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June 23, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 23, 2006, Friday, Hour #2
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And welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program.
Uh Roger Hedgecock in here for Rush at uh coming at you from uh San Diego, California in the studios of KOGO Radio on the uh left coast, uh an enjoyable book added to your summer reading list from Congressman J. D. Hayworth, Congressman Hayworth in the fifth Congressional District of Arizona includes Phoenix and Scottsdale and Tempe and lots of other nice places.
Uh his book on illegal immigration is called Whatever It Takes, whatever it takes.
That puts him uh in a different train of thought about immigration than the Bush administration.
J.D. Hayworth joins us on the Rush Show now.
J.D., welcome to the program.
Hey, Roger, it is great to be with you again this time on the golden phone line of the EIV network.
That's right.
That is exactly right.
Listen, your home state, uh, and I I gotta say that I had Joe Arpio on the last time I was here, the famous sheriff from your area.
Uh last time I was doing the Rush Show for Rush, and and uh Joe was just I mean, everybody in the in the country wanted to hire him as their sheriff.
He was just terrific.
But another local uh official out there has got uh on my bad list, uh your governor, Napolitano, who talks a good game about immigration in terms of sending the people down to the border and other things that have gotten the national press.
But I've watched her veto one bill after another.
For instance, uh what was it, just last week to expand Arizona's trespassing law to make it a crime for illegals to be in the state, vetoed that, vetoed uh state sanctions on employers for hiring them.
She's not uh on your side.
Well, the bottom line is uh the governor, you know, we had a situation last year, Roger, where uh I guess back in August, uh I said it is time to put the National Guard on the border.
It is time to put Arizona's Guard on the border.
And the governor sent her minions out to roundly criticize me, but fast forward to this year and her state of the state address, and uh, I guess after consulting the polling and taking a look, she said, hey, we're gonna send the guard to the border.
Well, the legislature stepped in and said, Fine, Governor, here's the money to do it.
And she said, Oh, no, no, we're not gonna do it that way.
Then she said, When the guard goes to the border, it won't be there to militarize the border.
Well, here's a bulletin for the governor and other leaders.
Uh the border has been militarized by the other side, by the incursions from the Mexican military and the narco-terrorists.
The border has been militarized by the other side.
But she sent the guard down uh and uh midst great fanfare, this is what the Arizona Guard was doing on the border.
It was changing oil and rotating tires on border patrol vehicles, and some members of the guard were helping to fix computers, and that was it.
And uh you have a situation where uh uh and it's pretty clever politically, I suppose, because the uh the big East Coast papers and the wire services say governor to put guard on border, and you think suddenly it's something really profound, but rather than standing shoulder to shoulder uh supplementing the border patrol, uh they're really handed uh secondary or uh uh really a tertiary maintenance type of role rather than border enforcement.
All right, J.D. Hayworth with us.
Now your name popped up in the lead editorial of the Wall Street Journal this morning.
The Tancredo Republicans, uh, where of course the the Wall Street Journal hand in hand with uh the Liberals and uh and with the Bush administration would have us open the border and legalize everybody illegally here.
It says um about you, quote, uh J.D. Hayworth could lose his seat in Arizona despite taking his anti-immigration riff to any radio or TV show that will have him.
In fact, uh the Democrats have targeted you.
I'm told that they've got a top 15 list and that you are number 15 uh on that list uh because of some redistricting and some uh problems in your district.
How do you feel about it?
Well, I feel just fine about the race and the Wall Street Journal.
I you know, th the amazing thing about the editorial writers there is they just ought to come out and admit it.
And you know, the late Robert Bartley was a great man, but in retrospect, the notion when he pushed for an amendment to the Constitution that reads, There shall be open borders.
I think Americans now understand that borders are reasonable, necessary, and Proper lines of geopolitical demarcation to enforce sovereignty and security.
And uh certainly if we learn nothing else from 911, you'd think that we would all have learned that lesson, especially the Wall Street Journal, where the editorial suite is ensconced uh just literally within eyesight of what was once the Twin Towers.
But the tragedy of the journal is the fact that uh not only do they advocate open borders, it's also like that old uh 1980s game show, anything for money.
