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June 20, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 20, 2005, Monday, Hour #1
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You see where Tom Cruise got tortured?
Tom Cruise went exactly right, Mr. Snerdley.
Tom Cruise was tortured.
They squirted him with water.
Isn't that what we hear goes on at Gitmo?
Greetings, my friends, and welcome.
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And we're back at you for a week's worth of broadcast excellence here, the EIV Network and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Four men were arrested.
When was this?
June the 19th.
What's today?
The 20, I guess it's last night.
Four men were arrested after Hollywood star Tom Cruise was drenched with water at the London premiere of his new movie.
They were working on a new Channel 4 comedy program and now may be charged with assaulting Cruz.
He reacted angrily to the prank, repeatedly calling the man who soaked him a jerk.
Cruz was on, I wonder what Dick Durbin will say about this and what it might mean to the news business over in, I guess this is in Ireland where this happened.
Cruz was on a walkabout talking to some of the 5,000 fans who had packed into the movie theater for this premiere of War of the Worlds.
He was accompanied by his new bought and paid for fiance.
Sorry, but accompanied by his fiancé.
Sorry about that, Dawn.
It always offends women when you call another woman bought and paid for.
Anyway, fiancé, what's her name?
Holmes somebody.
And he answered questions from journalists.
A bogus reporter wearing a white and green t-shirt stuck out a joke microphone and used it to squirt water at Cruz's face.
Now, this is similar to the things that happened in Gitmo.
Now, we even heard about it.
Remember Michael Duffy complaining about this innocent, childlike 20th hijacker who had water squirted on him.
And so I think it's safe to say, based on the way news is being defined these days, that Tom Cruise was tortured and his movie premiere.
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Five-day weather forecast for today in Baghdad, 110.
Today at Gitmo, 90 degrees.
A little heat wave down there.
It was 87 most of last week.
The Club Gitmo brochure is still prominent on rushlimbaugh.com, as is the Club Gitmo t-shirt, four different t-shirts.
They're walking out of there.
They're running out of there like hotcakes.
I mean, even through the weekend, people were snapping these things up.
And so they're there.
And we're still looking at adding new items to the store.
And as they are added, we'll pass it on to you.
Podcasting continues as well for subscribers at rushlimbaugh.com.
All right.
We got a lot on the agenda here today.
I purposely haven't talked about this Downing Street memo much because, frankly, A, it didn't interest me.
And you know, if it doesn't interest me, I'm not going to talk about it.
And the reason it didn't interest me is because it was just another one of these ginned up things by the libs.
And it looks like it's got some similarities to Bill Burkett and the forged documents, the CBS and Rathergate.
In fact, the Associated Press has a story that the reporter who discovered the memos destroyed the originals and retyped them himself.
There was some dispute over whether or not the original memos were destroyed.
The original memos don't say anything.
They don't prove anything other than the Brits were concerned about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq themselves.
Also, there's a, what's this reporter's name?
Because when I, Michael Smith, British reporter Michael Smith, who broke the memo story of the London Times on May the 1st, revealed to the AP over the weekend that he protected the identity of the source that he had obtained the documents from by typing copies of them on plain paper and destroying the originals.
His admission means there's now no independent way to determine the accuracy of the Downing Street memo, i.e. whether he made any typos or transcription errors that could have changed the memo's meaning.
Now, the Downing Street, there's some differences here, the Downing Street memo and the Rathergate.
The Rathergate stuff was purportedly, those memos are 20-year-old, 20 years old, written by a dead guy.
Well, I forget the name of the commanding officer at Bush's National Guard unit, but he's the guy who supposedly wrote them.
These memo, the Downing Street memo, they're current.
The people all involved are still alive, and they haven't denied any of this, and you would think they would if they were not true.
But it appears to be much ado about nothing.
It seems to be one of these things that the paranoid conspiracy-oriented left is glomming onto now.
But when I saw this name, Michael Smith, somebody, I haven't had time today, folks.
I've been swamped here this morning.
You would not believe the intensity of show prep today because it's been quite intense just to catch up with everything and get it all organized here.
But Mr. Sterdley, would you do something for me?
