Richard Spencer argues antisemitism has become profitable, citing polls showing a shift where more people now question if Jews are a problem compared to the 1990s. He critiques Tucker Carlson's guests for using a theological "shell game" that avoids addressing Israel's secular status while claiming support for Netanyahu, labeling this cognitive failure as uniquely intense because it frames Jews as having rejected their own Messiah. Ultimately, Spencer suggests this complex prejudice necessitates immediate action against Iran and threatens Christianity's ability to address progressive genocide. [Automatically generated summary]
Now, much like Bibbi Netyahoo has been talking about a nuclear weapon in Iran for decades.
Green Blatt and the ADL and all those people, they've been saying the same thing about the rise of anti-Semitism.
But I think they're actually right.
I think anti-Semitism has achieved escape velocity at this point.
There was another time when being Kevin McDonald was totally not profitable.
And being Kevin McDonald, to be fair, might still be not profitable.
You know, you're writing books and what have you.
But take my meaning here.
Being a semi, let's just call it out, a sort of racial anti-Semite, as Kevin McDonald is, that was not profitable.
You were marginalized.
You would get sort of shoved out of the university in some way.
You can't keep up your website.
You're getting banned.
No one's donating.
I mean, all of these problems.
And we seem to have crossed a Rubicon where in fact, hating on the Jews makes you money.
And I just, I think that's it.
It's all about incentives on some point.
We're all a bunch of like gerbils in cages.
And if you press a button and you get food, you do, you keep pressing the button.
It just is that, basically.
And I mean, again, I have a lot of criticism of the type of anti-Semitism that is now popular, but you cannot deny that it is a phenomenon.
And polls coming from highly respected institutions like Pew just bear this out.
Young people have given up on Israel, particularly on the left, but you also see it on the right.
And are the Jews a problem?
I mean, we can go look at those stats on polling, but more people are saying that now, whereas I would imagine 2% of the population would have said that in the 1990s.
So something has happened.
There has been an awakening.
And maybe you could also say that Bibby Netanyahu is quite aware of this.
And in some way, this regime change war against Iran had to happen now because it won't be possible under a Kamala Harris presidency in 2028 or a Mumdami presidency in 2032 or whatever is going to happen.
It won't be possible anymore.
You've got to do it right this instant.
There actually are enough right-wingers.
They still barely outnumber the anti-Semites, the Christian Zionists or Zionist Christians.
So you got to strike now.
And they did it.
But what, I guess I'll ask like an open-ended question.
And then I want to play this clip of Kerry Prajean Bowler on the Tucker Carlson program.
We can sort of go into it because I think there's some particular qualities of this.
But what do you make of the general phenomenon of anti-Semitism?
Let's just call it.
I don't even want to call it anti-Zionism.
Let's just call it what it is.
Anti-Semitism and its popularity and ubiquity at this point.
What are just some thoughts on this?
It's fascinating to me because we've been talking about these questions.
We've been highlighting them at a point where the game of Wacamal was playable for the ADL.
Because as long as you don't have the critical mass of the anti-Semites, you can knock them one by one.
And I paid extremely dearly in my life the price of touching those questions.
Because when you're alone, you get the whack and it's easy to whack you.
But inevitably, there was going to be a mass that arises.
It's like, at this point, what can the ADL do against Karen Prigine Bowler?
It's like, are you going to ruin the reputation of this beautiful old lady?
It's unfeasible.
And that has been my hope for a long time.
The MILF's attack.
You have no chance.
You can't do anything about the MILF.
or defense cesaro.
It was my hope that the mass would become unmanageable because single targeting is unviable.
And ADL tried scaling what they're doing basically into legal harassment, AI-controlled campaign, which is literally Jonathan Greenblatt was describing that they have an AI system that if you have a problem with someone saying anti-Semitic stuff, the AI is going to give you all of the paths in which you can give them legal trouble, even if it's not related to their anti-Semitic statement.
Let's get this guy into trouble with child protective service.
Let's get this guy divorced.
Let's get this guy targeted by police in his local area.
So it's like, yeah, they do have the machine, but you're not going to pull this against a whole population of people who are living under the cultural influence of the streams that we've been part of.
