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Oct. 18, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (780): Curtis Sliwa joins Mayor Rudy Giuliani to Discuss his Campaign for Mayor
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Curtis, come on.
This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is America's mayor live.
We are we are reproducing once again our New York background because we're gonna talk about the New York debate, and also Ted was lazy.
So we've what we should have done.
Tomorrow they're gonna have demonstrations here.
Oh, Ted is so excited.
He got all his equipment.
I gotta take someone with me, though.
I can't be doing this alone.
He heard demonstration.
Yeah.
He was like, oh, he was fine when he came in, he looked good.
Man, he was like in a state of excitement, like you can't believe.
And he's getting out like all kinds of equipment.
I don't know what he uses.
Remember that?
Remember that stupid Fordham girl that he got to say she didn't know why.
She didn't know why she was at the Hamas Raleigh.
Then she asked her friend, did she know?
She didn't know why either.
And these are kids that are like undergraduates at Fordham.
A Jesuit school.
The Jesuits were never that good.
I went to a Christian brother school, considerably better.
The Jesuits make believe.
They're like the Ivy League, you know, they make believe.
Christian brothers actually teach.
What brings you out tonight?
I'm here to support the NYU student protesting for Palestine.
Are you an NYU student?
I'm not, I'm a Fordham student.
Uh, and what would you say is the main goal with tonight's uh protest?
I think the goal is just showing our support for Palestine and demanding that NYU stops.
I honestly don't know all of what NYU's doing.
Is there something that NYU's doing?
I really don't know.
I'm pretty sure they're do you know what NY is doing about Israel.
Why are we protesting here?
Oh, stop!
We'll be free.
I wish I was more educated.
I'm not either.
Oh my god.
I came from Columbia.
I was there all the time.
People thought I set that up.
It seems too like if she had said Manhattan College.
Oh, you would not have let me play it.
It'd have been worse than the Yankees losing, where I often have to be put in under observation for two or three days so I don't give up suicide.
Well, now that we're on this, Mayor, can we play one more short one?
In preparation for tomorrow.
He did so well with that one, yeah, sure.
So what makes Trump a fascist?
Uh...
What?
Uh...
What makes Trump a fascist?
He does things without um, yeah, talk loud.
I don't have my mic on.
I I'm not really doing an intuitive view.
Sorry?
He just doesn't, he just does everything he wants, and you know, not following laws or you know, he was a he's a convicted felon, you know.
That's all I know.
Well, but your your sign says he's a fascist, and I'm just curious what makes him a fascist.
One of the things is that he's trying to control uh the media, right?
Say that again.
He's trying to control the narrative.
Like uh how is he trying to control the media?
Doesn't every president try to control the narrative?
Uh all right.
Well, we won't play any more.
That wasn't the one I wanted to play, but we'll save him for you gotta get to the news.
We're on a tight schedule.
These Ivy League uh products are stupid, moronic, and if you're spending your money in an Ivy League school, you are getting ripped off horribly.
And uh I hope my daughter's not listening, but I'm gonna sue for her tuition back.
My son agrees.
Um he went to Duke a little earlier.
Uh there was a little.
Not I'm not gonna tell you.
He didn't he he'll tell you.
We'll put him on and he'll tell you how they were screwed up too.
The vast majority of universities in this country are left wing, infiltrated by the Marxist professors, the communist professors, and the ones who don't even know they can even spell communism, they just you know act that way because they can be smart.
You gotta you gotta find special schools now that teach them well how how about how about the fact that it's less than half of uh New York students uh who can do adequate reading and arithmetic when they graduate.
But what we have with us is the guy who could fix it.
I'm gonna tell you, he's the only guy who can fix it.
I was convinced of that, you know, for some time.
I got more convinced of it after we talked a little over the phone.
Uh when I interviewed him on my show, I went to I went to Ted and Dr. Maria and said, This guy's ready to be mayor.
Now uh Curtis.
Yes, yes, Rudy.
I don't know if you're gonna win or lose, and I'm praying you're gonna win.
But gonna tell you something.
I hope this means something to you.
I know you work for me tirelessly as mayor to be mayor when I was mayor after I was mayor.
I mean this from the bottom of my heart.
You are ready.
My friend, you completely dominated that debate if they would be fair on the things that were important to people.
You actually explained how to do things.
You showed your complete knowledge of the city.
So if they're doing this crap like, oh, he's just uh uh uh a crime guy.
I I think they buy you as a crime guy, right?
Yeah, you are like they did me.
Uh they never had any idea I could do all the rest of the things, exactly.
So can you?
Well, let me let me make mention and you have studied a lot, my friend.
Yeah, let me make mention that you uh you better uh you had me one better.
You the Christian brothers uh taught you at Lachlan, the Jesuits taught me at Brooklyn.
I'll let that go.
It's a hell of a lot better than uh the Jesuits were better than they are now.
Uh they all were better.
You can't even find a Catholic school now that isn't crazy.
That's true.
You you are a very smart, very well-educated man about life and about New York City, and you are ready, and you're the only hope they have.
Like people say to me, well, if we make Curtis mayor, and he seemed they'll tell me he's the best candidate, but how what's he gonna do with that city council?
I said, Well, whatever he does, it's gonna be a lot better than the other two.
Oh, yeah, and there are a lot of ways.
I mean, uh uh you were very uh frank about your relationship with with with Trump, but you know, if you have ideas that are good for New York, Trump, he doesn't care if he likes you, doesn't like you, doesn't Trump will supported him in a minute.
Yeah, what I what I said, Rudy, in that debate last night, I said, because these two guys were trying to outmatch one another.
No, I'm gonna I'm gonna tough it out with Trump.
I'm gonna tough it out.
First Andrew, and then Joan.
And I said, guys, I'm the toughest guy on this stage.
