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April 6, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 6, 2006, Thursday, Hour #2
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Media going gaga over this New York Sun's story today that Bush authorized the leak to the New York Times.
This is not about Well, I'll get into it in a minute.
There's nothing illegal about what Bush did.
They're just trying to discredit that lying skunk Joe Wilson.
At any rate, we'll get to all that in due course.
Cynthia McKinney, uh grand jury looking into her uh socking that uh Capitol Hill cop.
By the way, greetings, folks, the Rush Limbaugh program.
I know you know that because of my distinct, highly trained broadcast specialist voice, but uh I still feel compelled to say welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
I love saying my own name.
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So Cynthia McKinney went to the floor of the House today to uh say she was sorry.
Uh did she admit what she did?
Just did she just sorry for the encounter?
Did she did she admit striking the guy?
There are three witnesses that are going to be called before the grand jury that claim eyewitnesses claim they saw this.
But here's why this happened.
John Lewis, Democrat Georgia, other members of the Congressional Black Caucus, told McKinney to back off.
That's in the Hill newspaper today.
Uh Lewis said, I told her she needs to lower the temperature, stop holding the press conferences.
I don't think it had any impact because she's still going on all these TV shows.
Dana Milbank in the Washington Post writes today that Democrats were just beginning to dream about the possibility of taking control of the House as Republican unity collapsed over spending and immigration, Iraq and lobbying scandals and all that when McKinney had her dust up with the cops and responded with a charge of racial profiling.
So they're they Well, I would have loved to have been in a meeting and and seen whoever it was that read her the riot act and told her she's going to go to the floor and apologize.
That had to be some meeting.
So they say that three witnesses, uh eyewitnesses are going to be called and testifies to what happened.
Soon we'll know the breakthrough of this.
Uh speaking of breakthroughs, the immigration breakthrough bill this morning, uh there's a there's a there's how many of you have gone out and rented a DVD?
I don't rent them because you have to take them back.
My time's more valuable, so I buy them.
And you put the DVD in there, and here comes this giant blue warning, FBI.
You could go to jail for five years and be fined a quarter of a million dollars for copying that DVD, and you don't even have to sell it to anybody.
You don't even have to, you just give it away.
You just distribute it beyond your copy, and boy, if they find out about you, you I mean, Hollywood's lost billions of dollars because it's called piracy.
Same thing happens with CDs, but DVDs, they're the ones that have the big warning on there.
Well, using the current breakthrough immigration bill as a model, I think we can now fix the illegal bootleg problems with DVDs and CDs.
Here's how it'll work.
You know, Hollywood's gonna demand a similar problem-solving bill because they've lost so much money on piracy.
It's been going on for years, and now we've got this model uh to have a similar breakthrough.
A legal pathway is now possible.
Billions of dollars are at stake here.
There's an out-of-control bootleg problem going on.
Maybe millions of people are guilty of breaking the law.
If you have copied a DVD, you know who you are.
And it's not that hard to do.
Millions of you have done it.
Millions of you have broken that law.
Millions of you are running the risk of being tracked down by the FBI, fined 250 grand, and perhaps facing imprisonment of five years.
And you're not, doesn't matter.
You're undaunted.
You continue to do this despite the threats, despite the warnings on the front of every DVD, when you put it in the machine, it's getting worse every day.
Now, we can't grant amnesty to all the lawbreakers around the world, but we do have to be careful.
We don't want to upset China regarding their illegal bootleggers and bootleg products because they invest in America.
They have a lot of treasury securities, a lot of our national debt uh is is uh bought by China.
Plus, we have a lot of economic agreements with China.
We cannot afford to make the Chinese mad by enforcing the bootleg in piracy laws when it comes to DVD.
And we don't want to make the French mad because at some point a Democrat's gonna be president again and they'll become our favored allies in the war on terror.
Uh we don't, but but but so we don't want to upset China.
We don't uh we don't want to upset France uh any more than we want to upset Mexico regarding illegal immigrants.
So we have to do this right.
So here's my plan.
All of those of you who have made or bought bootleg DVDs or CDs, and let's go back, let's include VHS tapes, because before the DVD came along, that was people are copying those things left and right too.
