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Oct. 17, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show: Friday, October 17, 2025
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Well, to get to the serious stuff going on at the White House today, you have to lead in today with yesterday.
Putin called the president yesterday.
They had a long conversation.
And the president got a good feeling about whatever.
Now, remember, up until yesterday, the president was thinking very seriously about giving Tomahawks to um to the Ukraine.
He had also said two days ago that we have enough tomahawks to take care of Ukraine and take care of Venezuela, as well as ourselves.
Leading into today's meeting.
After his conversation with Putin, there was a starkly different tone.
When he said the U.S. um, after he had said the U.S. uh had so many tomahawks, he'd be willing to send some to Argentina.
He he just said we need tomahawks for the United States of America, too.
That was a little bit after the Putin call.
We have a lot of them, but we need them.
I mean, we can't deplete for our country, so I don't know what we can do about that.
He did say he made a lighthearted reference to it in his conversation with Putin.
And the light hearted reference was he said to him, I I imagine he calls him uh Vladimir, right?
Or Vladdy, I don't know.
Vladimir, would you mind if I gave a couple of thousand of Tomahawks to your opposition?
I did say that to him.
I said it just that way.
He didn't like the idea.
He really didn't think it was a good idea.
Uh no, I said it that way.
You have to be a little bit lighthearted, the president said.
But I am I am uh I'm just raising it.
I that was a definitely not just, you know, a birthday call by uh uh dear old Vladimir.
That was a very, very calculated call, knowing that Zelensky was coming today, and he didn't want the president to lock himself into giving them tomahawks until they have their meeting, which I may add is still not really scheduled.
It's for it's for uh Hungary for Belgrade, where their mutual friend Victor uh Ortkin can uh can preside, and he is a mutual friend of both, but his heart and soul is with us.
I I know that.
Um so let's see what happened today, Ted, with um with Zelensky, who got a very, very, you know, good things have changed completely with Zelensky and Trump.
They're both on the same side now, and there's mutual respect.
So let's take a look.
What's gonna happen if the United States is in a conflict?
And we need the Tomahawks.
Well, that's that's a problem.
Uh we need Tomahawks and we need a lot of other things that we've been sending over the last four years to Ukraine.
We've been, you know, we gave we gave them a lot.
Now we have a different situation.
We send it to the European Union, they pay for it and all that, but and they have plenty of money.
But uh we it's beyond the money.
You know, we need uh tomahawks, and we need a lot of other weapons that we're sending to Ukraine.
One of the reasons we want to get this war over is exactly that.
Uh it's not easy for us to give you talking about massive numbers of very powerful weapons.
So that's one of the things we'll be talking about.
Hopefully, they won't need it.
Hopefully, we'll be able to get the war over with without thinking about Tomahawks.
I think I think we're I think we're fairly I think we're fairly close to now.
Let's get to Kara's question of him.
Um let's get to Kara's question.
Uh uh that um she asked Zelensky, uh, and this was quite a comprehensive question.
We may well let's play.
We have to maybe have to play this twice for everybody to country.
Excellent question.
Thank you all.
Uh our president, President Zelensky, President Trump just broke it a peace deal in the Middle East that all Americans, both sides of the aisle are very proud of.
But to meet that deal, both sides had to meet concessions.
Our president has stuck out his neck in many ways to make a a peace deal for your war as well.
What specific concessions are you willing to meet on this war with Russia?
Will you give up joining NATO?
Americans have foreign war fatigue, and our presidents, as he said, we need our tomahawks too.
To me.
Yes, you both.
Thank you very much.
That's some question.
So many questions.
Thank you very much for your question.
First of all, I think we need to sit and speak.
The second point, we need ceasefire.
Even now, you see, in the Middle East, it's very difficult to hold Cisfile everywhere in every war.
It's very difficult.
We want this.
Putin doesn't want.
That's why we need pressure on him.
We will speak with President today what we need.
We understand what we need to push Putin to negotiation table.
And as I said previously, so we are ready to speak in any kind of format, bilateral, trilateral, doesn't matter.
Matter, just peace.
This is important.
And we don't speak about uh NATO or NAT NATO.
For Ukrainians is very important.
It's our decision, decisions of allies to decide where we are.
But are you willing to give it to the other thing?
Yes, but the most important thing, the most important thing for people in Ukraine, which are under each day's attacks, to have really strong security guarantees.
NAT NATO is the best.
But weapon is very important.
Allies, and I was saying this very important, and between us, for us, bilateral security guarantees between me and President Trump is very important.
