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April 1, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 1, 2011, Friday, Hour #2
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Yes, America's Anchorman is away today, and this is your undocumented anchorman sitting in, Mark Stein.
Honored to be with you.
No supporting paperwork whatsoever.
Rush will return live on Monday.
But in the meantime, you know what the end of the week means.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
It's open line Friday.
From I wish it were.
I wish it.
Close enough.
We're in the general hemisphere, aren't we?
I don't know.
I'd find that more amusing if we weren't in the snowbound northeast, but we're not actually in sunny Florida.
Nevertheless, it is Open Line Friday, 1-800-282-2882.
That's about as accurate.
I paid in a check from New Zealand.
I deposited a New Zealand check at my bank in New Hampshire, and they sent it for collection to Australia.
And by the time it came back, it had expired because they'd sent this New Zealand check to Australia for collection.
And they couldn't understand why I was upset about it.
They thought, hey, man, we're in the general ballpark.
That's close enough.
Likewise, Open Line Friday direct from sunny South Florida is close enough.
1-800-282-2882, whatever you want to talk about.
I mentioned earlier that Al-Qaeda spokesman Abu Yahya Al-Libby, yeah, I got my Yahya groove thing working today.
Abu Yahya Al-Libby, Al-Qaeda spokesperson, has called Hillary Clinton the Old Lady of Malice.
And what was it I was saying?
There was an old lady from Malice who went to bomb Gaddafi's palace or whatever it was.
If you can complete that limerick, you may be eligible for a federal cowboy poetry grant.
So that's something.
Get that pencil, get that piece of paper.
That'll cost you about 79 cents.
But your federal poetry grant may be, you know, $15,000 or whatever.
So you'll come out ahead.
It's worth the 79 cent investment.
Hillary Rodden Clinton, the old lady of Malice, also talking about Musa Kusa, the defecting.
Apparently, there's now something like 12 cabinet ministers who are planning on defecting to the United Kingdom.
There will be more Libyan cabinet ministers than British cabinet ministers in London within 48 hours.
So there are big developments on the Libyan scene and we will keep track of those.
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I just want to return to a point that Roe made.
Roe was basically saying, look, you know, we should settle for what we get.
What counts is who we elect in 2012.
I think it's more important than that.
I think this is make or break time for the Republic.
And I mean that.
And I've said this before, because I think that in a sense, we've become complacent about the state of the world.
We assume that the way things are is a permanent feature.
And we don't understand how bad things can get and how fast they can get bad.
And I think we're approaching a crunch time on that.
And that what we require is more and more ordinary citizens of the United States understanding the reality of that situation.
And when more and more citizens understand the reality of that situation, then eventually, like these fellas responding to turbulence in the Middle East, the elites will be obliged to respond.
And I'm encouraged by that.
That's why I'm encouraged by that Rasmussen poll, where 57% of likely American voters Say that spending cuts are more important than a potential government shutdown.
Here's another example of this.
Global warming now ranks last in importance, even among, even on environmental issues.
According to a new poll of Americans conducted by Gallup, only 25% of responders worry, quote, a great deal, unquote, about global warming.
Why is this?
Why is this?
Because these things are indulgences.
You worry about climate change.
You worry about a one-degree increase in temperature across the course of the 20th century when you don't have anything real to worry about.
Right now, today, more and more Americans have something real to worry about, and saving the planet has to be moved to the back burner.
We don't need to save the planet.
We need to save ourselves, and we need to save our cities, and we need to save our states, and we need to save this republic.
That's more important than saving the planet.
The planet will do just fine.
The planet will still be here.
But it's a kind of decadence.
It's a kind of decadence by pampered elites who have become disconnected from the primal impulses of life when they sit around saying, well, you know, I think we should pass a carbon tax and attempt to change the very atmosphere of the planet rather than dealing with what's going on down here on the ground.
And I'm encouraged by things.
I'm encouraged by polls that show 57% of likely American voters regard spending cuts as more important than a government shutdown and that global warming is sliding down the list of priorities even for people who are concerned about environmental issues.
But that's why, and this is why I think Roe may be slightly, I think, being slightly too cautious, is that there is an element of urgency about all this.
I mentioned earlier that there's a story in the Wall Street Journal today by Stephen Moore.
Stephen Moore's written a column headed, We Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers.
He points out that there are now nearly twice as many people working for the government than in all of manufacturing.
There's 22.5 million people working for the government.
There's about 11.5 million working in manufacturing.
