Rudy Giuliani - America's Mayor Live (754): Remembering September 11th, Twenty Four Years Later

Sept. 11, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani

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America's Mayor Live (754): Remembering September 11th, Twenty Four Years Later

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	Good evening.
	This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is America's Mayor Live, live from New York City, from Times Square, the center of the universe.
	Well, think about it.
	Is there any other place where more people come and gather from different parts of the world than Times Square?
	I doubt that it's China.
	Nobody wants to go to China.
	You tell me where.
	London is now a Muslim city.
	Paris is a Muslim city.
	Rome might make a case, but their numbers are much smaller.
	What I'm saying can easily be proved by the fact that unfortunately the UN is in New York, which means that every country in the world is represented in New York.
	Is there any other place where that's true?
	That doesn't mean you have wisdom.
	We wouldn't have a democratic socialist communist candidate for mayor if we had wisdom.
	But it does mean that we have a great deal of attention.
	And what happens in New York has an awfully big impact on people's impressions all over the world of what's happening in America.
	Tonight, the president is at Yankee Stadium.
	And I I guess uh I'm not sure if he threw out the first ball.
	I feel like I don't know why.
	Well, we would have seen it by now.
	I have no, we have no evidence.
	We saw the lockdown.
	He was in the locker room talking with the players before the game, but we do not have evidence that he uh we have no video of him throwing out the first pitch.
	Recall the the moment in the uh 2001 World Series, I think it was the third game when he showed up and threw out the first ball and threw a perfect strike, even though they moved him back at the very last minute, they moved him back from the front of the mound to the to the rubber.
	So he had to throw it fur further.
	The first couple of times he had to really practice.
	And I was a little worried.
	They really cheetah did that to him.
	Cheetah saw him practicing at the front of the mound, and he said to him, Mr. President, you're not gonna do that.
	They want to see you throw a strike from the right place.
	And I said, Oh, don't pay attention to him.
	And the president did pay attention to him, and then of course the president delivered a perfect strike.
	I uh that symbolism was enormously valuable to Americans.
	Um so that sort of I think reminded everyone of that.
	There it is.
	We'll put some put it with sound.
	Sorry, I don't want to get it.
	Wasn't that beautiful?
	Look at that pitch.
	the president of the united states That's the way to do it.
	You're not a powerful professional athlete.
	Throw it up high.
	No, it'll come down in the right there.
	Don't try to throw it hard.
	It's good.
	Thank you.
	Good, good, good.
	We have a little circle.
	It's possible somebody would have swung a mist.
	I gotta tell you, that's one of the moments in my life when he got in the dugout.
	I went like this.
	Because we were only a few weeks after September 11th.
	We had already had an additional anthrax attack.
	Threats every day.
	I don't know how many threats there were on the stadium.
	And uh last thing in the world was that I wanted him to throw out the first ball.
	And I wanted him to throw the first ball.
	Can you understand that?
	And um what you just saw is impossible to secure perfectly.
	We we searched every single person that came into the stadium.
	We virtually had them take their clothes off.
	Uh by the time when I got there, I checked with the the chief.
	I don't know how many cops we had there.
	500, a thousand, FBI.
	With all of that, you realize that one person can foil The whole thing, as has happened with Charlie, right?
	Took one person on the top of that uh of that building to do it, it looks like.
	So if a president or governor or mayor wants to appear in person for the morale and the support of his people, there's no possible way to secure his life completely.
	That doesn't mean you can't do the best you can, and you do a lot better than they've done for President Trump.
	But it does mean you're always at a point where no matter what you do, just one person who can shoot fairly well, can defeat you.
	Of course, that's what happened yesterday in Utah with the brutal, savage killing of a young man who, after all, preached the gospel of Jesus Christ,
	and uh the benefit of logical discussion and argumentation, like a modern-day Socrates, who walked among the students of Athens and sat in squares and discussed propositions with them about which they would have brutal arguments.
	Read read uh the uh uh the dialogues of Plato.
	Plato, Plato was Socrates' scribe, as well as his own philosopher.
	So Plato's um works, most of them are I would call them short stories about debates conducted by Socrates on points like corruption in government or uh adultery or moral subjects, in which he examined every aspect of it with the youth of Athens.
	Uh what did he get for all that?
	They poisoned him, they poisoned Socrates.
	They poisoned Socrates because he was expinging a citizenry that would be too well educated, uh too power too powerful for the potentates and the dictators and the small-minded little people to control them.
	So this is this is store, this is a story as old as the beginning of time.
	And mayor, we want to put these images up.
	The FBI has released multiple photos of who they believe is connected to this shooting.
	If you have any information, call 1-800 call FBI.
	That's 1-800 call FBI.
	Is that picture up now on the uh these pictures are up on for overviewers to see?
	Share these with your friends, especially if you're in Utah surrounding states.
	How do they describe when they put this out?
	How do they describe this?
	What does the FBI say?
	So the FBI has uh put this out.
	We are uh we will uh bring this up here.
	This just being released uh about eight hours ago, earlier today.
	The FBI in Salt Lake City is uh is seeking information on this individual in regarding the shooting at him out as a person of interest in connection with Charlie Kirk's assassination, correct?
	They don't say he was the shooter, no, correct.
	That's all all they say is uh this is the only statement on this on these pictures.
	Quote, we are asking for the public's help identifying this person of interest in connection with the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University.
	If you have any information on this individual, the FBI is asking you to call 1-800, call FBI.
	That's very effective.
	Do you have any idea how much the public can help in an investigation and trying to find a killer?
	And when you know how to utilize it, and I'm very, very glad the FBI did that.
	It shows the change in process from what was becoming a really second-rate law enforcement agency to one that's setting the pace.
	Well, We saw the director today, and the deputy director, uh Dan Boncino.
	And some people question whether they should have come to the ceremony.
	I thought it was beautiful that they did.
	They showed how important remembering 9 11 is.
	We need to do that for the next generation.
	They need to know how important this is.
	And of course the simple reality is I mean, uh Cash Patel and Dan Boncino are brilliant men, but the FBI has investigators when you find the right ones, and I sure found them throughout my career that are brilliant.
	This investigation is gonna isn't gonna lose a beat because Cash Patel and Dan Boncino went to remember uh an enormously significant day in American history that is still part of our present, and still part of what they're combating.
	I mean, it's monumental the problems that a person like Cash and Dan Boncino have.
	You'd have to have been in law enforcement to understand it.
	It's much worse than anything I can think of facing, because there's so many unknowns.
	So now uh any idea on where that guy is?
	I mean, is there is there sort of a um a description of a scope of geographic territory he might be in?
	Right.
	So um we are learning further information.
	The FBI local authorities have released uh further information, of course, throughout today, the day uh today, so we will update you with the latest.
	Of course, we've shown you the pictures.
	Uh, we'll show those again shortly here.
	Uh the the suspect is believed to have jumped off a roof and fled into a neighborhood after firing just one shot.
	And uh, this individual has not yet been identified.
	However, these photos have been released.
	Uh previously they haven't put a name on him.
	They have not put a name on him.
	Previously, they've announced uh the recovery of a high-powered rifle that may have been used in the deadly attack.
	Well, that should be pretty easy to figure out.
	I assume they recovered the bullet.
	I mean, I can't imagine they did.
	It went through his shirt and then landed on the ground.
	So I can go there and recover it if you want.
	But um, so I think they've recovered the bullet, so they should be able to connect it to the gun.
	And when you say a rifle, a rifle is a very, very sort of ambiguous term.
	What does that mean?
	A rifle.
	Do we have any idea?
	I mean, you uh they may not have said, so we don't know.
	Well, well, yeah, uh, we have seen numerous reports of uh something close resembling a 30 odd six.
	Uh so we're gonna try and track uh down sorry for the longest range they have given for this shot is about here.
	Want to show it?
	Uh it is from what what we did.
	Oh, this is what okay.
	So we've created this last year.
	Changed it all.
	No, no, no.
	You know, I'm gonna take the Chiron down.
	You can put it back, blow it back up, Mayor There it is.
	But but you can you can uh you see the two circles, the circle against the building is where Charlie was standing, the circle on top of the as you can expand that a little as um as Ted says uh the circle on the roof is on the roof.
	Oh, you noticed that roof.
	Of course I noticed it.
	What do you say?
	Roof.
	That sounds almost but in any event, we're not gonna spend our time on roof or roof.
	Um but yeah, this is very important here.
	Uh, as the mayor describes what we're looking at here.
	That is not exact, and it's very important to get this.
	I mean, if I if I were doing this professionally, this would be one of the things I'd be concentrating on, which is the angle of this shot.
