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May 16, 2024 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show (E4): Why is Joe Biden Suddenly Eager to Debate?
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Good afternoon, this is Rudy Giuliani with the Rudy Giuliani Show, the third day that it's livecast.
Fourth day.
Oh, today's Thursday already?
Wow!
We've been having fun this week, kicking the hell out of Biden and also fighting against censorship.
You can't believe the support we're getting.
Wow, God Almighty, I have to tell you, we prayed to you.
And you've delivered.
I mean, we... I've been on various shows all week, and it's one after another that are out there, very, very concerned, not just about what happened to me, but what happened to me in the general context of everything that's happening.
I'm a symbol of what could happen to you.
Worse than some, but not as bad as others.
I mean, I don't, I don't pretend to have to be going through what the poor people on the January six people went through.
Uh, in some ways, um, you know, you look at, uh, uh, uh, Mr. Papadopoulos and Roger and Roger Stone.
Uh, now they had through it already, but I mean, they, they, they, they went into their houses like they were terrorists.
The FBI was actually quite respectful in going through my house.
They had no reason to go through it.
And they ended up wasting their time for two years when they could have gone and caught criminals and then had to write a letter to the grand jury saying that I didn't commit any crimes.
You know, you probably don't even know that because they don't report it anywhere, right?
The New York Times had it on page 927.
You say to me, but they don't have a 927.
Well, that's right.
I'm exaggerating.
But that probably I'm going to get prosecuted for false statement when I said that.
So the debate is coming.
Uh-huh.
The debate is on its way.
Two debates.
Two of them.
And it's an interesting tactic here.
Because I believe that the first debate is something we've never seen quite before in American politics.
I don't know.
I don't think we have.
At least I've never seen it before.
I think it's a tryout.
I think it's a tryout.
It makes no sense to schedule this debate before the conventions.
Neither one of them is actually going to be the nominee of the party.
It's on the 24th or the 27th, Ted.
27th, I think, right?
That's right.
Yeah.
So they're not going to be nominees of the party until a month later, a month and a half later.
I don't think we've ever had a president, I'm sure we haven't had a presidential debate of the potential nominees.
You know, if you were going to do it, it would have made more sense to do it right after, like a week after the Democratic Convention and then one more.
So why, Ted, why?
Let's speculate a little.
And have our audience speculate with us.
By the way, our number here now, our new number, and as I said, over the weekend, we're going to make this even easier because only Ted gets to call right now.
So it gets a little backed up.
I mean, Ted does about 40 things.
It's really good that Ted was born with three arms.
And since he's not on camera, you wouldn't know.
But you stay tuned tonight.
I'm putting him on camera.
I even organized a damn camera myself.
It might not look good because I'm going to do it, but I got the camera over there in the corner.
Well, we're doing so well with the ratings, Mayor.
I don't think you want to put me on quite yet.
I think if I put you on, I get all the young women.
I put Dr. Maria on, I get all the guys and then they make up for the fact that I have a face for radio.
You know, I'm making a switch here from radio to television in the middle of the day.
At night, at least I have enough time in the coffin.
I can take blood in.
And I look better at night.
In all honesty, the best wingman a man could ask for, if you're having trouble with the ladies, guys, and look, he's very busy.
I'm not saying he's going to have the time.
That's not true.
But I can tell you for a fact that he's the best.
Should we tell him what Mike said?
No, we can't tell him.
You know we love Mike, right?
And hopefully he's going to be with us tomorrow.
We're hoping he's coming down tomorrow.
But, uh, we were talking about this and Mike said, I love the mayor very much, but I don't need any help.
I've always been very attractive to women.
That's what he told us.
I was, I was, you know, this is not quite, it's not the same kind of market.
Not yet.
No, this was the biggest lie of all is when Cohen said that Melania came up with a locket.
Oh yeah.
What was that about?
I was there listening when they came up with it.
I wish it was me.
It was fabulous.
It was a combination of... I've forgotten the third person.
Trump, Bannon, and somebody else.
Not you?
I thought it was you.
No, no.
I was listening.
I was... And you're the one that used it more than anybody.
Gosh, yeah.
Well, I was the one who went out there, you know, on the five shows and escorted the women out.
And that's something.
Yeah, I remember with Jake Tapper, he said, Mayor, would you ever use language like that?
I said, well, Jake, you know, I have to give you a confession here, you know, I'm like not a perfect person.
I am a guy.
He said, I would never use language like that.
And then they cut this out later broadcast.
I said, well, now I've met two, now I know of two perfect people, Jesus Christ and you.
That's a great line.
We got to find that.
