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June 20, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 20, 2005, Monday, Hour #2
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Pardon me, my friends.
I was in the middle of a big yawn there.
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Don't forget the Club Gitmo t-shirt.
We have four of them, sizes small to four X. Is that right?
Yeah, all the way up to four X, available at Rush Limbaugh.com.
Um in the Club Gitmo gift shop, uh, which is part of our Club Gitmo brochure.
And they're just flying out of the uh Club Gitmo gift shop and it they're flying out of there.
I mean, it would it it uh I'd love to tell you the number, but I'm uh don't want to get into that yet until we got a fight.
But it's it's huge.
It's just it's it's huge, and I can't wait for these shirts to all get sent out and everybody be wearing them out there.
And uh you can get yours, uh you can get one or all four or any combination thereof and whatever sizes.
The 1995 for the smalls through uh double X, the uh 3X 2295, and the 4X is 2595, because it takes more fabric to make those.
And by the way, I got an email.
What did I do with it?
I got an email here from uh from a guy.
Remember, I got I caught all kinds of grief last week uh when I was talking about these larger sizes, and people said, well, they shrink up.
And I said, well, get them dry cleaned like I do, and they won't shrink.
And everybody just descended on, oh yeah, get t-shirts dry clean.
Well, I do.
Folks, I I I mean, I even get my socks dry cleaned.
Because if you if you if you wash socks in the well, when you put them in the dryer, you get up with lint.
You get all that lint out of you, clean the lint screen, you still get lint all over the socks.
You gotta sit there and pick the lid off if you want to look good.
None of it never happens.
Everything comes back to the dry cleaner looking brand new.
The only thing I've sent to the laundry uh is uh or uh the wash machine is uh his underwear.
Everything else.
Everything else uh dry clean.
And I've got all kinds of uh accusations of being out of touch.
But I did get this.
Hey, Rush.
I am currently in the dry cleaning business.
My father's been a dry cleaner since 1957, and you are totally correct.
The dry cleaning process will take far better care of your clothes, even t-shirts and normal laundry.
The reason it's looked at as odd is that it is a bit more expensive with prices for clothing currently very high.
My business is doing quite a volume in t-shirts.
Because t-shirts cost a lot of money.
Everything else does, and dry cleaning them protects them.
You're right as usual.
If you hear any flack, tell them to stick it.
Well, wouldn't go that far, but it's been a long time since I uh uh caught that amount of grief.
Saying I get my my t-shirts dry cleaned.
And folks, let me just I don't I have one white t-shirt.
Now, what are you laughing at?
I have one white my t-shirts are color coordinated.
They have they I wear them with other things.
I do not, and I'm I don't want them to look like a bunch of rags.
I don't want to look like some rock star out there with holes in them and everything else.
So I do know what a lint screen is.
Lint screens have bothered me all my life, and I finally got to the point where I don't have to worry about how how horribly rotten they are.
I mean, lint screen on your socks is horrible.
It's just it's just horrible.
And I bugs me.
Why even wash them?
Getting up with all that lint on there.
So um at any rate.
All right, we're gonna go to the audio sound bites here, Firks, uh, folks.
And this this is about uh Senator McCain.
I asked a question in the uh in the previous hour.
McCain, you'll hear it in this sound bite.
Let's just play the sound bite.
This is his answer to where he is on Gitmo.
He's on Meet the Press yesterday with uh with Tim Russert.
Russert says, Guantanamo, in October, December 2003, John McCain said he's concerned about the failure to move ahead with prisoner trials at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Quote, those cases have to be disposed of one way or another.
After keeping someone two years, a decision should be made.
That was a year and a half ago.
It's now been three and a half years.
Should we lose it?
Should we close it?
I think on balance, the argument has got to be.
The weight of evidence has got to be that we've got to adjudicate these um uh these people's cases, and that means that if it means releasing some of them, you'll have to release them.
Look, even AF Adolf Eichmann got a trial.
I mean, these the we are signatories to numerous agreements on human rights against torture, universal uh declaration on human rights, et cetera.
So that means that we have to do something with these people.
And I hope we can move that process forward very soon.
All right, there's 503 of them down there, 520.
He wants trials for all of them.
Can you imagine?
Anybody ask the U.S. attorneys that would have to be the prosecution whether they want to prosecute these cases.
How long will it be before all these trials actually occur?
You know what?
