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April 28, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 28, 2009, Tuesday, Hour #2
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I am your host, L. Rushbow, America's real anchor man, a truth detector and the doctor of democracy meeting and surpassing all audience expectations on a daily basis.
Arlen Spector, six weeks ago said he was not going to leave the Republican Party.
We need a Republican Party because there's a one-party rule in Washington.
We need Northeastern Republicans.
We need all this.
Today he walked out of his orifice in a Senate building and said he's announced that he's changing a Democrat Party and the assembled drive-by reporters.
Cheered.
The drive-by reporters cheered and applauded President Obama has called Senator Spector, so we're thrilled to have you.
Obama said I'm thrilled to be here, or Spector's I'm thrilled to be here.
The truth of this is in Senator Spector's statement.
The Republican Party has it, he came became a Republican during the big tent era of Reagan, which is a party has moved just too far to the right, become dominated by the right wing.
And that's why he's leaving.
It's just the exact opposite.
The right wing has gone away that the Republican conservative movement is being shut out of the Republican Party.
The Republican Party is more like Arlan Spector than it has ever been.
If you want to know the truth about it.
The truth is, polls show he's getting skunked in the Republican primary by his opponent there, Challenger Pat Toomey.
And the first obligation of every politician is to get re-elected.
And they're going to get re-elected.
Hey, folks, I got a quick question for you.
A very formative experience in the life of my grandparents and parents.
And I remember it too.
I was maybe five or six years ago, I think it was 1956.
I might have the date wrong by two or three years.
But the then Soviet leader, Nikita Khrushchev, went to the United Nations, took off a shoe, started pounding his shoe, and said, We will bury you.
And we will bury your children.
Well, my grandparents' generation took that very seriously.
I had to.
But as I think back on it, what Khrushchev was actually saying was that the communists will bury you.
We are eventually going to take you over.
My question is somebody helped me out on this.
Did he give a date?
Everybody assumes that Khrushchev was going to do it during his tenure.
And of course, it didn't happen during his tenure.
But I know the communists, I mean, they don't have four-year increments like we have with presidents and administrations.
I don't think Khrushchev gave a date.
Something to ponder.
This was only a matter of time.
A member of the Mayersk, Alabama.
The ship that was hijacked by the Somali merchant marine organizers, has sued the owner and another company, accusing them of knowingly put sailors in danger.
Richard Hicks, there's a picture of Richard Hicks here.
It's an AP story.
He looks very much like the Reverend Jackson.
Richard Hicks alleges in the lawsuit that the owner Maersk Line Limited and Waterman Steamship Corporation, which provided the crew, ignored requests to improve safety measures for vessels sailing along the merchant marine organizer coast.
Hicks asked the two companies, they pay at least $75,000 in damages, saying he doesn't know if he will ever work on a ship again.
My family not looking, he was the cook, by the way, is the ship's cook.
My family not looking forward to me going back out to sea, but I'm not sure if I'm going back.
I'm still nervous.
Leary, I might find something else to do.
He's worked for 32 years as a seaman.
We think the company should be more concerned about the personnel on their ships than the profits the companies make, said Terry Bryant, the attorney for Richard Hicks.
Now, this is wonder if this is the Mr. Yellow Page's attorney, regardless.
Uh Mr. Mr. Bryant, you are wrong, because without profits there are no workers.
Plain and simple.
But so it's only a matter of time before uh before this happened.
And once this happened, maybe the Somali merchant reenorganizer in custody can join the lawsuit, a class action.
And we'll see.
Um we'll see how the Obama administration handled that.
Speaking of Obama, here is he went back to FBI today.
This was a replay of his trip to the CIA.
They grabbed the secretarial pool again, just like they did at the CIA, put him in the lobby out there, and this giant big, oh, yeah, we love you, President Obama.
And here's a portion of his remarks.
Living our values means that we must hold ourselves to higher standards than our enemies.
We face a long struggle against a determined adversary.
We know that Al Qaeda is not constrained by a constitution or by allegiance to anything other than a hateful ideology and a determination to kill as many innocents as possible.
