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May 4, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 4, 2011, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Greetings, my good friends El Rushville.
Here the big voice on the right behind the golden EIB microphone, the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
We're having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have today.
We do it every day.
We're happy to have you along as part of it.
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Email address, El Rushbo at EIBNet.com.
Get this, Eric Holder.
The Attorney General just said that our commandos acted in self-defense in the raid to get bin Laden.
Yeah, uh it this gets murkier and murkier every time somebody in this regime speaks up about it.
How could they have acted in self-defense when nobody in the house was armed?
We've been told that everybody in there was unarmed.
You know, I think the media is unhappy.
We got this piece from Mark Halpern at time, unhappy with the way the regime's handling the aftermath, politico ditto.
And I think what's going on here, folks, is that the state control media is unhappy.
They're not getting clear marching orders from the regime on how to handle this.
There are conflicting talking points going out.
Uh and they don't want to have to wing it and think for themselves.
They want to be on the same page as the regime, but people inside the regime are not on the same page.
For example, CNN is now reporting the story about the daughter of bin Laden witnessing his father's or her father's shooting, but they left out her claim that he was shot after he was captured.
She has said that her father, Usama bin Laden, was shot after he was captured.
CNN also reported bin Laden had $750 sewn into his clothes and that he had two telephone numbers on him.
It's a wonder they haven't given out the phone numbers, but I'm guessing they're saving that for the New York Times.
Now, what is and a treasure trove, by the way, uh ladies and gentlemen, a treasure trove of intel is being gathered.
Five computers, hard drives, floppy disks, whatever.
Why if there was no internet access?
We've been told there were no phone lines in or out, that there was no internet access, that there was no television.
Well, why all the computers then?
And by the way, there's a giant satellite dish in that compound.
Have you seen the pictures?
There's a huge dish there.
A lot of things don't jive.
Pakistani authorities say that there were no weapons found in the bin Laden luxury mansion.
And here's Eric Holder saying that this all took place in self-defense.
Now ask this.
Speaking of a treasure trove of intel, wouldn't an alive bin Laden have been an even bigger treasure trove of intel?
But you and I both know the last thing this regime wanted was an alive bin Laden.
Why, Mr. Limbaugh?
Why do you say that?
What is so obvious to you that the regime would, if you say we're not wanting a live bin Laden, very simply, uh, Mr. Newcastrati.
The last thing this regime wanted was a bin Laden alive, subjected to their own foolish policies.
An ACLU lawyer.
Uh a civilian trial, uh, Miranda rights.
That's the last of politically DOA.
No, no, no.
Sturdly, I'm dead sir.
There is no way.
There is no way they were going to take bin Laden alive.
There were no way.
I just don't doubt.
No, there's no way we all would, yeah.
Treasure Trove.
There is no way this administration is going to bring him here alive and apply their own sissified techniques to this guy.
They're not going to you you talk about politically DOA.
You bring Osama bin Laden anywhere.
You put him in Club Gitmo and you give him an ACLU lawyer, and then you promise him a trial.
Everything they've done with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, you there's no way they were going to apply their own sissy fied policies that they've tried on Everybody else to bin Laden.
And if they kept him alive and they brought him here and they did anything other than that, their base would go absolutely nuts.
I mean, this regime has talked about restoring American values, America's reputation around the world, Miranda rights and all this on the battlefield.
If they capture the guy and they bring him here and they don't treat him the way they have demanded that everybody, every other prisoner be treated, they are heap heap big doo-doo.
There's no way.
No way whatsoever.
Well, I don't know why.
Why don't they?
They did just say they shot him.
Obama pretty much, just like with those Somali pirates.
I pulled a trigger, I mean I. And now all of a sudden, now Holder says it's self-defense.
The Pakistanis said there weren't any weapons in there.
By the way, this luxury mansion was built by Mohammed El Fatwa Alibi, who was the number three guy.
I don't know who the architect was, but clearly these people are still in the seventh century.
So Alibi built the thing.
Uh and uh he later was he later was was uh was captured uh on a tip from uh Pakistanis got him on a tip from uh from us from U.S. authorities.
It was built in 2003 by uh Mohammed Al Fatwa Alibi, who was the guy who replaced Khalid Sheikh Muhammad.
Will that place become a shrine?
