America's Mayor Live (822): MANHUNT CONTINUES as Search for Brown University Shooter Enters 4th Day
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America's mayor live.
Live.
No, not from Sydney, Australia.
Live from Palm Beach, Florida.
But we have our Sydney background again tonight because we spent a lot of time on the prior show talking about Sydney.
We are going to talk about it on this show, but we're also going to have with us live a very, very excellent reporter from Rhode Island who has a radio talk show every day in Rhode Island and covers it very carefully and has probably more information than anyone on the Brown case,
which is a bit of a who done it and head scratcher.
And of course, tremendous, tremendous tragedy.
And we don't know if we can, I think this way.
And we don't know, and we don't know if we can put it in the category of the horrible, horrible carnage in Sydney or the killing in Syria by Islamic extremists.
We don't know that.
And the question is, what was the motive?
It is unknown at this point.
There is a rather authoritative leak that the police have concluded that the target was Elle Cook, the young lady from, I think, Alabama, who was the head of the Republican Club and a very religious Catholic girl, who was the first of the two that was killed.
But even that has not been acknowledged.
And there, of course, was an original statement that before the shooter shot, he said something.
Now, there's no doubt that he did.
There are a lot of people, but there is confusion as to what he said.
Some of the early reports were Alu Akbar.
They have not been confirmed.
The professor who at least gave his version says he couldn't tell what he said.
But let's put that aside for a moment.
There's no question that what we're seeing is another manifestation of the Islamic war against Western civilization.
Now, when we say that, we always would say Islamic extremist war against Western civilization.
Even that, of course, people dispute, but they can't.
Not a few are there on September 11.
You can't.
And don't try to do it with me or you're not going to get very far.
But I think we make a mistake now in saying just Islamic extremist, because the Muslim has had enough, the Muslims had enough time to wipe this out.
And they have it.
I mean, it's been a long time now that people have been killing in the name of the name of the Prophet and in the name of their God.
How many people have to be killed in the name of Muhammad so that Muslims have to take responsibility for changing this?
I think more than enough.
And I haven't seen any Muslim leader stand up and condemn what happened in Australia, huh?
And I see an awful lot of Muslims stand up and give all kinds of excuses for October 7.
And the savage attack on innocent Jewish people who had nothing to do with...
with anything being done to the Palestinians.
I mean the Palestinians.
Real anger should be at their crooked leadership, their terrorist and crooked leadership uh they, they don't have a single close to legitimate person in their leadership.
If they're Hamas, they're terrorists, and if they're Fatah, they are retired terrorists who found it better to steal money than to kill them.
And the reason for their uh, tremendous poverty?
Israel hasn't stolen money from them.
Their leaders have.
Israel has plenty of money of its own, and this idea that we give Israel all kinds of money is another ridiculous thing.
We give them between three and four billion dollars a year, and it's for very specific, it's a very specific 10-year formula.
Israel is one of the stronger economies in the world.
There's a reason they're not like Israel and it has nothing to do with Israel.
It has to do with them.
In fact, most often, failures have to do with you, not someone else, and when you hear people playing the victim game.
Uh too much.
Uh generally, it's an excuse for their own crimes inadequacies difficulties, problems they create for themselves.
So um, the two kill the, the two uh killers in in um in Australia fall into another category.
That is extraordinarily disturbing.
It seems like every one of these Islamic extremist murderers who never are condemned by the Muslim community, the one that we're supposed to always say, well, a majority of Muslims are very good people and they don't want to kill and they don't want to harm anybody and they want to be just like us.
Gee I, I have you seen one on television in the last three days condemn one of those people who's just like us in the Muslim community.
I mean, I invite you to come on my show and condemn and condemn what uh, what Navid Akram uh and and and his father, Sajid Uh, did in murdering these innocent people in Australia.
Uh if if, you would like to come on and do that, I would, i'd be, i'd be overjoyed.
i mean i've even believed through september 11 that there was a majority of the muslim community that stood against uh the radicals When they tell you people celebrated in New Jersey and in Brooklyn.
It is true, they did.
Did we suppress that somewhat?
I didn't, but I think we did.
Do we suppress a lot of this in the name of, I don't know what, feeling good about ourselves, or?
But do we deprive you then of really knowing what you're facing?
Uh, the way people did with Hitler, I I, there's no doubt we do.
So let's measure this by how many Muslims we see on national and international TV and media joining with us telling this has to stop.
The killing of Jews and of Christians has to stop.
Jews and Christians don't exist to be slaughtered by Muslims.
I want to hear a Muslim say that.
One of those majority of Muslims who are good people, honest people, lovely people.
It doesn't do any good any longer to just keep it inside and protect yourself because you're killing us in numbers that are unacceptable.
What you did and what you did or what was done in your name in Australia is a travesty.
Condemn it.
Condemn October 7 and tell those rat shit kids who go out in the street protesting they're a bunch of jackasses and morons.
It's because not enough Muslims stand up and say that.
I don't know how many times I've had to say, well, the Muslim community is mostly, but where are you mostly?
What is it going to take to give you the guts to stand up?
Does the rest of the religion teach enough decency so you're against it?
And then is it a religion?
Can a religion be created by a pedophile murderer?
He was.
I don't know.
Put out another fatwa on me if you want.
But he was.
He dug graves for Jews.
Who does that sound like?
And the chief Mufti in Palestine, the wonderful Palestinians, was an ally of Hitler.
Good friend, too.
Yeah, I know, I know.
We got that jackass who says that Hitler's a good guy, but you know, we did a pretty good job on him in the podcast, didn't we, Ted?
Hope we wiped him out.
Just go listen to the podcast and see what you think of Tucker Carlson's best friend.
You want some good news?
Yeah, I mean, oh my goodness, we've been so close.
Okay.
The tragic news is like.
Is that one of the countries that leads in birth rate?
Not America.
Not America, that's for sure.
Israel?
You got it.
And it's not just the Orthodox.
It's all, the entire country.
And a very, very good article.
Please read it today.
It might turn your mind on abortion and all this other stuff.
And also why abortion started with planned parented, that obnoxious, horrible homicidal organization that wants to end up creating a pure species, somewhat Nazi-ish.
William McGurn tells us the story today of a writer named Julian Simon, who died in 1998, but he had an influence on McGurn when McGurn was a young reporter and he wrote a book called The Ultimate Resource.
And in the book, he pointed out that too many humans is not a problem, that too many humans are not going to deprive the world of food.
They're going to create more food.
Because he pointed out that human beings have minds also, and that the more minds, the more creative the solutions to life's problems.
And all great societies had positive growth rates.
Today, China's population is Israel stands out for its birth rate.
In fact, in the 38 democracies, it has the highest birth rate.
The average birth rate for the 38 most established democracies is 1.5.
2.17 is the rate at which you replenish yourself.
and the birth rate in Israel is 3.0.
And secular Jewish women have a birth rate much higher than their non-Jewish counterparts.
Of course, religious people have the highest birth rate because God commanded us to multiply.
One might remember that from the book of Genesis.
So let's talk a little about Ukraine.
Ukraine is Ukraine is hard to tell.
Let's just put it that way.
The Europeans seem to be getting ready for a cave-in.
The Europeans seem to be thinking and saying that Trump is not going to bring Ukraine out of this in a way that, or let's put it this way, they're going to come out of it in a way that makes Russia even more anxious to spread into Ukraine again by giving them open doors.
And also, it's going to show the weakness of the U.S. support for Europe.
And European security officials have actually put out reports saying, get ready for a conflict with Russia.
Frederick Mertz, who's the chancellor of Germany, equates Putin's strategy to that of Hitler in 1938 when he seized the Sudetenland region of Czechoslovakia, saying, oh, they're really Germans.
We should be able to take them.
And Mertz has said if Ukraine fails, he's not going to stop there.