I don't know, we didn't speak with details about it, but this is the most important document.
Because the United States is very strong.
Boy, that is a different Zelensky than uh uh seven months ago, huh?
That was a very, very good question, Cara.
Uh she's not able to be on, right?
Um, just tell me yes or no.
I I just talked to her.
There's a good chance we might get her.
Okay, well, if we can get her, I'll I'll ask her again.
But um that was a very comprehensive and excellent answer uh without screwing up the negotiations.
So uh Ukraine really should ideally achieve three things, right?
Their territorial integrity was violated illegally in violation of a of a treaty between the United States, them and Russia.
So they should get their land back.
It was all taken in violation of international law.
It was also taken in violation of a specific treaty that we signed, meaning the honor of the United States of America.
Yeah.
I know that sounds stupid, but a lot of people think that's very old-fashioned.
I don't.
Uh two, and I think it has to be rebuilt in many ways because it's been shattered uh by Biden more than any other president.
Uh number number two, of course, uh, when the war is over, and they have their land back, they have to have real security against uh Putin.
Actually, no matter how they end up on land.
Not being able to do it all over again as soon as nobody's looking.
Right.
And then they they they ideally would want to be part of NATO.
I'm gonna say part of NATO first, and then I'm gonna say for part of EU.
Now and then I and he said most importantly, he needs a strong relationship with President Trump.
What does that mean?
It means a strong relationship with President Trump, of course, but with the United States America, run the way President Trump runs it.
Because as a countries all over the world can tell you, unless we have our occasional scumbag president, uh America's word is its bond.
That strong relationship with America is actually more important than the other four.
Okay.
But the other four are important.
So let's go through them.
What's realistic here?
They're not going to get all their land back.
Right now, right now, Putin's going to give them none of this.
He originally, he did a bait and switch.
He originally said, I don't want, I'm not going to give any land back.
I want the rest of Don't ask.
Now, none of these things are just words.
You've got to understand these guys are really bright.
And they know exactly what they're doing when they're negotiating.
And I'm including in that uh killer Putin.
Uh I have uh total disdain for Putin and total respect for his intellect.
Um when he says I want the rest of that don't ask back, doesn't look real big, you know that.
That's the oh that's one of the keys to uh Ukraine security.
That's in their own hands, where they don't have to worry about Europe or the United States or somebody else.
So if he takes that wall, he virtually has access to the old under the entire underbelly of Ukraine and can take it in weeks.
That's what's prevented him.
Now, he knows he can't breach that wall.
That's what he's been trying to do.
He's even given up.
And they have an assessment that was leaked that said it might cost them, think about this.
Well, they they use soldiers like what cost them a million soldiers to take that.
So they want that.
So, as part of that, in the last deal that the president came away with, they were gonna let Ukraine have security from Europe with guidance at least and oversight and equipment from the United States.
Now that did that that that accomplished uh two things.
That made the need uh to be part of NATO uh not as not as, which is the third one, not as oppressing, since they almost have.
In fact, it was described as NATO-like security.
And the soldiers would be right there.
Should the guy come over, they're there.
You might say it would also ameliorate giving some of the land back, but I don't see that.
That's sort of putting us, meaning not just us, our allies, uh, we're putting them in a dangerous situation, right?
Right now, if they went into uh Ukraine to to to support it, they've got that beautiful wall that has proven to be impregnable.
We give up that wall, we make them a little bit, at least the ones on the uh southern and eastern front, we we make them uh targets.
Sitting ducks.
Not that we couldn't overcome them, but we're gonna have a problem like we had in the Battle of the Boes, where uh all of a sudden the Germans overwhelmed us with troops that we thought were in Russia.
So I would say, I would say a deal goes something like this.
You don't get the wall.
Putin, you don't get the wall.
Uh Vladimir, you've got to give up land.
I know they stole it from you, they took it from you, it violated the treaty.
And even my country is uh uh uh responsible for that.
Not me, but my country, and I take that very seriously, which is why the number five thing you want, which is the most important, uh, our relationship is gonna be much stronger if you agree to this.
Because you're really doing us, you're letting us off the hook.
Um, but uh you are entitled to some land back.
So I'm gonna sit down, I'm gonna sit down with your uh with your people, and we're gonna trade land.
You got about 20, 25 percent of uh Ukraine uh Vlad.
Uh you're gonna end up with about, hey, we'll we'll give you maybe even 12.
You know, no more than that, though.
I'd like a 10 10.