If if if you have made or bought bootleg DVDs, CDs or VHS tapes more than six years ago, you have to turn yourselves in now and pay a $100 fine.
Just show up to the FBI and say, I'm guilty.
I did it and I want to pay my $100 fine.
If you uh you no, you know whatever language you show up will be fine.
You don't have to necessarily show up and speak English.
You can you can be, you can you can speak any language as long as you you know just show up and you did it.
I mean, bring the DVDs that you've copied, bring the evidence.
Uh if if you don't turn yourselves in, uh then you do this at great risk because we have enforcement mechanisms here.
We we're gonna find you just as we found you the past six years, which means we're not gonna find you.
But we want you to turn yourselves in and admit that you've been illegally copying and bootlegging DVDs and all the rest.
Now we'll take your word for it when you tell us that you broke the law.
But we know everybody's gonna be honest about that.
We know that when we grant this amnesty program, that all of you who have violated the law are gonna come forward immediately and pay your $100 fine and not fear being pursued ever again.
Now, it's different for those of you who made or purchased bootleg products more than six years ago, or less than six years ago.
You have to turn yourself in, you have to pay a fine, you have to promise not to do it again, and then you're good to go.
And if you don't do this, we'll find you and we'll lock you up like we're doing so well right now with the illegal immigrant problem.
So if you've been doing these DVD hijackings uh uh you know for longer than six years, uh then you know turn yourself in and pay a hundred dollar fine.
If you've been doing it less than six years, uh turn yourself in and pay a hundred dollar fine and and promise never to do it again.
And uh uh if you if you do want to do it again, then you've got to go through the legal process of of bootlegging.
Uh there is a pathway to legal bootlegging, and we'll show you what it is at the FBI.
Anybody who has made or purchased bootleg DVDs or CDs or VHS tapes within the last two years, that you are the real targets, just as we are targeting recent illegal immigrants.
We're gonna get you.
You the you who have only been doing this for two years, we're gonna really get you.
Uh you better turn yourself in or we're really gonna do something because enough is enough.
Watch your back.
I mean, we're gonna get you.
Just like we've gotten all these other bootleggers, we're gonna get you.
I mean, and we could do this with guns.
We could do this with virtually any illegal activity that uh that we want.
And uh Hollywood, you think Hollywood be satisfied with this deal?
Hundred dollar fine and basically the permission to keep doing it because we're not because we're not gonna track you down because we can't.
Anyway, I love solving problems, folks.
As I say, we don't just we don't just screech and moan and whine on this program.
We actually offer solutions.
A brief uh timeout, back with more in just a moment.
Did you see where NBC tried to set up and screw NASCAR?
I guess it's not enough that it goes out and blow up a truck on on Dateline.
Did you hear about this?
What they did, uh I'll get the it's in the stack here someplace.
I just saw something on TV reminding me of it.
They they went to a NASCAR race.
You have to understand what the mainstream press looks at NASCAR as just a bunch of hayseed southern rodeo hicks with Bibles and guns in the back of the pickup truck that are out there in the parking lot.
And they just they they they see these people as a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, dumb, stupid hayseeds who have elected Republicans.
So they uh they went to a NASCAR race and they hired a bunch of Arab looking guys to walk through the crowd with an NBC camera trailing close behind, hoping that these hayseed hicks would start shouting out bigoted racist insults, treating them like terrorists, maybe mob them, maybe kill them, thinking that they were terrorists, blowing up the race track.
And the NASCAR people are you know, I mean, NBC televises NASCAR.
They're a broadcast partner.
They're a business partner with NASCAR.
And here comes their news unit or dateline unit.
Was it Dateline, I think, or whatever, going out there trying to do this, and they were this is classic.
It's it's it's just it's it's common, trying to create news rather than reporting what actually happened.
They wanted to cause an incident.
And they they do this in a lot of instances.
They've local news has tried this.
They've they've uh they've snuck Arab-looking guys out on a tarmac at uh at airports, small airports, just to see what the hayseed operator, the small airport, will do, grab the shotgun and start firing away and say, You're not blowing up my airport abdul.
PAL.
They wanted they they want they're trying to create a scene like this.
Anyway, I was wondering what Cynthia McKinney had to say, and she apologized, and uh this this is it.