But what makes the United States of America so special is precisely the fact that we are willing to uphold our values and our ideals, not just when it's easy, but when it's hard.
So what he basically again saying, look, I kind of envy Al Qaeda.
They're not constrained by a constitution like I am.
But don't worry, I'm working on getting rid of that constitution or changing it so that it's it's not such a burden on me.
I mean, guys like Obama look at the Constitution as a burden.
He looks at all it looks at Al Qaeda and sort of wistfully, gee, these guys aren't constrained by a constitution.
But I continue to be uh profoundly offended with this notion that we sacrifice our values when we engage in acts to protect the country.
You know, when you get when you get right down to it, this this whole notion of we're torturing here and torturing there, I you know, we are.
The United States of America throughout our history has been a decent country.
We are a decent people.
And this notion, well, you we can't become our enemies in the process of fighting.
We've done that many times.
We have, depending on the severity and the risk that we face, you know, we are a decent people, and we do not compromise our decency when taking steps to defend and protect our country and the Constitution.
And the idea that we do profoundly offends me.
Bugs me greatly.
So we got to tie two hands behind our back.
Anytime we face ruthless, as he describes them, ideologues who are hateful and killers.
We've got a two hands behind the back.
One is uh is not enough.
And if we don't put two hands behind our back, we're somehow betraying our values.
What values?
I would like for him to enumerate them.
I want to know what values he's talking about that we hold on to while we defend and protect the country.
I mean, it's easy to run out there and spew this notion.
Well, we gotta hold on to our values.
What values?
Which ones are you talking about?
Because frankly, his values are not the same as mine.
When it comes to this country, here's President Obama, this is this morning, FBI headquarters, uh, talking about the uh the uh photo up with Air Force One and the and the Statue of Liberty.
They had to update the photo file.
It put I know airlines do that.
People manufacture airplanes and and run airlines, get pictures of their product uh over scenic areas and so forth.
But when the hell you can't go buy a ticket on Air Force One.
I mean, what what's have they never heard of Photoshop?
You know, you get a picture of Air Force One, you get a picture of the Statue of Liberty, and you photoshop it.
Total disregard for the people on the ground in New York, President Obama said it was a mistake, as was uh as was stated.
Uh it was something uh we found out uh about uh along with all of you.
And uh it will not happen again.
That's just miraculous.
Just to me, he didn't know.
He's the only one who can fly on this airplane.
He nobody can put the wheels in motion to get Air Force One off the ground.
Other than Barack Obama.
If they're gonna do a flight like this, he has to be told, because he has to also know he can't travel that day on that airplane.
Now, if he's just gonna take a jaunt, you know, up to the Waldorf Hysteria or something, get on a 757, whatever plane he gets on is Air Force One.
But to get away, I know.
Uh, we're not this'll never happen again.
I well I I didn't know.
If George W. Bush were president and this would happen, we wouldn't know the name of the schlub that they're dumping all over here, uh, that they're claiming is uh responsible for this, and this poor Schlubbe to go out there and apologize, fall on the sword.
It gets even better.
This is yesterday, Washington, a press conference, Chuck U Schumer.
Uh, unidentified reporters says, what's the FAA's reason for not warning the public?
The FAA is sort of like a Sphinx.
They mess up everything and they don't tell you why.
The last uh head of the FAA was a political appointee, a hack who messed the place up to a fairly well we're looking.
There is not a new appointment, a new administrator yet, but we're looking for a much, much better one.
This is up to the FAA, and I put the blame on the FAA, not the NYPD.
Oh, you put it on the Bush is what he's doing, is blaming Bush.
But he better coordinate this with the White House because the White House is blaming somebody in their office.
Let me let me find this guy, too, by the way, because sit here and talk about this.
He's got a name, and he's uh he was involved in that Indy Mac bank out in uh in in California.
Folks is coming up here.
Well, I don't want to waste time finding.
I should have put it at the top of the stack, but I didn't.
Umderone or some such thing.
Damn it.