But I don't want to get sidetracked.
Even Adolf Eichmann got a trial.
Adolf Eichmann, uh, ladies and gentlemen, Adolf Eichmann was tried.
Anybody remember the year Adolf Eichmann was tried?
1961.
Adolf Eichmann was executed on May 31st, 1962.
That was 17 years after World War II.
Adolf Eichmann was not in prison for two or three years, and then a senator back then said, you know, we've either got to charge him or let him go.
It didn't happen.
We had to go kidnap the guy down in Brazil.
He was hiding out with the boys from Brazil.
He was hiding out down there with Mengela and all the other Nazi war criminals that had fled Lucene with their gold and other treasure and gone down to South America.
And that's where he was found.
He was brought back and he was tried.
He was tried in Israel.
And he was convicted, and he was executed on May 31st, 1962.
If he's going to use the standard of Nuremberg here, then the detainees at Guantanamo got a lot of years to sit there at Club Gitmo before they get a trial.
This is this is well, you can characterize it however you want.
But to compare this to Adolf Eichmann and what we did with it took us years to find the guy.
And then it took us a long time to try him, and it was not until 1962.
The war ended effectively, 45 and and and he's executed in 1962.
And to compare that with what's going on down at Guantanamo Bay is uh just a mistake on Senator McCain's part.
Russart then said, well, Ross Perot, who has been deeply involved with the prisoners of war issue, and you were a prisoner of war, said this the other day.
He said, if in fact we're doing things that are improper, that'll give our enemy the incentive to be more brutal to any POWs uh they have from our military.
Do you agree with uh sorry, agree with that?
Yes, I do.
I I think that we will not have as high a moral ground the next time we are in a conflict and Americans become American servicemen and women become should fall prey uh prisoner become prisoners of war.
And it worries me and it keeps me awake at night.
It really does.
It does.
It worries me, it keeps keeps me awake.
Sheemer!
I'm not sleeping!
You hear me?
I'm not sleeping.
So now we understand what this is all about.
McCain can't sleep.
Okay, so I I see, I understand.
Now, if if if we allow these terrorists to have lawyers and rights and all the rest, they won't mistreat our prisoners.
Oh what?
A wonderful world.
Somebody grab Louis Armstrong and let's hear the song.
Only kidding, don't try to find it.
What a wonderful world it would be.
If we just let these terrorists have lawyers and rights and all that, uh then they won't mistreat our prisoners.
It's that simple.
But it's actually odd, folks.
Because they attacked us.
And that was at a time when we I think we held one prisoner, the blind sheik, Omar.
Ugh, something wrong.
No, Omar Rahman.
Obar Omar Abdel Rahman.
And he was tried.
He was uh uh and and in prison.
He's the blind sheikh, and he's in jail.
We were holding one prisoner after convicting him.
And uh beside from that, I don't know anybody else that's the uh any any uh Islamic terrorists that were in jail.
Well, Ramsey Youssef, he might be in jail too.
Two of them.
Uh but here's the problem, Senator McCain, Al-Qaeda targets civilians.
Al Qaeda slaughters innocent people.
It has as its mission the destruction of our nation.
Al Qaeda has not signed the Geneva Convention.
So I don't know what makes Senator McCain or anybody else think that they'll treat our prisoners in a way in which they won't even treat innocent men and uh women and children.
This is very odd thinking.
We just treat these guys at Gitmo a little nicer.
Frankly, they're being treated better than some school kids.
Schools have to be closed because it's too hot.
We're not closing Gitmo because it's too hot.
We're turning on the air conditioning.
We complain about school kids getting fat and ballooning up like balloons because they're eating the wrong stuff, a lot of it.
Uh uh, but they don't get the food that Gitmo uh uh vacationers get.
And but but to say that Al Qaeda is gonna treat our guys better when they have as their mission the slaughter of innocent men, women, and children.
It's it's Twilight Zone time again.
I'm sitting here, I'm scratching my head.
None of this is computing with me.
Back in just a second.
We'll get to your phone calls here in uh in an LGO, but we have some more McCain sound bites.
Uh next up is McCain on Durbin.
Uh Russert said, your Democratic colleague Dick Durbin set off a fire storm when he compared the actions of Americans at Gitmo to Nazis, Soviet gulags and poll pot.
Newt Gingrich said that Senator Durbin should be censured by the Senate for those comments.
