democrats get to play this game every year and a half.
The reason we have a debt limit, I'll tell you the real reason that it's there now is precisely so that this scenario can play out every year and a half.
Republicans hate old people, Republicans will defund the military, Republicans will let old people starve, Republicans will take their houses away from them, Republicans will take their health care, just so we can go through this every year and a half.
Is why the debt limits because Paul here is right.
It is time to swallow the pill, the bitter pill, to take our medicine to have peas in our time.
Whatever.
This is the time to start talking about reducing spending.
To stay underneath the debt limit.
But I do gather there's not a whole lot of um support for that, even on the Republican side.
And the Republican freshmen, yeah.
And the Republican conservative caucus, about a hundred of them in the house, yeah, they're all for it.
But uh for the most part, what they're focusing here on serious spending cuts as we raise the debt limit.
They think we've got to raise the debt limit so we're not embarrassed around the world, credit agency-wise, and all that rigmarole.
Thank you.
I always get this wrong.
It was Clark Clifford that called Reagan an amiable dunce.
Clark Clifford.
But you know, I don't care.
Clark, Clark Clifford, Tip O'Neill, Avery O'Harriman, Lyndon Johnson, doesn't matter.
They're all the same.
They're interchangeable.
Any one of them would have called Reagan an amiable dunce or worse.
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