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Nov. 19, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show: Wednesday, November 19, 2025
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Good evening.
This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is the Rudy Giuliani Show.
After the show, we're going to jump in the ocean.
That, of course, is the Atlantic Ocean right here in Palm Beach.
If you get in that ocean right there and you go straight across and end up south of Ireland, yeah.
Probably somewhere somewhere south of England and probably closer than we're going to take a little closer to northern France, which is what I would think.
Then you could have sneak your way into the Mediterranean, go past Gibraltar.
Oh, I better stop dreaming and start working, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, if we kept going long enough, we wouldn't be dreaming very much.
We'd be in the Middle East, right?
We'd be up by the Suez Canal.
Which brings me to Saudi Arabia.
Today, of course, the president finished the second day of, and his administration, of course, because the things that are being discussed involve scores of people to work out.
I mean, the president and the crown prince did the heavy work, the agreement work, which is very, very hard.
But now there's another bit of heavy work, which is working out all the, well, exactly how many F-35s, and what are they going to be delivered?
And what kind are they?
And I assume they have agreed on the price tag, but there'll be variations about their capabilities and the things they can do that will change the price quite dramatically.
When are they going to be ready?
And I assume training goes along with this.
F-30, I don't know that the Saudi Air Force has flyers, pilots, many of them, if any, that know how to fly the F-35.
It's not easy.
It's a very, very difficult plane.
It isn't the best fighter plane now.
It's the best fighter plane ever.
It can run rings around rings around the made in China planes and Russia as well.
Our technology, despite the fact that everyone is worried about China catching us, China has not caught us in terms of the sophistication of our technology.
It has caught us, for example, in the number of ships.
They have more.
They're catching up in numbers to a very large extent.
They are disturbingly and in a way that should concern us, challenging our technological lead, but they haven't surpassed it, which is something that we should understand.
That shouldn't make us complacent.
At the same time, it should make us realistic.
If we can continue putting a tremendous amount of emphasis on our national defense, right, we will be able to stay way ahead of them.
If we stayed Biden-like, they would lead us very, very shortly.
So what did this so far, what's the what kind of bills and orders and time to pay the bill as the Crown Prince leaves?
What's he paying for?
He's paying for a significant number of F-35s.
I think we've sold the most to Israel over the years.
And of course, they already have the pilots that can fly them.
And there's no doubt we will not sell them anywhere near the number we sell Israel.
But we'll sell them to them.
This has been discussed.
There was even some discussion of it publicly with Israel.
And there are certain things that have been agreed on that I don't think are public about this whole deal that Israel is comfortable with.
Now remember, a number of things had to have been worked out, which I have no doubt were worked out.
Just about a year or so ago, yeah.
Maybe just a while ago, the Saudis conducted a military exercise with China.
So the question is, are they vulnerable to espionage by China?
Now, number one, I would say that without any doubt, that is written in and there are guarantees just in case.
Number two, I think you have to realize that that action with China is a one-off that really stemmed from an agreement that was made when everybody in the Middle East was looking for protection because Biden seemed to be on the side of Iran.
I know when I say that, the left wing goes crazy and nuts and that he was financing Iran, but Saudi Arabia could probably count every penny of it.
Since you realize, don't you, that Saudi Arabia is in as much fear of being attacked militarily by Iran as Israel is.
In fact, until a few years ago, and when I was going to the Middle East, the fear in Saudi Arabia was greater than the fear in Israel because the hatred of the Jewish people and the religious,
the religious necessity, obligation placed on them by Muhammad to eliminate the Jews is 1400 years old.
The hatred between the Persians and the Arabs is more like 3,000 years old.
So we got two old horrible hatreds operating here and distrust.
And the other reason for the F-35s, in the past, we wouldn't sell it to them for fear of endangering Israel.
I think now there is a strong feeling that this is a wise dipping your toe in the water.
You got it over there.
Dipping your toe in the water because this is going to bring you to a peace agreement.
If it hasn't already brought you to a closer, much closer, much more communicative relationship where things can be worked out.
I don't mean just between the United States, but I mean between Israel and Saudi Arabia.
They're more than capable of conducting their own relationship.
