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Oct. 5, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 5, 2006, Thursday, Hour #3
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Where's the official program observer?
I don't know if we can start without the program observer observing the program.
Greetings to you, thrill seekers, music lovers, conversationalists, all across the fruited plane.
I am Rush Limbaugh, America's real anchorman, serving humanity simply by showing up here on the one and only Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
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Two things in my mind today about all this, particularly at this time.
The question, I think the only relevant question rests, we know what Foley did, and Foley has resigned, and he's gone wherever, rehab or what have you.
So the problem as it relates to this particular incident has been resolved.
It has been corrected.
So the first question I have is, how did these instant messages find their way into the public domain?
Now, when this story first popped last Friday and throughout the weekend, I will be honest with you, and I will share with you my, and I did on Monday, but my original suspicions were not to doubt the truth or veracity of the actions of Congressman Foley, but it's October.
It's an election season.
I know Democrats like every square inch of my glorious naked body, not just the back of my hand.
And I'm going to be honest with you folks.
The first question that popped into my mind was, who saves instant messages like this?
Who saves them?
Especially of this nature.
These are embarrassing.
These are things that you would hope nobody would ever see.
Why save them?
So I began answering the question.
Why save it?
Well, maybe plot.
Maybe these pages were set up.
Maybe these pages were threatened.
I don't think anything is out of the realm of possibility when it comes to dirty tricks as practiced by Democrats, by liberals.
Nothing.
I don't think anything is out of bounds.
So I asked myself, and I sent emails to friends.
I said, why would a kid save these messages?
52 of them or whatever.
Why?
Three years ago, two years, why save these things?
Was the page a Republican or Democrat-appointed page?
Didn't know any of this when I was asking these questions.
Did the page, was the page approached by somebody who said, look, we want you to get involved here, titillate this guy, draw him out.
We know this guy's got these proclivities and we want to get a record of this.
Why would a kid do that?
I asked myself.
Well, kid could be easily intimidated by another member of Congress as well, or whoever else.
Kid could also be an activist, and activists happen at very young ages.
Maybe the kid was threatened.
Maybe the kid was paid.
These are the questions that went through my mind.
I'm just telling you, not that I didn't doubt what Foley had done.
That didn't cross my mind.
But I could not eliminate from the equation potential Democrat involvement.
It's October.
And they do this.
So then today, last night, when I finally learned the identity of the page, Jordan Edmund, who is in Oklahoma working as an assistant campaign manager for Ernest Isthook, a former member of Congress, Republican, now running for governor there, hmm.
Okay, so their page must be a Republican.
So that sort of canceled out the whole notion that the Democrats might have been behind it, partially.
But then I said, no, maybe not.
Who knows what this page has done in his life?
I mean, who knows?
Anybody's blackmailable, especially young kids.
I'm just telling you what was in my mind.
These are the things swirling through the deep, dark crevices of my fertile brain.
Then I read today that the page has gone out and hired a lawyer.
Stephen Jones, who represented McVeigh.
Now, it doesn't matter who the lawyer is.
The fact he's McVeigh's lawyer is not relevant to me.
But why get a lawyer?
If you are totally innocent, and if you are the victim, why get a lawyer?
It's okay, maybe you got to prepare for Foley to say later on, this is all made up.
This never happened.
Why get a lawyer?
Maybe you want to negotiate book and movie deals.
Why get a lawyer?
Maybe, maybe the page, my original theory, maybe the page is out there engaged in some kind of chicanery.
Maybe the page, you know, kids play pranks too.
Maybe the page, maybe they were laughing at Foley in the page room.
Maybe that Foley's making these advances and maybe, you know, let's egg this guy on.
I've, you know, I've done my share of pranks.
So it's for that reason that I ask, why in the world, how in the world did these instant messages find their way into the public domain after such a long time?
Now, the radar website, it's a sort of a gossip page out there, ran a piece last night, the bogus blog behind Foley's Fall.
ABC News brought Foley's boy chasing to national attention, but it wasn't the first website to flog the story.
The dubious honor belongs to stopsexpredators.com, a pseudo-vigilante blog filled with plagiarized, hastily assembled posts, which no one seems to have heard of or visited or linked to before last week, and whose operator has a suspiciously savvy grasp of the news cycle.
