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Oct. 5, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 5, 2006, Thursday, Hour #2
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Well, here we go.
Rush Limbaugh back in action.
Back in the prestigious Attila the Hun Chair.
Here at the Distinguished Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Thrilled to have you along with us today.
Telephone number if you want to be on the program is 800-282-2882 and the email address rush at EIBnet.com.
Here is what we know for sure.
Ladies and gentlemen, we know that Mark Foley resigned and that he did not have sex with an intern.
That's where the facts stand today.
We also know that Bill Clinton did not resign and he did have sex with an intern.
Not just sex.
He had phone sex with an intern 15 different times.
The media, drive-by media, breathlessly awaiting a press conference by Speaker of the House, Denny Hastert.
Looks like, I can't tell.
He's going to be from his house.
Oh, so they got the house staked out.
They're going to follow his caravan.
He's going to go to his local office in Illinois in Chicago.
And, okay, that's why the camera's at the house.
So now they're staking out Hastert's house.
Why aren't they staking out the rehab center where Foley is?
Don't tell me they don't know where that is.
Someday I can tell you about how that works.
But anyway, I hope Hastert doesn't step down.
I hope that's not what this is.
I don't think so, because normally that kind of stuff always leaks.
And if that were the case, the media graphics on TV flash breaking news, stop the presses, what have you, Hastert to resign at press conference.
It doesn't say that.
They just say that he's going to explain his role in the X-rated page scandal.
That's explain his role in the X-rated page scam.
Folks, let me tell you something.
If that's what they think this is, and it's not, if they think this is about an X-rated page scandal, then it is done.
Hastert ought to go out there and call for an investigation for the entire House.
We ought to turn over every congressman's instant messages and emails with the pages and find out just how deep this problem goes.
I haven't heard Nancy Pelosi call for such a thing.
I haven't heard any Democrat call for such a thing.
I haven't heard a Republican call for it either.
That's why I'm calling for it.
If that's what this is really about, why the hell, look at what they got rid of Trent Lott.
Our guys helped swish him away.
They got rid of Tom DeLay.
Our guys helped swish him away.
Now they're going after Hastert.
They got rid of Bob Livingston.
They got rid of Newton.
What is it?
What is served by our guys resigning?
All it does is encourage the Democrats to keep demanding further resignations.
Now let's take a look at where the Liberals are.
I think Liberal sewer here is backing up.
Ladies and gentlemen, there's no question they had a series of October surprises.
They had an October surprise, a dirty political trick, and I'm sure they had one planned for every week in October.
They had so many October surprises they had to start in September with a national intelligence estimate and in a Bob Woodward book and then Foley.
But something happened.
Their sewer backed up on them and has now backed up into their living quarters.
Foley has flushed the NIE surprise.
Foley has flushed any news from Iraq off the front pages.
Foley has flushed every aspect of their campaign off the front pages and off the lead story items in broadcast news.
Foley clogged up the Bob Woodward October surprise.
Poor old Bob, can you imagine Bob Woodward sitting out there wondering, hey, how am I going to sell my book?
How am I going to get back in with the good DC crowd if you can't talk about my book?
And if I can't go on and talk about what is with this Foley stuff.
So their sewer is entirely backed up.
Now, tomorrow is Friday, and I predicted earlier this week that there's another surprise on tap, probably for after 3 o'clock when this program ends, to set the stage for the Sunday shows.
Now, if there is another October surprise that the Clinton War Room has planned for tomorrow, do they drop Foley?
Or does Foley make them drop Friday?
Do they hold off on the surprise that they no doubt have waiting for us tomorrow and keep going with Foley and hope to keep spurting out some of these little drib-drab details from the instant messages that continue to surface?
These instant messages, you know, I've really been looking into this, and I don't use Windows, which is why I've been asking you about this.
I use Mac, and Mac uses a program called iChat that is compatible with AOL.
I know there are a lot of chat services out there.
But people are looking at these chat logs, and I'm hearing all kinds of different things about how AOL and how Windows preserves them.
