Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program, and thank you very much, Rush, for allowing me to sit in today.
And boy, I'll tell you what, substitute teacher or no, we are going to get to it today.
Lots going on.
If you have perused the news at all, you know that there's been a huge bust down in Miami.
Potential terrorists down there will get into just how and why they got that glazed look.
They looked like they were brainwashed, said a neighbor.
We'll find out and trace the cause of that for you.
Congress still debating whether to cut and run, cut and walk, or cut and crawl.
We'll get to those varying deadlines coming up today on the show as well.
Weapons of mass destruction, ladies and gentlemen, in Iraq.
Could it possibly be true?
And of course, now the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, L.A. Times, everybody talking about a quote secret Bush administration program to assess the financial access, the financial records of each and every American.
And, well, not quite news, folks, and we'll have that detail as well.
And by the way, welcome from KOGO Radio here in San Diego in the southwest corner of the United States in the home of the 50th Congressional District, where we are represented by a Republican, Brian Bilbray, and not by Francine Busby, the Democrat who was supposed to be the standard-bearer for the Democrats retaking the House of Representatives.
Remember when that was supposed to happen?
The sounds of guns not firing, ladies and gentlemen, the sounds of celebrations, champagne corks not going off in the editorial page room of the New York Times because Mr. Bilbray won.
In fact, the New York Times headline on June 8th was: quote, narrow victory by GOP signals fall problems.
You got to love it.
Although the Wall Street Journal wasn't far behind today in their lead editorial talking about, well, no big deal.
Bill Bray won in a 60% Republican district.
No, he didn't.
The registration of Republicans in his district is 40%.
He got 49.3%.
Okay?
So correcting the record wherever we can with the media.
Whether, gosh, the New York Times or not.
All right, let's get to the news here.
Oh, first of all, the weapons of mass destruction thing is too funny because today now they're out today saying, well, Santorum doesn't know what he's talking about, even though he quotes a now unclassified briefing paper.
Now the AP is writing, quote, hundreds of chemical weapons found in Iraq were produced before the 1991 Gulf War and probably are so old they couldn't be used as designed.
Okay, that's the good news.
But they are weapons of mass destruction.
They were dropped during the Iraq-Iran war.
They were dropped by Saddam on his own people.
He did have the capability to do that.
I mean, if 500 of these weapons of mass destruction are not enough, would 600?
How about 800?
Can we have a debate about how many weapons of mass destruction make weapons of mass destruction rationale for the war okay?
Good grief.
All right, so today's news, of course, coming out of the Miami area, where Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez.
I know you want to hear this again, don't you?
I know you want to hear this again.
Because I'll get back to this later in the program with J.D. Hayworth, who's been targeted by the Dems, our famous friend, Republican congressman out of Arizona, and this issue of are the Dems putting illegal aliens in the voting booth.
The answer is yes, if you remember to an illegal alien audience, and I was the one who got the audio tape on this via the Minutemen who infiltrated the meeting, illegal alien rally, Spanish-speaking media only invited, no English-speaking media invited, where Francine Busby was rallying the illegals to help her in the campaign, asked by a person, a young man there, who said, I don't have papers,
how can I help you?
Don't have papers, you know what that means.
I'm illegally in the country.
I don't have documents.
I am an undocumented guest worker.
I'm an illegal alien.
How can I help?
And she says.
You don't need papers for voting.
You don't need to be a registered voter to help.
You don't need papers for voting.
That is the real stealth weapon, the weapon of electoral destruction the Democratic Party intends to wage this fall.
And that's why the illegal alien issue is so important, but we'll get back to it.
Now, today, mostly citizens, described as homegrown terrorists, seven young men arrested in Miami.
Now, what do they have in common?
Well, they're all young men, and they're all Muslim.
I didn't see a grandmother in the group.
I didn't see a kid in a stroller.
I didn't see any of these other people get patted down when I'm in line at the airport.
Nope.
Seem to be all young men, Muslims.
The neighbor said, brainwashed.
Here is the description because we asked the question: who are these people?