So it has become unfeasible, and that I'm thankful for.
But, and perhaps there you can play the Karen Priscine clip.
It is not an anti-Semitism that properly presents itself.
And it is an anti-Semitism that comes incomplete.
There is an unwillingness to say the right things here.
And it's all very clear what they're saying.
Tucker Carlson, Carrie, even Joe Kent this morning.
It's all very clear what they're saying, but they still are avoiding the keywords.
Why?
Is it because they are not willing, they are not just willing to dip the toes, but not willing to go there?
Is it because of social taboos?
Or is it because fundamentally they still do not understand the situation?
I'm wondering.
Because when you use bizarre phrasings, sometimes it indicates a failure of understanding the true phenomenon.
And I'm wondering if these people actually understand it.
Let's just listen to a little bit of this.
I might even play like five or seven minutes because it is, she's getting at a theology here, and it's worth pointing that out.
Our own people.
Did either one of them, so Dan is a self-described Christian.
Contradictions in Christian Theology00:12:36
Paula White is some kind of Christian minister, I guess.
I want to be clear, it doesn't look like Christianity to me, but I'm trying not to judge.
But did either one of them?
Okay.
Sorry, I'm just jumping in.
Tucker feigns ignorance constantly, but then he's now, but then on the other side of his mouth, he calls out heretics or something.
Like Paula White is not a Christian.
Like, okay, well, what is?
Like, are you like an Episcopalian dogmatist or something?
Like, I don't, it's just, I don't know.
Obviously, she's a Christian.
She believes that the only way to get to heaven is to put your faith in Jesus Christ who redeemed you for your sins.
So she's a Christian.
All right, let's just stop the nonsense.
I don't like it either.
I would never attend her crazy churches, but like, I'm not going to, I don't know.
I guess I'm not going to denounce like, oh, you're not a real Christian.
You're going to hell or something.
I'm not sure about that.
It's the loosest, most passive, aggressive heretics chase ever.
Yes.
The Christian faith is supporting the Netanyahu government.
Do they explain the theology there?
Because I don't understand it.
Yeah, no, they never.
Okay.
Do you see just the little, like, it's a shell game because they say the Netanyahu government is what he said.
He didn't say Israel.
So like, so what they're doing is they're playing this little shell game where it's like, oh, the Netanyahu government?
Oh, that's in the Bible.
That's not in my Bible.
I don't know.
it's like, okay, Israel is obviously in the Bible in many different forms.
The Torah is a story of people like Abraham, marginal people in many ways, who make a covenant with God and are promised that they're going to have more children than the stars in the sky, and you will have a holy land.
Exodus is the story, many generations later, of a former slave population being oppressed, marching into the holy land.
And by the end of the Torah, they've done it.
They've committed genocide against an indigenous population.
But anyway, I won't say that, but they've done it.
They have the Holy Land.
That is your Bible.
And so like to play this little shell game where it's like, oh, does God support Netanyahu or something?
That's just not serious.
And you're denying the reality of your own religion.
Like you hold the Torah to be sacred.
And this is where Christianity fails.
Because if you start on false ground, if you start with, oh, I adore and sanctify this book.
Okay, well, it's a history book kind of and a moral book kind of, certainly not factually correct, certainly collected across various streams of uncontrollable streams of information.
And it's like, okay, well, if that's the word of God, then you don't have an intellectual process to even get to where you were.
So your only question left is, oh, well, was that in my book?
Was that in that book?
And this is the big cognitive failure of Christianity.
And I believe it will be a doom for Christianity.
This fact of not cultivating deeper understanding, this dogmatic reflex of, well, is that the truth in the Bible?
Well, do you realize that you're never, you cannot have a book that tells you everything about the future?
It's just physically impossible.
And so, yeah, I think it illustrates why ultimately American Christianity will stay in place and fail.
Now, they will survive over hundreds of years, but they will be unable to call out the progressive genocide that's happening to them.
And they will just stay silent in front of it because it's not in their Bible.
Right.
And it's the same movement that gave birth to Kary Janine Bol also gave birth to the Iran war.
And no other movement has successfully done that.
So is there something going on with the fact that you're making a theological criticism of the Iran war?
