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Fox News reporting that the Lochner family's taken down their kids' shrine to the occult, had a skull.
It was really a weird thing.
The police are banning all media from the street and from his parents' house.
Which understandable, but there have been pictures taken.
You can see it in certain places on the internet.
Pictures of the shrine.
There's a skull back there.
It's really weird occult stuff.
Also, there's a friend of Lochner's who's finally spoken out at Mother Jones, who said that he had a um a real animus toward Gabriel Giffords, that he went to a number of her public appearances, asked her questions, was not satisfied with her answers, thought that she was not respecting him and so forth.
And this is somebody who knew the kid.
People in school where he went were afraid to show up.
They sat next to doors because they feared he'd bring a gun and start wiping everybody out.
This this sheriff out there, Sheriff Dupnik.
You know, this guy he's he's got to be very careful.
If I were him, I wouldn't say another word about this.
The Lochner family has just hired the uh unibomber attorney to defend their son, which everybody has to have an attorney, no big deal there.
But this sheriff is out saying that everybody but the kids responsible for this.
This sheriff is creating a defense for this kid in in which his attorneys can say, well, even law enforcement authorities here in Pima County are blaming talk radio and Fox News and Sarah Palin.
Well, where's the evidence?
Well, there's no evidence.
He's in law enforcement.
I'll tell you what.
I'm just I'm wildly speculating here.
But this kid sounds like he was well known as an unstable, dangerous element in the neighborhood and its school and so forth around town.
If this kid, if if there are any reports in this sheriff's office, like if if if people have phoned in um uh made made phone calls, hey, we're worried about this kid, he's running around threatening here if the kid, if this kid's runner, if he if he has if he's made death threats to anybody, if there's a file in this sheriff's office about this guy's behavior.
If there is, then the onus is going to be on this sheriff and the rest of the liberal safety net.
Where is all the stuff in place to stop this?
Where is we spend trillions of dollars on a safety net designed to help just this kind of deranged person, and to make sure they don't pose a threat to anybody in their immediate orbit.
Where was local law enforcement?
It might well be that this sheriff is out trying to dump on everybody else to absolve himself in his own office.
Who knows?
But if if I were the sheriff, I would I'm very careful here because he's constructing defense scenarios for this uh for the kid and the legal team that uh that uh might not might not bode well.
And he's admitting, he admitted to Megan Kennellon Fox yesterday afternoon.
He's got no evidence for what he's saying.
And they asked him, you want to back down for Oh no, no, I'm not a back now.
Everybody knows uh political discourse, too victoryolic.
Uh, we've got to get back to people getting along.
Wants to try to tell her, but he's nonpartisan.
Just uh just typical.
Washington Post headline after shootings.
Obama must find not only right words, but right time to say them.
That means they're busy with the teleprompter, even as we speak and the optics.
In the aftermath of the Arizona shootings, President Obama canceled his travel plans, called for a national moment of silence, which brought some media to tears this morning.
Uh by the way, there was a presidential moment of silence steps of the Capitol.
Members of Congress and their staff gathered.
Moment of silence.
And uh couple members of the media were so moved by the nothingness that they cried.
At how well Obama did silence.
I'm not making it up.
The media started crying at how Effective Obama was at moments of silence.
After an event so inexplicable, it's not inexplicable.
It is very explicable.
It's not inexplicable.
By the way, who is writing this?
Ann Cornblunt.
And I thought you guys had the answer.
I thought it was Sarah Palin.
I thought it was the Tea Party.
Fox News, me.
Now it's inexplicable.
After an event so inexplicable and at the same time so politically polarizing.
Politically polarizing.
Why's it who politicized this, Miss Cornblut?
You did.
Do you expect people who have nothing to do with this, who are accused of inspiring and to sit around and turn themselves in?
What do you expect?
Liberals and conservatives assuming their assigned battle stations over whether guns and partisan rhetoric are to blame.
No, that's not even correct what's going on here either.
What larger message amongst all of this should the president send?
As John Dickerson of Slate notes, it'd be difficult for some Americans to see Obama as anything other than a Democrat.
A partisan, in other words, if he delivered a speech on the importance of civility, although there may be powerful reasons for him to try, he was, after all, the candidate who tapped into a collective hunger to end partisan rancor, and who confronted the seemingly thornier issue of race.
Can we say he failed at both?
And many other things he failed at.
The question writes, Miss Cornblute is whether this is the moment that calls for such a speech.