Caldera, caldera, caldera.
That's right.
Calderon's the Mexican president who's uh probably got pig flu.
Calderon.
No, caldera, caldera.
This guy was involved, even Peter principled.
In other words, he's got no experience heading up the White House military office that he's heading up.
But this guy did it.
They arranged it.
The White House did this.
The FAA didn't do this.
And the idea not to tell anybody about it, is definitely Obama administration secret service.
Look at one sense I can understand it.
You don't say Air Force One's gonna be flying at a thousand feet over Manhattan, because then you might you might lure people who get surfaced to air missiles or want to take a shot at it.
But you know, 30 minutes before it happens, warn people.
Fifteen minutes before, warn people that they didn't even think to do it.
And now Chuck Yu Schumer wants to dump on the uh on the FAA about this.
Here's the mayor of New York City.
Um he's furious too.
He's not as mad at these people as he is mad at the people who eat salt, but he's still mad.
I'm uh annoyed, furious is a better word that uh uh I wasn't told it did have the normal language of saying that this is sensitive information, should be distributed on need-to-no basis, that they did not plan to have any publicity about it, which I think is uh ridiculous and just poor judgment uh why the Defense Department wanted to do a photo op right around uh the site of the World Trade Center catastrophe defies imagination.
Wanted a photo op out at the Statue of Liberty over Ellis Island is where they wanted to do the photo op, but because of you know flight pattern, and they were a thousand or fifteen hundred feet.
Uh again, he's mad.
There's not as mad as he gets at people who eat salt, but he's still mad there.
Now, here's Janet Napolitano, uh, or is it Reno?
The Janet Reno of this administration.
She was on the Today Show today, and the question, how would you explain how the government could have sanctioned a low-flying plane over Lower Manhattan, which of course is still has the memory of 9-11.
My understanding is the FAA sanctioned that, but uh, I share that concern.
I don't know how that happened.
Uh, and we want to get to the bottom of that.
Um, you know, mistakes were made, mistakes shouldn't be repeated.
Are you embarrassed that the government made this mistake, did not realize the panic this would cause in lower Manhattan?
Well, I don't think it was uh the right thing to do, and it certainly uh wasn't intended as such, but again, uh we're looking into that right now.
What exactly happened here?
Nobody knows how it happened.
This is Air Force One.
There is the Secret Service.
There is every defense agency, the Department of Defense, the FBI, everybody knows about this.
The FAA has to know about I'll guess guess who else has to know about this?
Air traffic control in New York.
If you're going to have a 747 fly on the route that thing flew yesterday, you're going to have to tell other aircraft, you're going to have to re-route them on their arrival and departures out of LaGuardia and Newark and JFK.
And Teterborough, which is where the private jets go out of.
You're gonna a lot of people knew about that.
And even after it's up there.
Okay, it's up there for 10 minutes, there's a panic, announce it.
But what's just hilarious, Obama didn't know.
Napolitano didn't know she's Homeland Security.
Do you think the Department of Homeland Security didn't?
Do I know where my airplane is all the time?
Damn straight I do.
What kind of question is that?
My airplane, yeah, but his two fly at the same time.
If if his airplane is like mine, if I'm not on mine, it doesn't fly.
Unless I specifically send it somewhere, taking somebody or picking somebody up.
I know where it is.
Even last Friday when I was burning fuel to celebrate Earth Day.
I send it out to LA to pick up some friends.
I get hourly reports where that airplane is.
I know where it is.
There's a lot of people in this inspiration had to know what was going.
The idea that they don't is is just it is preposterous.
And dumping this on the FAA because a Bush hack, as Schumer says it, ran the place.
Here's Gibbs.
I mean, this is the best one.
This is yesterday at the White House, Gibbs doing the press briefing, and he had an exchange here with uh Chuck Todd of NBC and Bill Plant, CBS.
Chuck Todd said, You guys feel you owe folks in New York City uh an apology.
I mean, the airplane looks like Air Force, it was Air Force One Chuck.
Uh two fighter jets.