Hell, it already is a media shrine.
Whoa, we're not gonna blow it up.
It's up to the Pakistanis.
We've already done our bit, gotten in there, got it, and gotten out.
We're not gonna blow the place up.
I I well, who knows what we'll do.
They they claim we don't want a shrine to bin Laden, but there it is.
The media is using it as a shrine.
Now the kids, when they're soccer balls, go over to walk and actually go get the balls now rather than have to be paid two or three bucks.
So the neighborhood's probably um a little happier about it.
All right, I've just been told, ladies and gentlemen, that F. Chuck Todd of uh MSNBC on Twitter just said that Obama has decided not to release the photos.
F. Chuck Todd on Twitter says the not going to release the photos.
That's it.
They're not gonna release the photos.
By the way, here's Eric uh Holder.
I'm referenced this earlier.
I want you to hear the bite.
Uh, shortly after this program started just afternoon, Holder was testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Let me make something very clear.
The operation in which Osama bin Laden was killed was lawful.
He was the head of Al-Qaeda, an organization that had conducted the attacks of September the 11th.
He admitted his involvement, as you indicate, he said he would not be taken alive.
The operation against bin Laden was justified as an act of national self-defense.
Okay, there you have it.
It just gets more convoluted every time the regime opens up.
Uh national self-defense, unarmed.
There are no weapons in there.
By the way, the dollar has hit a three-year low.
How can that be?
Obama killed Osama.
How can that be?
And how about this?
According to CNN, 44.2 million Americans now use food stamps.
That's one out of every seven Americans use food stamps.
But Osama killed Obama.
Uh Obama killed Osama.
How can how can there be any bad news?
How can this happen?
Unemployment, private sector, U.S. private employers added fewer jobs than expected in April.
But but Obama killed Osama.
This is not possible.
This bad news should not be happening.
From the politico, Amid some inconsistencies in early administration and media accounts of bin Laden's death, a reader points out that President Obama himself was always, if very subtly clear, that the terrorist not be killed in a show that the was not killed in a shootout.
A reader points out Obama himself was always clear the terrorist was not killed in a shootout.
Indeed, two pieces of language that seemed more consistent with bin Laden's being shot and killed deliberately, as in some reports, was the goal of the mission.
Here's Obama on Sunday night.
Today, at my direction.
The United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbadabad, Pakistan.
A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability.
No Americans were harmed.
They took care to avoid civilian casualties.
After a fire fight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.
They shot an unarmed bin Laden after a fire fight.
The key word there is after, not during.
And it matches the revised White House account.
You had to be listening extremely carefully the first night to catch that nuance.
In less formal remarks last night, Obama offered a similar sequence describing an operation that resulted in the capture and death of Osama bin Laden.
The UK Daily Mail shot dead with money sewn into his clothes.
Osama bin Laden's daughter has claimed he was captured alive in his Pakistani hideout and then shot by U.S. Special Forces, it was reported today.
Arabic news network Al Arabia quoted senior Pakistani security officials who said the 12-year-old saw her father executed and his body dragged to a helicopter.
He had money sewn into his clothes, and there were two telephone numbers in his clothes.
They haven't released the phone numbers.
They probably, as I say, saving that for the New York Times.
Speaking of which, from the New York Times.
New U.S. account says bin Laden was unarmed during raid.
Osama bin Laden was not carrying a weapon when he was killed by American troops in a fortified house in Pakistan, the White House said Tuesday, as it revised its initial account of the nighttime raid.
Members of a Navy SEAL's team burst in on bin Laden in the compound where he was hiding, shot him in a room on an upper floor after a fierce gun battle with other operatives of Al-Qaeda on the first floor.
But the Pakistanis said there were no weapons anywhere in this compound.
Bin Laden's wife, who was with him in the room, rushed the U.S. assaulter and was shot in the leg but not killed, said White House spokesman Jay Carney, reading from the brief account which was provided by the Defense Department.
Bin Laden was then shot and killed.
And then it says this.
The episode reveals the pressures as the White House, intent on telling a dramatic story about a successful operation, sought to manage a 24-hour news media ravenous for immediate and vivid details.
Other experts noted the members of the Navy SEALs faced difficult conditions.
Moving through dim rooms under gunfire, needing to make a split-second judgment about whether Bin Laden posed a threat.