Do you think that there might be something to that that it's sort of inherently self-defeating?
But let's go on because she gets into like the temple and all this kind of stuff.
Never explain it.
They just said, you can't have your theology.
You can't believe what you want.
You have to submit to ours.
But their theology is that Christians are required as a matter of faith to support the government of Israel.
Oh, yeah.
Do you see how he keeps doing that?
It's a shell game.
I did magic when I was a kid.
I loved being a magician.
And so I know what you do, right?
The ball, you tell the person that the little ball is in that shell.
It's not.
It's in this shell.
It's in the other one.
And you reveal it.
You're like, oh, look, I made it like transport or something.
It's just, it's really bothersome to keep doing that.
Like the status of Israel is clearly in the Bible.
And by this, I don't mean the like tribes of Israel or like the neo-Israel that is the church and whatever.
I'm referring to the land, Canaan, basically.
Israel, do they have a stake there?
Is that in the Bible?
Is that part of Yahweh's promise?
The answer is clearly yes.
So stop talking about Netanyahu.
He is irrelevant. to this question.
And you keep mentioning it so that you can like have your cake and eat it too.
It's like, oh, of course we believe the Bible, but, you know, Netanyahu, does he, is he, he's secular?
Is he like, what are you talking about?
Oh, yeah.
Do you have any?
Those who bless Israel will be blessed.
It's exactly what people do.
God's.
Yeah, I mean, he had no idea where in the Bible it was.
Of course, that's not, that line is not actually in the Bible.
It doesn't say that.
But whatever, the leap between that, whatever that means, does mean something.
And the moral, the religious requirement to support the government of Israel.
I mean, those are just like completely two different things.
No, they don't think they are.
Did Paula White or Dan Patrick explain where you were wrong on doctrine?
No.
No, they just said, I cannot hold firm to replacement theology, which they don't know.
Catholics, it's fulfillment theology.
We believe that we are the fulfillment.
You know, it's not replace.
They like to dig us and say, oh, you believe in replacement theology.
No, no, no.
We're the fulfillment.
Christ is the fulfillment of Israel.
Well, that's what's happening.
So we are the new people.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I mean, it says it like on every page.
So, but they're accusing you of believing in something called replacement theology.
For people who don't follow this, and I'm kind of one of them.
I don't fully understand what that means.
What do they mean by that?
They believe.
Tucker like literally does not understand anything.
This is his entire like M.O.
It's like, I don't understand.
What is this?
What do you think?
What is it?
So replacement theology, their claim is that the church has replaced Israel.
So for 2,000 years, that's what all of the early church fathers have taught, that we are the new Israel.
We're the spiritual Semites.
They would literally be rolling in their graves if they thought that we were being told that 1948 Israel is some biblical prophecy fulfillment.
I mean, that alone is insane, that they think that this political state of Israel that was created in 48, mostly by atheists, is some biblical prophecy being fulfilled.
Okay, it just literally is.
I mean, it's like, what do you want?
Why does she say the word political?
Like, like, that was a problem or the fact that Herzol was an atheist or something.
Well, God works in mysterious ways, my child.
And he might very well use an atheist to advance his agenda.
Now, again, is she arguing that like the 48 one wasn't it?
Like, but our real one is, I mean, what is she arguing exactly?
Because just a plain reading of the Bible, you, you at least have to be like, well, I think they're, they're kind of like having the promise fulfilled, right?
I mean, what else is happening?
Well, it's, it's a whole game of reinterpretation.
And they're, they're trying to prepare the youth and the Christian audience into having a certain interpretation of the Bible.
Now, the problem is there, it's always political.
She's trying to distinguish between political and the Israel of the Bible, which would have been some per non-political entity, does she think?
It's like, no matter at which point you had some organization of Jews anywhere.
Yes, there was a king and there were local authorities.
So it's always political.
And it's a kind of a delusion.
And I think they're counting on the fact that a young public or whatever public is watching them will not dig to ask these questions and would simply say, oh, my experience of the Bible, as I hear it from my pastor or from my priest, it's a non-political message.
It's a message of love.