I come before this body to personally express again my sincere regret about the encounter with the Capitol Hill Police.
I appreciate my colleagues who are standing with me, who love this institution and who love this country.
There aren't any.
There should not have been any physical contact in this incident.
Aha.
I have always supported law enforcement and will be voting for HR 756, expressing my gratitude and appreciation to the professionalism and dedication of the men and women of the U.S. Capitol Police.
I am sorry that this misunderstanding happened at all.
Oh and I regret its escalation.
Oh.
And I apologize.
Oh.
So she's apologizing for the misunderstanding.
And she's apologizing the escalation.
And she wants to thank all the members that stood behind her.
Ha.
You know how many that is?
Zero.
Why do you think she went out there and is apologizing?
All right, I promised yesterday, you Libs out there are going to love this, because in your one of your Bibles in the Washington Post.
Headline, Smart Talk and Girly Talk on the Campaign Trail.
Forget the Swiftboat ads.
The economy, international terrorism, here's what really may have decided the last presidential election.
President Bush and Vice President Cheney sounded more presidential than their Democratic counterparts.
Senator John Kerry seemed the most depressed or suicidal, and Kerry's running mate, Senator John Edwards, nicknamed by me the Breck Girl, sounded the most like a girly man.
I love this because you libs out there think Bush is the biggest blithering idiot that you have ever seen, and he came across as the smartest guy in the room, according to some researchers at the University of Texas at Austin.
They collected transcripts of 271 televised interviews and news conferences, town hall meetings, and candidate debates in 2004.
The speech samples, more than 400,000 words in all, were run through a computer text analysis program.
The team included lead author Richard Slatcher, a doctoral candidate in psychology, and Professor James Pennebaker.
Now the key to their study is previous research that has identified subtle but distinctive linguistic patterns and words that, for example, differentiate the way men and women speak.
Let there be no disagreement that there are differences in the way men and women speak.
That might be a good cover story for Time magazine.
Men and women actually talk differently.
Specifically, they rated each candidate's use of language along six dimensions, Cognitive complexity, marked by sophisticated sentence structure and word choice, femininity, use of words and speech patterns favored by women, depression, use of words that are markers for depression or known indicators of being prone to suicide,
age, preference for words favored by young or old people, presidentiality, this is speech patterns and frequently occurring words favored by presidents since FDR In their speeches, and honesty, and this is based on analyses of samples of truthful and deceptive language.
Dick Cheney easily sounded the smartest of the four, while Edwards and Bush favored the least sophisticated language patterns.
Slatcher and his colleagues report this forthcoming issue of Journal of Research and Personality.
But when it came to sounding presidential, both Bush and Cheney scored considerably higher than Kerry or Edwards.
Bush was the oldest sounding candidate.
Edwards was also the most likely to use feminine speech patterns and female words.
And Cheney sounded most like a man's man.
The vice president sounded the most honest of the four.
John Kerry sounded the least honest.
Now, this is not to say that Kerry was the least, just the way he sounded with this computer analysis that these guys did.
Kerry's language also was most like that of a depressed person.
Followed by Edwards.
Well, that makes total sense.
These people are running around.
Their platform is be depressed.
Their platform is doom and gloom.
Their platform is negativity.
It's like we played that audio soundbite from Steve McMahon, Democrat strategist earlier this week.
Guys out there saying Americans have lost hope for the future of their country.
That's such a la total lack of understanding of what the essence of being an American is.
The quintessential American character is optimism.
Otherwise, we wouldn't be upset when our economy goes into downturns or recessions because we have higher expectations than that.
And we demand something be done about it.
We always think that our kids are going to have better lives than we had, and it's always been true.
Natural optimism.
The can do spirit.
There's more opportunity for economic prosperity and whatever else you want anywhere in the world in this country.
And for the Democrats running around, they want to paint a picture of soup line America, doom and gloom, no hope.
It's beyond me why they do this.
Unless that's who they really are.
But if if this is a conceived strategy, it's just absurd.
So it doesn't surprise me that an honest analysis of speech and the way people speak would conclude that Carrie and Edwards were the most depressed of the four.
Perhaps that's inevitable.
After all, challengers have to sound gloomy and doomy about their opponents' records, though in doing so they run clear risk.