	Because when they tell you, and even even the president seemed to be dismissive of the fact that he may be a trained shooter.
	I find it hard to believe that someone other than a relatively well trained shooter could get under that awning.
	If If if what you're talking about is what I'm showing you, which is a shot of 200 yards from the top of that roof to the uh building, uh that is a relatively easy shot.
	It's not I think the chance of actually shooting and killing the person there, if it were wide open, it's probably about 70%, 60, 70 percent.
	Believe believe me, any shot can go wrong.
	But the minute you add to it the fact that there is a tent over the head of Charlie Kirk, which means that when you're shooting at that angle coming down, you have to get under that tent or through it.
	That's a difficult shot.
	It's also a very smart shot because it leaves the the the leaves the shooter with the ability to escape and get out of sight within seconds.
	All he had to do, if you go back, if you see that building that's blocking him, if we move him over, if we move him over just a little bit, I don't know if I have a thing here for it, but if we move him over just a little bit, you can see that he's blocked by by the white roof.
	There it is.
	So what I want you to think about is if you're really organizing this this right, and you're a professional, that's the way to do it.
	That's the one angle where you can get to Charlie.
	The rest obscures you for more than enough time to get away because that building is in the way.
	So people start looking back, and uh now luckily there were people.
	You see the arrow on the side there, see that arrow there on the side?
	Okay, well, that arrow is where somebody was taking video, and that's how we got video of the guy on the roof from the side, and you see him walking back and forth.
	Now, the video of his face, where does that come from, Ted?
	The video, those are uh we know where in the sequence of things that was taken.
	So that is a good question.
	We'll try to track that down.
	Those were released by the FBI.
	They may not, they may be may not want to tell us where at this time they can't.
	You make it you make a you make a uh uh uh you make a tactical choice, right?
	You try to withhold some facts about a murder like this, so that you don't get uh false confessions, it's very hard to believe.
	One of the things that afflicts investigations of major uh importance, political or public, is they're gonna be subjected to four or five false confessions.
	Okay, wow.
	In order to immediately discount the false confessions, you'll hold some facts back that only the killer would know.
	And then when the person doesn't know that, you realize that they couldn't be the person who did it, and you can get rid of them because otherwise they'll tie up your investigation for three or four days.
	So what you're seeing now, Mayor, and to our audience is what TMZ is describing as security footage captured before the shooting, uh, which shows this person of interest uh walking down the street.
	Now we identify him because he has the same shirt, it looks like the same shirt.
	And again, this is TMZ uh reporting this.
	Uh so this was just random footage they took at the time.
	They have uh had no idea security footage from a home, doesn't he look like he's limping?
	Yeah, it well it does appear he's probably I mean, I'm just this is uh speculation hiding the gun.
	Well, it looks like he's carrying something very heavy, or something very long and straight.
	But if it watches again, it was just long and straight, would it make you walk like that?
	Yes, because your knee wouldn't bend, right?
	Okay, he's got the gun.
	I mean, this is obviously speculation, folks.
	But one reason, or he has a limp, obviously, folks could you know, but to me it shows he's he may be hiding.
	He had a what one of the description was that the man had a long rifle, right?
	That's what you're talking about.
	And that would to me it.
	That's my initial reaction.
	That doesn't make that the case.
	We're looking at him before the shooting and walking toward the building, I assume walking in a nearby neighborhood.
	Oh, yeah.
	So this is now the this this portion of the film is him leaving.
	Ignore the two people walking in the front here.
	I'm not saying ignore forever, but right there, that arrow.
	Well, this is when he came down from the roof.
	The roof.
	All right, well, key on going.
	This is after the shooting.
	That red arrow is is the gentle is is the person of interest.
	And you got those two people in the front, which is interesting, walking.
	Three people walking.
	I don't think they know what the hell's going on.
	No, they don't know at this point.
	They probably have no clue.
	So what why this is uh so who's following him with his camera?
	No, these are cameras on homes, probably security uh foot.
	You know, a lot of homes don't have rings from camera to camera to follow they're going from camera to camera.
	I see what you're saying.
	Yes, this is a different camera, yeah.
	Yes, I did show.
	So they're going from camera to camera to follow his camera with the video stop.
	Well, notice these two people down the bottom corner.
	I gotta take this uh they're they're trying to they're waiting for him to emerge because that's the direction he was going.
	But look at those people in the bottom right, they now seem to be ducking, they seem to be reacting to something, right?
	See those two people in the corner.
	Let's see if we get rid of them.
	It almost looks like somebody was shooting at him, right?
	So let's see if we can hide that.
	Oh no, no, there he is.
	There he is.
	Yeah, there he goes.
	You can see him.
	So here he comes.
	Though the arrow, they'll put up an arrow to help you.
	There he is.
	There he is.
	And he's coming out, he is walking pretty fast.
	So my question is so so let's begin with the fact that a trained hit man would not be running.
	How do you call attention to yourself?
	You run.
	Right.
	The best way to do a hit, do it and walk.
	Like you're just part of the crowd.
	I don't know if the people that have paid attention or if he just walked out of there.
	Right, mayor.
	I have a lot of questions, of course.
	And the fact that it's a train, uh, a really highly skilled hitman isn't leaving the gun, isn't probably not leaving the rifle in the woods, right?
	Unless they're able to wipe their fingerprints.
	I think this was a guy if it was a ghost training in marksmanship.
	So he wasn't like um another lucky.
	I don't know that he was like a number one marksman, right?
	And uh that's not the right word, but and he he um was a little bit trained and was happened on the first shot.
	But we'll find out he's either gonna be a train marksman or very lucky, you have gone very lucky from his point of view.
	Right, right.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Unlucky for the rest of us, right, mayor.
	So but but um in our audience knows what we mean by that again.
	So we'll put these pictures up.
	They are grainy, but you know, if you share with your friends and family in Utah in this area, uh, and contact one eight hundred call FBI.
	That's one eight hundred call FBI.
	Uh and that's the latest at this hour.
	Are those all of the pictures of him that we have?
	Have we shown them?
	Those are the two, yes.
	And we've and I'm gonna put them up on social media.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, I can see that.
	Although I don't see it, I don't see it right there.
	I don't see a gun.
	Right.
	But if you had it in your pant leg, that's exactly how you would walk.
	Just exactly.
	I'll play it one more time here.
	This is TMZ.
	This is TMC footage.
	I wonder why they were shooting it.
	Why what made them this is before the shooting?
	This is this is before the shooting.
	This this is a camera mayor, uh, security camera on a home.
	This is a security camera on a home.
	Nobody was shooting him.
	This is just captured on a stick stationary security camera.
	Yeah, like a ring doorbell type, but but not that brand.
	I think it's a different that's really excellent that they have that nowadays.
	That's a huge that's huge for law enforcement.
	Most a lot of homes have these.
	I wonder if the quality of it is such that you can uh that you can uh actually hone in on and develop all the features of the yeah, you can hone in on it and now It would really require how good a camera was that's in his right leg.
	And and AI technology actually now.
	Yeah, but you can't tell from that.
	It looks like it might be able to.
	That's in his right leg.
	And this person.
	And look, that is an odd place to be running, right?
	Appears he's at the base of a hill.
	He showed us pictures earlier where you got a pretty good look at his face.
	Right.
	That kind of indicates he's a local because he knows how to get through the back of these property.
	So I'm beyond alert.
	He could be anywhere.
	I mean, there's evidence a big country, and there are any any number of possibilities to way to escape.
	I mean, it could be in Mexico for all we know.
	Well, at this point now, uh, yeah, we are 30 hours post uh well.
	We're getting into dangerous territory as far as solving a murder.
	Most murders get solved early.
	And um, it's gonna become more of a challenge.
	On the other hand, there's a lot of uh raw evidence available, and we've got probably half a law enforcement involved in it, right?
	So I mean, the good thing about putting that out is every every policeman in America sees that, right?
	So if he ends up in I don't know, San Diego, the cops in San Diego will know about it, right?
	That's the way that's the way you you use television and the media usefully rather than to exploit it, right?
	And and I mean look, and I know you're you don't want to toot your own horn, mayor, but you would you use the media for this way.
	I I caught I caught a terrorist that way by putting his picture up, several versions of his picture because the guy the guy, if he's smart, is gonna change a little bit of the way he looks.
	That means that if he's got any brains at all, yeah, that black shirt is gone by now.
	Right, right, and and and right if they're looking for a black shirt, and uh you better wear a white one.
	What was the the the famous case outside Spark Steakhouse?
	The two killers who took down Paul Castel.
	They trench coats, yeah.