So they're counting on this kind of psycho-emotional interpretation of biblical stuff rather than actual literacy political.
documentation, which the Bible pretty much is.
Yeah.
But there's also this thing.
And I struggle to find a good word to describe it.
I mean, I almost want to say it's schizophrenic.
Maybe passive aggressive is the right term that could be used because, you know, what she said that Catholics are the spiritual Semites.
So they're like the true Jews, basically.
And this is getting at this weird contradiction at the heart of Christian anti-Semitism that I think really needs to be laid out because you see it everywhere.
Even in the gospels, the stories about Jesus, who are the enemies there?
Is it the Romans?
Not exactly, actually, because Pontius Pilate is sort of treated sympathetically.
He's kind of ignorant and ambivalent about this.
Like, are you sure you guys want to release Barabbas and not Jesus, who seems like such a good guy?
You know, like, why?
I'm just as an old Tucker Carlson.
I'm not sure.
I don't know.
These guys are asking me to kill Jesus Christ.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Maybe they're right.
He's like, he's the king of the Jews.
And the Pharisees are like, he said he was the king of the Jews.
It's like, okay, whatever.
I mean, he's dead.
That's what he is.
He's dead.
He's dead.
But so even in those stories, it's like the shroud, you know, is ripped.
And so the whole the tent of meeting in the tabernacle, where Yahweh as a real being, a God that you couldn't even look upon because you would be just burned to a crisp.
I mean, only Moses could do it.
There's a real being in there.
And in a way, like the shroud is ripped and there's an earthquake.
And so in a way, like God is out in the world.
You know, he's no longer contained in the tent of meeting or the tabernacle, the temple, all of that kind of stuff.
It's like he's just universal.
I mean, it's a really bold move.
And again, and I guess I was mentioning this before, you know, Jesus, he's raging against the Pharisees and they're raging back.
And he's like, yo, you're a den of vipers, you know, you're a father, Satan, all this kind of stuff.
But the Pharisees were themselves Messianic Jews.
So like they, it's just this weird contrast.
It really is like the Bolsheviks versus the Mensheviks or something, or, you know, like the second wave feminist versus the fifth wave feminists.
It's like an intramural dispute that becomes really intense.
And so they're blaming the Jews for not accepting the Jews' Messiah that's prophesied in their holy books.
It's a very, I don't know what to say, like deeply ambivalent, contradictory, passive aggressive type move that they're making.
And I think it might raise the intensity of their anti-Semitism because it's so much worse.
Casual and Critical Hatred00:02:08
Like when I was growing up in Dallas, there actually was anti-Semitism just among normal people, but it was never like this.
It was casual anti-Semitism.
You know, I think I, you know, the old joke, like, how do you lose a Jewish cop?
Yeah.
You all, okay.
You lose a Jewish cop by taking the toll road.
This is a very Dallas joke because the toll road pay like 75 cents to like go faster.
So I'm saying this just to sort of like, I have nostalgia for this casual anti-Semitism that I was thinking about.
It was so easy to be anti-Semitic background.
It's basically like Jews are weird.
They suck at sports.
Like, you know, they're penny pinchers.
It's all this casual stuff that isn't really, I mean, you can make jokes about me, Irish, Russians, Germans, whatever.
It's all just sort of humorous.
It's not serious.
But this anti-Semitism, they're not calling the Jews cheap or something.
They are basically saying you rejected your own Messiah, which I believe in.
I am you.
I mean, I'm not sure.
It's like the most profoundly weird and kind of intense psychological thing to say.
I'm going to kill you because I am you.
I mean, we're getting into the realm of like depth psychology.
Wow.
But, but this seems to be what is animating these people.
This seems to be the anti-Semitism that is arising right now.
And I, and I, I, I think we should definitely like examine the reality of it.
And, uh, and, and maybe even, I mean, I can't believe I'm in a way, other people can't believe I'm saying this.
I can believe I'm saying this.
I'm critical of it.
I, I don't, I don't know what to say.
Like, it's like, you're now all anti-Semitism.
You're all now anti-Semites, but like, not like this.
I mean, what are you doing?
This is like worse.
You know, like, I don't know.
Mike Huckabee kind of seems rational in comparison to you people.