And apparently, they're not as detailed in their preservation as they're shown on these reproductions.
Dates are there, but not times, or times and not dates.
Something, but we're getting far more information from these instant message logs than are actually kept by the program itself, or so I am told.
And I'm also told, correct me if I'm wrong about this, somebody who knows and who uses Windows and does these and uses AOL, I am told that the logs are saved, but not individual chats.
And you have to tell it you want messages to be saved.
So it's just a continuous rolling log of all your chats, and you just can't go in there and search it by date and find the one you want.
You've got to read through the whole log to find what you want.
And then when you do that, you have to cut and paste it into a word processor program so that it's segregated, shall we say, good liberal word, from the entire log.
Now, this is what Windows people that I trust have been telling me about.
But it seems to be all kinds of different explanations because there's different instant message programs out there that people can use for Windows.
Yahoo has one, and Gmail, Google has one, and who the hell Microsoft has one, I guess, Microsoft Messenger, some such thing.
So I'm not sure I've got all the complete information about this, but it does seem to me that there has to have been some cutting and pasting here.
And once you start doing that, you know how easy it is to change it.
Not suggesting there are forged instant messages here, but the congressman who has resigned, the creepy pervert Foley, who you must refer to obligatorily in that fashion, is not here to say, hey, that never happened.
That wasn't said.
We know that one of the named pages, Jordan Edmund, has gone out and hired a lawyer.
Why?
To handle a book deal?
Movie rights?
What?
What does he need a lawyer for?
The lawyer was asked, why does he need a lawyer?
Stephen Jones, the Timothy McVeigh lawyer, Stephen Jones said, you've read those instant messages.
You know why he needs a lawyer.
Yes, I have read them and I don't know why.
I really don't.
I'm not trying to be provocative or anything here.
I just, I don't quite get it.
So, anyway, the liberal sewer is backing up big day tomorrow.
Do they release the next October surprise or do they use Foley to drop Friday and delay it?
What the left needs now, ladies and gentlemen, is a plumber because their sewer is backing up on them big time, and the stench is already reaching us here at the EIB network.
As I suspected, ladies and gentlemen, Speaker Haster is not going to resign.
Reuters just flashed an appropriate word for this story.
Reuters just flashed that Denny Hastert is going to announce reforms in the House of Representatives.
He is not going to resign.
If he was going to resign, it'd be out there.
These things always leak.
It would be so wonderful if Haster demanded that every member of the House share his IMs in an internal investigation and find out what's been going on in the PAGE program and so forth.
I still, I know you think I'm beating a dead horse here, but the Democrats have not demanded such neither have the Republicans, but this place may be a cesspool.
And the House Bank, the House Post Office, we know that this place just runs on an arrogance that it's difficult to find in other aspects of life.
And it could well be that there's a lot more to be discovered here.
And the Democrats may be taking everybody down that road.
By the way, this group crew that has been involved in the release of these instant messages from the get-go, the committee, what is it, for responsibility and ethics in Washington?
Their executive director is a woman named Melanie Sloan.
And I saw that yesterday.
I've seen that name.
I've seen that name in Democrat circles and so forth.
It turns out that Melanie Sloan worked as a legal counsel to then Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Joe Biden and Minority Counsel to ranking House Judiciary Democrat John Conyers.
The Clinton war room, ladies and gentlemen, is in full speed, at full speed.
Let's go to the phones.
People have been waiting patiently.
Oh, speaking of the phones, I got to do this.
I'm going to have to do this in this hour, and I'm going to do it tomorrow again in the first hour.
We had, if you were not with us the third hour yesterday, we had one of the best calls ever from a young woman in Oklahoma City named Julie.
It has nothing to do with the Foley situation.
It has very little to do with a particular issue going on.
It is just, it is an inspirational telephone call that I want as many people as possible to hear.
So, and I'm going to need, what is it, Mike, about 12 minutes, 13 minutes to play this thing?
12 minutes and 8 seconds.
All right, look, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to play that coming out of the next break at the bottom of the hour.
We'll play, and it'll take up the, yeah, it'll take up almost exactly the whole segment.