There seems to be a lot of panic up there.
I would contact the White House.
I I'd I'd White House Military.
Hold on a second.
Stop the tape and recue it.
You are the White House.
He's the press secretary at the briefing room in the White House, which is in the West Wing, is telling the press to contact the White House.
I would contact the White House.
I I'd I'd White House military won't tell us anything.
Then let me go discuss with the White House military.
I don't uh I have seen some news reports, but uh I don't know.
That's I have no information on this what I saw.
The way this works, I'm just saying appearance wise, it's odd that you guys don't have a response.
I mean, this is the president's aircraft or what looks like.
I I was uh working on other things.
I I you might be surprised to know I don't know of every movement of Air Force One or what happens to it, but uh I will certainly talk to the military office.
You certainly as hell know the days you're not gonna be on it, and you know the days you are.
This that's it's boy, I'd say this is buck passing like I I've rarely ever seen it.
I mean, folks, this plane doesn't go anywhere.
These two 747s do not go anywhere without Barack Obama knowing about it or being on it, because when they're gone, he can't take one.
He cannot use one.
He's got to know it's not available.
I'm surprised Gibbs didn't say, well, we're looking into this now.
We think that right-wing extremists who are returning from the war have taken the airplane up.
We'll let you know as soon as we find out.
It's really hard to believe Obama here is saying, we found out about the plane flying up in New York at the same time.
We did.
The guy the White House military office director is Luis Caldera.
That's the guy's name.
He is we.
He is White House staff.
His office is in the White House.
And the White House military office is a fairly high ranking office in the White House staff.
He is part of Obama's we.
He's the guy that planned it.
He's the guy that set it up, but he can't do it on his own.
He's got to get clearance from all kinds of people to take that airplane up there.
You don't just call Andrews Air Force Base and say, Hi, I'm Caldera, White House Military.
Get that plane up there about 10 o'clock on Monday morning, photo ops, a couple passes, thousand, fifteen hundred feet, gonna have an F sixteen with you, and get your ass back down.
It doesn't work that way.
You know what it's like in the bureaucracy getting it and moving something that big?
There's Obama.
We found out about it when you did.
This guy, Caldera is part of Obama's we with a Capital W and a Capital E. I mean, my God, if Obama is gonna can Rick Wagner for botching GM, Obama ought to fire himself.
Or at least Caldera.
I mean, this is it's just it's just beyond the realm of believability.
I can't believe this.
The drive-by is actually discussing how come so many more cases of swine flu in Mexico than here.
How many more how come so many more deaths in Mexico?
Did they really not know this?
Well, just hang in or be tough, folks.
I will explain it in a few minutes.
First off, one more Bob Gibbs subbite than back to the phones.
We we've decided to put together a montage here of the uh this is how he was sold to us when this administration was immaculated.
Smithest, smartest, the brightest.
I mean, this guy, he is the most eloquent that's the best press secretary anybody's ever had.
This is a montage of Robert Gibbs answering reporters' questions.
I I don't know um how many briefings he ended up getting.
Um I will double check on this.
Uh I'd I'd have to go look at the information.
I don't know.
I have no information on this.
I I don't know if I I'd go back and check my notes.
I've got no information on that.
I have not uh talked to anybody about that.
And I will check on it.
Let me check.
Let me check.
I said five minutes ago that I would try to find out.
I haven't forgotten.
I will certainly check.
Again, I will check individually on your question.
I will ask while I check on the other question.
I guess I my ears work fine.
I will check on the questions.
Uh and I can I can check.
I I I don't know.
Uh I have not seen I will check.
I I honestly don't know.
Yeah, I gotta check with the White House.
Um I gotta check on the White House, uh, find out why Air Force One was up there.
All right, Stephen Colville, Utah.
You're up next on the phones.
Great to have you here.
Thank you for waiting, sir.
Hello.
Well, Rush, your accuracy rates uh going up again.
Um I'm a former Secret Service officer, and without going into specifics, uh the idea that Obama didn't know about this plane being up is just laughable.