Or somebody out there research-wise, it seems to me, this name Michael Smith, it seems to me that there was a guy by the same name who worked with Mary Mapes at CBS during this whole Rathergate.
My memory could be all over the ballpark on this.
So I'm not saying it's the same guy.
I'm not even sure, but it seems to me that in all the names that I remember seeing involved in this that are no longer working at CBS, he wasn't a producer or anything like that.
His name wasn't part of the investigation that Thornburg and the AP guy, whoever his name turned up, he's what?
There was a Texas journalist.
There was a Texas journalist named Michael Smith that was associated with Burkitt.
Mary Mapes.
But you're sure this guy, well, is he still in Texas or is he in the UK?
I know Michael Smith is a common name.
There are probably a thousand of them in New York alone or in any large population.
I don't know.
I saw the name.
I was like, hmm, it's very strange.
At any rate, the Downing Street memo, the reason it's such an item in the news, it's because it's what spawned this mock impeachment hearing that took place Thursday night in Washington.
This is the thing that was chaired by John Conyers.
And this is where all the anti-Semitism came out of the mouths of a bunch of Democrats that participated in this thing.
And it's that which Howard Dean has now had to go out and say, anti-Semitism, that's not part of our party, blah, blah, blah.
It is, folks, it is amazing the way you've got Durbin.
Does anybody remember the name Trent Lott?
Trent Lott was forced to give up his leadership position, almost had to resign the Senate over this.
Joe McCarthy was sent packing simply because he accused people of being communists.
Here you have Durbin out there standing by his remarks that the prison treatment in Gitmo is no different than Nazism or the gulags of the Soviet Union or Pol Pot in Cambodia.
Not one Democrat has condemned this, not even the so-called moderate Joe Lieberman, not even Hillary Clinton, who's running for president.
But besides that, no Republican has demanded that, other than Newt, but no Republican has demanded that Durbin be censured or that he resign or neither party has.
And this is providing more aid and comfort for the enemy than anything that's going on in these prisons.
You know, Al-Qaeda attacks innocent civilians.
For us to be worried about what's going to happen to our soldiers.
Can I show you, tell you just how weird this is?
McCain's on Meet the Press yesterday.
Oh, by the way, did you hear this?
Russert asked McCain to react to my statement on this program that first we had McCain fine gold and we had McCain the middle finger with the judge deal.
And McCain just laughed.
But McCain's out there saying that the way we're treating these prisoners, we've got to do something.
We've got to adjudicate their cases because it's going to cause our men and women in uniform to be treated even more harshly in future wars down the road and so forth.
And I'm thinking, Al-Qaeda attacks innocent civilians.
Al-Qaeda hijacks airplanes and flies them into buildings in the Pentagon.
However we treat their prisoners versus how our soldiers are going to be treated as POWs is not really the point.
In terms of identifying who the enemy is, Al-Qaeda and these terrorists attack innocent civilians.
They're cowards, basically.
They blow up their own kids.
And we're worried that we can affect how they're going to treat people by virtue of how we conduct ourselves as prison guards.
I mean, none of this makes any sense whatsoever.
And there just seems to be so much shyness and so many people acting timid in Washington over what Durbin has said.
And it just keeps adding up.
Then the Democrats out there talking about anti-Semitism and they're back to Bush wanting to take over Iraq for oil and create a massive base for the neocons in the Middle East in the name of Israel and so forth.
And it's wacko stuff.
It's wacko stuff, but they can't, you know, Hillary, she wants to be president, but she can't condemn any of this because the number one contributor, moveon.org, and all these wacko fringe groups would be offended that Durbin's saying what they, in fact, Durbin's being encouraged to keep talking by some Democrats.
It's just, it's mind-boggling.
So there's a lot here on the plate today that we'll get to in greater detail.
There's some laughers out there, too.
Kiahead, Joe Biden, says he wants to run for president.
Again, he tried that back in 1998.
So we're going to be all over the ballpark today, folks, with lots of interesting, fun stuff.
So just sit tight.
We will come back after our first EIB obscene profit center timeout, get started with all the rest of today's exciting excursion into broadcast excellence.