He is so pompous, but actually I always liked him better than, uh, than Squirrely Face.
Wolf Blitzer!
No, I like Wolf.
Oh God.
Oh man.
I go way back with Wolf.
The Situation Room.
Wolf is an old fashioned liberal.
He hated Republicans from the time he was born.
And he's not mean or... I actually like Wolf a lot.
I think it's unfortunate that he's got to... That's not his real name, though.
There's no way his real name is Wolf Blitzer.
I mean, it's a cool name.
That's not... There's no way his name is Wolf Blitzer.
That's way too cool.
That's a nickname because as a young child, he had a little bit of a situation.
And right in the crib, he was going, They thought he was a wolf.
Well, let's get serious.
So here's my thought, and you tell me what you think of it, Ted.
I think they're doing this very unusual thing.
There could be two reasons that I'll posit.
You may come up with more.
One reason could be he's really slipping big time.
I mean, the numbers are running away from him.
Having, you know, been involved in a number of different campaigns for myself and other people, you've got to stop the bleeding.
So he's bleeding particularly Hispanic and black votes.
He's even bleeding young people's votes.
So you've got to stop the bleeding.
And if they think the bleeding is coming from the fact that people think he's incompetent, they want him to put up a performance At least like the State of the Union.
And I don't know that they think that'll win it for him right away, but at least it might stop the bleeding.
The second possibility, which is even more sinister, is they're going to see how he performs.
And if he can't perform, they're taking him out.
This is like a tryout.
I mean, if he can maintain what he did four years ago, and you can't tell by the State of the Union, it's a different thing reading something.
And they came up with a great style for his reading.
They let him yell.
So that made him look animated.
Normally, if you didn't have no expectation for that speech, and I'm not being partisan, I'm just being a speech expert.
Because I've helped people with speeches after Roger Ailes taught me how to do it.
And you would say that was a terrible speech.
Forget the content.
He yelled all the way.
You never yell all the way through a speech or a summation, because then when you do want to yell, it loses impact.
You pick two or three moments in the summation or a speech that are going to be highly charged.
And then maybe you want to yell or, or like the great ministers who do it in their conclusion, right?
You see why you listen to a great, I mean, I listened to a lot of them to become a good speaker.
Not that I would use their style, but there's a thing about them where they open, open themselves up to you.
And, uh, but you just can't scream all the way through.
So, I mean, he's not going to get, not going to be able to do that in a debate, you know, President Biden, isn't it a fact that when you came into office, inflation was only 1% plus a little, and you say it's 9%?
Well, that's not right!
That is the way it is!
Inflation was 9%!
You just go check it!
And if he becomes president, he'll be a dictator like Hitler!
You can't do that, right?
I mean, you can't do that.
You'd have to, I mean, you can say all those stupid things if you want, but you've got to say it in a modulated way.
So it'll be interesting to see.
I'd also like to know what they give him.
I believe it's Ritalin.
I believe they give him some form of Ritalin, high dose, because as a doctor pointed out to me the other day, when we had a long conversation, the day after or two days after he has one of these things, he looks awful.
I mean, this guy goes from looking moderately okay to looking like the walking dead, depending on the day of the week.
And I think it's not only he's seriously afflicted with dementia, I think it's the effect of the drugs.
So this debate on the 27th, if he gets through it, I don't know what bar they're going to set internally for it, Probably not much.
If he gets through it and doesn't fumble or do something terrible, they'll probably keep him because it's going to be really hard to replace him.
But if he does a major fumble, I think they're ready to take him out.
And probably Obama calls that shot, don't you think?
Yeah.
Or probably a little group around Obama.
The money guys.
Soros will have something to say about it.
I mean, he should.
He owns a lot of it.
I don't know the rest of the big money guys that are left.
I mean Harvey Weinstein used to be one.
You think it's Obama's decision alone, Ted, or you think it's a sort of corporate decision?
I guess the point is, we don't know enough about who really is running things.
Is it Obama?
Or is it a committee, which Obama is the major factor?
I don't want to give Obama all the credit.
I think by now he's been president or former president for 16 years, so he's probably pretty dug in, has a lot of influence.
He's definitely kind of the grand poobah.
But he's had to, you know, he was controlled, right?
Other people were controlling him when he came on the scene out of nowhere as the junior senator
from Illinois and all of a sudden the guy's on every cover of every magazine known to man
in 2006, 2007, 2008. These guys like nothing more than somebody like Biden who they can control
because the guy doesn't know where he is.
But I think they prefer someone that can win.
They can control and can be a better, like Zelensky would be perfect.
Yes.
