All right, now look, some of you people need to calm down out there.
I've been reading the emails here at the top, and you think I'm missing the boat when I say this is not about illegal immigration.
I'm talking to you about the reason that the Democratic Party has glommed onto this and who the organizers are and what their objective.
Of course, it's about illegal immigration.
It's a way to create chaos.
It's a way to tear down the country.
But it's primarily about getting them back in power.
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I am not diminishing the impact of illegal immigration on this.
You should see the emails I got.
You're going off the reservation.
You're being sucked into not believing what this is really.
I'm not being sucked into anything.
I am thinking independently here.
I am not saying illegal immigration is not the problem.
I'm saying it's simply the latest springboard.
It's the latest vehicle.
I know two weeks have been covering this.
I'm just, I'm talking now about the motivations and the opportunity that illegal immigration presents.
Ted Kennedy doesn't really care about these people the way he's speaking to them.
He only cares about them as voters.
And whatever harm illegal immigration en masse would do to the country is of no consequence to him.
In fact, the more chaos, the better.
He can blame it all on the Republicans for their attitudes.
He'll blame the Republicans for creating this angry population group of people.
By the way, I got an interesting note.
I had the call from Weston in Philadelphia who said that Democrats are trying to create the chaos here.
They want the chaos to be created so that the people will eventually throw their hands up in despair and turn to some powerful state or figure to fix it.
And a guy from Sykeston, which is about 30 miles south of where I grew up in Missouri, Cape Girardeau, he said, with all due respect, the caller was wrong about states taking over responsibility given up by the federal government.
He's ignoring history, but I don't think he meant states.
I think he meant the state, the federal government.
But the Greek and Roman empires were destroyed from within by the influx of non-Romans and non-Greeks and apathy about it all.
The great civilizations in history crumbled by a failure of a strong leader to hold together the diverse culture's conqueror.
Will Durant said that.
And so if you wanted to apply that to this, you would have to say that there is no strong leader holding together the country.
And so the great civilization is potentially crumbling because nobody has the guts to stop the evil conqueror.
Now, nobody is saying that illegal immigration represents an evil conqueror.
That would be al-Qaeda.
And Bush, of course, is rallying the country to that.
But this does have its own implications.
Now, just to once again demonstrate that I'm not off the reservation on immigration, let me tell you, it's a very fine line here.
But I have some excerpts from a floor speech made by Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama about the bill.
This is a 500-page bill, and most of the Senate has not even seen it.
They've not read it all.
Perhaps there's staff digging deep and reading it now, but some of the stuff in here is shocking.
Now, what the point of this is, is to show you just how desperate some of these senators are in both parties to try to go out and get the votes of these illegal immigrants.
So yes, it's about illegal immigration, but it's just the vehicle, the wreck that would result is irrelevant right now.
Let me just read some excerpts from this speech.
Describing the bill, this is Jeff Sessions.
Let us take loophole number one.
Absconders and some individuals with felonies or three misdemeanors are not barred from getting amnesty.
An absconder is somebody who was apprehended by Border Patrol people, detained.
They didn't have time to take him or her out of the country.
They were busy.
They didn't have jail space, detention space for them, so they released them on bail.
That is what they do all over the country because we don't take this seriously, and they don't show up when they're supposed to be deported.
Surprise, they abscond.
Absconders and some individuals with felonies or three misdemeanors are not barred from getting amnesty.
Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, different crimes make aliens inadmissible, deportable, or ineligible for specific benefits.
Absconders, aliens with final orders of removal who are currently watched by ICE immigration officers, should not be eligible for amnesty.
They remain eligible for amnesty in this bill.
The Kyle Cornyn Amendment that was blocked by the other side so we couldn't get a vote on it was designed to fix this loophole.
It would keep aliens with felony convictions or three misdemeanors from being eligible for the new amnesty program.
But they're not because they prevented a vote on this.
So absconders and some individuals with felonies or three misdemeanors are not barred from getting amnesty.
You think that's by accident?
It's not by accident when you listen to Mrs. Clinton and other Democrats talk about how we need to extend the vote to convicted felons.