They say he was unarmed now, but did the SEALs know he was unarmed?
Said Scott Sillman, an expert on wartime legal doctrine at Duke.
It was in the dark.
They were wearing they were wearing goggles.
Now, all of a sudden now, and I'm glad, all of the troops get compassion now, but remember when these same seals were knocking on doors in Haditha?
Remember when the Marines were knocking on doors and it was John Kerry and John Merther were calling them terrorists?
They were terrorizing women and children.
A Navy SEAL was court martialed for giving a terrorist leader in Iraq a fat lip.
But now, members of the Navy SEALs faced difficult conditions, dim rooms under gunfire, while the stress in the air conditioned situation room mounted.
Washington Post, Osama bin Laden resisted assault but was unarmed.
And we'll be back.
Self-defense, you see.
Okay, folks, it's official.
There will be no release of the photo of the corpse of Osama bin Laden.
Uh Obama announced a gutsy decision not to release the pictures during the middle of an interview with Steve Croft for 60 minutes, which will air Sunday.
So the victory lap on Sunday on 60 minutes was during that interview that the Gutsy decision not to release the photo was announced by um President Obama.
And the Pakistani authorities, I mean, to the extent that we can believe anybody here, says that there was no fire fight in the luxury mansion.
There were no weapons in there.
There could not possibly have been a fire fight.
Pakistan says this.
To the phones.
Queens is where we go next to Selma.
Nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Thank you, Rush.
I want to thank you and the EIB network for allowing airing my comment, and you haven't censored uh anybody's free speech, you've had a grandizer, so really for my.
Hey uh Selman, Selma, are you on a speakerphone by any chance?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, but you hear me.
Much better.
It sounded like you were in the sewer.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I want to thank you and the EIB network for allowing me to uh uh to air my my comment.
It's a gutsy call that we made.
There's no question about that.
Uh Rush, listen, with regard to the Navy SEALs, our boys and girls, whoever they were, they certainly did have the target.
My my fear is and and my pain is that was it the real deal?
And because the body, which is crucial evidence, was eliminated so quickly, and as you know, like that picture Wag the Dog with De Niro and Hoffman, they can doctor anything and everything.
It doesn't matter.
Oh, I know.
There's already a bunch of fake photos running around the internet now.
Exactly.
So when Mr. Obama, our president says I'm not going to release it, well, I can understand what he had to hold to his person in our government was that body.
And I'm I'm I'm afraid why our government although we did all the work, it was our boys that were on the line.
However, other governments and other people have been hit.
I I'm wondering why Entipol and and people from other countries were not allowed.
Their CIA to keep that body, examine it all together.
Uh you know, uh the harvesting that's not a good thing.
No, no, there's a no, no, no, no, wait a minute, Selma.
There's a there's an answer for this, and that is the uh uh desire to remain true to Muslim burial uh uh uh rights, uh uh traditions and so forth.
There wasn't time to call Interpol.
Um there there wasn't there wasn't the time to uh to call any of the equivalent CIA agencies from various countries.
Are you uh what what is what are you getting at here?
Are are you doubting that the body was that of Obama?
Yes, Osama?
Yes, you're right.
I make that mistake all the time.
Yes, Rush, I really I am frightened that this body uh the seals hit something, but is it that person?
Is it that person?
And why was I a government so quick to eliminate and listen, I'm a Jewish woman, I understand rights and okay.
If you want to play this game, let me throw as a big voice on the right, let me throw something in the mix here.
I am convinced bin Laden is dead.
I just don't know that he died Sunday night.
Here go Huck.
The staff is going nuts.
They can't believe that I would do this.
I just said I don't I I have no doubt that he's dead.
Uh if he's not dead, that would be gutsy.
If if if uh we have indeed captured him and brought him back to Club Giftmo and are interrogating him and have made up this whole bit about him being dead, that that would be that would be gutsy.
Uh no, I'm just toying with you folks.
Just I mean, everybody seems to want to get in on this uh on this on this act.
Um remember do you remember me telling you this?
Um I I I'm I'm no longer going to reveal the source for this, but it's irreputable.
I mean, this this source.
What is this?
This is this is 2011.
I am I'm telling you, eight years ago, I was told that bin Laden was seen on horseback at Torabora ten minutes before we turned the place 2,000 degrees.