	So everyone's looking for two guys in trench coats.
	The witnesses had looked for two tall guys in a trench coat halfway down the block.
	The trench coats were on the ground, and they were in a leather jacket and suit, but nobody was saying look for a guy in a leather jacket in the suit.
	That's a trained uh guy who's paid a million dollars to do a hit.
	Right.
	So this is I don't know that this guy was such a person.
	We have we have no idea at this point what his motivation is.
	Given the things that Charlie was involved in, you can make reasonable assumptions, but that's all they are.
	But you're right, mayor.
	If this person is has any brains, that black long sleeve shirt is now a yeah, it even has a very distinctive monogram on it, right?
	And the hat, yes.
	So he's got a hat with a distinct hat's gone, sunglasses are gone.
	You got he's maybe he has long hair tucked in under there, and he's wearing a pink polo and brown cargo shorts, right?
	Something totally different uh than this.
	I'm not saying that's what he's doing, but uh uh that that that's what we're facing as the mayor said, every hour counts right now.
	So we do want to urge our viewers, and we mean what we can tell is he's a fairly young man that looks like a man that's 35 or less, right?
	Yeah, it could be in his 20s, yeah.
	Okay, yeah, that's about all you can tell that he's a young man.
	Yeah, so I guess what we can take from this is the build, right?
	Yeah, uh you know, you can take the build, his shoulders seem to be pretty uh rigid, pretty square shouldered, not not big, not big muscles.
	No, he seems wiry, white wire is the word.
	There you go.
	If I were evaluating for boxing, I would say wiry, wiry and long arms, long arms, uh he looks like he looks soft jawline, solid, a solid man.
	He doesn't look like a weakling.
	Well, yeah, kind of wiry, like you said.
	No, no, yeah.
	I don't consider that.
	So these are the two pictures we want to we want to make sure you put them up.
	Uh share these, uh, pass them along to anyone you might know in that area.
	Right.
	Yeah, if somebody knows him, they'll say, Hey, that's like I don't know if you could you can you can you you can change those pictures and uh show him with the hat off and shaved yes you can you can shave him and show show that image because that's the way he may be appearing now so well they will they sometimes do that I mean they've done that for years right 100% yeah and now with AI technology and that much easier you'll see some enhanced photos much more accurate
	Yeah.
	We haven't put those.
	Maybe we'll put those up.
	I mean, the minute you do that, you're introducing distortions.
	Yeah.
	That's why I didn't put them up here.
	Those distortions are much less now than they were 10 years ago.
	Right.
	As the technology advances.
	I think it would be effective to put them out.
	I can't believe the guy is in the same outfit now.
	Okay.
	So let's get that.
	I'll show you some of the AI.
	You'll find these interesting, man.
	I would like your opinion on this.
	We're going to end up with a real dummy if he's in the same outfit.
	Right.
	And by the way, our own White House correspondent, Kara Castronova, was able to ask the president today.
	The president thinks he's not a professional?
	Well, he didn't say that.
	I'm kind of reading into his response to Kara, which he didn't want to say.
	I mean, it's hard to know.
	Yeah.
	And maybe he's just exercising extreme caution, which is obviously there's nothing wrong with that at this point in the investigation.
	Not to say.
	Well, if you look at the people with motives that we know of to kill Charlie, they would be people that were very passionate and angry about his views on social issues.
	Right.
	Which were largely mainstream Christian views that have prevailed for the last two or three thousand years that the left wing now disputes.
	I think it's really, really strange when the animals on CNN and MSNBC say he had very divisive views.
	When the views that he had have been held by civilized people for about two thousand years, like there are only two sexes, men and women.
	That's been pretty much both religious belief and scientific orthodoxy for who knows how long.
	Now, you want to challenge it.
	Fine.
	But don't paint me as the rebel.
	That is.
	So this is what you're seeing now is an AI enhanced version.
	Man, that's a terrific enhancement.
	AI enhancement.
	How good is it?
	I don't know.
	That's the original.
	Yeah, it looks great.
	And this is the enhancement.
	Yeah, I question the nose.
	I think the nose.
	The nose is a big feature, right?
	You got to get that right.
	You see how much narrow and sharper it is?
	Take it back.
	This is the original.
	There's a blurrier now.
	Yeah, I'm not sure that that nose is as sharp as that.
	And that will throw you off.
	I don't know.
	That's grainier footage.
	That's the original footage.
	So people have been running it through AI models to enhance it.
	This is the enhanced AI version.
	I think it's excellent on the rest of the face.
	They probably compensated for it.
	You see how difficult it will be to catch this.
	Catch him if he changes.
	Yeah, this doesn't help.
	I mean, the guy looks just like you said, Mayor.
	I mean, I can't read anything from this.
	Well, yeah, because of the hat, the glasses, and the shirt, right?
	I mean, a lot of men in their 20s and 30s have this build.
	We don't know.
	We don't know what kind of hair he has.
	It could be very distracting.
	You could have a big thing of hair puffed in there, right?
	And there's no help on where they're looking for him.
	What part of the country?
	So what part of the country?
	Still in the far west?
	I mean, I thought if he was going to go to Mexico, he'd go to Tijuana.
	Well, the videos we saw were just outside.
	The video was just in the neighborhood next to where this shooting had taken place.
	At this time, you're monitoring FBI statements to see where they're at with this.
	Maybe it's strategic.
	Maybe they're strategically not giving us everything they know.
	Yeah, yeah, that's always true.
	They have a gun.
	They have footage, pictures.
	This does appear to match the eyewitness accounts we heard yesterday, right, of a man in jeans.
	and a black shirt so there's that so I think we can now right take the individuals that reported those facts uh that's they seem to be um they seem, you know, their their witness statements would probably carry more weight, right?
	Because that part of what they said yesterday matches jeans, black shirt.
	So maybe go back to these folks that reported that and see what else they saw.
	Where this gentleman went, where he came from.
	Um where is he now?
	And that's and the mayor's asking the good question, right?
	And of course, where is he now?
	Years in law enforcement and doing this sort of work at all sorts of levels.
	Where is he now?
	And it's it is concerning that we're not getting an answer on that.
	And my only hope is that it means they they got him pinned down and they don't want to give them.
	And maybe they're trying to play it out to see if other people are involved.
	And see if other people are involved because are other people involved.
	They will now be helping him escape.
	Right?
	Ah, yes.
	And and I guess when you increase a reward, I don't know how dedicated folks are to a cause like this, but that that usually the award, if the award goes high enough, just think about it.
	Yeah, of course.
	All sorts of people get involved who actually are pretty good at this.
	I mean, you motivate them.
	Yeah.
	Who are good.
	I mean, they'll do it only.
	I mean, they're not necessarily good citizens.
	They just want to make a lot of money and they're good at it.
	Yeah.
	But but I'm talking about flipping.
	Yeah.
	But so there's that side of it.
	Now I'm talking about the FBI reward.
	They're now at, I think a hundred thousand dollars.
	So will you can you get it?
	Can you get people to flip the other way?
	Whoever's behind this.
	You mean somebody who has some involvement with them, wanting to pick up the hundred grand?
	Yeah.
	Or would that or would they be in a tough spot?
	Yeah, it depends on how involved you.
	Because you're not, we're not letting anyone.
	If you're not if you're not giving yourself away for 100 years in jail, sure.
	Yeah.
	So you're giving yourself away for a possible parole or yeah, but if you have one year in jail, sure, a lot of people would take 100,000 for one year in jail.
	But if you have information on this guy tonight and you're not coming forward, at what point are you an accessory to the crowd?
	Are you uh eating and a betting?
	If you if you know where he is, you're an accessory after the fact.
	If you unless you report it right away.
	Right.
	How much time do you get?
	Let's say I see let's say you walk half a day.
	Let's say he walks in this hotel.
	You get a what what uh is not very helpful, a reasonable amount of time.
	Yeah.
	And in this case, say half a day.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That'll be interesting.
	I just don't see how someone can collect this this 100,000 reward.
	Well, and and know where the sky is at this point, right?
	Unless you're a bounty hunter or something and you're out there looking.
	Well, that's that there are bounty owners.
	Yeah.
	Oh, what you put money out like that.
	They all they're all they're out there now.
	You get them all involved.
	And conservatives who love Charlie.
	Right.
	And people that love Charlie.
	100%.
	So there are people out there right now, you're right.
	Probably are conservative.
	I can't imagine they're not they're not gonna find him.
	I can't imagine they're not gonna find him within the next two days.
	There are just too many people motivated to catch him.
	Right.
	And of course we have too much evidence.
	That that's a those pictures are a lot more than you usually have.