Well, if we're going to extend the vote to convicted felons, and if illegal immigration is all about voting and getting the votes of illegal immigrants, then why the hell are we going to kick out illegal immigrant felons?
Loophole number two, aliens specifically barred from receiving immigration benefits for life because they filed a frivolous asylum application will also be able to receive amnesty.
So it's not just that they are here illegally.
It is if they have committed illegal acts while here illegally, they still will get amnesty in the Senate bill.
Now, if you understand, it's not because, well, it's hard to say it's not because of X, Y, or Z, but it's primarily because this pool of people is looked at two to 10 years from now as a massive voting block by both parties.
Well, mostly Democrats, but some Republicans, just inexplicably here, most of them in the Senate.
Loophole number three, all aliens who are subject to a final order of removal, for some reason you're brought up and the courts ordered you removed from the country.
If you fail to leave pursuant to a voluntary departure agreement, they entered into these agreements and oftentimes people promise to leave and they never leave, or who are subject to the reinstatement of a final order of removal because they illegally re-entered after being ordered removed from the United States are also eligible for amnesty.
So if you've been ordered to leave and you haven't left, if you've been ordered to leave because it's been adjudged that you have violated the laws of the country, you still get amnesty under the Senate bill.
It makes total sense, Mr. Snerdley, when you understand my whole point.
It makes total sense when you understand the objective of the people who wrote this bill.
The Republicans and Democrats who wrote this bill, they don't want any of these people to ever leave, and they want these people to know that they, the ones in the Senate, the Republicans and Democrats, are the reason that they are being basically insulated from any law in this country short of murder.
But there are six loopholes.
This, just the first three.
Sessions says after mentioning this in his four speech, I call on my colleagues to look at the bill.
On page 353, line 3, the bill clearly states that any alien with a final order of removal can apply for amnesty.
This means that the aliens who have already received their day in court, have had their case fully litigated, and they have been ordered removed and have failed to depart will now be rewarded for not following the law and leaving like they were ordered to do.
They will qualify for this amnesty.
Don't say it makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense when you understand the objective of the writers of the legislation.
Here's loophole number four.
Aliens who illegally entered the country multiple times are also eligible for amnesty.
Page 334, line 8, requires continuous physical presence and states that an alien must not have departed from the United States before April 5th, 2006, except for brief, casual, or innocent departures.
Every time the alien re-enters the United States illegally, they're committing a criminal offense, but this bill rewards those aliens with amnesty also.
Loophole number five.
This bill allows aliens who have persecuted anyone on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion to get amnesty.
It fails to make persecutors ineligible for amnesty.
I would have thought that was an oversight till I noticed on page 363, line 22, that the bill makes those heinous acts, bar aliens here between two and five years for amnesty, but not those who have been here longer.
The same bar left out for the 8.8 million who have been here for more than five years.
This will be interpreted as an intentional decision of Congress when we pass this bill.
This is not inadvertent.
I don't know why they did that.
Aliens who have persecuted anyone on account of race, religion, nationality.
Pointy, you go try any of this in Mexico and you're in jail.
I read with you, I read to you the Limbaugh laws not long ago.
Maybe time to go through those again at some point if you can find that, print the file.
Loophole number six, there is no continuous presence or continuous work requirement for amnesty.
To be eligible to adjust from illegal to legal status under the bill, the alien must simply have been physically present in the United States on April 5th, 2001, and have been employed continuously in the United States for three of the five years since that date.
The bill does not say employed continuously in the United States since that date, as some have said.
It does not require that employment be full-time, which means that it will be interpreted by any fair court following the law to mean that the alien will be eligible for amnesty if they have been employed in the United States either full-time, part-time, seasonally, or self-employed.
Loophole number seven, the bill tells the Department of Homeland Security to accept, quote, just and reasonable inferences, unquote, from day labor centers as evidence of an alien meeting the bill's work requirements.
So DHS has to accept inferences, not evidence, that an alien is actually working.
Under the bill, an alien can conclusively establish that he was employed in the United States, and it can be either full, part-time, seasonally, or self-employed by presenting documents from Social Security, Internal Revenue Service, or an employer related to employment.
The alien meets the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that the alien has satisfied the requirements if the alien can demonstrate such employment as a matter of just, reasonable inference.