Senator Durbin owes not only uh the Senate an apology, and I don't know if it does censure would be an order, but an apology because it does a great disservice to uh men and women who suffered in the gulag and and in uh Paul Pot's uh killing fields.
Dick Durbin should uh be required to read Alexander Solzanitzon's Gulag Archipelago, and I think that he would may have a better understanding that in there's no comparison whatsoever.
And uh it does a great disservice to the majority of men and women who are serving in Guantanamo, who are doing the job that they're told to do, and they're doing it in a humane fashion.
To tar the American servicemen and women with a brush that applies to the gulag or to the killing fields is a great disservice to the men and women in the military who are serving honorably down there.
Now, this is a bit I mean, it sounds good, but McCain just got through saying we need to either close the place down or give these people trials.
Why do we have to close it down?
Or give them trial if they're being treated so well.
Anyway, so for his part, um uh Durbin said it it's not that my remarks were wrong or that there's any need for apology.
Durbin blamed the right wing for twisting his comments.
He blamed the right wing for twisting his comments.
Now, interestingly, uh George Lakoff is blaming the Republicans for twisting Howard Dean's comments as well.
So this is a coordinated message in the Democratic Party.
Whatever they say, however outrageous, however damaging to our cause, whatever they say, it's the Republicans' fault.
That's the message.
We'll get to that here in just a second, but we have uh uh one more McCain, and I think I've got a couple of Chris Dodds here that I want you to hear as well.
Uh first off, Russert says, well, should should should should uh should Durbin formally apologize.
Well, I don't know what a formal, but he should he should certainly apologize.
Well, will the Senate take any action against them, you know?
Uh uh I I predict to you that by the time this program is shown next Sunday, that Mr. Durbin will have apologized.
Well, I that I want to see because he's got this big fundraiser uh, what was it, Paint the Nation Blue?
They've got this paint the nation blue fundraiser tomorrow night.
Howard Dean and Dick Durbin are the lead uh the stars of the show.
They're the stars of the show.
The provocators, whatever, but the stars of the show.
Now, why if you're gonna bring this guy out to raise money and he and he succeeds in raising a bunch of money tomorrow night, why then have him apologize later in the week?
How's Durbin going to apologize when he said my remarks weren't wrong?
Uh there's no need to an apology.
Uh uh right wing is twisting my remarks.
So why uh this is not setting the stage for apologizing, uh, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's move on to Senator Dodd, who was on this week.
Uh needs David Brinkley.
Uh Uh the host of the show, George Stephanopoulos said uh Senator Durbin stood by those comments for several days, finally expressing his regret on Friday night in the face of a lot of criticism.
Yet most Democrats were silent.
Did Democrats fail to understand how offensive those comments seemed to so many?
And fairness to uh Senator Durbin, uh that he was uh uh paraphrasing remarks by an FBI uh agent uh that had uh written a report about Guantanamo.
Oh, it wasn't.
Since then, Senator Durbin has said he regrets those words.
I think the more important discussion is not so much what Senator Durbin said, but rather what are the conditions in Guantanamo.
Yeah, yeah, right.
That's what's really important here.
Not what he said, but what are the conditions down there?
Let's see the memo that Durbin read from, because we got an FBI source, so wait a minute.
Uh I've seen the memo and it's not what it says.
But Durbin did not uh, ladies and gentlemen, paraphrase remarks by an FBI agent.
He read the remarks.
It's what Durbin said after those remarks that has gotten him in trouble and that Dodd did not address uh Stephanopoulos bored in, though.
He said, but but Durban shouldn't have said it, right?
Well, he said that.
He apologizes for it.
I think we're paying too much attention to that particular set of circumstances and not the underlying question, and that is whether or not we ought to maintain Guantanamo as a prison camp uh in Cuba.
I don't think we should.
Uh it's become a symbolic of everything that's wrong here.
It's hurting us, it's hurting us around the world as we try and build support for our policies in Iraq.
In my view, we ought to shut it down.
Who who's trying to build support for our policies in Iraq, Senator?
Certainly nobody on your side of the aisle.
Who's doing that?
Who's trying to build support for policies in Iraq?
First, we have to shut down Abu Ghrab.
We have to bend over and grab our own ankles for that.
Now we got to bend over, grab the ankles about Abu Grab.