You know Zelensky, Zelensky is like a perfect little puppet.
Kolomoisky owns him, Kolomoisky made him.
And then, you know, he's going to make sure that none of the oligarchs get hurt.
Yeah.
Or he's going to allow his predecessor to keep his $50 or $100 million bribe.
Yes.
So Zelensky's the perfect guy for it because he's younger and he's not demented.
I think they would have preferred a guy without dementia.
Well, because they are taking a big risk.
And they don't like anything out of their control.
That's right.
And they have themselves in a situation where he can wake up tomorrow morning and not be able to speak.
That's the nature of this disease.
And since they hide it, we don't know exactly how bad it is.
But there are times where it looks very bad.
There are times in which you wonder, I mean, he's always been a liar, so it's hard to figure it out.
But some of his lies now seem delusional, rather than like the dead people that he keeps referring to that he's talking to.
Well, in any event, One more point, Mayor, why Obama does have so much influence still is because of Michelle Obama and the leverage.
So if you guys are listening to us, I can see Michelle running and showing the nomination, right?
Let's say he gets up there and he does one of his, you know, I saw Franklin Roosevelt reading the comics on television.
And, you know, Franklin Roosevelt is dead for three years.
And they all of a sudden you realize the guy doesn't have a brain left anymore and they have to bring in a relief pitcher.
So who is it?
I don't know if they're getting one ready in the bullpen, in the hidden bullpen.
Well, Mayor, you know, I think with all your experience and knowledge, I think we're all curious on who do you think it would be?
I don't want to go with the easy question.
You know, I'm always a better questioner because I was a cross-examiner.
So, Mayor, who do you think?
Let me ask myself the question.
Let's not do the easy one.
What do you think is calling the shots on who do you think is in the bullpen?
Yeah.
I would say all indications are it's Newsom.
And I'll tell you, with all, I mean, look, no matter who you pick, there are going to be pluses and minuses.
I do not think it's Michelle.
They're not, they don't have her out there enough.
They really have no idea how she's going to perform.
She could be a deer in headlights when she becomes a candidate.
And the fact that she can perform well in other situations says nothing about how she can perform as candidates.
We've seen people who are actors and they go, you know, and they're terrible.
So she should have had some practice, a little more involvement in the campaign, I think.
I think.
So Ron Klain is coming in to prepare his old boss.
He's taking, like, time off from his job at Airbnb.
You're not kidding.
Do I kid?
Yes.
But no, no, I'm not kidding.
I'm literally not kidding.
He's coming in.
They're gonna- This guy, there it is.
But who the hell's bringing the- I want to know who's bringing the drugs in and what locker are they going to put them in?
I mean, I have no idea.
So, uh, the commission's now out.
I feel bad.
I negotiated with that commission for two straight presidential elections.
I negotiated the First group of debates with Hillary and the second group of debates with Biden.
The ones with Hillary were hilarious, like when they wanted to put her on a stand so she could be equal height.
And I said, well, we would only agree if you gave us an equal stand.
And when we got past the second stand, Trump was about 13 feet tall.
So we then got back to everybody will stand where they are.
And I used to, I used to, I used to play off.
I didn't even bother to call him.
I used to play off because they were desperate to get him in to debate.
I would say, well, he's, I mean, there's no way I can sell that to him.
He's just not showing up.
And then they would cave in and let me have what I wanted.
Uh, I do think, I do think they, you know, they're basically Democrat oriented and we're, we're, we're, uh, better off being rid of them.
Now, why does Biden not want them?
Well, first of all, he doesn't want four debates, particularly one right up near the election where you don't have time with money and stuff to fix up a big mistake.
That last debate is extremely dangerous.
I mean, if you're going to make the mistake, you want to make it in the first debate.
Remember, you know, it's not uncommon, for example, Reagan and Mondale.
Reagan lost the first debate and then he trounced him in the second debate and he won an election with every state but Minnesota.
And everyone believes he actually won Minnesota and decided, I'm not going to contest it, but let the kid have it.
That may be folklore, it may not be true, but he won a massive election.
I would say Obama lost the first debate.
Romney certainly didn't win it.
Romney isn't capable of winning a debate.
He's too much of a stiff.
But Obama really blew the first debate.
He didn't seem to be prepared on the issues.
Also, both an Obama and a Reagan would go into the debate with very high expectations, and therefore any mistake they would make would be exaggerated.
I mean, it works the same way the other way around.
You know, if the expectations for Joe are that he's going to not be able to get words out, and he gets a couple of words out, then wow, he was great.
And that could hurt Trump a little in the first debate, because Trump You know, it is a great debater.