Now, if you can just have a reasonable inference that you have worked and get a document from a day labor center, you meet the work requirements.
Everybody will meet it.
No illegal alien will left behind.
The bill then states this.
It is the intent of Congress that the work requirement be interpreted and implemented in a manner that recognizes and takes into account the difficulties encountered by aliens in obtaining evidence and employment due to the undocumented status of the alien.
The invitation is there to abuse the system.
The invitation for fraud is clear.
The INS, the Department of Homeland Security has to accept by inference.
In other words, folks, this is blanket amnesty and there's no requirements and there are few restrictions whatsoever.
Loophole number eight.
The bill benefits only those who broke the law, not those who followed it and got work visas to come to the United States.
That's a plain fact.
If you were here legally on or before April 5th, 2001, you will not get the benefit of this amnesty.
This amnesty benefits you only if you came here illegally.
Now imagine that.
Loophole number nine, the essential worker permanent immigration program for non-agriculture low-skilled workers leaves no illegal alien out.
It is not limited to people outside the U.S. who want to come here to work in the future, but includes illegal aliens currently present in the U.S. who do not qualify for the amnesty program in Title VI, including aliens here for less than two years.
Under the bill language, you can qualify for this new program to work as a low-skilled, permanent immigrant, even if you are unlawfully present in the United States.
Now, I read you this, ladies and gentlemen, A, because I wanted you to know what Sessions said in his floor speech, the details of the bill.
So you're not confused when I say it's not about illegal immigration.
It, of course, is.
Look at how the whole concept of our immigration process is being destroyed, wrecked.
It's being rendered worthless, all for the purposes of the empowerment of this country's left, the socialists, the anti-conservatives, whoever, the Democratic Party.
And this is the extent to which they are willing to go in order to try to put back together a coalition of voters, and they don't care who they are or where they've come from.
They doesn't matter to them.
The poorer, the dumber, the better.
And they are so willing to wreck the nation's national security with their position on the war in Iraq and the war on terror.
Now they're willing to wreck the immigration system with the help of some foolhardy Republicans who, for some reason, have this fear of alienating these people and making them mad.
This is what they're willing to do in order to get their power back, hopefully again to never lose it.
And that's what's inspiring and motivating this.
And that's the point that I have been drilling and pounding home all glorious broadcast day.
We will be back in a moment.
Okay, some audio soundbites.
I'll get to your phone calls in the next half hour, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's go to yesterday, the immigration rally in Washington at the National Mall.
This is a portion of Senator Kennedy's remarks.
He had his translator out there.
He looks out over the masses, the huddled, suffering, starving, thirsting masses, and he tells them he sees the future of America.
The funny thing about this is that he's got this translator out there.
He pauses every sentence, translator translates it.
And then near the end of his remarks here, he says something and encourages the assembled masses to repeat what he says.
And they don't even wait for the translator to repeat it because most of them speak English.
Here's the bit.
Let me ask you some questions.
Are you ready?
Are you ready?
Stop the tape.
Do you hear the translator asking them if they are ready in Spanish?
No.
They're not Spanish.
They're not Spanish.
They may be bilingual, but these are not the people that you have been led to believe they are, ladies and gentlemen.
Do you have a good job?
Stop the tape.
Stop the tape.
Stop.
You hear this.
I want to play the cue this back to the beginning, Mike, because he asks them, do you have a good job?
They say no before the translator even translates this.
So you see what this is.
Okay, listen to it.
Now that you know what's happening, listen for the crowd to respond before the translator responds to what Senator Kennedy is saying.
Let me ask you some questions.
Are you ready?
Are you ready?
Do you have a good job?
All right, so I'll tell you what, they've all, well, no, I think they don't have good jobs.
It's hard to tell.
I mean, they answer the questions the way Senator Kennedy wants them answered.
I mean, he says, do you have a good job?
They were shouting no.
Of course, they must not have jobs, period.
What are they doing there in such numbers?
It's too bad, you know, that this translator wasn't there when Senator Kennedy was making a speech at the Clinton rally.
See if we can get that.
I don't see it on the soundbite list here.