Well, according to Mark Penn and others, it is the moment.
This is the moment the Democrats have been waiting for.
Go for it.
This is the time to bring the country together for the Democrats again.
That's what this event's all about, isn't it?
It's what Mark Penn was saying last November.
It's what the Democrats wrung their hands over after 9-11.
Aw, damn it, why couldn't this happen when Clinton was president?
Why does Bush get this chance at greatness?
These are sick, sick people.
And now they're out there trying to fantasize over how Obama can do this and how he should do it, what he should do, when he should do it.
In order to make it a winner for the Democrats.
As of last week, Obama seemed to just be turning a corner politically.
So here's a story.
Proving exactly one of my points in the previous hour.
Here's a story about the attempted murder of an Arizona Congresswoman, successful murder of a federal judge, the wounding of others others died here, and a story in all this about the political opportunity it presents Obama and the Democrats.
Is that not sick?
Right there from state-controlled Washington Post.
As of last week, Obama seemed to be turning a corner politically, but it's hard to imagine the White House hunkering down and doing nothing else in the wake of the Tucson rampage in the first hours after the shootings before many details were known.
Obama spoke to the nation from the state dining room to herald Gifford's strength and to deplore the violence.
The president might also decide to add the shootings to the themes woven into the State of the Union address he is scheduled to give on January 25th.
Advisors are weighing that in the options of a separate speech.
Political calculations.
Not to qual the country, not to calm the country down, not to reassure the no.
How can Obama turn this into his own political winner?
That I submit is sick.
Audio sound bites.
Let's continue.
We're up to number 16.
Dick Durbin, Sunday morning on CNN.
Was asked by Candy Crowley, when did you hear about this incident?
What do you make of it?
We We live in a world of violent images and violent words.
But those of us in public life and the journalists who cover us should be thoughtful in response to this and try to bring down the rhetoric, which I'm afraid has become pervasive in our discussion of political issues.
The phrase, don't retreat reload, putting Uh crosshairs on congressional districts as targets.
These sorts of things I think invite the kind of toxic rhetoric that can lead unstable people to believe this is an acceptable response.
No evidence.
No evidence.
This guy's been targeting Gabriel Giffords just before anybody ever heard of Sarah Palin.
There's no evidence this guy ever saw her lame website with these lame crosshairs, which by the way have been a part of political campaign theater for I don't know how long.
Let's go back, shall we?
Uh let's see.
Dick, well, no, one more Dick Durbin on Sunday morning on CNN.
She says, Senator Durbin, when you talk about putting those that you want to defeat in crosshairs sort of graphically, you know, on the internet, you're talking about Sarah Palin here, and I guess the undertow, uh certainly it's not an undertow on the internet, but the undertow with politicians now speaking publicly as well.
The Republicans of the Tea Party had Sarah Palin have gone way too far in their rhetoric.
It's been violent rhetoric, and therefore this sort of thing happens.
Are you making that direct connection?
We have an obligation, those of us in public life and those who cover us to say this is beyond the bounds.
It may be constitutionally permissible, but it shouldn't be acceptable rhetoric.
We shouldn't invite it on the radio talk shows or the TV, at least without comment.
We ought to say that just goes too far.
You mean like this on the floor of the U.S. Senate.
We hear so many loud and angry voices in America.
My mistake, man, is it grab number 18, grab number 18.
I forgot to tell I told Mike to stop at 17.
I got it off by one.
This is what Senator Durbin said on the floor of the Senate, June 10th of 2005.
If I read this to you and didn't tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have happened by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime, Paul Potter others that had no concern for human beings.
Sadly, that's not the case.
This was the action of Americans in treatment of their own prisoners.
So that's Senator Durbin talking about American military personnel on the floor of the Senate.
All right.
Nazis, Soviets, their gulags, some mad regime, Pol Potter others.
No concern for human beings.
Nevertheless, sees fit to lecture us about inflamed unacceptable beyond the bounds rhetoric.
Back in just a moment.
And we're back.
Rush Limbaugh.
Half my brain tied behind my back.
to make it fair.
To the phones we go, we'll start in Sparta, New Jersey.
Mark, great to see you and have you on the program, sir.
Thank you, Mr. Limbaugh.
First thing I say what an honor it is to speak with you.
Thank you very much, sir.
When I sat in on my first class at the E.I. Institute over 23 years ago, uh, I didn't realize how much I'd learned starting that.