In other words, a blog whose sole reason for existing seems to have been to get the Foley ball rolling.
If its time date stamps are to be trusted, like most free blog where Blogger allows its users to backdate posts, the pervert outing site was set up on July 28th as a clearinghouse for the public to report sex predators and as a resource for concerned citizens.
One early post headlined The Sickening Six, naming and shaming the kinds of sick people who hunt minors for their own sick purposes, is basically an amalgam of plagiarized entries from Crime Library, Wikipedia, and answers.com.
After running just six posts, just six posts over the summer, the site picked up steam on September 21st when its author wrote, quote, the blog has been noticed.
Some shocking emails have been received, four exclamation points, and posted four emails purportedly from interns outraged by the heretofore unmentioned Foley and his penchant for teenage boys.
Of course, if these emails are legit, it means the interns somehow stumbled upon this blog despite the fact that it had not yet been linked to by any other sites and was virtually indetectable to Google, which ranks sites according to the number of incoming links.
One intern on this site wrote, I came to Washington because I care about the future of America.
I wanted to be around good and decent men like President Bush.
Instead, I feel like a piece of meat.
And the worst part of it for me is there appear to be plenty of my fellow interns who don't mind Foley's particular path to power, unquote.
Three days later, the blogger posted the now infamous emails from Congressman Foley to 16-year-old Paige, claiming they'd been sent in by a reader, despite the fact that they appeared to be scans of faxed printouts.
Persons unknown then ceded the link to various political sites, including Wonket, which promptly dismissed them as fakes.
ABC, of course, took them more seriously.
Whoever promoted the story on the Daily Cause website did so only 12 minutes after the fateful post went live at 11.06 a.m.
So an obscure website that you couldn't even find by searching Google because it had only six hits opens in July, asks for emails from people on sexual predators over the internet, ends up with Foley emails.
ABC looks at them while others think they're fakes.
ABC, ooh, we're onto something.
And bam, the ball gets rolling.
The bogus blog behind Foley's fall.
So I ask, how did these instant messages get out there?
How did they find their way into the public domain?
This is an election season.
The Democrats are on a tear trying to get Haster to resign.
Speaking of Hastert, when he does this long-awaited, breathlessly awaited press conference, he's going to announce that he has hired Louis Free, the former FBI director, to conduct an internal probe of the whole House Page program.
Well, I hope he gets to the bottom of this, and I hope they're able to finger all the perps out there on this, folks.
But I'm telling you, this is something that is, it's far more, about far more than what we are being led to believe by the drive-by media who's doing their usual drive-by hit job on this, taking this as an occasion to tar and feather the entire Republican Party and leadership, gay bashing, equating gay behavior with pedophilia.
That's what they have done, I think accidentally, but they can be called on it.
So I ask again, how did these emails reach the public domain?
And why has the page hired a lawyer?
Back in just a second.
You'll never see it.
You will never hear it.
And you will not read about it.
But Democrats are despondent today for this reason.
The government can continue to use its warrantless domestic wiretap program.
This is a Reuters story, and it is factually wrong.
It is not a domestic wiretap program.
This is journalistic malpractice.
It is a foreign surveillance program.
But regardless, the government can continue to use its warrantless foreign surveillance wiretap program pending the Justice Department's appeal of a federal judge.
This is his idiot in Michigan.
Her ruling outlawing the program, according to the, this is the Sixth Circuit, I believe, in Cincinnati.
The ruling overturned District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor's decision last week to deny a lengthy stay in the case, which is expected to end up with the Supreme Court.
In August, Anna Diggs-Taylor ruled that the National Security Agency's five-year-old surveillance program violates the civil rights of Americans.
The ACLU filed a motion, blah, But the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati, three to zip, said you can go ahead and continue the program.
And they also, if you read these things, well, experts who read these things will say that the court gave an indication that they're going to reverse the judge on full appeal anyway, when it gets there.
So Democrats despondent today about this.
You will never hear it.
You will never see it.
You will never read it because the sewer, that is their list of October surprises, has backed up on them.
And FoleyGate is now occupying virtually everything.
Newport News, Virginia, this is Keith.
Welcome.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to the program.
Hey, Rush, how you doing today?
Fine, sir.
Hey, just something I was thinking about.
There's a lot of programs out there that can be installed on computers called keyloggers.