So I folks, I don't think if you have astute memories, you can recall me saying over all of these every time a bin Laden tape came out.
I've I don't believe the guy's alive.
I thought he's been dead for a long, long, long time.
Now if I was wrong and if if if bin Laden uh actually died Sunday, fine and dandy.
I have no disputing the fact that he's dead whatsoever.
You feel better now, Steph.
That's funny.
That's do you remember?
Do you remember in um in 2000, when I want to get the years right here, Walter Cronkite accused Carl Rove of fabricating a bin Laden tape that essentially endorsed Kerry.
There was a bin Laden tape that came out, and only his head was moving in this video.
It was the weirdest looking video.
And I think it came out the Friday prior to the 2004 election.
What I'm confused about, what I don't recall is when Cronkite made this.
Something tells me that Cronkite said it in 2003, so Cronkite might have been talking about a different bin Laden tape than the one that endorsed Kerry in 2004.
But Cronkite, we'll go back to the archives, I'll find it for you.
Cronkite actually accused Carl Rove of creating a bin Laden tape.
He made it in a speech or a comment somewhere.
Anyway, Tony, on Long Island somewhere.
Great to have you on the Rush Limbaugh program of the big voice of the right.
Hello, sir.
How are you doing, Rush?
Very good.
Good.
I'm glad to hear that you're doing well.
I have a question I'd like to ask you.
Do you know who the person is who allowed that 45-minute religious funeral to be taken place for that piece of garbage?
I do not know.
I don't know who who allowed it.
I don't know who ordered it.
I don't know who conducted it.
I I don't know.
The only thing I've heard about that was that it was conducted in Arabic, that it that it was it was uh done with translator, uh that the body of bin Laden was cleaned and uh shrouded in a cloth and laid gently or deposited gently in the Arabian Sea.
Yeah, I I heard the same thing.
I'm just I'm totally dismayed at hearing that our government would do that to a creature that destroyed the lives of over three thousand people on 9-11.
I'm just gonna be able to do that.
Well, you know, a lot of people are with you on that, and I've I've heard I've heard uh Senator Lindsay Graham has said this is politically uh political correctness run amuck, that this is this is uh this is too much sensitivity.
Other people have said, no, this is who we are.
You know, we we're we're we're we're not going to behave like they do in in in in uh in an act of vengeance.
Uh we're we're going to be who we are.
But a 40-minute ceremony, that does have a lot of people scratching their heads.
40 minute ceremony.
We don't know what the 40 minute ceremony consisted of.
We do know that none of the people killed in the Pentagon, the World Trade Center or who died in the field in Pennsylvania got a 40 minute ceremony.
I doubt it very much.
I just, I mean, we're becoming an a nation of milksops.
Uh I just can't believe how the liberals in this country are overruling what this country actually stands for, and what the people, our forefathers did to make this country what it once was.
It's no longer that's that way.
Let me ask you since you mentioned what this country once was.
Yeah.
Um, let me ask you a quick question.
Sure.
I was reading uh the website National Review Online today, and I forget right now who wrote this, but apparently Mitch Daniels, the governor of Indiana, is highly thought of by the conservatives at National Review Online.
And whoever wrote this said that one of Mitch Daniels' attributes is that he's not a combative conservative.
What does that mean to you?
It means that he's a win.
Uh-huh.
That's what it means.
He's the kind of person that will turn his other cheek and then turn it again and maybe bend over.
Well, I read that, and I I thought, combative conservative.
What does that mean?
And they said, Well, now, were the founding fathers combative?
They were, weren't they?
What what did what did the men who founded this country go through?
What in in in fighting for what they believe standing up for, creating, founding the country.
What they fought the American Revolution.
It was a combative.
I I see these things uh as an attribute.
Uh so-and-so is not a combative conservative, which and I take in the modern vernacular means he's serious, Mr. Linbohr.
He's a serious conservative.
Um, Ramesh, it was Ramesh Panuru.
His conservatism is not combative.
That's that's the phrase.
And I saw that.
I said, Whoa.
Though that's an attribute.
His conservatism is not combative.
Well, I think it's indication of uh where some on the right are vis-a-vis how to go about winning elections.
Don't be combative out there, be serious, uh studious and so forth.