	So we're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.
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	Well, welcome back.
	This is the Rudy Julian.
	This is America's Mayor Live.
	I was back an hour.
	This is America's Mayor Live coming to you from Times Square in New York City.
	And I believe that we are going to have on my good friend who I saw this morning on September 11th, the ceremony.
	My rock, when we were dealing with September 11, the former police commissioner of New York.
	No, oh, actually, we're having we're having on John Houvain.
	I thought we were having on Tom Bon Esp.
	We'll have Tom Bonas on very soon.
	Tonight we're minutes away from having a wonderful.
	Wonderful.
	The chief chief of security, John Houvain, uh, who uh was at my side every moment from the first warning uh that there was a uh plane that went into the building until uh we went to bed that night and uh almost died uh with everyone else.
	Great, great, great guy, John Hovane, terrific, terrific uh policeman and detective.
	John?
	He's gonna connect in just a moment.
	We're waiting for him to connect.
	Okay.
	He's about to, but in the meantime, mayor.
	Sorry, folks, a lot of moving parts tonight.
	Uh a somber day.
	It's unbelievable how many terrible things have happened right around September 11th.
	We we still have the Charlottesville, the Charlotte, rather, the Charlotte murder that uh was that happened on August 22nd, but it was uh outrageously uh covered up by crooked democrats.
	Um who should really be in jail for doing it.
	The governor, the former governor, the mayor.
	The police department has a video with this guy walking around the train saying, I got the white woman, I got the white woman, and they cover it up for a month and a half.
	What the hell's that?
	But racism.
	We're not entitled to know as white people that there might be a danger to us.
	And then I mean that's that's completely exacerbated by the fact that nobody, and the people on the train, at least right next to her, were all black.
	Not a single one of them doesn't need to help her.
	There's not a single indication of human connection.
	That's that's after she was stabbed and bleeding to death.
	And the guy was gone.
	There was nothing to be scared of.
	It was just sort of a decision that you you'd rather see a die.
	Which is what he was appealing to when he was telling the people, I got the white woman, I got the white woman.
	He was trying to stop them from uh helping to uh helping to incarcerate him.
	Maybe he'd be sympathetic with him because he got a white woman.
	Uh uh just think of how dangerous that is, if that is the thinking.
	And how much you've been hidden from that.
	Uh, to the to the extent that so many have been killed as a result of it.
	But that's right, Mayor.
	Um, so one an another unfortunate tragic situation we're following this evening coming out of the US Naval Academy in Annapolis, which is about an hour or so from Washington, DC.
	So we want to get you get it, give everyone an update here.
	Uh the gunman did open fire.
	Multiple people have been shot.
	Uh they do have uh the name of a suspect.
	Uh we're not, but we're gonna wait to to report that.
	They have a name in the name of the morning.
	Well, some folks are reporting a name, but I'm we we always want to wait for at least a few reputable sources.
	What's it what's his they're saying that his background is he was expelled just yesterday.
	He was expelled yesterday and came back today.
	That's to be this is the beginning of the semester.
	So he gets expelled at the beginning of the semester when he's showing up.
	A midshipman was kicked out of the school yesterday, returned dressed like law enforcement, and started knocking on dorm rooms before opening fire.
	And they don't say why he was dismissed.
	They are not announcing uh why he was dismissed, but there are multiple ports that the suspect is dressed as a police officer.
	Uh he is carrying a weapon and he is inside the secured campus.
	Uh U.S. Naval Academy, military and local police are sweeping building by building, and students within the last hour have remained on lockdown as this man hunt.
	Is he is he still shooting?
	Uh that we don't know.
	That's the thing, right?
	We had we had seen reports that there was no active threat.
	I believe that may have been to the city of Annapolis.
	So again, unconfirmed reports of at least three casualties.
	Now, casualties do not mean death, uh casualties mean injured.
	Right.
	Uh it's important to note that.
	Are they cadets?
	Three cadets.
	Um we don't know the identity of these three individuals, but based off of what they're saying.
	And what uh and by the way, it's the governor's office saying there's no threat.
	And what about that that is odd?
	Well, the governor is useless.
	That's that's odd timing.
	And the governor should just felt like this.
	How do you have it admit that he shouldn't be involved in serious things?
	Yeah, they don't have him in custody.
	How the hell did it be?
	This so we're gonna have to what uh governor Moore, this guy, yeah, he's a complete network.
	Oh my gosh, he's he's bad.
	And and you know, they really talk him up as a make believe without saying it, we know why the media is make believe uh media right, right, right.
	The guy is yes, he's so underwhelming, and uh uh maybe we don't want to make tonight about parsing.
	Right thing the Democrats are supposed to say today.
	And to your average, and maybe to your average person who isn't paying attention, he comes on TV, he says these rah-rah, thinking is painful, right?
	Wow, line maybe the line of the night thinking is painful, and we can take that uh uh I don't want to stretch it here, mayor, but the fact that they can't think and they can't argue with us on the battlefield of ideas, they resort to killing.
	Maybe that's one of the reasons Charlie was killed.
	Because no doubt about it.
	So they couldn't deal with him logically, so they had to kill.
	No doubt about it.
	I mean, what what did they do with the communist purges?
	And he's a long term danger to them, he's only thirty one years old.
	This guy could have been a fifty year menace to them.
	No doubt he would have ran a at some point in his life, most likely, you know, a presidential run.
	At least would have ran for president, you know.
	And now we are joined uh by someone very close to the mayor.
	As the mayor has said before, this gentleman was his chief of security on that fateful day 24 years ago.
	Today, we want to welcome to the show.
	John, John, how are you today?
	Mayor, I'm sad.
	Yeah.
	We always are, but it's a little worse today, huh?
	After everything else.
	So you really are in tuned.
	But today I saw you being given the recognition, what you suffered over the last couple of years, that people are coming up to you and starting to realize what an amazing leader you are.
	Oh, John.
	Thank you.
	And and and sir, I was in the front row.
	You were ahead of the curve on every instant.
	You understood the big picture.
	And what makes me sad tonight is I remember doing this last year with you and Bernie.
	Yeah.
	And we were joking and talking about how things were going, and the loss of an amazing police commissioner that you appointed and had great trust in, uh, is no longer with us.
	You remember when we got down, when you got me down to ground zero, the first person to come up to the car was Commissioner Kerrick.
	Yeah.
	Joe Loder.
	He rushed up to the car and took us over to the fire department command post.
	That's true.
	Pete Gancey and who we spent the day before in the Bronx opening up a firehouse.
	And Father Judge was there.
	And that was their last ever.
	That was their last full day on Earth.
	And Father Judge, while he watched people escaping the blazes, he was praying for their souls.
	But mayor, it has been an amazing year that you've been memorified, and the best way of putting it is everything you were doing was for the betterment of the country.
	And to see what's happened to Charlie yesterday.
	Oh, it breaks my heart.
	Frank Silub was you are a retired, among other things, you're head of security, but you also were uh New York City detective, right?
	Yes, sir.
	And that's a pretty that's a pretty brutal homicide that you that we saw.
	I I don't think I've ever seen as much blood come out of a man's throat.
	Sir, I can't look at that photo anymore.
	Yeah, and you and you've been involved in shootings, my friend.
	And and they were talking about praying for him when I saw the blood come out.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I agree.
	This is a homicide.
	Yeah, and uh when we look at somebody that you know, people have very strong points, and you know, left talks about oh, we gotta be more open, we gotta be more caring.
	He never argued with people, he stated facts as you always did as mayor, and he laid out the facts to Somebody that was opposed to this or that.
	And he always gave me a chance to talk.
	One thing you taught me was if you're gonna look at something, get both sides of the story.
	And if you're leaning towards one way, give them a longer time to talk about it.
	And that's what Charlie did.
	Yeah.
	So we're talking about freedom of speech.
	We're talking about freedom of speech.
	Charlie was a advocate of you know letting people speak their minds.
	And then we realize, and and God forgive me, how stupid they are, what they stand for, and what their beliefs are, and it's not the other algae, it is what they base it on.
	There's no research, they follow a group, and that's how gangs are formed, sir.
	Yes, exactly.
	And you and I in South America work so many times, and I know tomorrow the president of the Dominican Republic loves you, and has implemented so many things that you believe in, is gonna talk to you, but we met him as a young man, John.
	No, sir.
	When he was dreaming, when he was dreaming about doing it, and now he's doing it, right?
	He's done it, yeah.
	You know, so many he you know, mayor.
	This is the funniest thing.
	This is a uh uh a great president that sent his kids to Notre Dame, NYU.