But a 12-8, if I get the right eight, it'd be okay.
Now, the right eight, you damn well I know where that is.
I'll go help him find it if he wants.
It's where all the minerals are.
That's where it is.
And why the hell do you think they're fighting over it?
Why do you think the Russians want to hold on to that?
That area they have has somewhere between 30 and 35 percent of the rare earth and minerals.
If we get that, and let's say we play with them a little and we take half of that.
And we end up with 80 to uh 85% of the of the um minerals and rare earth that Ukraine has in a 50% split with them.
We have just we have just gone a long way in solving our problem with China.
When they pull this stuff like, we're not going to give you a rare earth, and we're not going to give you minerals, and you can't have computers, and you can't.
We can say, you know, uh gee Z finish your finish your wonton suit before you screw around with me.
Um so there are there are points here, there are deal points here.
Land back you can negotiate with as long as he's negotiating with it.
Real security, you cannot.
You could negotiate with NATO if you have real security, but you can't give up real security in NATO.
Part of the EU, I'm not sure that's even part of this, nor do I think Russia is terribly concerned about that.
I do it if I could get away with it, but I wouldn't give away anything for it.
In other words, I wouldn't say uh agree that they're part of the EU and we'll give you all the land.
Uh you can be part of the EU and not be part of the EU.
Just make uh unofficially be part of the EU.
Why do I think it would be of marginal importance?
I think it would be a marginal importance because it would um and why Putin would probably object to it.
It would do something to westernize uh Ukraine, and you have to realize that this battle is a battle to stop the westernization of Ukraine.
That battle is about 800 years old, my friends.
Uh part of Ukraine looks west.
Poland, Germany, part of Ukraine looks to Moscow.
What part?
You could arguably say uh by the time they came out of um, by the time they came out of the war with Germany, it was about 5050.
Um they're in relationship with Russia was terrible before the war.
Russia almost committed a genocide against them.
Um but then they needed them for the war.
And they were, I think, some of them were enthusiastic about their having won.
And the Russians moved a lot of Russians to Ukraine, as they did other places to try and make them Russian.
So that'll be very close, and we'll have to see.
Uh the uh the meeting should take place the sooner the better, because people are getting killed while uh well Vladimir dicks around with us.
Uh Kara.
Hi.
Great question, great question, great answer.
Thank you.
I'm just going, I was jogging.
I don't know if you could see me.
I'm here in Virginia.
I was doing a victory lap.
I had me today that I got to ask that question, and that we got a lot of response for it.
A lot of people, I think, had similar questions.
So um, yes, Mr. Mayor, but I wanted to pop in and say hi.
Sorry for the uh sweatshirt.
No, not at all.
You look great.
I just have only one question.
I was surprised at how much better prepared Zelensky was today than the idiot we saw four months ago or five months ago.
In a way, I think it reminds me of the godfather when the godfather slapped around Johnny Fontaine and when he was crying and told them, grow up, be a man.
I think Zelensky, that was a very good answer, Zelensky gave.
Very balanced.
A lot of room to negotiate.
I think he realizes he has to come a little more prepared when he meets the President Trump, and that the American media has a lot of questions.
So I think he came at this time, you know, obviously with more respect.
He was wearing the suit, uh, as you can see, and uh, you know.
Brian Glenn was there to comment on it as as you also saw that he was wearing the suit.
So uh, you know, I think he expected the hard questions today, and he was more prepared.
And hopefully this is uh, you know, leading to better things.
President Trump hopefully will be able to get Putin to agree to peace, and uh we can move on from this war.
That is, I think what the American people want, Mr. Mayor.
You didn't give him an easy question.
I didn't.
I asked him if he gave him you gave him a four or five-part essay exam.
And he didn't.
I had one chance, but I didn't want to lose it because I know the other journalists interrupted.
So really, I just wanted to know what can what concessions he would make, because obviously with Israel and Palestine to make that deal, the president had to get concessions from both sides.
So both sides have to be willing to give something up.
Uh so you know, it's being serious in a serious negotiation.
You can't get 100% of everything that you want.
So really, I know NATO is a big thing that they're uh after, and uh Putin has a hard line no on that, whereas Ukraine has one of that.
But President Trump himself has said that that's not really a realistic ask at this moment in time affording Ukraine.
So there's a way around that with very strong security.
But that's where the strong security becomes important.
But it was a fabulous question.
Thank you.
Have a good weekend.
You see, Mr. Mayor, God bless you.
God bless you too, and stay safe.
