America's Mayor Live (578): Shocking Footage of Historic Wildfires in Los Angeles & Surrounding Area
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Good evening.
It's Rudy Giuliani and this is America's Mayor Live.
And we're live from Palm Beach.
And it's a day in which on the other side of this country there are unbelievable apocalyptic fires that are just tragic to watch because you look at I guess Ted is showing you some of them now.
That looked like it was like a view from a big...
That's a home.
That's a home.
With his dog.
Oh my goodness.
Oh my goodness.
I mean, this is a footage and I'm trying to get information on this individual and family.
Well, there's somebody in there taking photo.
I mean, taking the video.
That's right.
And I have to tell you, Ted, there seem to be ways out.
Get the hell out of there, pal.
Yeah.
Is there?
Does it look like there is?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
I used to go to all the fires.
I used to go to all the big fires when I was the mayor.
I learned that from my predecessor.
Learned it through books and biographies, Fiorello LaGuardia.
Wow.
And...
I used to go to the big ones to make sure that everything was coordinated properly with the other units, with the police.
At one time, EMT was separate.
Then, of course, when there's a fire, there's an awful lot of work for a community services unit.
The people are displaced.
Whether it's a poor area or a middle-class area or a rich area, people need places to stay.
They don't necessarily have family.
You know, he used to help us a lot.
What's that?
With that?
George and Tim.
Oh, wow.
We're a wonderful man.
I'll tell you about George and Tim.
Yeah, he is.
But sometimes we'd have like 10, 12 families that didn't have a place to stay that night.
We'd pack them up and we'd take them to the Marriott.
Wow.
And he'd always find room for us.
Always.
And not only that, he'd stay there and take care of them and feed them.
What a wonderful man.
He really is.
I'm looking at it, and it's not...
We can't direct that.
But if you look back, you'll see it's not right on the building.
You see the space between the fire and the building?
That tells me off to the right, there's a way to get out.
Over there.
To the right.
I don't know what whoever is doing that is doing, staying there, in order to take pictures of it.
Like, you grab that dog, you grab the kids, you leave all the property behind.
Unless you got one thing that's so damn important that your life depends on it.
And get the hell out of there.
Yeah, that's right, Mayor.
And of course...
You know, waiting on a fire is...
It cannot be timed.
You think you're timed.
And if you're a firefighter, maybe.
Maybe.
A great firefighter has an instinct for how long...
Like a great firefighter in there would know how long he could stay.
Right.
But you don't.
Because that could just, like a flash could happen.
And you see those flames that are there?
They could just come right into the, within seconds, they could be in the middle of the house, severing the house in half.
And it's hard to tell from the angle we're looking at, Ted, it's hard to tell exactly how far away the fire is.
But this is all taking place in Southern California.
Los Angeles basically north.
Who is that?
Who is that voice?
Who is that?
That is not...
I have to tell you, that voice sounded too intelligent to be a Democrat.
So it couldn't be the mayor of...
Has the mayor come back from Ghana yet?
Our understanding is that the mayor of Los Angeles...
Has she come back from Ghana?
Has she filled up the 500?
That's right.
So the mayor, who of all countries, the mayor of Los Angeles, on behalf of the outgoing administration, which has 12 days left...
Biden screws up everything.
Right.
He sent her to Ghana for the inauguration of the president of Ghana.
She left Los Angeles having to know there were going to be these fires.
I'm going to tell you why.
They've been predicted for about two weeks.
Now, having been a mayor, I can tell you there is no way I would have left.
But I was a mayor, not a dilettante.
The fire department budget by millions.
Sympathy for what she did.
It is disgraceful and she should resign.
She should have been there.
Well, that's right, Mayor.
Particularly somebody who took $18 million from the fire department so they could get lessons from drag queens.
You really attract a lot of young guys who want to be firefighters by giving them lessons from drag queens, I'm telling you.
Right?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It really works.
DEI really works in a fire department.
Most important thing in a fire department is it's inclusive.
They don't have to be able to pick people up, go through fire.
They don't have to be strong as an ox.
They've got to be very inclusive.
You need a black one and a brown one and a pink one and a yellow one and a big one and a little one and an in-between one.
A handicapped one and a non-handicapped one.
They've got to be perfectly inclusive.
DEI. She literally took $18 million from the fire department and put it into the best fire DEI program in the country.
Let's watch her ignore questions.
But a fire department without being absent while their homes were burning?
Do you owe citizens an apology for being absent while their homes were burning?
Do you regret cutting the fire department budget by millions of dollars, madam mayor?
Have you nothing to say today?
I don't hear her saying anything.
She's not, exactly, she's not responding.
Look at her.
Elon Musk says that you're utterly incompetent.
Are you considering your position?
Look!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is like the guy in New Orleans who had to go on a boat for three days having a nervous breakdown in the middle of Katrina.
Mayor, the first time I've seen an apology for them.
She's overwhelmed.
The woman needs psychiatrically.
Do you think you should have been visiting Ghana while this was unfolding?
What the hell is she doing leading the city?
This is one of the most damning videos I've ever seen.
She's like, oh my, does that project leadership?
Do you feel confident that the city of Los Angeles has things under control?
Look at her!
This is the mayor!
This is the leader of the city of Los Angeles, just returning from Ghana, unable to speak, mayor.
Have you seen, I mean, Mike, what is your reaction to this?
My reaction to this, you go in that office.
Madam Mayor, let me ask you just again, anything to say to the citizens today as you return?
That's, I mean, I'm looking at her.
The woman's in shock.
That's the best way to describe it.
Look, Madam Mayor, just a few words for the citizens today as you return to deal with the disaster.
No, no, no.
It's a Democrat progressive, and she's...
And she's symbolic of all the Democrat progressives.
They're all like that.
David, as you say, she wasn't very keen to answer.
Citizens and apology for being absent.
My goodness.
I mean, this is a...
I didn't see her answer a question.
She didn't.
She stayed silent.
Look at her face.
She's like in shock.
I don't even know what she's doing here.
I don't understand.