	He's an economist, and guess what he did with the Haston problem?
	You and I talked about this the other night.
	He built a wall, right?
	He built a wall.
	Why?
	Because President he is inspired by President Trump, the president of the Dominican Republic.
	Oh, yes, that's right.
	Okay, he built the wall, walls work, and I'm going there on Saturday to look at it, and he's put the army there.
	You know, this sounds a little um a little like a little strange because it sounds like President Trump, it's a good idea.
	Yeah, I wonder where he got it from.
	Oh, you said that the other night, you know, everybody was a for it until they were against it, and they all have fences in front of the house, and yeah, but yeah, but can you believe the reddit that's out there today about Charlie?
	No, I think that's disgusting.
	I mean, I think it's absolutely horrible.
	ALC, you know, is not a good person.
	The mob, the mob that is against a Baltimore, yeah.
	But the mob that is against, you know, I watched you work with Peter Vallone, who Democratic um uh head of the city council, the speaker of the city council.
	You worked with him, and you guys would sit there, much like Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan, yeah, yeah, but he was a good man, not like uh not like uh the princess of Baltimore, yeah.
	But you learn from Nancy President, you learn from the president of the uh President Reagan on how to negotiate, and you did the same thing, and everybody gives you credit on September 11th, which is well deserved.
	Yeah, well, you deserve a lot of it too.
	Now of course you almost killed me when you push me down the bar.
	You all uh I didn't do that to you.
	This is an Irish football player, you gotta understand.
	I I I know Ted Ted took very good care of you, yeah, and and Ted uh informed the public, and Ted.
	I said, you know, the president of the American Republic asked me, How's Rudy?
	How's Rudy?
	And I sent your press release.
	Well, good, uh, and he says, Thank God.
	And Ted, how are you feeling?
	Oh, well, well, thanks for asking, John.
	It ain't about me.
	I'm fine.
	My only thought is how is the mayor doing the person in the other car?
	But I swear, I I I you know, I think the liberal media didn't believe it at first, and we were backed up by the no We literally stopped in the middle of the night.
	We see a woman on the side of the road, and this is important for folks uh to hear after what we saw in Charlotte and the inaction of every individual near that woman, Mayor Giuliani refuse it middle of the night, dark, yeah, pitch black on a highway outside of Manchester, New Hampshire, and we stopped, and the mayor was not gonna leave and had that on his conscience.
	And work what welcome to my world.
	We we would walk, uh we would drive by squeegee people.
	Oh gosh, yeah, I can't oh gosh, and he get off a 96th street on the FDR, what and we would look at squeegee people, and you know, in a very strong stern way, he would tell the police department what the hell's going on here, yeah.
	They need to go, yeah, and he would drive by a park and see rubbish, poor Henry Stern would get like Henry.
	This park looks like hell, and Henry had an answer it, but that is a leader, yes, that is a man that is on boots on the ground, and if if May Julian didn't stop that night, I'm like, nah, that's not the same mayor.
	No, that's that's not him.
	He's gonna stop, right?
	Especially for a woman or a child, yes, even an animal, he's an animal lover.
	He had he loves goalie, he loved all his pets.
	This is a man that cared for the city.
	No, we gotta John.
	This is too much.
	No, and I want to no, but this is important because John understands what I went through that night, and I haven't really gotten the detail on this, and I'm not going to right now.
	But my goodness, right?
	Every I'm I'll be honest.
	I didn't necessarily look.
	I was with the mayor, I wanted to stop as well.
	He's giving me more courage than anyone ever.
	But you know, I had my red, I had my my I had so many red flags in my head, right?
	Uh the side of the road, there's another person with a light behind her that I can't see, right?
	And I so I'm very much look, I wanted to stop.
	We saw John.
	It ended up that she was beating the guy up, so we did it.
	Yeah, that's the crazy part.
	You know what?
	She got arrested, but nobody she got arrested, he went to the hospital on an ambulance.
	One more point I have to make, right?
	Because I was asked by numerous people since that day that that night it's a crazy story.
	Why'd you stop?
	Why'd you guys stop?
	And the mayor, without skipping a beat, why wouldn't you stop?
	Right.
	She had his blood, she had his blood and his yeah, skin under her nails.
	She ripped she ripped his whole face.
	I will never forget that.
	I mean, my you gotta understand one thing.
	This is a man who had a cut budget, and the first year I was newly assigned to his detail, and I said, Sir, the protesters in front of Gracie Mansion.
	I says, I can get you in the back way, no problem.
	He goes, The hell with that.
	That's my house.
	I'm going through the front door.
	That's how he doesn't care.
	You know, exactly not afraid.
	He went after the mob, right?
	He went after Wall Street, and and he just that the man and and it made me feel so good today to see uh maybe not great, but the governor of New York come and shake his hand, yeah, right.
	But that is respect that will not be given to too many Republicans.
	And John, he gets it.
	By the way, I've been with him for three years.
	That happens everywhere.
	Oh, yeah, but the upper east side of New York, right?
	These are died in the wall liberals.
	You can just see it in them.
	And they come up and they say they miss him, they miss him.
	Not because he's Republican Democrat, like you said, because he's a leader, you know, you know, a leader, he's a leader, and it's important on this day, mayor, that we say this in your city on this day, it's important.
	You didn't just come for the city of New York or America, right?
	It wasn't September 11th, it was everything he did before.
	He took a city that was destroyed, and mayor, it breaks my heart.
	I remember it to see where things are and and the future.
	And if this this guy Mandavi wins, oh I I just don't understand how people could be that narrow sided and not understand how many cops we lost to bring back the city.
	Yeah, I feel like a Vietnam veteran at times.
	John, uh, during the time I was mayor, before September 11, we had 50 cops killed.
	Yeah, that's a lot.
	No, it's extraordinary.
	Well, we have September 11.
	The numbers get crazy, but 50 cops shot.
	That's a lot of cops who lost their lives to make the city safe.
	And for this communist to now take it back is a tragedy.
	Yeah, and and at least the police commissioner admitted that you know, uh, it wasn't COVID, it wasn't COVID.
	It was these laws the other day.
	These laws that they enacted.
	How do you have a police source go out there and do their job if they're not indemnified?
	And Bernie Carrick would totally back that.
	Bernie Carrick would be apoplectic about the way the state laws are set up.
	This is a man that took Rikers, and I was out there the other day.
	Uh, to um honor those corrections officers that lost their lives after 9-11.
	A lot of guys forget about those guys, but Bernie knew I'm gonna have they saved so many people with the Harvey unit.
	They went to Fresh Kills to Sist through the bodies, yeah.
	After the plane that crashed about a week after 9-11, they saw things that I saw at the morgue that crushed him, but Bernie had that place locked down.
	He there wasn't one corrections officer that said, my god, the mayor's greatest thing is he put Bernie Kerrick here because there was no nonsense, and the way he did it was let's take care of our guys.
	I was I was telling him a story during a speech.
	I says, I I always remember coming uh on Christmas Day, and that was one of the beautiful things you always did.
	You recognize our first responders on Christmas Day, firefighters, police officers, and our corrections officers, and you would always have cookies and go shake hands with them because they didn't have Christmas at home, and you figured, well, if they don't, I'm the leader, I'm gonna be with them, and you would deliver cookies, these trays of cookies that Jerry would make at Gracie Mansion, and you would bring it into them.
	And I says, I always remember when we went into the Bing, and I remember and they didn't like us.
	I gotta be honest.
	Yeah, it was it was probably democratic, uh on the democratic side, but I looked at the guys that worked in the Bing, and I'm going, I'm a big guy.
	I'm 6'2, 6'3, these guys towered over us, boss, and you're a big guy too.
	And we're looking at these these men, and we're going, oh my god, where did they get these guys from?
	Yeah, but they they they you know, our corrections officers, and the sad part is you know, working at Tonal Towers and what I do is what we lost since 9-11 to Kansas.
	Oh is double the number in the fire department.
	Probably ten times the number in the police department.
	Court authority.
	Corrections officers.
	What we lost and and this terrorist attack.
	And we see what's going on in the world.
	And everybody's like, oh, let's be Kumbaya.
	You know, you know, sir.
	You know, and his president Reagan said, you know, you know, there's you have to have the strength.
	And this is what our president is doing now.
	Yeah.
	President Trump and his amazing leadership.
	He stopped how many wars.
	He's done amazing things bringing businesses back to the United States.
	And he shut down the damn borders.
	Yeah.
	My border agents do it that quickly, huh?
	No.
	And our border agents are not being killed.
	We lose a lot of border agents.
	That's a very tough job.
	And most of those guys are Hispanic.