And what you have right now, when you pull back the curtain, some of my traditional allies on the right, uh like the Wall Street Journal, they're all shouting cheap labor.
And those on the left are saying cheap votes.
And what you have are the American people in the middle, regardless of party affiliation or political philosophy on other issues, saying, wait a minute.
We instinctively understand that border security is national security.
We have to deal with that first, and all the talk about economic considerations and guest worker and amnesty is not only wrong, Eddie, it is way premature, and it is wrong to leverage our national security or make it conditional on some sort of economic accommodation that is amnesty for people who have come illegally and people who would be actually rewarded uh with uh with another kind of amnesty for social security fraud,
for the failure to pay taxes, uh for various and sundry other things that are just dead wrong.
J.D. Hayworth, Congressman from Arizona on the Rush Show.
I'm Roger Hedgecock.
Your calls at 1800-282-2882.
Now, what I did get uh from the White House today, J.D. is uh by the numbers, a press release saying, according to a new survey by the Terence Group, seventy-two percent of Republicans say it is extremely or very important to them that Congress address the problem of illegal immigration this year.
And what the White House means by that, of course, is their so-called comprehensive reform, which they say seventy-five percent of Republican voters favor a comprehensive approach, including uh temporary worker program and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already here,
just reading from there, and they say that only s uh from the White House release, only seventeen percent of Republican voters, they say in this Terrence Group poll oppose that proposal, which of course is supported by the uh by the White House, but not supported by the majority of the House of Representatives.
What do you think about their numbers?
Well, I I have not seen their poll, but I will tell you this what is more important than any type of poll and the preamble uh explaining the situation, then asking for reaction is what the House is prepared to do, and House Republicans are standing in the gap for the American people.
The fact that we are going to have hearings, the fact that if memory serves Roger, July 5th in your hometown of San Diego, we will be holding hearings.
And uh then in mid-August here in my home state of Arizona, the more that people see the administration's Senate amnesty plan, the more details they get on that, the less they're gonna like it.
And again, my book, Whatever It Takes, is the essential primer that sets this up.
As you know, Roger, I have one chapter that uh that uh goes with this dynamic guest worker equals amnesty equals surrender.
And you've seen the numbers, as have I. Robert Rector uh projecting through chain migration and families coming now uh to join those who are here previously illegal that would be granted sudden legal status.
Millions, millions of people coming to the United States, uh over one hundred million, perhaps as many as uh two hundred million in the next twenty years coming to the United States, uh a raid on social security, the likes of which we've never seen, and a failure to have equal treatment under the law.
Roger, you and I know if we committed social security fraud, there'd probably be jail time and there would be uh a fine of a quarter million dollars.
What we are going to excuse if we enact some sort of guest worker amnesty plan is forgiveness for those who have committed ID theft and social security fraud.
All right, but now now J.D., but let me get let me get to the other side of this, because the other side says uh that uh the Wall Street Journal and others.
So what are you gonna do about the eleven, twelve, fifteen, whatever the number is of millions of people who are in this country illegally.
What do you do about it?
Well the first thing you do is deal with the issues in the proper priority.
If anyone says the first concern we ought to have is what do we do with the millions who are already here, let me respectfully suggest that that is the wrong thing.
And members of the United States Congress, and I think everyone in public office understands that the oath we take is to our Constitution and to the citizens of the United States.
And uh this analogy I think holds up very well, Roger.
When there's a hole in your roof and the rain is pouring in, the first thing you do is patch the hole.
Then you worry about the water damage.
But more to the point, the fact is when you uh actually enforce the law in a humane way, you will see people return home voluntarily through attrition.
There need not be this straw man argument and again it was advanced in the journal editorial this morning not only wrong about my district where I lead by fifteen points, though I'll have a tough run because of the dough they're gonna throw in here at me.
But the fact is we're not talking about rounding millions of people up and sending them out all at once.
Although if you take a look at the Senate bill where they say if you've been here less than two years you're gonna be sent home guess what?
That's millions of people are they going to round them up?
No, what's going to happen is when the law is enforced and applied in a humane way, people will see that it isn't in their own self interest to leave.