They don't have to sound doom and gloomy about their records.
You know what?
What amazes me about this, I had um big big bash last Wednesday that I told you about at my house, is that there was a couple Democrats there.
One of them came up to me and said, if you if you were in charge of the Democratic Party, what would you do?
I said, well, I say every I give them this advice every day on the radio, and I know they're not going to listen to it, but when it comes to the war, understand we're gonna win.
We're the United States, we're gonna win this war.
Maybe a while.
It would seem to me you guys would want to get yourself on the side that when we win it, you can claim victory rather than having to continue running against it and lie about the victory and hope for defeat.
Who do you think you're selling when you want us to lose?
When you're investing in defeat, you know who in the world do you think you're appealing to?
When it comes to the economy, I don't care what the economic circumstances is.
If I were your are if I were your party, I'd be saying I could do even better.
I wouldn't be hoping for doom and gloom.
I wouldn't want people to think there's no hope for their future, whether you want to blame it on Bush or whatever.
I I went through a whole series of things like this, and he just stared, stroked his chin.
Hmm, hmm.
And then he ran off to a phone.
So I don't know who he called.
But uh anyway, this thing concludes.
Voters are most favorable toward those candidates who are the most optimistic, Slatcher said.
The depressive language that Carrie and Edwards used during the campaign may have contributed negatively to the way in which they were perceived by the public.
No.
That's a giant duh moment, and it's only gotten worse.
It's gotten worse last five years.
Every time they lose, they come to a conclusion they haven't got their message out, so they start getting even angrier.
Then they get full of more and more rage.
And then they get their base, they've turned their base of voters into an absolute cesspool of absolute lunacy.
These people are unstable.
They're enraged.
They are, they're just all out of sorts.
So Edwards sounded like a girly man, doesn't surprise me.
Looks like a girly man.
The break, he looks like one.
They didn't factor looks into it, but Kerry, I don't think I've ever seen John Kerry look happy, and when he smiles, it's so unique.
They stop everything and declare it Halloween.
I mean, I I I just you never see any happiness from any of these people.
Dingy Harry, Nancy Pelosi.
When's the last Democrat you saw that looked genuinely happy, other than Ted Kennedy at Happy Hour?
And whoever really sees that, other than Chris Doddwinner in the middle of a waitress sandwich.
Or the waitresses in the middle of the whatever.
Uh quick timeout, folks.
We'll be back.
Stay with your phone calls are coming next.
I have not forgotten you.
Okay, and we're back, half my brain tied behind my back, just to make it fair to Los Angeles.
This is Elizabeth, and it's great to have you on the program, huh?
You might not think that in a minute.
I'm not giving my mega ditto shout out today because Rush I disagree with every single thing that you have said about illegal immigration.
Okay, well now wait a second.
Wait, wait, just I understand that, but that you can still make a ditto me because ditto's doesn't mean you agree.
Ditto's just means you like the show.
And you hope it never ends.
I'm I'm not liking it today.
I I I can't stand the way that you sound today.
It's driving me absolutely crazy.
And it's not just you, it's all of them, you guys on the radio these pa these past couple of weeks.
It it sounds so misinformed that it's not even funny.
If that bill doesn't pass and those Republicans filibuster that bill, you are gonna split this party straight down the middle between those of us who are Wall Street Journal Republicans and those of us who or those of you guys who sound like Pat Buchanan crazy Republicans.
You all got you you've got to be able to do it.
Elizabeth, you're absolutely you're hitting below the belt now.
I I'm sorry.
I am so sorry, but that's exactly what you guys are sounding like.
Not only misinformed, but you sound loony.
Nothing that you've said actually makes any sense about the assimilation thing.
None of that happened in the past.
Wait, wait, no, no, no, be very, very careful here.
Because that the the what I said about the assimilation thing, that is a problem.
There are two groups that we're talking about here.
I uh what what amazes me is that that you don't want to draw any distinction between illegal and legal.
Oh no, no, no, no.
Yes, I do.
Oh, yeah.
All I'm talking about is the illegal side.
Yes, so am I. Well when Reagan made all those illegals legal, they upgraded, there was a huge look at the Department of Labor study.
There was a huge increase in job training skills because money means everything.