No, no question about that, Chris.
You're you're gonna lose.
You can't outtough Donald Trump.
First of all, he has all the cards.
He you we need the money from the federal government.
If you're gonna try to get tough with Trump, you're gonna hurt the people of New York City.
You negotiate.
So we had one issue where Trump cuts off the funding for the Northeast Tunnel under the Hudson River, and he cuts off the funding for the extension of the Q-Chain line.
So I ride the subways all the day.
I I know we don't need the extension of the Q chain line, but we need the tunnel.
Oh, we've had for 50 years, right?
Millions of people were transported.
So I would sit down with the president or whoever he delegates that to, and I'd say, well, how about discontinue the extension of the second avenue subway line, which is just a boondoggle, and build that that system that is so necessary to transport all the people up and down the Northeast Corridor from Washington, DC.
I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you something.
The minute you made that proposal, he would meet with you.
That's what he loves to do.
Yeah, you I mean, you just figured out how to appeal to the president.
Now, I had to do that, but I'll tell you the difference.
Uh, they would never have asked me uh what are uh what are you gonna do uh to to placate uh Clinton and how can you ever work with Clinton?
They would never have asked me that, right?
I mean, I had to do everything Clinton wanted.
I and I said, I'll work with him.
Yeah, and I work with him, and we had a perfect relationship because ultimately presidents want accomplishments.
This is not this is not what they claim.
This is a very practical president.
If he can look at that at that uh uh uh rail line and say, man, 50 years from now, Donald Trump and Curtis Lever built that.
You got him.
Well, for instance, Rudy, uh, I'm in one of your old stomping grounds in Bay Ridge, right up near 89th and third.
We have a headquarters here.
And it's not the Bay Ridge uh that it was when you I know that.
I know that.
It's changed, it's become very blue.
And so we're taking it back block by block.
We're we're making a difference.
And there is a railway line here.
In fact, Nadler has talked about it for years.
It's a cargo.
I know.
And that's an idea that the president would go for.
I had a deal with Nadler to do that.
Right.
I did.
And the Democrats wouldn't support it.
Exactly.
But it was about the only thing that Gerald Nadler ever said that made sense.
The line is already here.
It's transported cargo before.
We need that instead of all the truck traffic.
He's 100% right on that.
Curtis, you couldn't have picked a better example.
Yeah.
I I tried to push that through.
I got Clinton to agree to it, and the Democrats killed it.
Yes.
They wanted crap to give away to the bang, you know, bang the drum slowly and uh uh let's give out heroin in Harlem and that kind of stuff was more important.
And then the other thing I revived was the old Jack Kemp when he was secretary of HUD, former congressman, uh former great football star from the Western New York Buffalo, who when he served for Ronald Reagan, he came up with this idea that public housing residents should be able to own their apartment, like a co-op, like a condo.
Obviously, they they don't have the same equity, the same ability.
But even if they're just paying a little bit in, ownership makes the difference.
Do you know our own Republicans killed that idea?
Reagan loved the idea, but the Republicans said no.
The Democrats said, Wow, that's that's a damn good idea.
So I'm just gonna revive that.
You don't have to invent anything new.
Everybody thinks you have to say things that are making me crazy, right?
You just revived fabulous.
I did I did that.
I did that with a big left-wing group.
Uh, even though they were, I don't know, they were pretty close to communists, but they were willing to support it.
My theory was exactly yours.
If you can make somebody an equity owner in something, they begin to understand the economy, right?
You say to them, I'm gonna get you a mortgage for this little house, two bedrooms, whatever, and it's the house gonna cost you 100 grand, and you're gonna put up 10.
We'll put in the other 90.
All of a sudden, a year later, it's worth 150,000, and the guy has like 50,000 in equity.
That he begins to understand how this wonderful system of capitalism is the best way to make poor people rich.
Or poor people class, upper middle class.
And she was coming up the ladder, she hadn't quite become the national figure she became during Barack Obama's time running for office.
Bertha Lewis of Acorn embraced that idea.
I remember it because I was shocked that there was a partnership between you, Rudy, and people like Bertha Lewis, who was saying this makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, but you're like that, Curtis.
You know, I saw that.
The other two guys were pathetic, they were pathetic.
I mean, I'm getting a lot of criticism for this.
They say Curtis has no chance.
You got why are you ruining Cuomo's chance?
I'll tell you what.
First of all, forget Curtis.
Cuomo has no chance.
If you weren't in the race, if you decided to go to Mali, he's gonna lose.
He's got a ceiling.
The ceiling is all the families of the people whose kids he's old people he killed, right?
All the people whose people have been killed because of his crazy criminal laws, and all and all of the people who believe he's like a lying whatever, you know.
So maybe he gets to 35, 40, but there's a ceiling on him.
The only ceiling on you is people don't know you, right?
If they get to know I will tell you this, and so we gotta we gotta get them to know you.
I really think That if if uh Mondami breaks open, it's gonna it won't go to him, it'll go to you.
The question is in your history, desperate people do desperate things, and that's what Andrew Como did earlier this morning on WABC radio with our.
Yeah, he blamed you, Rudy and Pataki, for forcing me to run so that Zandami, uh Zoran Mandami, we call him now the zombie uh Mondami, right in advance of uh Halloween, the zombie.
Well, I haven't heard this yet.
George Pataki and I got together and twisted your arm to run in order to make sure that Zoran Mondani got elected so we can win all over America.
Yes.
And he said it about three times this morning.
I'm gonna play it right now.
You think of your performance last night?
Can you yeah?
First, I think with Mondami, you're right.
I think Mondami got exposed.
You know, there's no there with Mandami, he changes his answers.
Uh, and I think it was obvious yesterday.
Uh, I got a chance to call him on a few of them, and he did a total flip-flop.