They're going to expect a lot from Trump.
And of course, they'll pick on him like crazy.
But it really matters how his people react to him, because he's got the votes to win.
Is he going to hold them or isn't he?
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This is Rudy Giuliani back with The Rudy Giuliani Show, which I'm still getting used to as, you know, being on television.
Like, I have to get dressed early, you know, and stuff like that.
No, I was dressed when I went into the station.
And I did it mostly from the WABC studios, probably a third out of the studios.
Sometimes, you know, when it started, I did it all at home because there were no studios.
I started at the beginning of the pandemic in 2000.
And I started uncovering the truth with Dr. Maria, oh, within two or three weeks of that.
So those shows have been on for quite some time.
And I just find it extraordinary that they want to say they warned me about talking about the 2020 election and then prohibited me from doing it when I just kept doing it.
I mean, if you posit it that way, you've got to think, Every time I'm on, they're telling me you're violating the policy and for 300 times in a row, I do it.
What's the expression?
Once you practice to deceive, we'll get that quote right.
Well, I thought yesterday the best summary.
And I tried to reach Andrew, but he was back in court.
So I don't want to say it was the best summary, because I would be saying it was a better summary than my son.
I wasn't able to hear Andrew's.
But I thought that the best summary that I got to hear was Bob Costello.
But really, it's more of an insight into a pathological liar.
And so I thought yesterday the testimony that he gave Before the House committee was devastating, absolutely devastating.
And you know, the lie that I'm the one that I'm always focusing on, because Benny Thompson warned him, warned Cohen, you know, you better not lie, because he came to them with a history of, you know, 10 years of lying.
And basically, he told the government when he pled guilty, now I'm going to stop lying and tell the truth.
Now, in my experience, when you don't do that, when you cooperate, and then you go in front of juries and say, I've seen the light and I'm telling the truth.
If you lie, prosecutors come down really hard on you.
I did.
There's a reason for that.
There's a bond that you have with the jury.
You know, if you've got a Sammy the Bull type guy on the stand, right, you're going to say, you know, he's a terrible guy.
He's an awful guy.
He's a terrible person.
I had that in the Stanley Friedman case.
But from the moment he came in to cooperate, I gave him a lecture and I told him, we've got no room here now.
We're in a new ballgame.
We're telling the truth.
And if I catch you in a lie, the whole deal is off, and I'm going to make sure you go to prison for the max.
I had that happen rarely.
I had it happen in somebody else's case, and I had a prosecutor, and we put the guy away for the max.
That's how, over a period of time in an office like the Southern District, when a prosecutor says that, the jury can believe it.
So they excluded Cohen as a witness.
They won't take him as a witness because he's bad for the overall professional reputation of their office.
Now, Bragg's predecessor did the same thing, and Bragg did the same thing originally, until the Democrats got in, the Biden-Easters, and they needed their four trials, and they put together this non-crime.
So you pulled out a little excerpt.
Remember, Bob Costello was Cohen's lawyer in New York.
He had a lawyer in Washington also.
And basically, this was when he was on the same side as Trump because he said, I have no knowledge that Trump committed a crime, which he said endlessly, including through a two-hour grilling by Chris Cuomo on tape, that I have to tell you, was as good as the cross-examination done of him, you know, today and yesterday.
I mean, Chris really went after him, and it was private, so he could have said things then, and he didn't.
So let's, let's see, let's see what Bob has to say.
Because he has his own perspective, and it's, you know, it's, He's closer to him than anyone.
Cohen told me that he knew there was money missing from the Trump inauguration.
I see where you are now.
Thank you.
And then on the next page, end of that first paragraph, Cohen decided that while he didn't believe the allegation of the Stormy Daniels story, that he thought the story would be embarrassing for Trump and especially for Melania, so he decided he would take care of it himself.
Absolutely, and that is contrary to what this guy testified to in court in New York yesterday.
Well, what's not being talked about is your next paragraph, like the reason and his motivation for that.
So if you could just kind of walk through that for the committee.
Yeah, obviously, when we started to talk about the NDAs, and this is the very first meeting at the Regency Hotel, when, by the way, Rudy Giuliani was not involved in representing Donald Trump at that time.
Cohen testified that it was a conspiracy between Giuliani and Costello as of this date.
Totally false.
In any event, he also said that he didn't discuss the Stormy Daniels matter with us, and he certainly did.
I specifically asked him because he kept on going back saying, I can't believe they're trying to put me in jail for these NDAs.
So I said, Michael, tell me about the NDA.
Tell me about Stormy Daniels.
What did you do?