Let's see if we can get that because if he'd had a translator, we might today understand what it was Senator Kennedy was saying when he was introducing Bill Clinton at a rally.
I think this is back in 1995.
We'll have that for you in the next segment because if you haven't heard that, it's hilarious.
We have another Kennedy bite, but there's not enough time to squeeze this one in before the break.
So, Mike, are we working on getting the Kennedy bit?
Have it for right after the break.
Yeah, this is everybody thinks they know what he is saying.
I've had people, oh, I know what he's saying, Rush.
He's not saying anything, but it would have been fun to have a translator there, nevertheless, to see what the translator came up with.
Well, if you haven't heard it, we'll play it for you.
If you have, you will revel in reliving this great moment from about 10 years ago.
Yo, Rushbo, back after this.
Stay right where you are.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Appreciate that.
Never get tired of having that said.
We're here on the EIB network.
And before we get to Senator Kennedy, folks, you remember, last week we had what we thought was a new trend in SUV updates.
And SUV actually gave its life in Utah so that a family could survive in an avalanche.
The family was from St. Louis.
And we actually have one of the members of the family from St. Louis on the phone.
This is Mary Beth, whose life was spared.
A life was spared by the brilliant sacrifice of the SUV.
Thank you for calling us.
Hi, Rush.
How are you?
Fine.
It is such an honor to talk to you.
We have been longtime listeners since I was in college back in 92.
So it's been a long time.
Yeah, I don't know if you've seen any pictures of the SUV, but it was completely demolished, and that we all walked away without a scratch is just a testimony to that awesome vehicle.
And those engineers should be really proud of the vehicle he built because it performed incredibly.
We were just so slammed by that avalanche.
Well, you plunged 100 feet from what the story I had said.
Yes.
100 feet and the SUV ended up on its hood.
You had all the children strapped in the seatbelts, and everybody got out.
They were a little shaken up, but everybody survived.
The SUV died.
Yes, exactly.
I mean, it hit and broke every window on the passenger side, and the snow started to fill the car, and then we were airborne and landed, you know, and it fell a little more on us, and then we were able to, those boys were big heroes, and they truly were the heroes.
You know, they kicked out the window and got all our kids out and helped us get them up the mountain.
But, you know, if we wouldn't have been in a car like that, we would have never survived.
That car performed so well.
And even one of the boys had said after he met us at the airport when we were leaving that he drives a small car, and he's thinking about getting a bigger car.
I mean, a small car would have never survived it.
Nope, that's true.
Nor would you.
Yes.
We feel so blessed.
I mean, not one stitch.
Everyone was climbed out of there.
Well, I know, well, you're very fortunate because most SUVs, some of them have turned on their passengers, and for some reason, yours loved you.
I guess, well, maybe it was because I'm a ditto head.
You're absolutely right about this, in terms of the quality and the design of these vehicles.
Why won't you tell us what kind it was?
It was a Nissan Armada.
A Nissan Armada.
Yes, and Nissan should be so proud of that because I don't think you can really test for this.
And we were so pummeled.
It was just so, you know, just an assault on your senses, pretty much.
Are you going to get another one?
I drive an SUV now.
It's a different brand, but I'm very partial now to Nissan.
Well, I don't blame you at all.
And it's great that you called.
It's great that you heard about this.
And we're all so happy that your family survived this because it was a hundred-foot plunge in an avalanche.
That's hard to imagine even going through.
Yeah.
So all the best to you, Mary Beth.
Thank you.
You bet.
It's my pleasure.
You know, can I be honest with you people about something?
Did you hear what she said at the beginning of the phone call?
She said, I've been listening to you since 1992.
When I first heard of this, when I hear of, how do I explain this to you people without you thinking I've lost touch?
Whenever anybody in this country is in a news story, I know that they are listeners.
I just know it.
I know that every time I talk about somebody in a news story, that they are listening.
It's like this guy whose dog died, Jake, over in the west coast of Florida.
His dog was a big fan.
Dog dies, I'm in the story.
So it's a flattering thing.
It just is.
All right, here's now Senator K.
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And no, Ed Anchor's not the reporter.
Nigel Fleming did the great work.