Uh, and you know, he's got that uh used car salesman grin.
Oh, he died.
Don't worry, this is uh cream pulse.
It's a was owned by a little old lady.
This car only drove it to church on Sunday.
Yeah, give me a break.
But uh let's let's get real.
Curtis uh is a major factor in the race, but not for the reason you think Curtis cannot win.
No Republican voted to put Curtis on the ballot, no Democrat voted to put Curtis on the ballot.
He was put on by the party bosses, the Republican county chairs.
Uh that's why you kept talking about Pataki and Giuliani because they're the party establishment.
And they put Curtis on because he is a spoiler, and they want Mandami to win.
And I'm telling you, Sid, straight talk.
They want Mandami to win because it is good for the Republican Party politically.
They'll take Mondami, they'll run him around the country, they'll run around the state, they'll say, look at how crazy this Democratic Party is.
They voted for this 33-year-old socialist, he doesn't have any idea what he's doing.
He's anti-top, anti-business, anti-Semitic.
It will work for them politically, but they will kill the city.
I want to kill it.
And Curtis is just a spoiler.
He cannot win.
You vote for Curtis, just save yourself the time and vote for Mondami.
That's what this is.
It's, and that's all he talked about, Pataki and Giuliani.
Yes, he's the candidate of the Republican Party chairs.
And what Republicans and your listeners are going to have to decide is what's more important.
Voting for a Republican, because I'm a Republican and I'm going to vote Republican.
We don't, we don't we don't need to listen to this liar from the time he was 16.
What a vote vote for Cuomo, not the homo.
Remember that?
You know where that came from, right?
So did Ed Coch until the day he died.
When I supported his old man, right, his father.
Yep.
Uh uh uh Koch said, you know, it was the right decision for the city, but I had to go vomit, and not because of Mario, because that little shit.
Um, well, in any event, but Rudy, I don't think I don't think George Pataki and I have had a conversation about this.
No, no, yes, we have.
We had one conversation about it.
It was on January, it was on uh September 11, and he and I both said, can you believe the city would get to considering a communist candidate?
Yep.
And he said, Mayor, I uh you know, when you were mayor, I I could never have thought of I could never have I could never have thought about that.
And that was it.
And we haven't been in communication since then.
He's making that up.
He's a complete narcissistic pathological liar.
And I'm gonna ask to go on Sid tomorrow and rip him anew, you know what?
Oh, yeah.
And Rudy, the best thing was if you notice me in the debate, I must have mentioned George Pataki to him about three dozen times because I knew it would get under his skin because of the father.
They asked me who is the best president ever.
I said, Oh, George Pataki.
Anyway, I think when they asked me who is the best mayor, I said, Rudy Giuliani.
So it was in his mind, and the moment oh, he heard he heard the two names.
Right.
The moment I turned to him and I said, You know, you you're not pro-police.
You paroled 43 cop killers into the streets in eight years.
Yeah.
Your father was governor for 12 years, never paroled one cop killer.
I knew your father, Andrew Mario.
You're no Mario Queen.
Yeah, and he just you could see it in his face.
That was it.
And he was so angry this morning.
He said things he should never have said.
Imagine a station that's listened to by Republicans who idolize you and George Pataki for what you did, and also for how you helped our entire country in 9-11.
He called George Pataki your glorified coat holder.
That's how demeaning this guy is.
Oh, I remember that.
I criticized him for that when he did that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I remember when he did that way back in 2002 or two.
Yeah, I find that.
Gosh, you got a great memory.
Uh yeah, no, and I do remember that.
He called him my coat holder.
It was so unfair.
I mean, Pataki was a real hero.
He didn't have to give me the authority that he gave me.
He could have just said, I'm taking over, I'm taking over.
But he said, No, let's do this as a joint project.
You know the city better.
I know the state better and how to get things.
So your knowledge of the city, you run things in the city, and I'll get you what you need, like that.
And then I said, and then he said this.
You'll love this.
Uh he says, uh, President Donald Trump should call state TOP chairman Ed Cox, and Ed should tell Curtis to drop out of the race.
Now, number one, it's less than three weeks to go.
I'm already on the ballot.
I've said a million times, no, I'm not dropping out, but that's how crazy is that's why I'm I'm saying uh the desperate people will do desperate things.
Yeah, I mean, I got I got a lot of that pressure too.
And I thought about it, and I have to tell you, I did very heavy conversations about it.
You know, look, Curtis, I love you, and I want you to be mayor, but I love the city more.
Yes, and I actually thought about it.
Is it I mean do I have to?
And I went through it, and I probably had my deepest conversations.
These are your biggest fans, by the way, Dr. Maria and Andrew.
Yeah, and they said, I think they said, if you do that, we won't talk to you anymore.
They said, How about principal?
That's right.
Look, Curtis, honestly, has as good a chance of beating him as Cuomo.
It's gonna have to be kind of like a uh surprise revolution.
And well, not only that, but you know, Rudy, that debate changed everything.
People and the debate the debate changed everything, and you don't have a ceiling.
Uh uh, Andrew has a ceiling.
There's a group of people that hate Andrew.
I mean, like, really hate him, and it's better than 50 percent.
You have people that don't know you, correct?
They hate you, they don't know you, right?
They just have to watch that debate and see this is a very intelligent man, he knows what he's doing.
He ran, you know.
Next time, do a little more.
Everybody has advice, I'm sure, but next time do a little more on how you ran a worldwide organization and what a good executive you are.
Yep, and also how you saved a lot of these kids, you know.
Uh that's the thing that impressed me right away.
I'd look at these kids, these kids would be the guys I'd be arresting if it weren't for you.
Instead, they're saving other people, helping other people.
And you know, the other thing never, and they never were like goons or they were always very, very used self-defense when absolutely necessary.