Mark Root, who is a good friend of President Trump, says we must be prepared for the scale of war our grandparents or great-grandparents endured.
the worry is that the U.S. will push Kiev to accept a lopsided deal and they don't have any other choice.
Now, the UK's threat of assessment is that Russia will continue to try to destabilize Europe until somehow, some way Putin is forced to change his calculus.
So far, Putin hasn't been challenged.
Now, here's the problem.
Only a third of Europeans are willing to fight to defend their country.
And the last time a poll was done, only 41% of Americans.
I refuse to accept that.
But I guess I better, just in case, huh?
And this report points out that the telltale sign is that Russia is producing a lot more than it needs to defeat Ukraine.
And what they're saying is that people have to be educated the way they were or educated again like they were in the 30s after the appeasement strategies of Chamberlain and others didn't have them ready for war against Hitler.
So we are now supposedly have an agreement worked out where the U.S. will satisfy Ukraine on the security guarantees.
Now, what that would mean is a Article V provision, which according to the leaks and would be confirmed by the Senate, because quite rightly, Zelensky will not accept it just from the president and the administration, because he has one of those already.
Going back to 1994 or so, or three.
We agreed that we would defend Ukraine, the United States did, if they were to be attacked by Russia.
Were they attacked by Russia?
Did we defend them?
So he wants it approved by the Senate.
It wouldn't mean that they went into NATO.
It wouldn't mean they didn't go into NATO.
But it would mean that they had the same guarantee that all the NATO members have.
And it is this, that if you are attacked, then all the NATO members come to your defense.
And most particularly, the one that really matters, the United States of America.
And apparently Trump, to get the peace, is willing to push that.
And he's also willing to get it confirmed by the Senate.
We'll see.
I mean, we've gone up a lot of blind alleys here.
If this were part of the agreement, some of the other concessions required of Ukraine would be less onerous because the main thing is to have the backing of NATO.
Russia is going to have to go a long way and destroy its economy in order to be able to match NATO with the United States supporting NATO.
Now, they may not agree to this.
There are experts, including Martin Guri, who say that Putin's not going to give up on this war no matter this war ends when Putin dies.
And then a lot of Russian experts feel that we could get a very rational solution because they're not sure that this war is supported that strongly by the rest of the regime in Russia, that this is a Putin.
And you say wanting to recreate the Soviet, the Soviet Union, and never has been.
It's wanting to recreate the Russian Empire.
I tell you this, he doesn't want to be Khrushchev or Brezhnev.
He wants to be Peter the Great.
The countries he's focusing on are countries that were arguably part of Russia under the Russian Empire, not arguably part of Russia under the Soviet.
He's not looking for the Czech Republic back, and I doubt that he's looking for Poland back.
That would be a hell of a war.
But he is looking for Lithuania back and Latvia and Estonia and Belarus and Ukraine, who were often, at times not, at times as part of the Russian empire, and who in large measure used to speak a lot of Russian.
They've gotten away from it, but they used to.
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Well, let me wish everyone that's listening to America's Mayor Live happy third night of Hanukkah.
I do think Hanukkah has always been a very, very important celebration from the time that Judas Maccabee said that Jews should celebrate it every year.
But let's say what happened over the weekend makes it even more important, doesn't it?
And here's why it becomes more important.
This is a holiday of joy and celebration.
A lot of people say it was created.
A lot of people that have certain element of anti-Semitism or want to make everything negative for the Jewish people say, oh, it was invented.
The holiday was invented to substitute for Christmas.
Well, it wasn't invented.
First of all, it came about before Christmas.
The holiday was about 250 years, if I calculated correctly, before Christ.
I may be wrong about that.
I'm even further back.
But in any event, the holiday comes right out of a book in the Catholic Bible.
Please, I don't want to get too esoteric with you.
This is not in the Protestant Bible.
It's in the Catholic Bible.
The book of Maccabees is not included in the King James Version of the Bible.
It is in the Dewey Rheims version of the Bible and in all of the, and the Septuagint and the early Greek versions of the Bible.
I do not know why Luther took these books out.
But the book of Maccabees has two books, Maccabees one and two, and it tells about the wars fought by the Maccabees against first the Greek Selicids and then against Rome for in the case of the Greeks in order to liberate their temple.
And when they did liberate the temple, the Maccabees did, they had to purify it because the Greeks were not Greek Orthodox like they are now.
They were Greek pagans and they celebrated all kinds of weird, crazy gods and they defiled the temple.
Of course, it was the one, as far as I can tell, the Jewish religion until Christianity came along was the one monotheistic religion in the world, meaning one God, which is why the first commandment is so important.
And so when they got the temple back, they had to purify it.
And they were going to purify it by lighting oil candles, candles with special holy oil.
But there was only a little bit of this holy oil left in the temple.
And their ceremony to purify it had to be eight nights.
So they went and they lit all the oil they had and prayed to God to provide the rest of the oil.
And God did.
And for eight days, there was enough oil to purify the temple.
And when the eight days were over, Judas Maccabee said this day should be celebrated at this time for as long as the Jewish people exist.
So this is an important day, not the holiest day of the Jewish calendar that's reserved for Yom Kippur, the Jewish New Year.
But it's one of the important ones and celebrated thoroughly throughout the Jewish history at that level.
There was a period of time because it is eight days of reading scripture and reading blessings and having enjoyable foods and also playing games with the children.
The dreidel is the little thing that they use a lot.
That at some point over 100 years ago, the Jewish people thought, oh, it would be nice if we added to this.
And this is where this comes about.
We added to this because there isn't a great deal of, there isn't a great deal of sacredness around this.
This is supposed to be just a kind of, it doesn't have a formula like the Passover, which is a very strict formula to follow when you do the Passover.
It's much looser, just to be fun.
So they added the giving of gifts for eight days so that the Jewish children who saw all the Christian children getting gifts would also get gifts.
That's where the anti-Semites that are all over the place, unfortunately, started.
Oh, they're just, they invented the holiday.
You know, probably when you're prejudiced, at core, you're ignorant.
So then you make things up to fill in the prejudice, right?
Right.
So you want to say they added the gift thing 100, 150 years ago, fine.
But you want to say they added the holiday, idiot.
Well, you read history or read your own Bible if you read the Bible.
And if you're a Catholic, read your version of the Bible because it's specially contained in there.
By the way, there was a beautiful message today of happy Hanukkah from Cardinal Dolan.
I wish I can find it because it almost, well, I think it did.
I'm going to play this first, but we'll find that.
It did.
It did.
Oh, the guys came over to see me.
This is today.
I made a very big mistake and I asked him to stay for the ceremony.
Right.
Well, we'll text them.
I got there.
I'm going to come back tomorrow.
Right.
Hopefully they're still here.
They're part of the Chabad here in Palm Beach.
Now, you know that in Australia, it was the Chabad that was attacked.
And the Hamad was having a first night of Hanukkah celebration at Bondi Beach, which is one of the most beautiful places in Sydney, Australia.
And I know many people probably have not been to Australia because it is such a long trip.
I happen to have been fortunate enough to go about four or five times.
And particularly to Sydney, where I've also been to the opera three or four times.
The opera house there is fabulous.
So they celebrate it.
As I said, it's a little more of a loose holiday in the sense that because it was a holiday for joy, and that's the way Judas Maccabee started it, you get to have fun.
So they do it at Bondi Beach.
They light the first Hanukkah candle at Bondi Beach.
And they've been doing this.
I'll find out how many years, but for a very long time.
And two people, father and a son, one of whom was on the list but never followed.
Two Islamic believers in Muhammad and believers in the strict Muhammad, which is, you know, try to kill the Jews unless they convert, got themselves what they thought was a place in paradise by killing some Jews.
Right.
Well, Mayor, not to shift topics, but we want to be respectful of our guests here.
Yes, of course.
So we have with us now joining the show, John DiPetro.