California has the highest budget deficit in America, highest budget deficit in the history of this country.
And it has 2.4 million government workers.
Now, do you think that those two facts are unconnected?
The cost of state and local governments in the United States, and we're now not talking about the federal debt, we're not talking about the federal deficit.
We're not talking about the 20% of federal revenues that are going to be going toward paying just the interest on the federal debt.
We're now talking about state and municipal government, which is an entirely separate thing.
State and municipal government costs $2.2 trillion.
Half of that, $1 trillion of that, is for the pay and benefits of state and local employees.
Now, that is a ratio.
When you're looking at a business that size, that is a ratio that would be extraordinary in any other business, in any other business.
Yet it is entirely normal in the business of government.
Here's just a, you know, the sort of story that turns up on the news pages almost every day now.
This is Reuters.
Washington, D.C. has become the favorite area for wealthy young adults, with the nation's highest percentage of 25 to 34-year-olds making more than $100,000 a year.
Now, why do you think that Washington, D.C. has the highest percentage of 25 to 34-year-olds making more than $100,000 a year?
It's a, yeah, it's the biggest percentage of money, but it's also the biggest percentage.
It becomes a magnet where people go to make money.
Once upon a time, it used to be great mercantile centers.
Once upon a time, when you went to a steel town in America, you'd see the big houses on the residential avenues.
Now the steel towns look like hell.
All the porches are sagging, and the clabbards are peeling, and the railroad depot, where all America's products used to be shipped to the world, has been converted into a heritage center with a federally funded Cowboy Poetry Festival.
And all the money, all the money is in Washington, D.C. Every time I mention Detroit, I get into trouble, so I don't want to dwell on this.
But the fact that since Detroit converted itself from an industrial base to a government base, to a welfare base, and it's seen this immense deterioration in population and everything, people go where power is.
And power in America is no longer in manufacturing centers, in mercantile centers, it's in government.
Of the 50 counties with the biggest percentage of young high earners, 16 are in the District of Columbia area.
Of the top 10 counties with the highest percentage of young high earners, only two, only two of those counties are not near either Washington, D.C. or a state capital.
This is from Reuters.
Reuters put this fascinating analysis in the lifestyle section of its news briefs, which makes sense because the easiest way to a lifestyle these days is a government job.
And that's the problem in America.
Stephen Moore, in his article today in the Wall Street Journal, says that surveys of college graduates, college graduates, these are people, in other words, who've had six-figure educations.
They're finding out that more and more of these college graduates want to work for the government because government work has lifetime security.
What kind of country is this going to be when 23-year-olds aren't willing to take care of risks?
When 23-year-olds want to work for government, not just because that's where the big money is, that's where the big benefits are, that's where the index-linked healthcare plans are, but also that's because that's where the lifetime security is.
The American dream now is to work for the DMV.
The dream of these young people is to work for the DMV.
It is not possible to have the United States of America in any recognizable form under this scenario.
And that is why Roe, with respect to Roe, I think the issue here is not the 2012 election.
I'm a pessimist to that extent.
I never underestimate the likelihood that the Republican Party will screw up the nominating process.
And we will end up – we will end up with the usual disastrous – I remember my memory of my whole approach to the Republican Party was formed by watching the Bob Dole campaign close up, where I would watch Bob Dole campaign.
He would go to high schools in New Hampshire and they'd set up these crowd control barriers for a Bob Dole speech, right?
Crowd control barriers.
And then they'd realize there was no crowd to control.
They should be so lucky as to have a mob of Bob Dole groupies so fired up they want to rampage past the barriers and mob the guy.
There was no such thing.
And then we had that all over again with the McCain thing.
I don't underestimate the ability of the Republican Party to screw up the nominating process one more time.
So what's important is to change the facts on the ground, to make the candidate, to do what Milton Friedman said.
You can try to elect the right people to do the right things, but in the end, it's more important to force the wrong people to do the right things.
If you can force Susan Collins and Olympia Snow to stay on the reservation during all the healthcare debate, that's an important lesson.
And that's how Republicans should be thinking.
The 2012 election will come and go, and on the morning after the 2012 election, regardless of who wins, this country will still be the brokest nation in history.
And that is the crisis of America.
And we have to change the facts on the ground with millions of American voters to make them understand that.
1-800-282-2882-Mark Stein in for Rush.
Let's go to Kyle in Mercersburg, Pennsylvania.
Kyle, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Great to have you with us.
Well, it's great to be with you.
How are you?
I'm doing good.
How are you?
Oh, not too bad.