So on.
Meanwhile, we're losing the country.
We're not we're not just facing four years of your average run among Democrat policy.
We've got two and a half years of a targeted assault, which is highly combative on our way of life, on our political way of life, on our economic way of life.
There is a targeted assault on it.
What are we supposed to do?
Here's the Cronkite quote.
It was on Larry King Alive, October 29, 2004.
So my instincts were right.
Even when I think I might be wrong, I end up being right.
Cronkite said what we just heard.
So now the question is basically right now, how will this affect the election?
And I have a feeling that it could tilt the election a bit.
In fact, I'm a little inclined to think that Carl Rove, the political manager at the White House, is a very clever man.
He probably set up bin Laden to this thing.
The advantage to the Republican side is to get rid of as a principal subject of the campaign right now, get rid of the whole problem of the Al-Qaeda explosive dump.
Uh right now, the last couple of days, I think has upset the Republican campaign.
That was the most trusted man in America at one time, Walter Cronkite, on Larry King Live saying that that Obama Osama tape that came in on the Friday before the 2004 election was there is a Carl Rove set up bin Laden.
Not set it up with bin Laden, but set up Bin Laden to make that tape, which was essentially an endorsement of the haughty John Kerry, who once served in Vietnam.
The big voice on the right, Rush Limbaugh driving the independence back to Obama, it is said by some.
Telephone number 800 282-2882.
All right, Panetta said the photo would be released.
Obama, from the safety of the interview with Steve Croft 60 Minutes, made the gutsy call not to release the photo.
What?
Eh, what are you, my fault?
Oh, all says I when I speculated that uh it could be that Panetta was actually running the op that that sealed the deal for the photo.
Because Panetta had gone out there and said the photo will be released.
And then I said, if I were to learn that Panetta's actually running this show, I wouldn't be surprised.
So your theory is that the one has had to reassert himself as the one in charge, and that means he has to cut Panetta off at the knees.
Okay, so now what do we do?
What do we do?
Have we been here before?
We have recently.
A document that nobody doubts exists, but would not be released by the regime.
There is guidance here.
Intelligence guided by experience.
One man.
One man has shown the ability to get this regime to produce things it doesn't want to produce, and that man is Donald Trump.
It's time to call Trump.
They said Panetta said they're going to release the photo.
Other elements of the regime said they were going to release the photo.
I mean, Drudge had it 24 hours ago.
They were going to release the photo.
Maybe Trump, maybe Trump could get them to release if just the short form of the photo.
Well, you know, may maybe just the email size.
You know, just a couple hundred kilobytes.
Not as gory.
When you blow it up.
Sue in Toledo, Ohio.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Great to have you here.
Ditto's.
Thank you very much.
Hey, I can make a couple points on the same issue on the ground force mission.
Um, first, I believe that the real gutsy call was made by the CIA, NSA, and the military brass, because I think just as important as bin Laden's body was the intel to compound.
And not really many people are really making these this highlighting this point.
They're saying yes, we have intel, but that's because they're being braggadocious.
Well, no, they are.
They're calling it a trove, a treasure of five.
Yeah, which is yeah.
First of all, I mean, I I think that it was the brass that made the gutsy call, not Obama.
He would want one to go in with a bomb and wanted to go in um and just make it real safe.
But but now that they've gone in, he was pressured in for this uh ground force uh mission because of the they all knew the NFA and such that the intel was absolutely vital.
More just as much as uh the DNA, so to speak, of bin Laden's body.
But now they're out there, it's just embarrassing and it's just atrocious how they're bragging, making it such a braggadocious way about how they've got a treasure trove of Intel, which is making the the Well, what are they supposed to say?
That it was worthless operation, that there was nothing in there, what are they supposed to say?
They're supposed to say they got bin Laden and shut their mouth after that.
Because you don't have CIA NSA and all that.
You don't see an old brass coming out and talk to the White House.
We got the White House out here bragging.
I I see what you say.
In a normal administration, they go in, they get the intel and they use it.
They keep it private and they use it to our advantage rather than vomiting all over the world that they've got it and alerting every okay, yes, I understand the point now.
Absolutely.
Okay, look, I appreciate it there, Sue.
Appreciate the phone call.
A quick timeout, my friends, L Rushball back after this.
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