Hey, we are having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
Rush Limbaugh, the excellence in broadcasting networks, Senator Durbin's comparison of the treatment of al-Qaeda prisoners at Gitmo to Nazi and Soviet gulag atrocities, sharply criticized by constituents and newspapers in his home state.
His accusations drew a storm of voter complaint in Illinois, editorial rebuke by its biggest newspaper, and an uneasiness in his party over the potentially damaging fallout.
I don't believe that.
Okay, there might be some uneasiness in pockets of his party, but the vast majority of the party, I haven't heard anybody stand up and say, shut up.
I haven't heard anybody stand up and say, apologize, not on the Democrat side.
Where are the serious calls for the guy to resign?
We joked about this.
We've had our fun with it for a week, but it is, you know, it's getting to the point now where you start comparing it to other things that have happened recently and in long ago history.
And you have to wonder what really has changed here.
One state Democratic operative called the charges inflammatory.
Michael O'Hanlon, a Brookings Institution, national security analyst who backed John Kerry, who served in Vietnam but was never in prison, said any efforts to make an analogy between Stalin's gulag and Guantanamo is absurd on its face and also harmful in the war on terror because there's already an inclination to believe the worst about us.
Who cares?
This is another thing that bothers me.
What if they're wrong?
We want to respond to these people that people are saying, well, Russ, perception is reality.
No, it's not.
Perception is perception.
Words mean things.
Reality is reality.
So if we're going to operate on the perception that we are hated, we know we are, but we also know why.
Are we going to change who we are so we won't be hated?
No.
Well, I'm not so sure if Democrats get in power.
That's called appeasement.
And that might be exactly what they want to do.
But inclination, it's bad enough already because of the inclination to believe the worst about us.
What is this?
Durbin did, I think last week or over the weekend, took a stab at apologizing, ladies and gentlemen, but it wasn't really an apology, and he got a little grief from some people for going too far in his apology.
Now, what he's saying is, you know, you people are just too stupid to understand what I'm saying.
Some of these people are just too stupid.
And this crazy, crazy guy, George Lakoff.
Let me find this.
Lackoff, well, that's about Dean, but it's pretty much, I'll save that for Dean.
But Lackoff is saying Dean's comments out there about white Christians in the Republican Party and all that.
The reason that that's big news is because it's the Republicans' fault.
It's the Republicans' fault in how they're broadcasting and emphasizing what Dean is saying rather than just let it go.
To watch and listen to some of this stuff is to twist your brain into a pretzel and not be able to make tracks of anything, make sense of anything here.
Richard Stallings, Idaho Democratic Party chairman, former congressman, said, Durbin's kind of rhetoric concerns me.
There's no way you can make that parallel.
New Mexico's Democratic State Party chairman, John Wertheim, Arizona Party Chairman Jim Peterson, similarly rejected Durbin's choice of words.
But while there are pockets of people concerned, there's this.
Senator Durbin, the Illinois Democrat, who's caused a firestorm of protest for comparing treatment of U.S. detainees to actions by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime, Paul Potter, others.
Dick Durbin will be marched out by the Democratic National Committee tomorrow night to appear alongside Howard Dean at a Paint the Nation Blue fundraising event.
Retired Navy Commander Paul Galante, a former prisoner of war, says he's been inundated with correspondence after firing off a letter to Mr. Durbin that in turn got posted on bulletin boards from West Point to the Pentagon.
Commander Galante said, I just got mad.
If Durbin wanted to state his case, he should have called Donald Rumsfeld.
Instead, he decided to make political hay hitting the U.S. military when they're down.
Now, at the Paint the Nation Blue event tomorrow night, Andrew Wright, a DNC finance director, says that Dean and Durbin will reach out to all Americans with our positive agenda for the future.
We'll stand and fight the propaganda and destructive policies of the Republican Party.
The event will be held at the National Museum of Women in the Arts on New York Avenue, Northwest at 7 o'clock tomorrow night.
So don't believe this stuff that the Democrats are embarrassed and a little skittish over what Durbin said.
The DNC's trotting him out at a huge fundraiser tomorrow night entitled Paint the Nation Blue.
And how about this?
They will reach out to all Americans with their positive agenda for the future.