Call was in two parts because I held her over at a break, but we'll get rid of that.
It'll come across in just one call.
You have to hear this.
It'll warm your heart.
You get tingles, chills up and down your spine.
Morris in Tucson, Arizona.
We start with you today, sir, and thank you for waiting.
Welcome to the program.
Hi, Rush.
75% dittos from north of the Mexican border.
That's what's on people's minds.
Thank you.
Why 75% Dittos?
You know what Dittos mean?
That we agree with everything you say.
No, it doesn't.
It means that you love the program and you hope it never goes away.
Okay.
It 100% did those.
Thank you very much.
Hey, on to the Foley story.
It's not a non-story rush.
It's a big story.
And I'll tell you what, I don't think that we should drop that until the Democrats apologize to the entire country for something that a lifestyle that they've promoted, that they've defended, and they embrace, Rush.
And for them to smear Foley over a text message is just a national embarrassment.
I know.
It's gay bashing.
It's what I said at the beginning of the program.
The Democrats and the media have, I'm sure, in a very unintentional way, have equated gay behavior with pedophilia.
This whole story was about pedophilia.
Foley's a pedophile.
He's a rank creep pervert.
He's gay.
He's gay.
They say, everybody's known he's gay.
You can try to hide it, but he's gay.
He's gay.
He's gay.
They demand.
It was the Democrats that got this.
The Democrats, not Republicans that blew this white.
He's gay.
He's a pedophile.
Rush, I think that Hassert needs to pull his tail out from between his legs, hold a press conference, get some rank-and-file members behind him, and demand a national apology by the Democrats.
And I don't think we should drop this story until that's done.
Well, I tell you, that may be appropriate at some point, but I do like the whole concept of being on offense.
We'll see when the speaker speaks what we get.
Wolfgang in Miami, you're next.
Welcome to the EIB Network.
Yes, how do you do, Rush?
It's great to talk to the Doctor of Democracy here.
Thank you, sir.
Now, as a long-term conservative, you have seen that, and millions of us have, where the liberal media gets all riled up about virtually nothing.
We know that, according to the liberal media, only liberals are innocent until proven guilty.
Conservatives.
And they're even innocent after that.
Okay.
Conservatives are guilty even when proven innocent.
Conservatives are guilty for being conservatives.
Conservatives are guilty just by being alive and breathing.
And what we're seeing here, this individual, Foley, is gone, unlike what Democrats have done in the past.
Where they just hang on and linger forever.
Now, the economy is awesome.
The war on terror is still key in the minds of Americans.
And we think that it's very important to leave it up to the liberals.
And I am really not too sure that the Republicans are going to lose the Congress.
It looks like they're going to keep the Congress anyways, especially when all this stuff begins to really surface.
You know, it wouldn't surprise me, Wolfgang, at all.
I shared with you the information: Florida 13, Catherine Harris's district, is open.
She's retired or resigned as she's running for the Senate.
And Vern Buchanan is the candidate there, the Republican candidate.
This is right next to Foley's district.
And polling, internal polling in the last two days, shows him picking up ground, gaining ground against the Democrat opponent in that race.
This is right next to Foley's district.
So, you know, I agree with you.
In fact, I have a theory.
A lot of people are calling this the Democrats' reenactment of the Wellstone Memorial, where they used the coffin of Paul Wellstone as a battering ram against Republicans.
You know what was really offensive about the Wellstone Memorial, aside from everything you remember about it, but if you want to know what really shocked people, here is a Wellstone was respected.
Wellstone, he was who he was, and he was not a liberal that hid behind a mask or any camouflage.
knew who he was, you knew where his passions were.
You could debate him openly, and he was not a mean-spirited guy.
He was not one of these wacko-cook extremists.
They might have been in his beliefs, but he was not in his behavior and his rhetoric.
So a bunch of Republicans from the Senate went to that memorial, Trent Lott, and they got booed when they walked in.
Their pictures were shown on the giant video screens that they had erected in there, and they got booed again.
This was a mock funeral.