Are they all citizens?
And here is, during the briefing by Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, here is what the Attorney General said.
The defendants, five American citizens, one legal permanent resident, and one Haitian national in the United States illegally are expected to make appearances at U.S. District Court in Miami today.
Now, Gonzalez went on to say that, quote, they were persons who, for whatever reason, came to view their home country as the enemy, came to view their home country as the enemy.
Well, I understand now perfectly.
They're Democrats.
They are people who have been.
Here's what we need to do.
We need to go into that warehouse and get a list of their subscriptions.
Because I guarantee you, they've been reading the New York Times, the Washington Post.
They've been watching CBS and NBS and ABS.
The mainstream media, the drive-by media is probably all they get.
Maybe they can't get cable down there or the Rush Show or any of this that would give them some information that would allow them to love their country.
You see, if you just read the New York Times, then you're going to come to hate this country too, just like the people who run the New York Times do.
Alberto Gonzalez let the cat out of the bag.
They came to view their home country as the enemy.
Doesn't Cindy Sheehan view her home country as the enemy?
She said it many times.
Doesn't John Kerry, who's been on every side of every issue, view his country as the enemy?
He has all his life.
Well, ever since Vietnam.
You remember he served in Vietnam.
John Kerry?
Yeah.
So I'm Roger Hedgecock, filling in for Rush and taking your calls at 1-800-282-2882.
So we're going to try to get their subscription list of these folks to find out if they went to Al-Qaeda as a natural outgrowth of their reading of the mainstream press.
I think we've also got a violation of their religious rights, their right to free expression of their religion, because as Muslims, according to that, they have a right to violence against the infidels.
According to a May 23 broadcast on Saudi Arabia's TV Channel 1, an interviewer is asking the Saudi Shura Council member, this is the highest law-giving body under the king in Saudi Arabia, is the Shura Council.
And a member of that council, Ibrahim al-Bulbihi, Bula Bula, I don't know, Ibrahim al-Bulahi.
He says, and this has been interpreted from the Arabic by the Middle East Media Research Institute, to whom I am grateful, since I'm not fluent in Arabic.
I can't even pronounce the guy's name.
But here's what they say he said in Arabic: quote: Some elements in Arab and Muslim societies have intensified the hostility towards Arabs and Muslims through their acts of violence and terrorism to the point that we see images of slaughtering the other, American or European, on TV.
And al-Buluhai says, in my opinion, we should not describe these people as deviant.
In other words, these violent and terroristic Arabs and Muslims as deviant.
We should not describe these people as deviant.
This is the product of our culture.
This is a guy who's the head of the highest council in Saudi Arabia.
He says, quote, they, that is the terrorists, are the product of a culture that believes the other does not deserve to live.
That is anyone other than themselves, anyone other than Muslim, does not deserve to live, and is an absolute enemy with whom no understanding is possible.
He says there's a fundamental flaw in our culture that leads to this behavior, he says.
And he goes on to talk about the ideology advocated by Saeed Utbah, a 20th century Egyptian intellectual associated with the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, and which is implemented by those who kill innocent people.
It did not emerge out of thin air, he says, but is the product of our culture.
He says this is a one-dimensional culture, a culture of tyranny in politics, in society, in the family, in everything.
And he says the other is not just an infidel.
The other does not have to be completely different.
When we disagree with someone, even over a shoeshine, we regard him as the other.
We boycott him, we excommunicate him, we defame him, we level accusations at him, and we kill him.
So if this is the religion that these young men have espoused, then obviously their right to blow up the Sears Tower cannot be impeded because they have a complete right to express their religion, which includes this right of violence and killing.
And we've got to simply understand these things.
We've got to come to grips with the commitment we have to the First Amendment as interpreted by the ACLU.
Else, I mean, why else is it strong?
This is the strength of America that we can watch buildings being blown up and say, isn't it great that we can tolerate other religious practices in our midst?
I'm Roger Hedgecock filling in for Rush Limbaugh at 1-800-282-2882.
Back after this.