	Yeah, of course they are.
	You see them.
	You see, the head of the head of it is this man.
	Head of the Union, head of the association.
	So it's not an officer.
	Yeah, it and to look at uh agents in ice and to look at that amazing leadership in ice.
	Man, I listened to Tom speak.
	That is a guy you will follow.
	Well, John, I can't think of a better person to talk to on September 11, the guy who helped save my life.
	Well, thank you.
	And I spoke to Patty Varone.
	That's why it took me a few minutes.
	Give her a big hug, all right.
	Yeah, because I uh it's important to me to speak to you because you remember you remember when she tackled the the taxi driver.
	Oh my god, across the street to come after me because I threw Arafat out of the UN.
	Of course, his name was Mohammed.
	Well, yeah, yeah, you know how that goes.
	Like in Notre Dame uh safety, really, yeah.
	Flipped him over and had him in handcuffs when I watched these cops, you know, struggling to put people in handcuffs.
	Yeah, I think about Patty when she in one motion, she tackles him, flips him over, and puts the handcuffs on him.
	Yeah, but you know what?
	That night you showed what you stand for.
	Throwing that sort of bitch out, yeah.
	Yeah, like I don't care, and the State Department crucified you wrongly again, yeah.
	Sure, but doing the right thing.
	I am not gonna sit there and have a terrorist at a social gathering for people that want peace, and you you're like, he's gone.
	Yeah, I guess it's like we're in Ukraine, we're in Ukraine.
	We we we basically got kicked out of the country, and uh oh, I surely do you know, but you never wavered.
	I also remember in Serbia, where you they asked you about the bombings, and what did you think about it?
	And you're like, No, I back to the United States, and then all our rest of our events got canceled for the day, and I'm like, Hey boss, I think we got another issue.
	But you never waver, you speak from your heart, you speak from we're gonna do experience.
	We're gonna do just a special interview about the trips.
	Oh my goodness.
	All right, okay.
	Well, sorry God bless you.
	All right, the president's looking forward to speaking to you tomorrow.
	God bless.
	All right, God bless you.
	Ted heel, yourself.
	Bye-bye, guys.
	Thanks, John, and thank you for all you've done for the city, uh, the nation, and really the world.
	September 11th.
	Uh well, you you you I had a I had a great leader, yeah, and I had great support.
	Well, thank you, John.
	That's the way it works.
	You know that.
	Well, that's why the president's successful.
	And I have to say, mayor, the people successful, it has a great team, too.
	And the people I've I've met people that have worked with you throughout your career, uh, at different points, you know, part of your teams, and And to a person, just uh stand up, stand-up guys and women.
	Uh, and these are people I I would uh I would follow into any battle.
	I can I can say that John being one of them, and the way you talk about this man and what I've read about him.
	Uh he he is a true American hero.
	And man, they just don't make them like you and John anymore, mayor.
	They really don't.
	That's a big problem that they don't.
	And that's and that is a big problem for our country in the future.
	Oh, I think so.
	We gotta we gotta look to you and John and people like you and learn.
	When we have a president like uh President Trump, they're gonna feel they're gonna feel like they can come out of the woodwork, you know?
	Yeah, oh, absolutely.
	I think that's people are gonna find that there are more people than uh more people than you think that uh that feel that way, right?
	So let's unfortunately up.
	Yeah, we really have about 10 minutes more.
	Right.
	So let's catch people up on some of the things that they might not be told uh by the crooked media.
	Uh one one is that uh remember uh when the president was coming into office and the crooked, perverted, disgusting, lying, demented Biden uh said that he would ruin NATO.
	Well, NATO is stronger than it's ever been, they have more money than they've ever had.
	They got a commitment of five percent of GDP from every member.
	They didn't meet two percent.
	Do you do you know the difference it's already at three?
	Do you know what a tremendous uh uh ally that is for us, as opposed to a useless ally that we have to support the way the Democrats make people dependent?
	It's one thing to have a bunch of countries, and it's just really a burden for you.
	Another thing to have a bunch of countries like Israel that can fight next to you and help you win a war.
	Well, that's what's happening in Europe.
	So I think we told you last night that the Russians, and I knew they would do this, they went over the line in Poland with their drones, and they sent them into Poland.
	That's a violation of the for us of the NATO treaty.
	Any NATO country attacked, we all have to respond and help.
	Today we did.
	NATO shot down the Russian drones, every single one of them in Poland.
	And anything manned, they're gonna shoot down, also.
	Uh quick, quick answer to Putin.
	You you keep sending the and you keep sending those drones over, and we'll go into Russia.
	And it's time to let Zelensky go into Russia.
	That's it's a it's it's uh it's uh it's been too long that the Ukrainian people have been used as punching bags.
	It's time for them to punch, be able to punch back in Russia, and they could do a lot of damage in Russia and shake him up.
	Because if you think he's secure in the leadership of that country, then you got you got you don't know what you don't know anything about Russia.
	He's like Iran.
	There's no one in the last 70 years that's been in charge of Russia that's secure.
	Uh they're a very, very disturbed uh group of people.
	And you would be too if you lived under the Tsar and the Bolsheviks and Lenin and Stalin and Khrushchev, and now this murderer.
	So if you look at the map here, you'll see what happened.
	Can we put that on?
	Yeah, the time.
	So you see those little circles on the map?
	That's where the drones came over the border.
	They really came over the Ukraine border there in the south.
	The Russian border in the north looks like the Belarus border in the middle.
	And they got as as uh deep into they got about halfway into Poland in loads.
	Uh every one of them was blown out of the air by NATO, not just Poland, but by NATO forces, because they all came to the defense of Poland.
	And if they go into Lithuania, the same thing is gonna happen to them.
	And if they and if they go into uh Estonia, the same thing will happen to them.
	That's that those um Ukraine and Belarus are not part of NATO.
	Now you notice how Russia has that strange little interruption of Lithuania right on the coast of the Baltic Sea.
	That's part of Russia.
	I don't know what the hell that's doing as part of Russia.
	I don't know.
	Maybe we should go in there and just take it and tell them we'll take that for what you took in Ukraine.
	But it's time uh time to start dealing with them for what they are, which is mass murderers.
	You gotta stand up to these people.
	Notice there were drone parts found as north.
	He's going up to Norway there.
	I mean, Europe's not going to tolerate this.
	I don't I don't know what the hell he's doing, but he's turning a whole continent against him.
	I mean, he had a pretty good relationship with Europe, meaning Putin, uh, as of two years ago.
	So this this this war caused Ukraine a lot, but don't think that it hasn't cost Russia a lot.
	It's a much weaker country today than it was two or three years ago.
	I mean, it it's got the only friends that it has are communist maniacs and failing economies like theirs.
	I mean, China is a failing economy.
	Uh China's got seven, eight hundred million people that are in third, fourth world poverty.
	At some point, you got to factor that into their economy and cut it in half.
	And even at the level it's that now, our economy is double theirs.
	So uh I just don't see I just don't see the uh the point of what Russia is doing, and we can almost let him do it, except innocent people are dying.
	I mean, now it's useless.
	They're theoretically, they're on the verge of a peace agreement, and he's killing children.
	Well, is he just a is he just a statistic son of a bitch?
	I I don't know why all these people think Putin's a good guy.
	I just don't get it.
	There's nothing about him that's good.
	There's everything about him that's evil.
	And I think maybe you gotta start working at it from that point of view.
	Doesn't mean you don't talk to him, doesn't mean you don't make a deal with him, but it doesn't mean that you ever trust him or give him any leeway.
	Right.
	And there's a difference between uh being aware of someone's strengths as a strong man, right?
	And respecting them as a leader.
	You can you can make yourself aware of Putin's strengths as a strong man.
	But that doesn't mean you're not that doesn't mean you respect him as a leader or glorify him.
	If you didn't acknowledge the fact that he's a very, very strong and effective leader of his country.
	For his uh he's also dictatorial, homicidal, insane, bloodthirsty.
	Want a few more?
	Bloodthirsty through that and then a total crook.
	You said you saw it.
	Probably stole everything that isn't locked down in Russia.
	You said you felt it in his eyes when he came.
	I felt it when I met him at ground zero back in 2001.
	He came there probably late, like in early November or late October.
	He came with an entourage of about 80 cars.
	It was ridiculous.
	It's absolutely ridiculous.
	They were lined up almost to 42nd Street.
	And then he walked in, and I spent a pleasant hour with him, but it wasn't a time to be spending a pleasant hour with somebody.
	Right.
	He seemed to be one of the least concerned or legitimately affected people that was there.
	And I attribute that to his background.
	He's a he's a professional killer.