It was a memorial.
And here were colleagues of Wellstone from the Republican Party showing up to pay their respects, and they got booed and hounded out of the place, in addition to everything else that went on.
So a lot of people are saying, well, this is getting very much close to the Democrats repeating the transgressions that occurred in the Wellstone Memorial.
I think that's probably true.
There may be a grain of truth to that.
But there's also something else that I see happening.
And to explain it, I will go back to my mere moments ago depiction of the Democrat liberal sewer backing up on them.
All these October surprises, they had so many of them, they had to start in September with a national intelligence estimate.
And I had to start with George Allen in September.
And then, of course, we had all the other things again with the Woodward book and you name it.
Foley has come along and has totally obliterated every one of their other scandals.
And it's also taken the issue that they were using as their number one theme to win re-election, Iraq, off of anybody's mind.
Now, is there something that happened in the last number of years that is analogous to this?
There is.
I would like to take you back to 2002.
Actually, I would like to take you back to 2001.
Shortly after 9-11, the Congress authorized a massive resolution granting the president power to do whatever he wanted and needed to do wherever to take out enemies of this country who had been involved in 9-11 or were involved in future threats.
The president felt that was all he needed for the use of force authorization in Iraq.
But the Democrats in the summer, actually, it was September of 2002, so no, we want to debate this again.
We want to debate.
They wanted to go on the record as being tough on terrorists.
They wanted to go on the record and they wanted to have another vote, another debate, so they could go out and campaign on being tough on terrorists.
In the process, what'd they do?
Well, their issues in that campaign were going to be kitchen table issues, back pocket, the economy, and all of that.
And they took their own issue off of the front burner.
And they've done it again here with this Foley business.
They've taken their own issue off the front burner.
And now the sewer's backing up on them.
And they may not be able to get rid of this issue.
And so, ladies and gentlemen, the big question, to me anyway, the big question, how did the Foley instant messages go public?
That's the question.
That's what I want the FBI to tell me.
How did the Foley messages end up going public?
All right, here is that phone call from yesterday in the third hour.
It is Julie from Oklahoma City, and it speaks for itself.
Julie, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, welcome to the EIB Network.
Great to have you with us.
Hello, how are you?
I'm fine.
Thank you.
I just wanted to tell you a funny story.
I've listened to you since 2000.
And in 2004, I decided to go back to college after being out of high school for 10 years.
Much because of what I've heard on your show about how you can do anything.
You should do anything.
You should not be okay with mediocre, et cetera, et cetera.
You're the only one that's ever put that idea in my head.
Is that right?
Your whole life?
It's been, yeah, it's the necklace of life.
But yes, that's correct.
And it was drilled in my head over and over again from listening to your show.
You know, go out and do it.
Just do it.
You know, make something better of yourself.
You have opportunity.
So I went back to school in 2004, and I had a professor who had a master's working on his second master's who was so book smart, you know, thought he knew everything.
And he would bring up arguments in class over the economy, amendments, laws, different things.
And I am telling you what, the only thing I had done since high school was work, and then I started listening to your show.
I could go toe to toe with that guy and argue with him about anything and make him look stupid in front of the class just by listening to your show.
Did he know that he looked stupid or did he give you a problem?
Did he think you were being insolent and disrespectful?
He, no.
He was baffled.
He looked at my profile and he said, now, you've been out of school 10 years.
He said, you won't, this is your first year.
He said, how in the world do you know all this stuff?
And I said, I'm going to be honest.
I said, all I do is listen to Rush.
Oh, no, I knew that was coming.
And then he said.
He said, no.
He said, that's just hate speech.
And I said, no, no, it's not.
And I said, you know what?
I didn't even know how uninformed and smart I was till I had got in this class.
And I said, and realizing everything I've heard from that show, how informed and smart and capable I really am.
And I said, you know, I couldn't believe it.
You know?
And he said, well, doesn't he just talk bad about people?
Doesn't he just make fun of Democrats?
And I said, no, it's actually very educational.
And he said, well, I just can't believe it.