We are very lucky to have her and Allison.
Um we'll see what happens with the top tomahawks.
Uh there are people that do believe that the tomahawks are not as critical as I and many others believe they are, because they believe the economic uh situation, the economic sanctions are the ones that are the smarter way to go without risking further escalation.
So the argument for the Tomahawks is they're gonna blow part of Russia apart, and they ain't gonna like it.
I mean, they've been typical bullies, they've been ripping apart Ukraine and getting away with it.
His people are not gonna be very happy when a big apartment building in Moscow disappears.
Um however, they may want them to fight back.
So you could escalate with that.
I would say uh delaying it until the very last minute, only if you have to.
And and the um and the economic situation, believe me, is getting worse for all of their propaganda.
So I don't know if you know that the price of oil is at a ridiculously low O level, has declined tremendously.
It's a little over $50 a gallon.
That's their that's their breaking, almost their well, it's not quite their breaking point.
That's their pain point.
When they're at 50 or lower, that's their pain point.
You get down into the low 40s and then the 30s, they're finished, finished, finished, finished, finished, finished.
It determines all of their rest of their uh uh throw-off industries because they are too much of a singular economy.
Uh stupidly organized that way, because they're Marxists are stupid economists.
Marxism is an idiot economy.
Or as uh Mandami proved last night in his debate, socialism is it will never be possible for a socialist country to go up against a truly uh powerful capitalist country and survive.
It just can't happen.
I mean, we we we have resources that they can't possibly reach, uh, nor do they have the creativity we have, because their educational system kills it.
So oil now is at um Thursday, it was at 5699 a barrel, which makes it down to 2% for the day, but 20% for the year.
All indications are is it is going to go lower.
And um how much this has to do with the pressure on India not to buy uh oil, the pressure on China not to buy their oil.
Uh in China and in India, the pressure is a hundred percent tariff.
In China, we're getting ready to do a tariff.
Europe is getting ready to do a tariff.
I suspect it's gonna be done before they meet.
And um let's see.
This is the lowest price since 2021.
And um, I am actually surprised that the uh well, did they do it or did I just not read the article clearly enough?
I don't I don't see terribly uh strong reference to the impact this could have on the on the war.
It could be the reason why Putin wants to meet and try to get this damn thing over with.
Um meanwhile, the U.S. is at an all-time high.
Uh way exceeding uh way exceeding uh stupid Biden.
Um we've been climbing up since he took over.
Biden Biden took us down.
I don't know if I have this.
We're gonna take a break, and I'm gonna see if I if I have this on my on my um thing because I'm gonna show this to you.
This is what they don't this is stuff they don't tell you.
Now there's some stuff they don't tell you that we're gonna talk about uh on purpose because they are covering and there are other stuff they don't take because they're lazy and they um they really don't understand what they're covering.
So we'll be right back.
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If I'm sitting, I won't fall over.
Be careful with that.
I think it's better with a back.
So you can bring it closer.
All right.
Come on.
Come on, come on, come on.
Yeah, you come in right here.
Good.
Okay.
I mean, it's never falling, but you never know.
Well, I hope it's Ted, I'd like I uh um I'd like you to you know for the next show, I'd like to see if you can get a mic ready and stick it over there.
Okay.
Okay.
I may ask you a few questions.
Yeah.
You or you, both of you.
Okay?
Yeah, you're stuck with Venezuela.
I want to see what comes up, all right?
And then I told them about your meeting with Bibi.
Yeah.
And we're back.
And we're back.
We're back.
Well, uh so let's get a few things out of the way before we get to the debate.
The oil prices, I think, are something that you should understand.
And I do not understand why that Wall Street Journal, which is supposed to be our financial, doesn't make this clearer.
This is an enormously important piece of information.
If the price of oil goes down, Putin is kaput.
Over finished.
He's having a tough time right now.
He's got several areas, and the only ones we can be certain of are Siberia, which is not very populated, but it's real big and real important.
And they are having gas shortages, gasoline shortages in Siberia.
Now that's not going to affect the common folk, because they don't live in Siberia unless he put them there.
It does affect oil, however.
How does it affect oil?
They bring uh not all of it is done by uh by pipeline.
A lot of it is done by truck.
What do you need for a truck?
Gasoline.
Putin has not gone Elon Musk electric because he doesn't want to have to stop every 30 miles and you know take an hour to crank up the the truck and then another that may be finished by now if he used the Elon Musk cars.
So right now they have a shortage in Siberia.