And if you don't believe me, take a look in the book Whatever it takes I chronicle an operation that went on in the wake of nine eleven a special registration program where our officials went to take a look at particular absconders at those who had visas that had expired at those who might have come in illegally from Islamic nations as you recall in the wake of nine eleven real concern and once the word was on the street that the immigration officials were checking and there was scrutiny I believe there were 1500 arrests and
there were 15,000 voluntary departures.
JD Hayworth with uh enforcing the law works.
Wait a minute JD I accepted everything up to that point.
You're getting way too radical on me.
JD Hayworth from Arizona, let me take a break on the Rush Show.
I'm Roger Hedgecock back with your questions.
I want you to challenge JD.
Do you agree with what he's saying or not?
After this cock filling in for uh Rush taking your calls at 1 eight hundred two eight two eight eight two and our very special guest Congressman J.D. Hayworth from Arizona talking about I think the topic of other than the uh war,
the topic before the legislature uh in in your state uh in the national government and I think uh in every press report I I can't go a day without a stack of stories about immigration and how it's impacting good and bad whatever uh in communities across this country.
It is now everywhere.
Twenty years ago it was just here in San Diego when we were first talking about it.
Now it's everywhere.
J.D. Hayworth uh let's get back to some callers here on your comments about the uh Senate version of the bill which of course includes uh a guest worker program eventual citizenship a path to citizenship in addition to what the House bill has and that's uh some security at the border the House bill obviously with much more and uh employer sanctions and JD I've I've been through this like j it's like deja vu this is like the Bill Murray movie uh uh you know uh it it seems to me that I woke
up this morning and it's the same thing uh in eighty six I was promised three things uh if we give amnesty to everybody illegally in the country we'll tighten up the border and we'll have employer sanctions and never again will we hire an illegal well we got the amnesty but we never got the border security and we never got the employer sanctions.
That's exactly right and that's why Mark Twain's admonition history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes is so appropriate here.
The American people instinctively understand Roger that we cannot have another amnesty we cannot uh continue to leave our borders uh unsecured especially in the wake of nine eleven and you know the reason it's like groundhog day for you to cite the name of that Bill Murray movie is is because is because this issue is tied to everything else.
Border security is national security.
And far from economic security through through um uh cheap labor, what you're doing is you're basically uh undercutting uh those uh in the the the most deserving Americans who want to get into the job market uh who who need help on the lower end of the socioeconomic ladder uh you're also threatening social security a tremendous drain on education spending and and on health care spending when you basically provide entitlements uh for non citizens who have come here illegally and a tremendous cost shift from the businesses
who bring in illegal laborers and then expect the taxpayers to pick up the tab for health and other services.
And that is why you not only have to have strong border security, you must have interior enforcement, because it is wrong for employers to knowingly hire illegals, and it is time for our laws to be enforced.
And that's where there's agreement, Roger.
That's the whole thing about this.
If there's one thing you hear from the Senate, if there's one thing you've seen in a variety of different bills, including my own enforcement first, the basic component is that enforcement let's begin with that and then if the President and others want to make a case for guest workers I have some profound disagreements but they should do that later.
Well let's find out more about that national security.
Let's find out more about that.
JD Hayworth Congressman from Arizona with us.
Here's David on a cell phone in Morrow Bay, California on the Rush Show.
Hi David.
Good morning.
Hi J J D I I'm in agriculture.
We pick avocados I would say from articles I've read from the University of California, seventy percent or more of the farm workers are not here illegally.
Agriculture has tried for years to get those numbers changed and work some bill through Congress.
What's going to happen to the farms?
Who's going to do the work?
Well David, first of all, as you recall too, there have also been studies done by various universities uh that uh all the talk about produce uh cost rising astronomically just is not the case.
Take a look at what happened when the Brasero program was terminated.
We heard that tomatoes were going to rot in the fields and yet what happened?
Uh the you came up with a machine to pick tomatoes but you can't use a machine to pick avocados.
But here's the thing if we actually utilized the uh the agricultural worker programs we have and we worked under the framework of those visas that we have now rather than trying to carve out exceptions after the fact we'd be much better off.
But a lot of my friends in agriculture come to me and they say no that's overregulation.
It's too costly to have people obey the law.
Well I think we need to have people obey the law in the post nine eleven era and I don't think we're headed for economic ruination, but I think you can make that case but we better deal with enforcement first, David.