Roger Hedgecock, in for Rush Limbaugh today, and taking whatever call you want to.
I mean, I'm throwing out some news here, but I want to know what the news is where you are at 1-800-282-2882.
Here is Osama in Orlando, Florida.
Hi there.
Hey, hi, Roger.
I've been listening to you.
You just got to slow down on the anti-Muslim rhetoric.
There's just a few hundreds of thousands evil, right-wing, jihadists, crazy Muslim people.
But the way you're talking about it, if somebody is unfamiliar with Muslims, he may be painting a bitterly in Muslims, which may be good people.
I don't think any sane rational Muslim can advocate or support what these crazy people are doing.
Even the people who are up there in the Muslim hierarchy, the clerics, if those people think that it's okay to do what these people are doing, it's wrong.
It's not written in the Quran.
It's wrong.
So your listeners will know there's normal middle-of-the-road Muslims that disagree with what these evil people are doing.
Well, I sure hope so, and it's my continued optimism, Osama, that this is true.
However, every time something like this happens, and it's happening, if you're on cable TV right now, you will see it unfolding as I'm talking, that Muslim leaders in Florida are getting on the TV and they're saying, we don't even know these guys.
We have no idea where they came from.
They don't go to the local mosque.
They're unknown to us.
This isn't who we are.
And then we have other people being interviewed in the neighborhood going, they went to the mosque.
They proclaimed themselves to be members of Islam.
They hated this country.
They were on the jihad.
And then I go to Saudi Arabia and where all this stuff came from, these Wahhabist extremist people you're talking about.
And here's this guy, this guy from the Shura Council in Saudi Arabia.
He's on TV there saying, yeah, this is a product of this culture.
This is what we do.
Violence is part of Islam as we see it.
I'd have to say, for those extremists and those people that are out of control, they may advocate violence.
But most Muslims, 99% of them in America and in the world, are peaceful, law-abiding people.
And this fine line walking between the Saudis and our current administration and every administration before and after is a direct result of the geopolitical economic needs of our country.
We're not hammering the Saudis, even though most of the terrorists that committed the 911 atrocious act were Saudis.
We let the Saudis leave this country, the immediate relatives of the bin Laden family.
That wasn't done by Muslims.
That was done by the highest levels of our government.
Okay, Osama, so what are you saying?
That the Bush administration is in league with the terrorists?
The Bush administration has to walk a fine, delicate, political, economic line with the Saudis who provide a good bit of our oil, and also provide bases from which we can wage the correct war on terrorism in the Middle East.
And I'm all for that.
But we need to take more of a disclosure with the Saudis and the United States.
Well, they kicked us out of Saudi Arabia.
There are no Saudi bases.
They kicked us out.
We're in Kuwait.
I understand that.
But in the past, historically, that's what we had.
Okay, so Osama, what do you think about Wahhabi as a form of Islam?
Is it legitimate or not?
I think they're a bunch of crazy lunatics.
This is the good Osama talking, right?
The Osama that's a doctor, the Osama that goes to work every day, pays his taxes, believes in America, thinks this is the greatest country on planet Earth.
And I'm originally from Egypt.
And I'm telling you that those people are a radical fringe wing.
And what I think these Muslims are.
Let me ask you a question.
What newspaper do you subscribe to and what TV do you watch in the news?
Say again, say that question again.
Yeah, what TV do you watch, news TV, and what subscriptions do you have for newspapers?
Well, the local newspaper here, Orlando Sentinel.
Of course, I read the New York Times online, watch Fox, CNN, headline news, everything.
Okay, because I have a suspicion that perhaps these folks who Mr. Gonzalez, our attorney general, said hated their country, had just been fed a strict diet of the New York Times, Washington Post, and CBS.
Maybe they just, you know, because of the mainstream media, they just hated the country, like most Democrats.
I think if you watch the news, everyone's getting their opinion out.
I think, obviously, talk AM radio is a little more slanted towards conservatives and Republicans and Democrats.
But I think everyone's getting the word out.