He's the host and creator of Road Patrol Live.
He's been maybe the top source, go-to source on the ongoing manhunt following the shooting at Brown University.
John DiPetro is with us now live.
John, it's a great, great pleasure to have you with us.
Oh, my God.
What an honor to speak to.
I met Mayor Giuliani.
I want everyone to know just a quick story.
It was, I was living at 73rd in Columbus.
I moved there in 1990.
Mayor Dinkins was the mayor.
It was a disaster.
It was a war zone.
It was Crown Heights.
1990, 1993.
What was the occasion, John?
I had moved in to work for ABC.
And so, yep.
And then I met you, fellow Whitlow, at the Columbus Avenue Fair.
And you signed.
I think there was, they had some pictures of you, like an illustration or something.
And so I voted for you.
And I remember you said, I'm going to turn this city around.
And it started with Times Square.
And then Disney came in.
And I watched.
I mean, that is still the greatest crime achievement of someone.
And you and Bill Bratton and John Miller and the late nights of the lanes at 92nd Street.
And everyone should know.
And the country should forever be indebted to you.
And you're still the gold standard of how a mayor handles things in a crisis.
Am I too dark?
By the way, I couldn't put out a light.
You couldn't be so kind.
Is that your family in back of you?
It is actually.
Yeah, that's an illustration of them.
I could put out a light if I'm dark.
He's like us.
He's thinking about the lighting at all times.
I got my Christmas tree.
Hold on.
Bear with me one second.
Let me just put on a good light.
He wants to put on a light.
Yeah.
So he's going to.
Heard you on television.
We were very impressed.
He wants to add a light for a shot.
He's like us.
We're always thinking of those things.
So we'll give him a second here.
He's going to.
He does the radio too, like we did.
Do you miss that, Ted?
Of course.
Of course I miss it.
You do radio every day, right, John?
I do.
Yeah.
But I've really for about five years until WABC kind of fired me.
Yeah, well, that wanted to talk about the 2020 election.
I told him to go, you know.
But in any event, I really missed that.
I don't think people know a city better than the talk show people because you get everything.
So tell us about this Brown thing.
It confuses us.
First thing that confuses us, just as a mayor, the response time was 25 minutes.
I didn't like that.
Yes.
I mean, if that were my police department, they'd be in a lot of trouble.
Should have been about five or 10 minutes, but I don't think it had made a difference because this guy, I think he knew who he wanted to shoot and he shot her right away.
Maybe he was after the other guy.
I don't know.
But it seems like he was after Elle, right?
I mean, there's speculation of that, Mayor, but I believe, I mean, I think you've certainly visited Brown.
It's kind of like, in a way, Columbia with its city campus.
A lot of people think it's not a traditional college campus the way people would think it is.
It's not like you're going across a quad.
Brown University, much like Harvard with Cambridge, a lot of the professors live around there.
The east side of Providence is a very desirable place to live.
Where this thing really just exploded off the wrong track is Providence.
And by the way, I want to defend the Providence Police.
I work very closely with Providence.
I love the police.
I've got to respond.
The response time is bothering me.
That's in dispute.
Brown has their own police force.
They were clearly, clearly caught off guard.
Not security.
They carry guns.
They're Brown police.
So granted, they handle a lot of robberies and breaking entering and so forth.
But there was some kind of confusion where some of the calls were actually going to the Providence Fire Department.
So when the Providence police got there, number one, Brown University should have set off there.
They have an alarm system goes off.
They have, you know, I've been up there when there's going to be a tornado warning and you hear it, you know, it echoes across the entire campus onto the city.
They didn't activate that.
And if you go on the Brown University website, one of the reasons they have this is for in case there's an active shooter.
If they had activated that, as you're seeing the video of the shooter, or they believe the person to be the shooter leaving, you would have heard that.
And then it really would have created urgency.
So they go up.
You know, I also want to mention, so I cover crime.
In this part of the country, as you know, there's not a lot of Republicans to cover.
And I can't stand dealing with the Democrats.
So what do I do?
I ride with the police.
I go on, I deal with ICE.
I do with, you know, a fugitive task force, you know, and so I put all that video out.
And so I'm with the police all the time.
Can I just say, can I just say, you have a lot of fun.
I do.
It is fun.
And I shouldn't go with that, but I love riding with the police.
Yeah.
And they're solid.
And you know what?
The funniest thing is the best thing that people, people ask me all the time how it is.
The most fun is when you're going 70 miles an hour with the lights blaring and you're whipping.
We shouldn't tell people that, but that's true.
It's like being on a ride.
But, you know, and there's things that come along with that.
I've done missing person cases.
I was attacked with a running lawnmower.
I had a protester.
Black Lives Matter took out my right eye with a green laser.
I got stabbed by shooting Tifa.
No.
So you have to wear the bulletproof.
But anyhow, so as a result of that, I get up there.
And the first thing the police had to do was they had to evacuate all the students that were in the sheltered place.
So they had trouble getting into the dorms and the buildings where all the students were.
So the police who were so aggressive.
Now, when I was, I was there at quarter of five.
This happened at four o'clock.
They still think maybe he's in one of these buildings.
Maybe there's going to be more victims.
They don't know what they're encountering.
You know, but was he in fact, John?
Was he in fact in and out very quickly?
He was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This was a problem.
I mean, I mean, the theory is that he was after her and maybe him.
I don't know.
And then a few shots and he ran out.
But he, so what we learned today was he arrived in that area at 10:30 in the morning.
And you see him at two o'clock, Mayor, where he is pacing back and forth.
Is that the guy we see walking?
Yes.
The first couple of videos were very dull.
They've enhanced them quite well.
They have.
They have.
Now, now you've got videos there.
You could do a pretty good identification of them.
And that's what they're holding.
You've got artists that could probably recreate his face, even though he has a mask on.
Yeah.
And because they need that.
But you know what's unusual?
And a profiler, a police officer said to me, where they think it could be a student or someone that would know people is if you didn't know anyone, maybe you would be closer to the building.
Why is he staying a block away so then no one comes out and says, hey, there's Rudy Giuliani standing right there with a mask on?
With a mask on.
And so he's standing a block away and he's pacing, or is he trying to work himself up to it?
But why shows up at 1030 on a Saturday?
not during the week.
There's other busier places if you want to do, you know, a full spray and shooting.
You know what, Else, Mayor?
And I think you can appreciate this.
I don't think people, I've interviewed a lot of criminals.
I've interviewed around here wise guys that you, you know, actually, I can remember you on Federal Hill.
Basey Anti used to talk about you.
And, but you know what?
I've interviewed guys.
I've been to Providence quite a bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One of my great memories is in 1986, I gave the commencement address at Providence College.
Wow.
It was my first commencement address.
And I will admit I was a nervous wreck.
And the Dominican fathers calmed me down.
It was very nervous.
And Rick Petino was the coach at the time.
So we went to it.
Rick and I have since become friends.
And I love Providence.
Of course, you know, Rhode Island at one time had the largest Italian-American population in the country.
Yep.
And certain pockets of it still do.
But I interviewed a wise guy that told me he never did a job where he was not like five drinks in.
I don't think people understand.
Yeah, right.
But I don't think people understand the nerve.
I don't want to call it courage, but what does it take for someone to enter a building and you have a weapon?
And a police officer was saying to me that he's not sure what to make of this, but saying, let's just say he was targeted because there's a lot of talk about that Ella, the woman, you know, the girl from Alabama, who's seen as like a Ivy League rising female Charlie Kirk.
So why not get her on the street?
If you go in, he doesn't know if there's security in there.
He doesn't know if they lock him in the auditorium.
You know, Else Mayor, a couple of things.
And I'm going to share with you something that no one has heard yet.
Two things.
One thing is that study, that was not like an exam.
This was the pre-study before the exam.
So it wasn't posted anywhere.