And I happened to catch this sheriff talking.
And I gotta tell you, uh my first reaction when he first started into it was stunned.
I I I thought, no, clearly, he must have gone down a road he didn't mean to go down.
But then when he went on it over and over it again, and then watching the rest of the press um talk uh and harp on it, I I got so angry, and I thought, what a sad day.
I mean, what a sad thing for these people to make political and they didn't even let a day go by.
Oh no, and they're not now.
Newsweek now has a piece out on uh how Obama can turn this into a political win.
Jonathan Older.
It was so different than when the Oklahoma bombing happens that it it's so night and day, and I just I could not wait till Monday at 12.05 when you first hit the airway.
I I gotta tell you, and I was talking to two of my associates in the office, um, and they they both at 12 o'clock were going to tune into your station because we were all just chopping the bit, and we all felt, thank God there's somebody out there speaking for us because something like this happens, you just feel so helpless, and you just feel so angry, and you just want to say, hey, this is not us.
This is not us.
And there you are helping us through this.
And it's just it's so maddening and frustrating.
Well, thank you very much.
I really appreciate that, Mark.
Look, I have a uh uh a piece here.
And this uh let's see.
It was uh Politico.
Politico has a long story.
Let me read excerpts.
One veteran Democrat operative who blames overheated rhetoric for the shooting, said President Obama should carefully but forcefully do what Bill Clinton did.
They need to deftly pin this on the Tea Party, has said the Democrat, just like the Clinton White House deftly pinned the Oklahoma City bombing on the militia and the anti-government people.
That was after they tried to pin it on me.
And the way that went, and we've got sound bites of that coming up, plus the sheriff sit tight.
They went out there and they Clinton spoke of the angry voices on the radio.
At the time there was only one.
And we called them on it, and we demanded that they explain who they were talking about, and if they were talking about me to take it back, retract it and apologize.
And they said, Oh, no, no, no, we're talking about the Michigan militia.
Shortwave radio.
As though everybody had a short wave radio in their house and was listening to the Michigan militia and getting their marching orders from the Michigan militia.
So here in the Politico, hey, run a story, Democrat operative deftly pin this on the Tea Partiers.
Another Democrat strategist said the similarity is that Tucson and Oklahoma City both take place in the climate of bitter and virulent rhetoric against Democrat and government.
The Democrats said the time had come to insist that Republicans stand up when, for example, a figure such as Glenn Beck says something incendiary.
What what do uh we have in common?
Oklahoma City bombing and this event in Arizona.
In both instances, the Democrats lost Congress.
In both instances, the Democrats had lost the House of Representatives in the months preceding the event.
And so, what are we to take?
When Democrats lose elections, and twice when they've lost the House, silly, senseless crimes take place.
All of a sudden they're political in nature, and we need to deftly pin them on Tea Partiers.
Just like Clinton deftly pinned Oklahoma City on the militia and anti-government people.
And the last paragraph of the politico piece.
At the same time, Clinton political advisors privately embraced a ghoulish reality.
Privately embraced.
The tragedy had been good for the president's standing.
Oklahoma City had been good for the president.
from Bill Clinton.
Dick Morris wrote the president a memo shortly after the bombing about how to maximize the advantage.
A. Temporary gain.
B more permanent gain, improvements in character, personality attributes, remedies weakness, and competence, ineffectiveness found in recent polls.
C. Permanent possible gain sets up extremist issue versus Republicans.
When the Republicans had nothing to do with Oklahoma City, Republicans had nothing to do with this.
This is a deranged constituent.
Now now we're learning who didn't like this Congresswoman.
Who went to her personal appearances, who asked her questions, who was unsatisfied?
So you see, it really is sick.
It really is depraved.
Sad tragedies where people die are seen first as moments of political opportunity for Democrats.
And they hustle.
What is it, Rob Emanuel said?
Never let a crisis go to waste.
Quickly, audio sunbite number five, the sheriff, Clarence Dupnik.
Pima County, Arizona.
Megan Kelly talked to him on Fox yesterday.
Sheriff, why?
I feel silly asking the question.
Who can explain the mind of somebody like this?
Was there something about Giffords that set the shooter off?
There are a whole lot of people in this country that are very angry at the politics of people like Gabrielle.
There was a lot of vitriolic statements made night and day on radio and TV about her support of health care, about her support of some of the other things.
And some of the vitriol got a lot of people agitated.
You took the words out of my mouth.