I've heard that 40 times, and I've not heard a single nitwit point out the strategic importance of that.
That could be more important than having an a shortage in Moscow.
That might in fact create more political issues, not neglating those.
But this is this is what we call a strategic issue.
Now, the second place they have oil shortages, the second place they have oil shortages, is believe it or not in Crimea.
The country they just took from Ukraine.
And it must be that that um that uh road to road to Crimea from Russia to Crimea ain't working so well because those pipelines, I bet, are still controlled by Ukraine, and they cut them off.
So uh if the pipelines that lead to Crimea will work, and Crimea would have more gas and oil than anybody.
Question Given how they censor the news almost as much as we do, not quite as much, but almost as much.
How many other places have gas shortages?
Moscow seems to be fine, but that's like a Potampkin village.
You know, you make it you make it all nice and you make it look good and uh, you know, you you bring in the only live people you have in the country, and that could that kind of thing.
And the communists are great at that.
But this is a very, very big Problem for them.
So let's look, let's look at it.
Let's look at let's look at it like we were make believe economists, okay?
Which is better than the press is because they're not economists at all.
Uh so we can do we can do better than them.
I assure you, we can we can do better than the stupid, idiotic, moronic press.
Part of it being that we had become energy independent.
It took a massive dump at the very beginning of 2020.
What's that?
That's the pandemic.
Then it worked its way back up from the pandemic, back up, back up, back up.
When you got to the middle of the second, we got to got to a little bit around the middle of the Biden traitorous term.
It was at the highest price it had been in forever.
Well, you get something for Brive.
I mean, they we know they gave him 3.5 million, and you know that's only part of it, right?
So by 21 to middle 2022, it's at about 11 dollars a barrel.
Up here.
Biden summit for the Russians.
Then it starts coming down with the war starting to hit, right?
So now uh Biden, notwithstanding, everybody's hitting them with sanctions.
So it's coming down, coming down, it gets down to 75, 75, they can live with, goes back up, it's floating around 75, and then what happens when we get a president right down.
It's got it's done a couple of these, as you can see.
But it's been straight down to the lowest price now since uh in like 12 years.
Every reason to believe it's gonna go lower.
So where does where's the cracking point?
The theory always was it was around $35 a barrel.
I would say with the additional pressures on them, it's probably more like around 40 now.
Uh because remember, they were they're they're trying to support a wartime economy.
And they're having trouble.
I mean, they're borrowing North Koreans, right?
Who do they borrow lately?
They borrowed uh Cubans.
Are the Cubans have the Cubans been given a course and how to distinguish a Ukrainian from a Russian?
Because the North Koreans were shooting the Russians thinking they were Ukrainians.
Right.
I have a feeling it's true, you're right.
I mean, I'll admit it.
I I myself, right?
And I'm looking is it can you can you call it borrowing if unfortunately some of these guys aren't?
If the if they die on the battlefield.
Vladimir calls up, hey fat boy.
Uh I'm sorry, no, no.
Uh Mr. Oon.
Oh, Mr. Ounyong.
Young un.
Oh, you like Mr. Rocket Man.
You still like that other guy better than me, right?
Yeah, I know.
He's a lot more charming, that son of a bitch.
But okay.
Uh uh send me about 10,000 of your guys you want to get rid of, okay?
Good.
Okay, send them over.
You're gonna send them back?
You guys don't care about bodies.
You're not like Jews and Christians.
You care about bodies?
Come on.
When did North Koreans care about bodies?
I that's what I thought so, fat boy.
We'll send you back.
You make believe their bodies.
Good, good.
Man, tough dealing with that guy.
Yeah.
Well, let's take a break.
We'll be right back.
We're gonna let them vote on whether we should do a comedy show.
I always I always get we're still on.
I always still on, mayor.
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This is Rudy Giuliani, back again with the Rudy Giuliani Show.
I think I I mean I can't.
You know how proud I am of Cara and Alison, right?
So um Karen had a big win today.
Alison had a big win two days ago when she completely knocked out uh baby Dallas Andro.
Uh pugnosed Dallas Anjo in one round.
Um let's let's let's play Allison and let's show just how classy Pelosi is, and what a great product of a Catholic education she is from the Dalessandro family in Baltimore.
Her father was a mayor, and her uncle was a can I say it?
I want to do one thing.
I'll do one, I won't say anything because it can't be defam defaming if I do it.
Just do this.
You figure out that means, okay.
The Dallas Angelo family, you know, this this will tell you in one quick boom, you get a sense of who she is.