So the only way people knew about that was a lot of the classes are posted online.
This was not.
So someone had to know about that.
Here's what no one has learned.
I've talked to the first responders.
I've ridden with the first responders.
As she is lying there, her cell phone keeps going off.
And when they, she's lying there deceased, as they go over, they can see her cell phone pulsating and it's it's saying dad.
So that was her father calling her from Alabama.
And they were so heartbreaking broken, the first responders, and it kept going off and then kept going off and then was silent.
And then someone said, but you know, we gotta, it was, it was brutal.
They said you could hear, it was, it was like a funeral home.
It was like a funeral of so quiet.
And then all of a sudden you hear her cell phone coming on and also the young man, some of his friends.
Now, granted, some of their other friends are calling, but the caller ID that they see is dad is popping up on her phone.
Daddy calling her from Alabama.
Yes, and not getting an answer.
So very chaotic Saturday night.
There is the question that came up right at the beginning, and it's a very delicate one.
I saw that the professor who has given a statement about it, who actually the teaching assistant said that before the guy is shot, he said something.
Yes.
But the teaching assistant couldn't make it out.
Correct.
And that's where the discrepancy is.
And then the early reports were he said aloe akbar.
I've heard that.
But the problem is.
Is that well?
Tell me the status of that.
I mean, here's the problem.
You have some people that claim they heard that, and then you have other people that claim that's not what they heard.
So the police seem hesitant.
They don't want to put out any misinformation.
I'm okay with that.
If it really is in doubt, I go back to the Obama administration when they used to hide it.
Yes.
Like a bunch of Marines were shot and the guy is aloe Akbar.
Aloha.
I'm killing you in the name of Allah.
And it's not a terrorist killing.
Come on, Obama.
Right, right.
But if it really is in doubt, then we shouldn't.
I mean, the last thing in the world we need is to increase the anger.
But if it really is Alo Akbar, then we need to know it.
Exactly.
And I think that's frustrating.
I know it is a lot of people.
Mayor, I don't think it's been highlighted enough that I left there Saturday night around 1.30.
So I got there a little after 4.30 and then left at 1.30.
When I left, they were still removing students from campus and buses.
Sure.
So there was- So you got there.
Do it again.
You got there at 4.30 in the afternoon.
The shooting was at 4.
I got notified right away by my crew and I was 10, 15 minutes away.
So I was on the ground.
Now, you weren't working on Saturday, John, were you?
You know, when you do crime, I'm working.
I'm like the police.
I'm working.
Yeah.
So you got to be ready to roll when it happens.
God bless you.
God bless you.
First one on the ground.
And I could tell it was a chaotic.
But the reason I say that is when people are saying, like, why didn't they start the investigation right away?
They had to make sure they were not convinced that this shooter was in one of the dorms or he had gone into one of the buildings.
Or, you know, first thing they had to do was clear all the buildings.
Now, you would know that's that's not easy.
And that takes a while.
So, you know, fast forward, when they were then ready, okay, now we're going to really begin the investigation.
Then it started snowing when I was leaving at 1.30.
And then when I get, I come back, I got back there around six o'clock.
And at the seven o'clock briefing, the FBI, they announced that they had a person of interest that they were detaining.
So there was an exit.
Have you any idea who that was?
Was that one of the guy?
Was that the guy walking up and down?
No, it was not.
It's the first individual they ended up releasing.
I believe he was a service member.
Maybe we don't want to name him.
Yeah.
Let's not name him.
But at the same time, I know the police had good intention.
The police, he was staying in a community kind of far from Providence.
And, you know, when I got to the hotel after, you know, they had a seven o'clock press conference and a 12 o'clock press conference on Sunday.
So then I get to the hotel and I can see them outside the window of the hotel, FBI, ATF, marshals, and local police.
And so I go inside and I talk with my people and they say, well, the guy is swearing he never left his room.
And then when we checked the surveillance of the hotel, he doesn't leave his room.
So they're thinking, could he have slept, stuck out the window?
He didn't stink out the window.
But here's why it's significant.
On Sunday, Mayor, when I'm at the press briefing, the president of Brown says everybody can go home for the winter break.
And I actually, I raised my hand and say, couldn't some of those people be witnesses?
Couldn't, I mean, are we positive as this person of interest that's being detained?
Couldn't it?
You could be sending the shooter home.
Maybe it is a student.
Like, we don't know.
So they should not have sent all those people home.
Because then since then, yeah, yeah.
So since then, they have said, if you're a student and you were in that building on Friday or Saturday, please contact the police for an interview.
Well, you know, I've been hearing from parents where, yeah, their child was let, you know, left and flew to Los Angeles or flew to, you know, Paris.
South Florida.
We had stories.
We're still looking for them.
Though there are local stories down here in South Florida of students returning home, you know, traumatized.
So they should have you're absolutely right.
I really jumped the gun, Mayor.
It jumped the gun.
And then I just, because then I said, when are we doing the briefing again?
And they planned on after the Patriots game.
That was a big Patriot game against Buffalo.
So then I was saying, you know, do I have time to get something to eat and watch the first half of the game?
And then they said, probably be four o'clock.
Then it was six o'clock.
And then it's seven o'clock.
We know we've got a bunch of people.
And there's nobody who's a football fan, right?
No briefing.
And then it's because the story fell apart.
This guy at the hotel did have gun weapons, but when they tested him, there was no, he was, you know, it is an example.
He was truthful with police and that he enabled the police to clear him.
So then they sent him on his way.
But here's the problem: the investigation, they lost all of Sunday.
So the investigation really started yesterday morning.
And I was up there.
And then suddenly, I mean, there's so many FBI agents.
And at one point, I work with them forever.
I'm going to give them some advice.
There's a 70% chance.
I work on statistics.
I did way back in the 80s.
There's a 70 to 80% chance he's still in the area.
Wow.
You would think he'd get the hell out of there.
Yes.
Right?
Yeah.
That's what a good mafia hitman does.
Yes.
He goes to Aubrey, you know, boom, gone.
You know, I was.
These guys stick around.
So they have a chance.
They still have a chance to catch him.
I hope so.
And I'll tell my friend Kash Patel, you got enough on that video.
Yeah.
Way back when I used to do this, which is, you know, in ancient times.
You got enough to get that face.
I know he's got a mask on, but there are sketch artists that are capable.
If you can get a good enough shot of recreating that face, probably about 70, 80% of accuracy.
And I've caught people that way.
So there's a chance you can get the guy.
You can get the face.
Yeah.
So don't.
I mean, I know that I do see they're scouring the area, which I like.
Oh, unbelievable.
Yeah.
You know, man, they were, so they had 450 police officers there on Saturday.
And then with FBI, it's the same thing.
And for those that are watching, if you go on, you see I'm right there walking behind the FBI filming the whole thing.
You know, just I'm trying to show them as much support.
Providence police thrown into this.
By the way, you should know, Mayor. on Saturday, on Saturday, Sunday, excuse me, on Sunday during the day, the mayor of Providence, they were saying basically that he had handled this crisis in like Giuliani fashion.
Good.
That you set the gold standard, you know, of 9-11 of how to handle it.
Now, granted, it was false because they all thought like, wow, less than 12 hours and they got the guy.
Yeah, that's okay.
That's okay.
Okay.
Okay.
That's okay.
I mean, look, I've arrested the wrong people plenty of times before I got to the right one.
This is a dynamic.
The main thing is to keep pressing, not give up.
Keep present.
Yes.
Because one of the things that is true, the more time that goes by, the less of a chance of solving it.
So you got to get on it right away.
But they got a lot of things going for them.
That video, that video is dynamite.
I mean, you should be able to use that video and turn it around.
And we should try and figure out for the good of the world what the hell he said.
Yes.
I guess we'll find if we can catch him, we'll find out, right?
Yeah.
If the guy has nothing to do with Islam, well, then that was a mistake.