For a start-up private business owner and worst economy in the history of the country.
Yeah, well, that's your big mistake right there.
You should have gone for a government job, and you can retire at 53 on 80% of your salary with index-linked health care and pensions and benefits and spend the last three decades of your life sitting around at taxpayers' expense.
That's the economic model for the future, Kyle.
Yeah, unfortunately, since I was just a C-grade student in high school, I wasn't smart enough to figure out I should have got a government job.
I actually put forth effort and work.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that effort and work model, that was fine for like sturdy 19th century Republic of yeoman farmers, but it's not going to fly in the new 21st century knowledge economy.
In the knowledge economy, the knowledge you need is where's the government office, go there, fill in the form and get a government job.
You're exactly right.
You know, you hit on something earlier that really, really just sounded like something I say a lot.
I don't understand why everybody thinks that just because they go to college and pay a lot of money for their education, they automatically have some sort of value that they should make scale wage or they should make, you know, $25 an hour out of the gate or $75,000 a year salary with all their benefits and everything.
It just doesn't make sense.
I don't understand why some of these people don't focus more on a vocation instead of an education.
Well, I think one of the problems is that most of the, you can't have the massive expansion of college education that America has had since the Second World War and still have it be a college education in any recognizable sense.
In 1940, the majority of Americans had an eighth grade education.
Eighth grade America built America.
Everything that was great about America, all its great industries, was built by eighth grade America.
Since then, we've doubled the length of time, in effect, that people spend in school.
And the idea that you can possibly, that these people would possibly be studying any genuine scholarly discipline in this massive expansion of university education, Kyle, is completely preposterous.
Most people are just sort of killing time there till what less enlightened societies would call early middle age.
And I think that's actually a big part of the problem, that if you're used to, If you go to college and spend half a decade doing anything with the word studies in the title, you know, gender studies, Latino studies, queer studies, the great thing about studying any discipline with the word studies in the title is it involves very little studying.
And you do that for half a decade, and then it seems kind of great.
Why would you then want to start working?
You've had your early part of your adult life has been this kind of extended leisure.
Why not become a diversity consultant like Michelle Obama for $350,000 a year?
It was such an indispensable job to the University of Chicago hospitals that when she got promoted to first lady, they didn't replace her.
That's how indispensable Michelle Obama's $350,000 a year diversity consultancy gig was to the University of Chicago hospitals.
So when she goes swanning off to the Oval Office to grow organic vegetables and tell us, you know, tell her unruly subjects, let them not eat cake, that the University of Chicago hospitals didn't even bother replacing her.
The 350 grand diversity consultant turned out to be entirely unnecessary.
And that, in that sense, Kyle, the Obama model.
You know, Obama is now, you know, the other thing he's doing.
It's not enough that we've had this massive expansion of the government workforce.
He's saying that everybody else, when you borrow money to go for college, to go to college, you've got to pay it back.
But he says if you go into, quote, public service, unquote, your college debts will be wiped out after 10 years.
You won't have to repay them.
In other words, he wants to divert even more members of the productive class into the government class, Kyle.
There's no end to this.
There's no end in sight.
It's just, it's absurd.
It just frustrates me because even at a time when we have the highest unemployment that we've had in forever, there's still not really employable people if you're looking for employees.
They're people that don't want to work hard.
They don't want to start somewhere.
If you can't pay them at least double what they're getting on unemployment, they're uninterested to come out of their house for the most part.
And it's just aggravating.
So it makes a guy like me who says, well, you know, if I build time for X amount and I got to pay you half of that plus your workman's comp and everything else, why do I want you?
Why don't I just work a few more hours a day and make all that money for myself?
Because I am motivated.
Well, no, no, Kyle, that's the wrong model.
Instead of not hiring someone, you should basically give your company to somebody on condition that they hire you as their diversity consultant.
And then you'd have very little to do and you'd be making a nice salary.
That's what people want.
People want a well-paying non-job.
People want to be a community organizer or a diversity consultant.
They don't want to be there doing back-breaking work, not getting home till late in the evening.
That's your mistake, Kyle.
Give the company to somebody on condition they hire you back as their diversity consultant/slash community organizer.
Rebuilding America's economic model for the 21st century.
Mark Stein in for Rush.
It is Open Line Friday.
Lots more still to come.
Yes, Rush Returns live on Monday.
I mentioned earlier that Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, had denounced Hillary Clinton as the old lady of malice.
And I threw out a couple of, what did I say?