And I know about them because I use them on my computer to monitor what my kids do on the internet.
And the more sophisticated ones, like I have, they capture both sides of the instant message conversation.
They capture every keystroke that's typed on the computer it's installed on, and then this one also captures the incoming signal from the other computer.
And the way mine's set up is I can either go to the computer and check it manually, and it runs completely in stealth mode, so nobody even knows it's there unless you're, I guess, really smart with computers, or I can have it email a report set up to any periodicity that I want to.
So when I'm thinking about why this kid might need a lawyer, who knows, maybe one of these pages installed that program on his computer or somebody else, and in essence, it's almost like illegal wiretapping.
Well, I don't know if you're in.
I guess that could be.
I mean, it's just a thought.
I mean, because I'm like you, why would they need a lawyer?
Yeah, I know.
I don't know.
The illegal wiretapping follows here.
Foley knows he's having the chat with somebody, just like even though he's having a phone call, but would he know it's being recorded?
I mean, it could be.
It absolutely could be.
This is something I had not considered.
I've been thinking more about the prank aspect of this.
And I, let me be honest.
We all know kids, folks.
I mean, we all were kids once.
And many of us as kids thought certain adults were geeks.
We're just odd.
And we loved making fun of them.
Many of them in my life were my teachers.
I would be embarrassed to tell you some of the pranks.
I mean, a bunch of my buddies and I actually stole our shop teacher's cow, just put it in a different field.
We didn't steal it, didn't take it, we just put it in a different pasture.
We would call back in these days, I mean, you could call Sears and order a refrigerator on the phone and had a teacher living up the street, and it was the biggest thrill in the world to just call an order refrigerator and watch Sears deliver it to an unsuspecting teacher and his wife.
And far stranger things than that.
But we always picked out adults that we just thought were odd or weird, and it would be fun to make fun of them.
And I don't think kids today are any different.
You might say, well, a page is not going to think that a member of Congress in the page, they're not going to run the risk of jeopardizing their position as a page by making fun of a congressman.
But you know as well as I do that young kids make fun of gay people.
They make fun of the way they talk.
They make fun of the way some of them walk and so forth.
Who knows what the word around town about Foley was?
Who knows?
I mean, this we all know that you know that young people, gay bash, young people do a lot of stuff.
They don't have the maturity to understand this kind of stuff.
So who knows?
I'm just saying all this stuff's on the table.
Nobody's looking at this side of it.
What we're looking at here is that we have a holier than thou, clean and pure as the wind-driven snow page, being set upon by this creepy pervert via email and instant message.
What if the page is not this kind of, I'm not saying he isn't clean and pure as the wind-driven snow.
Just think there's a whole lot of this that's not even being considered because the political prism through which the drive-by media Democrats are looking at this, and of course the Republicans are scared to death and they're on the heels in defense, and they're looking at it too.
And okay, what's the worst that's going to happen here?
And everybody's looking at that.
In the meantime, and please don't misunderstand me about this.
One of the things that I constantly observe about this, Mark Foley, for whatever else, is a human being.
And that aspect has been totally forgotten and lost.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mark Foley is suicidal right now.
If you stop to try to put yourself in his position, I know it's easy for all of us to say, creep, pervert, deserves it.
Get out of Dodge.
Don't want to ever see your face again, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Man obviously has problems.
And he obviously needs help.
And he obviously needs compassion and support from the people who are closest to him.
Whether he's going to get it or not, I don't know.
Going through something like this alone is something that you can't do.
And yet, all this is covered as though it's just an inanimate object now.
And the words creep and pervert are now automatically associated.
And yet there is, and the same thing about Page, I mean, all these pages involved, they're human beings too, but every participant in this, especially not since the Page's identity is out there, everybody is just having a great old tabloid good time with this without any concern for the humanity of any of the people that are involved.
It would be one thing if Mark Foley were the first and only such person to have engaged in such things.
But we know that's not the case.
Compare the difference in the way Patrick Kennedy was treated.
Patrick Kennedy, we all know, claiming to be going to a vote at 2.30 in the morning, a combination of pills and booze, and runs into a barricade or something.
Cops drive him home.
He announces he's going to rehab.
And we get sympathy stories about how difficult life is for Patrick Kennedy being a Kennedy and meeting up all those expectations.