He said, I got a call from a lawyer representing Stormy Daniels who represented that she was going to testify that Donald Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels.
Michael Cohen said, I didn't believe the allegation, but I knew that such an allegation would be terribly embarrassing.
He said, it would be embarrassing.
He focused on Melania Trump.
He said, I didn't want to embarrass Melania Trump.
He said, that's why I decided to take care of this on my own.
I went back to that several times.
You did this on your own?
On my own.
Did Donald Trump have anything to do with it?
No.
Did you get the money from Donald Trump?
No.
From any of his organizations?
No.
From anybody connected to Donald Trump?
No.
Where did you get the money?
I took out a HELOC loan against my property.
I said, why would you do that?
He said, I didn't want anybody to know where I got this money.
I didn't want Melania to know.
I didn't want my own wife to know, because she's in charge, he said, of the Cohen Family Finances.
He said, if she saw money coming out of my account, she'd ask me 100 questions, and I didn't want to answer any of them.
It was clear after talking to him for several days after that, whenever we talked on the phone or in my office, that he kept on bringing up the subject that he felt he was betrayed by not being brought down to Washington, D.C.
This guy thought, he said to me, that he should have been Attorney General of the United States, or at least the Chief Assistant to the President.
Ludicrous, but that's what he thought.
And he was very angry about that.
He wanted to do something to put himself back into the inner circle of Donald Trump.
That's why he took care of this on his own.
There had to be a motivation.
Michael Cohen is always working for things that benefit himself.
And that's what he was doing here.
That's completely different to what he said that he told the grand jury.
That's completely different to what he's testifying to in New York.
Nobody has heard this side of the equation.
Right.
Through further cross-examination, Cohen Well, I am so proud of him.
Now, why do I say that?
Because way back in 1970 or 71, he was my student assistant.
I was my first year in the U.S.
Attorney's Office.
He was in his first or second year at Fordham Law School.
And the U.S.
Attorney's Office had an intern program for law students.
And Robert Costello was assigned to me, and he helped me try cases as I was learning.
And then since then, we've remained close friends and done cases together.
He was then in the U.S.
Attorney's Office, again, as an executive, either deputy chief or chief of the criminal division.
He's representing Leona Helmsley, he's representing George Steinbrenner.
This is a big-time lawyer, and an extraordinarily honorable lawyer.
And his theory is, I mean, it's much more rational and reasonable than any other theory, and it makes sense to me from what I knew was going on.
Cohen, and I guess I can add to it something that Bob wouldn't know because I was on the inside of the Trump organization, right?
I don't know how to say this the right way without offending the president.
I don't think that Donald Trump would have been able to hire him even if he wanted to hire him.
Because I think he would have gotten a massive revolution, not just from the staff, but from his family.
Meaning Donald Jr.
and Eric and Melania.
Well, maybe not Melania, because he really tried to ingratiate himself to Melania.
Don't think it worked, but I can say that I actually talked to her about it.
The others, I mean, Donald Jr.
was... Remember when Donald Jr.
was presented with the possibility that... Was it Nikki Haley would be on the ticket?
And he said, I would put my body in front of her and die before she became... This is the way he felt about him.
about him. And it wasn't because anybody had any knowledge of him committing any crime or anything,
He's just a slimy kind of guy.
You watch him testify, he talks like he's in Guys and Dolls.
One of the problems why they took him off the campaign was he was making a bad impression.
He never had anything to do with the 16 campaign.
Bannon would go nuts.
I mean, I think he appeared once when Bannon was the campaign manager.
I can't tell you what Bannon told me to do to him.
And the same thing with Manafort, and the same thing, you know, before that.
So, he had to get in.
What better way to get in than to put out the money, take care of it, because Trump, you know, and then present Trump after Trump gets elected with a fair complaint, and then you can get your job.
He also had delusions of grandeur.
You know, Attorney General.
Yeah, right.
I don't think he ever tried a case.
Or Chief of Staff.
You gotta really be able to speak.
And he was bitter when he didn't get it.
And that's when he started to turn.
He says he only tape recorded Trump once, but once is enough for a lawyer to do it.
That's, I mean, that is, that is so beyond the pale of a decent lawyer to secretly tape your client.
I don't think I've ever heard of that before, but he did it.
And that's before he, he, he, he turned hoping maybe to get something so he could extort a job out of Trump.
He was desperate for a job to validate himself because he was always looked at as a gopher.
He'd call himself a fixer.
Everyone else thought of him as a gopher.
Well, he's a lot worse than a gopher.
He's a major perjurer.