And I'll tell you this, folks, no matter where we put these prisoners, it's going to be the same accusation, the same allegations, because this is a this is a this is a policy that has as its objective the embarrassment and defeat of George W. Bush.
And if a country goes down the tubes temporarily because of that, fine.
The Democrats will put up with that if that's what it takes to get rid of George W. Bush and make sure that no Republican can be elected again.
Uh certainly not in 2008.
Steve in El Paso, Texas, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Rush.
Uh honored to speak to you today.
Thank you.
Hey, the the uh 12-year Navy veteran, and you know what is so offensive about Senator Durbin's remarks, and and typical of liberals in general, is that they don't understand that you cannot separate the chain of command from the actual troops.
And so they say they support the troops, but they don't support the policy.
Well, that that that did not apply in Nuremberg, which which Senator Durbin was talking about the Nazis.
That that just didn't apply.
Following orders was not an excuse.
So by by definition, they're indict not only the leadership in the chain of command, but the entire but the entire uh troops as well.
Yeah, I agree with you.
We made this point last week.
They they can't ever again say they support the troops.
It is the troops they're ripping at Gitmo.
Who is it that's treating these prisoners this way?
It's the guards, it's the prisoners uh the uh the the soldiers down there here.
This is a direct assault on the troops they oh with the high command.
You know, that that that goes without saying.
Uh but yeah, the they say they support the troops, but they don't, and this is this is full-fledged evidence.
Uh let me play for you the real Democratic Party once again.
Katrina Vandenhoovel of the Nation applauds Durbin uh for standing up to the right wing.
She was on uh the this week show yesterday on the round table with George Stephanopoulos.
And uh, you know, Stephanopoulos says, uh well, he didn't apologize, just uh misunderstood to divert attention on the issue they wanted to focus on, and it did hurt the party.
I think you saw uh the right wing try to divert attention from what is the real issue here, the brutal techniques and policies, which an FBI agent was describing in the memo Dick Durbin was reading.
Dick Durbin has said that American men and women are serving heroically.
These policies are un-American.
They make us less secure.
What is important, George, is that Guantanamo be shut down, but that these policies Be shut down.
We need an administration to be held accountable.
We need to have trials.
Bring these people to the United States.
Try them.
Release them if they're not guilty.
But the important thing is that Americans deserve to know what is being done in their name.
And if Durban was provocative and provoking, so be it, because we need some outrage in this country.
Now, one of the reasons been given to justify Howard Dean is that hey, Rush Limbaugh says the same kind of stuff.
Well, when I say stuff like that they think is on the par with what Durbin has said, they they say I should be silenced and I'm harming the public discourse and so forth.
But Durban, his passion has sparked debate, and he's doing wonderful things by provoking discussion on this.
There's just such a double standard on it.
But that's because Durbin's saying what they all really want said.
All right, the uh Ditto Cam is on.
It'll be on for the remaining uh moments of the program today.
Hey, see, I'm I'm wearing a t-shirt today here that I sent out to dry cleaner.
See this t-shirt?
This is probably the tenth time I've worn this t-shirt.
When I go out on a golf course, I don't wear a t-shirt or a golf course.
I go out in the golf course, everybody says, wow, that's a cool new shirt.
Said, Nope.
Had it for about six months.
Well, how do you keep it looking brand new?
I send it to the dry cleaner.
It doesn't shrink either.
You do?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dry cleaning starts with a D. At any rate, 800 282-2882.
All right, one more Katrina Vandenhoovel.
Listen to this.
This is from Stephanopolish's show yesterday.
She's the editor at large in chief and uh over everybody of the nation.
You need a special prosecutor.
And by the way, Antonio Gonzalez, you want to bring back the special prosecutor.
You need a special prosecutor because Antonio Gonzalez, our uh is the attorney general is deeply implicated in these in the memos.
Yes, that's uh he's that that's and uh uh uh Gonzalez is not Antonio, uh the the attorney general is uh uh Yes, Alberto Gonzalez.
And uh he's he's on the short list for Supreme Court nominations, by the way.
So you gotta you gotta give uh you gotta have a special prosecutor out there because he's ziply implicated in the memos.
This sets the table for if he is nominated to the court, why you can't put him on the court, why he's deeply involved in the crimes going on at Gitmo.
So uh just to setting the table here for you.
And the reason for all this is just to keep you up to speed and informed as to who the Democrats are and uh what they believe and what they actually want said out there.
