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May 16, 2024 - Rudy Giuliani

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America's Mayor Live (E409): Michael Cohen's Former Attorney: "He Told Me He Had Nothing On Trump"

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	Good evening and welcome to America's Mayor Live.
	And tonight we are in Palm Beach and keeping up with all of the developments and all the things that we try to dig out that we're afraid you're not going to get from the phony Press that we have in this country and the massive censorship so that things that are important aren't reported to you.
	But let's first take a look at where the trial is in New York, which is an embarrassment to American justice.
	I mean, the appearance of the witness Cohen probably was like the piece de resistance.
	This is a man who the federal prosecutor didn't think was worthy of using as a witness because he's a consummate liar and actually went to court at his sentencing and told the judge that.
	This is a person who lied at least seven times before the Congress.
	Lies that were provable by tapes and confessions and Of course, the crooked Democrat congressman just let him go.
	Bennie Thompson, who warned him at the beginning of his testimony that should he commit perjury, he'd be like hung.
	And in fact, he immediately committed perjury.
	He said that he had never asked for a job in the White House, trying to show that he wasn't bitter, which is probably the main motivation that's driving him, his jealousy that he didn't get a job in the White House.
	And then, you know, that's contradicted immediately by a tape recording of him two days after the election telling Chris Cuomo that he wanted to be chief of staff, and he was going to be chief of staff.
	And then followed by about 10 witnesses, including yours truly, to whom he came and virtually begged us to try to get him a job with President Trump.
	The turning point, the bitterness Uh, that went from, uh, what was the truth, which, uh, Bob Costello, I think related, uh, as his lawyer to, uh, his, um, ridiculous statements about, uh, what happened, uh, happened because he was bitter and angry and he wanted, he wanted money.
	And, uh, this has been his whole life.
	How, how a legitimate prosecutor could rely on someone like this.
	Um, I mean, the proof really is very simple.
	This case was presented to the Justice Department, Biden's Justice Department.
	It was presented to the United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York.
	It was presented to Bragg's predecessor.
	They all decided there was no case to prosecute and no witness you could rely on.
	And then Bragg made that decision when he first came into office.
	And then two of his Two of his prosecutors, who are afflicted with a serious, serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome, which deprives you of reason, common sense, and a conscience, they wrote a book, a sensationalized book, that actually just about admits that it isn't a crime, but he should be prosecuted anyway.
	And then, of course, what happened, and I can tell you this almost with certainty, The Biden White House coordinated this case with the case in Atlanta.
	Remember all the two trips to Washington by Fannie's lover boy?
	And Smith, of course, was pulled out of who knows where, out of someplace where he was hidden after his terrible, disgraceful reversal.
	of a case in which he framed the governor of Virginia with a 9-0 reversal by the Supreme Court, and Garland got exactly the prosecutor he wanted, a crooked one, who brought two cases that are equally as dishonest, dishonorable, and don't charge a crime.
	So now we have four of them in one year, and the clear purpose of them is not to To prosecute serious wrongdoers.
	And none of these things are serious, actually.
	But to prevent him from being president of the United States.
	And this is their fourth or fifth try.
	Why anyone has a doubt about that is really amazing.
	I don't know how many times they have to do it so that the crooked press realizes that their desire to stop Trump is so great that they will resort to anything.
	Russian collusion.
	They were lying.
	We were telling the truth.
	The hard drive was the product of Russian espionage and had earmarks of Russian disinformation.
	No, no, no.
	The FBI actually determined long before those False allegations were made that the hard drive was quite legitimate, it was Hunter Biden's, and it just about presented airtight cases of about 40 to 50 different crimes, amounting to a monstrous amount of money taken by the Biden family, as Hunter in his own words says, over a 30-year period.
	Hunter Biden explains to you that for 30 years, he explains to you, on the hard drive, which they keep from you, That for 30 years, he's been paying all the expenses in the family and giving half his salary to his father.
	Hunter Biden texted that to his daughter, but that's rarely mentioned.
	So this case is going forward in New York.
	So far, it's the strangest I've ever seen.
	I mean, actually, the state has proven Not only that they don't have a case, they've actually proven that he's innocent.
	That rarely happens.
	Now, let me tell you how.
	The false statement that's at the core of the case is that the accountant or some accountant or some bookkeeper wrote down about the $450,000 payment to Cohen that involved legal expenses.
	$450,000 payment to Cohen that involved legal expenses.
	Well, it did.
	It involved payment for technological services, about 60 grand, taxes, other legal work,
	and the money that was used to settle a case described by the lawyer in the case,
	her lawyer, as consideration.
	Bye.
	And the description, legal expenses, is perfectly correct, honest, You certainly couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it's false.
	Any reasonable accountant, bookkeeper, or whatever looking at those expenses would put down legal expenses.
	There isn't enough room on the little box for the entry to put down all the different things it was for.
	It was paid to a lawyer with a number of items and And by the way, all of this is about an 11-month misdemeanor that is rarely charged, never results in anyone going to prison.
	And the statement turns out to be not even just arguably true, true.
	And finally, it's barred by the statute of limitations because it happened too long ago.
	So they have to take that.
	And they connect it to it was in pursuance of a felony.
	If it's in pursuance of a felony, the statute of limitation, I believe, is extended somewhat.
	And it becomes a felony.
	Except they don't charge the felony in the indictment, which should have been fatal.
	The indictment should have been dismissed for failure to notify the defendant of the charges against him.
	Which is an absolute violation of 5th Amendment and 14th Amendment due process.
	I mean, this is routine.
	And then it turns out that the felony that we think they're pursuing is a federal felony, which the federal prosecutors do not consider a violation of the law.
	They don't consider it a campaign contribution.
	I mean, this case is a disaster.
	For American justice.
	If it is allowed to stand, it will make us a mockery when we tell people about fairness and equity and all the other things.
	This is a frame-up, not dissimilar to what's being done in Venezuela and Russia.
	I mean, what does Putin do?
	When he has an opponent that's going to cause him a little trouble, he removes him from the ballot.
	And this is exactly what Maduro did in Venezuela.
	I mean, this is extraordinary.
	Biden, in the worst way, wanted to give money to that communist government.
	He stopped our production of oil, closed down pipelines, closed down projects, basically saying that we were forced to buy oil from the communist Venezuela.
	But we had sanctions.
	And to lift the sanctions, the dictator, the communist dictator of Venezuela, had to promise him that they would conduct free and fair elections.
	Well, he conducted free and fair elections, like the 2020 election was free and fair, and like this election right now appears to be free and fair.
	He removed his opponent from the ballot and put him in jail.
	Isn't that what Biden is trying to do?
	He can't beat Trump.
	Trump is gaining the momentum in favor of Trump is right now quite astounding.
	They can only beat him by cheating in one way or another, which is what they've been doing since Hillary Clinton came up with the $1.1 million to make up Russian collusion Which are lapdog, communist, fascist-like press just printed and printed and won Pulitzer Prizes for printing false stories.
	This is just a continuation of that, and I think the American people see through it.
	At any time, in any place, if a judge was moderately honest, This case would be dismissed, but don't expect that from Judge Murshan, the acting judge in this case.
	He's an acting judge because he's never been elected.
	This is kind of unheard of.
	He's been hanging around the courts for 22 years and nobody's ever put him up for election.
	They just slot him in.
	And meanwhile, he's got two more Trump cases, including the one with Steve Bannon.
	I mean, he's probably volunteered for them because He's got such a hate for Trump, or he can help his daughter make an enormous amount of money, which she is doing.
	He also contributed to Biden.
	What's he doing handling this case?
	It's not a conflict?
	Well, then what is a conflict?
	If this isn't a conflict, there's no such thing as a conflict.
	And plus, if you look at his rulings, they've been absurd.
	Stupid, silly, and totally pro-government.
	Case is fixed.
	Corruptly fixed.
	In a court system that has been plagued by dishonesty and political corruption for 150 years.
	Because it's run by the Democrat bosses going back to boss tweet.
	They select the nominees.
	Very often they run unopposed like Judge Engelmoron ran three times unopposed.
	I thought that I thought that the best description of the last witness, because I mean, the reality is if we go through the witnesses, the first witness that had the Salacious magazine pointed out that he bought these stories constantly for purposes of business, not political.
	He did it for any number of other people who are Democrats.
	And of course, they've never been charged.
	And it had nothing to do with politics.
	And it had nothing to do with the entry in the—this is not a case about whether you bought a story or not.
	It's a case very narrowly about whether the statement legal expenses is beyond a reasonable doubt false.