So I said, well, give it a listen sometime.
And he ended up listening, and he doesn't listen every day because of classes, but he ended up listening and said he rather enjoys the show.
I hope he's listening today.
Was your college in Oklahoma City?
Yes, it is.
I couldn't let you go without thanking you from the bottom of my sizable beating heart.
No, thank you for opening up my eyes because really, there was no one else around to do it.
And the only reason I started listening to you was the election of 2000.
I just felt I couldn't believe what I was seeing on ABC, NBC.
And I said, what would Rush Limbaugh have to say about this?
Let's get a different point of view.
And ever since then, I've been listening.
Sounds almost like divine intervention.
Right.
What would Rush do?
Yeah, well, I mean, of all people you can think of, and you hadn't listened before.
No, my sister has listened since you had your TV program.
Aha.
Yeah, she's listened and she's always talked about you.
And I almost felt guilty listening to you, but because I thought, oh, she'll be.
I said, well, my sister would love this.
I said, she would love this, you know?
And I said.
One thing I have to ask you, because this is, you said earlier in your call that nobody in your life had ever spoken to you about the positive aspects of you, the potential that you as an American citizen have, that you can be better than you think you are, you can do more than you think you can.
Nobody ever talked to you that way at any time in your life?
Let me tell you why, because when I was 17 and when I was 18, I had a baby.
So everyone said, well, just go get a job.
Just go pay your bills.
Just make it the best you can.
You know, because I had a baby at a young age, people were thinking, well, you know, you just would be doing good to be making more than that.
Even before that, I just sometimes I make the mistake because I had a very normal childhood.
I had this typical middle-class middle-America upraising, upbringing.
And it was via my whole family that I first, and I didn't put it in these words, but that's where I first became cognizant and aware of what I now call American exceptionalism.
And my dad and some teachers were constantly pushing me to do better than I was doing because they all knew that I could.
But I was not interested in what they wanted me to do well in at the time.
But still, the concept that there's a great land of opportunity out there, and all you have to go to do, all you have to do is go attack it, was not something foreign to me.
It's why I'm one of the few members of my family that left home.
I mean, I left home when I was 20 and struck out on just following my dream.
I've told the story countless thousands of times.
What I'm amazed at is that, and I wonder how common this is, that up until the time you had your baby when you were 17, that the whole concept that there's greatness for you out there, that you are a special person, that you're better than average, that all it takes is a little hard work, that there's far more out there than what you think, was something that never occurred to you or was never taught to you.
Well, no, it was because I wanted to be a police officer.
I wanted to be an FBI agent, and everyone would have said, oh, Julie, you know, you can't do that.
You could never do that.
That's a man's work.
You know, just put that idea out of your head.
And so I would start to think, well, maybe I, you know, maybe I can't.
And that's where really.
See, that's distressing to hear because I think there's probably a lot of that out there in general.
No, you can't do that.
I mean, I've been told that too.
I was not told that by my family.
Right.
But I've been told that by people that fired me.
I've been told that by friends when I told them what I wanted to do.
I mean, we all hear.
It's easy to be negative.
You know, you'll never go to the library and find a book on how to fail because we all do it.
Right.
And it doesn't take any special insight.
But these people that write books on how to succeed and how to think positively make millions because it's something that doesn't occur naturally, apparently, even in this country where I think it ought to be occurring.
But then you look at the political drivel that suffices as news most of the day for most people.
And the country sucks.
It's going to hell in a handbasket.
In fact, there's a shortage of handbaskets because the economy is doing so poorly.
Bush is lying.
People are dying.
It's a constant negative drumbeat that is by the Democratic Party echoed by the media.
So I'm not surprised that that stuff's easy to be caught up in.
But what did your parents do?
What did your dad do?
He was an accountant.
He was an accountant.
Well, that's not hard.
I mean, that's not easy.
That requires a lot of hard work and specific talent.
Maybe it was easy.
He wasn't around, so it was just my mother.
So I guess the idea of her having a daughter who wanted to be a police officer or FBI agent or whatever was just far-fetched.