And I think these people have a lot of bitterness and they see the world through a very distorted lens.
And of course, they can pick whatever they want in the media to say, aha.
Okay, let me try to.
Osama, let me just try to interrupt this stuff.
Because look, when the Catholic Church was revealed to have among its priests child predators, the entire society came down on that church.
Its own members came down on that church.
There were lawsuits.
There was a pinpointing of who the individuals were who were at fault.
They were brought up on charges.
They were condemned.
They were defrocked.
Justice was applied.
In Islam, we go year after year after year.
We're 25 years into this war.
And every time there's a violent act that kills a lot of innocent people, every other Muslim says, hey, it's not us.
But they never say who it is.
And we never see any justice about the imams who continue to preach hate.
And we never see any fingering of people and calling out people.
And we never see Islam stand up and say, no, that isn't us.
Those guys over there, we're going to punish them.
There's never any of that.
There's just cover-up and nice wishes.
I agree with you.
I agree with you.
But when the hell is it going to start?
The people in this community should root out these bad elements?
No, you should.
No, no, no, no, Osama.
You should.
You're the one who's a Muslim telling me that there's a lot of you good guys, but all you good guys are just a lot of talk.
When are you going to get after the Imams who are preaching the hate?
Hey, I'm doing it today.
I'm on the radio with you.
This voice is being broadcast over hospitality.
I want you to name an imam.
I'm saying it out loud.
No, What you're saying out loud is there are a lot of good Muslims.
Please don't categorize us all with the same brush.
But you're not going after the guys that you know perfectly well are teaching hate.
And when you get behind these seven young men, you know there's going to be an imam in there that we led into this country preaching hate and that none of you guys have ever fingered.
You have to be a realistic.
I don't know every imam in the world, but if I knew one who was here or if I knew somebody here who was committing any kind of terrorist act against this country, you can bet I would turn them over in the New York second.
Osama, that isn't what I'm asking you to do.
You know perfectly well as we talk people in the mosque who are preaching hatred of the United States and you're protecting it.
No, no, no, no.
And I think every one of these so-called good Muslims knows perfectly well.
They're preaching about God and about the Ten Commandments.
They're preaching about jihad and hate and violence.
Otherwise, where did these seven young men come up with this stuff?
They didn't invent it.
Well, maybe they got it from their al-Qaeda connections outside of this country.
No, no, Osama.
They got it down the street.
Just like here in Claremont in San Diego, we have a mosque that maintains to this day that all they talk about is God and so forth.
But somehow or other, a couple of the hijackers came out of this neighborhood and wound up in the plane crashing into the World Trade Center because they thought that's what God told them to do.
Somebody told them, Osama.
Somebody.
I'm Roger Hitchcock, in for Rush Limbaugh.
Back after this.
Roger Hedgecock, in for Rush Limbaugh at 1-800-282-2882.
Now, the big news today at the New York Times and L.A. Times and a big story about how the Bush administration tried to keep them from doing this story because, of course, it's a secret Bush administration program to access financial records of thousands of Americans.
The New York Times headline, bank data is sifted by U.S. in secret to block terror.
And it is the lead story today in the New York Times, June 23, 2006.
I have in front of me the testimony of Richard Spillencoffin, who's the director of the Division of Banking Supervision and Regulation, regarding anti-terrorism initiatives in sworn testimony before the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs of the United States Senate, as reported in various places after the testimony was given on January 29, 2002.
January 29, 2002, public testimony to Congress under oath reported in various places.
And what does he say?
Working with Treasury on the implementation of the Patriot Act, he says, quote, Treasury has established 20 working groups for the different regulatory projects, and we're expecting to issue proposed rules setting forth minimum standards for financial institutions to verify the identification of their customers, and another requiring financial institutions to conduct due diligence to identify suspicious activities involving correspondent and private banking accounts.
In implementation of the Patriot Act, the Bush administration has already told Congress on January 29, 2002 that if you're shifting a bunch of unmarked 100s to, let's say, Afghanistan, they're going to kind of make a couple of questions.