They were hardly they they were hardly you know creating problems, but you say you saved their lives, definitely.
And Rudy, last night for the first 10 minutes, the moderators treated me like a person of no consequence, like oh, Maria was crazy.
She was going nuts.
She was watching it and reporting.
That's when I realized this was like roller derby.
And I was gonna have to elbow my way in.
The moderators do not seem to understand, Rudy, that this debate is not about them.
Increasingly, debates now are more focused on who is asking questions than the people running for office.
Mario Cuomo, a much better Cuomo than Andrew.
1977, Rudy.
I'm watching Reggie Jackson, three straight home runs, Yankees win four or two against Tommy Lasordis Dodgers, Yankees win, Yankees win.
Howard Cosell announcing there's fires in the background and the concourse area, the Bronx where he grew up.
He says George Steinbrenner is talking about moving the Yankees to Secaucus.
I'm saying the metal lens.
The only thing you moved back then to the Meadowlands were mobsters choking on their lobsters, dead guys of organized crime and garbage.
And there was a real fear that that was what would be transpiring.
Now, obviously, when you got elected, that ended.
But that year was a heated Democratic primary.
Koch beats Cuomo Mario, Mario lives up to his promise, runs on the Liberal Party line.
You had Barry Farber, the talk show host who had lost to Bella, and then you had the uh heir to the X Lac's fortune, a Republican uh liberal, the old traditional Republican, the state senator from the Upper East Side.
Rudy, there were 12 debates.
Gabe Pressman moderated most of them, and all he did was throw the question in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gabe was like that.
Yes.
Right.
If it got a little too congested where you couldn't hear them talking, you break it up.
That's what a moderator is supposed to do.
Not dominate the comedy.
And imagine, I remember in 2021, I'm running against Eric Adams.
There was a four billion dollar gap in the city budget.
And in one minute, they wanted to have me explain how I would resolve that.
I said, excuse me.
No disrespect, but I can't even tell you in one minute how to balance my checkbook.
How in how in one minute's time am I gonna tell you how you're gonna balance a budget that, as you know, as mayor, you have to have a balanced budget with a four billion dollar looming gap.
These questions, they don't give you enough time.
It's not a conversation.
It should really be a conversation between me and Andrew.
We disagree, but we engage one another, not the moderators.
They they think they're the stars of these debates, and they're really not, they're really not at all.
Sure, and it's not not good for the voters.
What they really should do is let all of you debate and then equalize the time.
So if one guy got too much time, they should say, wait a second, wait a second, Cornwall, you got too much time.
The other guys have to have to get a little time now.
Just make it equal and let them go at it.
Exactly.
Or or you have enough outlets.
You did that, you were great, right?
But uh, you have enough outlets.
Why not one night?
You know, that you have different outlets.
One night you're just talking about public safety, quality of life.
That's it.
You need an hour.
Another night, it's about affordability, the cost of living.
Those were the two big issues on all the voters' minds.
That takes a lot of explanation.
Curtis, uh, the best answer you gave is I'm not going to the Mets game.
I'm a Yankee fan.
Said GOP nominees, Lee were not mincing words.
Exactly.
And you remember when you had me MC, the the event in Bryan Park, Mr. Mayor, in which it was Mets versus Yankees 2000, Jeta's Yankees versus of course Bobby Valentine's Mets.
You had fences in the middle, Mets on one side, Yankees on the other.
Right, and I'm screaming into the microphone.
I hate you, Met fans with a passion.
I'm a Yankee fan, and all your deputy mayors, Joe Loda, uh, some of the others, Randy Master always say, get that guy off of here.
He's gonna start a riot.
Yeah, well, you got my son like that, too.
Right.
You then took over, and you said, that's right, like Curtis, I'm a Yankee fan.
And I make no bones about that.
You know, I thought if I would, if I said I was a Yankee fan, when they all knew it, right?
I would get you know credit from the Med fans for being honest.
All I ever got was things thrown at me.
Whenever I go to Shay Stadium, go back to the Bronx, you bum until 9-11, and I got a standing ovation on 9-11.
Yes.
You know something?
They probably voted for me more than the Yankee fans.
Yeah.
Well, there were more of them.
They lived in this.
Of course, it comes down to deciding about is your kid is Roosevelt Avenue gonna be uh the worst uh uh drug and prostitution zone in the world or not, because it's getting pretty close to that, and that moron wants to wants to completely decriminalize prostitution and Curtis.
Uh we we got the girls off the streets when I took over as mayor, there were prostitutes all over the streets of New York, yep.
And my major objective what you want to do inside a house, I can't control that, you know, unless it's a uh other different kind of crime, but you're not gonna have the streets filled with these poor girls who you're stealing out of poor families.
And who does this moron think prostate these prostitutes are?
These are these are poor kids who are whose lives are ruined.
80% are poor kids whose lives are ruined.
I mean, by the way, it's typical of him and AOC and the other democratic socialists of America in the poor neighborhoods, but in Astoria, you don't see any prostitutes walking around.
Why wouldn't Zorhan say, hey, it's not what I say, it's what I do.
Welcome to Astoria Park.
Turn this into a walk.
They won't do that, they won't have it in their own neighborhood.
Well, the feminists of America support Curtis, yeah, because Curtis understands the dignity of being a woman.
No, they don't.
Yeah, no, they don't.
They're a bunch of communist slime, and they don't really give a damn about women.
Women are just a means to an end, it's a way of manipulating a Marxist way of manipulating society.
Curtis, you're the guy.
We're gonna have a lot more talks, and I got a couple more ideas.
I cannot emphasize to my audience how important this election is, you know, but I also can't emphasize to my audience how they got to go down.
If they have to go down, they go down swinging so we can get up and fight again, not having given up our dignity and our principles and like sucking democratic you know what.