Um obviously one of the planes that uh can be used and designated as Air Force One is uh unavailable.
There are all sorts of contingency plans in place for if the president need to be evacuated from DC, dirty bomb, uh biological weapons, nuclear attack, everything.
There's contingency plans for each and every uh possibility that can arise, and that one of the planes is unavailable to think that there was no plan and that there was no knowledge that that was unavailable is incredible.
Absolutely incredible.
Well, it's it's not believable.
It's it's it's not possible.
Your secret service, I didn't know you guys are allowed to talk after service, so I guess that's why you can't give specifics.
I will not go into specific contingency plans, but just that there are plans.
Well, but it makes total sense.
Okay, it makes total sense.
President of the United States is the most at-risk individual in the world, and he's the most open.
His airplane's gonna be flying up the Statue of Liberty uh up and up in uh New York for whatever length of time it's gonna be out of service.
People have to have contingency plans, as you say, on a daily basis to evacuate them in case there's any kind of an attack.
Meaning he has to be aware.
He has to be told this.
Absolutely.
Uh there are so many plans from what different locations.
Um, obviously, when he goes out to speak and Obama travels quite a bit, as we've all seen, um, plans for these specific locations, you know, closest hospitals, blood typing, blood matching, um emergency evacuation plans, if the weather's bad, how it's gonna be.
I mean, it never ends.
The planning never ends, and to say, hey, we we were caught off guard, we didn't know that one of the two planes that we typically use is unavailable.
I mean, come on.
Wasn't even that.
Unbelievable.
He said we found out when you did.
Correct.
But the White House military office guy, Louis Caldera, is we.
I mean, Lewis Caldera is in the White House.
The White House military office is white is part of Obama's staff.
Correct.
Um, well, I appreciate the the Steve, that I'm I'm glad that you have called and backed me up on this.
That is, it makes it makes total sense.
But here's here's the thing about this.
How is it?
I ask this question, ladies and gentlemen.
How is it that Barack Obama's own staff, in this case the White House Military Office, is not part of the we in the administration.
But when Navy SEALs rescue a captain thousands of miles away, Obama is the main member of the we that carries out the rescue.
We ordered this, we had standing orders, we did this 3,000 miles away.
We knew what was going on, whatever it was.
Well, we we just found out about this same time you did.
We're you know sitting there watching the news.
We see, my God, there's my airplane flying around up in Stature of Liberty.
I didn't know anything.
I'm gonna get to the bottom of it, though.
Just a daily insult to um everybody's intelligence.
Here's uh Torin.
I hope I'm pronouncing that right.
Austin, Texas.
Hello.
Yeah, this is Torrin.
How are you doing, Russ?
Very well, sir.
Thank you.
Uh my point is going back to the GM story.
Yes.
Um, I'd like to I've always thought this, but it's more reiterated now, that I think that uh it's almost un American to buy American.
Uh buying an American car supporting a union organization that is out at one time not only to destroy the business it was working for, but now it's out to destroy the fabric of the country in which it lives.
So buying Americans is an American.
I've had a lot of people send me email notes that have sentiments similar to yours.
This I'm never buying an American car again.
Well, not it's hard to say.
I work at a GM dealership.
I work at a GM dealership.
I sell cars, so it's just kind of uh it's kind of hard.
Well, you know, you're gonna have some, you know, you you're gonna have some help.
I wouldn't give up quitting the job just yet.
You know, with the union uh owning 39% of General Motors, it you're you're gonna have some help.
You know, when people come in, want to test drive a car and drive it, and if they don't buy it, you know, you're gonna have some guy walking around threatening the potential buyers' kneecaps.
I think it might be an easier sale uh I think I think what's gonna have to happen is not only is he gonna have to do what he does with GMs, he's gonna have to find a way to hurt the other car manufacturers so that people are more prone to go to GM as opposed to buying cars that they actually want to buy.
We'll see.
You know, I'm reading all this happening last night, and I'm I'm chit-chatting with people, and last night was one of the nights that just made me laugh.
Don't and please don't misunderstand.