This is like that whole deal they did about the NSA is listening to all of your phone conversations, every one of your phone conversations, and they're even posting their own pictures at MySpace.
No, just kidding.
So this is, you know, nonsense.
They weren't listening to everybody's phone conversations.
They were looking at the bills.
They were going through where the calls originated from and where they went to.
And if you were calling, you know, the bad Osama back in Afghanistan, or you were in touch with Zawahiri, or you were, you know, if you were calling Somalia to get the al-Qaeda types there some money, then you were going to get, thank goodness.
Yes, of course, we're in a war.
The Patriot Act authorizes the president to defend the country, to ferret out the terrorists, to run them down wherever they're hiding, to dry up their sources of revenue, to dry up their sources of support.
Of course.
Every once in a while I think about World War II and I wasn't here.
But I think about World War II.
Can you imagine a congressman saying on the front page of the paper, the New York Times, on June 23rd, 1943, why President Roosevelt is looking at our mail.
He's not allowing the soldiers to have their say under the First Amendment.
I get a letter from my son at the front and all these black lines are through it.
What is he trying to tell me that Roosevelt won't let him say?
Of course they didn't say that.
They said we're not going to allow things that would help the enemy to get out into public circulation because we want to win the war.
Apparently the New York Times doesn't think we're in a war and if we are, doesn't want to win it.
No wonder people who read the New York Times hate America, hate Bush, have this degree of terrible hatred in their hearts.
They've become enemies of the country in a way that's very sad.
I don't mean this to say in any vindictive way, but it's very sad.
All right, let's take some more calls.
Here's Frank in Denver, Colorado on the Rush Show.
Hi, Frank.
Hello, you there?
Hello, Frank.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Hey, I kind of agree just a little bit on the gentleman before you, but I'm not a Muslim, so I can't answer a lot of his questions.
But I think a lot of these guys are basically like gangs, non-professionals.
Because if they were for real, if they were hardcore, you think they'd be telling everybody on the street?
So that's all I got to say about them.
My second question was, I really feel sorry for these families the other day.
Their kids were mutilated.
And I guess I've got to speak from experience here.
I'm a veteran of Vietnam, and I remember a lot of our 200-pound bombs falling on some villages, and we go in and take body counts.
And let me tell you what, some of these bombs can tear you apart.
They can behead you.
I've seen so many babies, so many adults, innocent people, no heads.
I mean, it's no different than those guys chopping heads off because that's their method of fighting this war, and that's to get to our heads, and they're doing a job of it, too.
Okay?
So that's all I got to say.
Now, Frank, understanding that they're doing a job, they're doing just what they have to do.
Do you think we ought to defeat them or not?
Do what now?
I know.
Let me slow down because this might be a concept.
It's a little tough.
Do you think we ought to defeat them in this war?
I tell you what, the way I'm watching it on television, I feel like I'm there again.
We're doing it.
We're fighting them, but we're fighting their war.
We're doing it their way.
We got to turn around, and we've got to train those Iraqi troops to be just like them, because they look like them, right?
They're infiltrating into their armies.
They wear their uniforms, but why can't we do the same thing?
Train those troops not to be patrol officers out on the street because they're going to get killed out there just like our troops are.
Train them to infiltrate, go into their armies, come back, and then we use our bombs, okay?
Because that's the mistake we've made in Vietnam.
We would wasted all this money for nothing.
And we came back, like I came back, a baby killer, right?
Because I've seen it.
I knew all that stuff, huh?
Were you a baby killer?
Well, all my life I felt that way, yes.
Because, you know, I'm having like flashbacks now because of this war going on now.
But I remember babies dying.
I remember they had nothing to do with it.
All right.
But Frank, hold on, hold on.
Yeah, go ahead.
Again, let's get back to some facts here.
Okay.
Did you kill babies in Vietnam?
Yes.
How did you kill babies?
Okay, just like, you know, these soldiers the other day, or they're being prosecuted, these Marines.
I was in the Marine Corps.
And let me tell you what, just like these snipers shooting from those buildings, they don't see them.