Yep.
The way the way the way this whole movement worked, conservative movement is we we didn't give up.
Right, but on our principles.
You see, Rudy, I got the best corner man, the best cut man in the business, the best consigliary in the business.
I was your apprentice for all those years.
I learned from the God, I'm I'm I'm I'm actually you I always knew that, but watching you now.
Don't you see some of you coming out of me?
Yeah, yeah, I'm very proud of you.
All I do is enormously excited.
I'm repeating things that I heard from you for many, many years.
But you've also had a lot of knowledge about modern stuff I don't know about, and it's terrific.
It's terrific.
The way you apply it.
Well, we're gonna have you on again, and we got a couple of ideas, and yeah, I was hoping Andrew would make it here, but he he's still is trying to come in from Washington, but we'll get together, the three of us.
Oh, yeah, he's he's been so great.
Oh, no, no, no, he's he's a hundred percent.
My part, thank you.
God bless you.
Thank you to you, Rudy, to Andrew, to Dr. Yeah, and to your wonderful family.
Yes, God bless you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Now that's a real candidate.
See, that's a real candidate.
That's a man who believes in something.
You know, you look at you look at this jackass in New Jersey who's running, Cheryl.
Graduate of the Naval Academy.
Wow.
Thank you, Wenson, or whatever the hell you are.
Except she clearly cheated.
Didn't let her graduate with a class.
They kept her behind at the Naval Academy for 257 days.
And then they finally found some kind of a broken down plane for her to ride.
And they only took her because they had 88 cadets that cheated.
Man, imagine if they threw all 88 out.
You know what would have happened if they threw all the eight out.
No other cadet would ever have cheated again.
Except our Navy.
Please, please don't get crazy when you see a bunch of stars.
Maybe I should do this one.
A bunch of stars on here.
They can be very valuable and they can be very important.
And they can also be that these guys were the biggest ass lickers in the Navy, the Army, the Air Force, or the police department.
You've got to look behind it.
They are as many of them are as often bureaucratic bullshit artists as they are great leaders.
Great leaders get washed out because they have ideas to challenge.
You get, oh my, you get something to get through, Patton.
My God, no.
Eisenhower, MacArthur, my friend, my friend Jack Keene.
Come on.
You can't do better than that.
General Keene.
He wouldn't give up principle for anything.
Most of them are like me, Lee, you know, if the if President Trump is going to attack the Chinese, I'll call him up.
Now I've hung him for that.
I think that's I think that's treason.
I'm sorry.
I don't want to hang him particularly, but I think I think that's treason.
Well, sure, put him in jail for the rest of his life, so no other general ever thinks that.
You don't get the right to determine unless you want to go to uh amendment 25 of the constitution and try to take him out of office if you got the guts to do that.
And Millie, why the hell didn't you do that with Biden?
You knew Biden was a sub-moron.
There's a there's a there's a video that there's a uh an email in 2019 with Keith Abilot, who I don't know, I gotta talk to Miranda.
She didn't bring it out in her interview with him.
He got away with this.
Keith Abilow that did an interview with Miranda about how he knew that Biden was demented, right?
Except he he moved it ahead about three years.
We we we have him on a on an email.
Yeah, I'm just hunting that saying that the old man is dementia.
This is 2019, the old man is demented, and how they can get things past him, and how stupid he is.
So Keith was lying to you, uh Miranda, but what why wouldn't he?
He was a disreputable psychiatrist, he's a total piece of crap, and now he's trying to make he's trying to try to get himself back on Fox.
He probably will because he's a total piece of crap.
I can't get on Fox because I tell the truth, yeah.
Like the 2020 2020 election was stolen, despite uh the lies told by some of your reporters that they never really believed it was, never really believed it was they believed it more than I did, and I tell the truth, and they lie.
I mean, it's ridiculous, it's just ridiculous, Ted.
It is it's uh absurd, mayor.
Do you know what?
You know, you I gotta complete the story because this is so important to me.
It's about see, I'm a sports fan, crazy sports fan.
Probably one of the biggest tests of my integrity was would I pretend to be a med fan and a Yankee fan?
I mean, there are other things that wouldn't be as important if I fudged it a lot, but this would be really important.
I said, No way.
I want to know who I am.
If they don't want me, don't vote for me.
I got a little nervous about it after the first election when they didn't vote for me, but that didn't mean I quit, I did the same thing in the second election, and they did, and then I went on a landslide.
I absolutely guarantee you I had more med votes than Yankee votes, because I'll tell you who some of the Yankee fans are.
But how about this?
Cuomo said.
Cuomo said, I'm going half and half.
I can make it back and forth.
That was Cuomo's answer.
That tells you everything you need to know about him.
I'll say for Mandami.
The committed Marxist, the committed Islamic supporter of Islamic extremism, the guy who wants to destroy your culture, not just your city.
Well, he knows who he is, actually.
He wants to destroy you.
He said, This is what New Yorkers are sick of.
Just pick a team.
I'll be there for the Knicks.
Wait.
I gotta.
That's what he said.
He said he would prefer the Knicks over the Mets.
The guy doesn't know.
But wait a second.
He was willing to take a stand.
He's a committed Marxist.
That doesn't mean that's good.
It means this guy could win.
Right.
I mean, that's very impressive to people.
Instead, you hear Cuomo saying, well, I'll go.
I could at halftime.
First of all, uh Andrew, there's no halftime in baseball.
He said that we don't have half time in baseball.
You miss the jackass.
I miss this.
And by the way, if you think I'd miss Jack Az that the two best mayors were the guardia and Dinkins, you are a disreputable liar.
You know the two best mayors with the Guardia and me.
You know that.
You know that your father knew that.
Your father told me that.