But if he's a dedicated Islamic extremist, then we got a different situation, right?
Yeah.
And they have had some of that.
You know, there's an international studies there.
So I covered after October 7th, they had pro-Hamas rallies in and around Brown.
You know, obviously, Harvard MIT had them.
And so there is a contingent of that.
It wasn't as violent as Columbia was.
I didn't hear about it as much.
Yeah.
It wasn't like Harvard or Columbia.
No, no.
Or UPenn where they were out of control.
Something I want to put on your radar, though, and this is something to look at.
Now, I think you agree, whoever this was, they certainly seem cautious.
The mask, you know, he's not totally running when he leaves.
He's just walking at kind of a knew what he was doing.
He didn't.
Or semi-pro.
Semi-pro.
But you like to me, as a police officer said to me, you're going to be feel pretty confident you know how to handle a weapon that you're going to go in and actually use it because otherwise who's to say it doesn't jam and then the crowd turns on you but i don't know this isn't getting enough play yet so this happened saturday afternoon at four o'clock hanukkah starts monday he arrived the first time we see him is friday Saturday morning at 10:30.
So he's there all day and he's walking around.
But last night, a Jewish professor from MIT in Brookline, Mass, someone right near Fenway Park, someone knocks at his door and he opens the door and he's executed right there.
Yeah.
And that is just taking off.
So, yeah.
That's two nights later.
So as a police officer said to me, is that the same guy?
And then another officer said, an FBI agent said to me, said, I don't, he said, I don't think people appreciate what it takes to knock on a door and then someone opens and you open fire and kill them right in their foyer in their front room.
Now, when did that take place?
Last night.
Last night?
Last night?
Yes, in Brookline, Mass.
He's knocking on the door of a rabbi.
He's an MIT professor.
An MIT professional.
MIT professor Jewish.
Yep.
And they have the menorah in the window and the whole thing.
Oh, somebody's knocking at the door.
He opens the door in Brookline and boom, shoots them four or five times.
No robbery, no robbery, and leaves.
Is it the same guy?
How far is Brookline from Providence?
Not far.
15 hours?
Less than an hour.
Less than an hour.
Yeah, about an hour.
Okay.
It'll be interesting to see if the news is making this connection.
John, another question we have, and we're not going to name names.
What do you make of what we're hearing about this one potential individual at Brown?
Any mention of him on the website has been scrubbed.
Yes.
The university came out with a statement, but what do you make of that without naming the individual?
I know that individual.
And I'll tell you why I know him.
I was at a pro-Hamas.
They took over.
A bunch of these students took over the Rhode Island School of Design, RISD, Mayor, right at the, Rhode Island School of Design is right at the base of the Brown campus.
It's all on College Hill.
So a bunch of RISD, Rhode Island School of Design is an art college, very well esteemed.
They took over a building.
So I was covering, it was basically a pro-Hamas Palestinian takeover rally.
As I am there, this guy comes over, a bunch of the students, they circle me.
They recognize me.
They're like, he's with the police.
So this one of them gets in my face and he's very aggressive and he's yelling and swearing at me in Arabic.
And another student came over and said, I thought he said, I won't say the name, but it's similar to the name in Lion King of one of the characters in Lion King.
As a matter of fact, I think there was a follow-up movie about that person.
So I'm caught off guard.
So I say, yeah, get Lion King over to the side.
So the reason I would remember that, and one of my crew said, hey, you encountered that guy.
You said you made the reference to Lion King.
Because Mayor, his name was not Rudy or John or Harry or David or anything.
It was an odd name.
And then when I saw his photo, my crew, they were saying that that was the guy that got up in your face.
And they're pulling him away.
And he, this guy, he went zero to 60 with temper.
He went like, boom, lightning.
As soon as they said to him, because I'm Roman Catholic, Italian Irish, but I sit on the board.
I'm a board member of the Rhode Island Coalition for Israel.
So what Rhode Island Coalition for Israel?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, we're on the same target, my friend.
I'm Catholic, and I'm also, I just had a bunch of Chabad people here celebrating Hanukkah with me.
Yes, and I they reach out to me because I help them sometimes with if there's any crime in certain neighborhoods.
But anyhow, so one of them said he's he's with, you know, basically said he's with the Jews.
And this guy flew with the Jews.
Thank God.
Jesus.
Maybe because Jesus was a Jew, huh?
Yes.
And I recognize.
So I've spent 15 days in Israel and we went to the West Bank and we were also in Gaza.
This is like way back, but we encountered this guy they were detaining.
And it was an Arab and a Palestinian, and he was going after the Israeli police.
And it flashed like that's what I thought of.
Like, I hadn't heard anyone talk in that manner from when I was in the West Bank.
Could he be a suspect?
So what do you so?
So what do you make about the fact they scrubbed him?
I understand.
What do you mean, scrubbed him?
What does that mean?
He had a who did, Brown?
This individual that we're not naming at this time.
We're not.
Who has been?
A lot of folks online have circulated his information.
A lot of you may understand, especially with the line king reference who we're speaking about.
This individual, any reference to him was removed from the brown.edu website.
And the university is now coming out, I believe, and has said the reason for that is in order to protect their students from doxing.
However, John, I mean, what you're telling us now is that you had a very aggressive interaction with this individual.
Oh, yeah.
That should concern folks.
So, I mean, we don't want to speculate here, but what do you make of all this?
What do you does?
Brown have a history of why would, but no, no, just Ted, let me ask you something.
Why would they remove this guy from the website?
How could this one person affect the Brown students?
Well, because I've been online today, there's been a lot of circulating of this person's face and his name without the police, without official authorities making any comments on the individual.
So the university may have removed.
Was he like an extremist?
Yes, this is so.
Okay, you can see John has met him.
He was an Islamic extremist.
He was a Palestinian.
Palestinian.
He's a Palestinian with ties to pro-Palestinian groups.
We had a paper out there.
So I.
And what was his tie to Brown?
He was a student, a visiting fellow, something.
Yes, exactly.
But definitely known on the campus.
Definitely known.
I don't know about a leader, but during the flare-up after October 7th, I attended a rally where they were saying, you know, I sold the glory to our motors, which is basically paying tribute to the Hamas members that attacked on October 7th.
So anyone uses that language.
I want to be very clear.
And I appreciate it, but we don't know if he's involved.
Right.
But we don't.
But I can tell you this.
But, John.
I can tell you this, though, but no, they cannot find him.
So I went to one building today where I knew of another student.
And I went and said, I'd like to try to find.
I won't say who it was.
And she said, oh, he's gone.
I said, well, when's he coming back?
And the girl said, he took a flight Saturday night out of Kennedy and he flew to, I don't know, you know, Denmark, or he flew, he's already in Belgium.
Or so.
Wait, wait, no, no, no.
She made the point that he flew to a different country.
I was asking out of the country.
I was actually asking about a different student that I was aware of.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I didn't ask about that particular one.
Oh, okay.
This is a different just as an example.
Right.
This is, and Mayor, you can address that.
This is problematic because it's not like the police could just go and bring these people in for questioning.
They're not, they're not in Massachusetts.
They're not in Florida.
They're not in New York.
Some of them are around, you know, other parts of the world.
Well, that's how they operate.
I mean, yes.
Well, that's where the mistake by the university releasing students.
Yes.
Apparently, prematurely.
This is one of the questions, Sean, before we let you go.
Okay.
If you don't mind, we would love to have you back in the next couple of years.
Yeah, definitely.
Follow this.
really are but you're terrific uh the the the the from the very beginning right Yep.
The feeling about this is they're holding information back.
And there can be good reasons for that, and there can be bad reasons for that.
I mean, the good reasons are investigative.
The bad reasons are they engage politically incorrect subjects that we don't want to talk about.
Right.
Right.
So let me touch on that.
Tell me how you feel Sunday night.