Well, in Vietnam, I didn't see them.
Same thing.
I'd shoot into the direction of the noise.
We'd get there, and there's babies dead.
There's adults dead.
There's innocent people dead.
And this is what the enemy wants to do to us.
They want to demoralize us, and they want the public to go against us.
The longer we kill those innocent people, the longer we're there, the more those people that voted are going to vote us out of the country.
What do you mean by innocent people?
Well, the innocent bystanders they're putting in between.
They did this in Vietnam.
They would put innocent people, like women, children, and everything.
They would shoot from where those people were at, and they knew all they had to do was get underground, and we shoot in the direction of the sound, and there's all the innocent people there, all dead.
We get over there, and they're dead.
And I'm sure this is happening in Iraq.
And that's what happened to these Marines the other day.
They got sniped at.
They got shot at.
They didn't know where it was coming from.
They shot in the direction of the sound.
And once they got there, these people are dead.
Now, it's not their fault.
And so, Frank, when they're charged with murder, your position is that's just an ⁇ if we charge them with murder, we're in effect confirming the success of the enemy's tactic to put the innocent citizens at risk by putting them as human shields, in effect.
That's right.
That's exactly what they want us to do.
And I tell you, it took 20 years in Vietnam to make that mistake.
I don't think we better make that fake in this one.
Well, but I'm interested in your solution.
I'm interested in your solution then.
Well, I just told you a little bit ago, don't get our Americans walking out in there because you know what?
They're sitting ducks.
You know what it's like to walk out there and patrol.
It's like somebody pointing a gun at your head 24 hours a day, and that's ugly.
Okay, and the solution is going to go off, huh?
And the solution is?
The solution is to get those Iraqis out there, the ones that we're training, get them to infiltrate into their armies and pretend like they're them.
And if they run into American patrols, don't shoot at them, shoot over them, pretend like you're shooting at them.
But infiltrate, find out where they're at, and then we use our big bombs to take care of them.
Just like we got, what's his name the other day, that big leader?
That's how they got him.
They found out exactly where it was, and the money was well spent.
It got the man we should get.
But I tell you what, this happened in Vietnam, too.
You get the biggest person and you think you're the greatest in the world, and guess what?
Three months later, they had another one.
Well, you know what?
These people practice in Vietnam.
They practice on all our embassies.
They practice.
They killed 200-some Marines one time.
Remember, some embassy overseas.
They practiced on the 9-11 building.
Remember that?
And then they declared war on us.
You know, you don't declare war on people unless you know for sure you got a good idea you can defeat them.
And they're using the same tactics as Vietnam.
So don't ever cut a Vietnam veteran down, even though we're crazy, because you know what?
We know what we're talking about.
And I'll bet you, those generals that quit the other day, that's why they quit.
You can't do it this way.
All we're doing is taking those soldiers out there and putting their lives on the line.
And that's not good.
Frank, you're going to get a lot of reaction to it, and I appreciate the call.
Frank, you're going to get a lot of reaction.
I appreciate the call.
Let's see whether Frank has touched on something or not when we come back.
I'm Roger Hedgecock on The Rush Show, 1-800-282-2882.
After this, we're back on the Rush Limbaugh program here at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
And even Rush himself has never got John Kerry to call the show as I did, so it's kind of an interesting deal.
Let's get to Ed in Pittsburgh, North Carolina.
Hi, Ed, welcome to the program.
Hey, how's it going?
Okay.
Hey, I just called.
I got two things.
I take exception with the last call, his comparison about dropping bombs in Vietnam and decapitating Navy's heads, and then what's going on in Iraq with the insurgents doing that.
Those are two completely different situations.
He's way off base.
Granted, he's a former Marine, whatever the case is, but it just goes to show, and I don't mean this in a condescending way, how little the American public actually know about warfare and foreign policy.
You know, he's completely off base.
My second comment is this guy, John Merthyr from Pennsylvania, same thing.