They will stand and fight the propaganda and the destructive policies of the Republican.
This is surreal.
We're back to Twilight Zone time here.
But anyway, it's a giant C.
I told you so.
I told you last week, don't believe the Democrats don't want this said.
They want it said.
They are excited he's saying it, and he's being rewarded for saying it.
They're bringing him out at a fundraiser.
That ought to tell you exactly who it is that defines the Democratic mainstream today.
If there are people that are going to contribute big bucks because of what Durbin said, then you can get an idea.
You know exactly who the Democratic Party is.
What I'd like to know also, you know, whenever Trent Lott says something or whenever a Republican or Bush or anybody says something, the first thing the media does is go out and take a poll on it.
What do you think of what X said?
Why are there no big media polls on the public's opinion of Durbin, Durbin's statement, and whether he should remain the Democrats' number two Senate leader?
They like to poll everything else.
Why hold back on this?
Well, I'll explain it.
I'll answer my own question because I probably ask myself some of the best questions anybody ever asks me, and therefore I answer them really well.
The reason there's no polling on this is that polling is done for political reasons.
A poll would show public disgust with Durbin and his fellow Democrats for their silence.
It would show the public wanting Durbin out, and all of this would prevent these newspapers from writing that Republicans are the only ones who want Durbin out.
Right now, they're writing it's just Republicans that think Durbin's a creep and is in trouble and causing problems.
They don't want to have to report that Democrats across the country think the same thing, too.
And it's also about the fact that polls have just become the latest editorials.
A poll is simply the way a media, you know, editorial writers, they never sign their names to anything.
They can sit back, unlike me or anybody else in the media that attaches their names to their beliefs.
Editorial writers never do.
You don't know who writes these editorials in any paper.
You don't know.
They don't take a stand.
They don't stick their neck out.
They write on the basis of we are the newspaper speaking or we are the network speaking or whatever.
Well, they're using polls as editorials.
They'll go out and take a poll to get the editorial position of some guy on the editorial board, and then they'll publish the news of that poll as though it's real news.
It's just a way to get an editorial statement.
Well, none of them have any editorial opposition to Dick Durbin.
Ergo, there's not a poll even being taken.
And if there were, the results wouldn't be published.
We'll be back after this, folks.
Don't go away.
Here we are, the cutting edge of societal evolution, kicking off a brand new week of big time radio, big time broadcasting here on the Excellence in Broadcasting Network of the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Let me deal with something here quickly.
Jerry in Fresno.
Hi.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Yes, Rush.
Jerry, I'm just out of Fresno right now, but I'm from Southern California.
Listen, longtime listener, longtime supporter of Rush.
I have a lot of respect for you, but I got to tell you, you took a bad cow shot at Katie Holmes this morning.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
She's not bought and paid for.
She's a pretty good star in her own right, and she comes from a fine, wonderful family in Ohio.
And I just, I just think that that wasn't a rush.
That was, that was a.
Yeah, yeah, I, I, I, I will admit.
I don't know this to be true, and that's why I stopped myself there.
I've just been reading the gossip columns about this, and what I said is mild compared to what the gossip columns are saying.
The latest gossip is that there's a five-year contract.
She gets $5 million, no sex, plus the rating.
I'm Top Dab Ted's telling you that's what's out there about this relationship.
Well, that's BS.
Her dad's a good friend of mine.
She's made a lot of money herself.
She's an up-and-coming son.
Good kid.
Look, unlike Durbin, I apologize.
I don't know that about Katie Holmes.
I was repeating a bunch of gossip tripe.
You are absolutely right.
I apologize, and I beg the American people for forgiveness on this.
It was clearly an error.
It was an error in judgment.
It was intemperate on my part.
And I feel terrible about it because I don't know the woman.
I don't even know Cruz.
It just goes to show you what happens when you read the wrong things.
I know that gossip items don't get it right because they never get it right about me.
So you're absolutely right out there, Jerry.
And I want to be big about this.
And I'm apologizing.
I took his as the first call, folks, because I wanted to deal with this in real time as it happened.
I am sorry.
I apologize.
I take it all back.
I don't know if it's true or not.
So I shouldn't have even said it.