You're the leader of the city.
Say something.
And don't apologize for being in Ghana to squeeze out one last taxpayer-funded party trip.
While Biden's still in office.
That's what that was about.
This is like Newsom telling the people in California they can't go out and he goes to the fanciest restaurant in California.
That's the kind of...
This is the ethos of this group of people.
They're very bad people.
I'm sorry.
It's just the way it is.
And if I'm going to help you save your lives, I got to tell you that.
I'd be more confident if she was saying anything.
Even if she was like...
She's pushing back.
Ted, I really do believe, unless she's just acting, she's in a state of shock.
Mayor, I think you're spot on.
She is in a state of shock.
Or at least she's displaying that.
And, you know, appearance is reality when you're dealing with leadership.
So the reality is she's in shock.
If she appears, she's in shock.
And her city now has to be even more frightened than it was.
I mean, she just stayed in Ghana.
It would have been better if she stayed in Ghana.
I mean, look, this is a time to bring it up.
If there is a time, this is a 180-degree difference than your response on America's Darkest Day.
And I know you don't like talking about it.
You're not going to want to say much about it.
I'm not going to compare it.
I'm not going to compare the actual events.
I feel insulted comparing it.
Of course.
I mean, I can think of mayors that confronted what she's confronted and have had wonderful responses.
This is pathetic.
And the woman should resign for the good of the people of Los Angeles.
And so should the governor.
The governor turned down a proposition where he was going to get water from the north, from the mountains in the north, that was going to be able to be used to fill his fire hydrants and his water pumpers and his airplanes to fight fires.
He turned it down.
Because he was convinced by a bunch of nutjobs that exist and surround the Democratic Party and run it.
Because they're a bunch of lily-livid cowards only interested in going to inaugurations and going to parties like Newcomb.
And he turned it down because in order to get the water, he was told it would kill the smelt.
The smelt.
They are useless fish that smell.
And I think if they died, they'd find someplace else to go.
They've been around for a long time, and gosh almighty, if we lost them, it wouldn't be the end of the world.
If you really like smelt, take pictures of them, and you can look at them forever.
But to turn down water...
For a city where water can mean life or death, as it has in the last day or two, is a disgrace.
It's a crime.
He turned it down.
So, people wondered, how come the fire hydrants don't have water?
How come the pumpers don't have water?
Why?
The first thing I said, Ted, as you remember, I said, you've got to fight it from up above.
Right.
Where are the airplanes?
Right.
They don't have water for the airplanes.
Because they have Governor, as President Trump said, Governor Newsom.
Or Governor Newsom.
He turned it all down.
Of course, the only thing he's interested in is placating the unbelievably sick interest groups to dominate that party, which is...
I don't know.
In some ways, domestically, it's even more dangerous than communist parties with the ridiculous ideas they have.
I don't know how they're going to get this under control.
Last we checked, Pasadena.
Do you know the percentage of control in Pasadena as of 45 minutes ago?
Zero.
They've been fighting the fire all day.
I think my fire department has fought the worst fires in the country.
I never remember after four or five hours being at zero.
But, of course, we had water.
We didn't have a governor who, you know, was more worried about the smelt than he was about the people.
And we had a mayor who had a brain and a conscience.
That's all you have to have, the brain and a conscience.
That's what they're missing.
But the people of California keep voting for her.
And this is what they get.
And they're going to go blame it on climate change now, which, of course, is ridiculous.
How could this fire be caused by climate change?
Climate change has been going on since, oh, since before Vivaldi vote the Four Seasons.
They changed it to climate change because they couldn't prove global warming.
And climate change you can't prove because it happens.
So it's all a big charade.
It's a fraud.
It's one of many frauds perpetrated by their Marxist background.
And it kills people, which is the tragedy of it.
So, Ted, we're going to have to keep on top of this, but I don't know if this isn't going to go from bad to worse.
Well, seeing that...
I mean, that's her coming off the plane.
That video does not inspire a lick of confidence.
To be accurate about it, she doesn't have much to do with it, really.
The city of Los Angeles is very small.
I mean, not very small.
It's 3 million people.
That's a lot of people.
But when you consider Los Angeles, Los Angeles is a sprawling suburb.
One suburb connected to another.
Well, one suburban-type city connected to another.
So we have two things to deal with.
We have the city of Los Angeles, which is contained within the county of Los Angeles, and the county of Los Angeles is much, much bigger.
And it sounds like this fire is spreading from about...
Does it go down to the airport?
So we're going to get a live map here shortly.
I wonder.
It's standing from about the middle of Los Angeles up north.
That's the way it looked.
That's right.
So she would only have jurisdiction or control over the structures in the city of Los Angeles, which is a large part, but not complete.
The complete county of Los Angeles is much bigger.
And that also creates, very often, enormous problems for the police and the firefighters in coordinating what they're doing, which is why political leadership is even more important.
Because you have, you know, San Bernardino and Pasadena, and they all have their own mayors and their own fire departments.
Pasadena looks like it's been hit very, very hard, which is where they just had the Rose Bowl parade.
We have some pictures here.
Yeah, we're playing video.
That might help.
You want to put up a map?
Well, I'm going to put up some of these pictures of before and after.
Because I think that, I think it'll give you an idea of what these people are going through.
although the video you have, I mean, you can only get an appreciation for it or if you see it.
And this is, I mean, it's very hard to believe this happened so fast too.
I guess it's been kindling or it's been developing for quite some time.
Now, here's another problem for the mayor.
This was predicted a week ago.
She had to have left after it was predicted.
That's right.
But then again, the real truth is, looking at her, I don't know if it would have made any difference if she was there or not there.
When New York City was attacked, the first terrorist attack, I wasn't the mayor.
David Dinkins wasn't.
He was in Japan.
I was elected that year mayor.
The basic feeling was it was better he wasn't there because he didn't know what the hell he was doing.
I mean, they were able to work better without him than with him.
Right.
So...
Sometimes these political people, you know, you say, well, you want leadership.
Well, you get that.
It's better if they stay away.