The Well, I've got the McCain middle finger, but but I don't have that on tape.
Um I mean, I can play it for you, but you won't hear anything on it.
It's it's um uh it's uh uh it's all I have is is is the transcription of Russert asking the question.
But he he mentions a whole lot of other things people have said about McCain, but I don't have that on tape.
I've just got McCain's answer.
Now, McCain did laugh.
And here's here's what Russert said to him.
Okay, let's talk about the gang of 14.
Said that we uh will not invoke the nuclear option, which would say that you no longer needed 60 votes to have filibusters to end filibusters, and that some of these candidates the president had nominated would be voted on.
You were roundly roundly discussed and dismissed in some circles.
Human events had this headline McCain, a sellout on principles and party.
Rush Limbaugh said we had McCain fine gold.
This is McCain the middle finger.
Paul Weyrick said McCain can forget about his presidential ambitions and went on and quoted other people.
Uh he only reacted, I'm told, when he heard my quote go by.
They and they said he laughed.
But his answer does not reference uh that or anything else.
So it's it's that's that's why I didn't play audio uh soundbite number one.
David in Norfolk, Virginia.
Hello, sir, welcome to the EIB network.
Hello, Rush.
It's an honor to talk to you.
Thank you, sir.
Yes, I'm sure it is.
And listen, I don't think these uh our our troops should not be prosecuted for the crimes uh like what they uh say.
But I think Dick Durbin is right.
We should not prosecute them.
We should be the people who gave the orders, like the commander-in-chief and Ramsfield.
They're the ones who's responsible for these uh atrocities.
Right, yeah.
So we need to get rid of Rumsfeld.
We need to impeach Bush and uh we need to give uh give Durban the Congressional Medal of Honor.
They need to go to Hague.
Both of them.
They need to go to the Hague don't like the cricket or you want him to go to the international because you want the Hague to try Bush and Rumsfeld.
So you don't believe in justice only Americans only should have the uh I mean why should we do special treatment?
Now how many people we killed in this war?
How many innocent people died?
Let me tell you something, David the truth is that special treatment is what the prisoners at Gitmo are getting they are getting special they all still have their heads none of them are being murdered none of them have been carbombed.
They are being given ample food you you cannot possibly be serious about this.
You must have uh uh how in the world can you see the world the way you do?
I don't literally understand this.
How when you hear what's going on at Gitmot do you want to send Rumsfeld and Bush to the Hague?
Okay how many people died as a result of this war for a lie.
Bush lied to us.
How many people died were a lie Bush didn't lie to us or not off of that Bush did not lie why the Downing what is it the Downing Street memo doesn't say anything and it may be a fake it may be a forgery the Downing Street memo all the down if I'll tell you if you read the whole thing the Downing Street memo will also tell you that the Brits were concerned about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Well Bush didn't deny about the diamond street memo he doesn't come out he doesn't discuss it.
Bush doesn't respond to this asinine little twerp stuff he's gotta run the country.
Do you know this man has a low IK he doesn't respond to the You guys you what must it be like to get up every day and be you David are you do you ever laugh and smile?
Are you happy guy?
Yeah I'm a happy guy but I think I think the this country is going uh uh in a wrong direction you know we destroy the environment and you don't want to believe that we go here we go why don't you just run through the whole left wing liberal litany here of how you think we are running out of energy oil and uh we want to burn the mess we're not running out of energy we're not running out of oil you haven't been right since in one syllable that you've uttered since you got on this program.
You haven't been right in science okay you believe in the American why do you want to go through life being as wrong as you are I can't I'm I'm looking for some serious help here.
What is it that makes you happy being so wrong?
Did you know what Karl Marx said?
He said religion is the opium of the masses.
Isn't that true or not?
David, what do you do for a living?
Wait a minute.
I'm a medical doctor, but do you know that...
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Hijackers.
Hijackers.
Wait a minute.
Who pays you?
The patients.
The patients?
Yeah.
No, they don't.
Not anymore.
Yes.
Government pays you.
Insurance companies pay you.
No.
Just like Karl Marx would always do.
wanted to do I do a lot of free work too you know oh you do a lot of pro bono work oh well Marx would love that yeah anyway uh Karl Marx said that you know the you know the hijackers were on opium aren't they and we had the American Taliban these all the religious fanatics Carl Marx said that the hijackers were on opium the religion is the opium of the masses do you agree that or not?