Just, no, not my daughter, you know.
Don't you want to be a hairdresser, a waitress, a secretary, you know?
And I said, no, I would, you know, this is what I want to do.
And then came into the whole, well, you've got a baby now, so, you know, you're going to do good just to make it.
And I believed that for so many years.
I'm doing good just to make it.
And I thought, wait a minute, I can do way more than that.
Well, you know, it takes all kinds.
Not everybody is going to reach their potential, and not everybody is going to tap their full ambition.
It just doesn't, for a lot of reasons.
Some of them you just mentioned.
And other people will settle.
I mean, you, had you not happened upon this program, probably because what your mother had said enough times, you would have just said, okay, this is my lot in life, and you would have tried to make the most of it and be happy and so forth.
And I think that probably happens more often than not.
But yet somehow you swerved and stumbled into this program.
And now that you've gone back to college 10 years after you got up.
When did you start college again?
2004.
2004.
And this professor of yours, of 2004, I had been on the air 16 years.
And this guy had no clue what actually happened on this program, even though you don't need a secret radio or password to listen to it.
All you got to do is turn on the radio.
And his guy teaching college had no clue.
He just believed it was all hate speech, bashing Democrats every day and so forth.
And you were able to educate him.
How'd that make you feel?
I mean, I'm telling you, it was not until I walked in that class and he would start lecturing on certain things and I could argue with him and I could make him look really dumb that I was like, whoa, you know, I haven't just been listening.
I've been learning.
I mean, it was, I mean, it just made me feel wonderful.
And he was one of those guys that he believes everything he sees on TV.
Well, you know, Dan Rather said it, it must be true.
If the book says it must be true, he never questioned anything.
He was so institutionalized.
Right.
And so this is what the book says.
This is what it is.
He never questioned anything.
And, you know, that's one thing I've got from your program.
Don't just listen.
You've got to question.
Go out, explore, get knowledge.
Right.
Learn to read the stitches on the fastball.
Exactly.
And that's what I've done.
And I just didn't, like I said, I was just amazed that I could go up against a guy who had a master's for crying out loud.
Well, see, that's another thing to learn.
You said at the beginning of the phone call, there are countless book smart people who have lots of education, but it doesn't mean they have a lot of knowledge.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, it was just a little bit surreal, you know, not surreal, but, you know.
Well, what are you studying?
Police science.
Police.
So you're following your original dream.
That's fabulous.
Yes, I am.
Fabulous.
And I am almost there, too.
Terrific.
Well, damn it, I'm proud of you.
Thank you very much.
I mean, that is just awesome.
You held on to the dream for 10 years, and now you're doing it, and you're doing it at the university level.
That's just great.
And I've made the president's list every semester while I've got two kids, while I'm working full-time.
That is just incredible.
See, you are living proof to anybody.
And by the way, see, the great thing here, not only what it's doing for you and the way you feel about yourself and your future, but anybody else who comes in contact with your story, you're going to influence in a positive way.
And so your life experiences are going to transfer to others and you're going to make them better because you're going to make them think it's also possible for them.
This is just terrific.
Well, you gave me the big push that I needed.
Well, I understand that.
I understand.
Somebody had to.
I'm glad we were there when you tuned in at this propitious moment.
You happened to be listening when we weren't bashing Democrats.
Do you have a computer?
Yes, I do.
Are you a subscriber to my website?
No, I'm not.
I'm sorry.
Well, you are now.
I'm going to make a compliment.
Yes, right.
Because you're one of the, you are, you are, you will not believe what all is there.
You think that you're informed and educated now.
Wait till you tap into the resources that are on my website.
And I'm also going to throw in a year subscription of the limbo letter that's the newsletter and give you a couple items from the EIB store that you can pick out.
So, Julie, hang on.
A nice man who will not ask you the name of your kids will be on the phone to tell you.
No, thank you.
You've made our day here.
Well, good.
You've made a big difference to me.
So thank you.
Thank you.
Thanks, Julie.
We also threw in a sleep number bed from Select Comfort of her choice.