Yeah, it's better if they're not seen on camera.
Although her fire chief isn't much better.
Her fire chief is the one who convinced her to take the 18 million out, get rid of the firefighters, and do a DEI program.
I mean, the last place that needs a DEI program is a fire department.
You know what they have to be?
A bunch of tough guys.
My firefighters would...
More often than you would, like, get into fights and bars and stuff like that.
And the pansy press would come to me and say, are you going to fire them?
I'd say, if I fired them every time they went into a fight, I wouldn't have any fire department.
Who the hell do you think fights fires?
Guys who don't fight.
They have no understanding of the human personality.
They have no understanding of what makes a military.
We have an enemy called China.
China is training a vast army and already has a bigger navy than we have.
And at some point, they're going to want to destroy us.
We're going to need killers to save us.
I mean civilized killers and trained killers and killers who kill in self-defense, but they better be better at it than the animals who are coming at them.
And you don't do that.
You don't train them to be that way with all this craziness.
These people put in their heads, which is why our recruiting is down to nothing in the Army.
And they want to interfere with Pete Hedges, but it would completely pull morale right up because he's one of them.
So let's take a look at the screen, Ted.
Yep, it's on.
That's a house.
I think that's a house in Pasadena.
I picked that one out because I want to show you these are not all rich people.
I don't know.
Somewhere on one of the networks, whether it was CNN or...
Well, this is getting a lot of attention because it's mostly rich people.
The president who owns that house is not a rich person.
Sorry.
Okay?
The house that we saw looked like it was a rich person.
But what's the difference?
Come on.
Yeah.
That...
That's also Pasadena.
Look at it.
Two days ago.
Today.
Look how fast it can change.
That's a liquor store right in the hills two days ago today.
There's the Getty Villa.
May not be there.
That's true.
That's just an ordinary residence.
Up above Los Angeles County.
I don't know exactly where that is.
But look, it's gone.
Right?
Oh, that's the Warsaw.
I was going to do that story later, but that's the Holocaust Museum in Warsaw, Poland.
Disgusting, huh?
And we don't have anti-Semitism?
Like hell we don't.
Well, we'll be right back and...
We'll discuss something that has been brewing for quite some time and probably is coming to a major, major conclusion.
We'll be right back.
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Welcome back.
This is Rudy Giuliani.
This is America's Mayor Live.
I said this has been coming to a boiling point for quite some time, but I have to honestly tell you I didn't know about this.
And Elon Musk is being criticized for not knowing about it.
On the other hand, he is giving it attention that it's never gotten before.
Here's what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about something known as the Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs.
Now, have you ever heard of that?
Probably not.
Apparently, it's been going on in London for about, or England, not just London, for about 15 years.
And it's ubiquitous.
It's all over the place.
And Elon Musk, over the last couple of weeks, has been...
Do they still call it tweeting on X? I'm trying to not use that term.
Well, he's posting.
He's posting on X, and he's calling attention to it.
For some reason, this has annoyed this reporter, Brendan O'Neill, who actually goes about explaining that this is an actual phenomenon, that it's disgusting and it's terrible.
And it's gone on, he says, for 15 years.
It's gangs of men from Pakistan, Muslim backgrounds, and they take advantage of poor and destitute white girls.
And they specifically pick white girls and torture them over being white.
I'm just telling you what he reported.
They refer to the girls as white slags and white whores.
And they go into the poorer parts of England.
And pick them out and then use them as prostitutes and sex slaves.
As I said, it's been going on for 15 years.
It's been covered up by the police because they're afraid of riots and they're afraid of being seen as racist.
Sound familiar?
And he says here, quite clearly, officialdom often looks the other way.
They fear being called Islamophobic.
I don't know how the hell you can be Islamophobic as if what you are opposed to is white slavery or any slavery.
But in Manchester, the cops actually refused after the information was given to them to break up a gang.
And it just went on.
And rather damn, the same thing happened.
And as he says, these girls were sacrificed to ideology.
And he goes on to say it's a searing indictment.
Of hyper-racial politics.
Now, we have this going on in the United States.
At the very beginning of Biden's open borders, the question was, are these people that are coming in more criminal than even the prior group of illegal aliens that were coming in?
And the answer is yes, they are much more criminal as a matter of percentage.
Not all, but if you go back 30 years when there was vetting at the border, Even though it wasn't perfect, and even though a lot of illegals got through, it imposed a certain amount of control and made you more reluctant if you had a really bad record or you're going to bring in a lot of drugs to come in.
When the border is open wide, so everybody comes in, the vetting constitutes four questions.
The Chinese are asked four questions.
And you don't even have to worry about the vetting because you can come in between the wide spaces.
Between the various border stations.
There's 100 miles.
You don't think the cartels know how to bring in the high-value people that give them a lot of money to come in?
Well, in any event, this group was much more criminal.
And for some reason, all of these progressive Democrat mayors and governors were saying, well, they don't commit any more crimes.
And the New York Times would write it, or they don't commit any more crimes.
And Ted and I all of a sudden realize the reason they're able to say that is they lie.
You go back to Lakin Riley who broke this whole thing open and the bill passed yesterday.
It was named for her.
Originally, her murderer was described as a man from Athens, Georgia.
Do you know before that case broke how many illegal aliens were described as?
A man from Columbia, South Carolina?
Or a man from New York City?
Or a man from Brooklyn?
The man from Athens, Georgia was in Athens, Georgia for only two weeks.
He had been in a shelter in New York for quite some time with Trenderagua, the Venezuelan organized crime group.
That in three short years has become a major organized crime group in this country thanks to Joe Biden.
And he then, within a period of about four days in Athens, Georgia, was looking around for a college girl to rape, and he grabbed poor Lake and Riley and raped her and killed her.
That's when we started looking very, very carefully at all the newspapers we could get.
It's unbelievable.
I'll give you one statistic.
That'll tell you the whole story.
Two months ago, 60% of the crime in Queens was committed by illegal aliens.
They don't commit a lot of crime.