You feel comfortable about the investigation because I really rely on you.
You've got so much experience with police investigations.
And then I'll tell you afterwards my feeling about it, but I want to hear you.
You would like this command staff a lot.
You would like this command staff.
This command staff at the Providence Police Department.
And by the way, my grandfather on my mother's side was yeah, yeah, I do actually.
I'm going to tell you, I like what I see.
Yeah, but here's the problem.
On Sunday night, when they had to announce that they released this guy, it was very embarrassing.
Yeah.
And I was there Sunday, and they were relying.
They were outranked, by the way, by the FBI.
You know, paramilitary operation, FBI comes in, takes over.
Okay, we got your suspect or we have your person of interest.
So Sunday night, it was egg on their face.
They're very embarrassed.
So at this point, they only want to put out something that will benefit the investigation.
For instance, we want to know.
That's understandable.
And we want to say things.
But right now, they're being very, very cautious.
I think if they didn't have the whole situation of the person detained, person of interest, and then released, I think they would be more relaxed and maybe a little more confident.
That really threw everybody.
Right.
When I left.
You don't think you're getting all the information you would normally get.
You know, but I police always hold stuff back.
You know, I mean, they always do.
I mean, because for various reasons, as you know, otherwise people backfill and they don't want to.
I was doing a case.
They were looking at someone and you know this and people may not understand this, but if they say to someone, you know, did you leave your house that night?
And the guy says no.
And then they say, well, we, we have you down the street riding by.
The suspect could say, oh, that's right.
I couldn't sleep.
So I went for a ride.
You never want to give them a chance to alter their story.
So they understand its high profile.
I feel very confident about the Providence police.
I do.
Good.
And they yeah.
No, they're the real deal.
Um, again, they're not inexperienced.
I've dealt with some police that are in over the head.
This is not the case.
So, but make no mistake about it.
This is, you know, look what happened with New York City, with Luigi, right?
I mean, he bikes out of Central Park, then he's in the taxi, then he's on the bus at 125th Street.
Granted, he left some DNA, but if he is more careful at McDonald's, if the person in McDonald's in Pennsylvania doesn't recognize the eyebrows, I don't know.
I'm not saying they never would have got him.
He'd been gone for a long time.
You're right.
Yes.
You're right.
One last thing I want to leave with you.
This is how people should think of this.
And this is going to frighten some people.
But I was talking with a member, FBI agent today, and he said, the way people should think of this is the January 6th pipe bomber.
If you look at that video, that individual, first of all, took five years to get that person for whatever reason.
That's ridiculous.
It is.
But if you watch the videos, that individual, very cautious, right?
Walk, sit down on a bench, look around.
They have a lot of similarities.
Go around like that.
This individual, he's walking down the street.
He's looking for where cameras are.
He's, you know, I do want to share with the element of the hands behind the back.
As one police officer said, you know, I work the college campus.
You don't see young kids walk with their arms behind them.
Yeah, that's no young kid.
That's not your young kid.
That's also a trait of someone either from Europe or they do it in the Middle East, Middle Eastern people.
There's a restaurant I go to.
The owner is a friend of mine.
He's Lebanese.
He's from Lebanon.
And he walks.
And his son walks around with the robes behind their back.
It's just not where I go for a run each day.
There's a guy that walks his dog and dogs and he walks with his hands behind his back, but most people don't.
And I found, again, I found that somewhat interesting.
So I don't think this is going to be solved right away.
Everybody's tired.
You can appreciate that.
They have been going nonstop.
They're feeling the heat.
They want to update people, but it is a city in panic right now.
Well, we're going to keep checking in with you, John, because if you can give us, you know, a really good grounding on what's going on in the world.
What an honor.
Wait till I tell my kids who are going to be able to do it.
Well, what an honor I have with Mayor Giuliani.
I got to tell you, you get an A-plus as a crime reporter.
Wow.
Thank you, Mayor.
You are fabulous.
That is huge.
Wow.
You got to live it.
I'll tell you.
You got to be there.
You got to be there.
So, Mayor, anytime.
Thank you.
Anytime.
We'll be right, guys.
Great.
I was going to wish you Merry Christmas.
We're going to be talking to you before Christmas.
All right.
Thank you, Mayor.
Good night, everybody.
Good night.
Thank you, John.
Thank you very much for giving you, giving us so much of your time and your expertise.
And you don't know what it means to have a guy that knows the streets of Providence.
When I was a prosecutor and an investigator, if I had this guy, man, I'd solve this thing much faster than they do.
But you can't judge by me.
I was like a genius at this.
Isn't that terrible for me to say that?
It really is.
But I have to be fair.
I think I already have it kind of figured out, listening to him.
I'd like to talk to him offline a little bit.
I have a pretty good idea of what happened here now.
That guy is terrific.
You can't substitute for, I don't know, 20 years of experience in Providence.
And then he comes from New York, right?
So he has the New York experience as well.
So that's fabulous.
So let's see what else we have to cover now that we are in soccer time.
Have we done all of our necessary commercials?
We've done the commercials.
Maybe we'll play the Rudy Coffee Christmas one again.
No, but here's what I want to do.
I want to tell you that we've been talking about national security quite a bit, haven't we?
We've been talking about what's going on in Syria.
We lost two very, very wonderful members of our military in Syria.
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And during the holiday season, I mean, this is when most people think of things like this.
People we should gift and people we should help.
And who better to do that with than the people who put their lives at risk for us?
And we have just seen an example of putting our lives at risk for us.
is not just a saying it happened in syria to someone in the name of muhammad came and killed two two of our brave members of the united states national guard the military So their families have to be taken care of.
We can't protect all of them.
We can't prevent all of it.
But we can be there if God forbid the worst thing happens.
So we advertise every night for t2t.org, but this is Christmas season.
This is a season in which attacks are taking place on us from this 1400-year plague on us called Muslim.
Desire to kill Christians and Jews.
Now, you tell me most Muslims don't have that desire.
I agree.
But a lot do.
And I'd like to hear the ones who don't speak up.
Then I could feel more confident that most Muslims don't.
But I don't hear them say anything.
And I'm getting tired of it.
I've been saying this too long now.
You know, the first night of September 11, one of the first things Bernie Carrick and I did was put out patrols to protect the Islamic community.
Nothing happened to them.
I lost thousands of my own people to Muhammad.
Nothing happened to them.
I protected them.
And I don't remember their speaking up very strongly on our behalf, nor do I see it now.
And that's the part that is really necessary if we're going to turn this.
If we're going to change this 14, 1500 year curse, The Muslims who don't agree that you should kill, you should kill Jews and you should kill Christians and you should wipe out the infidels.
And I'm sure there are a lot of Muslims that don't agree with that.
Let them come over and condemn the people who do that each time they do it.
It'll stop it.
But that hasn't happened yet.
And that's what we want to happen, Ted.
That's right, Mayor.
And again, following up on what John had shared with us, this is breaking news tonight.
We, it is, and this is fast-moving news, excuse me, for the uh, this is an MIT professor.
So an MIT professor.
Oh, yeah, I've been shot.
I wrote that down.
The MIT Jewish professor who was someone knocked on his door and killed him.
MIT professor of nuclear science and physics, Nuno Lore Loreo.
I'm sorry, we want to get the name correct in this incident, but this is a professor of nuclear science and physics.
He was just shot and killed at his home in Brookline, Massachusetts.
Just shot and killed.
How long ago?
Last night.
So this is not just this has been covered.
Well, I did mention it today as we were talking about, you know, there's just so much fast-moving news here.
So my apologies.
I'm also bringing up pictures of him as we talk to you here.
So bear with us.
This is a picture of the professor.
What's his name?
His name.
And again, we want to get his pronunciation right.
Nuno Loreo.
L-O-U-R-E-I-R-O.
He's a Harvard professor?
M-I-T.