When they became legal, they were able, it restored their bargaining power, and they were able to upgrade their skills, and they made more money.
They they invested in language skills so that they can speak English, because speaking English means more money.
That's exactly what happened.
Uh I'm glad that happened.
You're gonna let me respond, or you just want to keep hitting below the belt here.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Well, thank you.
You are not troubled at all by the fact that the illegals are being made legal simply because nobody wants to do anything about it.
Others in the pathway that are going through the legal process, it takes years, it takes effort.
There's a difference.
I see, that's why I don't think that when the illegals we're talking about, we're not even talking about assimilation or immigration.
These are just people looking for work.
And and I have no problem with the people wanting a job, but we've got two distinct patterns that we uh are using here to to to let people in the country.
One of them's clearly wrong and illegal, there's no disincentive to it.
And uh the lack of assimilation is a problem.
It most certainly is.
And they're the the the recent crisis different different period than it was twenty years ago.
Twenty years ago we're talking about four million, now we're talking about twelve.
It's gonna keep getting worse and worse and worse.
They're not assimilating because they're illegal.
Uh there's no incentive for them to assimilate.
That's every single thing.
I don't believe you guys have.
Every single one is because they're not.
I don't believe what I'm hearing from you.
So let's just have no limits then on immigration.
Anybody who wants to come in the minute they cross the border, they're legal.
That's the that's the let me tell you what I'm really worried about, Rush.
All right, tell me.
Let me tell you that the Republicans suck.
They suck at trying to convince the American people to change social security, to change the welfare state, to change all of that.
And you guys, you baby boomers are about to retire, you're about to become too old to work.
And if those Republicans even so much look cross-eyed at taking one single cent off my dinner table to pay for a problem they've been knowing they've had for a long time, they're gone.
Not they're totally gone.
And if we don't get more workers in here, I'm gonna have to pay for it.
Well, wait a minute, you better explain that.
I uh you're you're let me see if I if I understand.
Would you, by the way, the uh you you guys in there, you guys hello.
Uh the transcriber line is down.
Uh I'm having trouble following all of what it's not your it's not your problem here, Elizabeth.
Sometimes my hearing is difficult with the depending on phone lines.
Uh and I've lost the transcription connection of people transcribing your call, but uh uh the the uh uh I think what you said was you got made the Republican Party is wrong.
The Republican Party's rotten, it's bad, and start again from there.
Why?
No.
I said this is what I'm worried about.
Yes.
There that it's it's very bad that there's a legal workers who are having to go through the the process, they're doing it like everybody else, la la la la la, but they're not doing it fast enough, and we don't have enough legal workers.
We don't kind of jobs.
I am gonna have to pay for that.
Wait a minute.
What kind of so this is all a selfish thing to you?
What what what kind of what kind of jobs are we talking about that you don't think we have enough people for?
Um, Rush, in 1960, 53% of Americans didn't have a high school diploma.
In 1998, nine percent of Americans don't have a high school diploma.
And the Americans that are about to hit the workforce now, at this moment, are multitasking techno generation Xers on steroids.
They're not gonna be cleaning any toilets.
They're not gonna be working in any restaurants.
Who is going to do those jobs?
You tell me.
You baby boomers are about to hit an age where you can't work, where you're too old to work.
Who's gonna pay for you guys' social security?
Because the Republicans are not doing a great job at trying to convince the American people to change Social Security.
Who's gonna pay for all that?
Tell me.
I I I I I think I hear what you're saying.
What you uh what you're saying is that you want a permanent underclass that will do junk work for hardly any pay because that's better than what they can get from where they can't.
That's exactly what you're saying.
They're not, they don't have to be able to do that.
That is exactly what you you are and because you are the one, you're looking at this singularly and selfishly, you need somebody to clean your bathroom because you won't do it yourself.
You need somebody to work at your restaurant or whatever business you're in, and so you you think that people like me are probably gonna be effective.
I'm gonna tell you we're not.
It's a done deal.
You have won it's over with.
That's the way that's the same.
You're gonna have your permanent underclass.
That's what we don't like.
You're gonna have your permanent underclass.
When Juan or Maria are here long enough and refuse to clean your toilet, they'll do something and move on, and we'll have Juan Junior come along and clean your toilet.