	Right.
	So the death that he was seeing didn't mean anything to him.
	It wasn't just his hatred of us, it was intellectually, he was against Islamic terrorism.
	Right.
	And I mean that just came after Chechnya.
	He was killing them like crazy in Southern Russia.
	Chechnya.
	Yeah.
	And that was just the year before.
	This idea that they got killed is just another thing, you know, they got killed, so what?
	Right.
	And I and that's one thing I I and I'm sure you would back this up as his longtime friend.
	President Trump understands that with this guy.
	He's he's he's he's not silly.
	Uh he understands who he's dealing with uh when it comes to Putin.
	Oh, and I think he's had it.
	I think the president has had it.
	You can already you can already see that changes are happening incrementally, but the hit on China is a big hit on Russia, which is that we're charging uh a hundred percent, whether you want to call it a tax or a tariff on everything from China because they are buying Russian oil, they're gonna stop buying Russian oil, they stop buying Russian oil.
	50% of Russians Russia's oil stays on the ground.
	Uh India is gonna stop even before that.
	They buy 37% of Russia's oil.
	Now we're down to about what 18%.
	They can't survive on selling 18% of their oil.
	And who the hell is gonna buy that?
	People that think they can get away with the United States fining them, taking them out of the world banking system.
	These are real threats that you and I probably don't appreciate because we don't do that level of finance.
	What I'm telling you, maybe is more devastating than a military attack.
	Because the one thing that Russian czars and dictators leads to their being overthrown is starvation.
	The people you look at you look at the Russian revolutions in the uh at the beginning of the 20th century, France, you look at the final Russian uh Soviet revolution, it was about not being able to get food, and the people and they're pretty close to that now.
	And there's gonna come a point at which China will stop subsidizing them.
	And if China stops subsidizing them, they the only way they the only way they can produce money is by selling oil at a profit.
	They are right now selling it at a loss.
	Pretty soon they're not gonna be able to sell it, and then they're gonna want Putin's head.
	And mayor that's when he acts, because the one thing he is is very practical.
	And you pointed this out, and that's why folks, shameless plug of this program.
	The mayor's telling you like it is Xi Jinping has this guy by the cojones.
	He's got Kim Jong un basically on a leash.
	And the mayor points this out.
	But the media doesn't seem to, right?
	They just show these guys in their big parade, and oh my goodness, look what Trump's doing.
	Every single weapon that Xi Jinming showed, he stole from the United States.
	Right.
	It's a knockout, it's basically a knockoff.
	And they're not they're great imitators, they're terrible creators.
	And you know this more than I, you know, with your background on that mayor.
	Our our equipment, our technology is built to last, right, in the long run.
	These they cut corners.
	Right.
	They cut corners, they want the cheapest, whatever they can get.
	Where we're our technology insurer is probably a little bit of American bias.
	There's no reason for us not to be alarmed and to say they have a bigger Navy, so we have to catch them.
	Uh they're trying to get ahead in AI, but we still are ahead, so we're gonna have to get way ahead.
	Not bad to act scared and build, but if you want the reality, they they they just I mean, they're they don't even have a battle-tested army.
	Exactly, right?
	They got to really have has it hasn't stopped fighting since the second world.
	Yeah, for better or for worse, right?
	I mean, that's a good point, Mayor.
	The the Chinese army, and my goodness, uh all we have to do is tell them, hey, Japan's around the corner and they're gonna run high.
	Um when you get the um what were those women that were dressed up in those crazy costumes?
	Are they men or what do you what do you call them?
	Come on, key queens or oh uh uh drag queens, drag queens, yeah.
	Yeah, they used to have drag queens giving lectures in the military.
	Where?
	Oh, in the in the bases here, sure, it was part of Biden.
	Oh, that's right, that's right.
	Oh my goodness.
	Oh my gosh.
	Secretary of Defense whose name Biden couldn't remember, and who was himself seemingly off the job every other month.
	Yeah, and and then uh the other one, Millie, who thought that the most important thing to get our military ready is to understand the sensitivity of transgender.
	To this to this day, I don't know.
	That really helps a guy that's gonna have to kill Russians and knowing about trans.
	I mean my goodness, just another reason.
	Can you imagine for that mean like if you're on the battlefield and you meet up with a Russian who's transgender, you don't kill him?
	You let him kill you or let her kill you.
	Can you imagine?
	Do you go in the bathroom with her?
	I don't know.
	Right.
	Uh it's absurd.
	And thank goodness we have uh military.
	Our military only has a certain amount of time to prepare, right?
	If what they're preparing for is figure out what bathroom is who they're offending.
	It's not, it doesn't exactly help.
	It doesn't help uh the concentration on the mission.
	It makes you wonder how do you get all those medals?
	I mean, Millie had more medals on that uniform.
	I mean, my goodness, the guy is like weighted down by these medals, right?
	He has every little mealy, yeah.
	Well, I I didn't know you could wear Boy Scout medals, right?
	He had all it looked like a bunch of merit badges.
	And look, I I want to be careful here.
	I didn't serve, so I don't want to be too, but he waited in the careful because he waited in the policy.
	Also, you weren't a traitor, right?
	And he was right, the worst thing, right?
	I he's a complete absolute traitor, protected by the by the left wing press.
	Well, we would have been better off if he didn't serve.
	Um well, Mayor, unfortunately, we should maybe give some updates.
	Speaking of the United States military, uh, we've been following this all evening.
	Uh a shooting on the campus of the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis.
	Um, again, we'll see if there's any updates as we close out tonight.
	Uh this follows in anything new on Charlotte.
	And we'll try to get to Charlotte as well.
	Right.
	It's been a little quiet here.
	Uh, the the US Navy cat naval academy is still on lockdown and is still on lockdown as uh military police.
	Is the guy on campus, or or is he are they searching him somewhere else?
	The latest we have here is um that Charlotte Mayor stays silent on Trump's death penalty.
	Oh what is she in favor of?
	An award for the killer, probably an award for this guy here.
	Here he is, right there.
	Put him on the thing.
	I want you to look at the one that the Democrat idiot woman mayor of uh of Charlotte.
	Uh she kind of worried about the death penalty for this guy.
	There he is, right there, and here are his accomplices.
	See these people, not a single one of them does a damn thing.
	I believe the girl's already been stabbed, yeah, because she didn't look around until after she was stabbed.
	At that point, she looks scared, but actually she is mortally weird.
	She's bleeding out, yes, and then she's eventually gonna fall down.
	Yeah.
	Now look at the three.
	I don't know what you call them.
	Certainly lacking the status of a human being on the left-hand side, since they're looking at her in a curious way as she dies.
	Afraid, afraid to do anything to interrupt.
	We can call him cowards.
	This is insane murderer.
	We can call him cowards.
	By the way, his brother disputes the fact that he's mentally ill.
	The governor treats him like good, good.
	We should give more sympathy to him than to the young girl because he's mentally ill.
	I'm sick of that.
	What the hell good does it do me if you tell me the guy is mentally ill and kill my kid?
	Yeah, he's gonna kill your kid.
	I don't give a damn if he's mentally ill.
	Get him the hell off the streets, get us execute him, get rid of him.
	It's any chance he's gonna do this again.
	Execute him.
	Enough, and we've done enough of this, and you know, with the liberal judges they elect in these places or or governors, somebody will put him out on parole.
	You know, since Cuomo signed the change in in parole and probation and all that in 2018, 42 cop killers have been released from federal penitentiary or the state penitentiary.
	42.
	These are people we were assured were gonna stay in jail for the rest of their lives.
	And at the time that we were assured it, I knew it wasn't true.
	Right.
	Because there is a sick evil tendency within many of the progressive or whatever you call them Democrats to argue for the benefits of criminals to the detriment of innocent people.
	It's one thing if you're just arguing for their benefit.
	But if you're arguing that they should be out, and every time they're out before you catch them again, they rape 10 people.
	What kind of what kind of a sick person are you?
	Well, that's your modern Democrat.
	They hate people.
	She's worried that this guy's gonna get the death penalty.
	It'll probably prevent three or four more people from being killed.
	I think they hate the and there's no way you can let this guy out on the street because the citizens are on his side.
	I mean, after he finished this, he walked down the aisle saying, I got the white girl.
	They also cover the mayor, also covered that up for two and a half weeks.
	Because that completely contradicts the narrative that the Marxist communists want to teach you that we're a white racist society.
	Gee, maybe the racism is really on the other side.
	What do you think?
	You know the difference proportionally in white on black murder and black on white murder.
	It's almost impossible to calculate.
	Basically, why whites very rarely kill blacks, and blacks routinely kill whites.