You're talking about irrational behavior here, and there's no way that I know of that you can rationalize irrational behavior.
Alright, so you just heard him blame me and talk radio and all of a sudden.
Megan Kelly said, Do you have any evidence, Sheriff?
I don't have that information yet.
The investigation is in its very initial phases.
But my belief, and I've been watching uh what's been going on in this country for the last 75 years, and I've been a police officer for over 50 years.
There's no doubt in my mind that when a number of people night and day try to inflame the public that there's going to be some consequences from doing that, and I think it's irresponsible to do that.
Sounds like you're being very honest that that's just your speculation, and that's not anything that's fact-based at this point.
That's my opinion, period.
No facts.
They got a random.
Our problem where work areas.
You got a man on the law and say, I don't have any evidence, I don't have any proof.
There's no facts, of course not.
I'm a Democrat.
I'm nonpartisan.
I'm a Democrat.
What do I need facts?
I don't need evidence.
We all know what's going on here.
That's what he wants everybody to believe.
That's irresponsible to boot.
Has anybody found any evidence what this Luckner guy listened to on the radio?
Has anybody found any evidence he listened to talk radio?
No.
Has anybody found any evidence that he watched Fox News?
No.
Has anybody found any evidence that he read Sarah Palin's Facebook?
And if he did, what of it?
Uh the guy listened to heavy metal music.
That's what he was into.
Heavy metal.
And some of the uh anarchical stuff that you find in heavy metal and the devil worship or the you know weird occult religious stuff that you find on on heavy metal.
Now, see if this doesn't jog your memory.
Over the course of the 23 years that I have been doing this program, there have been several occasions where conservatives have appeared before congressional committees.
And these people, and I think one of them, once I'm the wife of James Baker and the wife of Tipper of Al Gore.
Yes, that's right.
Susan Baker and Tipper Gore joined forces to try to get all violence on television taken off.
On the theory that violence was not good for our culture, that all the violence on television, all of the violence in our music was coarsening our culture.
Did the left agree?
They did not.
They poo-pooed the notion.
Hollywood, the TV and movie industry mobilized.
And got right in the face of all of those who wanted to have warnings and do other things to limit the amount of violence in television in movies.
And they hee-hawed, and they poo-pooed the notion that violence in movies or on television could anyway be said, had a causal relationship with violence in real life.
That violence in movies, come on, it's just a television show.
Come on!
It's just a movie!
There were people that wanted to try to say, Columbine was the result of the Matrix movies, if you'll recall, and then, And the Hollywood established, which you all know as a bunch of liberals.
You can't make that association.
That's silly.
That's stupid.
These are two deranged kids.
Now.
But now they are so upset and so concerned that some kid might see a target symbol on a website from a year ago and be moved to kill.
So we've got to get rid of rhetoric.
We have to get rid of conservative speech.
We have to silence Fox News.
We have to silence talk radio.
We have to silence conservatism.
But violence on television.
All I'm pointing out here is that these people are nothing but pure political partisans and hypocrites.
And they are embarrassing.
Watching mass murder in movies, Saw One through Saul Five, Nightmare on Elm Street 10.
All these things that young kids flock to.
Oh no, no.
That doesn't that have violent vile stuff in hip hop or rap, you know, no, that's not a problem.
That would never affect anybody.
Come on, that's just entertainment.
Only conservative speech can incite violence, they say.
That's what they're asking people to believe, and I'm sorry.
The American people are way ahead of them now.
The silly notion.
That conservative speech that this guy never even heard, that websites he never visited.
This guy's too busy building occult altars, listening to heavy metal.
This guy zonked out on dope most of his life.
This guy is so into marijuana he wants it to become the new currency of the United States.
We're dealing with a genuinely unfortunately insane individual.
And everybody around him knew it.
Who did anything about it?
Nobody.
And now that this kid's finally acted, we've got to get conservatives off the air.
It's laughable.
Truly laughable.
One more of the sheriff Clarence Dupnik with uh Meghan Kelly yesterday afternoon on Fox.
She finally said, I know you ran for office.
I'm sure some of our viewers are asking themselves why you are putting a political spin on this.
They may be asking you, Sheriff, you're just not focused on the facts here.
You don't have any evidence.
I grew up in a country that was totally different from the country that we have today.
We didn't have this kind of nonsense going on.
And it used to be that politicians from different parties could sit down, forget about their ideology, and work on the country's problems.
We don't see that happening today.