This it is infuriating.
Um he says it's un-American.
Um it used to be as GM goes, so goes America.
I guess it's true.
I guess it's in the toilet, I guess.
I guess it's true.
It's like, folks, did you have you been researching this for me?
Did Khrushchev give a date?
When he said that they were gonna bury us.
This is Mike in Baltimore.
Nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Russ, how are you?
Good.
Mega mega dittoes.
Thank you, sir.
Uh, I've got a quick comment.
I'm just curious, because I lived in Manhattan during the 9-11.
And I remember the panic.
But for that plane to be flying over just recent, and for there to be a big panic, I'm curious as to why.
I mean, the Democrats, for the longest time, were telling us that Bush and Cheney were using terrorism as a tool to get elected.
And the Democrats were using that, or Republicans using that as a tool to get elected, because terrorism, it was just, you know, please don't use that to get elected.
Well, a plane flies low, and man, do the memories come back vividly.
It maybe it's not a tool.
Maybe it still exists that it there is a threat in the minds of the people of America.
Well, I think that's exactly right.
That's an excellent point, by the way, particularly when talking about uh people in Manhattan and down near ground zero.
I mean, do you realize that people were even fleeing out of the Goldman Sachs building?
Right.
Goldman Sachs building is down there.
A lot of financial buildings are, a lot of financial orifices.
I mean, look at the video.
People were running for their lives down there.
And yeah, then try to tell me, oh, terrorism was just something Bush used as a tool.
Terrorism isn't really real.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It brings it right back home, right to the people who actually feared for their lives for a minute.
All right.
Look at I'm sorry, folks, but I have to ask this question.
Thanks for the call out there, Mike.
I have to ask this question.
Because I'm not an idiot.
You send a Boeing 747, which is Air Force One, and either one or two, I'm not sure.
I only saw pictures of one, but there might have been two F-16s, the escort jets.
Presumably that's where the pictures were being taken.
You know, the Air Force jet getting the view of Air Force One right in front of Statue of Liberty and so forth.
But you don't need to do that to get a picture of Air Force One near the Statue of Liberty.
And furthermore, do they not have a picture of this 747 near the Statue of Liberty?
They've probably got pictures of this Air Force One in Grand Canyon, uh, you know, flying underneath the Golden Gate Bri well, not underneath, but I mean they've they probably got, but why do you need them?
Now wait, wait a second.
No, no, stick with me on this sternly, it's nothing to do with it being Obama's plane.
It's not as though you have to have publicity shots for Air Force One in order to sell tickets for people to ride it.
Because no matter what people do, they cannot get on Air Force One.
So what does it really matter?
Where is this PR photo going to be used?
And to what purpose?
You could do the same thing with Photoshop.
You really could.
You can accomplish the same thing with Photoshop.
Now you stop and think of this.
We're all sitting here and except the people in Lower Manhattan, you know, people are laughing about this.
But you stop and think for a minute.
Do you really believe that everybody involved had no idea that this would cause a panic?
Do you really believe that everybody involved thought, big deal, we're gonna go up there and get a photo op in front of the statue?
Nobody needs to know.
It just do we really believe that there's not one person in the chain of command that caused this event yesterday that didn't realize that a Boeing 747 at a thousand feet over ground zero was just going to be looked up at, oh, hey, me, Mabel, look at that.
Well, it's a little off course, and I wonder what what presidents do it is.
Is that really the reaction people just gonna have?
There's more to this than we know.
I have no idea what I'm just telling you the excuses that are coming out of the Obama say, we found out when you did, dumping it on this uh Caldera guy, the White House military office, uh dumping it at the uh FAA, the mayor of New York not being told about it, but his second or third in command was, and he didn't pass it on to the mayor, NYPD knew.
Uh none of this, none of the explanations for what took place yesterday make any sense to me.
Including the need for a photo up.
Now, as I said earlier, I understand if you are going to do this, that you don't publicize it way in advance, because the plane's gonna be flying low and thus is a target.