I think there was an old lady of malice who went to bomb Gaddafi's Palace or something.
And said, if you could finish it, there might be a federal cowboy poetry grant in it for you.
I got one from a fellow called Nevada Chuck, who certainly sounds like a cowboy poet, but the second line, the old lady of malice, rhymed with the word phallus.
And I don't think I can read it on the air, but undoubtedly, if you were to soak the poem in urine, you could probably get an NEA grant for it.
And then Sharon, Sharon said to me, there was an old lady of Malice who was dowdy, frumpy, and callous.
Should she run just in case to appeal to her base, she bombed Colonel Gaddafi's palace.
That's not bad.
That's not bad.
Thank you.
Thank you, Sharon.
That's worth a $15,000 grant.
Let's go to Rudy in Idaho.
I don't know whether – are you anywhere specifically in Idaho, Rudy?
Yes, sir, I am.
I'm just north of Weezer, Idaho, and you all know where that's at.
Right.
I got it.
My mental GPS is hovering above you like an unmanned drone right now, Rudy.
That's excellent.
Thank you for clearing that up.
First, I must tell you, sir, it's a great honor to get to speak with you.
Well, it's great to speak with you too, Rudy.
I love your great state.
I'm Canadian, so I should be loyal to Prince Edward Island potatoes, but I got to say I like those Idaho ones too.
Oh, you betcha.
I have been hearing you catching a lot of flack on this cowboy poetry thing, and I think you need a little bit of support on this.
I have been involved with cowboy poetry since its rebirth some 30-some years ago.
Right.
You are right on the money with this Elko thing.
Over 30 years ago, I attended a meeting where Hal Cannon, the director, proudly talked about the federal monies he was getting.
At that time, he said, We are receiving over $100,000 in Arts Commission monies to produce this show.
Right.
Wow.
I would like to make this really very clear.
They were the granddaddy of the rebirth of cowboy poetry.
They did not invent it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
No, that's true.
Okay.
Now, he boasted, rather, Harry Reid boasted of hundreds of thousands of people coming.
Their annual attendance is approximately 6,000 people.
Right.
Now, they are only one of over 200 such events that take place across the United States and Canada.
Now, is there still a cowboy poetry private sector in the United States then?
And presumably in Canada, too?
I would have to say a private sector, if I'm hearing you right on that.
All of these events are funded by private sponsors, which are usually car dealers, grocery stores, and so forth.
The largest event I helped with the development of this program takes place in Lubbock, Texas.
When I left them five years ago, they were bringing over 35,000 fans annually.
So they've got six times as many in Lubbock as Harry Reid's federally funded cowboy poetry boondoggle in Elko.
Absolutely, sir.
Absolutely.
And none of these other 200-plus events receive any federal tax money.
I produced the Idaho State Cowboy Poetry Gathering for 18 consecutive years.
We were bringing those numbers of fans to Idaho without any federal money.
In fact, the Arts Commission people went to war with me to get me banned from any support.
So they were basically, so like the feds, the feds are like coming down on you like Pinkerton men in the old west to force you, to force you to take the federal money.
Or something like that.
They want you, you're out there, you're out there in the territory, and They don't want to let you, they want to, they're just, yeah, right now, we're here to help.
Federal marshals.
It isn't quite as generous as that.
Years ago, I drew a picture, a metaphor for Hal Cannon to understand.
He asked me at that particular meeting when I caught on to what was going on.
And I said, I'm not real bright.
It took me about the second year to see what was going on.
And he said, well, how do you see it?
I took a piece of paper from him.
We were sitting across the table, and I drew a picture of a wagon wheel.
I said, here is what's going on in my understanding.
I said, if you take the axle of this cowboy poetry movement and you label that Hal Cannon, if you make the hub Elko, Nevada, then you take the spokes and you put them under the control of the local arts commission.
Right.
And the wheel and the rim are the cowboys, the approved cowboy poets and cowboy singers.
Wow, this is one awesome metaphor.
So, like, the axle is this guy Cannon.
Absolutely.
And the hub is, the hub is Elko, and the spokes are the federal funding, and then the rim is the cowboy poets.
Is that right?
That's correct.
He made that same statement.
He said, this is an interesting metaphor.
He said, what is wrong with it?
And I said, well, nothing really.
It's really quite brilliant if you have a wheelbarrow.
But a wagon has four wheels.
There's more than one wagon on the prairie.
You're not going to control at all.
So he'd literally put the cart before the horse.
Yes.
It was been so funny.
They have featured the same three or four main characters under Elko control as their main entertainment.