To me, he's doing a good job of meeting those expectations.
He's driving drunk, although he's done a good job of it.
Four months after rehab, we get stories in the New York Times about the humanity of Congress and how they've all come together, Republicans and Democrats, to embrace a respected member of the Kennedy family, respected member of the House to help him in his journey back to sobriety and in his recovery.
None of that is even on the horizon for Mark Foley or these pages.
But they are human beings involved in this.
Speaking of the liberal sewer backing up into the toilet, get this.
Los Angeles County officials want to know who or what is responsible for the waste fouling the most star-studded stretch of the Southern California coast, Malibu.
Their investigation could lead them into the toilets of the rich and famous there.
Environmentalist wackos and health officials suspect that Malibu homeowners' leaky septic tanks could be allowing what gets flushed down the toilet to flow down the hills into Santa Monica Bay.
To identify which tanks are to blame, authorities intend to use DNA testing, DNA testing, you know what that means.
DNA testing, and if necessary, get warrants to inspect septic tanks, including those of Hollywood celebrities.
Warrants.
They ought to just you know what they ought to do.
Oh, yeah, Haster has arrived at his office and is doing his press conference.
Let's listen a little bit of this.
Our microphones are there.
Republicans dealt with it immediately, and the culprit was gone.
We are now trying to correct the problem.
We've asked the ethics committee to look into this matter, and we asked for criminal investigations to be opened by the Justice Department, the FBI, and the state of Florida.
We have a toll-free number where people can confidently call, and we've reached out to experts around the country to put a system in place to make sure this never happens again.
The tip number is 1-866-384-0481.
They're going to regret that.
We will do everything possible to make the program safe for the kids while they're in our care in Washington, D.C.
And we will make sure that we can be a resource for their parents once they return home.
We are looking for a person of high caliber to advise us on the PAGE program.
I reached out to the Democrat leader and shared with her some of the ideas, and we hope to resolve this soon.
Final point, our children need to be protected, and we're going to do everything we can to protect them.
Take some questions.
Mr. Speaker, you said this morning, your report is saying that people who want to see this thing blow up are ABC News and a lot of Democratic operatives, people funded by George Soros.
Are you maintaining, Mr. Speaker, that this story was fueled by political opponents?
You know, I've, on that point, I only know what I've seen in the press and what I've heard.
There's no ultimate real source of information, but that's what I've read and that's what I've heard in the press.
And so the fact is, we've turned this whole thing over to the FBI for us to try to find out what happened.
And that's what we want to do.
And any member of Congress that is involved in this or any staffer needs to comply, and the results will be there.
Mr. Speaker, will you set the record straight on a couple of things?
Tell us once again, if you will, when you learned that there was more than a minor problem, that this was truly something that had a predatory feel to it.
And secondly, after you've answered that question, if you really did only learn a week or so ago, were you not let down by staff members who seem to have known much more?
And if heads ought to roll, shouldn't some of them come from your own staff, if not you personally?
I first of all learned of this last Friday when we're about to leave Congress for the break to go out and campaign.
And that's the first time that I heard of the explicit language.
When that happened, Republicans acted and the guy's gone.
But the fact is that I don't know who knew what, when.
We know that there are reports of people that knew it and kind of fed it out or leaked it to the press.
You know, that's why we've asked for investigation.
So let me say, that's when we've asked for an investigation to find who that is.
If it's members of my staff or they didn't do the job, we will act appropriately.
If it's somebody else's staff, they ought to act appropriately as well.
Nobody's admitted it to you.
No one on your own staff has acknowledged knowing the seriousness of the problem one, two, or three years ago, and certainly no one told you about it.
No.
And if they didn't, were they characterized, Mr. Speaker?
Were they characterized as a problem?
I didn't hear the rest of your question.
Were they derelict, Mr. Speaker, if they didn't let you know what was going on?
Staff has been you know, if somebody didn't let us know, then there's a problem, and I think the investigation will find that out.
When you fire them, how many emails characterized?
How were they characterized?
Were they just vividly friendly?
And not only as the speaker, but as a former teacher, coach.
Did that not ring any alarms to you?
We were advised in our office and then to the clerk's office and then to the chairman of the page board that there was a Katrina message, period.
We knew of no other emails about we.