As a matter of fact, we see just the opposite.
We see one party trying to block the attempts of another party to make this a better country.
There you have it.
That's a sheriff, the Pima County Sheriff, upset that one party is trying to block the attempts of another party to make this a better country.
In other words, one party wants to make this a worse country.
Now we know who he's talking about here.
This guy wants us to believe he's nonpartisan.
This guy is an anti-conservative, anti-republican.
He's no different than the media.
He has taken the occasion of this, a law enforcement officer to politicize it to advance his own political agenda, which he claims he doesn't even have.
He's that pure.
Like I say, this guy better dial it back because he's creating a defense for this guy that the uh crafty team of lawyers that are going to be assembling here will be able to use.
Back to the phones to Renano Beach, California.
Michael, glad you waited.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hi.
Glad to be here, Russell.
Hope you're doing well today.
First I'd say this is a terrible and sad event.
It's it's totally it's just terrible and very gut-wrenching and definitely one worthy of a national moment of silence.
But my question is, why didn't the president have a national moment of silence for the 13 people killed and 13 wounded at Fort Hood incident?
Because we weren't supposed to we weren't supposed to rush to judgment then.
That we were supposed to remain calm and and uh well you know the answer to the question.
The the the the political benefit in that for the president.
Yeah, but I I'd be curious why didn't somebody ask the president, hey, what what what makes you you know what's the criteria for choosing uh moments of silence for people?
Because he's afraid of a backlash in the Fort Hood shooter case.
Right.
Well, it's amazing too how they they they went the media went out of the way to make sure they they didn't link Major Hassan, who was riding Anmar Allawaki or whatever his name is.
Uh they made sure, oh no, he's just a single guy, and now the media's going out of their way to tie him to the Tea Party, to the Republicans, to the to the radio stations.
It's just it's just unbelievable.
Exactly.
See, this is my point, folks.
People aren't buying this stuff anymore.
They used to be able to get away with this.
They used to be able to convince Michael they were right.
No more.
It isn't it isn't it isn't going to work uh anymore.
Just a single guy working by himself.
Um, no, there was never, never, never.
They wanted to scrub all evidence this guy had in the association with outside influences that were anti-American.
Why?
Well, because that's you know, too many people wondered whether Barack Obama had, you know, where where did his uh sympathies lie?
So people's instincts are right on the money.
These events now they're looked at, people see.
Okay, Democrats are gonna try to politicize this to advance it for themselves.
Obama's not afraid of a backlash against conservatives.
Anything he can do to further that with a moment of silence or whatever, he'll do that.
He would welcome a backlash against conservatives, and if he can participate in something like a moment of silence that might help that, his advisors say, hey, you know what?
This is your Oklahoma City.
Hey, this is your 9-11, hey, and we got the added benefit that Sarah Palin made this guy do it.
We made a good connect.
You go out there, moment of silence, like, yeah, you'll be happy to do that.
Plain as day.
Everybody can see it.
Brian and Tucson, nice to have you, sir.
Hello.
Rush, thank you, sir, for taking my phone call, Mr. Limbaugh.
It is an honor and a privilege to speak with you, sir.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate that.
The reason for my phone call, Mr. Limbaugh, is I am listening to the show.
I'm not a big listener, uh, but I am a staunch conservative, as many and many of my clients and my friends here in Tucson know.
But I am getting sick to my stomach at the way the liberal media is portraying Tucson and portraying the Tea Party activists out here and how they are causing damage to the way we are out here.
We are a community of just under a million people.
There's divert it's a diversified melting pot.
Sure, we have our problems just like any other city uh city out here in the U.S. But what this certain individual did was something that he did on his own accord without any help from anybody.
You know, I will tell you this, though, is that the the house that he has this this little cult, the the statue of skulls in, is not at his mother's house.
His mother had no idea that this was going on because he didn't live with her.
He lived in another air in another place and had this going on.
Now, this is only with what I'm getting and getting from the local scene here uh from people that around in this area.
Well, I'm hearing conflicting reports, and Fox News even said a reporter out there, the neighbor let him in.
The police have it cordoned off, but a neighbor let Fox News and their cameras in and try to get a picture of the uh the altar.
But the reporter for Fox said it's been taken down.
Uh there are reports about the uh young man's parents.
Um I've just seen one.
Neighbor said their loaners didn't talk to anybody.
If they did see anybody, they ran back into the house.
They didn't seem to have any friends or any of that.