But you don't have to wait until 45 minutes after all this hubbub has been created to explain what's going on.
You could do it five minutes after the process starts.
But they didn't.
They this panic, the idea that that that this was not gonna happen, that nobody figured something like this panic would result.
Something I don't buy.
So there really little of this that makes common sense.
There's just too much we don't know.
I know the the carbon footprint and the money uh being wasted uh and all that.
Sure, it's an extravagance and so forth, but you know, beyond beyond all that, there are just some aspects to this that literally make no sense.
And we have the Secret Service guy call.
I'm t folks, trust me on this.
The number of people who have to know when Air Force One's gonna be launched is a lot.
You do not do this in secret, it's just for something like this.
Now, if you're gonna take Air Force One to Baghdad on Thanksgiving with Bush, yeah, they they can they can do something, but even that had to be planned in the greatest, greatest detail.
And everybody involved in it knew what had to happen.
And if there was one break in the link, if the word got out, they were not gonna go.
Because the plane would become a target.
I gotta run.
We'll be back here in just a second.
Michael Steele, uh the re uh uh chairman of Republican National Committee has come out and said, hey, the only reason Spectre left is he was gonna lose.
Not bad, Mr. Chairman.
Not bad, not bad.
It's getting uh get in, get it, and get out.
One of my favorite philosophies.
And also Rush, was President Obama on the plane.
Could it be that do we know that he wasn't on it?
Could it be that he wanted the photo op with himself?
Folks.
He wasn't on the airplane.
He was in the FBI talking to the Secretarial pool as though the Secretarial pool was a bunch of agents, and he was delivering a lecture on American values, like abortion.
Well, he didn't talk about abortion.
He said, We're gonna defend American values.
We're we're not we're not gonna waterboard Khalid Jake Mohabin, we're gonna murder a million babies a year.
We're gonna we're gonna defend American value.
He wasn't on the airplane, even if he was.
Now, I don't know how many of you have been on a 747.
The windows are not that big.
Uh I've said all there is to say about it from my perspective.
I'm just saying none of this makes any sense.
The explanation, what they said they were doing up there, uh Obama saying he didn't know, found out about it watching television.
Gibbs saying call the White House when he's in the White House.
Here's uh Joanne in Mobile, Alabama.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi, Rox.
It's great to talk to you.
Listen, I am thrilled about Spectre joining his leftist people.
Because what this means is, according to my calculations, that now I do believe it.
Jeff Sessions, who is true conservative, knows the law, follows the law.
I think he is now going to be ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
And this is great because we need to get our conservatives in the leadership positions in the Senate and the House.
I think you may be right.
I I think I think you may be right.
Uh I love Senator Sessions too.
I love Senator Sessions as though I were an Alabama.
Uh-huh.
He's uh he's he's he's tripping.
This and this guy, he's been shafted by this very committee, not the same members.
He was up for federal judge with Reagan, they turned him down.
But he is a really, really good guy.
He's uh solid citizens and so forth.
But I think by the way here, Joanne has a point too, and in in when talking about Spectre as the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee, of course, that's that is most important to Specter, and I think that he held on, he wanted to be chairman of that committee again, and uh now he realizes that uh he's up against uh, you know, uh the pens, Senator Leakey, uh Leahy.
I and I it's he's not he wasn't gonna be chairman uh anytime soon.
Plus the polling data in the Pennsylvania primary is in losing right now to his challenger uh Pat Toomey, so there are a lot of things.
But if this is again uh a little bit surprised at Steele, because uh I've I fully expected Republican Party to be A little upset about this.
They count numbers.
I heard who was it, Cornyn or Kyle or somebody the other day say, I can't get anything done in this Senate without Arnold Specter.
I need standing up for Specter's re-nomination, reelection.
You know, these people hang together.
So I expected Republicans sort of, eh, no, we've lost a number.
We've lost a number.
They don't care about ideology.
Uh conservatives here applauding this.
Steele came out and said, even see left because he's gonna lose.
So in some people's minds, Steele has stepped in it again.
Not here.
Quick question here, folks.
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