	And blacks.
	Oh, they more routinely kill blacks than anything.
	The biggest biggest cause of death to a black youngster is an older black.
	And and now, if we said that to you, I'm only saying that, so they'll fix it because you care.
	Because you care about them.
	If you fail to say it, you're never gonna fix it.
	But they'll spin that.
	You're never gonna fix it.
	And two years ago, we would we would have been kicked off of this platform for saying that.
	Yeah, we have to remember that.
	We would have been kicked off this platform for saying the truth.
	Well, mayor, we do need, I know we're we're running out of time here.
	We do, you know, we pride ourselves in giving our viewers the most up-to-date accurate information.
	We are now being told, and this is why we were right to exercise caution uh throughout news of this event, that there is no credible threat to the naval academy, and there may never have there never was potentially.
	Nobody got shot.
	So, this according to WBAL TV Baltimore, there is no credible threat to the U.S. Naval Academy.
	Uh, Governor Westmore's office said in a statement just after 9 p.m., a U.S. naval official said at 507 p.m.
	Naval Support Activity Annapolis security in coordination with local law enforcement responded to reports of suspicious activity on the naval academy grounds.
	There is no active shooter threat.
	However, one person was injured while naval security forces were clearing a building.
	One person has been metavac with injuries, they are in stable condition.
	We will provide updates as they become available.
	Uh a one person was wounded by what by naval security forces as they were.
	There's no credible threat if a person was shot.
	A midshipman who was thrown out of the academy made anonymous threats through social media using an IP address in an attempt to make it seem like he was at the academy.
	Somebody shot students were placed on lockdown out of an abundance of caution who went to the hospital, a midshipman who was sheltered in place, thought a member of law enforcement was a threat and hit him with a training weapon.
	Law enforcement then shot the midshipman who is at a hospital and expected to recover.
	So this is quite interesting, and it is it's a whole different story.
	We were right to caution.
	We were we were right to let it play out, report what we were seeing, but not reporting as fact.
	And so that's the latest, maybe an ounce of good news on what's just me.
	Yeah, we better just let it let it be put that one on reserve.
	Uh, and then a quick couple other updates.
	We just want to remind folks that the FBI has released these photos uh in relation to the horrific murder of Charlie Kirk.
	We're putting these up one more time, real quick.
	These two photos, share these with everyone you know, especially in Utah tonight and call 1-800, call FBI.
	If you have anything to report, and shoot, err on the side of caution.
	If you truly feel you have something here, give them a call.
	And then, of course, Mayor tonight, or today marks 24 years since one of the darkest days in this nation's history.
	And so we just it's important as we've done all day, and as you do on a regular basis, before it's going to be one of the darkest days in our history now with the slaughter of Charlie Kirk.
	Whether you're a Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, why was it uh we don't know for sure all of the reasons, but it's hard to believe that a lot of it doesn't have to do with free speech.
	We don't know exactly what part of that free speech irritated this person or motivated it.
	And it may be that it's just a completely insane person, and we're wrong, but it does appear as if this guy who just wanted to engage in dialogue and get us to do what we should be doing, which is talk to each other, and we're not gonna talk to each other in a completely agreeable way because we're gonna have to.
	If we did that, we would be giving up our principles.
	There's gonna be a certain amount of tension in our talking to each other, but that doesn't mean you get to kill people, which is the point that Charlie tried to make over and over again, and here he gets killed for it.
	We think again, we're not we don't have the final story on this yet.
	Looks like the Naval Academy thing, if that's correct, was about as screwed up as it gets.
	But you you know, in a way, you have to you have to you have to understand we're we're in a very difficult time where people are gonna panic very quickly, right?
	Yeah, especially yeah, people are gonna panic after Charlotte and uh Charlie Kirk and they see cadets running around and they're gonna assume the worst.
	Right.
	I mean, I mean, how can't I mean with what's happened?
	Uh but look, it caught what it caused is that whole incident with the with the cadet who appears to have been on edge number one wrongly reacting, and number two incorrectly shot.
	Yeah, right because of his actions.
	So a lot to be said there.
	Well, we'll we'll have all this for you uh tomorrow night.
	We'll we'll definitely have a full update on what's happening there.
	It's understandable that people overreact.
	But let me warn you that overreaction is dangerous.
	I try very, very hard, as Ted will tell you, even when we're reacting to it as a story, to tell everybody around me, calm down.
	Yeah, you did do that.
	Take it down.
	You go below your emotional level.
	You can analyze better if you pretend you're calm.
	If you give into the emotion of seeing Charlie shot, uh, you're never gonna have an opportunity to save his life.
	So it's really important, even in the general way in reporting these things.
	Uh, you can report it, just constantly remind people it might not be correct.
	Right.
	That's the and and and most often it's for innocent reasons.
	Sometimes it's completely staged, like when they try to cover up a Muslim doing a killing, or a transgender person doing a killing, or sometimes black on white, like they did in Charlotte, where they held the tape back for three weeks.
	I mean, that's just pure corruption.
	But most often these things happen.
	I think probably the thing in the Naval Academy happened because of confusion.
	Emergencies are inherently confusing.
	So we conclude on the 24th anniversary of September 11 by remembering them, remembering the people who died on September 11.
	The innocent people who died, because it gives you an idea of what Islamic terrorism is all about.
	Some guy opened up his computer at 8 45 in the morning, trying to get ready to work on his computer.
	All of a sudden, before he knows it, the building is shaking, and he's got 10 more minutes to live.
	For a reason that he has no idea what it is.
	What's the reason?
	The reason is that 1400, 1500 years ago, a maniac named Mohammed established this religion that told them that they should kill people in order to take over the world.
	Now many of them don't believe it anymore, but many of them do.
	And the ones who believe it don't condemn effectively the people who do.
	And instead, they'll side with Hamas over Israel.
	When in fact Hamas is part of the of their problem.
	It's affecting the way people look at all of them because they don't stand against them.
	It's a complete, it's a complete uh reversal of the way decent people should think.
	And somebody has to really, really, honestly confront this religion.
	Because it is it when President Bush, who I love and I believe did a great job after September 11.
	But when he said Islam is a peaceful religion, President Bush was dead wrong.
	It is at the core a violent religion.
	And that the violent part has to be exercised.
	And you've got to recognize that you're doing it, otherwise you'll accommodate yourself to it.
	You won't be violent, but you'll defend the people who are and try to attribute their wrongdoing to somebody else, which is what they've accomplished with it with Israel.
	So we face September 11 today.
	When I say we should never forget, it's not like the Holocaust, which is confined to history now.
	It's an ongoing threat.
	And let me just qualify that.
	The Holocaust may be confined to history, but the desire to kill the Jewish people seems alive and well.
	And we're going to do everything we can to stop that, aren't we?
	Because this has gone on too way too long.
	Of course it has.
	So pray for us.
	Pray for all of us.
	So that we can we can find enough goodwill to end up with a peaceful world that's safe for our children.
	And you can see the President Trump is focused on that.
	Laser-like.
	We haven't had a president focused on it laser-like in my memory.
	Pray for the people that are right on the front lines, like the people in Ukraine, who probably some of them get killed tonight for no reason because Putin is a homicidal maniac that we coddle.
	People are going to get killed probably in Israel on either side.
	And people in Ukraine are going to starve to death.
	So pray for them all.
	Pray for us.
	Pray for the brave souls who had a deal with September 11 and pray for the president of the United States.
	And we'll see you tomorrow night at 7 on Wendell TV and at 8 on X. God bless America.
	God bless America.
	And the love which we watched was so valiant to see.
	And the love was so clear, the monster's singing men.
	Then come through the night, and our flight was still there.
	Alright.
	Oh, see those thoughts are still good, where I'm all on my team.
	I will have you alone, I will have you here.
	I will have you here.
	Who can say where the road goes, where the day flows, only time?
	And who can say if your love grows, as your heart shows, only time?
	Who can say where your heart grows, only time?
	And who can say where your heart grows, only time?
	And who can say where your heart grows, when your heart grows, only time?
	you love God.
	Let the might be in your heart And who can say when the day sleeps If the night leaves all your heart It's our purpose to bring to bear the principle of common sense and rational discussion to the issues of our day.
	America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
	It was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
	It was Thomas Paine's common sense, written in 1776, one of the first American best sellers, in which Thomas Paine explained by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
	He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
	And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
	Because the desire for freedom is universal.
	The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind immediately.
	And it is part of the human soul.
	This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
	Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
	We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
	A country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
	All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
	But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve.
	It's because we're able to reason.
	We're able to talk.
	We're able to analyze.

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