And this is the publication that had me, I don't know how they found out about it, had me meeting with aliens in New Orleans back in the early 90s.
The aliens were trying to get me to run for president.
And no, I know you didn't leak it.
We don't know who leaked it.
They had pictures.
They had pictures and they splashed them all over the cover.
Here's Ted Kennedy, October 20th, 1994, on the campaign trail in Massachusetts.
This is the bite where it would be really helpful if he had a translator.
Is this Clinton country?
It needs to be done for the next two and a half weeks.
And we elect Mark Roosevelt as our governor.
And you reelect the United States Senate.
We're going to start on the 96 campaign to elect Bill Clinton as a re-elect.
I love that every time I hear this.
Now, we also have this on a repeater.
We've edited it so that it repeats, but we so far in our massive computer library have been unable to find that.
But we will before the program's over if it survived our move to hard drive digital.
I'm sure that it did.
Now, back to Senator Kennedy at the immigration rally in Washington yesterday.
These are remarks without the translator.
Some in Congress want to turn America away from its true spirit.
They believe immigrants are criminals and they're wrong.
They believe any of us who help immigrants, even our priests, are criminals too.
They're wrong again.
They say you should report to deport.
I say report and become American citizens.
And remember what this is, this is these are people supposedly the illegal immigrant population.
They understand a lot of English in this crowd, which what does it tell you?
It tells you that most of these people are just the average, usual random mob members from the American left.
I'm sure there's a sizable component here of illegal aliens, but Senator Kennedy, as are all the people on the left, lying to these people about what the bill is about.
Here now is Senator Kennedy once again invoking the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King and talking about the new civil rights movement.
More than four decades ago, near this place, Martin Luther King called on the nation to let freedom ring.
Freedom did ring, and freedom can ring again.
It's time for Americans to lift their voices now in pride for our immigrant past and in pride for our immigrant future.
We stand for the future.
We stand for our families.
We stand for our faith.
And I stand with you and you and you and you.
Are you with me?
Here's the big finish.
Teddy's big finish begs the aliens to support the Democrats.
And then he ends up with some unintelligible Spanish.
John McCain and I have a plan.
It's a strong plan.
It's a fair plan.
It's a plan for America's future.
And you support us.
And you support us.
We will never give in.
He just reminds me of Tom Harkin at the Wellstone Memorial.
Say it for Paul!
Paul!
Say it for Paul!
Paul!
Will you do it for Paul?
Paul!
Will you give it up for Paul?
Paul!
They've got, I mean, even the same speech patterns at all of these rallies.
Finally, ladies and gentlemen, we've put together a little montage of Senator Kennedy speaking in Español.
Buenos Tardes, gracias por darmela, upper to the dock, deosta, and esta evento.
Y gracias por demanda, judistia para todos los immigrantes.
Esta la victoria!
See senior!
This is, folks, that is so obvious what's happening out there.
This ought to wake all of you up.
It's a combination of events, a confluence of events going on.
But here on the Democratic side, absolutely no concern for the laws of the land whatsoever, and just pandering here to what they hope will be an eventual block of voters.
And let me tell you why.
Their outreach efforts have failed to persuade Americans to vote for them.
They are losing elections.
They're losing national elections.
They know that they have done nothing in the last five years to build and swell their ranks in this country.
And so they need to legalize felon voting.
And they need these illegal immigrants from outside the country, a new victim class, a new class of poor people that Democrats can anoint with victim status and make them their charges, their wards of the state, repopulate the unions, which are diminishing.
What you ultimately have here is a dying political party, a dying movement, desperately trying to hang on, to regain its power, and doing so in ways that will practically ensure their doom down the road.
That's the bottom line.
Quick timeout.
Back with more.
Your phone call straight ahead after this.
Mr. Commissar is back.
Portland, Oregon, as we go back to the phones of the EIB network.
Hello, Janet.
Great to have you with us.
Hello, Rush Pumba.
This is the first time that I called.
I've been listening to you for the past week and a half.
And it sounds like you're a conservative person.
And I've been, I am conservative too.
I voted Republican before, and I will continue to do so as long as they still reserve their conservative values.
But I wanted to say that.