They have for 40 years or so behind closed doors and without acknowledging it.
At times, Saudi Arabia was probably Israel's biggest partner in the Middle East, even for a longer period and more extensively than Iran before it turned into the insane Islamic republic that it has been now for 54, 55 years.
The F-35 deal also is going to involve originally $600 billion of investments in the American economy by their fund, which is one of the richest and strongest in the world.
That's now going up to $1 trillion.
And the president at some point made a kind of a comment.
Well, let's make a 1.5.
I didn't see MBS go.
He did go from the six to the one when the president might have pushed just a little too far, but that's why he's our president, right?
And then, of course, hanging in the balance is a defense agreement between the United States and Saudi Arabia.
And this one, I think, comes with a price.
I think this one comes with a price of having worked out all your Abraham Accord issues, because this is a big thing for Saudi Arabia.
Now, it also bears some real value for us, or brings some real value for us.
The defense agreement would be very much like the one they talked about with Ukraine and even thought they had until Putin either backed off or every single American misunderstood it.
You know what I think.
And that was that in the case of Ukraine, if Ukraine would not become part of NATO, but would get a NATO-like Article IV condition, which is if they're attacked, everybody comes to their defense.
That's what Saudi Arabia is looking for, a NATO trigger that says if they're attacked, NATO comes to their defense.
Now, why do they want that?
It's all directed to the country right north of them, Iran.
A lot of that could be eliminated if we eliminated the reign of terror and we brought in there a government like Walid Faraz was talking about last night, a government that was friendly to the United States, Saudi Arabia.
I don't know how difficult it'd be to get Iran to come around being friendly with Israel.
They were before they were radicalized.
Probably pretty easy.
You know, the Saudis, the Iranians, and the Israelis share in common an I mean, they all have MBAs in business.
They are all extraordinarily intelligent people in the art of creating business opportunities.
And I know at times, for sick reasons, the idea that the Jewish people are very good at business is used as a negative to me.
Okay, if you're not good in business, I want to be Jewish.
You know, come on, don't be ridiculous.
So if I were to say, this is true, that the Cubans who came to this country were very good in business.
Nobody in the world that thinks I'm insulting them.
But if somebody says the Jewish people are good in business, it's thought of as an insult.
And for some people, it is an insult.
So it's not just thought of as an insult crazily, sort of because they have a history of that.
If we could straighten out and get rid of anti-Semitism, we'd go a long way to curing mental illness, I think.
It's so prevalent, it has existed for so long, and it is so absolutely, completely, hatefully irrational.
I don't think I have to know anything about it, but a few objective facts to realize that.
So MBS is off to somewhere.
Is he going someplace else in the United States?
I think he is.
But in any event, the president, I guess, in one brief shiny moment in the life of MBS, made it clear why MBS is so loyal to him, even when he was out of office.
And if you have it, do you have the question about killing Khashoggi?
Now, I followed that case very, very closely.
And I am interested from a professional point of view, and also maybe just from there are things you're interested in, things you're not.
I mean, I used to play Clue and murder mystery games when I was eight years old.
And then, of course, I did some real ones, not just Clue.
So I spent a great deal of time on the Khashoggi murder.
And I came to the conclusion, independent of the president.
Now, it is true, I was a lawyer at the time, so I was privy probably to facts that not everybody was privy to, although there were some they wouldn't let me have that I wanted to have because I think I could have really answered it definitively.
But with the information I had, which is the information you have plus a little bit more, I do not think he ordered the killing of that guy.
It's totally contrary to the direction he was going in from the day he first became a public figure, from the day he first began writing, from the day he first began talking.
He's been on a, it's kind of like Trump.
He's been on a clear path.
And it's a clear path.
There's a very different view of Saudi Arabia.
He almost lost the crown or the about to get crown as a result of that.
And he can be very tough.
But this is not a guy that appears to be trigger happy and essentially violent.
He wants to see a very big, different kind of country with Saudi Arabia.
He wants Saudi Arabia to be as modern and as accepted as its wealth should allow them to be.
He's a modern person.
If you listen to him, even to the extent, the small extent to which he discusses religion, he's got a pretty good idea of much better than most Americans do, and certainly much better than most left-wingers do.
of the dangers of the Muslim religion.
And of course, it's constrained by the reality of the Saudi street, which is not just a street.
It's really an expression for the extremist Sunnis in that country that would, if they could, blow up the entire palace and get rid of the entire royal family, which he has to also protect.
I do not see him murdering the guy who might have been not just a journalist, but an agent, or they may have believed he was.
I think even if that were the case, that's totally inconsistent with everything he's written and everything he's tried to do before and after that.
So, look, who knows?
It's never going to get solved, I guess.
Things like that often don't.
But I think just to knee-jerk, blame it on him because he's the top guy and blame it on him because he was the new guy on the block and blame it on him because you get a couple of people that you probably put in boiling water and get him to say,
oh, I remember he said something like he winked one time when we talked about it, which is the quality evidence is like, you know, would you rid me of this meddlesome journalist?
That kind of thing.
So.
I think we have with us, is Allison with us?
Oh, that's good because we want to get a word from that exciting place for the last two days.
I think this relationship and this becoming much closer with Saudi Arabia and MBS is a real breakthrough.
But you tell us about everything that's happened because a lot of different things have happened.
Yes, there is a good breakthrough there, but I've primarily been focused on the ongoing events on Capitol Hill.
As you know, the Epstein files have been the talk of the town here for the last several days as the discharge petition was voted on and is now sitting on the president's desk to be signed to release all the files in their entirety.
This obviously comes after months of back and forth, President Trump saying it's a hoax to now urging Republicans to sign it.
So we got all the votes needed.
There was a lot of drama in the House and the Senate yesterday on the topic of the Epstein files.
But I think most notable here is what we learned recently about House delegate Stacey Plaskett, who represents the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Mind you, Epstein actually had a place there in the U.S. Virgin Islands.
And he was caught texting with this Stacey Plaskett during a hearing back in 2019.
You know, she was texting him, figuring out how she could dish up some more dirt on President Trump and throw him under the bus.
Now, as a result of that, Mr. Mayor, there was a motion to censure her last night that came just after the vote to move forward on the discharge petition.
Unfortunately, that vote failed to censure Stacy Plaskett because we are now learning that Corey Mills is somehow involved in this.
Corey Mills is a Republican.
And we're now learning because of members like Anna Paulina Luna, Tim Burchett, are saying that Corey Mills is complicit in this because he is basically running cover for the Democrats.
They're making backroom deals so that he is protected and is ultimately working for the Democrats.
It's a very complex situation.
But basically, if Stacey Plaskett was able to have been censured successfully, she would have been stripped from her committee assignments.
She would have been, you know, condemned for her involvement with Epstein.
But we couldn't even accomplish that.
Now we have a Republican member who's supposed to be fighting the good fight on behalf of the American citizens, who's seemingly now just a fraud.
Nancy Mace is highlighting the fact that he is, you know, there's a domestic dispute issue related to him, shady business dealings, and even stolen valor.
So now as a result of all of this, Nancy Mace is motioning to censure Corey Mills tonight.
We'll see what happens there.
The vote is set to happen in the next hour or so.
So again, we'll see how that pans out.
But there's just so much dirt coming out on so many people after the Epstein files.
I know the Democrats thought they were going to use this as an opportunity to get Trump, but it's just ultimately proving that the corruption is riddled deeply throughout the swamp.
And there are many members of Congress who are potentially implicating another witch is Hakeem Jeffries.
This was revealed last night on the House floor by House Oversight Chairman James Comer.
Let's take a listen to what he had to say last night.
And then I'm going to follow up with the question I asked Hakeem Jeffries today.
Take a listen.
Colleagues, coordination with Epstein.
Another email shows Democrat fundraisers invited Epstein to an event or to meet privately with Hakeem Jeffries as part of their 2013 effort to win a majority.
So Hakeem Jeffries' campaign solicited money from Jeffrey Epstein.
That's what we found in the last document batch.
The files underscore why former President Trump must appear for his deposition.
We've subpoenaed him.
To date, the Democrats have done nothing to help us secure his appearance.
I support full transparency.
The Oversight Committee will continue to work to get the truth to the American people and to get justice for the victims.
That's our goal of this investigation.
With that, I yield back.
So, oh, I think I lost you, Mr. Mayor.
I can't hear you.
Did he say former President Trump?
He did say former President Trump, and I think that was a mistake.
I think he meant to say former President Clinton, who's obviously deeply implicated in all this.
That was a big slip up.
Big slip up there.
But the fact that I wanted to highlight there is that he, you know, really underscored the point that Hakeem Jeffries not only had dinner with Jeffrey Epstein, but allegedly took money for him from him in his campaign as well back in 2013.
This is, mind you, after he was already a convicted sex offender.
So that raises a lot of questions.
And so Hakeem Jeffries had a press conference today.
And shockingly, by the grace of God, he actually called on me, which I was not expecting.
But I asked him about this because I think we were all wondering after Comer said that last.
We're going to see you ask a question, not chasing somebody.
I didn't have to today.
He actually called on me.
I know it's shocking.
But I was so grateful.
I was like the third person to call on the show.
It's been easy for you to do that.
Wow.
You got so much practice running after people.
I know.
I was a little sad.
I didn't have to chase him down today, but he made my job easy.
I got to ask him sitting down.
Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
House Oversight Chairman Comer said yesterday on the floor that you had Jeffrey Epstein over for dinner and took money from him back in 2013.
Before, you know, this was after he was on the sex offender list.
Any comment on that?
And will you be holding members accountable, regardless of party affiliation, if there were any misdeeds related to the Epstein files?
Was that a serious question or a serious statement from malignant clown James Comer that I had Jeffrey Epstein over for dinner, that I accepted money from Jeffrey Epstein?
What's extraordinary to me about the clown show on the other side of the aisle is that they lie with impunity on things that are objectively verifiable.
And why do they do that?
It's because for months, Republicans have been burying the Jeffrey Epstein files.
Not Democrats.
Our view continues to be the same.
We want to make sure that what the survivors have asked for, which is full and complete transparency in order to bring about accountability, actually happens.
And Congress decisively and in a bipartisan way acted yesterday with respect to the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files.
That's a victory for the survivors and a victory for the American people.
And Donald Trump needs to sign that bill into law expeditiously.
So he didn't say no.
He didn't deny it.
Is there any record of it?
I would imagine there would be if it's the campaign contribution, right?
Yes, there is record.
And Cover brought the receipts on the House floor.
So that is all documented.
Yes, he did.
So he had the campaign finance.
Yes, he did.
And now he's denying and deflecting that that ever happened.
So I just find it really astounding that these Democrats have been on their high horse for the last several months about releasing the files and getting transparency to the American people and justice for the victims.
Yet then when it boils down to the hard facts, they deny and deflect.
And then they have the opportunity to reprimand one of the members of Congress who was arguably complicit in part of this.
And they just failed to do so.
So how are we getting justice to anyone when Democrats just do whatever they can to protect the establishment?
The swamp is so corrupt.
It runs so deep and it's just disgusting.
I find it really amazing that here the president is spending two days trying to get a trillion dollars into our economy from Saudi Arabia,
which will put untold number of people to work, raise salaries, take care of their so-called called affordability issue, which is largely exaggerated and made up, but still also develop a real opening to peace in the middle.
Even the New York Times today said that this was a major accomplishment yesterday in what he was able to accomplish with Saudi Arabia.
For the New York Times to say it was a major accomplishment, it means it was probably the best thing the president has done in 50 years.
I mean, for the time, I'm afraid for the poor guy who wrote it where he's going to be tomorrow.
And this guy, and this guy is all proud of the fact that he's going to put out a bunch of names, and we're never going to know which one of those people, we're probably not going to know from just having the names who the bad guys are, who the good guys are.
And everybody will be under suspicion.
And this is not a great, this Epstein, putting out all these names is not a great victory for anyone.
And I say that as a former prosecutor, not any interest in it.
I don't know Jeffrey Epstein.
I'm glad I never heard of him until the so-called hit the fan.
And if they could be put out with proof, I'd love to see them put out.
But if you're going to put out 500 names and I don't know, did he just know him as a financial advisor?
Did he know him as a friend?