	Then they called the lawyer, and the lawyer said he wouldn't consider this a hush money payment or anything.
	He'd consider it consideration.
	Consideration is a legal term.
	It's what you give in exchange that binds a contract.
	In this particular case, money.
	So the description of this as a legal expense is 100% accurate, according to their witness.
	And then they put Stormy Daniels on the stand for a three or four day live pornography show.
	Absurd.
	What does that have to do with the false statement?
	Nothing!
	What does it have to do with prejudice in the jury?
	Everything!
	Would any judge in America, Republican, Democrat, again, with just a little bit of integrity, dismiss the case at that point and declare it a mistrial?
	You're damn right they would have!
	This man is a disgrace, Merchant.
	He's disgracing judges all over the country.
	You know, when one crooked politician hurts it for everyone, or one crooked cop, or one... This guy's beyond crooked.
	These decisions are, let me use a very technical legal word, off the wall.
	And then we had the officially dishonest, impossible to call with any degree of There's no reason to believe him.
	There's no basis on which to believe him.
	who was caught lying so many times I can't quantify it.
	There's no reason to believe him.
	There's no basis on which to believe him.
	He's told so many versions of it.
	And his own lawyers tell you that he's a massive liar.
	And there's a reason they're allowed to testify.
	He waived the attorney client privilege because he is an arrogant criminal.
	And he thinks he can, because he's going against Trump and all of his friends in the establishment in New York, hate Trump, he thinks he's going to ingratiate himself.
	And he is!
	He's making a lot of money on TikTok.
	He's beating the living daylights out of Trump on TikTok.
	And the judge has entered an unconstitutional gag order so that Trump can't defend himself.
	This is America?
	So let's listen to Bob Costello describe this, because he's a direct participant in this.
	I think it'd be very useful to listen to someone else, you know, outside of the cast of characters we've been dealing with so far.
	hear what he has to say about it.
	Who said that?
	Michael Cohen about 10 to 20 times.
	So not just once, multiple times he told you that while you were his attorney, while you were in consultation with your client, he said that multiple times.
	He not only said that multiple times, but he said that after I said to him, knowing that he was suicidal, Michael, think about this.
	Isn't it easier to cooperate against Donald Trump than it is to kill yourself?
	And he still said, I swear to God, Bob, I don't have anything on Trump.
	When you laid it all out, you said, dude, you better cooperate.
	If you got something truthful on the president, you better let me have it or you're in trouble.
	And he came back with the exact same statement.
	I swear to God, Bob, I don't have anything on Trump.
	That is correct, and that was my obligation to do that, to fully inform him of what his escape route was, as he called it.
	And then he changed his story, right?
	Then he went on TV and changed his story.
	He changed his story, he turned around, and he's the only one who can do that.
	You have to believe Michael Cohen in order to convict Donald Trump if there's actually a crime there, which there isn't.
	But that's an issue for an appellate court.
	I want to read another statement, another line from your statement.
	You said, Alvin Bragg refused my offer.
	What was the offer?
	My offer was to come to his office and sit down, let him look me in the eye and see if I'm telling the truth when I had all these documents that showed that Michael Cohen simply was not a reliable witness.
	That his predecessors in the Southern District of New York decided after they spoke to me with the FBI that Michael Cohen wasn't reliable and they never used him again for anything.
	Why wouldn't Alvin Bragg talk to you?
	Why do you think?
	You'd have to ask him that.
	But I talked to eight of his assistant DAs.
	What was that reception like?
	I gave them a Zoom conference interview for an hour and a half before I testified in the grand jury on Monday.
	And then on Monday, when I testified in the grand jury, they did everything in their power not to ask me the questions that would elicit the exculpatory information.
	Is this the same information you took to the Southern District of New York?
	It is.
	Same information.
	They were happy to get it.
	Exactly.
	What did they decide?
	They decided they did not use Michael Cohen for anything again, and they didn't proceed against Donald Trump for anything.
	They saw what anyone with common sense would see.
	We can't make this guy as our star witness in a prosecution.
	We can't do that.
	And they didn't do it.
	And they didn't bring any charges, right?
	That's correct.
	And even Alvin Bragg understood that.
	Alvin Bragg said, He could not see a world in which he would indict Trump and call Mr. Cohen as a prosecution witness, but then he changed his mind.
	And he didn't change his mind until after.
	Until after President Trump was an announced candidate for president, which I think underscores this fundamental point.
	This is all about politics.
	That's your experience dealing with Mr. Bragg and his team.
	Is that right, Mr. Costello?
	Absolutely.
	I mean, there's no coincidences here.
	The fact that Judge Mershan has had all of these cases, and by the way, when he finishes with the Donald Trump case, Steve Bannon is next.
	Out of all the judges in New York County, somehow they keep on coming up with the same judge.
	Coincidence?
	I don't think so.
	I don't believe in them.
	I think it's all corny.
	Mr. Costello, I swear to God, Not an acting judge who's never been put up for nomination for a damn thing.
	22, 23 years?
	This guy is skulking around?
	I mean, he's at the mercy of the Democratic bosses.
	He's a true believer.
	Oh, are they really true believers, the Biden people?
	I don't know.
	I can't tell.
	But he's contributed to the candidate on the other side.
	His daughter is bashing the candidate on the other side for money, and when he gets all upset about his daughter being bashed, this isn't a baby or a child, this is a grown woman who finds no difficulty defaming the former president of the United States, putting him in prison guard.
	You know what, we're supposed to, we're supposed not to point that out to you?
	That that is a glaring conflict of interest?
	That in any legal system, with a semblance of integrity, the judge would be thrown off the case?
	And there's nobody else in the New York court system that can take this guy, grab him by the back of the neck, and throw him out of the courthouse?
	This is disgraceful!
	And in order to re-elect a president who has been an utter failure,
	is mentally incapacitated, totally dishonest, and has gotten thousands of people killed.
	What happened in Ukraine would never have happened in Ukraine if they hadn't cheated.
	In the last election.
	Well, you can pick your cheating.
	Cheating by suppressing the hard drive, which included Attorney General Barr, who could have produced that hard drive at any time and blown that election wide open.
	Or, even more importantly, pointed out that Biden told one of the biggest lies in an American presidential election when he said that this was the product of Russian disinformation.
	And accused me of being a Russian pawn.
	I mean, at that point, the FBI knew for eight months that that wasn't true.
	But they let the lies stand so that you would be defrauded.
	We could get into the stolen votes, too, if you want.
	With more information every day coming out on that.
	Including now the removal of the Secretary of State In Atlanta, who is the core of crooked Fannie Willis's case.
	But you don't hear that.
	That's not reported to you.
	We've got to work our backsides off to get it to you.
	Because we live in a Biden fascist state.
	Maybe an Obama fascist state.
	I don't know if Biden would be capable of even running a fascist state.
	I'm not sure the guy is capable of eating on his own, much less thinking.
	It's a struggle for him just to move.
	So if this case isn't dismissed, then you can just write off New York as a place that has any kind of a system of justice that fits Anglo-American law.
	And you can make Mershon your poster boy for a crooked judge.
	Because he sure as hell has acted like a crooked judge up until now.
	And Trump, meanwhile, apparently knows how to make the best out of anything.
	He's using it as a forum not only to attack the case, which he's actually slowed down on because of the gag orders, but he uses it as a place to illustrate Why he's prepared and ready to be president of the United States while the other guy is getting us into one difficulty after another.
	I don't know how close we are to a world war.
	I do know that Trump handed over a world at peace and he has created a world in complete turmoil.
	So the choice as to which person can guide this country is almost absurd.
	Trump is even using the time to evaluate and vet his vice presidential candidates.
	He had them all in the same suit the other day.
	He's not wasting any time.
	And you just think of what this country was like under Trump and what the country is like today, and there is really, really no choice.
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	Back with America's Mayor Live, and you're going to see something new right now that we haven't done really quite before, and let's hope it works.
	I think it is because we are improving our technology day by day as this show grows and grows and grows.
	You know, Ted and I started it as a simulcast of Yankee games, and it's become a very, very A very, a very important part of the way in which people can get honest information.
	As you know, I was dismissed or left or however you want to look at it, ABC, because they wouldn't let me discuss the 2020 election.
	The letter to me from the CEO in the first sentence in the letter takes care of all the lies they've been telling to the New York Post and elsewhere.
	The letter said that I was reminded that I could have no conversations, no conversations, about the 2020 election on WABC or as an agent of WABC.
	So, for example, I wouldn't be able to bring to you the evidence that just several weeks ago and then yesterday again, Georgia, the Georgia commission that was Given the authority to look into the election, found 3,000 votes in the 2020 election that had been cast more than once, duplicated at least, maybe more.
	Of course, I have tape recordings of that.
	And second, that there were 375,000 missing ballots, which of course was dismissed by the Secretary of State there, Rauschenberger, as But it was still an election that was won by Biden.
	Well, how the hell does he know if he doesn't know where the votes are and where they came from?
	That's 375,000.
	It was an 11,000 vote margin.
	And very suspicious that all throughout, we've maintained that they were using phony ballots that they had printed up after the election.
	And he and the governor, Governor Kemp, would never allow us to look at a single piece of paper.
	So maybe those are the 375,000 they were jealously guarding.
	I mean, you'd have to be really stupid not to realize that had they conducted an honest election, they would have had no fear of anyone examining those ballots.
	So the governor now is making Rauschenberger the scapegoat.
	He's just dismissed him.
	From the Election Commission.
	Now, these are facts you have a right to know.
	So a station like WABC doesn't allow its reporters to tell you that.
	That's disgraceful.
	And I would not work for a station like that.
	I hope you understand how immoral that would be.
	We've got a tremendous amount at stake here.
	We can't be gagged on things of vital importance.
	If the facts of the 2020 election are suppressed, they're just going to do it again.
	And if the reporters are too intimidated to tell you those facts, they're going to be too intimidated to tell you about 2024.
	We need a free and open press.
	We need to be able to report what we've heard and seen and then you in the marketplace of ideas get a chance to evaluate it.
	That's how America has always worked.
	That's how freedom of information is protected in a country of laws and a democracy and a country where people have rights.
	But Unfortunately, the Democrats have turned a lot of America into something with a censorship that's akin to a fascist or communist state.
	Ted?
	Yes, sir?
	So it looks like we're going to have a debate on June 27.
	Strange date for a debate, because that's before anybody's nominated.
	Biden will not be the Democrat nominee and Trump will not be the Republican nominee.
	We've never had a debate at that stage.
	You have a theory on why Biden was so anxious to have it on the 27th, and of course Trump is anxious to have it because he wants to kick his ass at any time, whenever he can.
	But why would Biden want to have a debate Before anybody is nominated.
	Or does Biden really want to have the debate?
	Or is he being forced to have it by the Democrat party so he can try out?
	Right.
	And they can find out if he really has even two or three brain cells left.
	Well, Mayor, that's the question a lot of people are asking.
	And you and I had a very, we've had an in-depth, numerous discussions today.
	on this.
	I have my thoughts, but I think people are curious to hear from you.
	I'm not just brown nosing, I'm not sucking up here, but you've been involved basically with every, you know, either yourself or negotiating on behalf of the Republican nominee, whether, you know, how many presidential campaigns have you been involved with?
	Almost every single one since, I mean, at least since Bush.
	So So I have my thoughts and I'll share them.
	However, I'm curious, and you made some good points when we first talked about this yesterday.
	One, why are they, why the sudden shift?
	Why the sudden change of heart from Joe Biden and his people, right?
	All of a sudden now they want to debate.
	So my question is to you, Mayor, and I think others are, I've seen in the chat, they've been asking this question, these questions.
	Why the sudden change of heart?
	And can you walk us through Kind of the different scenarios and the end results, depending on performance.
	Sure.
	Let's start with Joe Biden.
	Biden has said no to the commission debates, but so has Trump for different reasons.
	And I was part of the negotiating team in both 2016 and 2020.
	And there's no question that the commission is so geared toward the Democrat candidate that you would not get a fair debate.
	And from Trump's point of view, this is a good thing that Biden has recommended debates outside of the purview of a very, very biased commission.
	The thing that's strange about it is why the 27th, June 27th, I can see having it before
	the early voting takes place.
	In fact, it's a little strange to have a debate like the last time when half the vote's in already.
	But to have it before the convention makes me extremely suspicious.
	And at least I have a theory.
	I'm not going to say I can prove this, but this sort of makes sense to me.
	I think the Democrats are very afraid that Biden may not be able to perform.
	That he will prove to the American people, even in a more substantial way, that he's incompetent.
	Because they do everything they can to hide it.
	They surround him with people.
	They've created baby steps for the... I have no idea how they did that.
	And he has trouble with the five baby steps.
	He's talking about talking to dead people, giving medals to dead people.
	Uh, constantly, uh, repeating things that are lies.
	He's always been a liar, but some of these lies now take on the, uh, the feeling of a delusion.
	You know, uh, I, uh, I took the train every day over the Francis Scott Key Bridge for 30 years.
	There never was a train going over the Francis Scott Key Bridge.
	That's what you hear in a nursing home.
	I gave my uncle a purple heart after I was vice president and my father asked me to do it at my inauguration.
	His uncle and his father were dead for five and seven years before he was inaugurated.
	I watched Franklin Roosevelt read the funny papers on television.
	There was no television.
	Franklin Roosevelt died before there was television, and it was LaGuardia who read the funny papers.
	And he didn't read them on television, he read them on radio.
	I mean, I can go on and on, but these are delusional comments.
	It's not like his original lying when he was a young man and proved that he was a pathological liar, if not mentally ill, with plagiarizing Neil Kinnock's life.
	He didn't just plagiarize a speech like all those Ivy League professors do.
	Seems like it's an epidemic.
	But he plagiarized a man's life.
	He said his family, everyone was working in coal mines.
	Nobody was working in coal mines.
	Nobody had gone to college.
	A group of people had gone to college.
	These were all things that Neil Kinnick had said that he thought were very appealing.
	So he just assumed the guy's life and lied like a banshee.
	And was declared unfit to run for president in very, very dramatic terms by the liberal reporters of the day, including Sam Donaldson.
	He said, thank goodness this came out because this man could never be president.
	Can you, Mayor, Kind of describe for us the difference in the political press, if there is a difference between maybe the late 1980s and maybe the press now in 2024.
	In the 1980s, the press was capable of making a determination like that about a presidential candidate of the Democrat Party.
	You wouldn't see that today.
	Something like that would be covered up clearly by the New York Times.
	The only people they're going to go after Are the people, the Democrats who oppose Biden.
	I mean, look at what's going on with Menendez.
	I don't know if Menendez is innocent or guilty.
	I find his defense rather strange.
	You know, my wife did it.
	But at the same time, that case was there for three years, never prosecuted until he criticized Biden.
	Same thing with Adams in New York.
	The mayor of New York was on his way to Washington with two other mayors to complain about how Biden has screwed the entire United States by allowing millions of unvetted illegal aliens into this country.
	Unvetted means we don't know if they came from their own home or an insane asylum.
	And some of them are acting like they came from an insane asylum and endangering people and raping people and killing people.
	So, plus New York City, because Adams was a fool also inviting them there, offering them more things than other cities.
	Adams has crushed New York City with the weight of this.
	I mean, there are 60 to 70,000 that are being paid by New York City.
	People who have no right to be here, and people who we have no idea who the hell they are, and they are wreaking havoc on neighborhoods in the city that he doesn't seem to give a damn about.
	So he was going to Biden to get Biden to help him, and he had to return back to New York because they opened an investigation of him.
	And they raided the house of his chief fundraiser.
	Now they have a second investigation of him in Bragg's office.
	He was literally tweeting from the plane, I'm going into the White House.
	I'm going to show Joe Biden what's up.
	I'm going to tell him.
	And guess what?
	He never made it in the door.
	For a moment, they bashed him in the head with an investigation.
	He's kept his big mouth shut.
	And he started accusing Abbott of being a racist, as if Abbott is bringing these people in.
	Abbott is stopping them from coming in.
	He was sending them to New York, but he sent a minuscule number to New York compared to what he had to absorb, and he had every right to send them to New York.
	Adams was asking for them.
	He said, we're a sanctuary city.
	We'll take anybody.
	We'll give you more than any other city.
	We'll make sure you get an education.
	We'll make sure you get a job.
	Nobody's gotten a job.
	I think about four percent.
	And by the way, can we contrast that?
	I don't think anybody wants a job when I take a look at them.
	It's tough to do, but let's contrast that with Mayor Giuliani and your time as mayor, and really even before that, your time as prosecutor.
	And part of the reason, and you've told me this, Mayor, and you've told the audience this, one of many reasons for your success is that you weren't corruptible.
	They didn't have any of this sort of dirt or unseemly activity that they apparently have on people like Eric Adams.
	So you could not be compromised.
	Therefore, you could do what you wanted.
	They have tried to shut me up every possible way, right?
	From the moment I began representing Donald Trump, they went and took my iCloud, the FBI did, with a warrant, and they kept it for three years.
	They still haven't given me the warrant, except they were required to write to the grand jury.
	They found no probable cause that I committed a crime.
	Well, what happened?
	Did the probable cause go up in smoke?
	Maybe it's with the missing Atlanta ballots.
	And then they came a few years later and raided my house and my law office.
	And again, they had a right to the grand jury saying after investigating, they investigated my life for 20 years and they had a right to the grand jury that there was no probable cause that I committed a crime.
	So how did they get the warrant?
	Particularly an extraordinary warrant to invade the attorney client privilege of the former president of the United States and then all my other clients.
	I mean, this is outrageous.
	You realize the constitutional rights that they are trashing?
	These fascists?
	The right of privacy, the right of counsel, the right to a fair trial.
	I mean, and they are applauded by the New York Times and the Washington Post and CNN and MSNBC.
	And I'm fired because I want to talk about the 2020 election, just to make sure I keep my mouth shut.
	Because the owner of the station has a relationship with the owner of Dominion that Newsweek wants to subpoena and find out about.
	Or maybe because he's been reached.
	I don't know.
	He was a Democrat.
	Big contributor to Clinton, now a big contributor to Trump, but also someone who has absolutely no regard for free speech.
	Remember, the prohibition at ABC is you cannot have a conversation about the 2020 election, either on ABC or as an agent of ABC.
	What's he come off saying?
	You can't have a conversation about the 2020 election when 70% of the people in America, I think, have concluded that it was fraudulent.
	Or at least they've concluded that there's enough facts that it has to be explored.
	You just want to shut it down?
	All that's going to do is result in their doing the same thing in 2024.
	Yet another way to interfere with the election and try to stop the people's will, which appears to be, from every poll there is, to elect Donald Trump.
	I mean, I'm not a fool.
	So there's a lot going on here that's very, very dangerous.
	And your participation in this election is critical.
	And then you turn to what's going on in the world.
	As I said, Donald Trump handed him a world at peace.
	We hardly have a world at peace now.
	We've got the war in Israel.
	These people from Hamas, who are official terrorists, came into Israel and killed 120,000 people.
	120,000 people.
	And beyond that, threatened to eliminate the Jewish people.
	And they've been threatening that for 30 to 40 years.
	We showed you last night this terrible, terrible picture here of this young lady.
	Let me see if I can get it out for you.
	Nassim Louk.
	If you look carefully at it, actually, I might be able to bring it up on here better.
	If you look at it, well, that's her.
	That's her and her father at a much better time.
	But if you look at the one I have up on the board here, you'll see her body.
	That's her dead body.
	And these are the people that Biden is trying to protect.
	He wants to preserve Hamas!
	I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, um... Prejudice?
	I don't know what to call it.
	Inhumane?
	Indecent?
	All intended to create chaos so we have a one world, a George Soros, Klaus Schwab, One world that will eventually be taken over by China?
	All those stupid idiots that don't know what sea or river they're talking about are protesting in favor of these people.
	These people who killed this innocent girl.
	And she's only one of thousands that they killed and hostages they've taken.
	You ever see our president talk about our hostages or really give a damn if the American hostages?
	All he cares about is Israel better not kill too many Palestinians.
	Israel is about as careful as an army has ever been in not killing civilians.
	The allegations by the Biden regime with regard to that are inflammatory.
	And they are completely false.
	The percentage of civilians that Israel has killed is considerably less than our armies have killed.
	And they're also facing an enemy that places civilians in harm's way because they're miserable little cowards and they'd rather see the children killed than have themselves killed.
	That's all on video.
	Mike Fisher's on video.
	So, if we want to get through this world safely, we have to get rid of this traitor.
	And I'm not calling him a traitor lightly.
	I concluded he was a traitor way back at the beginning when he gave away the Bagram Air Base.
	I can't imagine anyone doing that other than a traitor.
	The Bagram Air Base was 400 miles from China.
	A very, very modern, very useful strategic weapon should we ever have to go to war with China.
	And he gave it up.
	And I'm supposed to believe that that wasn't influenced by the $31 million his family got from China, which his son told us he gets half of?
	My goodness, if I believed that, I never would have been able to crush the Mafia, would I?
	So let's take a short break and we'll be right back.
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	So as I said before, and welcome back to America's Mayor Live, Biden inherited a world at peace and has given us a world at war.
	A world at war with wars that involve superpowers in the background, superpowers that have the capacity to destroy the world, with the demented president having our button.
	I mean, hopefully, you know, they've prevented him from actually using that button, because he might not even know he was doing it.
	I mean, the guy walks around like a zombie sometimes.
	So, in Israel, the Israelis have at most killed 15,000 Hamas.
	When it all started, Hamas had between 35,000 and 40,000 warriors, killers, murderers, terrorists.
	That means not even half of them have been eliminated, so if Biden gets his way and Bibi takes out not a single other member of Hamas, they're going to be facing an army of terrorists.
	That's 20,000, 25,000.
	And who knows how many other Palestinians they can recruit, because the idea that the Palestinians are benign people, that we should bring to the United States like Biden wants to, is totally irresponsible.
	I mean, you just look at what Egypt and Jordan do, and they would not let a single Palestinian in, and Biden wants to bring him in and have him sit next to you.
	And they were trained from the time they were born to kill you.
	Not just Jews kill Americans.
	I mean, he's not a traitor.
	I mean, let's face it.
	That's an absurd thing to do.
	Maybe, you know, just as absurd as giving up the Bagram Air Base or the other things that he's done, which indicate clearly that he was bribed by China.
	But when you look at the other war, that never would have happened had they not cheated and gotten him elected.
	There's no doubt that that war would not have happened Putin is a shrewd, evil man.
	He takes advantage of weakness and he doesn't like to take any chances.
	So he's invaded three times in the last 15, 20 years.
	And he picks his presidents.
	He looks them in the eye and he tries to figure out, do they have the balls to do anything about it?
	He looked at Bush and he went into Georgia.
	He looked at Obama and he went into Ukraine.
	And he looked at Biden and he went back into Ukraine.
	And he looked at Trump and said, no thanks.
	So, had they not covered up the hard drive, criminally, and had they not Obviously manipulated the vote in the states in which they stopped counting when Trump was ahead and then resumed counting in many cases in private and counted until Biden won.
	Those Ukrainian people will be alive today, as would the people in Afghanistan and those 13 military members of ours who were killed in Afghanistan.
	Where he didn't have even the decency not to look at his watch and tell them a lie about his own son dying in combat when his own son died six years later in a hospital.
	Those families are furious at him.
	And all he's done is compound their grief with his deceptions and his lies and his narcissism.
	The same way he's done for his granddaughter that he wouldn't acknowledge.
	This is an evil man.
	I don't say that lightly.
	I say that because you have to face it to get him the hell out of there.
	Because they're going to do everything, everything possible to cheat in this election.
	Maybe worse than last time.
	And if we're too afraid to talk about last time, they're going to feel really empowered to do whatever the hell they want to do.
	Meanwhile, we've got a war going on in Ukraine, and we are throwing billions of dollars at it, the last $60 billion, and he refuses to have an inspector general for the money.
	Now, if you cared about the people of Ukraine, if you were a serious person and an honest person, and you wanted to help Ukraine fight off this evil Putin, You would be very concerned about what happened with the money that you gave to them or arms that you gave to them.
	Because Ukraine at the top is a crooked country.
	It's a dishonest country.
	Is it more dishonest in Russia or less?
	Pretty damn close.
	So, if you were a person of good conscience, when you gave them 50 billion or 100 billion, You would say that's a heck of a temptation for a country that's been ruled by organized criminals and oligarchs for quite some time, who actually at one point stole so much money that there was only $800,000 left in the bank account of the government.
	One of the people who did that, by the way, is the patron of Zelensky.
	So you would deal with Zelensky with knowledge of that.
	Not trying to make him into some kind of hero that he's not.
	The guy is the product of an organized crime, massive crook, Kolomoisky.
	He is sitting on massive amounts of criminal information about Americans and Ukrainians.
	He's got plenty on Biden.
	He's got everything I have, which should put Biden in jail for the rest of his life.
	Plus everything else I don't have.
	Anytime he wants to, he can just call Joe aside and say, you want to see the rest of the pictures, Joe?
	Because they're worse than the ones that Giuliani has.
	And he's got trial pornography.
	The man's totally compromised.
	Compromised by Ukraine.
	Compromised by China.
	And look, he gives up another $60 billion No Inspector General for the money, and no plan as to how you're gonna win this war!
	Zelensky's not even required to come up with a plan!
	Even a phony one!
	Because they're so damn arrogant, and because we have a press that's just as traitorous as they are!
	How the hell do you give 60 billion dollars to a crooked country, You have no idea what they're going to do with it.
	And right now, Russia is making gains there.
	They've taken territory back, and they are making a real effort to take a city that emotionally means a lot to me, Kharkiv.
	I want to show you the map that we have, if you can see it there.
	Which way would you rather do it, Ted?
	From here?
	Or can you put it up on the other board?
	Let's do it from there for now.
	Okay, so Karkev... So I'm going to turn around here and I'm going to show you where... There's Karkev.
	There's Karkev.
	There's Karkev.
	If you look at it, you'll see Karkev is outside of that, it should be red, but that pink area.
	That pink area is the area that Russia was able to conquer.
	Thank you.
	They attempted to take Kharkiv and they were driven out twice.
	They desperately want Kharkiv.
	It's the second biggest city in Ukraine, possibly per capita more profitable than Kyiv.
	And it also is a city that they have real animosity toward.
	That was their city.
	That was a city that had a Russian ethnic population.
	In all the elections in Ukraine, they voted for the Russian-oriented candidate.
	Then in 2014, Putin made a terrible mistake.
	He attacked that city.
	They probably would have surrendered to him if they hadn't attacked it.
	And they started killing people there.
	And the mayor, Mayor Kearns, who's now departed, dead, unfortunately, because they crippled him, Rose up against them and had the capacity to drive them out.
	And since the beginning of this war, they've made about eight different efforts to take Kharkiv, and they've failed.
	But they still continue to bomb it frequently.
	And they're making another effort now, and they've already gained territory.
	They attacked this city the other day.
	Vochansk, I think it's pronounced.
	I'm not absolutely sure of that.
	But here's Kharkov, and that, by the way, that city is right on the Russian border.
	Russia is right up there.
	There's Kharkov.
	And when you look at it more carefully, if you want to look at the larger map and you see that, Pink, red, whatever color that is.
	That's the strategic objective that Putin had.
	I would say his minimum strategic objective, maybe.
	Hard to know with a guy like that who's a very shifty killer what his real objectives are.
	But he did accomplish what we would call the land bridge to Crimea.
	This was not in the hands of Russia.
	Like this area here, they had to take Maripol.
	You may remember the battles that took place for Maripol.
	Well, they've been holding it now for, what, 14, 15 months.
	Ukraine made a major effort to take some of this back.
	Ukraine made a major effort to split the territory.
	They weren't able to do it.
	Nor do they say that with the $60 billion they're going to get now, they're going to be able to take any of it back.
	So if this is what we're stuck with as the permanent situation, then excuse me if I don't suspect that we're doing an Arafat.
	What an Arafat is, is giving them money That he takes, gives to his cronies and his wife, who now is living fat and happy in France, with the money that should have gone to the Palestinian people.
	I don't know how much money is going to get to the front, and I'm not going to guarantee any of it is.
	Well, I shouldn't say that.
	I would say that it would be pretty safe to assume that they get about half.
	Also, in a very, very cynical move, Biden makes sure that he doesn't give Ukraine enough to win.
	What's that all about?
	What the heck is that all about?
	This is just going to be the permanent North Korea-South Korea?
	And we're just going to, you know, fund their killing each other?
	So the base on which the oligarchs can, you know, take half the money for themselves or get the arms and resell them, the basis is going to be a continuing war in which another 100,000 Ukrainians get killed needlessly?
	If they're getting killed to win their country back, it's one thing.
	If they're getting killed to fund a money grab for a bunch of crooks, I mean, I can't tell you that Zelensky is a crook.
	I can tell you he's the product of a crook.
	Kolomoisky was his patron, and Kolomoisky was the biggest money launderer in Ukraine.
	And Kolomoisky could tell you to the penny how much money are in the Biden offshore bank accounts, if there are such bank accounts, as I've been told by Ukrainian prosecutors.
	Oh, by the way, I conveyed that information to Bill Barr and the FBI in January of 2020 with that gentleman that you saw on television before, Bob Costello.
	I also conveyed to them that there was a woman there in danger of losing her life that could give them those bank accounts and they never interviewed her.
	This has to be changed.
	We're not going to have a country left.
	We're not going to be able to pass on a nation of laws that's respected for the ages to our children.
	Instead, we're going to pass on a fallen America.
	Because we don't have the courage to stand up.
	Because we're too worried about ourselves.
	I had one person at WABC say, sometimes you have to listen to your bosses.
	Sometimes you have to not listen to your bosses.
	Didn't we learn that in the 1930s and 1940s?
	You've got to have your own individual conscience.
	And no one bosses your conscience.
	No one.
	If they do, you're not worth very much.
	And you're not worth very much to us when we're fighting to take our country back from a group of fascists.
	The broad prohibition on not being able to discuss the 2020 election, to me, was frightening.
	It said to me, I wasn't living in the America that I grew up to love and understand.
	And I was failing in my duty to make sure that I could pass that America on to those that came after me, like it was passed on to me.
	And I mean, I'd rather die than do that.
	Or I'd rather die trying to do that.
	Enough people have threatened to kill me.
	That's just not something that I fear anymore.
	I'm going to tell you, I don't lie.
	I tell the truth.
	And each time that this has been put out to a test, I've been found to be telling the truth about Russian collusion, about the hard drive, about Biden's crimes.
	And if they ever would show the real tags, you would see how perverted this family is, including the one in which Hunter Biden tells his father that he's a danger To the grandchildren.
	This is a very, very perverted family.
	If it's their problem, it's their problem.
	But as a perverted family, they're getting people killed in large, large numbers.
	Beyond that, and maybe not as of equal importance to To what we're talking about.
	Isn't that a heartbreaking picture of the father and daughter?
	That's the body you see gone because of the Hamas terrorists that the Columbia students are in favor of.
	That's her body.
	This, this here is what they are protesting for.
	This is the group that Biden wants to make sure survives in large numbers.
	I mean, there are 25,000 of them left.
	Who knows how many more?
	I have no confidence in any Palestinian, just like the King of Jordan does it.
	Just like the president of Egypt does it.
	I'm not saying they're all bad.
	I'm saying I have no way of knowing because from the time they were children, they were trained to kill me.
	And the Jewish people.
	So, let me make one or two other points and then we're going to come back and we're going to discuss something a little bit different.
	The economy as important as life and death?
	No, but at times it can be life and death for people.
	The way this man lies about the economy is unbelievable.
	There is no inflation.
	It's just that prices are going up.
	Well, that's inflation, jackass.
	You know how bad it is?
	It's ridiculous.
	It's absolutely ridiculous.
	I want you to look at one little example of it.
	And this is the cost of the things that you would buy at a place like McDonald's.
	And this is over... What period of time are we talking about here?
	This is a decade.
	So, the McChicken sandwich here.
	McChicken?
	There you go.
	It's gone up 199%.
	McDouble Sandwich has gone up 168%.
	From when to when?
	From 2014 to now.
	The medium, it's gone up like four or five times the rate of inflation.
	The medium fries, 138%.
	The quarter pounder, 122%.
	The Quarter Pounder, 122%.
	The Oreo McFlurry, 88%.
	The 10-piece McNugget Meal, 83%.
	And the 4-piece McNugget Meal, 67%.
	McDonald's may be the worst, but the rest follow not too far behind.
	I mean, this is just one example of how people are suffering, and the nitwit in the White House has no idea.
	I mean, he hasn't any idea at all.
	Basically, the prices are up on an annualized basis since he came into office, 20%.
	And the value of your dollar is down by about that much.
	So he's stolen about 20% of your money from you because of the wild, insane, and in many cases corrupt spending that he engages in.
	He also engages in ruining our criminal justice system and opening our border to the worst criminals imaginable.
	You remember the people who came in in Texas and El Paso and they beat up the National Guard and the police officers?
	A Democrat judge in El Paso?
	Yep, they have Democrats in Texas and they tend to be crazy left-wingers when they're Democrats.
	You let them all go!
	They don't even have a right to be here.
	He let them all go.
	Maybe they'll come to Brooklyn soon and beat up cops there because six of them who beat up cops in Times Square, the New York judge let them go.
	These are illegal aliens.
	Stop this crap with undocumented.
	They come into this country illegal.
	They're aliens.
	And for the protection of America, you have a right to assume the worst case scenario because they aren't vetted and they are escorted in by the Mexican cartels.
	Which therefore should have you assume that they are criminal until they prove otherwise, not the other way around where we just, we don't know who they are and we stick them next to you.
	They are wreaking havoc on neighborhoods in New York.
	Now Biden says he's going to close down the border.
	Remember he said he didn't have the power to do it.
	Now he's going to do it.
	Gonna close down the border after 4,000 come in every day.
	How many people is that per year?
	Well, we'll take a break and figure that out, all right?
	And we'll be right back.
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	And we got the mayor back on.
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	So we're back on.
	We've got the mayor with us.
	We were just discussing kind of how we started this, uh, mayor a few, I guess, years ago, but we still kind of talk about it in terms of months.
	Uh, but we started with the Yankees game, the Yankees playoff series.
	I believe it was either against the guardians or the Astros.
	There were two, there were two series, right?
	The first one they won against the guardians.
	I remember, I didn't know what the guardians.
	Were.
	I thought they were a prophylactic.
	They were advertising a prophylactic.
	But they turned out to be the team that I used to know with a much more appropriate name, Cleveland Indians, and that 97% of Native Americans had no trouble with, but about 3% of the Kooks had trouble with it, so they changed the name.
	Which gives you an idea of how tough Major League Baseball owners are.
	The same ones that glorified Black Lives Matter, which is a cop-killing organization, which gives me trouble, you know, loving my sport.
	But it isn't about them, it's about the beauty of the sport.
	So the Yankees are, they either have the best record in baseball right now, or the second best to the Dodgers.
	Yesterday, their star player, Aaron Judge, had a breakout game.
	He's been off to a slow start.
	Except in the last 10 days, he's batting .383.
	Wow.
	Which only gets him up to about .240 because he had a very slow start.
	They got carried by Juan Soto in the first two weeks, who was a very, very smart trade they made.
	And they won.
	They had like their best start ever.
	Then they slid back, but all of a sudden now I think they've won 9 of 11.
	They're in first place.
	Last night's home run was 467 feet, which ties for the third longest of the year.
	And all these guys hit monster home runs.
	But what the Yankees did with Soto is enormously important because he's a left-handed hitter.
	And you should know that the key to great Yankee teams are having at least two left-handed power hitters.
	Now, Judge sort of makes up for it because he is so strong he can hit to the opposite field with no problem.
	So lefties are hitting into the short porch that you have.
	Yeah, but I mean, you think about it.
	Ruth and Garrick, left-handed hitters.
	Maris and Mantle, left-handed hitters.
	Yogi Berra, Left-handed hitter, Reggie Jackson left-handed hitter.
	Wow.
	The first right-handed hitter to hit 50 home runs in Yankee Stadium was not Joe DiMaggio.
	Can I guess?
	It was A-Rod.
	Ah, that was an easy one though.
	Well, I was going to guess A-Rod.
	The Jeter, how many times did the Jeter hit 50 home runs?
	Never.
	Jeter wasn't a home run hitter.
	I mean, Jeter had his share of home runs, 20, 22, maybe his biggest year was 30.
	He also hit to the opposite field, which helped.
	Jeter was a terrific opposite fielder.
	Jeter used the whole field.
	Jeter and A-Rod.
	Michigan man.
	Jeter and A-Rod were very similar hitters, except A-Rod had power, but Jeter was a better hitter for average.
	So they really balanced each other beautifully.
	They never really got along, but they really balanced each other beautifully.
	And they used the whole field.
	I just don't think you could have spent any useful amount of time, you know, doing a switch on them.
	Because if you did, they just put it where the ball wasn't.
	They were like old fashioned ballplayers.
	And how did Derek Jeter kind of become Mr. Yankee for his era, his time period.
	I mean, good player, but he wasn't the best, was he?
	He was a fabulous player.
	Yeah.
	He wasn't just a good player.
	He was one of the top... But he was never the top star on the team, was he?
	Or was he?
	Am I wrong on that?
	Well, it was an extraordinarily balanced team.
	An extraordinarily balanced team.
	I mean, you could say, like, the World Series they won, You might say Mariano Rivera was the key to those World Series, because if they could get it into the seventh inning, game was over.
	Except one time, against the Diamondbacks.
	The tragic one in 2001.
	But that man's record as a closer was...
	No, I mean, every once in a while he'd blow a save like twice a year.
	And it was like a major tragedy in New York.
	You remember it.
	And when he was young, he was even more dominant because he had, he, he, here's how to describe his pitch.
	And I came up with this description.
	I think I may have gotten it from someone, but I was a catcher and I used to like to sit behind home plate and I would look at his cutter.
	And I would say it's a 90, when he was young, a 97, 98 mile an hour knuckleball.
	Now, you know how a knuckleball is only 65 miles an hour, but you can't hit it because it drops so much.
	Yeah.
	And you can't judge how much it's going to drop.
	Well, imagine something like that.
	Not quite the drop, but equivalent.
	Coming in at over 90 miles an hour.
	You're not going to touch the damn thing now.
	And it broke in.
	So he was tougher against the lefties than righties, which, uh, it took managers about four or five years to figure that out or the lefty righty thing.
	Uh, I, he probably was in the league four or five, six years before a lefty got a home run off.
	Wow.
	And he would give up like two, three home runs a year.
	He pitched a hundred innings and gave up almost none in World Series and playoff competition.
	His playoff numbers were better than his season numbers.
	And he was so far and away the single best closer in the history of baseball that he's the first and only man to go in unanimously, including Babe Ruth.
	Not because he's a greater player than Babe Ruth, because he was more dominant in his position.
	So you can go argue that there were hitters.
	I mean, there are people who believe that Lou Gehrig was a better hitter all around than Babe Ruth.
	I don't, but there are people who believe that.
	Or Ted Williams.
	They're certainly in the ballpark of discussion.
	There's nobody within 10 of Mariano Rivera.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, he was dominant, but then you had to have a team that got your head.
	And it was an extraordinarily well-balanced team of a few superstars and a lot of stars.
	Yeah.
	Like really, really good players.
	Tino Martinez, for example, who also was an extraordinary first baseman.
	I mean, the Yankees set the record for going the longest time without an error on the infield.
	And when it happened, A-Rod gave the ball to Tino.
	He said, you saved me so many times, I don't deserve this ball.
	I mean, it was almost impossible for Tino not to catch it.
	I don't know what he did, but not that Jeter and A-Rod had weak arms, But no matter what, there are going to be times that you have to throw a desperate throw.
	And Tino would find it and get it.
	And then he had a breakout year where he batted 340.
	And one guy would take over when a strawberry spent the end of his career there hitting key home runs to help win a World Series.
	I mean, they had just, Paul O'Neill was as gritty a player.
	I mean, he was a, It was a Pete Rose that didn't gamble.
	Pete Rose.
	You know, there's, there's, there's always a Pete Rose being on the hall of fame, by the way, because he didn't bet against his own team.
	Is that why?
	Yeah.
	And also because I don't think it's a fall of morality.
	Oh, that's a great point.
	That's a hall for the best baseball players.
	Even, even the steroid people.
	I would put them in with, here's what I, here's the only thing about the steroid people that I think should be done.
	Those records they have should not be considered legitimate records because they're unfair to new players.
	For a hundred years, only two people hit 60 home runs and 61 home runs in baseball.
	And now without steroids, there's a third one judge.
	Those home runs are very, they're not suspect, they're corrupt.
	So how are you going to expect some kid to hit 74 home runs without taking juice?
	So I think those records should be put on the side, asterisk them, whatever you want to do, just take them out.
	But should a guy like Barry Bonds be in the Hall of Fame?
	Of course he should.
	He's a great player and a lot of the Steroid situation could be blamed on Major League Baseball as easily as on the player.
	Because they turned their back to it.
	They tolerated it.
	They created an atmosphere of win at all costs.
	And these people are just human beings.
	You know, you're on a team, you want to win.
	What's the name of the drug?
	Performance Enhancing Drug.
	You want to enhance your performance for the good of your team.
	Yeah.
	So I think it's too damn complicated to get overly moralistic about it.
	Now you get a couple of difficult choices, like Bonds.
	It's tragic.
	He didn't need it.
	He needed it to hit the home runs.
	He didn't need it to be in the Hall of Fame.
	A-Rod probably didn't even need it to hit the home runs.
	I mean, he was hitting home runs when he was a baby, 50.
	He had 50 in his second year.
	Wow.
	A couple of them did need it, though.
	But most of them that I'm thinking about were clearly Hall of Fame players, no matter what.
	So I really think it should be straightened out and we should move beyond it.
	But that's at least my opinion.
	Also, a lot of people are making comparisons to the first year that I was mayor, 1994.
	Because we're having something happen in New York that's very similar.
	Both the Rangers and the Knicks are headed to the, hopefully, the finals.
	The Rangers are playing tonight.
	Well, I was wondering, so I can bring up the score right now.
	And I was wondering, we talked today, we're going to talk about the Yankees, the Rangers and the Knicks.
	And I should have known that if we started with the Yankees, We may not get to the other two.
	We could talk Yankees baseball with Mayor Giuliani.
	The Rangers are tied right now.
	Mayor, this is an update.
	The Rangers were up 3-1 5-10 minutes ago.
	This team has really fought back.
	The Rangers had them down 3-0, which reminds me of the Yankees and the Red Sox in the most tragic series I ever lived through.
	When the Yankees had them down 3-0 and they came back and beat them 4-0, the Red Sox did.
	Credit to the Red Sox.
	I mean, what are you going to do?
	That was an unbelievably courageous performance.
	And the funny thing, I went in to see Joe Torre at the beginning of the fourth game, you know, the one that would have clinched it.
	And I said, you must feel pretty good.
	And he said, I don't feel pretty good.
	This is an unnatural situation wherein we're not 3-0 better than the Red Sox.
	They had played an entire season, and they were like at 500.
	Or, I mean, one won 10 and the other won 9.
	I've forgotten, actually, who had the better record.
	I mean, they were virtually indistinguishable.
	If you remember, those games went 13 and 14 in it.
	That's right.
	And the Red Sox did the impossible.
	They won four in a row.
	So I look at that score in my heart.
	Now, if they lose, they come back to Madison Square Garden for a seventh game.
	And if you want to know statistics, it's something like this has happened about 10 times, three, and then somebody wins three, six times the team that had won the first three wins, four times the team that's on the streak of three wins.
	That's right.
	Something like that.
	I may be off a little, but the reality is that the team that won the first three wins more often, not like what happened to the Yankees, where they got wiped out in the, in the, in the, um, Ooh, I look at that 3-3.
	It makes me feel very bad.
	Very anxious.
	They were up 3-1.
	It was 3-1 10 minutes ago.
	Rangers were up.
	And they have a very good goalie.
	That's what we were reading about.
	That's one of their strengths is their goalie.
	Uh, at the same time, the Knicks tomorrow night play for going into the semifinals.
	That's right.
	If they win, if they win, they head into the semifinals.
	Is that correct?
	That's correct.
	And you got two basketball powerhouses, maybe the two capitals of basketball in America, New York City, and funny enough, the state of Indiana.
	Right.
	I mean, I don't know how that came to be, but are you familiar, Mayor, with kind of Indiana and the history that it has for basketball with the Hoosiers?
	How about the great rivalry they had in the 90s?
	Oh, see, where's my head?
	The Rangers and the Pacers.
	The Knicks and the Pacers.
	You're right.
	Reggie Miller, right?
	I was the mayor then, and I used to get a little violent even.
	I forgot about that.
	That's right.
	The Knicks.
	And I was just a wee lad because being a Detroit Pistons guy drove me nuts.
	I mean, he, I don't think he had G Miller.
	Yeah.
	My recollection of him is he never missed a shot.
	Yeah, I'm sure he did, but it was like every time for the damn ball up, no matter where he was, it went in the basket.
	He didn't have to walk.
	Yeah.
	And how terrible a feeling is that?
	Right.
	When the opponent, they got a guy who just hits a share of games against him.
	They were pretty, you know, who is your star player that they had?
	What's his name?
	Yeah.
	The Knicks had a couple of years.
	The guy they put on him, I think a lot was Sparks.
	Yep.
	John, John Sparks.
	Ewing was their star.
	That's right.
	And Ewing was a really fine player.
	I think you add one more player to the Knick team.
	And they don't want about three championships.
	Charles.
	I don't, I don't, I don't, uh, yeah.
	Oh, Charles Barkley.
	I man, Oakley Oakley was a poor man's Charles Barkley.
	What I mean by that is he was not quite, he was not quite Barkley.
	They had Barkley.
	They would have won.
	And Barkley as a player was a terrific player, but, um, Ewing was a terrific center.
	Great defense, great rebounder, great shooter.
	He just wasn't extremely physical.
	A physical, very physical power forward would have made the difference.
	That's why when he had Barkley, they were very, very good.
	But you want to take it just to the extra level, He needed the Hall of Fame player.
	I mean, look at the teams that win the championships.
	They have two or three Hall of Fame players.
	The Knicks had one.
	And it was unfair to him that they didn't surround him with two or three others.
	So the Knick team that of course I loved and knew the best was the Knick team in the 60s
	that won the championship. And they had four Hall of Famers, maybe five, Earl Monroe and Frazier,
	Uh, Coach Reynolds, Reed, Reed.
	I mean, man, I mean, Walt Frazier.
	Yeah.
	Willis Reed.
	But think of the backcourt of Frazier and Monroe.
	These guys played against each other as bitter rivals when, uh, the Knicks and the, and the And Baltimore would play off of the Eastern division title.
	And it was always one on the other.
	And Monroe had the offense and Frazier had the defense.
	And when they came, when Monroe came to the Knicks, the feeling was they wouldn't be able to play together because, and what Monroe did was in the off season, he went to see Frazier and he said, uh, He said, this is your team.
	I'm coming to your team.
	And I want you to show me how I fit in.
	I mean, this was the greatest shooter in the league at the time.
	Against the greatest defensive player.
	They might have had an animosity.
	I don't think A-Rod and Gito were ever able to accomplish that.
	I was always hoping they did.
	They blended together and they won a championship.
	They did.
	And all of a sudden, Monroe became a better defensive player.
	And Frazier became a better offensive player.
	I mean, they played off each other and played with each other.
	And then you had a shooter like Monroe.
	My God.
	I mean, when Monroe got hot, it was like eight in a row.
	Yeah.
	I mean, he was one of the greatest natural shooters in the history of basketball.
	Earl the Pearl Monroe.
	Earl the Pearl Monroe, 1970s.
	I would say Frazier, Walt Frazier, was a very, very good offensive player.
	When he had to play offense, he turned it on.
	I mean, the game in which they won their first championship and Reed was injured and couldn't play, he came out, made a basket.
	It was very, very heroic.
	He scored 41 points.
	He wasn't a scorer, but he picked it up, and the Knicks won the championship.
	And they did it without Reid really being able to play.
	They also had another great player, Dave DeBusche.
	You want to power forward, man.
	I didn't realize how much you know about basketball.
	DeBusche was an instinctive rebounder.
	Mike Bill Russell.
	At a Detroit Mercy.
	He went to college at D.C.
	What a rebounder.
	He's always in the right position.
	He was like a magician.
	He's a big, strong guy.
	He was a pitcher.
	You know, he almost pitched for the Tigers.
	And then they had Bill Bradley.
	He also had an extraordinarily smart team.
	Those guys were all very bright.
	Monroe, Frazier.
	Bradley was a Rhodes scholar.
	Debussy was a very smart guy.
	I think he coached later.
	Reid was a very smart guy.
	They had a great coach.
	And that was the glory days of the Knicks.
	So we'll see what they can do now.
	If they can both get in the playoffs, it would be fabulous for New York.
	New York needs a little lift from the finals.
	Yeah, well they have to go through.
	I thought they were going into the finals, but you corrected me.
	They're going into the semifinals.
	So the semifinals next round will be the conference finals, right?
	The next round will be for both the NHL and the NBA.
	So they have another series if they're able to get through this one.
	And then they will, after that, go on to the championship.
	So the Knicks were in the sixth game of the finals.
	Against the Houston Rockets, right?
	During the OJ Simpson automobile chase.
	And the Knicks won.
	That got them into the seventh game.
	And the players were very upset that a good deal of their heroics, because a couple of them were outstanding in that game, were taken off by OJ.
	They were taken off the air.
	I was the mayor.
	It was the first year I was the mayor.
	They probably wanted you to do something about it as mayor.
	They did!
	I mean, I had become very friendly with them.
	Also, when the Rangers won, I took my son, who was only about seven or eight, and we went in afterwards.
	He was a hockey player.
	Yeah.
	And we went in and I got to drink out of the cup.
	I wouldn't let him do it.
	But I loved hockey growing up as well, being from Michigan.
	Andrew was a good shooter.
	I need to talk to him because, Mayor, I swear I'll talk to my friends growing up.
	I could do everything.
	I was one of the best skaters.
	I couldn't shoot.
	I could do nothing but shoot.
	I needed Andrew's shooting ability and maybe I would have made something of myself.
	He turned out to be a professional golfer and was a terrific putter.
	So he's a professional athlete.
	And a top ticker.
	He wasn't a great baseball.
	He was a good baseball, but he wasn't a great baseball.
	He was a much better hockey player than he was a baseball player.
	But the hockey swing?
	Much closer to golf than the baseball.
	Ah, you know what?
	He's a golfer.
	He's a professional golfer.
	Many hockey players are good golfers naturally.
	Baseball players have to reconstruct their swing to be good golfers.
	Because you're swinging up.
	And the strength comes from the rhythm of the shot, not the power that you impart at the very end.
	In fact, when you try to impart that power at the very end of a golf shot, you're going to hit the ball, probably, you're going to probably hit it, hit it off to the, to the opposite, basically to the opposite field and lose distance.
	I need to, I needed to talk to Andrew when I was, or you Mayor, back in mites or developing mites or squirts.
	I played hockey all up till high school.
	If you played hockey up until high school, we could make you into a golfer in six months.
	I could probably do a better job making you into a golfer than Andrew.
	Andrew's too good in many ways.
	I helped his wife learn golf because I'm more patient because I stink.
	Yeah.
	Oh gosh.
	Oh gosh.
	Me, Mayor, I don't know.
	And he's, he's very, very good.
	So sometimes he doesn't understand our struggles.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Can't even relate to it.
	It's all over the world.
	Somebody hits the ball, you know, 280 yards, 290 yards, 300 yards.
	I don't know.
	If he ends up in the rough, he figures out a way to get out and put it on the green.
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
	When we're all out on the golf course.
	He cuts like a maniac.
	And he has this instinct, this instinct to finish.
	So the last four or five holes, he beats you.
	Yeah.
	Oh, exactly.
	So yeah.
	And whenever we're all out there and I've been out there a couple of times, you know, I'm driving the car.
	That's my job.
	I'm driving the car.
	Uh, the mayor, you, you got a swing.
	You've got a golf swing.
	I've seen you.
	Maybe we'll play some clips tomorrow, next week.
	Maybe Saturday we'll go out and hit a few balls.
	Okay.
	So what, what, okay.
	So before we go, New York city, we'll go more crazy if the Knicks win or the Rangers or, or about the same.
	I mean, New York historically... There are probably more Knick fans in the city.
	Just by numbers.
	But the Ranger fans are maniacs.
	They are.
	And I know that as a Red Wings fan.
	50 years, 54 years of no Stanley Cup.
	When they won the Stanley Cup and we had that parade, you couldn't tell it from a Yankee parade.
	Yeah.
	I mean, those people were going crazy.
	I mean, they are not fair weather fans.
	For 54 years, they didn't have to stand like up, and they would sell out the garden every night, or every time.
	You're an original six, just like Bill Redwings.
	The Knicks fans are very strong, and the Knicks are very much beloved, but the fans aren't quite as loyal.
	When the Knicks weren't doing well, the garden was not sold out.
	Was empty.
	No, no, no.
	No, never empty.
	Well, it is New York City, so it's... Yeah, but they're Knicks fans that are just Knicks fans.
	I mean, they're just gonna go, and Yankee fans, and you never...
	You almost never have what we saw in Baltimore.
	When Baltimore wasn't good, there'd be more Yankee fans there.
	But I mean, you're asking me which fans are more enthusiastic.
	There are more Knick fans because they're more basketball fans.
	But there's more enthusiasm for the Rangers, I would say.
	That makes sense.
	And I mean, look, basketball started in New York, right?
	When you think about the country.
	Almost everybody in New York in one way or another, you know, if they're at all athletic, play some basketball, whether they're good or not.
	In the course.
	Yes.
	They play in high school, in gym, or they'll play outside.
	Because the city is constricted, right?
	It's a little bit harder to play baseball.
	And hockey, as you know, you've got to go to the rinks at two in the morning and three in the morning.
	But I didn't know this.
	New York is a top five hockey state in terms of youth participation.
	Oh.
	And part of that might be because of numbers.
	New York's a big, big state with a population.
	We really need hockey.
	I mean, it's a very, very big sport.
	Remember, we've got three teams.
	We support three teams, and they do well, too.
	The Highlanders do well, and the Devils do well.
	And unlike your football teams, they actually play in the state of New York.
	Yeah, well, not the Devils.
	They're the New Jersey.
	But they are prominently named the New Jersey Devils.
	You have three New York teams.
	Don't forget about the Buffalo Sabres.
	You're showing your New York City bias a little bit.
	Forgetting about Buffalo.
	I was talking about the New York City area.
	I know, I know, I know.
	I'm teasing.
	The mayor would never forget about Buffalo.
	The Buffalo Sabres.
	Yeah.
	Remember them?
	Yeah, I do, I do, I do.
	I don't even know what their colors are.
	I feel like they change their colors all the time.
	Well, we're getting, it's getting late.
	We could talk sports for an hour.
	Outside of politics, Mayor, I mean sports, we could be right there in terms of that.
	But I think we better call it a night so we have energy for tomorrow, right?
	Big day tomorrow, we'll kind of keep it.
	Some of you may know if you've been reading the post, but we've got some big surprises in store tomorrow.
	And the Mayor, there's some surprises I'm not even going to tell him that I'm being told about in regards to tomorrow.
	This is a pre-birthday celebration, I think.
	And it's supposed to be a surprise.
	Well, we'll say that we take this, we take our show.
	I'm surprised.
	I don't know exactly what they're going to do, but I kind of, I kind of surprised the great investigator.
	Also, I didn't thought he could surprise me and get me to think that he was honest.
	And I've found out that he's the biggest crook to ever have at the White House.
	What a nasty man.
	What a disgrace to this country.
	What a disgrace.
	And what a disgrace what they're doing to Trump.
	It's a disgrace whether you like him or you don't like him to do that to an American citizen.
	If they can do it to him, they can do it to me.
	And they have done it to me.
	And if they can do it to me, they can do it to Peter Navarro.
	And they have done it to Peter Navarro.
	They can do it to Steve Bannon.
	And they can do it to the 15 or 16 people in Atlanta I don't even know who were indicted for conspiracy.
	I conspired with them, but I don't know them.
	That's right.
	Some crooked fanny and her lover boy.
	I'm going to turn off my camera.
	Thank you, everyone, for kind of joining us in this new, interesting format.
	You're going to see a lot more of this.
	I'm going to throw it to the mayor for your final comments.
	We'll call him for the evening show.
	We've had a good night of discussing things, getting out to people and getting out the truth.
	It's an effort nowadays to get out the truth.
	In order to tell the truth, you sometimes have to put yourself in great jeopardy, which is tragic.
	The pillow that you see below there comes from my pillows.
	If you would like it, you see me above.
	Don't get frightened.
	But right below, you see, I mean, Ronald Reagan should be there.
	And I'm going to put him there.
	And then eventually, I think Donald Trump should be there.
	But, you know, he still has to win.
	But I think Reagan and Trump should be on either end of those great presidents.
	But you can get that.
	That's a pillow.
	And it's done by MyPillow.
	And if you go to mypillow.com slash Rudy, they'll get it to you right away.
	And I just got a nice blanket from them.
	It's fabulous.
	Oh, and I also got a beach blanket from them.
	I call it a blanket, but I was told it's a beach blanket and I'm dying to wear it.
	Try to find like a liberal beach to go to.
	But here in Florida, man, this has turned into a really big Republican state with Trump and DeSantis and nice here.
	People actually have common sense.
	Well, God bless the people of Israel and God bless the people of the United States.
	We'll see you tomorrow at three.
	Remember, we're on at three now.
	on X and all the other networks that cover us.
	Hopefully there'll be more.
	And then we're on at eight again.
	And we'll have a great surprise for you tomorrow night.
	God bless America.
	God bless America.
	you America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreement, anger, hatred.
	It was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
	It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers, in which Thomas Paine explained, by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
	He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom
	of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
	And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
	Because the desire for freedom is universal.
	The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
	This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
	Look at what we've done in the past.
	And see if we can't use it to help us now.
	We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
	The greatest democracy, the freest country.
	A country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
	All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
	But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason.
	We're able to talk.

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