Same thing.
M-I-T.
So, again, I apologize.
This is fast-moving information here.
M-I-T professor shot and killed Monday night at his home in Brookline, Massachusetts.
Again, that's just 50 minutes away from Providence.
And officials say he did, in fact, have strong pro-Israel views.
Yeah, strong pro-Israel.
He was pronounced dead Tuesday morning.
The shooter is at large.
The professor was in MIT's Department of Nuclear Science and Engineering in the Department of Physics and was also director of MIT's Plasma Science and Fusion Center.
Again, this is a this happened last night at his home, Monday night.
He was fatally shot at his Brookline home.
Okay, we've got all everything.
Now it is interesting.
Again, you can't help but make the connection.
This is Brookline, Massachusetts, just under an hour away from Providence, Rhode Island.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, again, this Monday night, he was pronounced dead Tuesday morning.
So he was brought to the hospital with gunshot wounds.
This is an active and ongoing homicide investigation.
Well, his name is Nino F.J. Luario.
He's a 47-year-old professor of nuclear science and engineering and physics at MIT.
He was fatally shot multiple times in the foyer of his home on Gibb Street in Brookline, Massachusetts.
He was transported to a hospital where he died early on December 16th.
That's this morning.
2025.
Authorities, including the Norfolk County District Attorney's Office, Massachusetts State Police, and Brookline Police are investigating this.
Well, yeah, it's an act of homicide.
They're damn well better.
No suspects are in custody and limited details have been released.
Larrero was the director of MIT's Plasma Science and Fusion Center, a prominent research in plasma physics and fusion energy, originally from Portugal.
MIT president Sally Kornbluth described his death as a shocking loss, and the university is providing support to the community.
Neighbors reported hearing loud shots around 8:30 to 9 p.m., followed by a child crying.
One neighbor described seeing Lorero on the floor and calling 911.
There is no confirmed link to other recent incidents.
For example, the Brown University shooting.
So that's what we have.
What you're telling me is he was an outspoken supporter of Israel.
That's what we are reading.
We're trying to get information on his family makeup.
Again, this is a child that was heard screaming.
You said after the shooting mayor, there was a scream?
Yes.
Okay.
So we're trying to get information on whether or not he had a family, which would explain.
Neither would explode.
Wait.
So homicide detectives are investigating after this professor was found shot to death in his home.
And again, this happening Monday night, just 48 hours after the shooting at Brown University.
And our understanding is that he was pro-Israel.
You know, the worst part of this is when you talk about Massachusetts, we're in the hands of very, very politicized, possibly law enforcement.
He did have a wife and young kids.
And it's very hard for me who never experienced that to work my way through that.
Are they telling us the truth?
Are they holding things back?
Do they have a political bias?
And what, you know, and the university bias.
There's nothing in Massachusetts that I trust.
Not a single thing.
So, and excuse me, if you're the Massachusetts police or the Boston police, but your bosses are seem to me to be working for the other side.
So.
And how about the news media?
The fact that, I mean, this story, and again, we don't want to jump to conclusions, but it cannot be ignored that this shooting at a well, I don't know if I mean MIT IV and somebody walks up to the door of an MIT Jewish professor on the second night of Hanukkah or whatever it was.
Yeah, the third night night of Hanukkah, last night, and shoots and kills him.
Right, right, right.
Second night.
And he's an outspoken supporter of Israel.
I don't know.
You don't have to be much of a reporter to figure out that there's a story there.
Right.
Now, of course, you got to leave open the possibility of something happening.
There's any possibilities when it goes the other way.
Of course not.
Well, I mean, the most obvious connection is a Jewish, an outspoken supporter of Israel, professor at MIT, gets shot in cold blood on the second night of Hanukkah.
Right.
Now, there might be some other reason.
Maybe the guy has some other problem, but what's the thing that first comes to mind?
The political situation.
Right, that's right now.
Going back to the Brown incident.
The university has come out and explained the removal of this individual's information from the website.
Uh again, this is remember.
This is the president of Brown, who didn't know, who basically didn't know any of the details of this for four hours.
Right, she was so interested in what happened.
Right, how long is she going to be?
You're going to keep her on for a long time at Brown?
I mean, just keep her on so more irresponsible things can happen.
Yeah, it's clear that uh, she's.
She must have been some kind of liberal fix.
Well, and they're unwilling to say much at the time, and and and eventually reporters got fed up with it.
And when we heard, when I heard her, when I heard her on the, on the press conference, it didn't strike me as the kind of intellect that should be running an Ivy League school.
Listen to her, with all due respect.
Six hours after the shooting, and you said, you don't know what, what was going on in that classroom.
How does that happen?
Were they taking an exam?
Were they meeting for a club?
I don't know, I don't know.
Six hours later, and you're the president and you don't know, I do not know.
Well, six hours later, why have a president president, and you don't know?
Why the hell are you doing the press conference?
We don't need you sweetheart, right?
President of Brown, why don't you go off and have a cocktail or something?
That sure inspires confidence?
Uh, if you're a parent, six hours later, you don't know what happened and you're the president of Brown, that sure inspires you.
Just had, you just had a.
You just had a unbelievably brutal double homicide on your campus.
How often do you have that sweetheart boy?
I mean, what does it take for the board to figure out?
You're useless.
I don't have no idea what your area of study is or what your expertise is, but why don't you go do that?
There are several nice monasteries around where you could do that and not harm people.
But you, six hours later, and you don't know.
What do they give the Ivy League schools for tuition?
90 000 a year.
Here's the president today.
It's probably.
I want to begin by thanking the many law enforcement agencies who continue to work around the clock on this case.
It's very impressive.
I also want to thank the mayor and the governor for their continued support.
The primary point that I wanted to address before we get to questions is that Brown is deeply committed to the safety and security and well-being of our community and i've been deeply saddened to see people questioning that.
We understand that as time goes on, there is maybe a natural instinct to assign responsibility for a tragic event like this.
Anxiety and fear is very natural, but the shooter is responsible.
Horrific gun violence took the lives of these students and hospitalized others, and it's deeply sad and tragic that schools across the country are targets of violence.
Brown is no exception.
We are cooperating fully with law enforcement and again we thank the multiple agencies that have been working so hard uh, day and night, with increased patrols, to keep our campus safe.
well she kind of contradicted herself the shooter is responsible but prolific gun violence is also responsible no it's either one or the other i mean the shooter is the one who activates the gun prolific gun violence you'd assume the gun activates itself right and uh uh by the way you don't do a good job on either On either one.
Like, for example, if the teaching assistant who was conducting that study review and class had a gun, Elle would be alive tonight.
He could have blown his brains out.
Right.
He says he saw him.
He made eye contact with him.
And then he ducked.
Suppose we were in Texas, not in Rhode Island, Massachusetts.
The guy had a gun.
And he made eye contact with me.
He saw the gun come out.
Suppose he was sort of a John Wayne type.
And he just reached in, pulled the gun out.
We'd have two innocent people alive tonight, Professor, that aren't alive now.
And you want to preach to me about guns?
You got the most strict gun laws in the world in Rhode Island.
It didn't help keep those two young people alive.
You didn't do much to keep them alive either.
You didn't know what happened until six hours.
What were you doing?
Are you a football?
Will you watch a football?
Come on.
Try to snow somebody else, okay?
This is what is happening throughout the Ivy League.
This is what they like.
This is their intellectual arrogance, which takes the place of intellectual laziness, which they have in large, large measure.
And I don't know how this is going to come out.
I don't know who did this.
I don't know even if the theory that she was the target of this, which seems to be everyone's assumption.
And I don't have any reason to dispute that or agree with it.
But the reality is something is amiss in the state of Denmark, which means Brown University.
And before we finish this, we got to find out what it is so it doesn't happen again.
Hopefully the focus on it, hopefully the focus on it will reveal that.