No, because when Juan senior in them, when they start out here as on a part of the underclass, they they get accumulate capital and they send their children to school, and those children get a high school education to go to college.
Who's paying for it?
They're sending whatever they earn back to Mexico, and everybody else is paying for this education and paying for their health care.
And what happens when they send that money back to Mexico?
Nothing changes.
Absolutely.
Nothing changes.
Because they have a permanent underclass in Mexico too.
No, because those people in Mexico now have more money to spend, and that creates jobs in Mexico.
Well, that doesn't work out because if that were happening, Juan and Maria wouldn't be leaving Mexico.
They would be staying to take advantage of this burgeoning new job opportunity down there that you describe, it isn't happening.
They aren't Juan and Maria aren't making any more money here because they're illegal.
Well it right now.
Listen to See how complicated this is?
Listen to your complicated out to simple.
Elizabeth, you've got to listen to yourself.
It's our fault they're illegal.
It's our fault they're not assimilating.
It's our fault, our fault, our fault, our fault.
You want to fashion no responsibility to them.
Because you think that closing the border is whoever's sending about legalization is going to be the answer.
Elizabeth.
I have not once.
Now don't start confusing me with some of these raving lunatics that you're listening to out there.
I have never once suggested closing the border.
I've never once suggested a wall.
I have suggested border security and border uh uh beefing it up for the security purposes, as much which is not even a factor in what these guys in the Senate are doing, do they're not even worried about the poorest border.
They say they are, but they're not gonna do anything about it.
But don't let me in with these people.
I'm not even talking deportation.
I'm not even that's that I'm I'm not even in that crowd.
Well, you for a guest worker program?
No.
You're not Well, no, I'm because I don't it's not guest workers.
Fine.
It's not guests it's it's got guess it it's amnesty.
So what?
Who cares?
You do.
Who cares?
You know what?
You're I uh you're really looking at this selfishly, and and and I I'm not.
I I I'm looking at this long term as I look at everything.
I'm looking at it long term, and I'm I'm I see.
That's what I'm looking at, and that's not what you're looking at, actually.
It is most definitely what I'm looking at.
How how is that how is that, Rush?
It's amnesty.
That's very short term.
I'm thinking about what's going to happen to this economy over the long term if we start shrinking the amount of workers that come in here.
Those are nobody is talking about.
You know, you know, Elizabeth, I don't I'm not gonna be able to get through to you.
You and I would be the perfect pictures for the Time magazine cover story, men and women speak differently.
Because right.
Right now, uh I think I'm hearing you, but you're not I don't know that you're you're uh hearing me.
And I know why, because you're I do hear.
No, you're the caller, and I know I've been a caller and it's nervous and you're worried about what you want to say next.
Uh I hear you, Rush.
I swear to God that I hear you.
The point don't make any sense.
No, it's I'm no, I I'm making total sense.
You you you seem to be unaffected or unconcerned uh with the word illegal and just bringing anybody in on that basis of your own personal need.
By the way, the economic circumstances that you so fear, uh they ought to be happening now, if it were the case.
I'm I'm gonna have to look up some numbers for you as to uh, you know, the the the percentage uh of of uh illegals in certain job categories I had it the other day.
It's it's nowhere near twenty percent in any of them.
Uh and and there it's it's the the idea that we can't get along in this country without people without a high school diploma is just mind-boggling to me.
If what you're doing, no, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Yes, it is exactly what you're saying.
That we won't be able to in the future.
If there wasn't a demand for it, then they wouldn't be here.
Yes, we will, and there's a way to do it legally.
But if a permanent underclass is what's necessary for a roaring economy, Mexico ought to be outdoing us in every category of output.
And you're advocating a permanent umberclash because you think that there's always gonna need to be a bunch of poor schleps, essentially, who are only good for doing those menial tasks that are so important to you.
No.
Get on the escalator, just like the Americans.
No, you're couching this as though you care about these people improving their lives, but all you care about is having cheap labor for jobs that you are afraid you're not gonna be able to fill with whatever you're paying.
No, I'm uh I'm I'm worried about damaging our economy in the future.
I'm worried about inflation, right?
Elizabeth.
If you're uh this is this is a total disconnect.