You're absolutely right, Jerry.
I feel liberated now.
I feel better because that was a horrible thing to say.
It was terribly intemperate.
It was, and you couldn't even say it's harmless.
It was hurtful to Katie Holmes' family, and it's probably wrong.
And I am just, I am terribly sorry about.
It's not big enough to resign over.
No, I'm not going to resign.
Not over this.
But I do – I feel very badly about it, and so I'm happy to have the opportunity here within moments of making the slip up, slip of the tongue, within literal moments here, making it up to a – I apologize.
I am sorry.
I am not going to say that you people are too stupid to not understand what I said.
I am not going to accuse you of hearing something I didn't say.
And I'm not going to accuse you of putting words in my mouth.
And I'm not.
And I do regret that my comments may have offended you.
But unlike others in the public domain and the public arena out there, ladies and gentlemen, I am not going to blame the press or this caller for amplifying my remarks on Katie Holmes.
It was a terrible thing to say, and I am indeed sorry for it.
Now, let me move on to other items here.
You see how easy it is, Senator Durbin.
The Democrats don't hesitate for two seconds, ladies and gentlemen, to demand the resignation of Donald Rumsfeld.
But Dick Durbin makes a statement, refuses to rescind it, that truly gives a propaganda bonanza to the enemy while our troops are bravely fighting them.
We can't even find one Republican to demand his censure or his resignation from a leadership post other than Newt Gingrich.
Dick Durbin has had a week now to provide a straightforward apology, but he won't.
And the reason is that he's not sorry.
He's looking for ways to quiet the political firestorm, but without backing off from his statement.
His fellow Democrats have had a week to take action to wash themselves of his comments, but they won't.
They may as well have Michael Moore as the real spokesman of the Democratic Party.
As I said earlier, Joe McCarthy, you know what happened to him?
McCarthy was banished to the grave practically, and all he did was accuse people of being communists.
That's all he did.
To this day, McCarthyism is its own ism.
McCarthy, you can be an it.
You can be a McCarthyite.
All you have to do, and some of the people he accused of being communists were.
So McCarthyism, when it boils down to it, is the false accusation or the true accusation that somebody is a communist.
And they ran him out of town for that, and they ran him to his grave.
And to this day, when you say the name Joe McCarthy, the libs in this country go absolutely bonkers.
The first time I spoke like this about McCarthy, I heard from Tom Snyder, who was livid over what I had said.
McCarthy was the worst American to ever walk, ever breathe, ever live.
And a lot of libs to this day still think the same thing.
And all he did was accuse people as a senator, and he did it as a chairman of a committee, and there were formal hearings, but all he did was accuse them.
Some of them falsely, some of them accurately.
But that's, look what happened to him versus Durbin.
The fact that, you know, McCarthy is banished and is relegated to the pile of shame in history is applauded by the likes of Dick Durbin and his ilk.
What Durbin did here, I submit to you, is worse than what McCarthy did.
When you accuse our troops and prison guards of being no different than Nazi stormtroopers during a war or no different than Pol Pot or the Soviet gulag types, I mean, what are we talking about here?
McCarthyism in reverse?
And to be honest with you, folks, I'm going to tell you, I'm troubled by the refusal of either party to demand any action against Durbin, censure, resignation from his leadership post, resignation from the Senate.
Just go back and look at the firestorm over a comparatively harmless comment that Trent Lott made about Strom Thurmond.
Comparatively, it was nothing.
Comparatively, what Lott said was a joke, albeit a bad one, but it was a joke.
This is serious stuff.
And where is the outcry from the same crowd that demanded we get rid of Lott?
And of course, the Republicans all chimed in, Lott's got to go because it was time to bend over and grab the ankles for the race baiters in this society because they're raising on everybody's afraid of the race baiters.
Don't want to be called a racist yourself and you don't want to be linked to one.
So bam all.
Unless, of course, it's Robert Byrd.
And then we get to read his latest autobiography, which recounts again the wonderful, glorious story of how the KKK recruited him and got him into politics.
It was some gland wizard, Kliegel, whatever they call these leaders that suggested Bob Byrd needed to go into politics way back in West Virginia.
That's right.
Bob Byrd, in his 700 and some odd page memoir on this, he was elected by the Klan to be exalted cyclops.
You ever heard of that term, Brian?
A Klan term?
I'm learning all kinds of Klan terms.
I don't even know existed.
Exalted Cyclops.
Anyway, the silence of the Democrats on this is truly astounding.
Hillary Clinton wants to be president.
She can't bring herself to be heard on this.
And I wonder why.
Now, I'll tell you why.
It's because moveon.org and the hard left agrees with Durbin, and so she has to as well.
She can't distance herself from this.
Nobody can.
Joe Lieberman, he's demonstrating why there's no such thing as a moderate Democrat in the Senate.
When it comes to really drawing the line, he won't and doesn't.
So I don't want to hear any more about moderate Democrats in the Senate because there's nothing moderate about what Durbin did.
And if there were some, genuine, moderate Democrats in the Senate, there would be some genuine, full-fledged, full-voiced anger, upset, and outrage over it.
But there isn't.
As I say, Durbin's being trotted out with Howard Dean tomorrow night in a Paint the Nation blue fundraising rally in Washington, D.C. That's about all that you need to know about this.
Dan in Kingman, Arizona.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to the program.
Hey, Rush, big-time bidders from Mojave County, Arizona.
Thank you, Chad.
I wanted to point out a couple of things.
Dick Durbin, I believe, was involved.
He was one of three Democrat senators probably about six months ago that was going to be investigated for leaking top-secret information that he had obtained off the Senate Intelligence Committee.
And for some reason, they dropped it.
And I know one of the other senators was Jay Rockefeller, and I can't remember the third.
I have a vague memory of this.
I don't remember what it was about.
We'll try to find it.
But I have a vague memory.
It's a secret stealth satellite called the MISTI program.
And they were arguing over the budget and stuff like that, and he leaked the information.
Oh, I know what it was.
They leaked that the Pentagon was working on a new stealth aircraft.
Actually, it was one of these black programs, black off-budget programs, I think CIA-oriented, in order to keep it really secret, and they leaked it.
And I don't remember Durbin being a part of it.
I do remember Rockefeller being part of it.
Durbin, and there was another one.
I swear, I thought it began with a W, like another Democrat senator from somewhere in the South, I think Wagon or something like that.
But the point is, I'm retired in military intelligence, and I was somewhat involved in that, a little bit.
And when that thing blew, that program was starting on Ronald Reagan, and it was kept secret all those years.
And he blabbed it out to the media, which kind of told everybody.
Yeah, and you remember why they did it?
Or why they said they did it?
No, the reason they said they did it was budgetary.
They're worried about the deficit, and they wanted to call attention to this out-of-control spending on this new stealth black off-budget program involving some new kind of fighter.
the truth is they wanted to kill it and that's why they leaked it they wanted yeah i hear but this is another example leaking off-budget that they knew about and it approved of long ago research on a new type of fighter aircraft And when you leak it and do damage to it by announcing an existence, who are you aiding and abetting there, folks?
You fill in the blank, answer the question.
We'll be back.
Thanks, Dan, for the phone call.
Stay with us.
By the way, somebody tell me why we ought to listen to what Bill Clinton thinks we ought to do at Gitmo.
This guy never cared a whit about terrorism during his whole eight years.
He turned Waco 10,000 degrees.
He's worried about the air conditioning going on and off down at Gitmo.
And Jimmy Carter, Jimmy Carter, we're worried about what Jimmy Carter thinks about goes on Gitmo.
Why should we care?
We shouldn't care, and we don't care.
Mainstream press just keeps shoveling this stuff at us.
And we're like five-year-olds who don't like the peas saying, no, mammy, no, mammy.
You don't want to read that.
And so the circulation keeps dropping.
All right, we found it here.
It was a spy satellite.
Here's the story.
The Justice Department's been asked to investigate who disclosed.
This is December 14th of last year, December 14th, 2004.
The Justice Department's been asked to investigate who disclosed secret details about a mysterious and expensive U.S. spy satellite project.
Federal law enforcement officials said Tuesday.
The request came from an unspecified intelligence agency.