And we can do something positive here with these two young people at the beginning of extraordinarily promising lives that were just sitting in at a review class at the Barrison-Holly Engineering and Physics Building in Brown.
One of them, the young man, just accompanying a friend and the other, a very good student, who now are gone.
Their lives no longer exist.
Their futures no longer exist.
We don't know why yet.
Well, we got to find out why so we can prevent it from happening in the future.
And we got to get through a lot of the Ivy League cover-up and left-wing cover-up to get there, but we'll get there.
We'll get there.
Yes, we will.
Sydney is a little clearer.
That was done in the name of Muhammad.
They did that because the Quran tells them to do it.
When you change the Quran, maybe you'll stop it.
And when I have to stop saying, well, most of the Muslims are really very, very good people and they don't engage in murder and they have nothing to do with murder.
When they take that Quran and they strike out all that crap in it about killing Jews and doing away with Christians, and they do the same thing with the Hadith and the biography of their pedophile murderer, then we'll get somewhere.
And until we can stand up and be courageous enough to say that's what we're facing, we'll get somewhere.
You know, for decades, Mayor, for decades, I don't know, maybe it's changed a little bit.
For decades, it was off limits to make any jokes about Islam or the Muslim faith.
Meanwhile, you know, Christianity wide open.
Jewish jokes.
There's nothing joking about a pedophile murderer like Muhammad.
He's not a joke.
I guess that wasn't a pervert.
He was a pervert.
There's even a doubt whether he existed.
But if he existed, he is a hell of a model for a religion who makes you question whether it should be a religion, whether it should be granted the same scope that a religion that is not about the killing of people is granted.
Well, we've covered that.
I think we've covered most everything.
I do want to make a statement about marijuana and cannabis, because the president is going to reclassify them to make them more available as a prescription drug.
That's a terrible mistake, Mr. President, my good friend.
Every study that has come out in the last five years has from everywhere, started in Europe, and then it got the courage of America to do it.
There is a big, big cannabis industrial military complex paying for us to make marijuana more available.
That would be a terrible mistake.
It would be just enormously destructive to the youth of America.
Every study that has come out in the last five to six years since we went crazy on the idea of making marijuana legal has shown that marijuana is exceedingly dangerous.
It is more dangerous than alcohol, without any question.
It has an effect on the brain that in several ways is very, and the younger you are, the more effective this is.
It tends to reduce your ability to engage in cognitive thinking.
It also has a tremendous connection, like a 20 to 30% higher connection with mental illnesses involving violence.
The Journal of the American Medical Association says that clinical trials do not support the use of cannabis for most conditions for which it is promoted, such as accused pain or insomnia.
There are much better alternatives.
So this idea to use medical marijuana is just the same thing as making marijuana legal.
It's in order to help organize crime and the people who deal in drugs to have a greater audience, a larger number of people.
Every time you legalize this, more people become addicted.
We've already gone through this.
Every place we've legalized marijuana, the number of people using marijuana has gone up two or three times.
Then, worse than that, the ingredients, the power of them has gone up two or three times in order to compete.
It doubles your risk of heart disease and stroke.
Even at the earlier, this is a study from the American Medical Association.
It vastly increased the risk of psychosis and anxiety disorder.
Almost 30% of the people using marijuana met the criteria for cannabis use disorder, otherwise known as addiction.
Do you know that people using opioids are only at 3 to 12%?
So people using opioids become addicted.
3 to 12% of the people using opioids, depending on the situation, become addicted to opioids.
30% of the people using marijuana do.
Marijuana users are 51% more likely than non-users to have a heart attack.
I don't want to tell you what the percentage is on brain damage.
And the younger they use it, the more the brain damage becomes permanent.
And it doesn't matter if it's medical marijuana or non-medical marijuana.
It does the same damn damage to your brain.
38 states in Washington, D.C. now let doctors make medical marijuana recommendation.
In Pennsylvania in 2022, 17 doctors issued an astounding 132,000 medical marijuana certifications.
In other words, this little group of doctors is one-third of the state certifications because it's a little industry because the medical marijuana was an excuse to get marijuana.
We got to be stupid to figure that out.
One 2024 study found that the connection between daily cannabis use and higher rates of violence, especially among young people, was at 30%.
A massive Danish study linked the drug to as many as 30% of schizophrenia cases among young people.
A Colorado study where, you know, you can't drive around Colorado without getting high.
It's in the air.
They have so much damn cannabis there is that it has a direct relationship to the tremendous rise in property crime.
A landmark 2024 study found a strong connection between legalized recreational pot and increases in murder, larceny, and other crimes.
So I know big weed has done a great job of paying off the politicians to see if we can expand it even more.
All of the assumptions and all the arguments about legalizing marijuana for medical use or for recreational use have turned out in studies to be catastrophic.
Mr. President, please, these people that are talking here, they go back about 10 years.
They haven't read any of the studies that have taken place in the last 10 years.
And they're just plain wrong.
And they probably have an economic interest with pot farms and who knows what the hell else.
Now, you want one other thing?
You know this whole thing about how medical marijuana is much better than other things for Medical marijuana is pretty much useless.
This is a big review that was done at UCLA.
Hardly a right-wing audience.
They analyzed more than 2,500 scientific papers.
No solid clinical evidence that medical marijuana works.
It also has very significant and determinable side effects called insomnia, anxiety, PTSD, Parkinson's disease, rheumatoid arthritis.
It has no clear, positive result, and it has very, very clear negative results.
Finally, the long-term studies suggest that if it's used with adolescents, people face high rates of psychotic symptoms.
This is not the time to be loosening up on medical marijuana.
This is the time to be.
Let's pull it back in, huh?
Save our kids.
Well, we'll be back tomorrow.
We've got plenty more to cover.
We never get through everything that we have.
You want to hear Cardinal Dolan's...
I do.
We'll finish with Cardinal Dolan's statement to show the inextricable and unbreakable connection between all of us who believe in Jesus Christ and the Jewish religion.
After all, that's the religion that he died as part of.
Jesus was a Jew.
And everything he said in the Gospels and in his life and in his teaching tells us to love and respect the religion from which we emerge.
And those of us who veered from that, we have a hard time calling ourselves Christians.
So let's listen to Cardinal Dolan, who is just a wonderful man.
Thanks for tuning in, everybody, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the Monday of this third week of Advent and the first day of Hanukkah for our Jewish neighbors.
I don't know if you remember sadly here in New York hearing about there was a terribly mean protest outside one of our Jewish synagogues here in New York City.
So sad, so tragic, so troubling.
And the crowd was yelling out to the Jewish people going into the synagogue for Sabbath, be scared, be scared.
Can you imagine them shouting to these poor people who simply wanted to worship the one true God?
Be scared.
All right.
Uh-uh.
We remember the words of the Bible, be not afraid.
Be not afraid.
Jesus says it.
He learned it from his father.
It's the most common phrase in the Bible.
We're not scared at all because we believe in God, the Father Almighty, and his only Son, whose birthday we await.
We're not scared at all because he told us, be not afraid.
Thank you, Cardinal.
You make me very proud.
So pray for the people of Israel and pray for the people of Ukraine, the people of Iran, who are in harm's way.
Pray for our soldiers who, as we find out, always very surprisingly are in harm's way to protect us.
Pray for our police, same thing.
And pray for these people like this young man and woman who died at Brown.
Who knows why?
We'll find out.
We owe it to them to find out.
And to their families.
And to the families of the soldiers who lost their lives way far away in Syria.
So let's pray to God for help and assistance in all of this.
And of course, let's proclaim together with great strength and great certitude what we need.
God bless America.
It's our purpose to bring to bear the principle of common sense and rational discussion to the issues of our day.
America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
There was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers, in which Thomas Paine explained, by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
Because the desire for freedom is universal.
The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
The greatest democracy, the freest country, a country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason.