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Nov. 15, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show: Friday, November 14, 2025
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out of thousands of emails that implicate a lot of people, but not Trump.
And to put it out and have Epstein say that he doesn't describe exactly what's going on or whatever, but he says that Trump was spending a lot of time with this girl.
He says this to Maxwell in the email.
And the girl's name is there.
And the Democrats, when they put it out so that nobody will pay attention, the rest of the emails that are put out, or nobody would pay attention to the big victory that Trump had the night before in which they caved completely and had to basically kiss his shoes in order to get the continuing resolution.
They covered it over.
Now, you've got to be like a dedicated deceiver and liar to do that.
There's the name, Virginia Jufri, and you do this, not to protect her privacy.
She's probably talked about this case and written a book about it.
And she's dead.
As a legal matter, dead people have no privacy.
As a moral matter, they have no privacy.
If they talked about it a lot, but they cross it out because she did talk about it a lot.
And every single thing she said, from comments to the press, comments to her co-writer, comments on television, and most importantly, under oath, when she was asked a question, well, when did President Trump flirt with you?
He never did.
And she goes on to make clear he was always perfectly appropriate with her and kind to her.
And she did that any number of times.
And she certainly wasn't reluctant when she talked about Prince Andrew or the people who did violate her or Epstein or Maxwell.
So they want the Democrats, just think of this, the Democrats who now for weeks have wanted to release the files, the Epstein files, they wanted you to believe that Epstein was telling the truth about that, that he spent a lot of time with this girl.
And the girl, before she died, in at least five places indicated that she had no relationship of that kind with Trump and that it was just false.
And there's not a single thing in the world that indicates she's not telling the truth about that.
Not a thing.
So why do they do this?
This is like the phony, the million one through Perkins Cooley law firm to just make up that he peed on the bed.
That never happened.
Or that Michael Cohen was in Prague when it turned out there's definitive records that he was in Los Angeles, California.
Not only that, he didn't have a passport entry to go to Prague.
And they're so sloppy they never checked.
And Comey lied under oath about that.
Why do they keep doing this?
And how do they keep getting away with it, Ted?
And what else?
I mean, I just, you know, so I, I mean, people say, well, you're really going to have to deal with this one for the next election.
It's over.
I mean, this one, we can bat this into the ground every day between now and the elections, now and whenever.
However, before we get to the elections a year from now, there'll be at least two or three more of these.
And As I check, as I've indicated to him when I talk to him now every time, and when we pray for him, be careful.
I think you know what I mean by that.
Be careful.
They have tried everything under the sun, despicable, immoral, lying, cheating, paying money, bribing, to stop you or get you out of office.
So let's keep investigating those two murder attempts, huh?
I don't know that we have to once again go through the unequivocal denial of Jufrey.
Do we?
But do we want to indicate the, I think we're beating, I don't want to say a dead horse because horses are too nice to compare to Democrats.
I don't want to belabor a point.
That's a better way to say it.
But do you know that the other night in the middle of everything, Congressman Briquette, who's on my show often, on Dr. Maria's show often, Tim, he's very, very articulate, very humorous, and very smart.
He immediately stood up as soon as the vote, I don't remember if it was before the vote or after the vote, he stood up and he asked for the ability with unanimous consent, because it wasn't on the agenda, to bring up the bill that would release all of the Epstein files.
And he had, he thinks, because actually it was like he did it almost as an instinctual thing, but he checked with everybody critical that he couldn't.
He thought he had enough votes to do it, even if the Democrats didn't join him.
But here was the problem, Ted.
He had to get unanimous consent.
And the Democrats walked out.
Now, haven't they been saying they want the files out?
So the Democrats could have had the files out the night the president signed the continuing resolution.
They all would be out now.
I mean, I don't see why they don't.
They already tried their trick on Trump and it doesn't work.
The main victim says Trump didn't do anything.
You know there's nothing in the files because the Biden administration had it for four years.
It was available to the most disreputable, the most unethical, according to Supreme Court, prosecutor in Justice Department history, Jack Smith.
He never did anything with it.
You think if there was a stitch of evidence that Trump did anything there, even something like he didn't pay for something, and then they could hook in Epstein to dirty him up, you don't think they would have done it?
This is the biggest jerk.
You know the rest of it.
We know the rest of it.
This one really, really insults your intelligence.
And they complete doing that.
So we have Representative Tim Burchett.
He explained his effort to call for a vote in CUT 2.5.
Hey, everybody.
Tim Burchett in Washington, D.C. today.
Of course, trying to open up the government, but I tried to make them release the Epstein files, and I was blocked by the Democrats.
This is all gamesmanship, folks.
It's not about releasing the files.
If they had something on Trump, they would have released it.
Biden had it for four years, and they hate Trump more than anything in the world.
And so now they blocked it.
And so they can piecemeal the truth and the half-truths, both sides of what really went down with Epstein.
And it's kind of disgusting, really.
I tried.
I wish we could have had it.
I reached out to this person, but Tim, not available time.
We call on very late notice.
But I'd like to ask, I'd like to enter into your evidence, Your Honor, if I may.
Juliana is exhibit number one.
Shall we put it up on the board while I go on to another subject?
Okay.
So they won't release the files, right?
Right.
Now, here's a couple of little things that came out of this.
So they block a vote on what they've been asking for a vote on forever.
But when they get caught completely lying, a major lie, they won't support it.
It's like calling their bluff, right?
It's like calling a shyster, calling their bluff.
Now, it looks as if Lucas is one of the people that's going to have to be questioned very, very carefully.
It's one of the people closest to Obama and Biden.
And he's asking for advice because he's getting jealous that she may be going with somebody else.
And she still wants him to pay money.
She says, Leco, you are, Summers complained.
And then I said, Did you really rearrange the weekend we were going to be together because guy number three was coming?
She said, no, his schedule changed after we changed our plans.
I said, okay, I got to go call me when you feel like it.
Tone was not one of a good feeling, says our Treasury Secretary of the United States.
I didn't want to be in gift competition with him while being, at this point, a friend without benefits.
You know what that means, right?
They weren't having sex at this point.
She's smart, Epstein says.
Making you pay for past errors, ignore the daddy, I'm going to go out with the motorcycle guy.
You reacted well.
Annoyed shows caring.
No whining showed strength.
There are a lot more of these sick communications between the major pedophile of at least the last 50 years and one of the highest officials in the Clinton Democrat administration and the Obama Democrat administration.
Epstein, this was March 16 of 2019.
Epstein was dead by August 10, 2019.
This is when Epstein was persona engrada.
He's still hanging around with him as his chief dear Abbey, more than dear Abbey, his advisor on how to get around women.
No indication of how old the woman was.
No indication of originally supplied by Epstein.
But he was aware of other guys that were with her.
I guess that could happen.
I mean, I guess.
I mean, it sounds like this was an Epstein produced, whatever you would call it, for him.
and epstein seems to know all about the prior relationship then there's then there's another one where um there's some woman they're going back and forth about and epstein says she's already beginning to sound nice hmm Nice, nice.
So, I mean, We only care for this reason.
Somehow they want to take this and twist it through lies and put it on Donald Trump, who in this regard had nothing to do with him.
And it is provable.
You can prove a negative here because you have Jeffrey's statement.
And you've got statements from many others too.
She was even asked, I never saw him on the island.
I never saw him at the apartment in New York.
I never saw him with any of the girls.
Now, had the president gone to the apartment in New York, I knew he would have talked about it because he couldn't have missed this picture.
Let's take a look.
I mean, tell me if Trump had seen that picture, if we wouldn't have heard about it.
I know Donald Trump for 35 years.
No way he wouldn't have told me about it.
You know, Epstein lived about six blocks from me, right?
I don't know him.
Never saw him.
He didn't walk his dog, I don't think.
But this picture is sitting right out, smack in his $20, $30 million little narrow apartment, because that's what they have here.
There he is.
Do you recognize him?
Was that done, Ted, when he was president of the United States?
Did he dress up like that?
Do we know?
We don't know.
Let me find out.
Well, in any event, why is the press asking no questions about Clinton?
He was with him.
He was with him many, many more times.
You know, when she says he was never on the plane with that Trump was never on the plane with Epstein?
The lady there was.
She was on the plane with him.
She was at the apartment.
That's where that was.
I think it's a photograph, not a painting, isn't it?
Or is it a painting?
I don't know.
I can't tell.
But in any event.
When was that painted?
The guy, the highest-ranking guy that spent the most time with him.
We haven't heard a question about him.
And I don't know.
It's probably okay if the Republicans don't make a big deal out of it either.
Why should we become like them?
I know there are a lot of you that would disagree, and I might disagree with myself occasionally.
I don't always agree with myself.
Do you?
So Larry Summers, look, I don't want to cause trouble for you, Larry, but you did indicate in one of your communications with Epstein that Trump was very stupid.
You did say that.
Well, of course, that would be the bias of a guy that was the head of an anti-Semitic university that has a lot of students that can't do fifth grade math.
Because that's what you get now, right?
Yeah.
Summers on February 8, 2017 says, Trump has not one decent cell in his body.
Can you imagine saying that to Epstein?
That Trump has no decent cell in his body?
I mean, these guys spend their entire lives projecting.
Yeah, they do.
Now we got the other guy who really is a slime ball, Wolf.
Wolf has written books that are so untrue, you can't even begin to take them apart.
I'm glad that the last one he put out, it's been out now about five, six, seven, eight months.
I won't even tell you the name of it.
It sold only 12,000-something copies.
But this little slime ball has made a fortune.
He's made a fortune.
So if you look at his emails, he's trying to get Epstein to frame Trump.
And he's basically saying, you know, you can get him either way.
You can falsely accuse him on the one hand, or you can later say that, you know, you prevented people from getting you to lie about him if he becomes president.
Ted, when was he?
Remember the first prosecution of him with Acosta?
Remember that?
Yeah.
What was the date of his conviction there?
I'm getting that right now as we speak.
2000.
June 2008.
Epstein pleaded guilty to two state charges.
And is it 14 months?
Am I right about that?
He served 13 months in county jail with a work release agreement that allowed him to leave the jail for up to 16 hours a day, six days a week.
While he was serving the month, the 13 months or after while he was serving the 13 months?
He didn't serve anything.
16 hours a day.
Wait a second.
He could leave the jail for 16 hours a day.
I guess he doesn't need much sleep, huh?
I mean, I guess he could sleep during the 16 hours outside of the jail if he needed more than the eight hours.
You think when he was out of the jail, he went to bedrooms six days a week.
That means one day a week he was there.
Oh, man.
Man.
Trump gave evidence during that case.
Trump, Dr. Maria is informing me that Trump gave evidence against him in that case.
Now, I'm going to tell you that I have known this story.
Both parts of it, the dispute over land, which did not lead to the breakup, it led to bad feelings.
And I think it led to bad feelings more on Epstein's part than Trump, because Epstein's one of lost.
He lost a bid for a home.
I think I know what home it is, but I'm not going to say because I happen to know the person who lives in it.
But the reality is that the proximate cause of Trump just kicking him out is two people coming to him, both from the same place that Maxwell and Drew Free had at some point worked, right?
And telling him that Epstein was a monster, that he was creating and wasn't just the one woman who came up to tell him was kind of a new employee, and the other was a seasoned employee.
And she said, you can go tell this to Mr. Trump.
He'll be fine.
And they were worried that he would side with Epstein because Epstein, they thought, you know, was a member.
I don't know if they had had, they had already had the dispute about the property, but that wasn't very well known.
Certainly wouldn't have been known to the staff.
And immediately, and there are contemporaneous accounts of this, immediately upon hearing that this guy was hitting on and causing trouble for his employees.
You have no idea how loyal Trump is to his employees that are honest and working hard.
He said, okay, watch.
Stay there.
Stay there.
You could see him doing it.
Maybe you're doing an attention.
Stay there.
Stay there.
Right.
Hand me that Epstein guy.
Oh, he's not.
Let me leave him a message.
Epstein, we took all your stuff from the golf course in the locker.
It's going to be at the security desk.
Pick it up.
If you don't, at some point we'll throw it away.
But don't you dare come in and don't you dare come into Mar-a-Lago.
Both are canceled, void, and I have the unilateral power to do it.
So I won't use the rest of the language.
Hung up.
Don't know if he ever talked to him again after that.
If he did, it would have been perfunctory.
That was the end of it.
That's before that's while the Secretary of the Treasury was seeking advice about how to get around women from Epstein, women that Epstein seemed to have known very, very well.
While he worked in a very, very close relationship with Bill Clinton, where there's a big dispute.
The witnesses say that he was on the plane over 27 times.
He kind of says through this one and that one that he never was on the plane.
But he doesn't answer questions about this the way Trump does.
Trump does it openly, right?
From the very beginning, Trump has explained all these things.
Clinton, I don't think I've heard Clinton himself talk about this.
I have this point about it.
You're right.
And the people hanging around this.
Now, Michael Wolf.
How about this?
They're going to have to recuse themselves.
Don't you think they should recuse themselves?
A New York Times finance reporter tipped off Epstein in the spring of 2016 that a former NYPD detective was digging around on the convicted pedophile.
That was Landon Thomas Jr.
He gave the disgraced financier a heads up after being contacted by ex-cop turn reporter John Connolly about the tone which became filthy rich.
That's right in the emails.
Keep getting calls from that guy doing a book on you, John Connolly.
He seems very interested in your relationship with the news media.
I told him you were a hell of a guy.
New York Times, hell of a guy.
I think I just think they have who knows who knows what was going on there.
Don't you think they should be recused?
I actually think the best thing would be if they were recused from everything.
Now, who is this Stacey Plaskett woman?
So Stacey Plaskett.
Who is giving suggestions of things for Michael Cohen to say about Epstein?
It's in the Epstein files.
That's right.
And she's a Congresswoman.
And this was when Michael Cohen was lying his backside off.
That's right.
Epstein appeared to be texting.
She's still in Congress.
She still is.
She's still chewing gum.
And she's still chewing gum.
And that reference that you see in the B-roll there, she's chewing.
That's actually something Epstein references in his text with her.
So aren't I observing?
Yeah.
She's chewing gum.
But she's not actually.
That's a habit she started.
And I guess.
Well, what is it she's chewing?
Tell me she's chewing tobacco.
In this video, she's making the point that Democrats can walk and shoot gum at the same time.
But the point here is that the newly released document from Epstein's estate.
This is really very helpful.
This would say, oh, she's very intelligent.
But the new documents reveal that Epstein appeared to be texting with a member of Congress during a congressional hearing with Michael Cohen, who, of course, is President Trump's former senator.
He's testified and lied so badly that he got thrown out as a witness permanently by the Southern District of New York.
That's right.
So this is Stacey Plaskett.
I contemporaneously listened to that, and I had developed four provable lies on him before the testimony was over.
Right.
So Plaskett, Epstein was texting Plaskett during the hearing, and the Washington Post is reporting that in those texts, Epstein appeared to be watching the February 2019 hearing in real time and at one point informed the person he was texting that Cohen had brought up former Trump executive assistant Ronna Graff in his testimony.
Rona.
Rona Graff.
At the time, Cohen was testifying before the House Oversight Committee against his former boss, the president.
Alleging at the time that President Trump was racist.
About he never raised a pardon with me.
Oh, actually, raising that he was never told that he wouldn't get a part, that he wasn't going to get a pardon.
And I had documentary evidence that he lied about that four or five times.
Or how about the best one of all?
Saying that he was not interested in any position in the Trump administration after the election and never has for one.
And then we produced by the evening news an interview with Chris Cuomo three or four days after the election, which he announced that he wanted to be and was going to be the chief of staff.
I mean, I could direct contradiction.
We had him saying, I never asked for a position.
I never asked for a position in the Trump.
I wouldn't be in the position in the Trump administration.
Oh, congratulations, says Chris Cuomo.
I understand you're going to be the next chief of staff.
Yes, yes.
The boss has indicated that to me when I asked, yes.
One against the other.
Never prosecuted him for perjury.
The Congress sent over six definitive statements like that that were perjurious.
And the crooked Biden Justice Department with the most crooked attorney general in our history declined prosecution.
Southern District, realizing that he would ruin any case, just got rid of him as a witness and labeled him, as it's done for the benefit of other prosecutors, as somebody you just can't trust.
But of course, the Biden people then used the New York crooks to use him.
Right.
Because New York is more corrupt than anything.
The New York judges are more corrupt and Gamoran and the guy with the daughter who made millions from the Biden and Gamora and Kamala Harris campaign.
That's not a conflict of interest.
No, actually, it isn't.
It's just straight out corrupt.
Right.
So during that, so during the hearing, Epstein is texting this congresswoman while Cohen is discussing President Trump, not discussing him, but like you mentioned, Mayor, lying.
Where is she from?
She is from the U.S. Virgin Islands.
So she's a non-voting member of Congress.
And Epstein is texting her.
Cohen, quote, Cohen brought up Rana, keeper of the secrets.
Epstein is texting this person, and this person responds, Rana, quick, I'm up next.
Is that an acronym?
Because Epstein had texted her, R-O-N-A, which is a misspelling of her name.
And Epstein replies, that's his assistant.
So we'll put, you know, we'll go through this.
I'm sure you're going to find, look, we've only had it for a day.
The point being, the Democrats come out with all this, you know, trying to smear Trump over this whole Epstein business.
Meanwhile, we're seeing more and more Democrats or Democrat-affiliated reporters working directly with Epstein, communicating with him, warning him about what's happening at these news outlets, right?
These reporters, or this is a literal Democrat member of Congress working in tandem with Epstein.
Epstein is influencing her questions in real time during a congressional hearing.
That's what we're talking about.
That's what's happening here.
Anybody ever asked Bill Barr, who was the attorney general who made the first decision that Epstein actually killed himself, why he decided to change his mind.
And during his confirmation hearings, he indicated that he'd recuse himself from the Epstein case because his father had a relationship with Epstein.
His father hired Epstein to be a teacher of children.
No teaching degree, no math.
With no teaching degree, with no master's degree, with no particular expertise in math.
Lucky it wasn't, you know, teaching gender and sex and stuff like that.
Right.
So he was not going to involve himself in it.
And then he involved some big time and made a very big, sanctimonious pronouncement that everything was perfect about his jail situation.
Right.
And his jail situation was as screwed up as the attempted first murder of Trump.
Right.
Everything went wrong.
I mean, they took the guy out of Suicide Watch.
He had already made an attempted suicide.
Originally, they'd put him in with a murderer.
Yeah.
I mean, hoping that that guy would do it for them, I guess.
They put him in a cell with a murderer.
He got out of the cell with the murderer.
And then they put him in a hospital because he was very, he was suicidal and getting depressed.
And then they took him out and they put him in a cell where he wasn't particularly secure.
But here's the really part that's totally not credible.
All the cameras went out.
Now, when the cameras go out in a prison, there's a guy that's looking at the television sets.
Those cameras aren't there for show.
Those cameras are producing images on something like that back there.
See?
And if you've ever seen an apartment building, right?
The security guy.
I used to put these things in.
The security guy is sitting there.
The cameras are going out.
Oh my God, there's no camera in the most important cell right now in this prison.
I know that prison.
I actually literally watched it get built.
And I put my own prisoners in there, and nobody ever put their hands on my prisoners.
And I had some that were suicidal, but I wouldn't let them commit suicide because I was going to get them to rat.
And I don't know, I had to have it.
It had to be alive if I was going to get them to testify against the mafia, right?
Or against Boski and people like that.
Or against crooked politicians or half of Conscious administration.
I've handled so many informants.
One side calls them informants.
Other people call them rats.
All kinds of stuff attached to it.
But there sure are a lot of reasons in the kind of cases that I was doing that people are going to kill them.
I put political cases in that category.
A lot of stake here.
But nobody's ever asked Barr, why'd you change your mind about accusing yourself?
Was it pretty good reason to recuse yourself?
At least you indicated you had a reason to do it.
Well, in any event, we can take a short break and we'll be right back.
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There was another disturbing indictment involving sports and sports gambling, this time in New Jersey, brought by the New Jersey Attorney General, Matthew J. Platkin.
It was 14 people.
They were involved in basketball.
I think college basketball, which was the big scandal of the 1950s. that changed basketball in New York forever involved basketball.
And really the sport where I've always thought it was kind of the easiest because of the point spread thing to fix a game, right?
And also the betting back then, I don't think, I don't think, but I'm not an expert in history of gambling.
I don't think back in the 50s, they had these point spread bets.
And what do they call this?
PAR bets?
What do they call a bet where you have an over and under on a player?
What do they call that bet?
They had to have a name for it.
Like the ones they had.
A prop bet.
A what?
A prop bet.
A bet, a proposition bet.
Okay.
The proposition bets are just an invitation.
And we were watching, we won't tell you what, something within the last several days.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
And we all of a sudden were very suspicious because a mistake was made by a key player.
At a key time.