All right, J.D. Hayworth with us uh Congressman Hayworth now this out of Washington AP noting uh just now a controversial Arizona law that requires voters to voters to prove they are U.S. citizens and present a photo ID is drawing the attention of a congressional panel.
Henry Hyde of Illinois is sponsoring uh legislation to uh prevent fraud arguing and opponents are saying you uh you require citizenship papers and an ID to get a ballot you would deter many uh legitimate voters from voting.
Have you heard about this one?
Uh yeah I've heard all this all the uh wailing and gnashing of teeth about the simple notion of being uh who you are uh uh who you say you are when you go to the polls and uh look we gotta protect the franchise we have to protect citizenship and that is why it is uh it is vital that we get this done the right way and it's simple.
You know when you line up to get on an airplane uh you have to have some sort of ID and and why not just simply be able to say yes I am a citizen and here's the proof.
Here's here's my proof, here's my voter registration card and here's uh this is who I say I am.
And and just one other note I have to pass along Roger when David called up about his his eyesight of uh according to him seventy percent of the people are illegal working on the farms.
I got to tell you what we've been able to find out in document only less than one quarter of ag workers in the United States are here illegally.
There are what they call H1B programs.
I've had a ton of people on my local show who are brokers for workers Who legitimately come across the border now with a temporary worker uh uh permits.
They are uh they are given transportation, they're they're adequately uh fed, they are given uh the minimum wage or whatever the wage is that they've negotiated, uh they're protected by law.
In other words, they're legal.
And this is what uh th this is what I don't understand.
We have those programs now.
Yeah, and that what we have to do is take a look at those programs and then have the debate you expand those, but not carve out a new exception, and nor should we carve out this excuse that, oh gee, you don't need to be able to prove uh that you are who you say you are when you vote.
Talk about voter fraud and real problems at the polls.
See, I'm not sure.
All right, JD, I've got I've got to run.
I've got to run, keep keep with us because I want to talk to you about the war.
I want to talk to you about the resolutions.
Is it cut and run or cut and crawl?
Where are we going on Iraq after this?
Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program and all the information, of course, at Rush Limbaugh.com about Rush Today at his symposium in Washington, D.C., all of that uh up on the website, Rushlinbaugh.com.
And of course, your phone calls today at 1 800 282-2882 as we continue a relentless pursuit of truth.
And we do that even in Russia's absence.
That's what uh we're brought in here to do.
No we don't just throw on a video.
You're not just uh, you know, kicking back uh today thinking about the weekend.
No, no, no.
We got work to do, and we're doing it with J.D. Hayworth, Congressman from Arizona.
Big bullseye on this guy's back from uh everybody trying to prove from the Wall Street Journal to the F of L CIO uh that they can kick out of Congress somebody who is this strong on the subject of illegal immigration.
Let's take a call for J.D. from Jeff in Detroit, Michigan.
Hi, Jeff.
Hey, JD, how are you?
Hey, Jeff, thanks for calling.
You know, I I'm a little nervous here, but I got to tell you you are one of my heroes, and I've been uh been paying attention to your every word, and thank God for people like you and Tom Tencreto and the others who are willing to stand up and fight this fight.
Thank you.
Well, Jeff, let me thank you because it's people like you from Detroit to Denver to Decatur, Georgia, all around the country, Jeff, who are making the difference because our founders designed this government.
They they named us representatives for a reason.
And it's because representing the people and hearing from the people, we are able to make decisions with the people's welfare uppermost in our mind and not have a confluence of special interest try to get together and ram a bill down our throats that would try to leverage our national security in favor of some sort of amnesty program.
And Jeff, I really appreciate you taking the time, and that's what's what it's going to take, Roger.
You know, uh the people who've read whatever it takes understands the first thing that it takes is an informed electorate rising up to say no to the notion of uh of allowing illegal immigration, uh saying yes to the notion that we understand border security is synonymous with national security,
and that is the most basic component of whatever it takes, people standing up, and the good news is enough citizens have s have stood up now to be counted that the House of Representative is hearing loudly and clearly, and that's why we're standing here in the breach.
That's why we're holding the hearing.
J.D. Now, yeah, these hearings, I was going to get to that.
Are these hearings announced by uh Speaker uh Hastert uh as the uh mainstream press has been painting them?