So, Elon Musk found out about this, and he made a big deal out of it.
And now they're forced to do something about it.
This guy criticizes him for not having found out about it earlier.
Where he's wrong, though, is when he says the legacy media...
Hit these atrocities from the public.
In truth, he should have known about it.
First of all, I didn't know about it.
And I read incessantly.
I don't know if I'm the most well-informed, but I'm much better than that.
I didn't know about it.
And on a crime, I read everything.
This is a story that would have...
They didn't publish this in any meaningful way.
They hid it.
Because the legacy media doesn't want to look like it's Islamophobic.
And they'll let people die so they don't have to look like they're whatever the hell Islamophobic means.
So, Elon Musk has done a real service here.
He's the first one to get attention.
And this jackass is criticizing him.
I don't know.
And in my city...
It was revealed by the police commissioner today that these numbers are absolutely frightening.
Since New York under Andrew Cuomo passed the bail law, which allows people basically to just go out no matter what crime they commit, except maybe murder.
Originally, even beating up a police officer was going to allow you to go out without bail.
Bragg had to change that.
Bragg is the DA in New York, who was put there by George Soros, who's two or three million dollars.
He is a complete criminal, and he is responsible for more deaths in New York City than any district attorney in history.
District attorneys usually prevent death.
He creates it.
So, since 2019, before that law was passed, This is what's happened to felony assault.
It's gone up 146%.
Not only has it gone up 140, you know, it's actually gone up 146%.
Somebody who commits three in one year.
So, people who commit three burglaries in one year, from 2019 to 2024, have gone up 61%.
People who commit grand larceny, 71%.
People who do shoplifting, 64%.
Auto theft, 118%.
And felony assault, 149%.
What I said was three in one year.
Now, how can they commit three in one year?
Because we let them out to do it again.
We're recycling the same criminals.
It's called career criminals.
It was discovered in a scholarly way by Professor James Q. Wilson of Harvard in 1981. He wrote it in the Attorney General's Task Force on Violent Crime Report in 1982. Since then, most sensible police departments have had career criminal programs.
Not one that has a progressive Democrat mayor, though.
That is unfair.
These people believe you create more crime if you put them in jail.
Not with these numbers, you know.
And this is Andrew Cuomo who passed this.
Who now wants to run for mayor?
That is after having left the governorship in a scandal, the depths of which have not at all been probed.
We are hoping all of this is going to be changed really quick.
And we think the place it's going to change really, really quick is in immigration.
Because President Trump...
I've never seen a president-elect do this.
He's actually making changes, not just in the United States, but in the world, before he's president.
There's no doubt that he got Pierre Trudeau thrown out.
I mean, Pierre Trudeau was kind of sneaking by with whatever he does there.
And then Trump started...
What would you call it?
They said he's trolling on him?
You could say trolling, but I really do think there's a strategy behind it.
And you know the president much better than I do.
We're going to have Caroline on in a minute.
But I wonder, was he doing it on purpose or was it the collateral consequence of making a fool out of him?
It's a mixed bag, right?
I mean, Trudeau hasn't done any favors for himself the last few years.
Look, I know a little bit about Canada, being from Michigan, right?
It's a border state.
Stephen, a good friend of the show who helps out, knows Canada very well.
So Stephen would be a good person to get to maybe talk to about this during a segment soon.
But Mayor, President Trump, as you've said and you've been talking about tonight, the influence he's already exerting on the world stage goes to show how strong of a leader he is.
It also just shows how weak.
It's a combination of both.
I mean, no matter how strong you are, if the actual president in charge is a real president, you really have to wait.
You really have to wait in order to do things.
But I think the world, whether they like it or not, or whether they realize it or not, they've been waiting for an American president.
I don't know that they could articulate it this way, but they haven't had an American president.
Even a fairly inadequate one for the last four years.
They've had a Wizard of Oz who has some group of people behind a curtain who are making the decision and we still don't know who they are.
Right now, if he decides that he's going to attack something or not attack or cut down more energy opportunities, I don't know who actually is making that decision.
I doubt it's him.
He doesn't look like he can make a decision.
Trudeau?
No, no, no.
Biden.
Oh, God.
Yeah, you're right.
Bingo.
Let's see if there's a video here of him recently.
But you're right, Mayor.
And I think most people at this point just kind of...
I mean, here's his...
It's still a short period of time to go, but it's still very dangerous.
My goodness.
Let's see if we can...
See if we can play some video here.
Maybe we'll play it with our friends at Fox.
Maybe they have a video of it without.
Here we go.
I'm sure she's fighting the fire.
Well, this was his big announcement to the good folks of California who are currently facing...
What did he announce?
He's a great-grandfather!
He chose his...
Press conference, right, at the time.
All these people in California, they're not dealing with anything else.
He's going to remember this tape for a lot of wrong presences.
Anyway.
He's joking about having a grant.
Listen to this.
We'll get some headphones for you.
It sounds like a future.
- The good news is I'm a great-grandfather, as of today.
I was a granddaughter.
Ten-pound boy, baby girl, baby boy.
- Oh, isn't that nice? - He's gonna remember this day for a lot of rock reasons. - And he laughed. - I remember this day for a lot of rock reasons.
Well, as we demonstrated last night, he's been shot since 2019 when his son told the psychiatrist that his father was deranged and he'd get anything past him.
And that's on the hard drive.
That's on the hard drive.
So all these people should be investigated for covering it up.
Of course.
It's a horrible crime.
I mean, to cover up a president who's incompetent when a president has the capacity to destroy the world is one hell of a crime.
Right.
And it's impossible that the first stepmother and the rest of them, or Blinken, didn't know.
I mean, we played Schumer last night just a few days before he, you know, he blanked out saying that he's brilliant and he's sharp as ever.
I mean, just a complete liar.
Mayor, it'd be funny.
It'd be funny if it wasn't such a serious matters.
Well, that's been the problem throughout.
Every time you see him going way back when he does these things, I mean, there's this tendency to laugh.
Because it's so stupid.
But here, it'd be fine if it was just an ordinary person.