What what is the hijackers what are they on?
No no I have trouble understanding you what it oh religion is the opiate of the masses.
Yeah because they were so they think Allah is going to protect them and they kill them here comes the anti-Christian screed now uh David do you believe in God?
No you don't I I can I prove it to you there's no God in two minutes in one minute I'll prove it.
No, you you can't prove there's no God Yeah I can prove it.
No you can't okay if I was waiting if I was God I would not create a human being who has to uh I he'd be making perfume instead of crap.
How did you ever get through med school?
You can't into your hands I can't you believe God created with all the crap inside you why would a woman have to have a period every month I would have said no I'll tell you what I so much bel I I so much believe in God that when people like you get to heaven, I think that you will crap.
Yeah, you are the American Taliban.
You are the American Taliban.
Where are you from, David?
Well, uh well, I I live here in the United States.
I know, but why no, but but what is your act?
Where are you from?
I was born in Sri Lanka.
You're born in Sri Lanka.
Yeah.
Okay.
Why did you come here?
This place is the opiate of the masses, is destroying the country.
We're polluting the planet.
Why did you come here?
I came for adventure.
You came what?
You came for adventure.
See the world.
Well, and and you and you've seen the world and you've determined this is the most rotten place on it.
No, I want to change it.
I want to make it better for everybody.
I want to protect the environment.
I want to protect the city.
And you want to do this by letting the bad guys out of Gitmo.
You want Bush and Cheney to be on uh be put on trial in the Hague.
You want us to be punished for global warming and environmental destruction.
You what you want is the destruction of this country as it exists today.
Don't you think we went to war for Halliburton?
Don't you agree?
Why is it?
You believe.
Why isn't this afraid to show you?
I cannot believe you got out of medical school.
I can't.
I can't believe you got out of medical school.
You don't believe in God.
You think you can prove it by the verses of the existence of crap.
You now think that the war was for oil and halliburton.
This is this is a good idea.
Didn't Enron contribute the biggest contribution.
Are you actually a comedian?
And and Enron, you it's an Enron?
Didn't Enron Enron's uh biggest uh politician they contributed to was Bill Clinton.
Oh, there's a there's a movie out called Enron.
You you should see that.
It's playing at the Nero Theater in Norfolk.
You've been to Norfolk.
Yeah, hey, did you see that movie on global warming?
Uh uh what was the name?
Uh did you see the movie the day after?
No, I didn't see that.
I heard about that.
Well, you ought to go see that, man, because if you believe movies are true, that movie would really you might be happy for once if you came out of the theater having watched that movie.
If your historical perspective is based on the movies, you and you haven't seen that, you're missing out on a lot.
So why doesn't George Bush come out and uh discuss the uh this uh Downing Street memo?
Because there's nothing to discuss.
Because George Bush is not gonna the president is not gonna respond to a bunch of little chihuahuas like you yapping at his heels over something that you are totally making up that you you you you uh I I now folks, you understand why intellectually I can't follow these people.
I just this guy's a doctor.
This guy is a doctor.
He's living in the greatest country in the world, wants to destroy it and tear it apart.
He's here for adventure.
This is it's inexplicable.
It's literally this makes me worried to go to the doctor ever again.
And a sincere thanks to David in Norfolk, Virginia, our last caller.
There you have it, folks.
I've been telling you this is who the Democratic Party is, and that's he's not some elected official.
He's uh upper middle class doctor, paid by his patients, he thinks.
And uh, and and he's just out there in in Norfolk, uh, mainstream Democratic Party.
And you heard it.
You heard it.
Now look, Howard Dean's a doctor.
This guy's a doctor.
Move on.org, I think has been around a lot longer than we know, folks, and they're running medical schools as well.
We thought we had problems with the lawyers.
Now we gotta add doctors to it.
Now we also know that at this if this is this uh the paint the nation blue fundraiser tomorrow night featuring uh Dr. Dean and Dick Durbin.
Remember what they said they're gonna present tomorrow night, their positive message, and they're gonna be attacking Republican propaganda.
I I'm wondering if what we heard from David in Norfolk, who we're very appreciative of his time and his call, is that an example of the positive message that Democrats are gonna hear tomorrow night?
String up Bush and Rumsfeld at the Hague.
Enron, Halliburton, oil, global warming.