Did he know him as a pimp?
And two are perfectly legal and the other is horrible.
So I hope there's going to be a way that this can be done fairly because they're selling out an awful lot of people for political expediency.
Let's see.
Let's see what happens.
It'll certainly be interesting to see what happens, though.
I think the Democrats are going to continue to ride this out as long as they can.
They held a press conference today saying, you know, if anything in there is redacted, which would obviously be done to protect a number of the victims, then they're not going to be happy.
So they're going to continue to ride this out as long as they can and, you know, extend this far past its shelf life, whatever they have to do to try to combat Trump and his efforts.
So I guess that's far for the suspicion.
I have a suspicion, Allison.
Maybe I'm wrong.
They're going to bite them a lot harder than us.
He was a Democrat.
Very few Republicans had relationships.
Look, I was the mayor of New York, right?
At the time I was mayor, I didn't live there.
But at one point, I lived for a long time, only six blocks from him.
I never met him.
Maybe I knew who he was as a big Democratic fundraiser.
I never met him, never saw him, had no connection with him.
I don't think many of the Republicans I know had any connection with him.
So his social circle, even his financial clients, Mike Summers and all, they're all basically Democrats.
So let's see how this all plays out.
We'll see who those names are.
It'll be interesting to see.
I think the Democrats are going to regret fighting this one so hard.
They might.
Let's see.
Well, good job.
We'll see.
Good job.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Thank you.
So we're going to take a short break.
I'm going to take a little swim in the ocean, and we'll be right back.
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This is Rudy Giuliani.
I'm Rudy Giuliani.
I'm back with you on the Rudy Giuliani show.
In addition, unfortunately, to the tremendous, horrible nature of the ongoing war in Ukraine, where Russians continue to kill mainly Ukrainian civilians as a form of terrorist torture, really.
This is not this really isn't a war anymore, the way I think of a war.
I mean, a war is Russia invades to take territory from Ukraine in violation of a treaty they signed with Ukraine in order to get Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons.
The United States disavows its having signed that agreement to protect Ukraine because we don't like to go to war anymore, which I never thought was like Reason for, oh, we're too cowardly or we're afraid, or we leave our men.
We now leave our men on the battlefield as we did in large numbers under Biden, or we don't keep our word at all, whatever.
But I mean, the reality is Putin may be hateful and horrible and terrible, and the Ukrainians may be good people.
But the Ukrainian government, aside from the homicidal addition to the Russian government, which is a big one, is essentially as corrupt as the Russian government.
I mean, it's a question of per capita, right?
As a very brilliant political thinker said, Russia is a big country and Ukraine is a small country.
So if you adjust for Russia is a big country and Ukraine is a small country, then it's about equal.
They're both very, very corrupt.
And from the very beginning, although it's confused a hell of a lot of people that can't concentrate beyond the 30 seconds of an Instagram clip, right?
I am a big supporter of Ukraine.
I am a very, very strong opponent of Zelensky because I personally know that Zelensky is crooked.
And I still don't see anything in here when they're now going after him with the most obvious reason why you don't have to scratch your head as to whether he's corrupt or not.
It just stands to reason that he's corrupt because we all know he is sitting on a treasure trove of criminal information involving the highest levels of his government and our government.
The president that preceded him, Poroshenko, was defeated not because he was a particularly impressive candidate.
He was a silly comedian who had a tremendous amount of crooked money behind him, running against a guy who was probably the most, in terms of taking money, the most prolific president in the history of Ukraine.
And that says a lot.
The last guy walked out with the entire treasury.
So now, if that's true, every Ukrainian knows it, that's why they voted for him 7030.
Why have none of those people under the Poroshenko government that were known to everybody in Ukraine to be corrupt, why were none of them prosecuted?
And why hasn't Poroshenko been prosecuted?
Poroshenko was, if you talk to people on the street in Ukraine while he was president, they knew he was stealing.
And I was told by two or three of the most powerful people in Ukraine, some legit and some probably not, that Poroshenko was an embarrassment even to them.
He couldn't keep out of any deal.
One of them described him like the character in the godfather who used to say, I have to put my beak in every deal.