Your father helped to get me elected and bury Dinkins because he had so many people killed.
There's no mayor that ever got to 2,000 murders a year than the guy that you're modeling yourself on.
Dinkins, what do you want?
Is it 2,000 murders a year?
You're just a miserable liar.
So I don't know.
Mondami's terrible.
He's a damn communist, but I want you.
You can't tell the truth about anything.
You can't decide between the Mets and the Knicks.
You're gonna support a mayor that your father wanted out of office so badly.
He put out the report on the pogrom in Washington in Crown Heights, so that I could be elected.
You know he did that.
And he went about ripping Dinkins apart for turning the city over to Al Sharpton.
Now I don't know.
There are things you can compromise about in politics, but these are things about life and death.
We got a guy that's running that hates the Jewish people.
I mean, he hates the Jewish people in intensity.
We may not even understand.
We've seen this happen before.
And let's face it, he's an Islamic extremist.
He could equally hate the Christian people.
They should do a great job of knocking off Christians.
issues.
What are you doing fooling around like this?
Tell the truth.
This is why I didn't support you.
Because you're not capable of it.
It's real simple.
I want Curtis Lee with a win.
I believe he can win.
If I have to lose, I want to lose with Curtis Leewood.
Not with you.
Because you've turned out to be too much of a slime ball.
And you could do as much damage to the city as Mandami.
You could.
Mayor.
It's possible that Mandami would give us a chance.
You would more slowly erode the morality, the decency, and the greatness of New York.
You sure did it as governor.
You were a horrible governor.
How about 49?
How about 49 cop killers on the street because of you?
I'm gonna support a guy.
My uncles had four cops that were uncles.
I had a cousin who died in the line of duty.
I bled for every single one of the cops that died under me.
I went to every one Of their funerals.
Same thing on September 11.
I'm gonna vote for you.
You put out 49 guys who took cops' lives.
What are you crazy?
No.
You're a suck-up.
You're a cowardly suck up to the crazy insane Marxist left wing of the party.
You cannot stand up to them.
You know something?
We go back and look at your history.
If you had the balls to stand up, you'd probably maybe be president someday.
But you ruined it because you don't have courage.
Well, mayor.
Yes.
What is your response to what we hear from a lot of folks?
Something along the lines of I like Curtis Sleewa, but he can't win.
And he needs to get out of the race, right?
You have people literally using that word.
He needs to get out.
Very simple.
I had to go through this under a lot of pressure, right?
Right.
Pressure doesn't bother me, as you know.
Yeah.
But this was extensive pressure.
I'm not even gonna from people gotta support Cuomo, gotta support Cuomo.
All the money people in New York got to support Cuomo, gotta support Cuomo.
Curtis will destroy.
I looked at it, and I'm gonna tell you as a political analyst, pure I I mean, I can do like crazy things with my mind.
I can get it all out, and I can just be a political analyst.
If Curtis Slew left the race, Cuomo would not win.
Curtis Slewer, it's not the reason that Cuomo isn't winning.
Cuomo isn't winning because people hate Andrew Cuomo.
He has what we call in politics a ceiling, and it may very well be better than 50%.
Something like 45% of 54% of 55% of people will not vote for him if you went and twisted their arm.
If you sent the mafia there and told them we'll kill you, they still wouldn't vote for him.
Right.
He had his chance, he was a governor, and he was a terrible governor who had to leave in disgrace because of uh harassing women.
I don't know if that's true, but it sure as hell was a pretext to keep you away from the 15,000 people who died, where he lied completely about everything he was told and everything he did.
There's no way to know exactly his involvement in that because he lied so much, just like he lied yesterday when he told you that Dinkins was his model mayor.
He thought Dinkins was a complete moron, danger, and a nasty man.
I'm gonna support that guy.
How do I know that we aren't better off?
God forbid, with this communist who we can stand up against with our principles not having been.
I mean, the minute, the minute, the minute if we have to do it, we have to deal with this guy.
They're gonna look back on us and say, Well, look, you compromise with that with that crook and that you really care about the city.
Political movements in this country change, and you go take a look at um Barry Goldwater to Ronald Reagan, didn't happen in one race, but we stuck to our principles, and then we dominated the country.
Trump.
Trump didn't back off his principles, he stuck with them.
That's what's necessary now.
Otherwise, we just complete repeating the sequence that the Marxists have gotten us into that they're much better at than we are, which is lying and pretending.
So I'm gonna tell you vote for Curtis Slewer because he represents your values, and if enough of you do, he'll win.
If enough of you don't, he will, because there are enough people, I believe, maybe I'm wrong in New York City that do not want a Marxist Islamic terrorist Jew hater to be mayor, nor do they want a pathological manipulative liar who has no idea what the truth is and can endanger us.
The reason we have so much crime is not Mandami, he hasn't had a chance yet.
Imagine what he adds on what he's gonna do.
It's Cuomo.
It's Cuomo who released all the prisoners, right?
It's Cuomo who released all the top killers.
It's Cuomo who's the reason why I tell you, I don't know, every day for the last four years, there are five to seven thousand people walking the streets of New York City that would not be walking the streets of New York City if I a Bloomberg were the mayor.
You know why?
Because they want to kill you.
They want to rape you.
They want to rob from you.
They're career criminals.
They don't know how to do anything else.
True.
They don't have and and nobody's nobody is gonna try to help them do anything else, and it wouldn't matter.
There are people you can rehabilitate, and there are people that you cannot rehabilitate.
And if you can't distinguish between the two of them, do not govern people.
Because you got a lot of people killed, like Dinkins did, like de Blasio did, even like Adams did.
Mm-hmm.
But this guy could take us to a level, who knows?
And Cuomo can't stop it.
He doesn't have the credibility.
He doesn't have the honesty, he doesn't have the integrity.