You think we make this up about who these people are, but we don't.
All right, here we uh cookie went and grabbed the um uh part of the question where McCain is being asked to respond to all these uh uh individual bits of criticism and and when uh Russert gets to quoting me, you will hear McCain laugh ever.
So you have to turn your radio up uh to hear this, or your MP3 player if you're listening to it on the podcast later, but but uh here's how that sounded yesterday.
You were roundly, roundly uh disgust uh and dismissed in some circles.
Rush Limbaugh said we had McCain Feingold.
This is McCain the middle finger.
I'll get that guy.
Yeah, we'll primary said 2008.
He thinks he was big in South Carolina.
Wait till I show him.
No.
It was not design.
Here's Steve in North Las Vegas.
Uh, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hello.
Hey, Russ.
Yeah.
Hey, yeah, here you find.
Oh, cool.
Anybody there?
You hear me?
Oh, yeah, I hear you.
Okay, great.
Okay.
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
Uh I would just kind of wondering here, how would Senators Durbin and Reed and all these other senators be reacting about the treatment of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay now if the if the hijackers had been successful in hitting the Capitol building instead of you know the brave people on board the flight that was lost in Pennsylvania?
That's we'll never know.
That's one of those uh if questions.
Uh, because I I you know the the the obvious uh conclusion you'd make is that they'd be outraged and and so forth uh because nobody attacks Congress.
You can attack the world trade.
You don't attack the people's houses or what have you.
But that's not what this is about anymore.
I mean, the what what their policy depends on is that Americans forget 9-11 happened.
Uh what Durban and the Democrats are actually trying to create here or affect, if you will, is the United States went to war for no reason.
There was nothing that caused this.
We have no business being at war.
We have no business trashing another person's religion or another group of people because of their religion.
We have no business holding these people in a prison down in Cuba.
Who are who do we think we are?
We're not giving them they they do not want people to think that there's a cause and effect relationship here.
They want people to think this is happening because the United States is brutal.
United States is unfair, the United States doesn't deserve to win things.
United Sturts is ignoble and unjust and all that sort of stuff.
So uh it's not just that 9-11 uh didn't target, well, might have targeted, but they missed it, didn't hit the Capitol.
It's that it didn't happen.
It you you cannot say the things Durban and the Democrats are saying uh within the context of 9-11 happened.
You just can't.
This this would be like uh in the post uh Pearl Harbor era.
If we were setting out to attack Japan, we had some Japanese pr well, we did in turn, how many hundred and ten thousand Japanese.
Uh it would have been like the Republicans back then talking about what a rotten guy Roosevelt was.
We need to send him some international court, string him up along with the Secretary of War.
There was no Secretary of Defense back then, and we need to um uh do everything we can to undermine the policy of getting even with Japan for what they did at World War II at Pearl Harbor.
I mean, that's that's essentially what the analogy uh uh would uh would be.
David in in Zachary, Louisiana, you're next.
Have about a minute here, but I wanted to get to you.
Oh, ditto's rush.
Um I'm calling to say McCain is right in a certain way that when he says the the prisoners in Getmo should have trials like the Nazis, because that's who they are.
Uh it drives me crazy when the left says the people down there.
They're not people, they're terrorists.
They they're the Nazis.
I know, and they were rounded up on the battlefield.
They were not rounded up out of these clean living little neighborhoods while they were playing checkers with grandma and grandpa one night while drinking milk.
They were rounded up on the battlefield.
McCain's McCain's Eichmann analysis.
I still can't believe it.
Yeah, Eichmann, we put him on trial 16 years after World War II.
We had to hunt the guy down in Brazil to go get him.
He was tried in Israel.
He was convicted in 1962, or executed in 1962.
And to compare what's going on at Gitmota, what we did with Eichmann is to have had he has to have an historical uh uh uh blip in his brain yesterday while on the program because it's not analogous at all.
We'll be back, gotta run, but stay with us.
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There is no God.
There is no God.
We had a liberal caller from uh Norfolk, Virginia, who said he could prove it.
Uh and the proof there is no God is the menstrual cycle for women and uh bowel movements for everybody.
But no God would have ever really done that.
Uh and so uh just well I just want to make sure everybody knows about this because it's big news when you have proof that there's no God.
And it happened right here today on the Rush Limbaugh program.
And that's big news.
So I want to make sure everybody heard it.
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