So if you had a, if two companies had a crooked deal going on and they were going to get, they're going to pay two of the ministers kickback money.
In the past, the ministers got to keep that money.
Poroshenko had made it like he was the godfather of an organized crime family.
I got to get my peace.
Where's my peace?
I need a peace.
And the piece that he wanted out of Barisma was massive because Barisma had pulled somewhere between $35 and $40 billion out of the economy of Ukraine and stashed it away in banks, laundered it in banks all over the world.
That laundering was done by Zelensky's patron, Karl Moisky.
So I'm bothering you with a lot of names.
Here's what you can take from it.
The guy knows all the corruption.
And if he doesn't know, it all has to do with open the files right in the office, right in the office below him.
I've been there.
I could take them and show them where they are.
I never got to look at all of them.
And if I looked at them, I couldn't understand it because I don't read Ukrainian, but I had some of them translated for me.
They also would nail Biden, the drug addict, and a couple of their associates right to the wall with proof that, oh, it's no stronger than what we have already.
They're just repeated.
Except it will take the money up quite a bit and might add some, might give an answer to the offshore accounts, which there are people in Ukraine have been crying out they can take the FBI to.
But to this day, the FBI hasn't responded to that.
I don't think they have.
They certainly hadn't by the time Trump came into office.
And by this time, they could have gotten the money already or put the information out.
So is Zelensky involved in this scheme?
This is what I've been telling you was going on all along, which is why we have no idea how much money was really of the money we gave them, we have no idea how much got to the field, which may account for why Russia has as much of Ukraine as it has.
Let's assume that all the money got to, look at what Ukraine's been able to do with whatever they got, right?
They were able to stop what purports to be the third or fourth biggest military in the world from taking over their entire country.
Iraq couldn't do that when we went into Iraq.
And they've been able to hold them back to 20, 22%.
And Putin has lost, some people say a million men.
I'd say about six, 700,000.
That's a lot to lose.
So imagine if they had all the money that was supposed to go to them and not the massive amount taken away by Zelensky and all the people he turned his back on or participated with.
It's one or the other.
And his partner in business was one of the main people.
The guy's run away, by the way.
Timur Minchik was his partner in the studio that ran this big hit.
They don't bother to mention it because they go soft on Zelensky.
They don't bother to mention that they also lived in the same apartment building where the cash was brought to.
That's awfully convenient for Zelensky, where the cash was brought to Mindik.
And one of the things the detectives pointed out, detectives have created this, they call it the golden tub or something.
He has a golden bathroom.
but that's typical of these guys they're very very ostentatious and very they they wear their that seems dumb but they wear their corruption on the sleeve It's the reason I knew that the Bidens were lying.
Well, I mean, I know the Bidens are lying all the time.
The question is, when did the Bidens tell the truth?
That'd be a little small book.
And about four or five times, right?
Not even about going to college or stuff like that.
But I knew they were not telling the truth and trying to make the prosecutor who dropped the case because Biden bribed the president of Ukraine that he was corrupt.
I knew that wasn't true because the guy was trying to run a shitty little car.
He had old clothes and he didn't have like all kinds of jewelry coming.
These guys, these guys walk around and they want to be the crookedest person in Ukraine.
I want to be the guy who's stealing the most.
Like you're a mensch, if that's true.
So they've got a completely distorted sense of morality.
They're trying to change it.
If they're going to change it, you're going to have to get Zelensky.
And boy, if they could get Zelensky, settle this war with Russia without getting horribly destroyed, which they shouldn't get horribly destroyed.
They don't deserve it.
This could be a really good country.
And a country that is very much like America.
The people are.
The people are wonderful people.
You see the Ukrainians that come to the United States.
They're just like everybody else, just like the Poles, just like the Italians, just like everybody else.
They're people who grew up religious.
They grew up educated.
They grew up much more with the influence of Western civilization, which they're dying for.
They want to escape the Russian influence.
They've wanted to be Western forever.
My gosh, the Russians wanted to be Western.
That's why Peter the Great is called Peter the Great, because he westernized Russia.
Bet you didn't know that.
And I bet Putin won't admit it.
But why the heck does St. Petersburg look like Paris?