Are they an attempt to keep any bill from that they're saying, look, this delay is going to be tantamount to sabotaging getting any bill out of Congress and to the President's desk that in effect Republicans who are pro-border security, who are in the majority in the House uh would rather have no bill than a bad bill, and therefore hand Bush a defeat, and therefore maybe even in danger because the public does want something done, endanger their own political lives by getting nothing done.
Well, that was one of the themes in the in the journal this morning, Roger, and I can see where people might have that impression.
But but let us state for the record that again, as I said before the break, there is already consensus.
You hear it from everybody in terms of priority, what is the most basic function of government?
That's protection of the citizens.
So why hold hearings?
Well, because you have to have hearings to to let people see what the Senate wants to do.
And you have to let people know that no, it is wrong to uh basically allow millions of illegals to come forward here, to carve out special considerations for them, to give guaranteed social security benefits for illegals uh dating from the time they came to the country illegally to allow them to commit social security fraud and have amnesty for something that would be a felony for citizens.
Uh to allow illegals to pay only three of five years of back taxes, in other words, to have tax amnesty.
We need to go over the plan because it puts too much of an emphasis on the wrong parts.
And quite frankly, my desire, and I've expressed this to uh uh uh uh people in the legislative and the executive branches, again we have agreement on enforcement.
Let us move forward there on enforcement and not try to leverage uh or or or hold up our security based on the Amnesty plan.
Here's where we get J.D. Hayworth with us from uh Arizona Congressman Hayworth.
Here's where we get J.D. down to the problem.
It's a problem of trust.
If the Bush administration for five years had credibility on border security issues, I think a comprehensive program would sail through the House of Representatives.
I really do.
Because I believe that if you believed that George Bush really wanted to protect the border and get the border under control, that you'd be able to deal the other issues of legal immigration that do need to be addressed.
Uh I I I gotta believe when when his guy comes out, the head of uh of uh of one of his programs here comes out on border security and says he doesn't believe that offense is the answer.
When we in San Diego have proven that offense does work, it's here, and we have stopped virtually illegal immigration dur uh in those areas where we do have a fence, certainly stop the drug runners who used to drive their SUVs across the border every night.
We've certainly stopped a lot of stuff that uh that used to just willy-nilly come across the border.
So here is you know, right here in San Diego we've shown that.
So here is the Bush administration while they're saying, Oh, we're gonna put the guard on the border and we're gonna do this and we're gonna do that.
They just don't have any credibility.
No wall at the border, no enforcement at the border, no reaction to military incursions by the Mexicans, no reaction to anything.
Well, you know what?
There is something called uh proof of performance, and it has been lacking.
And to have the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security say, as Judge Chertoff said in Houston back in November, that it was his uh goal to have operational control of the borders in five years' time.
Now just stop and think about that.
That means on the tenth anniversary of nine eleven, we might get around to having control of our borders.
Now I don't care uh if people are in my party or or where they line up, if we don't move now to protect our borders, obviously, as recently as just a couple of weeks ago, not only our southern border, what was going on in Canada with the uh terror cell there, nor uh on our northern border.
If we don't move to have border security, our national security is at risk.
And when the president's right on something, I'm one of his uh chief allies.
But when I believe him to be mistaken, I do not hesitate to say we're wrong.
And right now we're pursuing the wrong course of action.
We need enforcement first.
J. D. Hayworth with us, uh the book is whatever it takes, and uh in the fifth district in Arizona.
Uh J.D., uh, what do you make of the uh security and prosperity partnership of North America?
This is found on the web at SPP.gov, a uh well, uh a working group apparently coming in under NAFTA that would uh implement the security and prosperity partnership, something signed here in March of 2005,
which might lead to some things like a super highway between uh the eastern uh shore, Monterey and so forth of Mexico, all the way up through Texas, Kansas City and into Canada, uh and in effect trying to meld the U.S., Mexico, and Canada into a new uh a la the European Union into a new partnership in which the borders really are down uh are downplayed.
That's right.
That's just some of the open borders crowd.
And listen, you can never sacrifice national security.
This is not xenophobia.
It's just common sense.