Well, I don't think, not in the courtroom and I really wish I had a chance to
talk to Andrew before I came on.
So maybe I'll give you my more definitive opinion on this either 8 o'clock tonight, if I get a chance, or tomorrow on this show.
Because his demeanor here becomes really important.
The point that I'm trying to make is I wonder how he affected the jury.
Because this jury is very, very anti-Trump.
It is set up to convict him.
But a guy like Cohen is so obnoxious, he could blow it.
He could blow it.
I don't see how you don't end up at least with a hung jury.
They don't have a crime.
And then they've got a judge who is a Trump Hater.
Do you know he has two more Trump cases after this?
He's conflicted up the... He's got the Bannon case after this.
He wants to be the executioner of the Trump family.
And then his daughter can make, you know, she's making a bundle on this one.
And with all of the, you know, shifty shiv and all the other crooks around.
They're using her and using her firm.
And now if she can do Bannon, wow.
And this trial is a monstrosity.
It's an insult to American law.
So let's see what happens when this gets up To the Court of Appeals, and he's on three of these cases.
Now, I don't know if there isn't a chance, God forbid if he gets convicted, to get the Court of Appeals to take it.
Bypass the appellate division and go right to the Court of Appeals.
See if he can get it reversed before the election.
If anybody has any sense of fairness, I don't know.
Because if you're going to get any kind of fairness at all, that would be where you would get it.
It's also very interesting.
We noted it last night, but today there was a good article in the Post that, remember we talked about how this become like a VP tryout session, kind of like spring training.
And then the other day he had them all in the same outfits.
They all had on, they weren't like Navy blue suits, a little lighter blue suits.
They all had red ties on.
Our favorite, Teddy and I, our favorite, Vivek had the wrong tie-on.
I felt like calling him and saying, damn it, get your right tie-on there.
He had like a burgundy tie-on.
The others, like Burgum and Donalds, they all had the exact right tie-on.
They had the Trump red.
But it's really funny when they stood there, they all had the same suits on.
And I wonder if that's like the, what would you call them, vice presidential aspirant uniform.
Oh, from the other day.
Yeah.
Where are those?
Now, by the way, they have bookmakers rankings on this.
And do you know who's number one?
Who?
You tell me.
You're a political genius.
Vice-presidential.
Who's leading with the bookmakers?
Yeah, you can bet on this in Las Vegas, I guess.
The odds makers probably, look, they're right, but a lot of times they're just a little bit off, right?
They don't have any inside information.
Yeah, it depends.
Okay, let's go with your top Let's say mayor.
I'll tell you who it is.
It's easy.
Okay.
Because it's very, it's very, it's Bergham is the leading easily because he was there.
And that, I think that may have come down.
That came off his being with him at the rally.
Yeah.
And Trump saying something kind of cute about how he's going to be with us.
Yeah.
Uh, and then I think when, um, when the crew showed up in the, in the vice presidential, aspirant uniform, I think that brought it down a little.
What are your top three?
Oh, you're saying the odds makers.
I'm going to say my top three, but everyone's going to want to hear yours.
I haven't seen the bookmakers.
I'm saying Ben Carson, No, let's hear your top three and we can take some time here.
I want some time to think about it.
Yeah, same.
So we'll revisit that later in the show.
You and I have to separate what we want from what we think is going to happen.
You know, we have been very, very big Carson fans.
Yeah.
And because of the seriousness of the man and the utter, massive integrity of the man.
And don't we need that right now?
Right now, we need a non-politician who is just straight.
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Now, we've got two wars going on, and I think one of the reasons why Biden's going to get thrown out of office is He was handed over a peaceful world.
In fact, he had a Middle East that was headed in the right direction with the Abraham Accords.
How he got us where we are is his fault.
And it starts with being a consummate weakling that just invites dictators wanting to take advantage of him.
And now he's blackmailing Israel.
He's basically saying, uh, I'm not going to give you arms.
I'm not going to give you information unless you promise not to attack Rafa.
Well, sitting in Rafa are thousands and thousands of members of Hamas who, if they're allowed to live, They're gonna come back and fight another day.
Fight, terrorize another day.
And also, Blinken put out, I didn't see this, I see it here in the post, but Blinken put out a statement, Ted, touting a new report claiming that Israel's use of U.S.
provided weapons in Gaza likely violated international law.
Wow.
International law is made up by a left-wing wacko Marxist.
So there is no international law.
It's total fiction.
And for those of us who believe in Our nation as an individual sovereign, it's nothing.
It means nothing and it should mean nothing.
Laws are made by our country.
Somebody outside our country is not going to tell us what to do unless you're a weakling one-worlder like the Biden people.