People who follow uh uh uh uh Trump see honesty, credibility.
They see he believes in something.
They understand what he means by America first.
You might not agree with them, but they know how to follow him, they know how to implement what he wants done.
I I don't know, I'm probably 98% right when I listen to him about what he wants done.
Every once in a while, you gotta go back and find out.
So our friend Curtis is gonna be on Dr. Maria Show.
At 9 p.m. in 9 p.m. Eastern in just 13 minutes.
Okay, so we're gonna switch you over to there in a few minutes.
Did we do our break?
Have we done our break the second hour?
I don't think we have.
Well then we gotta we gotta pay the bills.
You don't want me to not have anything to eat over the weekend, do you?
Come on.
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So I'm gonna move real fast so I can get you back to Dr. Maria, who's doing an interview also of Curtis.
And I don't know, a woman's touch can be a little different.
And she has her own views on Curtis, which are all positive, obviously.
I I should say, and I'm not gonna go into great detail on this, but I will when I talk to my lawyers.
I think Smartmatic is still suing me.
But it's really nice that I'm being sued by a company that is being uh prosecuted uh as a federal felon.
Uh they were they were indicted today for violating the foreign corrupt practices act.
Now, when you say that, that sounds kind of uh mushy mushy.
Uh they were offering bribes in order to get contracts for their damn uh phony machines.
Um they have sued me now for four years.
They uh they're not gonna get a settlement, uh at least not one in which I say anything nice about them.
Um go after yourself.
But it looks like a couple of them go to jail, and by the way, they were screwing around in Venezuela, which is exactly the place we said it all started.
Uh uh, you know that remember we were made fun of it, all started in Venezuela.
This indictment's in Venezuela.
Uh you're gonna find out about all these these uh these machines where they say you can't they actually say things like you can't access them by internet, and in the manual, it shows you how to do it.
So smartmatic looks like they're gonna go to prison.
Good.
That's good.
Now they are very, very much heavily uh placed in Venezuela.
We are bombing the hell out of Venezuelan boats that are bringing fentanyl and other things into the United States.
I have a feeling that's a two-pronged mission.
One is to stop the drugs, and the other is to get Maduro the hell out of there so we can have a very successful country in Venezuela.
Yes.
Well, that's Trump must do that for U.S. national security.
It's number one national security threat that we have because the Maduro regime and the Solis Cartel are the government of Venezuela.
You can't separate them.
It's the same thing.
So it began with Chavez, right?
Well, he Maduro succeeded Chavez.
So China's laundering their money, Russia, Iran, they're all there, and uh Ralph Pizzulo's explain who he is.
Oh, yeah.
Well, we got our good friend you remember.
Come on.
Businessman, a writer, and a friend of the show, run a tight timeline, and we want to get right there.
With a great deal of experience.
So Ralph Fazzulo's new book, Stolen Elections, taking Taking Down Democracies Worldwide, where he explains how the Venezuelan cartel stole the 2020 election with the machines that you're talking about.
That's one of the reasons I was disbarred, because of my false testimony about Venezuela.
except this book proves you correct.
You were right then and you're right now.
What's the name of the book?
Stolen Elections, the takedown of democracies worldwide.
Okay.
We gotta get that.
We will.
The worst part is that the Solis cartel, that Venezuela is the money.
Cuba is the brains.
Cuban intelligence has the intelligence community, the State Department, in their hands.
They have so many agents in there.
And if you say that they're blowing up.
That Maduro is blowing up the boats?
Well, I mean, Trump is blowing up the narco vessels?
I think more than eight.
You know what's happening in Guatemala, the ambassador and the DCM in Guatemala are keeping the president of Guatemala illegally in power.
He was a legally installed by the Biden regime in the State Department, and they're keeping the land route open.
So while Trump is bombing these boats, these guys are using the land route, and the U.S. ambassador and DCM are helping keep it open.
And the the DCM last week intervened to take over Guatemala's Supreme Court.
They want to take over the judiciary.
He actually coerced and threatened members of the Guatemalan judiciary, the Supreme Court, because there's an election, and he needs to control the cartel needs Guatemala to stay open, and they must control the judiciary.
Trump needs to take a look at that.
You know, the reality is that Venezuela has been a problem for us for a long time.
We've gone back and forth about how to how to how to deal with it.
But it's terrible.
You know Venezuela really well.
Uh I know Guatemala better than Venezuela, but I do know a lot about Venezuela.
It could be a very rich country.
It's the richest, it's got the greatest oil reserves in the world.
It should be.
Well...
He'd be a great ally.
Well, Maria Cornina Machado...
Mike Ismael is a great ally.
...just got the Nobel Peace Prize.
She should be the one running Venezuela.
Yeah, I mean, we all felt bad that she got it because Trump should have got it, but she deserved it.
Yes, she won the election.
Yes, supposedly by a landslide, and they cheated the hell out of her.
Of course.
The New York Times wouldn't admit it because they can't admit that they're part of the problem.
Yeah, they can't admit that 2020 was a cheat.
That well, of course not, because they're on the other side.
But it's the same company, smart man.
Oh, you're gonna find out.
There's stuff I can't tell you right now, but it's all gonna come out.
It's all gonna come out.
Well, thank you.
And thank you.
We'll have you back because we we really want to follow.
What's going on down there?
I want to see this guy thrown out.
I know some of the I know I know the oil business pretty well.
I my my law firm, that was their specialty, and it wasn't mine, but I learned it from all of them.
Uh and I had a few accomplishments there, like getting helping Perry become secretary of energy and Perry helped to make it independent.
And uh I just have always had a great feeling about Venezuela, about what it could do, what it could do for us.
What it, you know, we here's what he's doing.
In many ways, we were kind of alone in the world.
We had to do everything.