You are making the claim that our economy can only thrive and survive with a permanent underclass in it, and that's that's no that is so untrue.
It's a hundred and eighty degrees out of phase.
I'm not saying that listen, it doesn't matter.
Okay, fine.
You are saying about the permanent let's just forget about doing the jobs that that uh the permanent underclass, okay, for just a second.
I'm worried about the amount of workers compared to the retirees.
Well that's where you and I are discussing.
Okay, now when you stop with this you guys' business, I'm not gonna quit working any time soon.
I'm not quitting until every American agrees with me, including you.
But you're gonna die someday, Russia.
I'm sorry to break that news to you.
Now, look Elizabeth, now can we be civil here like the President has asked?
Okay.
Let let let's let's be civil here.
The The point about the future benefits, I agree with you.
And I but I I'll tell you what, if this country's social welfare safety net or hammock relies on a permanent underclass and they're meager wages and they're not contributing to social security anyway, then we're gonna take a look at the case.
We're gonna tank, let me just illegal immigration cannot save the problem coming with social security.
We're talking about legal immigration.
No, you're talking about illegal.
You want to pass it.
Yes, you are.
You want to bring Well, what have we been talking about?
I'm talking about making it legal for all for anybody who wants to come come.
Well, yeah, well, we can't do that.
Why?
We can't because we have to have limits because of assimilation.
Because of a number of things.
We have a system for this.
There's a legal pathway.
Elizabeth, I do love you.
You remember this audience.
It's not been a good day for me with you, but I've enjoyed the opportunity.
I'm really long in this segment, and I and I and I have to go, but please don't.
You got to reorient yourself.
This economy does not depend on on illegal or legal permanent underclass workers.
It never has.
That's not the definition.
Your future social security, if you're really worried about Elizabeth, go make a ton of money and invest in yourself and come up with your own retirement.
Americans used to do that before the entitlement mentality.
You're sitting out there thinking that when you get old and retire, somebody's got to pay for it.
Well, try paying for it yourself instead of doing it on the backs of a bunch of poor slobs that don't have a high school diploma and have no hope of being anything more than that as long as they're looked at and treated as a permanent underclass.
I'd be ashamed.
I know, we're back.
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So what did she say?
The Wall Street Journal Republican.
She called herself a Wall Street Journal Republican.
She thinks that she's this giant capitalist, but she's not.
Here's what she didn't say.
Somebody has to subsidize the employment of an illegal alien.
When she gets when she hires one of these illegals to do whatever, somebody else is subsidizing it.
Neither the employee nor the employer are paying all the taxes and other deductions required as a matter of law when you hire U.S. citizens or legal immigrants, and it only is discovered if a president appoints you to some job in the government, and then you have to fill out all your forms.
And then of course it disqualifies you.
But capitalism can't work, uh, folks, if uh if there's not a set of rules that everybody can abide by.
It's like employment contracts or contracts between business you businesses.
I mean, you you go out and you create anarchy if some people have to follow the law and some people don't.
You tell the people who live in the towns along the southern border and the southern border states that illegal immigration's not or is a net economic benefit.
Go tell the school systems that are going broke and the emergency rooms that are closing that illegal immigration is a net benefit.
Go tell them about this.
Go down to Arizona, Elizabeth, go into Southern California, you know, go into go.
Well, she's Southern California, that makes it even more mystifying to me.
But here's the thing.
It's really the debate's becoming crystal clear now, based on what uh uh sweet Elizabeth said.
And it's this there actually are people in our country who oppose immigration laws, period.
And listen to their to their arguments.
They defend illegal immigration, which means they oppose caps on the number of immigrants who are coming in the country.
They oppose any kind of border agents snooping around stopping illegals.
So my question to those of you in the open borders crowd is this.
If illegal immigration is an economic boon to the country, then why don't you argue for letting the entire world's poor come into our country?
Let's just open the borders, China, France, Greece, New Haiti, Dominican Republic.
Let them come on in.
Why why do why limit this to Mexico or Central America?
Why only grant them the status of legal illegals?
There is no nation that has a policy in support of open borders because it will cease to be a nation.
When you don't have borders, you aren't a nation.
And that's where some people fear we're headed in this whole circumstance.
We'll be right back, folks.
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