That's it.
That's good.
We get the flavor of this.
The bottom line is there's going to be a full-fledged investigation.
I don't know how full-fledged it's going to be.
I hope it's not just a foley in this incident.
As I say, what would be helpful here is if every House member were asked to produce instant messages that they've had with pages.
And let's find out about that.
That's really, if we've got to protect the kids.
And we're going to do everything we can to protect the children.
I mean, we don't do that in this society, but we're going to do that in the House.
We never hear about the children in this country.
We never.
And it's about time we started hearing about the children.
We don't do anything for the children in this country.
It's about time.
I am glad the speaker understands that we must do everything we can to protect the children.
Well, if that's what we're going to do, let's go all the way and let's find out who out there in the house has been IMing or emailing these pages.
And why not go all the way back to, say, 1992?
However far, but go back to Jerry Studs.
Well, that was a problem solved.
Let's move forward since then and see what's happened.
All right, back to the telephones.
Michael Binghamton, New York, welcome to the program.
Well, hey, Rush, it's an honor to speak with you again.
Thank you, sir.
Listen, I wanted to share some comments, and then at the end of the conversation, I'd like to make an observation I've made and hear your comments on it.
But you were speaking about John Kerry's statements about Dick Cheney's daughter.
And I'm a conservative, gay, white Republican from all my life.
And my liberal Democratic partner of almost 20 years now, after that comment was made, will never vote Democrat again because of the feelings that it wasn't that it was the way John Kerry said it and exposed it.
I'll tell you what, we mentioned this in the first hour of the program.
Let's go back and play that.
No, no, hang on here.
I'm not hanging up, Michael.
I'm not doing that.
Stick with me.
I just want to play the comment from Kerry so people know what you're talking about.
This was from October of 2004, presidential debates.
Cut 17 out there, Mike.
And this is John Kerry attempting to out, when a lot of people already knew it, Mary Cheney as a lesbian, Dick Cheney's daughter.
And the reason why he was doing it was to try to send a signal to the fundamental Christian right who live in the back of their pickup trucks while parked in a church parking lot that the vice president of their party had a gay daughter.
We're all God's children, Bob.
And I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was.
She's being who she was born as.
I think if you talk to anybody, it's not choice.
No, it's a planned moment there on the part of John Kerry, who served in Vietnam, could have cited anybody, but he chose the vice president.
So your liberal Democrat partner did not respond well to that.
Well, I think the Democrats fail to realize the compassionate acceptance that even conservative Christian Republicans have for everybody.
They don't hold things against what you do in your life is between you and your maker.
And most people don't go around judging other people by other than the results that they produce, whether it's at work or in recreation or whatever part of life they're addressing at the time.
And the Democrats, for some reason, just failed to see that.
And my partner reacted, you know, just I can't get him to switch party affiliation yet, but he's not voting, Democrat.
Won't even listen to their views anymore.
And a good share of that also comes from your program.
I learned how to point out the flaws in the Democratic playbook about the hypocrites they are.
You know, they'll say or do whatever they can to try and gain short-term advantage.
Really, they don't have the best interest of the American people at heart when they're trying to, you know, what they're doing, especially right now with this Hassert thing.
I don't think they have America's values at heart here.
They're trying to gain short-term advantage for the election.
Do you think they're even concerned about the pages here?
Nope, not at all.
Haven't heard one of them express any condolences to the page himself.
Have you?
Other than to talk about it's unfortunate, this poor victim and so forth and so on.
But when it comes to straightening out the program, there's no talk about that.
All there is talk about us continuing to bump on Foley, who's gone and can't do it anymore.
Well, I find it very hypocritical, the Democratic leadership to hold accountable an entire organization for the failings of one member.
Well, that's their MO.
You know, if you've listened to this program a long time, Michael, you know that their MO is to smear and destroy.
Not to debate and not just to defeat, but it's to smear and destroy.
I'm glad you called.
I appreciate your comment.
I got to take a brief break.
We'll be back and continue right after this timeout.
Well, I'll be darned.
Hang on, I gotta, I just, Brian, your page updated before mine did to see this.
This just hit the Drudge website.
Claim filthy Foley online messages were page prank gone awry.
Hot damn.
Hot.
Do I know these people like every square inch of my glorious naked body or what?