It would be both funny and sad.
But when it's the President of the United States, it's of the utmost seriousness.
And not treated that way.
Well, we're going to take a short break.
And then we'll be back with Carolyn.
Not quite yet.
We'll talk over the break.
We actually have a guest by Zoom.
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That's right, Mayor.
We have a very special guest now.
We're going to bring on Andrew Sorcini, the founder of www.bh-pm.com, and we'll let him share more.
Welcome to the show, Andrew.
Hello, Andrew.
Good to talk to you again.
Yeah, Happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
We're doing good over here, despite all the fires that you're probably seeing on the television.
It's unbelievable what's going on out here.
So how are...
He's out there.
He's in L.A. Where are you in L.A., Andrew?
So we're in Beverly Hills.
So we're about 10 miles from all of the activity that you're seeing on the news.
But it's so bad.
It's the worst I've ever seen.
Is it north of you?
It would be west.
West.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, so...
About 10 miles?
Yeah, so I'm sure you've been out this way.
Oh, yeah, I know it fairly well.
Yeah, you would take Sunset Boulevard to the ocean, and that's exactly where the Palisades Fire is at.
And it's a very big one.
It's destroyed more than half of the entire town.
It looks...
We were putting on film of it, and we were also putting on comparisons of what places look like two days ago and today.
And they're just entirely destroyed.
Yeah, it really is unbelievable.
It's going to take years and years for them to rebuild, and then also they'll get their home insurance canceled because they're in a fire area, and once they pay the claim, that's it, done.
How much warning was there about this?
Well, we actually did have...
Let's see.
It was the night before on the television.
They actually said that there was going to be potentially deadly winds, and they were exactly worried about the fires, like the potential for fires.
So they're doing everything they can, but it's 0% contained on the three big ones that they have right now.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's something else.
We have you here to try to tell people how they can protect themselves.
Yeah.
Maybe the most confusing time they've ever lived through, kind of regularized a little bit by what happened in the election.
But still, you know, it's going to take a while for everything to settle in and people to be able to make choices they feel comfortable with.
And any advice you can give us.
Given your background, we would appreciate tremendously.
Yes.
Well, thank you.
I'm more than happy to explain what I believe is going on here.
So I'm not sure if the audience knows, but the BRICS nations, which are led by Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, and a whole slew of other countries, they've banded together.
To de-dollarize the entire globe.
And they're coming out with something called the central bank digital currency that's going to be gold-backed.
And luckily, Donald Trump did win the election, and he does understand this.
And to quote him, he says that for the dollar to lose its status as a world's reserve currency, that would be greater than losing any war.
The way that we spend money now with dollar bills and coins, that's completely going away.
It's all going to be done digital.
So as we go gold-backed, you're going to want to have physical gold and silver in your portfolio.
And January is a good month to really take a look at all of your investments out there and figure out what changes need to be made.
So we've helped thousands of families.
So, of course, Mayor, we know that 2024 was gold's best year since 2010.
Andrew, why is Wall Street expecting gold to go even higher in 2025?
Yeah, so in 2024, gold went up 27%.
And like you just said, it's the biggest gain in a year since 2010. So lowering interest rates makes the money cheaper to borrow.
And when they make the money cheaper to borrow, then that causes inflation and possibly leading to hyperinflation.
And when inflation sets in, then gold tends to go up in value when that happens.
And I talk a lot about gold.
What's good for gold is actually great for silver.
Silver has a better chance to double or triple in price than gold does.
But we have like J.P. Morgan.
Silver has a greater chance than gold.
Oh, to double or triple in price.
Wow.
Absolutely.
The silver has been suppressed by the big banks like J.P. Morgan Chase.
And they own the biggest hoard of silver of anybody out there.
They have like 600 million ounces.
And I guess people think of gold first.
They think of silver.
They're not as certain about silver.
So how does one get started?
Well, you would reach out to us.
In a way that they feel comfortable.
Okay.
So if they go to the web address, it's right there on the screen.
And all of the different pages on our website have a form on it.
And you can put in your first name, last name, email address, phone number.
And there's a note section there.
And right above the note section, it says, how did you hear about us?
Just say that the mayor sent you.
And in the notes section, be as detailed as you can.
So, for example, people actually reach out to us to be able to convert the retirement accounts into precious metals IRAs.
They can do this without it being a taxable event.
So if you're wanting to understand how that works, then just put that in the notes section.
I would like to know how to roll over my retirement account.
To hold physical gold and silver.
And then one of my associates will reach out to the people within about 24 to 48 hours.
And it's important that people know that this is not a high pressure deal.
So we like people to make informed decisions, and sometimes people can't make those on one call or even two calls.
So reach out to us, and we're going to handle you well.
And we're vouched for by some of the biggest names out there, including the mayor.
General Flynn is a good personal friend of mine, and he's a company spokesperson as well.
And we've toured all around the country with the Reawaken America Tour.
We've got a lot of the same friends in common.
You do, and that's another important thing.
Yeah.
I hate to say it, but given what's going on, we have to stick together.
You do, because when you make a mistake in investing, it costs money.
And a lot of the people that trust us to handle their gold and silver purchases are retired, so they don't have the opportunity to go back out there and make new money.
So it's important that you get it right the first time.
So, Andrew, can they take part?
Or all of their retirement.
They don't necessarily have to do all at first.
Correct.
Let's say they have 500,000 or a million.
They could give you half of that and see how it goes and then give you more.
Yeah, and oftentimes that's how it works.
So the whole idea of doing this is kind of a new concept to most of the people out there.
So they will do maybe a couple hundred thousand, roll that over.
And then they'll see on the news that gold's making new highs or that silver's on the move.
And then they'll reach out and say, hey, I want to roll over another hundred thousand.
And once the account is established, you can take money out of it anytime you want.
You can add to it.
And for people out there that take distributions or a few...
If you have an emergency and you need to dip into it, we help with that as well.
Well, Andrew, I want to thank you very, very much.
Given all that's going on, taking some time to give some help to our people.