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So we have two wars going on, as you know.
The one in Israel, let's just be frank about it, Biden wants Hamas to win.
So if you look at the reduced numbers, And we posit that Hamas has about 35,000 to 40,000 active warriors and probably a lot more they can rely on, but let's say 40,000.
Even the exaggerated number that was put out, which looks like it was double reality, was 15,000.
They killed 1,000 in the last couple of days, but let's say 15,000.
You've got Not even half of the Hamas terrorists were eliminated.
So they're going to have quite an army left when all of this is going to be for naught if their leader, Anwar, is alive, their multi-billionaires that are sitting in Dubai and other places being protected by Biden and his friends in Iran.
So instead of having 40,000, they'll have 25,000 and go out and recruit another 10.
Doesn't take a lot to do what we illustrated to you happened to that beautiful young lady, Nissim Luke, who was taken by them on the 7th and murdered.
This is Nissim right here.
With her dad.
With her dad.
And then you see her later.
Her body in the car.
Dead.
With these animals laughing.
This is who the American college students are supporting.
And this is who Biden is supporting.
He wants to keep them alive as an organization.
Makes no sense.
And then in Ukraine, he's given away money, another $60 billion.
He refused to have an inspector general on the money.
When you go and ask somebody for money, don't you have to have a plan?
You just don't walk in and say, give me $60 billion.
What's the plan?
What is he going to accomplish with it?
Russia's kicking the hell out of them right now.
Russia is making another attempt for Kharkiv.
And I could be really angry if they stretch this out.
I mean, look, they've gotten themselves right on the border of Kharkiv.
And Kharkiv symbolically means a great deal because it's a former Russian-oriented city back in 14 that turned And you don't want them taken over by the Russians.
And then they just expand their bridge to Crimea.
And they take a second largest city in Ukraine.
This is an important battle.
And Karkev has bravely fought them off.
And Karkev defeated them in 14.
These are extraordinary people.
I know them.
I know them probably better than even the people in Kiev, because I worked and my firm worked on several projects for them, including an emergency management center.
But Russia is doubling up their advance.
Putin is in China right now.
And here, I mean, you don't have to be a genius to figure out that they're assuming, I think, now that Trump's going to win.
And they want to have as much land under their control when they go in for the negotiation.
The more you have, the more you're going to get to keep, is the general theory, right?
You know, as things move toward a ceasefire, both armies try to grab as much as they can get.
And right now, they've added a substantial amount in just the last three or four weeks.
But the critical one would be Kharkiv, the second largest city.
The Russian advances, I mean, have been significant.
And he just added another 40,000 soldiers and 500 tanks.
It's quite serious what he's doing.
So I don't know what Let's go.
We got our first call.
We're going to go to Roger.
Now, Roger's from Staten Island, but he let me know he's calling us from Florida.
Oh, okay.
Roger, you're on with the mayor.
Hello, Mr. Mayor.
How are you, Roger?
First of all, an absolute honor to talk to you.
When I was raised in Staten Island, huge Rudy Giuliani fan.
I used to watch the Yankees a little bit yesterday, and I'm a huge Yankee fan.
There was somebody that was a very good friend of yours that I probably went to a lot of Yankee games with, and that was my uncle, Guy Molinari.
Oh, Guy Molinari was your uncle?
You're a very lucky man.
You had a great uncle.
My mother's brother was Guy Molinari, and before he passed away, I got to spend some time talking to him, and he absolutely loved me.
Mutual.
Mutual.
I wouldn't be mayor without him.
Well, you know, he recruited me.
You know, you know, I was just sitting there fat and happy in the U.S.
Attorney's office and he was on NBC and he was asked, you know, are you guys going to have a candidate to run against Koch?
The last guy got 8%.
And he said, I got a candidate for you, Rudy Giuliani.
You never told me.
The next day I got a thousand calls in my office and the Justice Department wants to investigate me for being involved in political activity.
So I called up Guy and I said, Guy, I'll make a deal with you.
I'm resigning on the 31st of January.
You'll be the first person I come and see.
And on February 1st, I went to see him and he and Jim Molinaro.
And that's how my campaign began.
Wow.
And look, my uncle picked the greatest mayor in New York history.
Well, you are very, very, you're very, very nice.
And I wish I had your uncle around now.
Nobody was a tougher fighter for the truth and for justice.
And what an honorable man.
Oh my goodness.
And what a good borough president.
I mean, borough presidents in our city very often are just ceremonial.
He used to fight, he used to drive us crazy.