World exclusive, it says, must credit Drudge Report.
According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL instant message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives.
The Drudge Report can reveal developing.
Folks, if you've got this page out there, you probably have a bunch of pages laughing and making fun of Foley and the way he comes on to him and he's gay and so forth.
So they egg him on and so forth.
And somehow, we don't know how.
Oh, if we could only know how.
Somehow, these instant messages, by mistake, by mistake, got into the hands of enemy political operatives.
Ha!
Okay.
Well, let's see now if this changes the dynamic.
Enemy political operatives.
You don't think it's going to change the dynamic, Mr. Snirdley?
Not tonight?
Because of Haster's press conference, the template's already set.
What do you mean they don't want it?
It's out there.
It's out there.
They're going to have a tough time ignoring this.
This is called it's time to rev up the Republican base.
Anyway, Kathy in Kirkwood, Missouri, outside St. Louis.
Welcome to the program.
Hi, Rush.
I didn't plan on calling today, but yesterday afternoon, I was stopped by NBC Nightly News, and they were looking for Republicans just to be able to.
Whoa, Where were you stopped by NBC Nightly News?
In Kirkwood Square.
Kirkwood is a beautiful suburb, very close to the city of St. Louis.
And I was sitting just in front of Sansai, which is a great little Japanese restaurant.
And they were approaching all the people sitting out and walking.
And what they were looking for, they said, were Republicans, and what their comments to the Foley situation, how they thought that would impact the election.
Aha.
And what did you say?
Well, so, okay, so I talked to him, and he first announced, okay, so what's your comment?
And, you know, I am a Republican, and I thought it was pretty optimistic.
I said there's plenty of time before the election if the Republicans aggressively investigate, say, you know, really get into it and tell them what was known and what was not known, that I thought by election time, you know, it wouldn't be an impact.
Then I also said, there's no doubt in my mind that if there was any pedophile within the Republican Party, I don't think Denny Hasser would even let that go.
That's just too much of a political hot potato.
How would you even sleep at night if you knew that was going on?
And let me guess they didn't use you on the NBC Nightly News.
Well, it got worse.
I tell he was not happy with that answer.
So then he said, okay, well, let's imagine it this way.
What if the Foley situation is a big black cloud over the election?
Do you then think it would hurt the election outcome?
Well, I pretty much gave him the same answer because I wasn't going to change my opinion based on his question change.
He still didn't like it.
So then he said, okay, well, let's look at it this way.
What if you were a moderate or you weren't even thinking of voting?
Would it then hurt your outcome as a Republican, the Republicans?
And, you know, I just kept giving the same answer because I said, well, I'm not a moderate.
This is how I view it's going to come out, you know, at the end.
Kathy, let me tell you what you experienced.
And this happens constantly.
They go out.
This is what I've told everybody.
They go out.
The story is written or produced before they go put it together.
And they keep talking to people to get what they want.
And then they use them as though it's random.
What you just experienced is a nightly news report that is the equivalent of polling.
You are so right.
And you just predicted exactly what happened.
Called all the family.
Hey, could be on the news tonight.
They all turned on.
And it was, you know, one gentleman in one of our historical restaurants to really make this look like the conservative little area of the midwest.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Well, let me tell you what happened to you, Kathy.
The drive-by media just drove by you.
They drove by.
They stopped.
They threw their little ammo at you.
They were hoping you'd respond as though you were in Fallujah.
And you responded as though you're in Kirkwood.
And there wasn't enough blood.
There weren't enough dead bodies laid around, so they drove on by until they got what they wanted.
Appreciate that call.
Terrific.
If you're just joining us, the Drudge Report has it up there.
Filthy Foley online messages, page prank gone awry.
According to two people close to the page, Jordan Edmund, the message changes were just a prank, An online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives.
Cutting-edge societal evolution here, folks.
By the way, one related story before we go: deliberate masturbation during the month of Ramadan renders a fast invalid, according to the Iranian supreme leader, Saeed Ali Khomeini.
One of the mullahs has ruled.
So, if you're a Muslim, you cannot masturbate during Ramadan.
You can disqualify your fast, and you also have to drink water standing up.
Pretty close to what I thought.
The page was goading Foley, and he circulated these things to other people in the Page program, and one of them let some Democrat political operative have it.
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