So now, so with under federal funding, just like you get Barney Frank for life, you get cowboy poets for life.
If you can imagine, when they came near losing their federal funding because they used the same people over and over again, and they called themselves a national event, they were threatened to lose their financial support from the government.
They devoted their next show to the Hispanic influence on cowboy poetry.
That year, they featured the same four people.
Well, that worked well.
The next year, they featured the Native Americans influence in cowboy poetry.
Wow, fabulous.
Fabulous.
And guess who they featured?
The same four poets.
I've got the hang of it now.
Next year, it's the Belgian influence on cowboy poetry, and it'll be the same four cowboy poets.
Well, they are a poetry event.
They brought in, and now this has nothing to do with cowboys.
They started bringing Australian poets, Brazilian poets, poets from Argentina.
Oh, great.
So now, so now we're federally funded.
We're subsidizing other countries' cowboy poetry.
It's the same buddy-doe.
Have they had any Libyan cowboy poets yet?
Now, their poetry is not even cowboy.
What caused a number of us to walk out was he concluded that by saying this is an arts commission function, so we are now going to have special programs of blue poetry.
Right.
And you know what blue poetry is.
Yeah, no, no, I'm sure.
The guy who said me, there was an old lady for Mallas, and it rhymed with Phallas.
I'm no stranger to blue poetry.
But you're basically saying that now, no, under this program, you can sponsor Brazilian cowboy poets.
And what are they down there?
Gaucher.
No, that's Argentina, the gauchos, isn't it?
And then Libya, Libyan cowboy poets, they don't have cowboy, they got chics, they got the desert, the desert chic, yeah, Running into town on camels.
So, no cowboy poets actually need be involved in the cowboy, federally funded cowboy poetry event.
You can just absolutely not.
In fact, they went to war, I mean, literal war against all those who were not sanctioned by the Elko people.
Oh, this is the this is just this is credentialism.
So, so you're saying, unless you're if you're not a federally accredited cowboy poet, you're you're you're in non-compliance with with the federal bureau of cowboy poetry compliance.
This has to do with you must be approved by the arts commission, right?
Right.
This is uh you have been right on the money.
I've listened to people come in and try to straighten you out, and it's it's not fair, it's just not a right analysis.
Uh, when I put together the Idaho gathering, they it was incredible what they did, and I can document all of this with newspaper clippings and articles that they had written where they were saying nobody would come to a cowboy poetry uh thing that I put on because you were just some like wild,
lawless Western cowboy poetry beyond uh, you know, beyond the bounds of the of the of the federally of the tamed federally licensed cowboy statement, Mark, if I may.
I'm not I'm not looking to entertain anymore.
I have been the politically incorrect cowboy, which has worked for me.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I like that.
Don't don't fence yourself in.
Uh, that's uh, that's that's the way to that's the way to think of it, uh, Rudy.
I'm I'm actually heartened by what you said because I thought I was depressed when I heard about all this federally funded cowboy poetry because I thought it was like you know, you're out in Elko, you ride out of town, uh, and you're caught in this kind of stampeding, uh, stampeding hooves, the dust of like thousands of federally funded cowboy poetry stampeding to get the last hitching post outside creative writing class and live high off the hog on the federally funded cowboy poetry.
But you're saying that it's it's basically just five or six of the same cowboy poets.
Uh, they'll be doing the Hispanic influence and cowboy poetry, Native American influence and cowboy poetry, Al-Qaeda influence on cowboy poetry, and it's just the same half a dozen of them every time.
Please don't miss, you know, get me wrong with this.
There are a lot of real cowboys that have gone down there.
Right.
But all they get to be is support for those pretending to be cowboys.
Oh, that's just so they're just like the window dress.
Well, thank you for your call, Ruby, because you've, Rudy, you've cleared up a lot of this.
He's out there in Idaho.
He's such a genuine cowboy.
He didn't even have a town on the call screen.
He wasn't even identified by town because he's actually out there on a range, unlike these other Weezer, Idaho, and these other federally cowboy, but real cowboys are just down there as window dressing.
They're just the extras.
Well, these federally accredited cowboy poets, it is actually a lot.
It is a kind of metaphor for American decline in a tragic way.
Mark Stein, Inforush, I'm glad Rudy cleared up the cowboy poetry issue because your instincts are right on this.
It's a low overhead business.
There are networks of people who love cowboy poetry.
They're all over the country.