I saw him this past Sunday on Meet the Press with Tim Russert, and he was just completely off base when he said, hey, we should pull the troops out of Iraq and move them into the region, Okinawa.
Okinawa is something like 5,000 miles away.
Somebody needs to give him a copy of Where in the World Is Carmen San Diego before he starts commenting on foreign policy.
That's all I got to say.
Thank you.
I'll listen to your comment off.
Ed, I appreciate it.
The Carmen San Diego game, my kids learn geography from.
I understand exactly what you're saying.
There is an interesting Pew Global Attitudes project out which talks about a survey indicating that the rift in attitudes between Muslims and Westerners is growing wider, that Muslims are growing increasingly bitter toward the West and its people, and that vice versa.
Large populations of, well, for instance, let's see, in Spain, 83% of the population associated Muslims with fanaticism.
78% of Germans.
Only 43% of Americans shared that view.
The Muhammad cartoon controversy is pointed out as Western nations' disrespect for Islam.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is not known in the West.
Every newspaper in Muslim countries routinely depicts racist depictions of Jews and Christians and anyone who isn't a Muslim routinely denigrates as violent and oppressive and degenerate and blah, everything about Western culture.
Now, we have all of our faults, which we are proud and happy to debate, discuss, and come up with, but you can't do that in a Muslim world.
There's a reason.
I tried to get this out of Osama in that call.
There's a reason why the good Muslims are not outing the bad Muslims.
There's a reason why in Islam, the most extreme of the folks there advocating the basest violence you can imagine against anybody who isn't them, there's a reason why those people are not shut down, identified, prosecuted, shut down, ostracized, what have you.
It's because the rest of the Muslim world fears that those imams will turn on them.
Remember Osama bin Laden?
His enemies at first were not just the West, the royal family of Saudi Arabia and a bunch of other Muslims that he didn't agree with who weren't Muslim enough for him.
Wow.
All right, here's Raymond in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Hi, Raymond.
Yes, sir.
How are you doing there, Mr. Ryan?
Good.
Yeah, go ahead.
I like when you're a good feeling for Russian.
You're a very intelligent man, but I urge you, I see your emotion is up.
I urge you to read a Quran.
And nowhere in the Holy Quran will you find the mindset in the Quran that what you're looking at with these individuals are doing.
That's not in the religion.
It's no different than what we see, what we have seen in communist country.
And people knew that this was wrong.
The people that spoke up against this, 20 million of them lost their lives in the cause of freedom.
It's no different than what's going on right now with the Bush administration and what he's doing and what the liberals are doing to overhaul this thing.
And I've called our local radio station this morning when I listened to this last night about these individuals that were caught.
And as a black person, I see some of these so-called, what they call themselves, black Muslims, which is not in the Quran.
It's nowhere that it does speak that you're supposed to be an Arab Muslim or Sunni or Shiite.
That's not, that's something they feel like they're a form of a cult.
But anyway, you see these people, they put them on TV every time that there's a problem in the Islamic world.
They bring these so-called Islamic leaders on TV on these stations, and they have some like connective groups with the support of these people.
And this is wrong.
You know, this is not in Islam.
This is just like the individuals that, you know, right now they caught these seven guys in a time of war.
These people tried to do something that would blow up some city, that Chicago Sears Tower.
These people should be put in prison.
These people should be executed.
And most Muslim countries would do that over there, the so-called Muslim countries.
But the real freedom of Islam is not, that shows the Muslim world is not in the West.
I mean, it's not in the East.
The freedom of religion is right here in the United States of America.
So the stuff that we are basically looking at over there and saying, well, why are the Muslim countries or people over there and the Muslim communities want to speak up against it?
They're not free over there.
No, I'm asking the ones in America who are free, why aren't they speaking up against it as Catholics spoke up against the predator priests?
It's just like the liberal media.
Who do you think right now that they would show an example of a Muslim over here?
They go show Louis Farrakhan.
Yeah.
Well, all right, Raymond, we got to run.
I appreciate the call, and we'll get back to it more on the Rush Show.
I'm Roger Hedgecock.
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