Under justice guidelines, prosecutors must review such requests and ensure that they meet strict requirements such as whether the information had been properly classified before they agree to begin a criminal investigation.
If an investigation is approved, and I don't know whether it was, it would target people who described sensitive details about the satellite to the Washington Post, which published the story on Saturday, which I assume was December maybe the 11th or 12th.
I didn't bother looking it up, but it's within the 14th range of the 14th.
The Post executive editor Leonard Downey said the newspaper does not discuss its sources.
Yeah, that's how you get scooped by Vanity Fair on Deep Throat.
Idiots.
The Justice Department already has a high-profile leak investigation underway.
It's probing who in the Bush administration disclosed the name of Valerie Playhouse, right?
We had to stop the presses, and we had to turn over every nook and cranny to find out about that.
But here you got, turns out three senators were leaking information.
It's Jay Rockefeller and the other Democrats, Senators Richard Durbin of Illinois, Carl Levin of Michigan, and Ron Wyden of Oregon all refused last week to sign a compromise bill that was part of Congress' new blueprint for U.S. intelligence spending.
Despite their complaints, the Senate voted to send the bill, including the disputed program, to President Bush for approval.
So it was Durbin, Rockefeller, Levin, and Ron Wyden of Oregon.
Dan and Kingman thought it was somebody named Wagon from the South.
But I'll guarantee you this, Dan, Ron Wyden couldn't find the South.
If they gave him a map of the United States and a pointer and said, show us the South here, Senator, he couldn't do it.
Remember, Wyden couldn't point out some foreign country.
He couldn't.
Yeah, during the Bosnia War, they asked him in a press connect, can you tell us where it is, Senator?
And he couldn't find it.
He couldn't find it on the map.
And he's one of the guys leaking here.
Rockefeller, well, refused.
They're the ones that made the information public possible.
So, yes, Dan from Kingman, Arizona, right on the money about that.
Just another indictment of Durbin and his leanings here, if you will.
Joe in Portsmouth, Rhode Island.
Welcome to the EIB Network.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
Honored to speak to you.
I was wondering how John McCain would feel if he was a POW, which he was, if he were put on trial by the North Vietnamese, and he's calling for trials for these people.
You don't put POWs on trial.
You hold them to the end of the war, and then you negotiate for their release.
Well, we're going to talk about McCain in the opening monologue of the next hour because I've got some audio sound bites from him on Meet the Press yesterday.
And he was asked about this Guantanamo thing, and he said something.
Well, I'll just give you a heads up.
I'll see if you all can figure it out on your own before I get to it.
He said, he said, I mean, look, even Adolf Eichmann got a trial.
Yes, that's true.
For those of you too young to know, Adolf Eichmann was the architect of the Nazi death camps and the gassing of six million Jews and the murdering of the murder of countless others.
Adolf Eichmann got a trial.
Yeah, he did.
He got a trial.
Well, you tell me that McCain offered that as a, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that makes my point.
Even Adolph Eichmann got a trial.
Well, there's something seriously flawed about that analogy.
And I'm going to announce what that flaw is at the beginning of the next hour.
If you think of it in the meantime, then gold star to you.
Back after this.
Stay with us.
From today's Boston Herald walking a tightrope on a politically charged issue, Senator John Kerry, who served in Vietnam but did not serve in prison, vowed weeks ago to raise the controversial Downing Street memo as an issue in Washington, but he has since publicly held his tongue on the matter.
And a lot of people don't understand why.
I mean, he was really out there.
You know, he was, remember, Kerry was going to lead the impeachment charge on the Downing Street memo, and he's backed off and he hasn't done it.
And these kooks are taking it and carrying the water on this.
John Conyers and that bunch of, I don't know what you'd even call them, this renegade bunch of mongrels that gathered Thursday night in Washington.
But I know why he's being cautious, because we don't know if the things are legitimate.
The originals have been destroyed.
And they don't say anything anyway.
They don't say anything that the conspirators actually think that the Downing Street memos say.
And that's why the mainstream press has been slow to pick it up because they aren't convinced either, which is why the kooks and the Democratic Party are the ones only carrying the water on this all the way up the hill.
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