The idea that you don't count as a cowboy poetry, a cowboy poet, until Harry Reids sluiced some federal tax dollars to you and got you down in Elko to do the Flemish Influence on Cowboy Poetry Festival.
The idea that that's the only model for cowboy poetry in America.
That's what government does.
It's like the same thing with healthcare.
If you have government healthcare, it eventually squeezes out non-government health care.
If you have government cowboy poetry, eventually it puts the pressure on non-government cowboy poetry.
So thanks for clearing that up, Rudy.
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Yeeeeha!
Federal Bonanza at the Elko Cowboy Poetry Festival.
We're going to need a $10 trillion hat.
Woo!
Thank you to Rudy.
Thank you to Rudy at Idaho for clearing up the world of cowboy poetry.
Let's go to Valerie on Open Line Friday, Mark Steinen for Rush.
Valerie's in Kansas City.
Great to have you with us, Valerie.
Mark, it's wonderful to talk to you.
On behalf of all your female listeners, I have to tell you, you are the perfect man.
Intelligent, informed, and hilariously funny.
Well, now, women always say they're looking for a sense of humor, but they never actually are, Valerie, believe me.
Hey.
They'll take it.
I don't know.
I'm driving down the road.
I'm trying not to hit anything because this is so funny.
I'm just laughing my head off.
People think I'm insane.
Okay.
Anyway, my comment is regarding the congressional budget cuts and stuff.
Your first caller row talking about, you know, meet in the middle and compromise and look for the election.
I think we ought to go the other direction.
I think if the Senate doesn't like our $60 billion cut, the next one we send is $90 billion.
If you don't like that one, okay, we'll send you our $120 billion one.
Helping the ante until they finally say, oh, it's not going down.
We have to pick one.
Yeah, I think that's right.
I think what people need to do, what effective conservative politicians do is move the center of the debate.
That's what Reagan did.
That's what Thatcher did.
You don't reach across the aisle and meet your opponents halfway.
You widen the aisle so that they, to meet you halfway, they have to come closer to the side of sanity.
And I think you're right.
I think they should not actually be offering to compromise on this.
They should be raising the stakes.
They should be raising the stakes.
That's an absolutely excellent point, Valerie.
Did you and Paul have a $200 billion in cuts or something like that?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, and Paul Ryan and a lot of these other fellas have come up and demonstrated how you can cut this and you can cut that and you get serious, meaningful cuts.
And so every time the Democrats won't agree to small, discretionary, partial cuts, you're saying, hey, okay, that's great.
We're going to slice away even more.
We're going to slice away even more.
Every time, because you demonize everything as extreme, brutal, heartless cuts anyway.
So we might as well make them ever more extreme, brutal, and heartless until you guys get serious about negotiating.
That's a great point, Valerie.
How do we make them do that, Mark?
Well, you know, I think that's where it comes to hanging the tag of extremists around them.
You know, there's nothing caring and compassionate, by the way.
They talk about all these programs.
There's nothing caring and compassionate about giving all this stuff to people with money that is yet to be earned by children that have yet to be born.
It's actually immoral.
It's actually wicked.
You know, Barney Frank, Barney Frank and Chuck Schumer, there's nothing compassionate or caring or progressive or liberal about actually saying we're going to spend money that does not exist, that we have to borrow from the Chinese and then pay back with the hard work of children who have not yet been born.
That's actually wicked and immoral, and we should never stop hanging that around Chuck Schumer's and Barney Frank's neck.
And that's why It's important to change the terms of the debate, and then they will have to play according to those rules, Valerie.
I think that's the most important thing we can do.
Hey, thanks for your call.
Thanks for your call.
And I think that's the great way to look at it, by the way.
If they don't want to discuss $60 billion worth of cuts, we'll come back and talk about $90 billion worth of cuts.
And we're going to keep doing it that way until you guys get serious.
Valerie in Kansas City, Mark Stein in for Rush on the EIB network.
Lots more to come.
Mark Stein, in for rush on the EIB network.
Just before we leave Valerie in Kansas City, we should say a word for Jim Lemke, one of the state senators who turned down accepting federal money to extend unemployment benefits, saying, This is about sending a message to the federal government from the state of Missouri that enough is enough.
The federal government is sending us money they don't have, unquote.
And that's the point.
This is a corruption of federalism.
This is a decayed federalism when states think they can dodge their own fiscal problems by accepting money from a federal government that represents the collectivity of 50 states.
There is no money anywhere in the 50 states for any of this stuff.
This money does not exist.
The only choices are to borrow it from hostile powers or print it.
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