We had to fight China, we had to fight Russia, we had a fight in the Middle East, we had a fight here, and then like when when NATO would come and help us, the French troops would stay back and not fight.
They cooked the meals.
What he has done is he started the hell with NATO.
He's gotten us real allies, guys.
I go fight with like I I used to be a boxer and a street fighter.
I hate to admit it, but I don't want some pussy next to me.
I want a guy next to me who can swing and hit.
Israel can swing and hit.
Okay, I got one good one.
Now I gotta make more of them.
Japan.
Oh, would I love to have Japan back?
Best warriors in the history of the world.
Yeah, well, I think we're in the process of getting it.
We get Japan back and China will well, and we need Trump needs the the Western hemisphere is one of his priorities, and he cannot secure the Western hemisphere unless the Maduro regime and the Solaris Cartel are removed and the traitors in the in the intelligence community and the State Department are identified and removed.
Okay, so I think we have, and we don't have the time for it right now because I'm gonna send you over to Lindell TV.
In a strange way, I think right now, and it could change.
Right now, I see really positive movement in Europe.
They just laid out a really really effective uh uh defense plan that they're gonna be responsible For and and and do it in conjunction with NATO.
We need that for Latin America, South America.
Yes.
And we got we got allies.
We do.
We got some very specific.
But you know who allies who's been propping up our enemies?
The intelligence community and the State Department.
Of course.
Why?
We're gonna talk about that now as the show is over.
And if you want to know about you're gonna have to come back on Monday.
And this weekend.
Well, we're gonna have a lot of information for you.
At the end of this week, we're gonna meet a lot of people this weekend.
We're gonna have a lot of information for you on Monday.
And if we have to come back because something happens, he and I love to do that.
We'll be we'll be right back.
I mean, if we decide that we want to go kick the shit out of Iran.
Already did that.
Again, no more Ayatollah.
Goodbye, I have to no more Ayatollah.
And Hamas, I don't know.
Why are we still talking about Hamas?
They should be gone by now.
Yeah, well, this the so-called deal.
They mean they're shooting people, they're killing people, they're not they're not.
So how about we just I don't know, let's do let's devote a week to just getting rid of Hamas.
Yeah.
I have a feeling that BB would would actually like that.
Right?
You might think he would have liked, he would like that.
So okay.
So now we're gonna have to we we got a weekend coming up.
That means Saturday, Sunday, depending on your religion, pray.
Look, if you're Jewish, you can still pray on Sunday.
If you're Christian, you can still pray on Saturday.
It's just when the services take place.
And uh so pray to God, it's the same God, and ask him for his help.
Because we ain't doing this without God.
If you think we're doing this without God, you're gonna lose.
That's what part of the problem here.
We threw him out.
We need a higher power to relate to, to think about, to read about, to get advice about.
I was on a great show earlier with a beautiful, beautiful prayer about peace from Pope John Paul the 20th, Saint John Paul the 23rd.
And it's not it's not Nambi Pambi, you know, let's all sing songs.
Peace through strength.
Only thing that works.
And wow, does it work?
So pray for Israel, pray for Ukraine, pray for Iran.
Pray for the people of Venezuela.
We'll put them in today and the people of Guatemala.
And of course, you pray for us, but mostly pray for the wisdom of our president and pray for his safety.
Because you've been so good to us, God.
I mean, we just have to, it's on us now.
If you keep him with us.
So God see you Monday, maybe earlier.
Seven o'clock on Lindell TV.
Eight o'clock on X, both times on X. If you just want to do it, if easier, you just do X. And we'll give you all the stuff nobody else tells you, like this stuff that we're nobody else would tell you this.
God bless America.
God bless America.
Uh what they did was criminal.
Uh deranged Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal.
And I noticed uh his interviewer was I think that was Weissman.
And I hope they're gonna look into Weissman too.
Weissman's a bad guy, and he had somebody in Lisa who was his puppet, worked in the office uh really as the top person, and I think that uh she should be looked at very strongly.
It there was tremendous criminal activity having to do.
If we don't have fair elections in this country, we're not gonna have a country.
And I've said it from the beginning: fair elections and border, borders, and we need also fair press, because if you don't have fair press, it's very tough.
And uh we've got the strongest border of anybody, nobody has a border.
We have a border where the numbers just came out again.
You saw zero people came in illegally.
Now we do take people into our country legally, but zero people.
But you know, you're talking about a different subject, you're talking about political crime.
They have committed massive Political crime.
I hope they're looking at shifty shift.
I hope they're looking at all these people.
And I'm allowed to find out.
I'm allowed to, you know, I'm in theory the chief law enforcement officer, but I have a very good, talented group.
This is about something else, but I hope they're looking at political crime because there's never been so much political crime against a political opponent as what I had to go through.
They raided my house in Florida.
It was an illegal raid.
I have a lawsuit that was doing very well when I became president.
I said, I'm sort of suing myself.
I don't know.
What do how do you settle the lawsuit?
I'll say, give me X dollars, right?
And I don't know what to do with the lawsuit.
It's a great lawsuit.
And now I won.
It sort of looks bad.
I'm suing myself, right?
So I don't know.
But but that was a lawsuit that was very strong, very powerful.
They raided illegally my house in Florida, Mar-a-Lago.
They went through the drawers of my young son.
They went through all of the cabinets and drawers of the first lady.
She walked in, she said, Wow, what happened?
because she's very meticulous and this wasn't so meticulous as she looked into the drawers and she saw everything a mess it's our purpose to bring to bear the principle of common sense and rational discussion to the issues of our day America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
There was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American best sellers, in which Thomas Paine explained by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
Because the desire for freedom is universal.
The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world, the greatest democracy, the freest country, a country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self improve is because we're able to reason.
We're able to talk.
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