We need to have uh our border security and our sovereignty and attempts to suborn our sovereignty to some sort of regional alliance or to make those borders disappear, uh are harmful, are harmful to the American people and the uh the future of the American nation.
Barry in Queens, New York is next on the phones.
Barry, welcome to the Rush Show.
Yes, good afternoon.
Roger, JD, I just want to thank you guys for giving us a voice and not insulting our intelligence.
Um enforcement first, yes, it's gotta stop the flood.
And as far as the twelve million that are here now, the illegals that are here, what to do with them.
Let's first start by not publicly funding them at any level.
If they're going to work, we can't do anything about it right now until we can resolve the whole problem fine.
But no public subsidies of funding.
Stop the anchor babies and stop the anchor babies, extend it to families and extended families so that it's a never ending cycle.
You know, uh it it it may be may sound jaconian, but compassion and charity begin at home, and we have to we we've got to fix the problem somewhere, and this might be a good start.
Well, you know you're not going to be able to do that.
Yeah, Barry, don't don't don't be uh don't be feeling uh bad about this or defensive about it.
Uh otherwise you're gonna fall for the logic that says that every single poor person in the world deserves to be in the United States.
We obviously can't physically do that.
What we can do is export the freedom and capitalism that would allow those people in their country to be as prosperous as we are.
They've done that in Hong Kong and in Singapore and with our help in uh parts of Western uh Europe.
Uh they've done it around the world, anywhere where they want to embrace freedom and property and capitalism and democracy and all those good things.
So, Barry, I'm not in the least bit defensive about saying that you cannot come to the United States, every single one of you folks in the six billion people on the pl on the planet, to find freedom.
You're going to have to get it, some of you know, most of you uh in your own country.
In Mexico, for example, is there going to be a time when the Mexicans actually, the Guatemalans and many other people face up to the fact that the potential in their country is being stifled by a couple of hundred families that own everything and keep everybody uh suppressed and and the wages suppressed.
It's time for people to speak honestly about these things.
Mexico could be one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
They're sitting on top of an ocean of oil, uh precious minerals, they're a tremendously hardworking people.
There isn't any question about that.
Uh but they are in uh uh uh caught in a political system that benefits the very few and punishes the many.
Else, why would a third of their people be uh seeking opportunity in the United States?
Uh J.D., am I wrong about that?
You know, you lay it out, uh Roger, and then I talk about it in the book, whatever it takes, and I thank Barry for his observations there in Queens, New York.
Nobody is against legal immigration.
We have major problems with illegal immigration, and the sad fact is the Republic of Mexico made a conscious decision.
President Fox and others decided to outsource Mexico's poverty to the United States.
And that is what has happened.
And even with the economic blessings, you talked about the energy resources, the precious metals, the hospitable climate for agriculture.
Even with all of that going on, uh the number two uh moneymaker revenue source for the Republic of Mexico is remittances from the United States.
Number one, PIMEX, the state-owned, the Mexican-owned, a government-owned oil and energy company.
But number two, remittances from the United States sent back by workers, many of whom are here illegally, uh, and the multiplier effect may make that the most profound uh source of money coming into Mexico.
And you have to ask yourself, gee, uh as the Mexican people face an election, isn't it time for the Mexican government to step up and care for its own people rather than sending out uh pamphlets saying here's your guide how to how to quote immigrate to the United States,
that is, sneak into the country illegally, and that's why I have a chapter, sadly, about Mexico, friend or foe, because uh as the uh days and years are passing, it seems the Republic of Mexico, our close neighbor, is not been muching uh has not been much of a friend.
Big uh election coming up in that regard, too.
Uh J.D. Hayworth with us from Congress from uh uh from Arizona.
I'm Roger Hitchcock, Infor Rush.
Back right after this.
I'll tell you something else.
Uh Roger Hedgecock in for Rush Limbaugh and J.D. Hayworth, Congressman from Arizona, our guest.
I'll tell you something else uh that bothers me, uh J.D. about uh uh George Bush and I do get frustrated about this is we have been discovering weapons of mass destruction since 2003 in Iraq.
Uh there have been, and the most recent one that Santorum points out in a declassified partial uh briefing that he got.
The part was declassified, over five hundred chemical weapons, uh artillery shells and canisters with poisonous gas, sarin gas, uh uh mustard gas.