And please, anything we can do, you can get me or Ted.
And I've had a lot of experience with emergencies and helped out in fires and anything you need.
Please let me know, alright?
Yep, we will reach out to you.
Nobody's done a better job in an emergency.
Thank you very much, Andrew.
We'll talk to you next week.
Yep, thank you.
God bless.
Wow, what a shame.
And thank God he had a chance to talk to us.
Right?
Ten miles away, huh?
My goodness.
And I just got up.
You know, we're talking to some folks on the ground.
We want to make sure they're prioritizing their safety over wanting to report.
And get video.
So we're talking to a number of folks, Mayor, so we hope to have somebody that can give us some live reporting on the ground in Los Angeles, Santa Monica, that area.
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The fastest hour on the internet.
Unbelievable.
Absolutely right.
Absolutely right.
But I have something to report that you're not going to read anywhere.
They even have just a little piece in Michael Goodwin's column in the Post.
This should be a major headline.
The sleazy Penn Biden Center, which China funded, to the tune of $68 million.
Paid money to the Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken, little baby Jake Sullivan, whatever he was, national security idiot, and other Joe Biden associates.
Now, this is one of the places where it was reported that Joe Biden put the classified documents he stole.
No investigation.
None.
$68 million from Red China?
Funding a Penn-Biden center?
Not a conflict?
Not a bribe?
What's wrong with this?
How unfair is our system of justice that Donald Trump will get sentenced on Friday for a crime?
That he's never charged with.
They never told him what the felony is that he's charged with.
And the crooked judge just went ahead with the case.
Then he gave the jury multiple choices.
And then he allowed a non-unanimous verdict, which is the first one since the Magna Carta 800 years ago.
And this guy gets $68 million from our biggest enemy.
Oh, this is just a part of it.
How about the $31 million he got through his son, who said, I give half my income to my father?
Ignored.
If we don't hold them accountable for this, they'll continue to do it.
Not just them.
You think they're the only crooks in the Democratic Party?
Why do you think they cover it up?
Why do you think the other Democrats cover it up?
Why do you think Nancy Pelosi covers this up?
Because she and her husband have raped us through insider trading, and who knows what else.
She's become a multi-multi-millionaire.
Trading on information that if you did it, you'd be in jail for 25 years.
That's okay.
I mean, they're allowed to do it.
And Trump is going to get sentenced for a crime he was never, not only convicted of, Never charged with.
Not only has Trump had an influence on Trudeau and gotten rid of the little baby, but the other little baby in Europe, Macron, has changed his tune completely about Iran.
He was real worried we were pressuring Iran too much, and oh my gosh, Israel.
Israel is killing all those civilians.
Oh, my goodness.
Now Macron wants to crack down on Iran!
I think they gave him four days of Trump testosterone, and he grew a pair of, well, probably not.
But he's in favor of putting the sanctions back on Iran.
When we say the sanctions, these are the snapback sanctions.
Last time we had them on Iran, they were crushed.
Do you know how much money Biden put into Iran?
Over $100 billion.
Oh, yeah.
And what do they use the money for?
To kill our friends.
And to kill us.
We give them money to kill us.
Something wrong with that, right?
Hopefully that's going to get straightened out also.
So here I want to ask you, Ted.
And I want you to think about this, because this is a question I'm not absolutely sure of.
So the New York Post surprised me with an editorial saying that Trump should not give blanket pardons.
He should do it on a case-by-case basis.
Talking about January 6th.
He says that they say that some of these people, we don't say who and how many, attack police officers.
And they posed a threat to the safety of Vice President Trump, Vice President Pence rather.
I don't.
Like hell they did.
And others.
Vice President Pence knew exactly what the hell he was doing.
The passive, aggressive, whatever you want to call them.
But some Capitol Police were beaten and some were injured.
Not anywhere near the lies that were told about it, like the phony police funeral where they had him lying in state, like Jimmy Carter, who died of a heart attack a day after, and not of anything having to do with January 6th, according to their coroner.
And they have a big funeral for him, but they ignore the first-degree murder of Ashley Babbitt, and we ain't going to rest until her.
See this here?
Every time I go in front of the crooked Biden judges, I wear this.
And I try to keep it out.
It's like keeping the evil eye away from you.
Anytime I go before Judge Howell, which I will do on Friday, or the Judge Lyman, who rendered the decision in my case, virtually two minutes after I finished testifying.
And he had to had to be written before.
Now think about how disgraceful that is.
My testimony meant nothing.
I don't know why I gave it.
He wrote the opinion before.
It's like what James Cardinal Comey did.
He wrote his opinion about Hillary Clinton being innocent before he interviewed her.
What did he have to interview him for?
Now, this guy Lyman wants to give me a trial in a couple weeks, two days before the inauguration, on whether I have a homestead in Florida.
I don't know how the hell he would know.
He's not a Florida judge.
And number two, what should happen to my rings, my Yankee rings, which I gave to my son?
Why should I have a trial?
Why doesn't he just write his opinion?
The other one we did, he had his opinion written before we had the hearing.
He produced it, you know, in a flash after it was over.
So why are we doing this crap?
I know you're crooked.
You're not fooling me.
This whole case has been produced by Joe, Hunter Biden's law partner.
Michael Gottlieb, who was a lawyer for the crooked company that I uncovered, Burisma.
And this whole case is a travesty of justice, 100%, from top to bottom.
And they were able to get two judges by bringing it rather than in Georgia, in the District of Columbia, and to get a jury that, if you're a Trump person, you know...
You've got to hold them back from lynching you.
100 cases, I think, went to a jury in the District of Columbia with J6 defense.
Everyone convicted.
Some of them, whatever the New York Post wants to say about some of them hitting police officers, many of them did nothing.
And even the Post acknowledges that.
Some of these convictions reek of politics.
No kidding.
And all too many defendants were denied proper due process.
Every single one was, by the way.
But a riot is a riot.
And rioting in the U.S. Capitol and the presidential election is being finalized is particularly vicious.
Except they didn't say it was noxious.