I mean, everybody on my staff loved him, but they also, he used to call them every day for this thing for Staten Island, that thing for Staten Island, this thing.
I mean, look, he got the fair removed.
He got the dump done away with.
I mean, he's got massive achievements.
You know, I probably would have done some of it, not all of it, because he would drive me crazy until I got it done!
Well, that was my uncle, but he spoke so highly of you, and said he hadn't talked to you in a little bit, and he had called into your secretary, I think, and he was looking to get a hold of you, so... Yeah, he absolutely loved you.
Well, it's very, very...
Mutual, and thank you very much for calling, and I hope the whole family's doing well.
I mean, you're a great... We're doing well, sir.
We're doing well.
We would love to see you down at Club 47 in Palm Beach.
That's funny that you... Well, I just talked to Mr. Snowden yesterday.
Thank you, Roger, for the call.
Please call in again real soon, and... Let's see if we can get his number so we can keep him apprised of some of the live events we're going to Yeah, well, we certainly have his number right here.
Let's take our next call.
We've got Mark.
Mark, you're on with the mayor.
Are you in upstate New York?
Is that what you told me?
Yes, I am.
I'm up in Monticello.
I'm from Staten Island, but I'm up in Monticello.
I have a question for Ernie.
I need to know, when Reagan gave amnesty in the 1980s, The 3 million illegals, was it by executive order, or did it go through Congress?
Because I think I know what the sum of surprise is going to be.
Reagan executive order, amnesty?
For what?
Can you repeat that question from the start?
I didn't quite get it clearly.
In the 1980s, Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million illegals.
But did he do it by executive action by himself?
Or did he have to go to Congress?
He gave amnesty to three million... That's what he's asking.
But who?
Ronald Reagan.
But who were the people he gave amnesty to?
Illegal immigrants.
It was in 1986 or 87.
It was in 1986 or 87.
That was part of a bill.
That was part of the immigration bill of 86, 87.
And it was a negotiation in order to get more security at the border.
And I will tell you, Ronald Reagan, a few years later, said it was the worst mistake he made.
Right, but goodbye to the campaign.
And it was, I mean, Ronald Reagan was a decent man and Ronald Reagan was a trusting man.
And the deal was, You give them amnesty, and then we'll agree to much more secure conditions at the border.
So the Republicans went first and gave them amnesty, and then the Democrats double-crossed them.
And Ronald Reagan actually has that in his memoirs.
Probably he wrote that around 1991, 92, after he was out of office.
But he'll tell you, in an interview, he was asked, what do you regret the most?
I think that was it.
He said, I regret trusting them.
You know, uh, it was, I should have gotten, I should have gotten the security provisions first.
It's like, you know, there are a bunch of criminals.
You represent a criminal as a lawyer, as a lawyer, you get your money up front or you never get your money.
Well, this is, this is true with Schumer and all of these people.
If you don't, and this has been one of the reasons why they haven't been able to pass a new bill.
Republicans are saying quite rightly, including Lindsey Graham, We're not doing a damn thing until you give us what we need to secure the border.
Now, Trump proved you don't need anything from them.
We're pretty much near the end, but let me just give you a number because this number you can't argue with.
The last year that Trump was in office, a little over 400,000 people were detected as illegal
aliens. Last year it was 3.5 million that were detected.
Now, that's a different order of magnitude.
The second one is a danger to our sovereignty.
And the second one means that there's so many coming in, you don't know who they are or what they're doing.
So any comparisons to the immigrants, legal or illegal in the past and now, is a very, very inaccurate comparison.
And for the safety of this country, you have to assume that these people are largely criminals because they're being they're being vetted by the Mexican cartels.
Who the hell are they going to let into our country?
So and they're acting like it.
So maybe this can be part of your final.
That's a very, very interesting thing and a very interesting part of history.
And very important that you know that President Reagan, who was a totally honest man, if he did something wrong, he would tell you.
And he said, boy, did I make a mistake on that one?
He may have said I was too naive in trusting them.
I mean, the Democrats have been scoundrels for a long time.
But with Clinton, they went to a different level of immorality.
And with Obama and Biden, I mean, they're off the charts.
I mean, I'll conclude with one last thing to remember about both of them.
They gave hundreds of millions of dollars, both of them, to the Ayatollah, who spends half his money killing innocent people.
So, I mean, they, in part, funded the attack in Israel.
When Obama gave him the hundreds of millions in cash, that was sponsoring killing Americans, because that's what Soleimani did.
And when Trump took Soleimani out, Biden objected.
So what side is he on?
And all this stuff about protecting Israel, what a bunch of bull.
So keep remembering this.
It's really, really important.
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