Like the quality of her, how classy she is, how dignified, how knowledgeable, how intelligent.
Let's watch it.
Congresswoman Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the new January 6th committee will find you liable for that day?
Are you at all concerned about the new January 6 committee finding you liable for that day?
Why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th?
Shut up.
I did not refuse the National Guard.
The president didn't send it.
Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist?
The American people want to know we still have questions.
Thank you.
We did not have any accountability for what was going on there.
And we should have.
This is ridiculous.
You're gonna ask me in the middle of the thing when they've already breached the uh inaugural stuff that uh uh should we call the Capitol Police?
I mean, the uh National Guard.
Why weren't the National Guard there to begin with?
They thought that they had sufficient question of how they have they don't know.
They clearly didn't know, and I take responsibility for not having them just prepare for war.
Well, first of all, I had I I just I just had to point out that that looked a hell of a lot like the scene in the Godfather One when uh he was uh when he was leaving, and he was talking to his lawyer, and he said, um, I think it was his lawyer, and he said, um six minutes.
Yep, let's we're not gonna break our promises.
We're not we're not gonna break our promises.
We're gonna keep until I die.
When I die, they're gonna come and they're gonna ask for a meeting with Michael.
That's to set him up.
Whoever comes, that'll tell you who the traitor in the family is.
So, so Hagen says, So, you know, he'll he'll he'll he'll be he'll be coming for what was it, the Teforo family or whatever, the DeForo family, the Teforo family.
The Foro family, a bunch of pimps.
They couldn't outfort Santino.
It was Barzini all along.
It was always Barzini.
And of course it turns out to be Barzini.
So, I mean, this is so that looked like that scene.
And her daughter is a Hollywood producer.
It looks to me like they were trying to put together a like a mafia thing.
Right.
Right?
Right.
Now, uh I don't have much more time left except to tell you that.
What you're gonna be, what you're gonna get as a Thanksgiving gift into Christmas is we're gonna blow open January 6th.
Now, are we I'm gonna tell you why we're gonna blow it open?
Because it has it, it is like, and if when we blow it open, my head will get a little smaller because it's been driving me nuts since that day.
This is not a brag, this is not anything other than a terrible burden.
I knew from that night that it was a phony and that it was Antifa Pelosi directed.
And now finally, with this with the opening on Antifa.
And I will also tell you some of the people I met with this last weekend.
I think we got it all.
There's a there's a text two days later that says the 250 plus Antifa members were in there.
There's now proof there were about 200 plus FBI agents in there.
There wasn't much room for anybody else.
And they have never gone and done face identifications of the people that were dressed up as Trump people that belong to Antifa.
How many do we have to have to prove a setup?
A hundred.
Suppose I show you pictures of them doing all doing most of the damage.
And our guys go into prison forever because we have a DC, we have it, we have a DC court.
Do you know how horrible the court in the District of Columbia is?
Do you know what an abomination it is to me as a lawyer that this court exists in the United States?
And they continue to be unAmerican, moronic, idiotic, reversed all the time now.
So we got to get that one open too.
And we're not doing this for vengeance.
There's no one doing this for vengeance.
Well, I can't say no one.
Certainly not the president, certainly not the attorney general, not the deputy attorney general, not not my friend Cash or my good friend Dan Boncino.
We're doing it for justice.
Well, let me make it a little more specific.
Deterrence.
I am a big believer all my life, which I've dedicated a lot to the criminal law, that deterrence is enormously important.
So were the English who developed the common law.
Two reasons for criminal penalties.
Justice, deterrence.
Not revenge.
Notice the difference at the way Comey was treated compared to the way Peter Navarro was treated.
Did you see leg irons on Comey?
Compare it to Roger Stone, whose children were frightened by Gestapo attired agents coming in with machine guns.
They really think that Roger Stone was going to have a machine gun fight with them.
Oh, and they brought CNN along with them.
Did we bring anybody along with us?
No, no.
The arrest was done the way I did, a thousand, two thousand, three thousand, four thousand of them by the rules.
But but they're not going to intimidate us not to apply the rules, which is what they're trying to do.
There's no comparison between us and them.
Comparing us to them is like comparing Hamas to Israel.
There's no moral equivalent between us.
So, and we'll make that point.
But it's coming.
Justice is coming.
So you stay tuned.
Go over to X now, and we're going to have as a special guest, Curtis Slewer, who may very well be the miracle winner of the campaign.
If God can divide the Red Sea.
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