They said it was Pearl Harbor.
They said it was like a civil war.
It was like 9-11.
They said a cop got killed who didn't.
And they held a funeral for him, a state funeral.
This was an orchestrated attempt, like Russian collusion, like hiding the hard drive to destroy Donald Trump, orchestrated by Pelosi, probably McConnell, with the significant help of Vice President Pence.
Was it really a riot?
We know what a riot looks like.
They're burning buildings.
Those happened in 2020 under the auspices of Harris and Biden and Soros.
All those places had Harris, Biden, and Soros people.
And every one of those buildings burned down.
Any buildings burned on January 6th?
No?
So, whatever you call January 6th, it was less than what they did.
Oh, by the way, less than what all the students did this summer at Columbia and elsewhere, where they burned buildings down.
Was anything in the Capitol burned?
I don't think so.
uh When you see the tear gas and the smoke and stuff like that, that comes from the police.
Outside, on the crowds, which actually caused the pandemonium.
And by the way, Ashley Babbitt's not the only one they killed.
A woman who was crushed by the cops, who never gave a proper aid, and two others.
No cops died.
I'm going to be seriously injured, really.
Do you know the guy who killed her got paid a lot of money and then was complaining he didn't get paid enough?
I mean, like $50,000, $100,000?
So I don't know, Ted.
He would have to go through, the President of the United States would have to go through $1,250.
Absurd.
I think you're...
Mayor, I do say that they didn't get due process.
So even if you're guilty, if you don't get due process, your case is reversed.
Yeah.
And look, I... They've already been punished.
They've already been punished.
I don't trust a lot of the charges and how they came to be.
And so...
Mayor, we've got a stage...
Yeah.
How come they have never...
Why doesn't the New York Post examine what the 240 Antifa people were doing inside the Capitol, which is acknowledged by an email two days later by John Sullivan about James Sullivan?
And has that ever been in the New York Post?
No!
So stop your bullshit!
There's nobody that feels more strongly about people should be punished for hitting cops.
But these have been punished already.
In New York City, they wouldn't have served any time like this.
And they certainly wouldn't have served it in prisons that look like prison camps.
These people were virtually tortured by the D.C. court, which should be disbanded.
It doesn't belong in America.
It belongs somewhere in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia or Red China.
I've been a victim of the worst judge in the D.C. circuit, and I'm going to see her again on Friday.
That could be a happy reunion.
Her hatred is so great, she can't even keep her eyes straight.
She was unhappy that the other judges weren't tough enough.
When you look at this really carefully, most of what you see are very ordinary Americans walking through the Capitol, in some cases cheering, in some cases a little excitement.
I don't see much destruction of property.
The major destruction of property on the main film is done by Sullivan, who's an operative of CNN. Got paid by them.
He broke in.
Not only that, he encouraged people the day before to go there and crash into the Capitol.
He encouraged people days before that to come to Washington and take Trump out, which is a threat on the life of the president, for which he wasn't arrested.
None of this was looked at by the J-6 committee, by the crooked D.C. court.
By the crooked D.C. District Attorney's Office?
Now there should be an investigation of all of them.
They disgraced America.
This will be, in our history, of equal import, of equal disgrace to the internment of the Japanese during the Second World War.
And it'll be worse.
Because there you have to assume there's a certain degree of fear and a certain degree of confusion, given the fact that they were attacked.
Here, it was completely orchestrated by the FBI, by the 240 Antifa people inside that have never been acknowledged or identified, and by Nancy Pelosi, her Hollywood daughter, her crew.
Tense.
But all his phony excuses and his lies.
Boy, you watch the Professor Eastman movie and you get a real sense of what that guy is worth.
That's right.
That's right.
We want to...
What was it?
Eastman's Dilemma.
We'll put it...
We'll put that...
There you go.
Stephen's got it down.
We'll...
We'll plug that for sure.
Mayor, I know we just have a few minutes left.
We're awaiting for a live report from Thousand Oaks, California.
So we're hopeful we can get that in before we sign off for the night.
Again, the big story of the day.
And we talked about this throughout the day today, Mayor.
The wall-to-wall coverage on all the cable news.
However, very little discussion about the absent mayor or the plethora.
Of reports that we're hearing on mismanagement, which you've talked about tonight, from the reservoirs to these hydrants running out of water.
President Trump...
When the mayor returned and had her press conference, you actually had to say to yourself, maybe it was better she wasn't there.
She looked like she was in a complete state of shock and that she had no idea what she was doing.
Now, this is the mayor who took $18 million out of the fire department so they could have DEI lessons.
Firefighters.
So they could more sensitively save you during a fire.
That's right.
What kind of a jackass is she?
And her fire hydrants didn't have...
Does she know that fire hydrants are supposed to have water in them?
They're not like...
Street decoration, Mayor.
We used to check them all the time.
We used to move them around.
Because at times, you know, cities change.
And your fire hydrant can be in the wrong place.
But you don't really change them.
But you fill some up.
You fill some up more.
You have excess water.
Wow.
Well, Mayor, we have our guest on the line.
We want to welcome to the show Katie Zachariah.
I hope I pronounced that right.
Apologies.
We are doing this.
Of course, we were able to get her on in short notice, so we want to thank her for that.
Katie, welcome to America's Mayor Live.
Thank you very much, Katie.
Where are you?
Well, I'm just north of Los Angeles County in Westlake Village.
And how far away from the fires?
Well, we are about 25, 30 minutes north of the fires.
And just last month, we were about 20 minutes south of the fires.
Oh, my.
Just a couple weeks ago, we were two weeks east of the fires at Pepperdine, if that gives you any indication about the fire situation in California.
Is this worse?
This is worse, the devastation in terms of cost and amount of buildings and acres burned.
I will say, however, the one in Somers North was a lot of farmland that was, you know, taken out.
And this is residential and business, it looks like.
Residential and commercial and very, very high-end residential in the Pacific Palisades.
Yes.
I saw that.
But I also saw some very ordinary homes that went up.
I mean, the fire didn't discriminate.