Maybe someday I'll have a debate with Putin over this, over this, where did Christianity begin in, did Christianity be with the Ukrainians or the Russians?
And this is the reason why the Russians, this is before Putin, but it built into their history.
This is why the Russians want to subjugate the Ukrainians, make them part of Russia.
Because Christianity began in Kiev Rus.
Kiev Rus is modern Kiev.
And the people that lived there were, among others, a people called the Rus, along with three or four other different types of people.
Eventually, there was a movement toward Moscow.
And then they established another colony, city, or if you want to call it a Moscow.
And the people that stayed behind in Ukraine assumed that they were their own nationality and they were the key to the country.
And it goes to Moscow.
Moscow eventually battles between them, Moscow becomes more powerful.
But the Ukrainians always try to maintain their own identity as Ukrainians and say that Christianity began in Ukraine.
Russia at that time wants Ukraine, not because it's wealthy.
They didn't do anything.
It was wealthy in religious symbolism.
It was wealthy in, this is where they became civilized, Christians, because they regarded that as having become civilized.
Well, it was.
They gave up pagan gods and, I don't know, all the stuff they used to do.
And that's the key to the battle.
But yeah, Ukrainians have a right to their own identity because they started it all.
Sorry.
You know, Putin, generally mass murderers don't make good theologians.
I generally found that.
Or particularly honest historians.
And that's and that's what he claims the war is about.
Of course, that's also a lie.
The war is about his having wanting power, his having, he couldn't have more money than he has.
He's the richest man, maybe in Eastern Europe.
And he couldn't have many more women because he's probably too old now.
But this is his legacy.
He wants to, I think if he really had a choice, he'd be a czar rather than a communist leader.
I think in his head is the Russian empire.
And I don't think he has as great an interest beyond the countries that were part of the empire of Catherine the Great and Peter the Great.
But that from having read him and watched him and looked at him.
And I don't know why we don't just really lay it down on him.
Not piecemeal, but really just let him have it.
Just cut him off from everything he can possibly trade, get, do.
We're close to that.
We got him down about 50, 60, 70%.
And the people of Russia, people of Russia will overthrow you if they're starving.
We found that out, didn't we?
It's a hell of a way to have to do it.
But it's also a great way to save the world.
Well, Epstein now, everything's going to come out.
We're going to get a bunch of, as far as I look, I could be wrong.
I don't really know what's in there except what I read.
But from what I can tell, and from what I can tell about the reluctance to release it, which everybody thinks is because somebody's name in it, I think the reluctance to release it is because there are so many names and so little description.
So there's so many names.
And they don't, I don't think they have the little black book.
By that I mean, and there may have been one.
I don't know.
They don't have the discrete log that has the Epstein pedophile customers.
They just got a lot of people and a lot of people that were doing business with him in his finance business because it was highly successful.
Was it highly successful because he compromised these people and they were required to do business with him?
Was he, he was never really known, except for the fact that he had a lot of customers and a lot of money.
He was never really known as a financial genius of Wall Street.
As far as I can tell, there aren't, I don't think there are books by him on finance or I don't think people turn to him from the government for advice.
They turn to him from Democrat governments for money.
He was a major, major player in the Democratic Party and no player in the Republican Party.
So how they can twist this around to Trump when we have the additional history of Trump throwing him out of Mar-a-Laco and the lady who was the victim saying Trump never did anything wrong.
It's only the power of this corrupt press and corrupt Democratic Party that Trump even is suspected in some way here, which I think the only benefit of the last couple of weeks, it kind of definitively has proven that Trump is not involved.
And I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I'm not going to predict what we're going to have to undergo now, but I have a feeling it's going to be terrible.
And it's not going to be terrible for Republicans.
I really doubt it.
I really, really, and if there are a couple of Republican bums that are involved in there, I mean, I got a couple, I wouldn't mind if they weren't going to just get rid of them.
Wow.
We got some real creeps.
What about this guy now?
That's the story that Allison was telling us.
Right.
You know this congressman?
Yes.
Yeah.
Reminds me.
Do I know him?
Corey Mills.
I know the name.
Yeah.
He's.
I don't know many congressmen because I never thought that they meant much.