And I, at the last minute, decided to throw in a rush pack from Allen Brothers' Steaks in Chicago, the best steaks, bacon, whatever you want you have ever tasted, absteaks.com.
And I got, I think I have had as much feedback email-wise on this phone call as anything else in the last 10 or 20 years, 12 years.
I think the last time this kind of response, and it's close, I mean, it's close, but we did the three days when the white-collar guys had been laid off in the mid-90s, and these are people in their 40s and 50s.
And we did three days of phone calls from them as to how they were handling it, what they were doing.
And it was just as inspirational as Julie's call was yesterday.
People love to hear these kinds of stories.
Oh, yeah, we also took calls from people who bailed out of society because they'd given up as well.
And we tried to reorient them and remind them what country they live in.
You know, they're not in Kazakhstan here.
They're in the United States of America.
But this kind of stuff is just, it's as inspirational as it can be, and it never ever gets old.
I've always believed, it's based on my own life experiences, that the vast majority of people have no clue how good they can be.
They have no clue what they're really capable of because most people are not self-starters, and they don't get that kind of inspiration in the course of growing up.
They hear more negatives than positives.
Anyway, I'm a little long here, but I wanted you to hear that phone call because it truly inspires.
We'll play it in the first hour tomorrow or maybe next week.
Give it some time, but I want the whole audience to hear that at some point.
Be right back, folks.
It's getting ridiculous out there now, ladies and gentlemen.
While you were listening to the call from Julie in Oklahoma City, I was watching Fox.
Martha McCallum has a show that is a roundtable at the end of the show.
And one of the guests on the show is Mark Ginsburg, former Clinton ambassador to Morocco.
And they're talking about Hastert, the former Clinton ambassador to Morocco, talking about Hastert.
And Ginsburg, Ginsburg was questioning whether or not Tom DeLay had a role in the Foley episode.
Now, the next thing you know, somebody's going to posit that Jack Abramoff might have been involved in this somehow.
I mean, since the sewer's backing up, why not throw everything in the toilet?
Can't flush it anyway.
Clinton War Room.
There's only one relevant question.
At this time, at this time, five weeks away from an election, Foley has resigned.
He's gone.
The perp is out, and the victim's name and identity are out there.
The only relevant question is how did these instant messages find their way into the public domain?
That's the relevant question for me anyway, right now.
Here's Janet in Gross Point, Michigan.
Hi, Janet.
Nice to have you with us.
Hi, Rush.
Thank you for taking my call.
You bet.
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And may I just say you're magnificent.
It's been a pleasure listening to you today.
Thank you.
I just wanted to, you opened up regarding Mark Foley.
You opened up the show saying, where's the humanity?
And I think that's so spot on that we shouldn't ignore what you said.
What the Democrats are doing, Lawrence Larry O'Donnell, whatever that fellow's name was, talking about a supposed list of gay representatives, gay politicians, Republicans up on the hill that's going to come out perhaps.
That's you.
You always say that the Democrats go back to their old playbook, and this is an old play.
We first saw it with Paula Jones when that story came out.
The gays, the lavender mob in politics, outed David Brock, the author of the Paula Jones story, to hopefully.
And that sent Brock running for cover to the libs.
Exactly.
That's what there's a lavender mafia.
The Catholic Church had it.
It causes people to look the other way.
Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Don't look over there.
Kind of like how Bill Clinton was running Arkansas.
And then the other thing that you always say the Democrats can't do is they can't talk about faith.
Oh, and on that, the reason the Democrats want to throw out that there's more Republicans that are gay out there is because they want people like me.
You know, me, the bigoted one over here.
Right.
They want you to abandon the party because they want you to be shocked and stunned that there are gay people in the Republican Party.
As though you don't know this.
Janet, it's brilliant.
You reminded me.
I have to talk about this humanity thing I brought up in the first hour.
I'll do that soon.
Thanks much.
Got to go.
Back in just a second.
One thing I just can't get out of my mind.
Why does this kid need a lawyer?
The page.
What if this whole thing's a trick?
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