It just went right through.
Yeah.
Though they look ordinary, they're probably upwards of five to ten million dollars because of where they're located, whether it's just, you know, just east of the ocean or anywhere in the Palisades or along PCH. Malibu, Santa Monica are just astronomical prices.
What is the prognosis about how this is going to go, or do they know?
We are completely reliant on the winds dying down here in California.
I'm a native Californian.
The Santa Ana winds come every year, and we are really at the mercy of when they die down, whether or not the firefighters can get the fires under control.
What about the lack of water?
This seems like a perennial problem that a responsible governor and government would have solved a long time ago.
I sure as hell wouldn't have lived with this.
Yes.
In fact, Gavin Newsom, Karen Bass, really all of our reps.
Former Senators, Kamala Harris, these people are all responsible for what has happened here in Los Angeles County.
The lack of planning, again, like I said, this is not a surprise.
This happens every year.
I went to Pepperdine every fall, every January, February, we would get these wins and the fires would come through.
So this is a lack of planning, but actually it's gross negligence.
It's really taking a situation, understanding What can happen?
And then failing to act and not doing anything about it for years on end.
Not just water, but also deforestation.
The Reagan Library is not that far away from me.
I was on the board for 10 years of the Reagan Library.
I know it really well.
And I did my first presidential debate there.
Oh, you did?
How wonderful.
So you're familiar with all the brush.
Oh, I know the Reagan Library intimately.
I said I was on the board for 10 years.
Yeah, and what the Reagan Library ended up doing is they hired a pack of goats, 700 goats, that go around their property and eat all of the brush.
Basically eat their weight in gold, right?
And they prevent, you know, they put a 150-foot perimeter around the entire Reagan Library.
So if a fire does come up to the Reagan Library, it's going to be protected by this perimeter.
And these are very small things that Gavin Newsom could have done in the state of California to help diminish the amount of land that's burned.
Oh, my.
But is the Reagan Library...
Despite that in jeopardy?
No, the Reagan Library is not in jeopardy.
And there was a flare-up just near it not that long ago.
But again, this perimeter that they've created with their goats and also the fact that it was in a different location and the winds have died down significantly.
They have now died down?
They have died down.
Yesterday was gale-force winds.
Yeah, we saw that.
And absolutely, the oak trees and everything just blowing crazy, winds blowing open, windows shattering, but they've died down since.
Well, you take care of yourself.
How are you?
Are you safe?
Yeah, we're safe.
Santa Monica on the south side of Pacific Palisade is under mandatory evacuation, which is a scary thing because they're also a very urban, dense area.
Santa Monica is under evacuation?
Yeah, Santa Monica.
Gosh, my daughter lived in Santa Monica.
Yeah, and the truth is, is if they had had water and they had elected, perhaps, you know, Rick Caruso to be mayor of this city, we might be facing a different situation right now.
She doesn't seem...
When I saw her before, she looks like she's in a state of shock.
Karen Bass?
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I have been through massive emergencies, and I've seen people in shock in emergencies and had to take them out, not just 9-11, but during big fires and train derailments.
I mean, some people go into shock, and I'm not unfamiliar with it.
That woman looks like she should be getting treatment.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Well, she flew in from Ghana, where, to be honest, as the mayor of a city, and I'm sure you would have been there, you would have been in the city if you had had, you know, two or three days advisory notice that these winds would be coming.
She knew that it would be coming and she didn't make any adjustments to her schedule.
She failed to appear when these winds came and didn't act.
And not only that, but the fire hydrants were empty and there weren't enough resources.
She, in fact, cut.
Fire hydrants were empty.
Fire hydrants are empty, and she cut 17, I think it was 17.6 million in firefighting budget in L.A. County.
17.6 million.
Again, this is gross negligence to me.
Well, you know, she looks like she knows it.
I mean, she's in shock.
I'm not sure, Katie, if you can see our screen.
You can't see her, but you take a look.
Take a look later at her press conference, in which I don't think she answered any questions.
She wasn't capable of opening her mouth.
Mayor put it right.
She looks legit like she's in shock.
Check out the face on her.
She's sitting there.
Reporters are peppering her with questions.
No affect.
No affect at all.
Which is usually what happens when you're in shock.
How is the mayor of a great city, how do you look at that?
Are you disgusted by that response?
I look at it as she's a disgrace.
Because you don't get to do it twice.
You know, an emergency happens, and you've got to be up to it or not, and if you're not, people die.
Because of her, people die.
If she didn't have those fire hydrants filled with water, people had to get injured, houses gone, people die.
The governor, you know, not taking care of this problem.
I mean, President Trump put out today the thing about how he didn't agree to water diversion because it would affect the schmuck.
The smelt fish.
The smells?
The smelt.
I know, smells sweet.
They stink.
Yeah, it's incompetence.
It's incompetence.
Yeah, it's a tragedy.
But you take care of yourself, and thank you very much.
That was a very, very good report.
Very helpful.
And maybe we'd like to check in tomorrow.
Yeah, we would very much like to talk to you tomorrow, okay?
I'd love to join.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you.
You were very good.
Thanks, Katie.
Excellent report, and we'll be back tomorrow.
I think we add to our prayers where we normally always pray for the people of Israel and the people of Ukraine and the people of Iran, who it sounds like there's a real chance we may get a breakthrough in Iran.
But, okay, that's for another day.
But let's pray for the people of California, huh?
Affected by this.
This has to be frightening as hell.
Even if you're 10 miles away, I mean, and the winds have died down in the middle of the night.
They could just come your way.
Incompetence is not a strong enough word.
We're going to have to think about the right word for that.
I mean, it's actually criminal.
If you're not up to being a public official, You shouldn't do it.
People's lives are in your head.
That woman is not up to being a public official.
And you say, well, just one test.
Yeah, it is one test.
It very often is one test.
You can be in office for four years and not face anything.
And then all of a sudden, one thing defines should you be a mayor or a governor or a president or not.
He needs to be in a hospital.
I'm telling you, she's in shock.
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