Uh we know the uh the toxicity of this kind of thing.
We know its lethality.
And and yet uh it's poo poo time, it's no big deal.
The Bush administration doesn't even want to tout it, doesn't want to get out in front, doesn't want to say, hey, you guys are all wrong.
You've been uh banging me about the head and shoulders for three years that we never found the WMD, and here they are, and they've been there, and we've been discovering them ever since we got there.
Well, what's the story with that?
Well, I think what we have to understand is this.
President Bush is our chief executive, and he has an administration ostensibly working for him and the American people.
Now, some within that administration have decided not so much to work for the president, really for the American people.
A lot of people uh throughout the bureaucracy uh and some officials uh take it uh uh in their own hands to uh to cast a poor light on things.
I cannot understand uh the comments from some within the Defense Department, oh well these weren't the weapons of mass destruction we went to war over.
Oh, really?
Well, they're weapons of mass destruction, they were utilized against the Iranians in that war in the nineteen eighties.
They were utilized against the Kurds and the Marsh Arabs.
They do carry uh uh lethality.
They are still apparently uh being uncovered.
Uh this is a very dynamic situation where we have to continue to uncover uh these weapons dumps and these these chemical dumps, and uh to simply try to understate the seriousness of this, uh I likewise find is a major concern.
And and ultimately, uh the president uh when he takes a look at situations and and deals with them head on, I think uh I think he does a good job.
He may not have the most elegant eloquent way to uh to turn a phrase, but when he lays it out in a common sense, no nonsense fashion, the American people get it.
And I will tell you, uh, in stark contrast, sadly, to what we have with our border situation, when it comes to the war on terror, in terms of being firm in his resolve and strong in his intent, this president has stood tall.
It is a pity that there are those minions within the bureaucracy across the administration who I believe seek to undermine him.
Interesting.
Well, let's uh let's talk about a test that's coming up in North Korea.
The North Koreans may be testing their uh missile that could go uh to two-thirds of the United States.
Uh isn't it time to test our anti-missile defense?
Yep, as you know, we've activated.
We've seen the reports about activating our our missile shield using the Aegis cruisers and the other land-based uh uh land-based features of this system, and I think it's entirely proper to do so.
And I think that uh North Korea uh should understand uh as uh has been stated in in fairly frank diplomatic language the gravity of this situation.
Some say that he's uh Kim Jong il, the uh Kim Jong mentally ill, as I think uh I uh call him, is the is uh is a guy who uh does these kinds of things in order to well stimulate some response from the United States.
He's like a three-year-old.
He needs attention.
We pay too much attention to Iraq, to Iran.
What about my attention?
Well, I I uh don't know if I can really offer a psychological psychological profile of uh of the North Korean dictator.
Hey, why not everybody else know is that that uh they they are looking for uh for some sort of concession.
They are looking, you know, that here's a guy who starves his people.
The famine in North Korea has been uh uh just a a tragedy in a hu in human dimensions.
Uh and yet this this ruthless despot uh has uh has been after uh these nuclear weapons, and is now this tape o Dong missile uh with the ability to strike the United States.
It is a very serious situation.
J.D., I appreciate your being with us today.
Thanks for hanging with us.
The book is whatever it takes on the border and lots of other subjects.
J.D. Hayworth in Arizona is uh right at the cutting edge in this House of Representatives.
J.D., thanks a lot.
Roger, thank you.
Appreciate it.
We're gonna be back.
I'm Roger Hedgecock in for Rush Limbaugh.
More right after this.
Roger Hedgecock in for Rush.
I want to get back to Iran, Iraq.
Uh by the way, things are normalizing in Iraq as the uh ice cream parlors open up in Baghdad.
Got to be a sign of security somewhere.
Uh we'll come back with uh Korea as well, and uh Joel Rosenberg will visit your calls too at 1-800-282-2882, as we uh pursue and again, this is I know it's a substitute teacher, but hey, all of us, you know what we're doing?
That's the pursuit of truth, and you know that's what Rush would want us to do.
By the way, all the information on what Russia's been doing today at Rush Limbaugh.com symposium in DC, and you know he's the star.
And you know he's got a lot to say at Rush Limbaugh.com.
I'm Roger Hitchcock.
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