Uh frankly, I don't care where the altar was.
Uh he had one.
It's an indication of uh of his you know mental uh disposition.
Any rate, uh, you're upset that uh this is happening uh to Tucson.
Well, welcome to the drive-by media.
They blew into town on Saturday.
Their cameras and microphones are shooting everything up, and by the middle of the week they'll be gone.
For the most part, there'll be some stragglers.
And they'll be on down the road heading to the next place to shake up and royal.
And moving on to uh gun control.
That's where this will next go.
And we'll be back.
Sit tight.
By the way, what is uh the Sheriff Dupnik?
Who is he to be telling anybody how to run their lives?
Look at what a stellar job he is doing, protecting the citizens of Pima County from illegal aliens and from drug dealers.
Where was the, if this guy was so concerned about the Tea Party, and he was so concerned about the political discourse, so concerned about all these things, where was security for this Congresswoman's meeting on Saturday.
It is this sheriff, the Pima County Sheriff Dupnik, who is calling Arizona a Mecca for hate and bigotry.
Uh, which is like that other Arizona Rezep uh representative who was trashing Arizona and calling for a boycott.
And this is the left.
This is the American left today.
If anybody is coursening our politics, it's them.
If anybody is roiling normalcy.
If it's anybody who just won't shut up and leave people alone and let them live their lives, it's the American left.
If it's anybody who just won't leave us alone, they have to constantly be tinkering with what we eat, what we smoke, what we drive, where we drive, what we go, what we say, what we can't say, just back off.
And again, I want to stress.
Any time any conservative group has popped up and been critical and worried about the violence in movies and television shows, the very same people blaming conservative rhetoric for all of this that happened Saturday and the 9-11 well Oklahoma City.
Same people.
No, no, no, no, no.
Violence in movies, television shows.
No, no.
Rap music?
No, no, that's not a factor.
We can't ban works of art like that.
You're crazy.
So they're hypocrites, in addition to everything else.
Here's Bill Clinton.
Let's go to the audio sound bites, April 24th, 1995, Minneapolis.
Clinton speaking to the American Association of Community Colleges shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing.
We hear so many loud and angry voices in America today, whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible, and the rest of us all torn up and upset with each other.
They spread hate.
They leave the impression that, by their very words, that violence is acceptable.
You ought to see, I'm sure you are now seeing the reports of some things that are regularly said over the airwaves in America today.
It is time we all stood up and spoke against that kind of reckless speech and behavior.
Right on, right on, right on.
And they all knew he was talking about me.
And they all thought it was great.
And then they said, no, we're talking about the Michigan militia.
What is hate speech in America today?
What is hate speech?
Hate speech is that speech which disagrees with liberalism.
Hate speech is that speech which disagrees with the policies of the Democrat Party.
That's how they define hate speech.
Here's Clinton, April 16th, 2010, in Washington, the Center for American Progress.
There was this rising movement in the early 90s that was basically not just a carefully orchestrated plot by people of extreme right-wing views, but one that fell into fertile soil because there were so many people for whom the world no longer made sense.
They wanted a simple, clear explanation of what was an inherently complex, mixed picture, full of challenges that require not only changes in public policy, but personal conduct and imagination About the world we were living in.
So demonizing the government and people that work for it sort of fit that.
And there were a lot of people who were in the business back then of saying that the biggest threat to our liberty and the cause of our economic problems was the federal government itself.
And Clinton went on and added this.
When I became president, it's hard to remember this.
There were only 50 sites on the World Wide Web.
Among those who first saw its potential and made use of it were those who used the internet to do all kinds of interesting things, including share information on how to make bombs.
We didn't have blog sites back then, so the instrument of carrying this forward were basically the white ring radio talk show hosts.
They understood that emotion was more powerful than reason.
They got much bigger listenership and more advertisers and more commercial success if they kept people in the white heat.
For 99% of them, it was just that.
Turn on the radio, listen to somebody say something you agree with, vent your anger.
So there you have it.
It's a common refrain for the Democrats.
They never lose.
They're never wrong.
And whenever these things happen, it's a political opportunity to advance themselves, whatever the nature of the disaster.
It's always the fault of what their opponents say.
One of this kid's friends is on television saying he didn't he didn't like political discussions.
He'd rather talk philosophy.
He didn't like political discussions.
Right.
A kid didn't like political discussions, was inspired to commit murder because of conservative rhetoric.