There's always a waiting for the butt.
Yes.
Sorry?
I said, I was waiting for the butt.
And you got there.
So waiting for that.
And what I wanted to say is that you're coming across, like I said, I'm a Hispanic American, and you're coming across like you don't want any Hispanics at all in this country.
I am a Hispanic.
I'm very proud of being Hispanic American.
But I also have black hair.
And when I go out, people look at us different now because of all these things that are going on.
And I also wanted to say that I was brought to this country when I was young.
And I studied here, and I worked here, and now I'm a...
What do you do?
What do I do?
What do you do, yeah?
I have my own business, and we own real estate.
And what I'm trying to say is that we can't generalize that these people would be convicts in the future or would not be prosperity, would not bring prosperity or bring income to the country, which they already do anyway.
Wait, wait.
I'm very much flattered that you found a program a week and a half ago, and I'm really impressed that you're a Republican and you voted Republican and you're going to keep voting Republican.
But in the first place, Janet, let me be frank with you here.
I have never once said that I don't want any Hispanics in this country.
I have never even implied it.
The whole concept of that statement is so foreign to me that I haven't even thought it.
Now, I don't know whether you actually heard me say this or, well, you didn't, but you think you're hearing me or somebody's called to ask you to call here and say this.
One of the two.
You also, if you think that I have said that everybody coming to the country as a convict will be a convict, you're not listening.
I was reading excerpts of the Senate bill reforming immigration, quote unquote, and what I was reading to you was a speech from Jeff Sessions, a senator from Alabama, who was detailing how the current bill allows current illegals who are here who are violators of the law.
The word convict was not even used still get amnesty.
I have never said everybody that comes here is going to be a criminal in terms of their activity.
I have said everybody here illegally is already a criminal according to the laws of the country.
But this is not an anti-Hispanic bias.
You know, these, I don't even think this is about immigration, Janet.
I think this is people looking for jobs, and you've got people in Congress who are seeking to take advantage of whatever is going on in order to get their votes down the road.
They're purely pandering to them.
They're not helping them.
They're not serving them.
They're going to stigmatize them with this bill if something like this ever gets signed into law.
But I have no anti-Hispanic bias.
It's absurd to think so.
And I'm sorry you called here and shared that.
I don't know how you're getting that idea.
You're drawing that conclusion because, as I say, I haven't even inferred it, or rather implied it.
Here's Val in Sanibel, Florida.
You're next on the program.
Nice to have you with us.
Hi, Rush.
It's a pleasure.
I actually called because I'm very disappointed in my Conservative Party about once again allowing this issue to be labeled as racist.
I actually called to complain to you and all conservatives to fight this, but I'm going to speak directly to your last caller.
I am a businesswoman owned and managed companies for the last 20 years.
I am white.
I live in Florida.
25% of my current workforce is Mexican, legal Mexican.
I pay them $35,000 to $45,000 a year.
Now, I will not hire illegals of any color or creed.
And the problem is this.
Ten years ago, we had another huge wave of illegal immigration into this country.
And nobody said a word, and our government didn't enforce it.
And business owners like me, we did abide by the law.
And if you remember, Rush, it was the Eastern Bloc, Europeans, white Russians and Czechoslovakians.
So I'm going to tell you a very brief story from one white American business person.
Okay, Val, Val, Val, I know that you're very compelling, and I want to hear the story, and I don't have to interrupt you in the middle of it, and I'm going to have to go here in about 30 seconds if I don't go now.
So can you hold on?
Yeah.
And tell us, okay, good.
I appreciate it because you are making a tremendous amount of sense in speaking in a very professional, educated, and compelling manner.
Be back and continue.
You bet.
Be back in just a moment.
Harry Reid's image is taking a hit in his home state of Nevada.
Since he was re-elected in 2004, the percentage of Nevadans who view Harry Reid favorably has dropped by 10 percentage points, while the number who view him unfavorably has increased 14 points.
I had that up to be a 24-point swing in the case of Dingy Harry.
Now, Val of Sanibel, Florida is holding on.
We'll get to her in the opening segment of the usual monologue segment, the beginning of each hour, right after we come back and listen to her compelling story.