Yes.
Except they're the.
Oh, except I never would have said that during the peace rate.
What's that?
Oh, congressmen are very important.
Well, Nancy Mace is.
Get out of my seat.
Nancy Mace announced today that she would seek to censure Republican colleague Corey Mills and kick him off his House committees.
Knowing Nancy Mace, I thought maybe she had to kick him in the ass.
Right.
And this, so this censure, this resolution, what Mace would remove Mills from the House Armed Services.
We know he screwed around with the Epstein things.
He took money?
That's what I understand.
Why don't we put him in jail then instead of taking him out of his seat?
Mace's resolution to censure Mills.
There's a couple congressmen in jail for taking money.
You can do that.
Did they want me to show him how to put him in jail?
Mace's, well, her resolution to censure Mills points to individuals who served with Mills in the Army and dispute his version of events that led him to be recommended for the Bronze Star.
Oh my gosh, he's like John Kerry.
She argues that Mills' conduct brings discredit upon the House.
Well, as if that Congress happened before.
Yeah, like you're taking a pristine, as if they're taking a pristine reputation.
No, no, no, no.
If they take this one through, putting him in jail, it might bring you.
Yeah.
So what?
If he deserves to go.
First off, maybe it's not even true.
I mean, you got to do it.
The question is, was this concocted?
Well, was this concocted behind closed doors to protect Mills?
Did Republicans have a few members take a dive on the vote, right?
Vote not to censure Plaskett in exchange for saving Mills.
Well, that's what they're, I think that's what they're suggesting, right?
But it didn't appear to work.
Yeah, they couldn't get enough votes, but they got some.
Right.
No, well, Plaskett was not censured.
It failed.
The resolution to censure Plaskett failed after the vote last night.
And despite that happening, they still are bringing up Mills censoring Mills.
So we'll see where that's at.
So you're saying it's not logical as a quid pro quo.
Right?
Because if well, because Mills didn't deliver.
Mills, if the price, but what was the quid pro quo?
Was the price of Mills getting it to the floor and getting it voted on, because the Democrats wanted it voted on and he was going to cave and therefore they weren't going to.
That's my.
We don't know enough about this Ted, to know what the quid and the quo was.
House Democrats responded Tuesday to Republican effort to censure Plaskett and remove her from the intelligence committee by reviving a censure measure against Corey Mills.
What Allison had brought up and you know I want to defer to Allison on this is the idea that there was a deal behind closed doors.
Yeah, it's hard to know what the nature of the deal was right, but the end result is the names came out and if the price of Mills was the names wouldn't come out right, then once the names came out, they wouldn't have kept their deal with him not to censure him yes, or was the price the names had to come out yeah,
and then they refused to censure him.
Well, we'll have to find out if you, if you go to x by the time we're finished on x, maybe we'll know the answer.
But tonight I want you to go to Dr Maria's show as soon as we're finished, because I, I want, I want you to see, I want you to see all of her stories.
They're all very good, but particularly uh, the one about Minaj, uh the the who.
I really didn't know what she did.
Uh, I knew the name because it's a strange, you know, it's an Nikki Minaj is a strange name.
But I didn't know if she was a singer or a striptease artist or an actress or, but she's now a hero to me in having gone before the UN and argued for the Christians that are being killed by jihad in Nigeria.
And the reason they cover it up is largely because, and they give all these excuses like it's the herdsmen and this and that.
They're after the cows because they won't face jihad.
Nobody wants to face what the Muslim religion really is.
There's been a problem for hundreds of years, you know.
There's a euphemism about the Muslim religion in which people play into its ability to survive and thrive and keep rejuvenating its maniacal idea of taking over the world because nobody faces what the hell they really are.
Well, Nikki certainly did in Nigeria.
So, but you'll see that on Dr. Maria a little later.
It's a very, very interesting story.
And now if you go to X, you'll see us talk about how this particular former prosecutor, U.S. attorney, and investigator is extremely upset about the failure to really investigate the attempted assassinations of our president before he became president, because they're giving every indication that there's a lot more there in the way the FBI is handling it, even now.
So you go to X and then Dr. Maria at 9.
Meanwhile, let's all say it together.
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