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Nov. 21, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 21, 2005, Monday, Hour #2
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All right, Ralph Peters.
In the New York Post today, uh he's a retired army officer and a prolific writer.
How to lose a war is the headline.
And the first word of his piece is quit.
You want to lose a war, it's easy.
Just quit.
It's that simple.
There are plenty of more complex ways to lose a war, but none as reliable as just giving up.
Increasingly quitting looks like the new American way of war.
No matter how great your team, you can't win the game if you walk off the field at halftime, and that's precisely what the Democratic Party wants America to do in Iraq.
I told you they are demanding defeat, folks.
This is precisely what they're they are demanding defeat.
Forget the fact that we've made remarkable progress under daunting conditions.
The Democrats are looking to throw the game just to embarrass the Bush administration.
Forget about the consequences.
Disregard the immediate encouragement to the terrorists and insurgents to keep killing every American soldier they can.
Ignore what will happen in Iraq and the region if we bail out.
And don't mention how a U.S. surrender would turn Al Qaeda into an Islamic superpower.
The champ who knocked out Uncle Sam in a third round.
You can also forget about our dead soldiers whose sacrifices nothing but a political club for Democrats to wave in front of the media.
After all, one way to create the kind of disaffection in the ranks that the Dem's leaders yearn to see is to tell our troops on the battlefield that they're risking their lives for nothing, that we're throwing the game.
Forget that our combat veterans are re-enlisting at remarkable rates, knowing they'll have to leave their families and go back to war again.
Ignore the progress on the ground, the squeezing of the insurgency's last strongholds into the badlands on the Syrian border, blow off the successive Iraqi elections, and the astonishing cooperation we've seen between age-old enemies as they struggle to form a decent government.
Yep, just set a timetable for our troops to come home.
Show the world that America is an unreliable ally with no stomach for a fight, no matter the stakes involved.
Tell the world that deserting the South Vietnamese and fleeing from Somalia weren't anomalies.
That's what Americans do.
We flee.
We quit.
And while we're at it, let's just print up recruiting posters for the terrorists, informing the youth of the Middle East that Americans are cowards who can be attacked with impunity.
Whatever you do, don't talk about any possible consequences.
Focus on the moment and the next round of U.S. elections.
Just make political points.
After all those dead American soldiers and Marines, they don't matter.
They didn't go to Ivy League schools.
Besides, most would have voted Republican had they lived.
America's security?
Ha!
As long as the upcoming elections show democratic gains, let the terrorist threat explode.
So what if hundreds of thousands of Middle Easterners might die in a regional war?
So what?
If violent fundamentalism gets a shot of steroids, so what if we make Zarkawi the most successful Arab of the past 500 years?
Oh, for God's sake.
For God's sake, don't talk about democracy in the Middle East after all.
Democracy wasn't much fun for the Democrats in 2000 to 2004.
Why support it overseas when it's been so disappointing for the Democrats at home?
Democracy?
No big deal to them.
They lose.
Human rights.
Oh dear, human rights, though that's for rich white people who live in Malibu.
Unless you can use the issue to whack Republicans, otherwise brown black or yellow people can die by the millions.
Dean Reed and Pelosi LLC won't say boo.
You have to understand, my fellow citizens, none of this matters, and you don't matter either.
All that matters is scoring political points.
Let the world burn.
Let the massacres run on.
Let the terrorists acquire weapons of mass destruction.
Just give the Bush Administration a big black eye, and we'll call that a win.
The irresponsibility of the Democrats on Capitol Hill is breathtaking.
How can an honorable man such as Joe Lieberman stay in that party?
Not one of the critics of our efforts in Iraq, not one has described his or her vision for Iraq in the Middle East in the wake of a troop withdrawal.
Not one has offered any analysis of what the terrorists would gain and what they might do.
Not one has shown respect for our war dead by arguing we must put aside our partisan differences and win.
There's plenty that Mr. Peters writes here that says he doesn't like about the Bush administration.
His domestic policies disgust me.
The Bushies got plenty wrong in Iraq, but at least they'll fight.
The Democrats are ready to betray our troops, betray our allies and our country's future security for a few house seats.
Well, surrender is never a winning strategy.
Yes, we've been told lies about Iraq by Democrats and their media groupies, about conditions on the ground, about our troops, lies about what's at stake, lies about the consequences of running away from the great struggle of our time, lies about the continuing threat from terrorism.
And lies about the consequences for you and your family.
The Democrats or their media groupies, they're the ones telling the lies.
What is it that Democrats fear?
As I said last hour, they fear an American success in Iraq.
They need us to fail.
The Democrats need us to fail, and they're gonna make us fail no matter the cost.
They need to declare defeat before the 2006 midterm elections and ensure a real debacle before 2008.
A bloody mess they'll blame on Bush, even though they will have made it themselves.
We won't even talk about the effect quitting while we're winning in Iraq might have on the go-to-war calculation of other powers that might want to challenge us in the future.
Let's just be good Democrats and prove that Osama bin Laden was right all along.
Americans have no stomach for a fight.
As for the 2,000 plus dead American troops about whom the lefties are so awfully concerned, as soon as we abandon Iraq, they'll forget about our casualties quicker than an amnesiac forgets how much small change he had in his pocket.
If we run away from our enemies overseas, our enemies will make their way to us.
Quit Iraq, and far more than two thousand Americans are gonna die, and they won't all be conservatives.
Ralph Peters, New York Post today, and a great piece sort of echoes some of the things that I said in the uh in the first hour of this program.
These are the real cowards.
You know, I want more evidence of their cowardice?
They pull this stunt when I'm out of the country.
They don't even have the guts to pull this stunt when I'm here.
They have to calculate this so that I'm out of the country when they do this.
Well, I'm back, and I'm not gonna get away with it like they have not gotten away with anything else of a similar nature they have tried previously.
Quick time out, we'll be back after this.
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I was gonna go back and add a feature to the newsletter called conservative fundamentals.
We've had this newsletter out there for about sixteen years now.
And sometimes it it I got I got a request from this college student at somewhere, Oregon, to uh to help him with some ideas on a on an essay that he had been instructed to write by his professor based on some book.
So I I've debated long enough, should I do this?
Because if I start, I'll probably end up writing the guy's paper for him, and is that really helping him?
But I did it anyway.
And after I finished with it, I got the idea.
You know what?
This is just basics.
This is just fundamentals.
As a college student, basically all he needed to know was the fundamentals of conservatism to know why his his professor's question was totally flawed.
Just the question was flawed.
Uh it was about the whole concept of economic equality.
And there's no such thing as economic equality.
But that's what socialists think that they can do is provide economic equality.
The only way they can do that's to make sure everybody's equally miserable.
What this country's about is economic opportunity.
Everybody's got different goals, desires, dreams, ambitions.
People are going to work harder than others trying to accomplish certain things.
Like some people are going to work much harder at playing golf than I will.
I'm hopeless.
Some people are going to work much harder at at uh being a lawyer than I will.
I don't want to be, they do.
So we've all got different ambitions.
I wanted to be the best guy radio would ever produced.
That was that's been my ambition since I was eight years old.
So I worked at it.
Other people on radio couldn't care less.
They just don't want to go as high as they can go.
Some have high, some have low, but you but they'll all have opportunity, economic opportunity in a capitalist system.
Anyway, when I got through writing this this uh answer to this this uh student's letter, you know what?
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Now, uh Ralph Peters in his piece just a moment ago mentioned Joe Lieberman.
And he said, What is an honorable guy like Joe Lieberman even doing in the Democratic Party?
And it reminded me of a piece that I saw uh from this past week.
I did cram last night after having a grunge day all day.
I did some cramming last night.
I have a piece here from last Monday in the Washington Post by Fred Hyatt called The Politics of War.
Adele Abdul Mahdi, Iraq's vice president, may seem a bit unfeeling as he assesses the ongoing violence in his country.
It's very hard, he says, but better than during Saddam's Day, when Mahdi says each year 30,000 Iraqis were executed or assassinated by the regime or killed in the dictators' wars.
Well, I'm gonna tell you something, folks.
If a Democrats get their way and we lose, and make no mistake, the American left is demanding defeat.
That is what Mirtha's call and the surrounding support that it's getting adds up to.
They are demanding our defeat.
All for the purposes of making sure they have a hope and a prayer of winning in 06 and 08.
Because if we win and if we have success, they are out of power for generations.
Some people, why Rush?
What?
Because they've never been in support of this.
And by the way, you know, here's the here's the great precipice that they have now approached.
They wanted back in 2002, they wanted a resolution, a new resolution, and they wanted to go on record as supporting the actions in Iraq.
And they wanted to go on record talking about the weapons of mass destruction.
And we've played for you the quotes.
We've read to you the quotes from all these Democrats.
2002, 1998, Bill Clinton, Tom Dashell, Harry Reid, all of these people, John Kerry, uh uh, what's his name?
Jay Rockefeller.
Now all of a sudden, they want us out of Iraq.
They want to pull us out of there.
It's hopeless.
We don't have a prayer.
We went in there on the basis of lies, there weren't any weapons of mass destruction, and they want us to forget that they ever were in favor of this.
And their excuse is, well, we didn't have all the uh intelligence.
Uh Bush lied, cooked the intelligence, we were we were misled.
All right, now they have to have a defeat now.
Since they have done a 180 and have said their votes were flawed, their votes were illegitimate because they were lied to.
They can't afford for us to win.
Because if we win, when we win, guess who cannot pipe up and claim credit now?
They can't.
They can't come forth and say that they were there with us from the get-go, that they were there with steel spines right along with President Bush.
They can't say that.
This is why I say they demand defeat.
Their only political option is U.S. defeat, folks.
Their position the last three weeks mandates defeat.
They cannot, they cannot take a victory and participate in it.
They can't raise their hands, they can't go to the microphones and cameras and say we helped.
They can't go out and say this was our policy, we were all for it from the get-go.
They have already secured our defeat in their minds.
They're trying to convince people we've already lost.
Well, we're not going to pull out and we're not going to lose.
And when we win this thing, they know they are out of power for generations, because they will not be able to do another flip-flop 180, even with all the help that their press buddies will give them.
They will not be able to do another 180 and make the claim that they were with us all along, and this victory is something that they participated in and in which they can share.
They can't do it.
And it's on that basis that I say they are invested in defeat.
They are politically invested in defeat.
We must lose.
Their political calculation on their future requires U.S. defeat.
Just as in Vietnam.
Anyway, this Fred Hyatt story has a quote here from um from Lieberman, and that's that's what I was getting to.
And uh as you know, uh I like Senator Lieberman, and I do think he's sort of a lone wolf in his party.
He said this: a true wartime president Lieberman said would reach out regularly to congressional leaders of both parties.
He would explain strategy, he would explain mistakes, he would be open to suggestions.
Is that a true wartime president?
Is that what wartime presidents have done?
They've reached out regularly to congressional leaders of both parties.
Wartime presidents have explained strategy, they have admitted mistakes, they have been open to suggestions.
That's not my remembering of history.
A real wartime president would impose press censorship.
A real wartime president would fund 24-765 pro-war propaganda.
A true wartime president would send all Arabs living in the 50 states to internment camps in Utah.
A true wartime president, citizens or not, would send Arabs living in this country to one state.
A true wartime president would ration gasoline and all other essential war materials.
A true wartime president would send 80 divisions to extinguish resistance in Iraq and occupy Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, and shoot wannabe terrorists found on our soil without trial.
That's what our last true wartime president did, Senator Lieberman, and his name was Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
That's what a wartime president does.
Those who would see this country defeated for political advantage and actively work for that.
There's a word for people.
In the previous wars in this country, we had a word that was attached to people who sought their nation's defeat.
And they were called traitors.
In this instance, we don't call them traitors.
We say they're good people and we respect their differing points of view, but that they are wrong.
Well, they are allies of our enemies.
The Democrats, the American left that seek now and demand our defeat are effectively allies of terrorists around the world.
So a true wartime president That's not what we've got going on here, and it certainly is not somebody who's going to be meavy-mouthed.
Can you come eat with me and give me your ideas?
And can you can I want to tell you what I done wrong in this so we can move forward?
What a load of croc.
All right, back to the phones we go now.
This is uh Becky in Orrington, Maine.
Nice to have you on the program, Becky.
Welcome.
Yes, I have three I'm serving OIF and OEF veterans.
I've been to four funerals.
I do not want those funerals to be in vain.
Uh well, it won't be.
What do you think, though, when you hear all these catcalls from uh the Democrats claiming that the majority of American people think this is a lost cause, a mistake to begin with, and want us out of there and that we should pull out.
Well, it makes me sick.
I didn't raise natural born losers.
Well, good for you.
Good for you.
Uh what what's how often do you um do you get a chance to uh to speak to your three sons?
Uh uh quite often.
One not so often.
He's what do they think of all this?
Oh, uh i they think it's in their words messed up.
Yeah, it's well, they're they're being used and and it's it's sickening.
And all three of your sons uh volunteered, right?
Yes, I did.
See, that's it, folks.
These are all volunteers.
This is not Vietnam or there's a draft and people are opposed to it.
These are all volunteers.
People have donated their time, they're volunteering their efforts, they're volunteering much more than many of us would uh in this effort, and they are being impugned.
Uh and the the funny thing is that the left thinks that this is how you express support for them.
Bring them home.
They don't want to be over there, they know it's a lost cause too, blah, blah, blah.
Angela in Austin, Texas.
You're next on the EIB network.
Hi.
Yes, hello, Mr. Rump Lumba.
I'm a little nervous.
Um I just feel that we are creating terrorists by the techniques we used against them in um Gitmo, and you you mentioned some terrorists that were in Git mode that have been captured.
Um we created them by torturing them, as described um in Helgerson's report in spring of 2004.
You know, this is what Congressman Murtha said.
Congressman Murtha said that the uh the real downturn in the war began with uh when Abu Ghrab that that that's that that's that's when we began losing the war was uh with uh Abu Ghrab and that we we're creating terrorists out there and and and all this, and I must ask you a question.
Okay.
Do you really believe this?
Yes.
Um it really bothered me today when I looked at Goss's statement about um the torture ban would affect uh I call it the torture ban would affect the torture we don't do in the secret prisons that we don't, you know, that don't exist.
I mean, that's the flip-flop 180.
Um that's who's doing that.
Not I I'm not uh the tour would affect the torture we don't do in the secret prisons that don't exist.
Um, I don't know.
I think I'm gonna be kind of a waste of time to ask you questions about this, but I I'm I'm stunned.
Uh I'm from an intellectual uh standpoint.
From an intellectual stand, I'm stunned that you actually believe that we have created terrorists.
Do you know how long militant Islamists have been attacking innocent people the world over?
Right, but when you take a person and you torture them, you make them angry angry at the same time.
Would you please would you please try answering my question?
Do I know how I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you right now.
I'm gonna tell you right now that it is to me sophistry to accept what you believe.
I can't I it it it is it is it is it is incalculable for me to even I I can't relate.
I can't relate somebody who thinks the way you do.
So you think I'm an ally of a terrorist because I believe this way is that No, I don't think you are.
I I I think I think you end up being a useful Idiot.
I I think I think you think you're a good person.
I think you think you have a big heart.
And I think you believe that your country needs to represent the highest ideals.
And that when your country doesn't, your country deserves to be criticized, and you think you're doing a valorious thing, valorous thing, and a very honorable thing by criticizing your country when you think that they are are are not we are not behaving up to the uh high ideals that you believe we should be.
I I don't I don't think that you uh uh are actively seeking our defeat, but you will support people who do.
And you will you will give them aid and you will give them comfort with your support, almost being ignorant of what you're doing.
I don't I don't I don't question your uh uh honor or your heart.
I just think you're so wrong, it is it's difficult for me to relate to it.
I just I can't imagine anybody thinking this way, that we created terrorists, that we have gone out and created these people.
See, the the problem with this is that with people that think the way you do, it always comes back to it's our fault.
No matter what happens in the world, it's our fault.
And I just don't understand it.
It doesn't it does not compute with me.
Well why do we bother um ratifying the Convention Against Torture if we weren't gonna abide by that?
Um there's a reason why.
Well, in the first place, I'm not willing to accept the premise that all we do is torture.
I'm not willing to accept the premise that that's the whole whole of our policy and the way we treat every prisoner.
I'm not prepared to accept it.
I think it's happened on unique and rare circumstances, but I don't think it's our policy.
You do.
I I read a quote from a soldier that about seventy-five percent of the people that were put in those prisons as terrorists, seventy-five percent of them were just were not.
We're not.
They they got seventy-five percent of innocent people, and by the time they're turned out, what are they now?
Uh well are they after this?
You know, this is there are things that happen in war.
And y I just told you what a true wartime president does.
You know, it it i th the th the thing I find amazing is that we we have people who praise FDR, great wartime president.
FDR did far more worse things to Japanese American citizens than has been done by anything going on in this war.
And he's never criticized for it, very rarely.
It's all part of the war effort, it needed to be done.
We couldn't take any chances back then.
There's a there's a terrible lack of knowledge of history and a d and systematic inconsistency.
So I don't even accept the premise.
Your whole premise is that we are making innocent people angry at us.
Right.
There are of course real terrorists out there.
Of course there are a lot of real terrorists in Iraq, but when we pick up and um terrorize the larger population, then that population is also angry at us.
Well, then why isn't the larger population at Iraq mad at us?
How come the larger population in Iraq is voting for democracy?
How come the larger population in Iraq is desperate for us to stay, as is the larger population in Afghanistan?
This soldier, this soldier, this soldier that you claim, this soldier that you claim to have said that 75% of the prisoners are innocent.
I can give you the name what was this guy, Jimmy what if what was his name?
The week before I left.
This guy that was quoted uh as a friend of Cindy Sheehan's was quoted as saying all kinds of horrible things are going on in Iraq.
They were all proven to be lies.
None of it was true.
I can't remember his last name.
But I think you've got to be careful of who you read.
If you're reading it from friends of yours on their websites, I guarantee you that you are reading a bunch of lies.
It was either time or newsweek.
Well, I wouldn't trust that.
They have an agenda.
I I wouldn't.
I don't trust the New York Times.
I'm t I'm telling you, there's a whole air area of the U.S. media that also is invested in America's defeat.
And your good heartedness and your willingness here to to uh have these high ideals, you you are unwittingly participating in it by a believing the worst in your country, and then B demanding policies based on this belief.
You know, I I I think uh I'll give you my reaction just to let you know here, Angela.
As I said previously on the program, I've got a story somewhere here.
There was a big headline on Drudge while I was gone.
Something about eighty-three thousand have been detained in the war on terror.
My reaction to that, you know what it was?
It's a good start.
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You know, my friends.
Replaying here in my mind the call from was it Angela?
Yeah.
Angela in Austin, Texas.
Do you notice that the liberals never talk about how the enemy treats people?
They refuse.
The enemy refuses to abide by the rules of law.
We never hear about how they violate the Geneva Convention and about how our soldiers are covered by it.
We never hear about how they behead people and how they torture.
We never hear about their inhumanity.
They never talk about the enemy.
They never once talk about the enemy.
The left can't be bothered to talk about the enemy.
In fact, the reason they don't is because we made them evil.
Oh, yeah.
I want to see the torture chamber where Mohammed Otto was tortured by America prior to 9-11.
I want to see it.
I want to see the torture chamber where Ramsey Yousse and that Sheikh Omar, what's his name?
Um Rachman, who blew up the World Trade Center in February of '93.
I want to see the torture chamber where they were tortured.
I want all these terrorists that blew up the USS coal in Yemen and all of our embassies in Africa.
I want to see the torture chambers where these men were were taught.
They were just innocent, decent, good loving citizens of the planet.
And somehow they ended up being tortured by America, and that made them mad.
And so they had to blow up the World Trade Center, right?
Don't you understand?
It's our fault.
Well, I want to see these torture chambers.
They never talk about how evil the enemy is.
They never talk about how the how evil the enemy does.
They never talk about the threat the enemy poses.
It's real odd to me.
Very odd.
But it's not if you if if if you not if you understand that liberals in our country demand our defeat and therefore have to play down the enemy's threat and demonize the president and our war effort.
Does it strike you odd that to the left in this country, George Bush is a bigger enemy than bin Laden's or Cowie or any of these people?
Bush is the problem.
Well, it's not odd if you understand where they're coming from.
They are demanding defeat.
They are they are obsessed with America's defeat.
They cannot politically afford a U.S. victory.
John in Santa Monica, California.
Welcome to the program.
Nice to have you with us.
Mega Ditto's Rush Limbaugh.
I love you.
Thank you, sir.
Love you too.
I am calling here from behind the enemy lines in Santa Monica, California.
I know these people well.
They they are they are like you say, glittering jewels of colossal ignorance.
They couldn't touch uh John Roberts in the hearings.
They they simply don't understand.
I don't think I think you give them too much credit when it comes to uh the ability to plan uh plan uh strategies to to to uh get their way, essentially.
I I I don't see that they can do that.
I think they're they're similar to your last caller, God love her, but she just has no clue about what she's talking about.
You know, I I know but you know, so that last caller is not typical.
There that last caller was not angry, she was not hateful, she was not mean.
She's our ability to grasp the concepts is similar to to Pelosi, to Kennedy.
They just don't, they just they're just stupid.
When you start talking about the leadership of this party, they know exactly what they're doing.
I for the longest time thought like you do.
Hey, these, you know, these these people, they're smart enough to know what they're doing.
Or or they're not, maybe they just don't realize the consequences of their actions.
I think that there are a lot of their supporters that fit the profile that you've uh you've described.
But let me tell you something.
When it these these people that are leading this movement are aiming at one thing, and that's getting their power back, and there is nothing happen stance about this strategy.
This is something Jay Rockefeller, we discovered his memo from 2003.
They've been working on this for two and a half years.
They've been Waiting for the day to spring this strategy for two and a half years.
This is a this is a a conceived and executed strategy.
It is a plan.
Now, all of their sycophants out there, and there are many levels of sycophants.
I mean, you've got some wild-eyed radical lunatics on the left fringe.
Yeah, they're my neighbors.
But they believe every word of it.
They are they are, as you say, totally blind to the threat posed by the enemy.
They do believe the enemy is their country.
They are totally blind to the consequences of their of their policy succeeding.
However, that doesn't matter to the leaders of the movement.
The leaders of the movement simply want the echo.
They want the loud voices, they want the support because that's what will influence the press, and they hope influence the average American citizen.
But make no mistake about it.
You know, your average people walking along the beaches in Santa Monica may be, you know, useful idiots.
But the people at the top of this pyramid who are planning this strategy strategy are invested in our defeat.
They've now done a 180.
They were all for the war.
They demanded a new resolution.
They demanded a new debate.
They wanted to go on record and be seen as being on record supporting the war.
Now they're doing a 180.
Now it's illegitimate.
It's unjust.
Bush lied.
They can't.
They can't participate in a victory now.
This war must be a defeat.
It must be a defeat for the United States.
The only way they're going to get their power back.
That's why they want us to quit.
They want us to just get up and quit.
And I, you know, to the extent that you may have a point, and this is even debatable.
They may not be fully aware of the consequences of their success.
No, I I they if they were, the consequences of them winning this is more and more terrorism in this country, with them as the elected leaders.
And I can't believe that they actually want more terrorist attacks in this country with them as elected leaders.
You know, they're figuring on this, launching them to victory in 06, launching them to victory in 08.
Well, the consequences of that happening would be that terrorists would really cut and run and they could just, you know, come across our borders with impunity because the Democrats are their big friends.
Democrats are going to fight back, Democrats aren't going to kick them out, uh Democrats going to find a way to blame America for any future terrorist actions.
I I you know.
Well, yeah, I know they might think a chance for greatness would happen on their watch, but but I, you know, they're if if they're that diabolical, and Mr. Snergley thinks they are, you actually think you actually think that part of their strategy is to engineer another 9-11 type attack on this on this country's shores while they are in power so they can be the ones taking heroic action in response.
Well, if it happens, it's okay, but they're not engineering it.
I'm I'm just I I understand John, I understand exactly what you're saying.
There are countless thousands of useful idiots, and they're basically just ignorant.
They read the LA Times, they read the New York Times, they chat amongst themselves over coffee in various places, and they're ignorant.
They l and I don't mean stupid, they are literally ignorant.
They they only know their own world view and anything else.
An alternative way of thinking.
If it's exposed to them, just throws them for loops.
They never considered it before.
They automatically reject it.
Uh, but it still throws them for loops.
But I uh don't don't think that the leaders of this movement are just, you know, wandering aimlessly through the political desert here.
There is a specific strategy that they are in the process of uh of executing at this moment.
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Stay with us.
And we are back.
Yeah, it was it was I forget who, but uh, there were some Democrats that were saying after 9-11, oh, this is too bad.
Bill Clinton's being denied a chance for world greatness.
They were actually lamenting that it didn't happen uh on their watch.
And of course, that's uh a memory that uh, you know, uh that's gonna be with me always.
Uh I don't think that the liberals today are actively hoping for that kind of opportunity when they're in power.
Uh, but it is it is folks, there's one thing that's unmistakable.
The American left today wants you to think that we are the barbarians, that we're the torturers, that we're the ones that are evil, that we're the ones that deserve defeat.
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