At a critical time that would change the, not just the spread.
The spread.
Which you asked.
And when the guy did it, your first instinct was, it looks like he looks like he did that on purpose.
And what was your first question?
Check the spread.
And what was your answer?
It affected the spread.
The spread was 12 and a half.
Right.
The team was only up by, you know, the team.
The spread was 12 and a half.
The lead was only 10.
And again.
And if the other team would have got a field goal, they'd be up by 13.
They'd cover this cover.
That's exactly what happened.
And this fumble took place right in virtually, you know.
Fourth quarter.
You might as well kick the field goal for them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they covered the spread because of that.
Now, I don't.
It is very, that's happened in football all the time.
The plays here, there were other plays that seemed bad, other plays that seemed inconsistent.
I'll say that.
And none of them were as obvious as the pictures.
No, no, no.
Those pitches are like.
The pitches were ridiculous.
I mean, the pitches were.
You don't last in the pros doing that.
I, I, I, you.
I. You don't last on a good little league team.
But New Jersey ended this indictment.
That's the mob, the mob again.
The Lucasey crime family.
And the guy is Joe Perner.
He was like the godfather, the main guy, his son, really, his son, also named Joe Perna, actually ran it.
Sounds like the wife and the ex-wife also had big roles in it.
And member and associates of the Lucase crime family were running a sophisticated sports betting operation.
But also say it was the Perna family.
The wife and the daughter and the daughter-in-law or ex-daughter-in-law certainly wouldn't be members of the Lucase crime family unless they've changed their rules, right?
And we don't know if the kid is a member of the case, but Perna is, for sure.
And this began, this actually began.
They began an investigation in January of 2024.
So it's been going on, been going on quite some time, right?
And they have numerous, numerous transactions.
Here's what here's what raises a little question in my mind.
If they have that many transactions, the amount of money in suspected gamblings is $2 million.
Wow.
That's a really small time operation.
I mean, these guys in the Lucase family, I think, are going to be embarrassed that this was.
I mean, this is a $2 million gambling operation.
Right.
I mean, back in the 70s when I did gambling cases, little old ladies were handling $10 million gambling operation, numbers operation.
I mean, 75-year-old grandmothers were handling it.
And Joe Perner, 25, is doing a $2 million gambling operation.
You know, this money's got to get whacked up.
Family's got to take a big piece of it as my well, I mean, it'd be really interesting if you went to my podcast and listened to Michael Francisi, and he'll tell you how the Colombo family was taking an enormous amount of his oil importation crime where he was.
Basically, what they were doing is they were escaping all kinds of duties and everything.
I'm bringing in Russian oil.
And he was, I think I have this right, but you can go check with my podcast.
I think Michael said he was producing 2 million a month for the family.
So these guys, in the entire time they did this, ended up with 2 million.
And that's not what they produced in gambling transactions.
I don't know.
Now it's spread out to Rhode Island and Gainesville, Florida.
You got a bunch of names here that are not Italian, which, yeah, that'd be true.
I mean, the gambling operations pretty soon, the mafia started working with a lot of other people on it because he can spread it out better.
So it's not one of those things where they require that the family gambling is not serious enough, or they don't view it as serious enough.
So that you're going to take all the precautions that you would take if you were doing an extortion operation or a loan sharking operation, or you were moving in on legitimate businesses like they did with the garment industry or Las Vegas.
There, you use your top soldiers.
Now, unless the mafia has seriously changed, well, we're going to do a second interview with Michael about his having straightened out.
We'll ask him about this, if I'm right, that $2 million seems very, very strange.
Very, very strange.
$2 million operation.
And the others, I don't really know exactly who they are.
They're the student athletes and some of the middlemen who were involved in this.
And that could be all they can.
It might be a much bigger operation, and all they can prove is $2 million.
But they do say it was a $2 million operation.
Maybe they just wrote it wrong.
For which, when I was U.S. attorney, if they weren't on my assistance, they'd be in a lot of trouble.
I was a difficult, I think I was a difficult boss.
I was trained that way.
Well, we're going to take a short, we're going to take a break.
We're going to take a short break.
We are going to take a short break.
We're going to go over to X and we're going to tell you about Alina Haba and what happened to her in New Jersey.
And we're also going to cover, we're also going to cover, what's his name?
Swalwell Paul.
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